The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

[Suikama]

Get your BibleThumps ready cause this shit comes out tomorrow.

Also a reminder if you already own the original Binding of Isaac, buying Rebirth before it comes out tomorrow nets you a 33% discount and a TF2 hat.


If you don't already know what Binding of Isaac is, the tl;dr is it's the original Legend of Zelda's dungeon exploration + Rogue-like permadeath and randomness mechanics, all wrapped up with happy joyful themes like gore, child abuse, religion, and lots and lots of literal shit (don't worry it's all cartoony so nothing is actually cringe inducing).

Here's the more official description

When Isaac?s mother starts hearing the voice of God demanding a sacrifice be made to prove her faith, Isaac escapes into the basement facing droves of deranged enemies, lost brothers and sisters, his fears, and eventually his mother.

Gameplay
The Binding of Isaac is a randomly generated action RPG shooter with heavy Rogue-like elements. Following Isaac on his journey players will find bizarre treasures that change Isaac?s form giving him super human abilities and enabling him to fight off droves of mysterious creatures, discover secrets and fight his way to safety.

About the Binding Of Isaac: Rebirth
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth is the ultimate of remakes with an all-new highly efficient game engine (expect 60fps on most PCs), all-new hand-drawn pixel style artwork, highly polished visual effects, all-new soundtrack and audio by the the sexy Ridiculon duo Matthias Bossi + Jon Evans. Oh yeah, and hundreds upon hundreds of designs, redesigns and re-tuned enhancements by series creator, Edmund McMillen. Did we mention the poop?

Key Features:
Over 500 hours of gameplay
4 BILLION Seeded runs!
20 Challenge runs
450+ items, including 160 new unlockables
Integrated controller support for popular control pads!
Analog directional movement and speed
Tons of feature film quality animated endings
Over 100 specialized seeds
2-Player local co-op
Over 100 co-op characters
Dynamic lighting, visual effects and art direction
All-new game engine @60FPS 24/7
All-new soundtrack and sound design
Multiple Save slots
Poop physics!
The ultimate roguelike
A bunch of achievements

Uber secrets including:
10 Playable Characters
100+ enemies, with new designs
Over 50 bosses, including tons of new and rare bosses
Rooms FULL OF POOP!
Mystic Runes
Upgradeable shops

The main draw of the game is the fact that no two runs ever feel the same. Everything from the items you get, to the levels you traverse, to even the bosses you fight, have some random variations to them. One run might involve you finding a tonf of heath upgrades and soul hearts allowing you to slowly tank your way through everything, while another might give you items with insane attack power but very little in terms of health making you more of a glass cannon.

Also the gameplay itself actually feels very Touhou-esque as you have to dodge enemies and bloody bullets as you try to survive your way through several stages and bosses before you can face off against Mom herself. The tension of trying to survive through each level with limited resources and the looming threat of permadeath is not unlike the tension of a Touhou 1cc run.

[Mew seeker]

If you guys are curious about the game, have a look at Total Biscuit being freaken out by the original game.  :V
(Just keep in mind the game was made by the person behind Super Meat Boy and the links while on youtube might not be safe for work!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB4tk1g-7os
Alternatively, if you don't mind some spoilers, watch someone decent going through it. ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I01iyWtDTW4

[Garlyle]

I haven't touched Isaac in about a year to be fully prepared to dive headfirst into Isaac

Spoiler:

metaphorically, not literally, although god only knows that might be an actual thing

[Third Eye Lem]

Also the gameplay itself actually feels very Touhou-esque...The tension of trying to survive through each level with limited resources and the looming threat of permadeath is not unlike the tension of a Touhou 1cc run.

I liken Isaac's combat to Robotron, really. The dual-handed shooting and movement is very similar to that game, I'm surprised more people don't remember it orz... RIP Robotron!

Another thing about Isaac that makes it so awesome is the persistent unlocks. Any item you find or unlock has a chance to appear in the basement in a later run, and you can find some pretty OP stuff (

Spoiler:

Mega Fetus, anyone?

). The upgradable shops also help with this aspect; if you had a good enough run in the original Isaac you could easily end up with a ton of money that just sat around and did nothing (shops don't appear after the sixth floor and beggars/slot machines don't appear as much). Now you can just dump all your excess coinage into Reimu's the shopkeeper's donation box and unlock more items. :3c

One more thing to discuss: there is a "random" mode in this game, a character named...Eden, I think? Anyways, when you kill Mom you get "Mom Kill Points," and to play one "Random" run you need to spend points. Eden starts with random items, so you could get something really interesting, or something completely worthless. :V Either way, as someone who loves unpredictability in games like these, I look forward to using Eden.

[KaiserKnuckle]

I am just too damned hype since I've pre-purchased this thing a few weeks back sooooo

But yeah original!Isaac is just as good (

Spoiler:

even though I've yet to get to even Sheol-levels of deep into the game  :qq:

) and is something I've been constantly playing whenever I felt like nothing else in my library was needed to waste my time (except hotmiami because  :dragonforce:)

[LaserTurtle]

It comes out tomorrow? Where has all the time gone? I'm gonna have to clear out my schedules for three days straight of just marathoning runs until I get good enough to beat Mom again.

Boy, I just can't wait to cry blood at bloated fly-infested children-monsters in horrific catacombs!

[Suikama]

1 hour left! :toot:

e: 5 mins!!!

[Mew seeker]

It comes out tomorrow? Where has all the time gone? I'm gonna have to clear out my schedules for three days straight of just marathoning runs until I get good enough to beat Mom again.

Boy, I just can't wait to cry blood at bloated fly-infested children-monsters in horrific catacombs!

Actually it's still locked at the time of this post. Many people from what I see are impatient. X D
Northernlion has apparently access to it though. Perhaps they allowed him to start earlier since he's one of the main Let's Player of the game and thus contribute to the hype.

I also saw topic written in Korean and possibly Russian at Steam about the game. X D
I guess the game is to some extend popular worldwide.

[KaiserKnuckle]

>wake up in the morning

>check on boir

Code: [Select]

"DATA STILL ENCRYPTED"
>cries everywhere

[Suikama]

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give REBIRTH ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

[Garlyle]

Actually it's still locked at the time of this post. Many people from what I see are impatient. X D
Northernlion has apparently access to it though. Perhaps they allowed him to start earlier since he's one of the main Let's Player of the game and thus contribute to the hype.

YouTubers of reknown usually have early access.  Honestly, Northernlion's likely been playing for a couple days and already recording

he's still a scumbag tho

[Suikama]

IT WORKS NOW IM IN

[Mew seeker]

If it's still locked, close and restart Steam. Now I am gone. Bye! : )

[Garlyle]

Release stream yeahhhhh

[Suikama]

Fuck there was a devil room but I didn't notice until I left because the screen is so dark now :<


Dammit Mom killed and I won... but I actually had a really good build that could have taken the womb too :ohdear:

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

BOSS RUSH OF EVERY BOSS

Garlyle wtf.

[Raikaria]

I'm gonna post my satuff in this post. Spoilers on new stuff.

Game 1: Die on Caves 2 to Peep. [I'm bad at Issac]. Get a Devil Deal on Basement 1 due to a Curse Room. New items I obtained during the run included

Spoiler:

A blue mushroom, a sort of nappy-pin thing, Dark Matter, Lil'Brimstone and a Missing Page 2

Unlocked

Spoiler:

Azazel

Game 2: Try out

Spoiler:

Azazel. HP is listed as MINUS ONE. He starts out flying with 3 black hearts and a Fool card, and a sort of mini Brimstone shot. Got a Caffine Pill.

Died on Basement 2 because apparently Mullibooms are FAST now.

Game 3: Back to Issac. Died on Caves 2 to Fistula miniboss, seems to move a lot faster. Caves 1 Boss was interesting, now but ultimately a damage sponge once you figured him out.

[Suikama]

Man this game runs so much better than the original

The original would lag for no reason sometimes but no problems with Rebirth so far


oh man there are as many people playing this game as there are playing TF2 :getdown:

[MatsuriSakuragi]

reeeeeeeally tempted to get this

[Mew seeker]

I finally beat Mom. Tips for beating her? Pay to win!  :dealwithit:

Spoiler:

I got an item which make drops the 1+1 version.
I bought at the shop the piggy bank item which spawn money when you get hit. I got a portable slot machine and played it next to a blood bank.
It was ridiculous. Got lot of Pretty Fly and ressources. Then I bought an item that deals damage when you pay to activate it.
The damage is weak but money wasn't an issue.  :V
If I got hit, I just spammed the item to clear the room.
Getting the Mitre and that item that give you charged Monstro shot didn't hurt either.
I also invested money at the shop. Getting the "Investment counter" at 10 unlock an item. At 20 it level up the shop but I am not sure what that means yet.
Curiously, I have yet to meet Greed.

I unlocked Azazel easily, the Devil offered me 3 cheap deal in a single room.
I also unlocked Lazarus although I forgot the requirement. X D
He start with a pill and if he dies, he revive once but only with a single max heart/less max HPs.

I don't know if it's just me but I like Mom's new voice. :3

Oh, pro tips for you guys. If you hear an evil laugh, keep moving. You'll thank me later. :V

reeeeeeeally tempted to get this

There are worse ways to spend 15$. :3

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

The original would lag for no reason sometimes

the reason was Flash is shit

[LaserTurtle]

Oh, pro tips for you guys. If you hear an evil laugh, keep moving. You'll thank me later. :V

Spoiler:

wallmasters get back to your Zelda games

So, played a bunch, beat Mom, unlocked Lazarus and the Halo, proceeded to roll through the game as Lazarus. Cool items, and all that.

Actually got to the

Spoiler:

Mom's Heart

boss fight. Hoo boy, it's changed a lot. Touhou-style bullet patterns. I could probably have won if I didn't pick up the dead cat earlier in the game. As it was, I just died five times to the darn thing.

Spoiler:

the patterns are apparently randomized. There are some really cool ones, like this one that speeds up and slows down to the heartbeat

[Suikama]

i uh

i kinda broke the game?

Spoiler:

tanooki leaf + attack fly = i just uh automatically beat mom's heart :derp:

[Garlyle]

So I kinda streamed this for five hours.

Someone was mad at me because I got the Bible right before the Mom's Heart fight so I just obliterated her

Spoiler:

and then went straight to Sheol!?.  Sadly did not beat it in the end but

I  got to try out Eden.  You get one shot at them every time you beat Mom's Heart, and you start with what appears to be completely random items (it might be "random trinket + random activateable + random passive" but hell if I can say with any certainty yet).

Coolest run so far though was the Ludovico Technique (

Spoiler:

Your tears become tear, singular, and permanent.  It spawns with you in a room, and then you manually control it and sit it on top of enemies to damage them

).  Combined it with another new item and ended up with

Spoiler:

my own personal fireball, which ocasionally while damaging things would explode like a bomb and leave behind a pillar of flame

.  It was so much fun holy shit.

Also uh

BOSS RUSH OF EVERY BOSS

Garlyle wtf.

So the story about this I'm still NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED, but,

Spoiler:

When I defeated Mom during the "When Life Gives You Lemon" challenge, the wall nearby busted open.  I found a huge room in there with four item pedestals.  When I grabbed one, the other three vanished, and I proceed to fight, two at a time, basically every single boss from the original Binding of Isaac barring endbosses (so no Mom, Mom's Heart, Satan, Isaac, Blue Baby).  Including bosses that apparently were still locked from showing up in Rebirth).

I have no idea how this triggered, or what this is or what it does or what but it was FUN AS HELL because I was pretty terrifyingly powerful thanks to having transformed into Guppy during this run.

Give me a moment and I'll try to make a video highlight of the run.

[Third Eye Lem]

Finally beat Mom (not Mom's Heart yet) with Lazarus after a few attempts. He seems to start with a 1up effect but no other items, I cheesed my way through thanks to the Spirit of the Night :3c

I also found some really helpful items:

Spoiler:

- An Exploding Bomb Fly familiar that goes kaboom on contact with an enemy (explosion can still hurt you tho). Respawns after several seconds.
- The Leech: My new familiar familiar, heals you for half a heart every time it kills something.
- Lead Bar: Gives you concussive tears, which stun enemies and make them wander around for a bit. Doesn't work on certain enemies though.
- Mom's Eyeshadow: Got this in a separate run, but this gives your tears a chance to charm enemies. Very useful in crowded rooms and boss fights!
- Two new bomb effect items, one gives you concussive bombs and the other gives you bombs that explode into tears.
- Little Haunt: A ghost familiar that attacks enemies...Sometimes. Dunno what its triggers are to fight back.
- Libra: Equalizes your stats. Might be good, might be bad depending on what other items you collected earlier.

I love the variety in the room layouts

Spoiler:

(the Caves have pools of water, OMG)

, and the new enemies are both interesting and annoying. Raikaria also mentioned Black Hearts earlier, those

Spoiler:

damage all enemies in the room when you lose them.

I also like the larger rooms they added, they make each dungeon floor feel a lot bigger though it doesn't seem like the areas have "XL" versions yet. I'll have to look into this.

EDIT: The only thing that I kinda...Dislike is the music, after listening to Danny Baronovsky's soundtrack in the previous game, the sudden shift to something a lot less upbeat feels...Jarring.

Anyone try Hard Mode yet?

[Garlyle]

Jump to 1:31:00 for the run.  1:50-ish or so for the fight with Mom and the thing I found.  It's a complete run of the "When Life gives you lemons" challenge, where I also achieve the rare

Spoiler:

transform into Guppy

, get a new item or two, oh, and yeah, the thing mentioned earlier.

Also on my run where I cleared Mom's Heart, I realised afterwards that I kinda accidentally

EDIT: The only thing that I kinda...Dislike is the music, after listening to Danny Baronovsky's soundtrack in the previous game, the sudden shift to something a lot less upbeat feels...Jarring.

Anyone try Hard Mode yet?

I really, really dig the new music.  Especially once you hit the Depths and below.  The music down there is so amazing.

Also I've only been playing on Hard.  This might explain

Spoiler:

why I was able to head to Sheol

.

[Suikama]

Yeah the new music is really atmospheric but not nearly as iconic as the original

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

EDIT: The only thing that I kinda...Dislike is the music, after listening to Danny Baronovsky's soundtrack in the previous game, the sudden shift to something a lot less upbeat feels...Jarring.

Clearly this means you should swap between Binding of Isaac and Crypt of the Necrodancer. :V

[Suikama]

OH SHIT

Spoiler:

cobalt beat satan and then suddenly THE DARK ROOM

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

Oh god double krampus in a tiny ass room

Oh shit TRUE FINAL BOSS!?

okay that was more like the extra boss :V

[Garlyle]

OH SHIT

Spoiler:

cobalt beat satan and then suddenly THE DARK ROOM

Out of curiosity did that area look anything like this?.  Because I found this in

Spoiler:

a Super Secret Room, and those are all supposed to be based on the different sectors of the game but I have damn sure never seen this place before

.