Author Topic: Touhou Labyrinth discussion thread (Read 319469 times)

Milkyway64 · « **Reply #480 on:** December 19, 2009, 12:23:25 AM »

Floor 19 for the WIN. Passively leveling for a half hour yeilded at least four levels for my active part and 2-3 for every one else, and I noticed that I had just accumulated 1 million skill points to go nuts with.

<3

Ghaleon · « **Reply #481 on:** December 19, 2009, 01:28:28 AM »

Quote from: Milkyway64 on December 19, 2009, 12:23:25 AM

Floor 19 for the WIN. Passively leveling for a half hour yeilded at least four levels for my active part and 2-3 for every one else, and I noticed that I had just accumulated 1 million skill points to go nuts with.

<3

Check out floor 20. The enemies are tough, but the exp is triple+...and the skillpoints, oh god the skillpoints.

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #482 on:** December 19, 2009, 01:58:53 AM »

Quote from: Krim on December 18, 2009, 01:21:45 PM

If I understand correctly, it's dependent on which character has the most "battle points."

I know what it does, the fact Chen is the one is what surprised me because I've been using my tanks a lot more (though I've been trying to use Chen a lot more lately since her Phoenix Wing Spread can one-shot at least one entire enemy party on Floor 7, where I'm grinding right now...).

Anyway, I put Remilia on the bench because Gungnir isn't cutting it for offense while Youmu now has enough SP for using her 88 SP moves twice before needing a bench, as well as decent tanking ability. I don't really like how Sakuya has been performing, so Not-So-Bitch from the 6th floor is taking her place.

Also... Anyone know who

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is parodying during her boss fight? Its quite clear with the face she's referancing something, but the game is making so many game/anime referances I can't possibly keep track of them all. ~~Also I feel guilty I only had to fight her twice before beating her while most here complained she was too hard for a number of posts...~~

Chaore · « **Reply #483 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:06:49 AM »

I don't know, But I do know that is the best battle sprite in the god damn game and I've yet to be proven wrong.

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #484 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:08:12 AM »

Quote from: Chaore on December 19, 2009, 02:06:49 AM

I don't know, But I do know that is the best battle sprite in the god damn game and I've yet to be proven wrong.

Why doesn't she keep it compared to her ugly standard portrait? T.T

Chaore · « **Reply #485 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:11:30 AM »

Very, very, very poor designing. Honestly the Battle sprites are better than all of the 'portraits'. And while some of the portraits are okay, others are just plain horrible. Alice is far from the most prominent in this regard.

I feel like there were two different people working on the art, the sucky one just got the better job.

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #486 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:16:19 AM »

While I do agree most could be a lot better, I will admit some of the character portrats are pretty good. Marisa and Reimu are still good, for example, and the fact Chen managed to get so much use to make it onto my save screen, even after I got Aya, says a lot since I usually can't stand Chen. ~~Hopefully Orin will also be awesome.~~

RainfallYoshi · « **Reply #487 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:26:33 AM »

I actually find most of the character portraits to be okay.

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does look incredibly butch though... and I wish Meiling didn't look so depressing. I'm fond of most of the others though... they have their quirky little charms.

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makes me gag though. Her battle sprite is so good and then she gets such an awful portrait. Saaaad.

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #488 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:32:13 AM »

I'm told aquabitch is a random encounter on floor 7. Since I'm grinding there's a chance I'll run into her (not to mention I probably have to in order to recruit her later), so any advice for taking her down, since I'll have like no time to prepare?

RainfallYoshi · « **Reply #489 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:34:08 AM »

You shouldn't have much to worry about for her, her random encounters have pretty low HP so as long as you go all-out offensive on her she can't do much to you.

I'm pretty sure she's weaker in her random encounter forms too...

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #490 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:39:17 AM »

I guess in that case I'll just contine my scheduled grinding... Whats the reccomended level for the actual floor 7 boss?

I already know about the flame attack, so I'm working myself up some fire defenses since if memory serves he sticks to a specific pattern (so I just need to tank the first blow, swap in some damage dealers, smack him around, then prepare for the next wave).

RainfallYoshi · « **Reply #491 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:50:47 AM »

I forget what level I was for that fight, but if you go in with strong defenses for the opening wave and hit him hard and fast, it shouldn't be too horrible of a fight.

Also, hey look I found a Touhou Labyrinth OST download!
http://www.mediafire.com/?ntmo5nin1xz

Ghaleon · « **Reply #492 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:54:51 AM »

I rather like some of the portraits. Sakuya's is my fave, remi has a nice face in game too. Not sure if I like the rest of her dialog portrait though, it's not bad I guess. Marisa looks like she has a basketball taped to her butt >=P. I thought Alice's battle sprite looks really effing stupid >=P. Not sure why Yukari looks like a pornstar though.

There's definately less loli to most of the characters in this game than your typical Touhou game though, kinda looking forward to seeing how Kanako turns out.

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I forget what level I was for that fight, but if you go in with strong defenses for the opening wave and hit him hard and fast, it shouldn't be too horrible of a fight.

Also, hey look I found a Touhou Labyrinth OST download!
http://www.mediafire.com/?ntmo5nin1xz

NICE, I rather like some of the tracks.

I wouldn't worry about stage 7 boss strat. Basically. if you don't get insta-owned by the fire attack, you win. It's really all there is to those kinds of bosses (by those kinds, I mean the 3 that have the same graphic, yes there are 3...Maybe more post game too, dunno).

I think I've done most of the mk 2 bosses now. Just need 2 or 3 more I think. They don't make them equal, that's for sure.

Milkyway64 · « **Reply #493 on:** December 19, 2009, 02:58:21 AM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on December 19, 2009, 01:28:28 AM

Check out floor 20. The enemies are tough, but the exp is triple+...and the skillpoints, oh god the skillpoints.

Yeah. It takes me ages to beat all but the Diamond Knight and Executioner, though, if I can AT ALL. 19 is the fastest way right now, as I can 1-round the majority of the encounters.

Quote from: Ghaleon on December 19, 2009, 02:54:51 AM

I rather like some of the portraits. Sakuya's is my fave, remi has a nice face in game too. Not sure if I like the rest of her dialog portrait though, it's not bad I guess. Marisa looks like she has a basketball taped to her butt >=P. I thought Alice's battle sprite looks really effing stupid >=P. Not sure why Yukari looks like a pornstar though.

Indeed, but OH MY GAWD WHERE IS SAKUYA AND MINORIKO'S NOSE?!

Ghaleon · « **Reply #494 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:02:25 AM »

Quote from: Milkyway64 on December 19, 2009, 02:58:21 AM

Yeah. It takes me ages to beat all but the Diamond Knight and Executioner, though, if I can AT ALL. 19 is the fastest way right now, as I can 1-round the majority of the encounters.

Indeed, but OH MY GAWD WHERE IS SAKUYA AND MINORIKO'S NOSE?!

Is Sakuya missing a nose? lol I haven't noticed, that's odd because her face looked good to me (the hair and eyes are great)

Floor 20 enemies do indeed take questionably long to kill per exp at first, but you also have to factor in time spent running around waiting for your encounter thingie to go from 0.0% to whatever it takes to get a monster. In addition, the skillpoints are even more disproportionately uber. Oh, and if you get loot....

Update: Checked for noses, yeah they lack a nose. But so does hong and Cirno. Possibly chen too. I mean it could be hiding behind that 1 strand of hair but...

That's alot of noseless people. I guess I just subconsciously didn't notice since it's somewhat normal in this game >=P

trancehime · « **Reply #495 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:12:12 AM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on December 18, 2009, 08:59:14 AM

Sorry, I mean the 4 yukari-barriers, where each one needs 1 more star than the last. Do they do anything at all before you get all 4? Or is all 4 needed? I figure something happens when you unlock them one at a time since they could have easily just put 1 of them there needing 5 stars if not >=P.

5th floor bloodstained seal guardian is also drop-dead easy. 9th floor one wasn't as easy, but not hard. I think that's all of them so far minus the one on the 20th floor, which I don't really feel like doing atm since all my casters do 0 damage to it. Not sure if it's supposed to be doable by level 160ish or not. (it buffs itself with 100% mag though right at the start, scary).

BTW the 9th floor seal guardian and the 20th one. I recognize them, but I don't know wtf floor 1 and 5 are from, anybody know?

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Floor 20 enemies do indeed take questionably long to kill per exp at first, but you also have to factor in time spent running around waiting for your encounter thingie to go from 0.0% to whatever it takes to get a monster. In addition, the skillpoints are even more disproportionately uber. Oh, and if you get loot....

Floor 30 enemies give about 10x more EXP than Floor 20 enemies. But they also take 10 times longer. The skillpoint gain is godlike though \o/

Following are spoilers on the 30F bosses;

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AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #496 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:29:12 AM »

I'm saddened Green Bitch on floor 6 did not join. Out of curiosity, when does she change her mind?

Milkyway64 · « **Reply #497 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:44:56 AM »

Quote from: AlexX on December 19, 2009, 03:29:12 AM

I'm saddened Green Bitch on floor 6 did not join. Out of curiosity, when does she change her mind?

If you mean who I think you do, then when you have 20 members.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #498 on:** December 19, 2009, 04:03:42 AM »

Quote from: Milkyway64 on December 19, 2009, 03:44:56 AM

If you mean who I think you do, then when you have 20 members.

Isn't that floor 8?

Not really just when you have 20 people. When you ahve 20 people and level up about 500 levels so you don't get OHKo'd, ok slight exageration.

st elmo's fire (no need to spoiler) isn't the 2nd bloodstained guardian boss. It was some kinda weird goofy robot with a propeller head.

Serela · « **Reply #499 on:** December 19, 2009, 04:07:51 AM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on December 19, 2009, 04:03:42 AM

Not really just when you have 20 people. When you ahve 20 people and level up about 500 levels so you don't get OHKo'd, ok slight exageration.

Around when you get 10F optional you'll probably be ready.

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #500 on:** December 19, 2009, 04:20:19 AM »

Alright, I think something is wrong... According to the first page I need events with Cirno from floors 2-8 and will fight a boss on the last one for a character I can probably guess the name of.

I have done that, but the event at the 8th floor triggered no boss fight, so I'm sorta lost... I rechecked the floors to see if I missed one, but I could not find any event markers that weren't already accounted for.

Serela · « **Reply #501 on:** December 19, 2009, 04:22:10 AM »

Quote from: AlexX on December 19, 2009, 04:20:19 AM

Alright, I think something is wrong... According to the first page I need events with Cirno from floors 2-8 and will fight a boss on the last one.

I have done that, but the event at the 8th floor triggered no boss fight, so I'm sorta lost...

There are 3 of that event on 8F. Make sure you don't trigger all 3 though, since you likely will not be able to beat her until you do 1 or 2 more floors.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #502 on:** December 19, 2009, 05:23:34 AM »

Quote from: NeoSerela on December 19, 2009, 04:22:10 AM

There are 3 of that event on 8F. Make sure you don't trigger all 3 though, since you likely will not be able to beat her until you do 1 or 2 more floors.

Eh? She's pretty easy IMO. Just make sure you have someone who can cure poisen (hong will do), and don't be out of tp/sp before the fight.

She has a crapload of hp, but her damage output is pretty bad...when you fight her I mean.

EEK, just got my 4th star. floor 20 bloodstained seal for 5 gogo.

Pesco · « **Reply #503 on:** December 19, 2009, 05:50:37 AM »

Bumrushed my way to 15F waypoint earlier. I'm not even properly leveled to do 14F yet.

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #504 on:** December 19, 2009, 05:53:11 AM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on December 19, 2009, 05:23:34 AM

She has a crapload of hp, but her damage output is pretty bad...when you fight her I mean.

1500 damage to the whole party is "pretty bad"? >.>

I guess I'll just keep moving forward and come back after some levelling. Once I get the event with Rumia on the 9th floor, could I drop her and be just fine? I'd really rather use her party slot on someone else...

Pesco · « **Reply #505 on:** December 19, 2009, 05:58:07 AM »

Dropping Rumia is fine since Marisa deals more damage generally. You'll still need Rumia once in a while for her MND piercing.

AlexX Unlimited · « **Reply #506 on:** December 19, 2009, 06:02:38 AM »

Quote from: Pesco on December 19, 2009, 05:58:07 AM

Dropping Rumia is fine since Marisa deals more damage generally. You'll still need Rumia once in a while for her MND piercing.

Doesn't Silent Selene and Asteroid Belt also negate MDef?

I figure between them and my PDef negators I should be more or less set.

Deranged · « **Reply #507 on:** December 19, 2009, 06:07:14 AM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on December 19, 2009, 04:03:42 AM

st elmo's fire (no need to spoiler) isn't the 2nd bloodstained guardian boss. It was some kinda weird goofy robot with a propeller head.

(Almost) all the bloodstained seal bosses are from CAVE shooters. The one you're talking about is from Pink Sweets ~Ibara sore kara~.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm445007

Gameplay video of it. It'll also show you why the boss... attacks as it does.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #508 on:** December 19, 2009, 06:07:32 AM »

Quote from: AlexX on December 19, 2009, 06:02:38 AM

Doesn't Silent Selene and Asteroid Belt also negate MDef?

I figure between them and my PDef negators I should be more or less set.

Dark side of the moon ignores mnd completely. Asteroid belt doesn't. Neither does silent selene. Alas, patchy's magic combined with silent selene is so damn strong it sure seems like they have no mnd >=P.

I almost got the final bloodstained seal boss back on floor 1. Except after I beat the magic immune one, the other one proceeded to spam needle parade over and over and over..Which is basically the "1shots casters" move. so I had no chance. Was pretty stupidly frusterating actually.

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(Almost) all the bloodstained seal bosses are from CAVE shooters. The one you're talking about is from Pink Sweets ~Ibara sore kara~.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm445007

Gameplay video of it. It'll also show you why the boss... attacks as it does.

Thanks, now I can sleep >=P

Pesco · « **Reply #509 on:** December 19, 2009, 06:17:15 AM »

All the in-game references and stuff is in a txt file with the English patch. Of course spoilers.