Vanilla Mafia II (Game over, town wins!)

[Hero999]

...Okay what the fuck
Shadoweh's latest post is freaking...what?

Her suspects, Pesco, Hero999, Dormio. Using Sid as a reference for every expectations from ,e

Pescos posts stuff.

Sudden memory of Why Hero is town.

.........

Wow I feel like taking back my statement and hitting shadoweh with it now.

[J.O.B]

Lucky I got sick, otherwise I wouldn't be here for deadline.

@Shadoweh: I liked Bardiche's case. It made sense to me, and now I get why you were being called scum.
##Vote Shadoweh
Not a gambit this time.

[Kitten4u]

Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (0):
Bardiche (0):
Omba (0):
Pesco (4): huh what, BT, Shadoweh, Serela
Serela (1): Hero999
PX (0):
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):
Shadoweh (6): Bardiche, Dormio, PX, Pesco, Omba, JOB

Not Voting:

Shadoweh has been lynched.  She was a Vanilla Townie
Night actions are due in 24 hours.

[Kitten4u]

Overnight Omba died.  He was a Vanilla Townie

Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (0):
Bardiche (0):
Pesco (0):
Serela (0):
PX (0):
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):

Not Voting: Bardiche, Dormio, PX, Pesco, JOB, huh what, BT, Serela, Hero999

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
D3 ends on October 16th at 9 PM EST (watch countdown).

[Omba]

Hey guyz, if you see the scum, could you please tell them this for me?

[nsfw]http://sadpanda.us/images/506326-6W2O68Z.jpg[/nsfw]

[Serela]

>Overnight Omba died

>Omba died

>Omba

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

okay fine

I'm too sleepy to actually say anything, but. My thoughts about Hero and PX from yesterday still hold.

##Vote: PX

we were so close D1 guise can we finally lynch the scum today

[J.O.B]

Uhh.Why are there only two posts since day start?

I want to say first that I did not see Omba's vote before I hammered Shadoweh. I had intended to put her a L-1 but I had no idea she already was there.

Now then.
##Vote PX
His lynch is long overdue.

[BT]

I... well, this was interesting.

I was going to stay up in order to post this:

Scum, scum everywhere.

I know we all have a lot to say, but before we do anything, I demand that the following people state their opinion on players and what route they want the town to take:

PX
JOB
Serela
Hero
Dormio

Why? Not enough involvement, not only during last day, but during D1 as well! I will NOT accept another day like this. Right here, right now, you are going to take a stance on your own. No "I agree with playerthathasactuallyexplainedtheiractions". This is why I want this done NOW, and before anyone else posts. So, for this, I'm also asking for everyone else to not post for a while.

There should be NO excuses, a lot has happened and not having any opinion is unacceptable.

I was not expecting an out-of-the-blue PX wagon, though. If you really want this, expain why it's better than every other choice and why, since currently, there are many choices and plenty to say about each choice.

I'm going to post 'my thoughts' once these people post, and JOB and Serela explain themselves.

[Pesco]

Fair enough. I'm not posting until those 5 have all put out some content.

[J.O.B]

I was going to stay up in order to post this:I was not expecting an out-of-the-blue PX wagon, though. If you really want this, expain why it's better than every other choice and why, since currently, there are many choices and plenty to say about each choice.

The PX wagon happened because PX hasn't done shit.
And I summed up my thoughts on D1 with my opinions post.
If you really want another post then I'll do it. I just think I have at least had some involvement with town.

[BT]

Notice how I said "not enough involvement". I didn't say you were idling the whole game.

Don't you think D1 opinions are a tad outdated now?

[J.O.B]

I did notice you said "Not enough", I just thought I had done more.

I'm doing a reread now. Will be done whenever.

[J.O.B]

Here we go.

"Pesco: Looking town for some reasons, but looking scum for other reasons. His contribution is not exactly the best in early game, but during D2 he starts putting out a lot of content. I've already explained how he can get his point across using few words, but I would really like to see what he could do with a really long case. His Schezo vote early D1 was terribad, because the only reason he gave was "You sound scummy now". The fact that he mentioned policy lynching Shadoweh at LYLO disturbs me. A lot of his posts are filled with questions, which can be a town tell because of scumhunting. His Dan case was pretty good, would like to see more cases of that length and depth from him. His giving up was bad, but I could see it as townie frustration. Overall I would say that Pesco is town. The only thing he has really done bad was tunnelling on Shadoweh and BT.

Hero999: Okay, Hero has made what, 19 posts (not including confirmation post)? That's what I counted. There is not enough at all from Hero here. He really needs to get his ass in gear and start posting some more. All his parroting was bad, and if he says he is going to start using his own scumhunting powers instead, I would hope he starts very soon. I would say that arguably his best post was the one that focused completely on Serela. Because that actually had something in it. He is scum unless he starts contributing, then I can decide for real.

Serela: Serela also needs to post more (18 posts(not including confirmation)). But I think that compared to Hero, Serela actually tries to put content in his posts. The only part I don't like about Serela is the lack of posts, but I'm fine with everything else. Town.

Dormio: Dormio appears to have lower activity than Hero, but surprisingly he actually has more posts. I don't really find anything wrong with Dormio other than his activity levels. Town.

Bardiche: Bardiche is town, no doubt about it. He has made solid cases, and contributes a lot. The only issue I really have with him was his early D1 (and that wasn't much of a big issue) and the fact that he hasn't been nightkilled yet Town.

Huhwhat: Huhwhat is also very town. He has made solid cases, and contributes a lot. I don't really need to say anything else about him. Town.

BT: BT was bad D1, but he was still trying. His D2 wasn't the best either. He had an argument with Pesco and he didn't really do too much either. In fact, I think he actually had less contribution than me overall. I had a decent D1 and D2, but his D2 was probably the only one with any good contribution. I think he's a confused derptownie.

PX: I don't really have anything else to say on PX other than what I have already said. He really needs to post some content. Policy lynch plz."

[Hero999]

@Serela: What the hell? You prefered my lynch so much yesterday, you even stated that you prefer Hero over PX, and you stated that you feel the same as you did yesterday, so what the hell? Your actions don't match what you say. -_-

@Job: I'm personally starting to feel that your attacking just for the sake of attacking me. Your only case on me is that I was parroting. Which by itself is a pretty weak case apparently. Which you've held onto since ...D1? D2?

@Pesco: I have some views on why you would hold back on content, bit after all is said and then, I wish for you to clarify why you say such a thing.

And thats all I can say at the moment, schools calling.

[J.O.B]

@Hero: The reason why I'm still attacking you is because I have not seen any improvement since I first accused you of parroting. But I've stopped accusing you of parroting, because your not doing that anymore. In case you didn't notice, I'm attacking you because you haven't done much at all, just like PX.

[J.O.B]

Oh and Huhwhat still hasn't posted "Why Pesco and Hero are scum Vol.2: Hero".

[Pesco]

I did far too much talking yesterday. There's definitely scumsheep in these parts.

[Bardiche]

I, too, would like to hear the others speak. Pesco and I both contribute a lot of :words: to the thread, and given we've been wrong in our directions thus far, it seems reasonable for scum to let us live to generate more words while they skirt by.

Serela, why PX over Hero?

[Kitten4u]

Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (0):
Bardiche (0):
Pesco (0):
Serela (0):
PX (2): Serela, JOB
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):

Not Voting: Bardiche, Dormio, PX, Pesco, huh what, BT, Hero999

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.  D3 ends in ~56 hours (watch countdown).

[Bardiche]

... Also I swear I will lynch the shit out of the lot of you if you just lurk past the day.

[Serela]

okay home from school wheeeeeee

K. Hero/PX/Dormio/Pesco are the only people I don't believe are town. Even Pesco I'm leaning towards town a little. And then Dormio I'm like "idk", but now that I think about it, how much did he say yesterday, again...? Anyway. Out of those, Hero/PX are definitely the two people I don't like.

PX makes like no content at all. His d1 consists of exactly two posts with one case in them and the rest is pretty much useless, his d2 has like one post of content and the rest is pretty much useless. PX is active lurker as fuck, and should die.

Hero is... well, he has more content then PX. He still has barely any content. His d2 had a terrible case on huhwhat ( I don't care if the other lynch choice was lead by ALL your scum picks, someone picked by a majority is better then a Keinelynch for several reasons, one of which being ~*~information~*~), and then OMGuS'd me and that was about it.

tbh I think they both look really scummy and I waffle between which one I want to die first, I'm perfectly fine with lynching either as long as we lynch ONE of them. And to use tbh again, I don't think they're scum together purely because I hope Kitten would change one person on the scumteam if the RNG chose those two together. But trying outguessing the mod is bad, plus it would be a really DUMB way to lose, so it by no means clears one if the other flips scum.

I had another paragraph but it was really dumb and useless and speculatory so I deleted it herp derp

ilu bardcut

[Hero999]

Then someone tell me, what kind of information did we even get out of Shadoweh Lynch?
For me I feel like its a freaking wall right now, because of the intense focus yesterday on 2 people, there really was no information I gleaned out of the shadoweh lynch.
Please tell me how the shadoweh lynch ended up better then having a laiser random lynch.

Anyways re-reading now weekends huzzah

[Serela]

Please tell me how the shadoweh lynch ended up better then having a laiser random lynch.

because everyone would have kept being hung up on shadoweh otherwise and kept calling for her head

When half (or more) of the game is convinced someone is scum, letting them live another day probably won't make everyone suddenly think they're town, even moreso because this is vanilla and there are no role shenanigans to save you. But, with her gone, at least now people can concentrate on OTHER things! Hooray.

[Hero999]

One thing I like to note is that by looking at the Votes currently Serela was on both counter wagons. I consider this something like avoiding detection.

I remember before the Shadoweh + Pesco spat, that Omba had mentioned Huh what.
I look at him now, and when I consider certain things.
JOB has mentioned about the Why Pesco + Hero Vol.2 being missing. Coincidence?

This declaration is also a claim to have nailed the scum team, which is something really suspicious in my eyes.

He declared Serela as vigbait at the beginning of D2 , and has since then not mention him in the slightest.

Throughout D1, he was with Schezo going, um...hello scum there lynch him. While Schezo tried to do the convincing, Huh What was seemingly just following along.

D2 He tries to start a wagon on me, he says he did not bother trying to continue to convince people because they were not interested.

If he truly believed I was scum, then there was no reason for him to have not tried to convince people even if it clogs up the thread, because even if it does clog the thread up, atleast hes bringing attention to it. Which he did not. Other then "Look at Hero! hes so Scummyyyy" "See He matches his name!"

...Where was I again?

Ah right, ##Vote Huh What

[Pesco]

K. Hero/PX/Dormio/Pesco are the only people I don't believe are town.

And why is everyone else town?

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

All I have to say is: Ugh.
How does I words?

##Vote Serela

Oh and PX is actually making words now. This makes him... less bad. But his D1 is still horrible. But I think I'll go ahead and
##Unvote ##Vote Hero

Hero lynch isn't happening, my next favorite lynch as I've said is PX, and I see lots of support for a PX lynch!

Fine, I can wait on a Hero lynch until tomorrow if I have to. We've got plenty of mislynches. But I really want him dead.

Hero still needs to die but everyone else forgot so I'm despairing in the possibility of this.

I just remembered OH HEY PX EXISTS. But he's being useless again. Pro-town+++! I'm okay with lynching him too because his content this game is almost nonexistent.

People I'd like to lynch: PX, Hero (Prefer Hero)

Hey, what is this?
When and why did PX take priority over Hero for you? I mean, you opened today with a vote on PX, despite how often you called Hero worse than PX.

GUT screams that Shadoweh is not scum. If I try to apply logic to this line of thinking I get "scum!Shadoweh would not play like this". If I try to appeal to meta people like Bard did I get "Shadoweh isn't acting like her usual self? Well guess what she's been for the past bajillion games.", which is basically what Bard said.

But reading actual posts says she's scum.

I think I'm going to err on the side of her being town.

Pesco, I keep waffling between whether he's town or scum. I'm just not sure. I'm okay with lynching him I suppose because everyone is going to remain hung-up over it if we don't (You know it's true.), and because information is coolbeans. But I do think it's quite possible that both Pesco and Shadoweh are town.

Nice waffle and fence sit on the two main wagons yesterday.

And then there was pretty much no content at all from Serela.
It is interesting to note how all of his targets seem to be whoever is popular at the time.


Also, blatant sheeping.
##FoS PX

[Serela]

And why is everyone else town?

Hmm... everyone else is Job/Bard/BT/Huhwhat

They pretty much all seem to consistently be good contributors and make nice posts and be cool and stuff, basically.

Not that I'd be utterly shocked if one turned out to be scum, but that's something to be left for later in the game when more likely suspects have already been weeded out. They are, simply, much more town-looking then everyone else, as of so far.

Oh hey dormio cut
Complains at me because I want to vote my other scumpick instead of the scumpick I liked more yesterday
they were both my scumpicks, is it -that bad-? ;_;

Dormio says my targets are "whoever is popular at the time". LOLWUT? Dude... my targets yesterday were the NOT popular people. Hero was barely even mentioned by most people, and he was my biggest target yesterday. And I didn't want to lynch the people who WERE popular.

You say I waffle and fence sit about Shadoweh/Pesco, when I say "Shadoweh is probably town" and well I guess I sorta fence sit on Pesco but pretty much I made clear I didn't particularly think he was scum and wanted Hero/PX dead way more.

And I make cases on Hero/PX, both yesterday and today, (Okay the PX one is sorta tiny but jeez he doesn't really do anything to make a bigger case on in the first place) question Hero and get places doing so, even provoking him into OMGuS'ing on me, and you completely ignore that, instead saying "Nope no other content from Serela".

basically Dormio's case on me is made of misrep

and then dormio goes from "neutral but process of elimination makes him likely scum" to "I don't like him and process of elimination agrees with me", hooray.

[Serela]

also the "blatant sheeping", I can't tell if it's pointed at me or PX. It'd be cool to explain what you mean there regardless of who it's pointed at. If it's at me I don't know how I'm sheeping when I seem to be going against what the rest of town wants to do so I'd love to find out what I'm apparently doing wrong here.

[Serela]

TRIPLE POST AWW YEAH.

Hero's case on huhwhat has been made significantly better. I still think Huhwhat is town, but it's not a bad case anymore. Another reason why my vote is on PX instead of Hero today. Would be so cool to lynch scum!PX today and then scum!Dormio tomorrow, but I'm probably getting ahead of myself here. If I'm overreacting about Dormio I'll probably realize it when I wake up tomorrow.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Uh, what is misrep?
Nice OMGUS read change there, though. Keep it up.

Dormio says my targets are "whoever is popular at the time". LOLWUT? Dude... my targets yesterday were the NOT popular people. Hero was barely even mentioned by most people, and he was my biggest target yesterday. And I didn't want to lynch the people who WERE popular.

>PX
>Not popular
Wut?

And I make cases on Hero/PX, both yesterday and today, (Okay the PX one is sorta tiny but jeez he doesn't really do anything to make a bigger case on in the first place) question Hero and get places doing so, even provoking him into OMGuS'ing on me, and you completely ignore that, instead saying "Nope no other content from Serela".

And you accuse me of misrep'ing? I said and then there were none, implying that the Hero and PX things that I was referring to kind of existed, you know?

You say I waffle and fence sit about Shadoweh/Pesco, when I say "Shadoweh is probably town" and well I guess I sorta fence sit on Pesco but pretty much I made clear I didn't particularly think he was scum and wanted Hero/PX dead way more.

Uh huh. I like how. unlike the other people you go out of your way to label as town and stuff, you use vague terms for both major lynch candidates.

The blatant sheeping is something I'm doing by FoS'ing PX.