Author Topic: Vanilla Mafia II (Game over, town wins!)  (Read 106325 times)

Serela

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #720 on: October 15, 2011, 11:35:55 PM »
Okay so I'm ready to read more mafia again

But I'm not really sure what else I have to say. :c

I think I got asked questions at some point. /finds

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Hey Serela, why is JOB town?
eh puts effort and doesn't afraid of pesco

But yeah, considering it's JOB, I thought he's been doing pretty great so far. I'm not expecting him to be the next Kilga or anything.  And I don't really see any kind of scumminess from him.

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The thing that started bothering me though is the sudden assault on Dormio, which I am seeing as OMGUS. Dormio has done nothing exceptionally wrong and Serela tries accusing him with "everything he can" (that's what I'm getting out of his posts), and so suddenly. And, you betcha, this started immediately after Dormio's vote on him. I see this as bad playing, but not necessarily scummy behavior.
He was sorta neutralish before that, but honestly I hadn't even -read- his stuff before that much (Which as people have said, is lackluster, and yes I've reread it by now) so. And then he did that, so he went from, as I said before; "IDK Read but Process of Elimination says scum" to "Scummish read and process of elimination agrees".

There is a different between "Case I don't agree with" and "Case made of bullshit". A case made of bullshit is scummy because if you're town, then you should geniunely believe your target is scum, and as such you should have/be able to find some kind of decent evidence as to WHY. If your evidence is bullshit then something is wrong, and the wrong is quite possibly that you aren't actually town.

Anyway I'm pretty sure Dormio is scum and I think PX is too. If PX isn't it then my next guess would definitely be Hero. I'm honestly fine with lynching any of these three, although PX practically needs to be policy lynched as well, so I suppose I'd put him first.
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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #721 on: October 15, 2011, 11:43:30 PM »
Dormio (0):
huh what (1): Hero999
BT (1): Pesco
Bardiche (0):
Pesco (0):
Serela (2): Dormio, PX
PX (3): Serela, JOB, BT
Hero999 (1): huh what
JOB (0):

Not Voting: Bardiche

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.  D3 ends in ~25 hours (watch countdown).

PX is at L-2
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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #722 on: October 15, 2011, 11:44:08 PM »
Policy lynches don't lynch scum, they lynch bad players.

PX lynch looks like a repeat of the Dan lynch from D1. Just about everybody thinks that a certain player has been derping up pretty badly, so they decide to agree that he's scum on the side and have an easy place to leave their vote instead of putting out effort into looking for the real scum (who escape being voted because one player is so polarizing). I dislike it, and it doesn't help that I already think that PX is town for reasons unrelated to the way his wagon is evolving.

Seriously, it would be pretty fucking awesome if there was finally a death that wasn't one of my town reads.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #723 on: October 15, 2011, 11:52:50 PM »
PX hasn't done anything at all. He is coasting through the game while providing 0 content. How is that not scummy?
I myself actually thought Dan was town. I think PX is either scum or useless (leaning on the first option).

Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #724 on: October 16, 2011, 12:16:18 AM »
I disagree that PX is coasting. He has been considered a target on every single day so far. In general, if people start looking too much at scum trying to coast then said scum will feel motivated to step their game and activity up.

Hero and Dormio have had comparable amounts of content to PX and what they actually have posted is scummier than PX's content. Hero's is something I've covered like a million times by now. Dormio is scummy because he's treating mafia like a chore rather than a game. He enters the thread to post attacks on the same select few people and then leaves until he can do the same thing again. He doesn't really interact with others or try to help town decide on a lynch or anything. There's no town intent in what he posts. PX is at least somewhat engaging and speaks up about his stances on more than two players at a time.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #725 on: October 16, 2011, 12:32:42 AM »
@Pesco: Why exactly is BT worse than PX? I think BT's at least trying.

@Huh What: ;_; I disagree. PX has been useless the entire game and rather than step it up, he's done none of the sort. He's been getting away with lurking away since Day goddamn One, and he hasn't improved on that since then, practically ignoring anyone making cases on him... and his most insightful post has been this, which is in Day 3 and rather late to be providing anything of use. Suggesting we policy lynch JOB is a terrible idea because we need to eliminate scum, and if we eliminate scum then we don't need to worry about JOB reaching LYLO.

His ONLY scum read is Serela. Let that sink in. Serela's the only guy he puts as scum. I think you can do much better than that. The only reason my vote isn't on him yet is the dread L-1 and someone herpderp quicklynching him stupidly.

I don't buy the Serela cases so far because they seem rather weak, and the only thing I can really hold against Serela is that he's been useless, but at the very least he's been there, posting and doing what looks like trying. I detect no such thing from PX, who is actually skillfully lurking and avoiding ever having to push anything.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #726 on: October 16, 2011, 12:41:46 AM »
@Bard: Can you please answer my question?

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #727 on: October 16, 2011, 05:20:27 AM »
This thread needs more activity, it's been more than 6 hours (if I counted correctly) since my last post.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #728 on: October 16, 2011, 07:50:53 AM »
@Bard: Supersheep. I'm sure you understood what I was doing when I said I wouldn't post until everyone else had made content today. It's not a subtle play and I think everyone else at least figured out that they have to get off their bums and show strong stances. I don't see how it's a misrep for me to say that BT wasn't going to show commitment if I was silent the entire day. What's been posted doesn't change:
In fact, you're the one who promped me to vote, here:
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I still don't like BT for not making a vote yet.
I voice suspicion of BT for not voting, immediate compliance from him. I'm calling bullshit that he needed a prod to take action.

Line by line analysis:
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I voiced who I thought was a suspect, without deciding on which one I wanted to vote.

We call this cheerleading a wagon.

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I was not certain who I'd be voting for then, so this couldn't have happened way earlier.

Zero suspects that you're willing to take a solid stance on. Bard, note here that he has NO scum reads and PX has at least one.

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Not casting a vote at all would be worse, so I voted the moment I was more sure of my choice.

This is pretty juicy. The choice that BT became sure of was PX. Last big post with opinions, has just one line about PX and a lot more on Dormio, Hero and NeoSerela. Repeat it out loud for yourself, how the heck did BT become sure of scumPX from nothing? "Oh but reads changed when people posted"...bullshit because you keep saying you're waiting for people to post more while you don't pose them any questions to respond to. You're happy to let PX trip himself up answering other people so that you can sheepvote him when the wagon gets big i.e. when I put him to L-2 and it started looking like his wagon was the sure lynch for the day.

I wanted to do a bigger reread once more posts show up. If it's urgent, I can do one now.

@BT: I just looked over that part, and I feel like your trying to say that you want them to do something wrong.

This is what makes Hero town.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #729 on: October 16, 2011, 08:04:53 AM »
I don't see how that makes Hero town, but I see how it makes BT scum.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #730 on: October 16, 2011, 08:14:34 AM »
I'm calling bullshit that he needed a prod to take action.
Wrong, but I see you're not going to change your mind about this anyway.
We call this cheerleading a wagon.
I wasn't sure about my suspect, so I was cheerleading. In that case, was Bard cheerleading when he named PX and Dormio but not one of them?
Zero suspects that you're willing to take a solid stance on. Bard, note here that he has NO scum reads and PX has at least one.
If I wanted a quick read that would cast suspicion on me, I would have at least one as well. The difference is that I'm thinking like a townie here, while he is not.
This is pretty juicy. The choice that BT became sure of was PX. Last big post with opinions, has just one line about PX and a lot more on Dormio, Hero and NeoSerela. Repeat it out loud for yourself, how the heck did BT become sure of scumPX from nothing? "Oh but reads changed when people posted"...bullshit because you keep saying you're waiting for people to post more while you don't pose them any questions to respond to. You're happy to let PX trip himself up answering other people so that you can sheepvote him when the wagon gets big i.e. when I put him to L-2 and it started looking like his wagon was the sure lynch for the day.
Finally a valid point.

At the time, I didn't have a clear stance about PX. He was posting too little so I found it hard to actually do something with him. Hero, on the other hand, I was annoyed with the little posts he actually had. By the time D2 was over, my opinion on PX was solidifying and Hero has been acting... weird, still, but less weird than I remembered. This is why I was completely fine with a unison PX wagon at the end there, willing to stay up for it if need be. By the time I posted my vote, my opinion had changed. Yes, it changed, I don't have much to do about that, do I? I could make the same fuss about you being almost silent about PX the whole game, going instead for Dan, Shadoweh and myself, then suddenly voting for him and putting him at L-2.

I honestly don't see anything special about these accusations. They're not definitively scummy, and they're not very stable either. I really do see this as more of a "fling everything we have" case than anything else.
This is what makes Hero town.
I would like an explanation to this.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #731 on: October 16, 2011, 08:15:39 AM »
cast suspicion on --> remove suspicion on

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #732 on: October 16, 2011, 08:37:38 AM »
I really do see this as more of a "fling everything we have" case than anything else.
Really? I think Pesco is making good points as to why you're scum. It's almost like you're trying to fling everything back at him instead.

Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #733 on: October 16, 2011, 08:43:52 AM »
BT: Why are you able to defend yourself against Pesco right now, but not able to answer my question?

Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #734 on: October 16, 2011, 08:48:53 AM »
##Unvote
##Vote BT
Forgot this.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #735 on: October 16, 2011, 09:25:22 AM »
Why does he think that the PX lynch is ideal today?
Is there anything I need to answer here aside from 'why I think he's scum'? Since I already answered that, and the 'ideal' lynch for a certain day is lynching the guy who's most scummy, so I don't get what you're asking.

Do you believe me to be scummier than Hero (or Pesco, who you are currently agreeing with), despite my 'defense'?

Also, JOB, do you believe I'm doing this because I'm trying to get Pesco lynched? Since, if I was going for that, I would have voted him already.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #736 on: October 16, 2011, 09:32:44 AM »
@BT: No, I think your doing to defend yourself. It still doesn't look good though.

Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #737 on: October 16, 2011, 09:37:23 AM »
Is there anything I need to answer here aside from 'why I think he's scum'? Since I already answered that, and the 'ideal' lynch for a certain day is lynching the guy who's most scummy, so I don't get what you're asking.
Your posts haven't made you seem very confident in PX being scum. Given that you thought lynching him could have been a total waste of time yesterday, this is a really awkward swing in opinions IMO, especially given the wagon on PX. Explain your thought process on why PX is suddenly the most scummy player as opposed to being a crapshoot as a lynch target, please.

Will address the question later.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #738 on: October 16, 2011, 10:42:08 AM »
@Bardiche: Okay I assume you're referring to the words in #677.

Let's start with Dormio and his very first post in the game, which is cheerleading a wagon on Shadoweh by pointing out WIFOM, but then jumping on BT for utterly camp reasons. One has to wonder about priorities, as he continues cheerleading the Shadoweh case by accusing her of active lurking while sticking to a BT case, which is reasonably weaker. BT is a new player, I can't imagine Shadoweh active lurking is a weaker charge than BT not making sense yet.
At the time I felt like prodding BT more. Meh.

To point out: defending another player is BAD, but it's not a scumtell by itself. Only once the other player flips, and even then it's circumstantial, where active lurking is scummy any way you slice it. His jump off of BT is sudden and hardly explained, other than that Dan is suddenly worse. He comments that Dan doesn't have cases except PX for ED1 stuff, and that Dan doesn't have comments about the rest of the game.
I was reconsidering my thoughts about BT at that point, though I still disliked Shadoweh somewhat. Disliked Dan. And?

Up to this point, Dormio has had a case on BT for early day 1 stuff and hasn't commented on anything not Shadoweh or BT. Hypocrisy isn't scummy, but it is when you pretend that the same traits in other people is scummy. I'll note the excusing for activity because this shit was done last game by Dan himself, until we lynched his red-coloured arse.
Meh. I think it was somewhat different but whatever.

He explains his case later, but calls it a reiteration: as if he had to restate a case. Look at the previous post. Is there really a case? His case comes down to "Dan has too many Town reads", and repeats a request for more about the rest of the game. Dormio has still not commented on the rest of the game, focusing solely on Dan without ever going back to how Shadoweh or BT are scum. Or anyone. He's slamming Dan for town reads but doesn't seem to dispute whether the person in question is Town or not, and the add-on from post #150 onwards is just "Dan is defending himself", which again is not a trait that alone defines scumminess.
Perhaps I should have worded it as "clarified". Whatever. I had changed my read of BT at this point. And didn't really know how to make out what I thought about Shadoweh.

The case up to this point is Utter Shit. His excuse for not commenting on the rest of the game himself is anyone not mentioned is town or neutral, and everyone is neutral to him. Way to dodge responsibility. His case on Dan becomes further shit when he clears Shadoweh without any explanation to it himself, and minor suspicion on BT which doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Up to here, Dan is scum, Shadoweh is Town, BT is "a thing" and everyone else is neutral.
Eh, neutral was basically what I was calling town. Townish being below neutral. Terrible system, yes, but oh well. That's all I can really say about that.

Don't scumhunt now, you might tire yourself out. His "a thing" of BT is based on Early Day Content, which he still holds against Dan alongside not commenting on the rest of the game, where his comment was a blanket "everyone's neutral".
I will agree that it was a blanket statement, but I really didn't see anything interesting about everyone else.

He later contradicts his own case by saying he doesn't care about who Dan thinks are Town. Even though he voted Dan for clearing people as Town! Dan doing "anything" to save himself isn't really Scum, you know. Town also want to survive, unless you're Pesco and have to suffer Serela clearing JOB as useful content.
I meant that as in Dan was giving us town reads, but no scum reads basically.

NOW THEN, on to Day2, where Dormio just succesfully lynched Dan based on who Dan cleared as Town and that Dan defended himself too much. This is fucking circumstantial and terrible, in my opinion, but alright. Vote goes to Shadoweh after she was his only Town read the other day! The case isn't that bad, but it's stuff that happened Day 1, and I ill see how that reads as Town one Day and as SUPER SCUM PRIORITY #1 the other Day, and no, he hasn't mentioned anyone outside of Dan/BT/Shadoweh as possible scum yet.
All I can say is that Shadoweh looked scummy to me at this point.

He later finally materialises something and that something is that there is one scum and three weird, where Huh What is mysteriously mentioned but later not touched on. Pesco also mentioned. These are people others were voicing suspicion of. BT is still there, and he claims that's because BT's list tells us nothing. Whereas Dormio's tells us more amiright. After blanket clearing everyone as "neutral" earlier on, I find this objectionable content from Dormio.
I had a few qualms with how Pesco was attacking Shadoweh, but then I though Shadoweh was scum. Meh.

He then moves on to respond to BT, and we still don't know why Huh What and Pesco are "weird" for him! And then on to D3. Wow, this is going fast. Ninja vote on Serela out of nowhere based on content from the previous Day, which he made no mention of at all the previous day!
huh what because gut. Pesco because of self voting weird stuff.

And that's it. No really, that's it. Dormio hasn't done anything else the entire game and has never actively tried to scumhunt besides latching onto the popular Shadoweh case with a good enough case but yeah, that's it. He's mentioned BT, Shadoweh and Dan as scum suspects, one of which went from Scum to Town to Scum, and now suddenly votes Serela out of nowhere, ignoring his suspicions of Pesco and Huh What the previous day. Or his suspicion of BT.
I don't think I really "latched onto" the Shadoweh wagon. Whatever.

Don't particularly like BT getting lynched.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #739 on: October 16, 2011, 11:04:46 AM »
Will address the question later.
No, you won't. You voted me over Hero. Either you think I'm worse, which you need to explain now, or it's completely unjustified.

As for your question:

In this post, I say how I'm lacking info from PX in order to stabilize my read on him, while presenting enough weird behavior from Hero to warrant a vote. To understand what happened between then and now, let's look at their posts. Starting from Hero's:

Some more random posts that don't achieve much. Standard fare.
A case on Serela. I said earlier how this seems kind of bad, and to explain this: the accusations are overall random, he doesn't comment on these things earlier but saves it for one big 'everything I can find on you' post (a lot of these posts being from D1), and all this as a combination seems like he was looking for accusations.
Some actual thoughts here.
Then there's this, which I have already commented on. In hindsight, saying he didn't say anything earlier is false according to the former link, but I read it as more of a "I'd lynch Shadoweh over Pesco" post rather than a refusal to lynch either of them. I'm still not happy about that random lynch request, which is a terrible idea. If he cared more, he would have backed up the "we want a big PX wagon instead"  posts that were going on 5? hours before deadline. This is, of course, assuming he thought PX was worse than Shadoweh, which I can't really tell based on his posts.
Of course, I wouldn't have been as angry about it if not for this post, in which he displays how unhappy he is with Shadoweh, still without voting. I would have expected a hammer there, but... did you really stay with your town Shadoweh read after that post, and after stating how you'd remove your former statement? All in all, weird.
D3 begins with these two posts. The usual questions with no content, but he DOES raise some town concerns.
This case, I do not agree with. A lot of the accusations were bad, and I still read this as a sort of OMGUS for HW's votes. This is after he shifted his vote from HW, to Serela, and how to HW while stating how Serela is acting weird without voting him, since for whatever reason HW suddenly became worse again.
More questions. Some more useless posts follow, which I get ok-ish vibes from. (got tired of linking every single post...)

And then we have PX's post, starting with this one that gets cut by mine. He expresses displeasure from Serela following by a vote, saying he'll explain later. Seems like a "hold on, I can actually do contributing but not now, later". And, indeed, later comes a Serela case with an overview of everything attached. The case is ok, but I don't like how he leaves room to jump on the Shadoweh wagon in the future.
A whole bunch of posts defending against JOB which I am NOT going to link. Some are legit but some are just odd. I'm seeing some of this as unneeded precautions.
He shows his activity without actually saying/updating anything despite the Pesco/Shadoweh thing. Help?
And here is the expected Shadoweh vote. He had not updated his thoughts at ALL from that post, which was a while earlier. He said in that post that Pesco was "town scum but green" without explaining and without updating his opinion. Overall looks like "ok, I said stuff about Shadoweh before so now I'm just going to lynch here, I hope no one minds and oh yeah I'm maybe going to explain later maybe not".
And where's the explanation? It doesn't come. Instead we have here a post in which he mistakes my sarcasm for an accusation and immediately defends himself. Honestly, I think even Pesco saw the sarcasm and replied assuming it wasn't. I see this as another case of too much defense.
And that's it. Nothing more from D2. He was showing activity despite not presenting enough clarification/reiteration to his (very little) points and while not responding to the many accusations on him despite those of JOB, which were very easy to defend against. I was really, really not satisfied with this. Then comes D3:
A return to the Serela case, in which he presents a lot of coincidental accusations (being on the wrong wagons, not being connected to the NKs) among other shaky accusations. Is this honestly the worst scum you could have found? What about explaining your read about everyone else? You'd put Dormio as "town leaning neutral still..." without explaining why, and giving Hero the benefit of the doubt similarly to what Hero did with Shadoweh... yeah, seriously? Oh, and a request to policy lynch JOB. Don't get me started on how much this annoyed me. And that's his only post up to now, too. All the others were this and that, which show signs of activity and nothing else. He also still doesn't respond to anyone's accusations (but JOB's ?).

tl;dr

I don't like either of them. They both have weird votes and weird cases, along with behavior I don't see as town behavior. What's the difference, then? Hero actually posts more. He questions plenty of players, potentially putting him at risk. This is not something I'm seeing from PX. Most of his replies have been to people like JOB, when there are obviously other people who are addressing him more than JOB. I also see signs of over-defensiveness. He lurks, looks for easy replies and easy cases, and to top it all off he's being defensive. Hero is slightly more daring, like he has less to lose, and this is the difference I'm seeing.

My opinion on Hero didn't change overall from my vote on him on D2. My opinion on PX, though, did. I saw him as neutral-maybe-scum, but now I see him as scum. This warranted the change in opinion and vote. Is this to your satisfaction?

Cut by a big Dormio post.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #740 on: October 16, 2011, 11:20:30 AM »
Good morning, and sh'yeah no, ##Vote: PX, we are not lynching BT today.

Look at Dormio's retort to the case on him. "Whatever". What are you, Squall? BT does a much better job, and I don't really feel like he's at all scum.

I'll grant that between Hero and PX, there is not a great distinction to be made, but in this case, I'm going with GUT!, and stubborn tenacity. I've wanted PX's lynch since D1. He has made no attempts that I can see to dispel this desire from me, indeed, to even come close to expunging my idea that he is scum to the rotten core that deserves to be tossed off a twelve-story building. Twice, now, have we come close to lynching him, and twice has he escaped the lynch. Is it not time we lynch the goddamn scum in front of us? If you were almost lynched twice, would you still be as impassive as PX? Would you still persist in lurking like shit?

I suppose so, because we've been rewarding him thus far. No. We are not lynching BT.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #741 on: October 16, 2011, 11:41:22 AM »
@Bard: Can you please answer my question?

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #742 on: October 16, 2011, 12:00:00 PM »
I thought my ignoring your question would set off some kind of alarm bell that maybe I had a reason for that, but since you insist. Here you go: your floundering and helpless piggying around doesn't impress upon me in the slightest that you've even a sliver of scum in you. Put plainly, you strike me as too stupid and uncoordinated to be scum this game.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #743 on: October 16, 2011, 12:22:53 PM »
...Wait wait wait...BT, one of the points your attacking me with is the fact that I expressed suspicions on shadoweh JUST before JOB hammered it?

sigh...lemme go read PX now. Every time I tried I get side tracked by something else/.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #744 on: October 16, 2011, 12:33:09 PM »
I thought my ignoring your question would set off some kind of alarm bell that maybe I had a reason for that, but since you insist. Here you go: your floundering and helpless piggying around doesn't impress upon me in the slightest that you've even a sliver of scum in you. Put plainly, you strike me as too stupid and uncoordinated to be scum this game.
I could guess you had a reason for not answering that but I still wanted to know why.
Lol, I don't even think I'm that stupid and uncoordinated in this game at all.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #745 on: October 16, 2011, 12:34:26 PM »
The JOB hammer is completely unrelated. Basically, you said you didn't want to lynch any of them (and with bad timing too), then you showed how you didn't like Shadoweh without actually doing anything else. You even said you were retracting what you said about giving Shadoweh a chance, and this made me expect a hammer, which you did not deliver. It's like you sided with the lynch without actually voting in it.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #746 on: October 16, 2011, 01:03:13 PM »
I could guess you had a reason for not answering that but I still wanted to know why.
Lol, I don't even think I'm that stupid and uncoordinated in this game at all.

Are you saying I'm wrong and you're really scum? :derp:

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #747 on: October 16, 2011, 01:14:18 PM »
@BT: You fail to consider that there was an hour or two left in the day, I had that suspicion stated because I wanted shadoweh to clarify, you turning it  into a point against me, is unreasonable.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #748 on: October 16, 2011, 01:14:46 PM »
Are you saying I'm wrong and you're really scum? :derp:
Yes.
No, I just don't think that I've personally been that stupid and uncoordinated this game.
I actually think I've improved quite a lot recently.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D3)
« Reply #749 on: October 16, 2011, 01:58:05 PM »
Still not really anything to say but I guess I'll throw out to Huhwhat because of her town read of PX;

Notice how he seems to make one case, then do absolutely nothing for the entire rest of the day? He's done this, like, every single day so far. Okay on D1 he made -two- cases and then did absolutely nothing. But still. After those he just seems to make one-liner posts that are usually defending himself.

Yeah this is one of the reasons I'd lynch PX first. At least my other two choices say stuff sometimes.
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore