Author Topic: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: GAME OVER, ROLES WIN!  (Read 97881 times)

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #180 on: June 03, 2011, 05:53:35 AM »
Okay, different words now!

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #181 on: June 03, 2011, 06:00:16 AM »
Uh, crap. I need to not hit "Post" instead of "Preview".
Anyway.

ActionDan: Can you tell me what I'm misrepping you on?

Bledibleh: Thoughts on anyone that isn't Lambda?

Tired right now, will be be around but I can't really think of anything else to say.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #182 on: June 03, 2011, 06:04:41 AM »
capt.h : Pfft. Did Kiro tell you you're derptown? Do you still think Omba is the scummiest so far? We have consulted and there doesn't seem to be anything from Omba jumping at us as suspicious yet. I can follow his thought process for why he's voting Edible and I'd disagree he's missing opinions at this point. His earlier null everythings annoyed me but not everyone can see EVERYONE IS SCUM. Perhaps you should re-think your own tunneling if you both think Omba's case looks strange, yet agree that Edible looks suspicious. My read of you is rather unclear and I don't like being an Uncertain Kitten.

Omba: I noticed while reading, I should clarify I was talking about LLD being a mislynch in the post you quoted, not Dormio. If claiming miller causes this much commotion that easily I might do it myself next game!

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #183 on: June 03, 2011, 11:09:49 AM »
So, just to clarify, it's been a little over two days and the only thing we can all agree on is that capt.h is stupidly hard to understand?  We are all pros. I hope by the time I can sit up under my own power easily we can look at a little more then that. Too many bbl's not enough rage.

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« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 11:18:55 AM by Pesco »


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TWO!
« Reply #184 on: June 03, 2011, 12:28:02 PM »
Only if you're selling nighttalk

I think Dormio was the first to raise stuff on how he found Dan to be 'likely scum' and yet still proceeded to vote Omha, and in such a concise manner.  Felt the best to my eyes.
Affinity, can you go back and find where you saw this happen? My parrot doesn't think Dormio was the first to say anything about Dan, or that Dormio actually called Dan likely scum in any of his earliest posts.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TWO!
« Reply #185 on: June 03, 2011, 01:05:22 PM »
Omba is town.

K4U, I can't follow your reads at all. When you say someone is unambiguously town, you need to back it up, or else no one will understand your reads - why do you think Omba is town. And I don't know the reasons behind your conclusion that Schezo is scummy.

@ Serp - I've posted quite a few reads. I find Omba's play scummy (and I am waiting to hear why his read of Dan went from scum to town). I think Dormio's early play against Lambda is derp but his current vote is suspicious since he agrees with my points on Omba (and, like PX said, quoted me out of context for his case). LLD still needs to post reads; her play so far ended with her attack on Dormio, and she hasn't talked about anyone else, and I'm finding it suspicious.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TWO!
« Reply #186 on: June 03, 2011, 01:15:05 PM »
(and, like PX said, quoted me out of context for his case).
Uh, I'd like to ask you and PX where I did this.
Because if you're talking about me quoting you in #129, I fail to see how that was out of context.
And I, uh, don't see me quoting you anywhere else except #179, but I don't think I've quoting anything out of context.

but his current vote is suspicious since he agrees with my points on Omba
Ohnoez. People are capable of thinking along the same lines as me. That must make me voting for them all suspicious-like!

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #187 on: June 03, 2011, 01:19:24 PM »
And I like how you continue to call Omba scummy, but don't do anything about it other than leave your vote there.
Like, seriously, you're being all like "I'm going to get this lynch and you can't stop me".
I don't think that that's the best townie behaviour.



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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #188 on: June 03, 2011, 01:22:41 PM »
@Shadoweh: That quote was about Dormio raising things about capt.h's actions regarding Dan, not Dormio himself.

And capt.h, while you have answered most points in passing (unsatisfactorily), I can't stand all the backtracking and all the sudden giving of questioning and stuff only after being prodded multiple times in the game.  I also don't see you taking in new things into your Omba case (or even trying to understand why Omba voted Edible)  Things like the below quote:. 

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Omba's case on Edible is strange, and Edible's case itself doesn't look particularly town to me. Edible needs to explain why a scum slip is scum while falling into a trap is town, or expand on his reasons for voting Action Dan.

also feel as if you're really trying to keep your vote Omba, agreeing with his Edible case and parroting Omba, and yet still calling her case strange.  The only thing I find good about you is the little blurb on Schezo, but other than that, I cannot understand how your conclusions on who is scum and why come from the points you use.  Since I'll be gone for a day and slightly more, I'll do this.

##Unvote
##Vote: capt.h

Even the K4U thing is really weird.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TWO!
« Reply #189 on: June 03, 2011, 01:25:48 PM »
I can only get a very short post in right now.

Omba's reads on Shadoweh, you (K4U) and LLD are still null, to my knowledge.
On LLD: Already stated here. (She's townie)
On K4U: Town.
Shadoweh: I was getting weird vibes from her at first, but she's now looking somewhat townie to me.

Also, what exactly about my Edible case do you find strange? -Exactly-, that is.

Omba, you suddenly cleared Dan as town using Meta reads. What about his new posts? What do you find town about them?
He's started actually building a case on someone and the way he's going about it reads pretty much exactly like I'm used to from him when he's town. I'd like to hear more from him, but for now, that's enough for me to clear him, given that my reason for voting him was his full-on focus on speculation. As I wrote, I had forgotten that this kind of speculation is just something he likes to do. If you're still wondering, go read MHM in the archives.

Omba: I noticed while reading, I should clarify I was talking about LLD being a mislynch in the post you quoted, not Dormio.
Ok then.

btw: Is there a way to read someone's posts from one thread in iso?

Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #190 on: June 03, 2011, 01:33:55 PM »
Okay I admit, I knew I had a lot to answer to, but
Quote from: Shadoweh
Wrongness
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I admited to the :effort: point, but I was making this post, literally, half an hour before I fell unconscious last night. There's not a whole lot of effort I had left to make that post with.

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Let's get some of them words about other people before they fall out of that cuddly skull of yours. Passively described your feelings? So he's posted a few times since then, what do you think of him now? Also, can you explain this to me, Zak?
I ment the words I was reading were falling out of my skull, and that's what I said. I don't know what you think you're getting by twisting my wording around, but it sounds like you're trying to put a scumspin on everything I said. If I was scum, my words wouldn't need that added edge to them, so why are you doing this?

Also, yes, the way Dormio and LLD handled the situation, they both look like overeager townies that realized they were being more overeager than townie in their attacks. The read may be subject to change, but it's as solid as I can get on day one.

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Are you seriously saying you're clearing LLD because she's not attacking you?
Yes I am. I initially read her "As bad as dormio" as her accusing me of being scum while at the same time talking about how what I did was something town would do. When LLD cleared up that she wasn't making a direct scum accusation, what I made out her motive to be changed from"Defencive Scum" to "Town setting up a trap". I don't personally believe in setting up traps since Town is more likely to take the bait than scum, but I can see town intent in what she was trying.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #191 on: June 03, 2011, 03:28:52 PM »
@capth
It'd be nice if you actually answered my questions at some point.  And no, I do not care if you or anyone else can't follow my town reads at this point in the game.  All you need to know is that I think they are town.

As for Schezo
-He sees a spat he does not think is town vs town
-He jumps on a third person instead
-His reason for doing so is not satisfactory
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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #192 on: June 03, 2011, 03:43:46 PM »
I ment the words I was reading were falling out of my skull, and that's what I said. I don't know what you think you're getting by twisting my wording around, but it sounds like you're trying to put a scumspin on everything I said. If I was scum, my words wouldn't need that added edge to them, so why are you doing this?
Maybe my intention is not clear. Right now all I have from you is "I think LLD and Dormio are town and SHADOWEH IS SCUM!" I'm pretty sure I'm not Sealed Evil In a Can, so I'd appreciate if you told me if you think anyone who might actually be scum is acting scummy to you. I admittedly like your response so far and might chase after someone new for us to bandwagon together all honeymoon-like if you answer.

Okay, if no one else is going to ask him anything besides Dormio I'm going to stop pretending PX's post doesn't exist. PX, can you clarify:
- Why the miller claim seems reasonable to you, especially in the way LLD used it as a trap?
- Do you agree with the case on capt.h and do you think he is town or scum?
- If Dormio misrepresented capt.h in the posts that he selectively quoted and what the misrepresentation was in your opinion?
- What about Dan's vote absolved him of pushing a mod lynch?
- What about Affinity's clear logical points are towny? Do you agree with any of them? I'm ignoring that you brought up his mis-spelling because that's just silly.
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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #193 on: June 03, 2011, 04:11:52 PM »
The Eighth "Vento Aureo" Vote Count

Mod Note: I made your post better, Shadoweh =D!

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (1): Capt. h
Zakeri (1): Shadoweh
ActionDan (1): Edible
PX (0)
capt.h (5): Serpentarius, Kitten4U, Schezo, Dormio, Affinity
Schezo (0)
Serpentarius (0)
Kitten4U (0)
Shadoweh (2): ActionDan, Zakeri
Dormio (2): LLD, PX
Affinity (0)
Edible (1): Omba

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capt.h. is at L-2
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch
Game Day Three Ends at 1:00 AM, EDT, Friday


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #194 on: June 03, 2011, 04:49:10 PM »
Bledibleh: Thoughts on anyone that isn't Lambda?

I've given opinions on Dan (though I'm apparently the only person who thought anything of his "mislynch" comment on you) Shadoweh, capt.h, and Zak, as well as Lambda.  Guess I'm just talking to myself. :|

My case on Lambda is as good as shelved until she actually starts posting again, though I wonder if the absence was intentional in order to draw attention away from her.

I'll be away for most of the rest of the day myself, but I will make time to reread capt.h and the case on him.  I disliked it as of yesterday, and I haven't seen much today to persuade me otherwise, but maybe something will turn up.  Another reread of Shadoweh/Zak is in order, as well, given Zak's recent comments.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #195 on: June 03, 2011, 04:58:04 PM »
Alright, I'm on lunch so I make this quick.

Time is running out until the end of this game day and I'm the vote leader, so you'll probably want some time to digest my claim. I am Funny Valentine, Town Governor. I have two passive abilities; the first one is Stand: I own a stand called Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. I'm pretty sure it's just flavor but it's listed as a passive ability. I also have the passive ability Points: I get 10 points for every game day that passes. My active ability, at the cost of 30 points, is called Presidential Pardon. I can target a player and prevent said player from being lynched for the following 3 game days.

I no longer think Omba is the most likely scum. Omba's post on Edible does show scum hunting, and to say she was my top scum pick after Schezo's play would be insincere so ##Unvote.

Schezo, your attack on me is because you think I backtracked and misrepresented Omba. But that's a misrep of me - I have not backtracked, and my reasons were consistent from the beginning. You also say that Omba is solid for saying this:

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Well. Currently it's saying you're more concerned with speculating about the setup than hunting scum; while there's insufficient information for the speculation to bear any useful fruits.

But you wait over 20 hours after Omba made that post to unvote him and find a new case.

##Vote: Schezo

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #196 on: June 03, 2011, 05:03:13 PM »
Sealed Evil in a Can is what Popeye actually gulps down.  I hear it builds muscles.

Well.. Zakeri x Shadoweh forever (at least deserves a fanfic)!  As for what I think of Zakeri's posts and vote:  To my knowledge he thinks Shadoweh is scum spinning spiderwebs saturated in stickiness with spider Shadoweh salivating and supping on struggling slugs. (Yeah I said it) Which is basically him just saying Shadoweh's posts are scummy.  Lovely, but not that concrete for my tastes, a.k.a, there is no backup as of yet to the vote. 

So... Zakeri, what exactly makes Shadoweh scum to you?  Also considering I have the only case on Shadoweh on the moment, do your reasons for Scum Shadoweh coincide, differ, ignore anything that I've posted?  I just want your complete thought process.  I don't see any problems so far with Shadoweh's vote either (and for the love of god, OMGUS should not exist in a Mafia dictionary), as scum or town, as either would be a little shocked that a vote came their way without much backing other than (you are scummy).

cut-cut Oh you are both here! that's good! I'll be back in a bit.

There are at least three people who seem freakishly confused.  Dormio, Edible, and Capt. h.  I am more than not just RAGING at Dormio and Edible, for literally failing to read.  Capt. h's misrep deserves its own spotlight, and get its due in a post 45 min - 1 hour from now.

So I'm take care of these funny birds before I get to Capt.h. (I have to be somewhere at 1pm, but right after I get back he will get flak)

So Dormio, I'll showcase the misrep:
Quote from: Durrmio
I also have to wonder with your "Shadoweh, Omba, and capt. h are scum, and we should turkey shoot Dormio because" what your priorities are.

Please read the following... again:
Quote from: Dan
As for our other townies:  I think Omba is more than not town.  This is result from clear and town like opinions and stances.  LLD/Dormio.  Gut says that this is a turkey shoot for scum (and I am examining those who attack one or the other).  I don't think it's in town's best interest to lynch one of these.  If I had to choose however, I'd choose Dorimo as the scum.  Why? because while a townie can look at a miller claim and go, "that's odd," who would actually say "HEY WHAT's UP WITH THAT?" and vote immediately?  (Unless you all are going to just tell me, "THAT'S OUR DURRRMIO!"  BV)

My other immediate interest is capt.h (as a likely scum).  I am going to reread him though to flesh out a better case.
A turkey shoot = shooting fish in a barrel = Dormio and LLD seem like a town/town fight that Scum could easily capitalize on.  No I don't wish to shoot you Dormio and I directly stated that town shouldn't lynch either of you.  Also "more than not" can be read as "likely town".

My lynching priorities are as follows.  Shadoweh ---> Capt.h ----> maybe blehdibleh cause his misrep is just... unexpected him a person of his calibar. (oh, and for shadoweh only, PX is someone who I look at and don't like, but it's hard because I can barely see him)

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"mislynch"
First... I thought Shadoweh refered to both LLD/Dormio as mislynches, so my mind borrowed her language (I guess that wasn't the case).
Second.. considering I think Dormio is not a good lynch and at the moment feels like derptown to me (although I need to do another reread of him), it's reasonable to assume that Dormio is in fact, a mislynch. There you go.  So, is this satisfactory or is there something you would like to add that makes more sense.

Don't lynch me.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #197 on: June 03, 2011, 06:01:20 PM »
Since I'm just so orz with words and explaining things let me try again:
Kitten and whoever else:
The reason I picked a 3rd person instead of LLD/Dormio was because personal gut feeling about how the two reacted to each other made me think there was something scummy happening between them.  Not choosing that early on seems to have been a folly for me since I was thinking somewhere around this when I made the decision.
Lady LD vs Dormio was only a 1 on 1 case versus each other at the time I said that and neither of them had given and opinions about others.  As such it would be very easy for scum to win the battle of who looked better against the other if it was just 1 on 1 and I didn't want to have to choose between the two until they at least said some other things about other people.
Which seems to have worked out more than I thought it would, since LLD has yet to respond, leaving her silence speaking volumes about what I think about her.  I can't really update an opinion on someone who hasn't appeared but I find her absence at what would be a more crucial time of judgment and decision making on which one I would choose between the two very unsettling.
My opinion of Dormio is now that he blatantly bandwagoned after the LLD thing wasn't go anywhere I still have disdain for him.  He provides blurbs and comments here or there but they feel pretty null compared to what he's already pulled.
Which leaves me where, exactly?  I can't say for sure until LLD responds, which needs to be soon, least she actually pull the infamous lurkscum card so as to draw attention away from her.
Why I think this has scum involvement: It's mostly gut on how I interpret their reactions and actions to each other with stuff like LLD's flaming attack with a trap and an undesirable response just feels like too much of a push against each other to really be town town in my opinion. 

capt h: You keep missing something that happened in between my opening post and your bad case. Omba responding.  It's like you're factoring that out of the equation entirely since I misinterpreted what Omba was trying to do and he clearly explained it with his response.  Hence the clearing stuff up.  You seem to be leaving that out when you make your case on him about not having an opinion since that entire post is a solid opinion.  Since I didn't appear before you made your case on Omba and Omba's clarification post, saying that I agreed with you is simply not true.
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He became suspicious when he started posting. I disagree with him that Omba gave a solid opinion, since both Schezo and I agreed in our posts that most of Omba's opinions were null, and Schezo originally voted Omba for his vote on Dan
You keep quoting that I agree Omba's opinions were null.  Where do I do this?
oh good, you appear...
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So I suppose everyone else that's voting you for backtracking and misreping is wrong and scum too huh?  I mean seriously, you're charging me for saying that your faulty reasons for voting Omba were faulty and as such hold no ground especially when you just throw in I share where you misrep Omba as a charge against me.  I also find myself getting a little irritated at how you're last comment about me not being able to post immediately.
As for what I think of your claim: That sounds ludicrous.  If each day lasted 72 hours, you could essentially lynch only the people you wanted to if we liked it or not had you not told us.

E anyways I'm tired now and I'll get the rest of my opinions out momentarily.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #198 on: June 03, 2011, 06:23:30 PM »
Time is running out until the end of this game day and I'm the vote leader, so you'll probably want some time to digest my claim. I am Funny Valentine, Town Governor. I have two passive abilities; the first one is Stand: I own a stand called Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. I'm pretty sure it's just flavor but it's listed as a passive ability. I also have the passive ability Points: I get 10 points for every game day that passes. My active ability, at the cost of 30 points, is called Presidential Pardon. I can target a player and prevent said player from being lynched for the following 3 game days.
Is this claim provable without us trying to lynch the player you selected?
And, again: What did you find strange about my case on Edible?

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #199 on: June 03, 2011, 07:47:29 PM »
Kittens make everything better, especially with TVTropes. :3

My active ability, at the cost of 30 points, is called Presidential Pardon. I can target a player and prevent said player from being lynched for the following 3 game days.
Huh. Can you use it on yourself? I'm pretty sure those things that you just switched votes for happened over 20 hours ago too, you know.

Schezo: So.. your opinion of LLD and Dormio is... they both look scummy? No really, I don't know how else to read you accusing LLD of being lurkscum and Dormio of blatant bandwagoning after 'the LLD thing'. You still haven't chosen one, you're keeping them both open as scummy options. Also this statement:
Why I think this has scum involvement: It's mostly gut on how I interpret their reactions and actions to each other with stuff like LLD's flaming attack with a trap and an undesirable response just feels like too much of a push against each other to really be town town in my opinion. 
See: Every Day One Ever. Two people fighting one on one with conviction does not make one of them scum. This always happens. Every game. This is bad and you should feel bad for saying it. You have earned possible voting status!

Dan: What's your case again? Besides calling me a black widow. :ohdear: That gives me an idea for a Zakky-chan story, maybe later. In that particular post I was specifically talking about Lambda as a mislynch. You are correct that my tone implied I thought lynching Dormio for those reasons would also have been a mislynch.

For people calling me lazy: That's probably true. It's not smart to drink and drive. I'm not sitting back for your benefit, I'm asking Dorian what he'd like to do first. Incidentally he thinks capt.h is hypocritical and a scumpick and that we should kill LLD with fire for her antics. Since I'm null on capt.h I'm not opposed to his lynch, but I see LLD as overly frustrated townie. Sure would be nice if she came back and said something. >.>


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #200 on: June 03, 2011, 07:59:51 PM »
kangklnadfaf ndakflindfngkgak nf djixndklfdn!

So I spent the last four hours chasing my tail and running in circles.  Kitten4u is now forbidden from rereading the game for the rest of the day (reread count: 18).  Anyway, I am no longer bothered by Shadoweh and Zak.  Though they are still jerks for making me feel weird. >:<  Anyway, all my screeeeeeming did get me one thing.

##Unvote
##Vote Schezo


I have no friggin clue how long I waffled on capth's claim, but sigh.  I think it is likely a town claim.  The power itself is confirmable, so I don't think he is lying about his role.  That ability in the hands of scum in LYLO would be absolutely horrendous, so the ability itself suggests town to me.  I also took a look at the most recent vote count and the fact that there are no other real wagons is worrying. :/  Argh.  There is so much badness there that I want him to be scum, but there's a lot pointing to him being town now.

As for Schezo, I still really dislike his interactions with the Dormio and Lambda thing.  His recent post is not making me feel any better about any of it.
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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #201 on: June 03, 2011, 08:19:53 PM »
The Pesco Wants to do Something for Once Vote Count

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0):
Zakeri (1): Shadoweh
ActionDan (1): Edible
PX (0)
capt.h (4): Serpentarius, Schezo, Dormio, Affinity
Schezo (2) capt. H, Kitten4u
Serpentarius (0)
Kitten4U (0)
Shadoweh (2): ActionDan, Zakeri
Dormio (2): LLD, PX
Affinity (0)
Edible (1): Omba

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capt.h. is at L-3
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch
Game Day Three Ends at 1:00 AM, EDT, Friday

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #202 on: June 03, 2011, 08:31:31 PM »
Kitten4all: I'm sorryyy :ohdear: I'm also inclined to say the claim is believable, if only because we could easily get around the power by ending the days early and denying capt.h his points. I wouldn't clear him for it, but it's definitely provable.

I can barely stay awake and I don't think Zak is going anywhere, so I still want your opinions young man but I'll come back to you later. I'ma put my vote down somewhere useful in case I'm not back in time. I think we'd be well served to hammer whoever at least an hour before the deadline since we get twilight until the day ends and we can discuss after-hammar reads. No last minute voting! Don't be a Helepolis. >:(

##Vote: Schezo

omg third on the wagon I am soooo obvscum today! What else on the do not do checklist can I hit today..


Kitten4u: "I'll say it plainly: THERE IS NO WAY SHADOWEH IS SCUM!" - A Balanced Game of Mafia

Schezo

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #203 on: June 03, 2011, 08:36:52 PM »
Hmm.
##Vote: Lady Lambadadelta

Until she can come back with something reasonable, I see no reason why she should be able to lurk out her actions without responding to them.
And I thank you for deciding that I don't think this is more than a standard day 1.

Do not misinterpret, I still want capt h gone

Kitten4u

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #204 on: June 03, 2011, 08:43:43 PM »
Quote from: Schezo
Do not misinterpret, I still want capt h gone
Why?

I realize how silly this sounds.  Please answer it anyway.
My favorite mythical creature? The honest politician.
A life cool.. where can I download one of those?
Hurray for apathy!

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Schezo

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #205 on: June 03, 2011, 08:50:14 PM »
I have been reinforcing a case on him all day, I find him scummy and I do not believe his roleclaim.

Kitten4u

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #206 on: June 03, 2011, 09:04:21 PM »
k, so I'm not just being confused.  I knew how silly the question sounded, but dear god I thought I walked into the Twilight Zone Mafia for a second.

You are getting off of someone who, in your own words, MUST BE SCUM (because a townie wouldn't lie about their claim like that yeah?) in order to prod a lurker? :|
My favorite mythical creature? The honest politician.
A life cool.. where can I download one of those?
Hurray for apathy!

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ActionDan

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TWO!
« Reply #207 on: June 03, 2011, 09:07:30 PM »
Capt.h here is your spotlight!
Firstly, I've just re-read everything in this game.  But in the end, in addition to what I've said already, I only wish to talk about new and original opinions on Capt. h, Schezo, and Zak.

I might as well do it in that order.

So to start off:
I had a lot of trouble following Dan's case on Shadoweh, which kept me from commenting on it. I think it's based on Shadoweh claiming that each lynch gives scum a night kill after Omba suggested it, which I don't find scummy on its own, nor do I find it scummy that an early D1 vote not be well backed. I think Dan also went after Shadoweh for trying to keep Dormio from being lynched for stepping in LLD's traps while Shadoweh hinted at but didn't mention any of the other reasons Dormio was scummy. It's a thought-out case, but I didn't think it was a great case.

Actually, Dan, could you clarify your case on Shaodweh?

My case on Shadoweh is not hard to follow.  It involves a disconnect in thought processes between her initial vote post and her later posts claiming different reasons for why she voted me earlier.  This kind of thinking I don't find to be town-motivated.  Shadoweh not taking ideas from Omba 10 min after Omba posted is inconsequential to the fact that she didn't mention that "each lynch gives scum a night kill" was one of the reasons she voted for me until significantly later. 

Now, capt. h, you say that you don't find it scummy if "an early D1 vote not be well backed".  That's fair as long as the reason behind the vote was a good one (or at least one that carried town intent).  Shadoweh's reason in her vote post  was that I didn't attach a vote to my attack on K4U.  Later, after I have pointed out why I did not attach a vote (because I wanted town to speculate with me and reach an agreement on how we implement lynches), she then proclaims that my speculation itself was scummy and that that was the reason she voted me in the first place.  I have said that I see little to no evidence of this.  Hence the thought disconnect. Hence my Case.  As for Dormio x Shadoweh:  Yes, I commented on it because I thought it strange and unusual, and scummy. Since then Shadoweh has said she is watching Dormio. 

The first part is a misrep, the second is IIoA.  Hope this clarifies things for now.  Considering you thought me scum for the ED1 argument between me and K4U, you haven't asked for "clarification" between the much more significant battle between me and Shadoweh, even when you didn't understand it.  That shouldn't keep any townie from asking questions about one of their potential "scumspects".

Meanwhile, for posterity, What are your current scumspects and why?  All I am certain of is that you think Shadoweh "is playing a very town game".

SCHEZO, I have been watching you!   I looked at you strangely ever since your capt. h vote post, not because of voting capt. h, but because you had no clear opinions on whether which one of LLD/Dormio was scum, only that one of them was in fact scum.   I cannot tell whether you are scum trying to shoot fish in the barrel, or whether you are town tripping up over that fight from your stances on this fight alone.  I lean the latter because I think your original Omba vote touched on something that I myself was irate about, namely, it was frustrating that when I wanted town to discuss our options, I was condemned for it since I didn't originally place a vote down, meanwhile everybody did exactly what I wished for i.e. speculation while reaching a conclusion.   The only other person to say that was Affinity (although he was only unhappy with PX and Zak and skipped Shadoweh).

Now for Zak.  You know when you first voted me, I said "Wat" to myself, because your argument sounded copied from Shadoweh's ... and it turns out it was.  But now I realize, reading back, If you were just voting whoever Shadoweh voted, for whatever reason, one would think that you weren't actually serious.  But I think you were!  So I want to know directly from you, did you seriously consider me the scummiest at the time or were your posts an act?  Because, you know, if you weren't serious, your posts are Deliberately Misrepping me (or at least trying to).    And it's bad enough this town can't read correctly (seriously people, take an eye test and buy some glasses).

As for the Capt. h. Claim.  I don't think it serves any town purpose, like, Capt. h might as well have been a regular townie if town aligned.  And while as the cutting K4U said, it would be a powerful scum tool in LyLo, Perhaps it was never meant to get that far.  Of course this is all speculation and we should focus on who is Scum  :V

In anycase we shouldn't vote him I think... but there is no way I am treating him as confirmed town. 


Don't lynch me.

ActionDan

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #208 on: June 03, 2011, 09:10:47 PM »
Oh Shadoweh, your case has been radiated above, to fry the bacterial misreps.

Don't lynch me.

Schezo

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY THREE!
« Reply #209 on: June 03, 2011, 09:23:56 PM »
I don't know anymore. All of your comments about not liking my Dormio Lld actions implied you wanted a vote to go with my words to me but guess not.
##Vote: capt h

I wont be back for a while.