Puzzle & Dragons 14 - Double the stamina, double the fun

[OverlordChirei]

No one in my current list of friends is running Kali. Sadness

I would if I had her ;;

Also dang you got yours up hella fast

[trancehime]

i am now the proud owner of a gzl, now  with 2 TPA!

tested amaterasu's new uvo, it's legit!

[Yukarin]

I would if I had her ;;

Also dang you got yours up hella fast

(blame king carnival and supers)

really the only thing i need now is 5 tamas to fully awaken her

the tama drought is real

[Espadas]

Quick update about the Player Choice poll running right now.....

.... do i really have to write the names? Everyone and their grandma already know the "guaranteed top 10".....

LKali and Ronia destroyed everyone else, then we have DKali, Yomi and Haku 

a bit lower the only one i find mildly unexpected is Apollo in 19th position

[Mr. Sacchi]

I like how everyone is like "Hey we got our own teams and we're destroying descends and dealing big numbers." and I'm here in scrubland with my LMeta and my Horus and my (dying) Monored :fail:

Granted though, my LMeta team isn't even close to finished since valk is stil in her first form :colonveeplusalpha:

Also, Hera-Is Legend on a LMeta team, how stupid does that sound?

[commandercool]

Quick update about the Player Choice poll running right now.....

.... do i really have to write the names? Everyone and their grandma already know the "guaranteed top 10".....

LKali and Ronia destroyed everyone else, then we have DKali, Yomi and Haku 

a bit lower the only one i find mildly unexpected is Apollo in 19th position

Hmm, yeah. Apollo is definitely solid, so I can see why he's popular, but he's higher up than I would have expected.

Other things of interest:

Apocalypse is much farther down than I would have expected.

Green Guan Yu is not only the least popular special god, but the least popular thing of any kind (tied with a couple others at the time of writing this).

The archangels are surprisingly unpopular. I'm surprised any relatively skilluppable orbchanger ranks as low as Michael and Uriel do.

Leilan is the least popular Chinese.

New evolutions seem to have had surprisingly little impact on the results. I expected to see Kagutsuchi very high on the list, and things like Neptune and Ceres are quite low as well.

LZL actually ranks higher than GZL.

[Bio]

People probably already have at least 3 Kagutsuchi sitting in their boxes.
LZL is also a great sub for Kali.

[hyorinryu]

Hmm, yeah. Apollo is definitely solid, so I can see why he's popular, but he's higher up than I would have expected.

Other things of interest:

Apocalypse is much farther down than I would have expected.

Green Guan Yu is not only the least popular special god, but the least popular thing of any kind (tied with a couple others at the time of writing this).

The archangels are surprisingly unpopular. I'm surprised any relatively skilluppable orbchanger ranks as low as Michael and Uriel do.

Leilan is the least popular Chinese.

New evolutions seem to have had surprisingly little impact on the results. I expected to see Kagutsuchi very high on the list, and things like Neptune and Ceres are quite low as well.

LZL actually ranks higher than GZL.

A lot of the stuff is new, and there's a lot of bandwagoning. No one uses Apoc, light dragons with rows aren't the easiest thing to get. Heck, light rows in general are hard to get. If he had a dark subtype and a dark row. I guarantee he'd be a lot higher.  I see more Perseus than Wukong. As for archangels, people don't like grinding for the most part, and a lot of them would rather have the ninja instead. As for Leilan, I can't think of too many popular team that she would sub in. Karin can play with physical people like Blue Sonia.  Not shocked at the people not caring about new ults though. NA is way more casual than JP I think. LZL being more wanted than GZL is pretty surprising to me though. Can't explain that. Maybe people really like the the though 20.25x multiplier coming up idk.

[Suikama]

at least people aren't voting for neptune again rofl

[hyorinryu]

at least people aren't voting for neptune again rofl

I think I should for old times sake.

[commandercool]

Looks like Sun Quan can use his active when there's already an enhance up, but you only get the delay. His healer enhance dies not seem to supercede I&I's water enhance. Interesting.

Got two babbyTams out of eight Gold/Metal Outbreak runs, which is pretty bad but I did get awakeningss off of both of them, so that's pretty good. And I got a lot of high metal dragons and a few kings in the process, so even better. Saved one of the babbies I already had and enough materials to guaranteed fully awaken Sun Quan next time I can get my hands on a Dub-Topalit. And since I got the important awakenings out of the way I'll probably be trying Sandalphon once before I go to bed tonight, given that it did stymie me so hard weeks and weeks ago when I first tried it.

I like how everyone is like "Hey we got our own teams and we're destroying descends and dealing big numbers." and I'm here in scrubland with my LMeta and my Horus and my (dying) Monored :fail:

Granted though, my LMeta team isn't even close to finished since valk is stil in her first form :colonveeplusalpha:

Also, Hera-Is Legend on a LMeta team, how stupid does that sound?

Hey, LMeta is a legit team, especially with her buffs incoming.

Descends don't get much more optimal matchups than Hera-Is with an LMeta team. Damn.

[OverlordChirei]

Leilan is the least popular Chinese.

NA is full of scrubs so I'm not surprised

But yeah, lots of bandwagoning because it looks similar to last PCGF, with the addition of Kalis. I am not sure why Shiva is up here this time though. I was getting told that he's being phased out.

[commandercool]

A lot of the stuff is new, and there's a lot of bandwagoning. No one uses Apoc, light dragons with rows aren't the easiest thing to get. Heck, light rows in general are hard to get. If he had a dark subtype and a dark row. I guarantee he'd be a lot higher.  I see more Perseus than Wukong. As for archangels, people don't like grinding for the most part, and a lot of them would rather have the ninja instead. As for Leilan, I can't think of too many popular team that she would sub in. Karin can play with physical people like Blue Sonia.  Not shocked at the people not caring about new ults though. NA is way more casual than JP I think. LZL being more wanted than GZL is pretty surprising to me though. Can't explain that. Maybe people really like the the though 20.25x multiplier coming up idk.

I don't expect people want the archangels as leaders for the most part (although they are amazing leaders), but the RGB ones at least are such solid subs that it seems weird to not see them higher. A farmable double orbchange with a row and a skillboost is rock solid, not to mention the handy subtypes (and in the case of Uriel and Michael, phenomenal recovery given those subtypes) and incoming skill bind resist.

I understand why Apocalypse shouldn't be higher, but I'm surprised he didn't get more "OMFG DRAGON SPECIAL GOD WUT" votes. Or just general cool-factor votes, since he is a big 'ol robot dragon. I guess people really are burned out on the overall badness of dragons or I'd figure a possible great dragon leader, even if he doesn't have subs yet, would have more fans.

[hyorinryu]

NA is full of scrubs so I'm not surprised

But yeah, lots of bandwagoning because it looks similar to last PCGF, with the addition of Kalis. I am not sure why Shiva is up here this time though. I was getting told that he's being phased out.

Tbf, I only see Shivas on Thursdays. Then again, it might be because he's a decent Sonia sub. Sonia's so dumb that anything that plays well with it shoots up several ranks higher than it would be without Sonia.

[Chaore]

NA is full of scrubs so I'm not surprised

But yeah, lots of bandwagoning because it looks similar to last PCGF, with the addition of Kalis. I am not sure why Shiva is up here this time though. I was getting told that he's being phased out.

If this was me sometime before enhance orbs-

Nevermind, he and Lakshi got huge boosts from what happened to those.

I still feel like he's not as good but with Ronia and a strawberry dragon he'll get silly easily again.

Also when has NA ever kept up to date.

[OverlordChirei]

I actually have no idea what shiva rowteam damage is like, so I can't really base anything on that front, but I do have an idea of what orb consumption is like just in passing and it makes me cry inside ;;

Also I didn't see Apocalyse the first time, so I took another look. Goddamn he is not that popular for some reason. A shame because despite being a redo of Valhalla, I think he's pretty strong. Cooldown is notably longer than a 7star though so that might be unappealing to a lot of people.

[hyorinryu]

I actually have no idea what shiva rowteam damage is like, so I can't really base anything on that front, but I do have an idea of what orb consumption is like just in passing and it makes me cry inside ;;

Also I didn't see Apocalyse the first time, so I took another look. Goddamn he is not that popular for some reason. A shame because despite being a redo of Valhalla, I think he's pretty strong. Cooldown is notably longer than a 7star though so that might be unappealing to a lot of people.

Biggest reason is probably because it's hard to find subs for his team, and he not monstrously stupid to justify the difficulty like Dmeta and BSonia. He only leads dragons, and a lot of the dragons you'd want (Arthur, Indra?, etc.) require the REM. He also has trouble finding a niche as a sub because for the most part, it's difficult to make Light row teams compared to most of the other colors.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Apocalypse as a sub only really works in sopdet teams and even then I find it a bit of a stretch.

How fitting that the only actual dragon special god is among the most useless. Puzzles & Anything But Dragons, everybody.

[commandercool]

Looks like the next event is up.

*The Bounty of Harvests Event Part 1*
[Duration]: 11/22 (Sat), 12:00 AM - 11/27 (Thu), 11:59 PM (PST)

With the changing of the seasons, a subtle longing for home is carried on the wind. And when we travel home, we take stock of all that we?ve been blessed with.

Let?s give thanks for the Puzzle & Dragons family--there?s 150 thousand of you on Facebook alone! Happy Thanksgiving to you all.

■① Daily Login Bonuses
11/22 - 11/27 - 1 free Magic Stone
*Bonuses will be distributed as late as 3:59 AM (PST) the following day.

■② A Feast Spread on the Table
The Extreme Rush events have all kinds of variety! Their difficulty makes for a spectacular smorgasbord of monster challenges.

11/22 - 11/23 - Extreme Hera Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear!*
11/25 - 11/26 - Extreme God Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear!*

■③ The Pilgrimage
The TAMADRAs have traveled far to come to this special event! We?ve included a special gift dungeon for you to greet them once again.

11/22 - 11/27 - TAMADRA Surprise (Can only run once!)

■④ Special Event Dungeon Schedule
The Spirit Jewels are active from 11/22 to 12/1!
See here for details: http://on.fb.me/1swdWlb

11/22 - Izanami Descended!
11/23 - Zeus-Dios Descended!
11/24 - Hera-Beorc Descended!
11/24 - Draggie!
11/25 - Satan Descended!
11/26 - Hera-Sowilo Descended!
11/27 - Mephisto Descended!
11/27 - Tengu!!!

■⑤ Awesome Daily Bonuses
Pal Egg Event:
11/22 - 11/27 - Rare Evo Materials

Dungeon Bonus:
2x King appearance rates for the Metal and Jewel Dragons
Fusion Bonus:
2x chance for 'GREAT!' or 'SUPER!!' EXP Gain
2x Skill Up rate
Drop Bonus:
2x Drops for the Daily Special Dungeons
1.5x Coins for the Weekend Dungeon





Slightly sad to see no gift Tamadras (maybe the second half), but we do get whatever "Tamadra Surprise" is. I assume it's some kind of horrifying sex act, based on the name. Maybe a gift dungeon for OdinTamas? Or is this something that already exists and I just haven't heard of it?

Also, slightly sad to see that the coin dungeon seems to be 1.5x, not 2x. I was hoping the 2x thing was here to stay. Oh well.

[The Greatest Dog]

If Spirit Jewels are invading again, Karin is on Zeus-Dios...
well I suppose I really want my Beelzebub uvo'd. Bringing out Gabriel again.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Apocalypse as a sub only really works in sopdet teams and even then I find it a bit of a stretch.

How fitting that the only actual dragon special god is among the most useless. Puzzles & Anything But Dragons, everybody.

Oh please. It's getting really exhausting to see actual good things being written off as useless because of people not thinking outside the box.

Apocalypse is actually a solid sub. Sure, he's ideal on a Sopdet team, but do not forget that his skill can be paired with orb changers (specifically dark or light) to almost surely ensure the ability to make three solid rows of either. Or if you like solid boards to enhance, pop Apollo or Persephone. Let's not pull a Raphael again and forget that enhanced full boards are almost equivalent to a slime enhance-- and can even be STACKED with one. Or if you're running Meimei, throw in Cu Chulainn or Green Valk to make an improvised 7Star. Or throw him on an Athena team for easy double TPA stacking (and he himself has one!), as well as harness his excellent HP and make it even bigger due to HP buffs. Oh, and if he's on an Athena team, that 80% blindness resist is now 100%. Not that blindness is that big of a deal, but still. Hell, you could even pop this dude on an ult DMeta team for, once again, easy rows and good HP, which a DMeta team would always appreciate. He doesn't pack a dark row, but still, Ult DMeta is so insanely versatile that she doesn't even NEED to be solid dark anymore. 

And as far as a leader goes, do remember that dragons typically have crazy high HP and an Apocalypse team would multiply that by 2.25 with 9x attack. This dude is not bad or useless at all. (And he can totally stomp on Dragon exclusive conditional dungeons as well).

Apocalypse is one of the few dragons that can actually make dragons useful. If you wanna talk about useless we can talk about the countless trophy dragons the game throws at you with mediocre stats, pathetic leader skills, worse active skills, and even worse awakenings.

[commandercool]

Fuuuuck I took a shot at Sandalphon before bed, since it was the dungeon that showed me how terrible my old team was and inspired me to revamp it. I'd like to say that I closed the book on that era of the game for me and officially entered lategame by proving that I can handle mythical descends, but I botched my last combo against him and died with him having an invisibly tiny sliver of HP left. I blame the fact that I stayed up way later than I should have to get the stamina to try this.  :wat:

This did really highlight that I don't have a firm grasp on what my damage output is with Gabriel as my leader though. I panicked and swapped to Beyzul on Raphael just to make sure he died and I'm not sure if that was necessary. In retrospect the right thing to do may have been pop all of my actives except Beyzul to find out how hard I would hit, hoping it killed but learning what my damage output is if it didn't. Oh well.

[The Greatest Dog]

Beyzul stuff

I'm super-legit curious as to how comfortably you think Gabe and Beyzul/I&I can take on the endgame. I figure that 2/4/2 multipliers can handle things up until the boss or some other GTFO attack like Raphael.

I mean, if you had the option of investing in other team or placing +297s (and maybe a max skilled Beyzul) in this one, would you stay with this team?

[trancehime]

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/seiya2.html

Saint Seiya 2nd Collab.

Confirmed:
Gold Saint Sagittarius Seiya UVO
Bronze Saint Dragon Shiryu UVO

More to come, begins on 12/1 ~ 12/7

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141120_padbt.html

PADBT Collab Returns from 11/24 ~ 11/30

[hyorinryu]

Fuuuuck I took a shot at Sandalphon before bed, since it was the dungeon that showed me how terrible my old team was and inspired me to revamp it. I'd like to say that I closed the book on that era of the game for me and officially entered lategame by proving that I can handle mythical descends, but I botched my last combo against him and died with him having an invisibly tiny sliver of HP left. I blame the fact that I stayed up way later than I should have to get the stamina to try this.  :wat:

This did really highlight that I don't have a firm grasp on what my damage output is with Gabriel as my leader though. I panicked and swapped to Beyzul on Raphael just to make sure he died and I'm not sure if that was necessary. In retrospect the right thing to do may have been pop all of my actives except Beyzul to find out how hard I would hit, hoping it killed but learning what my damage output is if it didn't. Oh well.

I don't know the cooldown of your Beyzul, but I think maybe you switch to Beyzul, take shots at Raph till the last turn where you finish him off using your actives and then once you reach sandyphone, you can switch back to Gabby.

[Thaws]

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/seiya2.html

Saint Seiya 2nd Collab.

Confirmed:
Gold Saint Sagittarius Seiya UVO
Bronze Saint Dragon Shiryu UVO

More to come, begins on 12/1 ~ 12/7

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141120_padbt.html

PADBT Collab Returns from 11/24 ~ 11/30

Yesss Astaroth skillups without waffleman madness! I might actually get her to skillmax this time! 4 skill lvs to go...

I'm super-legit curious as to how comfortably you think Gabe and Beyzul/I&I can take on the endgame. I figure that 2/4/2 multipliers can handle things up until the boss or some other GTFO attack like Raphael.

I mean, if you had the option of investing in other team or placing +297s (and maybe a max skilled Beyzul) in this one, would you stay with this team?

I dunno about the potential of gabe/beyzul and you're not asking me, but
well, if he's placing it on Gabe and stuff, he can still use it if he rolls I&I and blue healers I&I can definitely take on most if not all mythicals. Might be tough to take on legend plus Rushes and higher-end challenge dungeon, which are the real end-game content nowadays as opposed to mythicals though... though I haven't really looked into Rush strats so I'm not sure about that either

[Invisible]

crap I'm late to the Athena party please don't leave me in the dust

Just need a light jewel to uvo her, and then I need to scrape up three more tamas somehow. Would rather not shell out 10m coins for the dungeon, but...

Everyone's using their Athena. Might as well.  :derp:

[trancehime]

[Tentative Duration]: 11/23 (Sun) 4:30 PM - 11:00 PM (PST)

As of 11/23 4:30 PM (PST), Puzzle & Dragons will be updating to version 7.2.2. During this time, you will not be able to access the game.

enjoy

[Espadas]

[Tentative Duration]: 11/23 (Sun) 4:30 PM - 11:00 PM (PST)

As of 11/23 4:30 PM (PST), Puzzle & Dragons will be updating to version 7.2.2. During this time, you will not be able to access the game.

Noob question: what does that bring to NA?  :blush:

[OverlordChirei]

Noob question: what does that bring to NA?  :blush:

I am actually not sure myself, because our version updates sometimes =/= JP version updates exactly. Gonna poke around, but I'm gonna guess some balance patches at least.