Author Topic: Vanilla Mafia II (Game over, town wins!) (Read 105966 times)

Shadoweh · « **Reply #600 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:09:18 PM »

Pesco: Instead of just saying it makes as much sense as DotS balance, can you explain to me the reasoning for a town!PX to vote me at any point? I don't think it's logical. And it wouldn't matter which of us dies first if we're both town. You would still have some credibility even if I was lynched. You've effectively killed anyone's expectations of my abilities already.

What do you think of how Hero hasn't actually been tunneling? He hasn't felt latched onto anyone.

Omba: I'm looking if this BT case has any merit first. It's true that he's overdefensive, which I've been dismissing as a scared newbie.

PX · « **Reply #601 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:16:46 PM »

Just got back from class, but BT, what?

You're going to refute Pesco's arguement... and then use it to throw it at me and Pesco?

??

Omba · « **Reply #602 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:18:22 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on October 12, 2011, 08:09:18 PM

Omba: I'm looking if this BT case has any merit first. It's true that he's overdefensive, which I've been dismissing as a scared newbie.

I'm not asking if you still want Pesco lynched the most, I'm asking if you still believe in your case on Pesco.

BT · « **Reply #603 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:20:01 PM »

Gahhh being cut a lot.

Quote from: Shadoweh on October 12, 2011, 07:46:58 PM

BT: Pesco is scum likely to be lynched, why do you care what he says?

I don't know if you've realized, but... it's currently 3-3. Assuming you and Pesco stay as prime lynch candidates, you re-lynch and Pesco goes back on your wagon, it's 4-4. Serela looks like a Pesco vote, JOB and PX look like a Shadoweh vote. Unless they've reread a bit and changed their minds, you're getting lynched.

And why wouldn't I care? He's trying to get me lynched in a stupid way. Nothing is set in stone, and with all the stuff he's been flinging at me for the entirety of today, he could have possibly assembled a wagon on me quite easily had I not argued against it. He's still trying to arrange one on me, so I'm still arguing against it.

Quote from: PX on October 12, 2011, 08:16:46 PM

Just got back from class, but BT, what?

You're going to refute Pesco's arguement... and then use it to throw it at me and Pesco? ??

Quote from: Pesco on October 12, 2011, 07:52:15 PM

Sure go ahead and flip PX if you want. What Pesco/PX has that's not in Omba/BT is that we've spoken about each other and made it clear that we don't find each other scum. I believe it's a stance that myself and PX will keep until a cop can prove otherwise.

I was just demonstrating how you can easily build accusations like you did with little effort. PX was just a wild example. Also, what's your point?

Quote from: Shadoweh on October 12, 2011, 08:09:18 PM

It's true that he's overdefensive, which I've been dismissing as a scared newbie.

I like replying to anything I'm able to reply to (like I'm demonstrating here). In this case, it translates into being overdefensive. This is a bad habit.

BT · « **Reply #604 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:23:39 PM »

Also I meant "JOB and Hero".

Bardiche · « **Reply #605 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:31:55 PM »

Quote from: PX on October 12, 2011, 08:16:46 PM

Just got back from class, but BT, what?

You're going to refute Pesco's arguement... and then use it to throw it at me and Pesco? ??

Sup dawg, some of us are arguing you're scum, your response is pretending the argument doesn't exist?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #606 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:33:12 PM »

Oh I forgot that Scum!Me could have just lurked through BT hammering PX instead of attracting all this attention in the first place. More depressing reasons I don't think any of you are really rereading the game.

why BT wasn't voting Dan. This is an explanation of why you aren't voting Dan. There isn't a single reason in here why you voted for PX. Your reasoning for unvoting Dan is pulled from huh what's post here.

Honestly I don't think this is worth lynching over, nor are there many connections besides Omba. The following isn't true at the most important point of yesterday either. Omba wanted Dan deader then dirt and BT refused to vote because he wanted to hammer PX. I'd rather lynch Omba then BT if it came down to it.

Omba: If I was ever sure on anything I wouldn't be me. I think the parts not written in anger still hold. His answer to my pointing at PX was to deride it, so he's still doing the same thing as earlier. Trying to redirect the lynch onto BT at this point doesn't exactly make sense as scum though.

I'll be back in a few after I get drinks. Every other time you guys have hammered me before I got back. =.=

Pesco · « **Reply #607 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:43:17 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on October 12, 2011, 08:09:18 PM

What do you think of how Hero hasn't actually been tunneling? He hasn't felt latched onto anyone.

Hero's been backing up his words and actions and he's scumhunting.

Quote from: BT on October 12, 2011, 08:20:01 PM

I was just demonstrating how you can easily build accusations like you did with little effort. PX was just a wild example. Also, what's your point?

I'm not afraid of anything whereas you're afraid of everything.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #608 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:58:00 PM »

Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (1): Pesco
Bardiche (0):
Omba (0):
Pesco (3): huh what, Omba, BT
Serela (1): Hero999
PX (1): Serela
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):
Shadoweh (3): Bardiche, Dormio, PX

Not Voting: Shadoweh, JOB

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. D2 ends in ~5 hours (watch countdown).

BT · « **Reply #609 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:59:29 PM »

I've literally spent the last 15 minutes trying to understand your logic. With no success.

Also, stance on PX vote: I don't think my opinion changed at all about him since last day. Which means, I'd still look for better options. Currently, there are better options. I also fear that a wrong lynch on PX will bring little to no progress.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #610 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:05:27 PM »

Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (1): Pesco
Bardiche (0):
Omba (0):
Pesco (3): huh what, Omba, BT
Serela (1): Hero999
PX (1): Serela
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):
Shadoweh (3): Bardiche, Dormio, PX

Not Voting: Shadoweh, JOB

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. D2 ends in ~4 hours (watch countdown).

Serela · « **Reply #611 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:09:44 PM »

COULD WE WORK TOWARDS A LYNCH PLEASE.

Seriously. Two people aren't even VOTING, no one has posted in the last hour, Hero's vote is on someone who has a 0% chance of getting lynched, these are things that need to be fixed.

I'm going to be here all day and I'm willing to vote Pesco. But I'd rather have the PX lynch, whom many people have shown support for.

Shadoweh/JOB/Hero and anyone wanting to switch to PX needs to get their vote thrown down somewhere if we don't want a randomlynch by Keine.

Bardiche · « **Reply #612 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:14:16 PM »

Here, back home, catching up.

What the fuck wagons are we supporting.

Bardiche · « **Reply #613 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:19:00 PM »

So we're still fucking divided? Jesus christ, guys. For once I agree with Serela, we cannot let Keine-tan decide. So, Pesco, Shadoweh or PX? WHO'RE WE GONNA VOTE?

Omba · « **Reply #614 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:22:23 PM »

I'll vote Pesco over Shadoweh and both over PX. Will most likely be here for deadline.

Pesco · « **Reply #615 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:23:03 PM »

##Unvote
##Vote Shadoweh

The only thing I don't like about a Shadoweh lynch is that she gets to be dead before me.

Pesco · « **Reply #616 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:24:08 PM »

Quote from: Omba on October 12, 2011, 10:22:23 PM

I'll vote Pesco over Shadoweh and both over PX. Will most likely be here for deadline.

The people who want a PX lynch should note this.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #617 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:33:30 PM »

Quote from: BT on October 12, 2011, 08:20:01 PM

Gahhh being cut a lot.I don't know if you've realized, but... it's currently 3-3. Assuming you and Pesco stay as prime lynch candidates, you re-lynch and Pesco goes back on your wagon, it's 4-4. Serela looks like a Pesco vote, JOB and PX look like a Shadoweh vote. Unless they've reread a bit and changed their minds, you're getting lynched.

I fail to see how my flip will aid Pesco in pushing a lynch against you, other then him being alive and proven to be pushing Yet Another Town Lynch.

I don't feel like a number of people today have presented or even considered other cases today. This day has been far too polarizing. Admittedly alot of that is my fault. I went to go find PX's posts from the only scum game he's been in. Suffice it to say I think he posts way too differently now for it to matter. >_>

Shadoweh is going to be here until day end. I'm not satisfied with what's going on. I feel like this has been a perfect day for two scum to duck and cover while the cannons fire. The people I look at with suspicion the most besides Pesco (Dormio, Hero) aren't even blips on the rest of the town's radar. They aren't blips on his radar either of course. I'm told honesty is a bad thing, but I think not questioning whether what you're doing is right is worse. In the end I still believe a Town Pesco would have been able to notice my sincerity and is above lynching for textbook reasons.

##Vote: Pesco

BT · « **Reply #618 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:41:01 PM »

Your flip wouldn't aid a lynch on me, but if we go with either you or him (which is what's happening right now), this is what I predicted will happen.

And, oh look, it's already happening.

Anyway, like I said, a PX lynch isn't ideal. But, if we're forced to in order to stop a rand (aka, if JOB fails to vote or Hero fails to change vote), that's where my vote is going.

For this, I have to stay up till 4 am... ugh.

Hero999 · « **Reply #619 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:43:13 PM »

Quote from: BT on October 12, 2011, 08:53:27 AM

Omba is town. NO scum would EVER first get such secure town reads, then knowingly throw it all away with a move like that. Unless, of course, Omba and Shadoweh are scum, which I really don't think is the case, especially after Omba finally decided to change his vote from HW to her.Please please don't make this assumption. There's plenty of chance that PX was town as well, making it easy for scum to be on either wagon as long as one of them succeeds (and that did happen).

Reading this over again, I noticed the words NO scum would EVER. The assumption of scum never doing something is bad.

I also need to ask what Serela did that made him go from vigbait to an uninteresting person.

...

I refuse to vote Pesco, and I give Shadoweh the benefit of doubt...
Screw you all I want my random lynch.

Pesco · « **Reply #620 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:44:22 PM »

You're already voting the biggest wagons. What have you got left undone?

Bardiche · « **Reply #621 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:52:01 PM »

Quote

Screw you all I want my random lynch.

How the fuck would this be town-motivated?

Pesco · « **Reply #622 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:56:54 PM »

Even if you think wanting a random lynch is anti-town, it's TownHero to me. The fact that he doesn't care about what anyone else wants.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #623 on:** October 12, 2011, 10:58:29 PM »

Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (0):
Bardiche (0):
Omba (0):
Pesco (4): huh what, Omba, BT, Shadoweh
Serela (1): Hero999
PX (1): Serela
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):
Shadoweh (4): Bardiche, Dormio, PX, Pesco

Not Voting: JOB

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. D2 ends in ~3 hours (watch countdown).

Pesco is at L-2
Shadoweh is at L-2

Bardiche · « **Reply #624 on:** October 12, 2011, 11:18:41 PM »

Quote from: Pesco on October 12, 2011, 10:56:54 PM

Even if you think wanting a random lynch is anti-town, it's TownHero to me. The fact that he doesn't care about what anyone else wants.

So he's just a horrible player as far as you care. :derp:

Kitten4u · « **Reply #625 on:** October 12, 2011, 11:55:33 PM »

Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (0):
Bardiche (0):
Omba (0):
Pesco (4): huh what, Omba, BT, Shadoweh
Serela (1): Hero999
PX (1): Serela
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):
Shadoweh (4): Bardiche, Dormio, PX, Pesco

Not Voting: JOB

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. D2 ends in ~2 hours (watch countdown).

Pesco is at L-2
Shadoweh is at L-2

Serela · « **Reply #626 on:** October 13, 2011, 12:12:32 AM »

K so a PX lynch pretty much isn't happening, then. On to a Pesco lynch!

##Unvote ##Vote Pesco

Shadoweh · « **Reply #627 on:** October 13, 2011, 12:20:12 AM »

Kiitan has more posts then some people today. -.-
JOB where the hell are you. I didn't reread why you decided I'm scummier now, but I assume someone said something and you called it genius and sheeped to them. It better not have been Bardiche since his case hasn't changed in 70 hours.

Rereading. Yeah, I remember why Hero is town now. I can understand the random lynch sentiment. Laisir can't do worse then it seems we are. If he thinks we're both town, lynching a random other person wouldn't be as bad as lynching one of us. (It is, but not from that perspective.) If he's not going to switch though and JOB forgot why I'm town, someone else needs to switch.

Pesco, if you're town don't you dare hammer yourself. If you're scum go ahead and hammer yourself!

Bardiche · « **Reply #628 on:** October 13, 2011, 12:24:48 AM »

Lol @ Shadoweh blatant lies. I didn't make my Shadoweh case 2 hours into Day 2, missy. The latest revision was when you were going LOOK AT ME I'M SO SAD RAGE to get people to pity you. Well, seems to have worked. Congrats.

Omba · « **Reply #629 on:** October 13, 2011, 12:34:38 AM »

##Unvote
##Vote Shadoweh

I don't think I've ever bounced reads around this much before. :colonveeplusalpha: