Puzzle & Dragons 14 - Double the stamina, double the fun

[triangles]

I might even enter this 150k drawing competition for fun. What vaguely winter themed things should I draw

Spoiler:

other than I&I

THERE'S A COOKING CONTEST
BRB JOIN EFFORT WITH MJP WHO ACTUALLY CAN COOK
YESSSS

[commandercool]

Good:
Extreme metal guerilla dungeon: I was worried I might never see Valkyrie's new evolution. Not only will that not be a problem, but that seems like pretty good experience too.

Buffed pengdras: They're closer to worth it! Maybe actually worth it now!

Bad:
Thursday dungeon on x1 drops. I need baby Tama materials, and I'm one dragon flower and zero fruits in nine runs so far. Yikes. And tomorrow I have to do the same thing for Dub-Topalits...

[OverlordChirei]

Bad:
Thursday dungeon on x1 drops. I need baby Tama materials, and I'm one dragon flower and zero fruits in nine runs so far. Yikes. And tomorrow I have to do the same thing for Dub-Topalits...

Dub-Topalits are absolute hell to farm. This is why I started just dumping the babies as they were, since my stamina could be better used on other things.

[Mr. Sacchi]

iirc Baby Tamas have a 50% chance of awakening, so I don't think hunting to evolve them is worth it unless you have horrible horrible luck.

[Invisible]

Oh my god.

This has changed PAD forever. PRINNY BUFFS!!!!!!!!! DOOD SUPREMACY AT LAST!!!!!!

Finally. The whole "Pengdra Cycle" can now be a valid legit thing.

[Edible]

iirc Baby Tamas have a 50% chance of awakening, so I don't think hunting to evolve them is worth it unless you have horrible horrible luck.

Yeah, I evolved the first few I got, but I kept getting so many from running dragon fruits over and over that I eventually just started feeding them as-is.

Hell of a lot better of a success rate than skillups...

[commandercool]

That's a fair point. Gold/metal outbreak doesn't have the best Tamadra droprate, so I probably won't be able to get enough to brute force awaken Sun Quan. If I can evolve a couple I might be able to finish the rest with eating babies though. And in general that's not a bad strategy, especially for Tamadra Village. I could just be patient, but I am not patient.

[Invisible]

RANK 200 in over 166 days.

I expected to be at Rank 200 at only around 150+ when the new stamina update came, but I was a lil' bit busy around that time, plus serious, in all honesty, I can't keep up with the Double Stamina. :derp:

[Janitor Morgan]

crap I'm late to the Athena party please don't leave me in the dust

Just need a light jewel to uvo her, and then I need to scrape up three more tamas somehow. Would rather not shell out 10m coins for the dungeon, but...

[hyorinryu]

Just realized I'm short a few Tamas to awaken Genbu. Only skill lvl 1 too. Torn between feeding Genbu and Green Sonia.

[The Greatest Dog]

TPA makes it surprisingly easy to kill the Dragon Flower and Fruit without touching the baby TAMADRA. Huh.
I dig it. I almost fed my red fruit to Ronia before remembering 2x skill up rate isn't in effect currently.

[Edible]

TPA makes it surprisingly easy to kill the Dragon Flower and Fruit without touching the baby TAMADRA. Huh.
I dig it. I almost fed my red fruit to Ronia before remembering 2x skill up rate isn't in effect currently.

You'll want to save your red fruits for the ult evo anyway, which we should be getting... soon-ish?

[The Greatest Dog]

You'll want to save your red fruits for the ult evo anyway, which we should be getting... soon-ish?

but I like to have fun I don't intend on actually using Sonia :V

All joking aside, I don't dig her that much.

[Edible]

YOU SAY THAT NOW

BUT SOON, SOON YOU WILL SUCCUMB

YOU WILL SUCCUMB TO THE LARGE HP POOL OF DEVILS, AND THE EXTREMELY POTENT 2.5x ATK/RCV, COMBINED WITH NIGH-UNSTOPPABLE ROW DAMAGE FROM HER ACTIVE

AND THEN YOU'LL START STALLING OUT EVERY DUNGEON IN THE GAME AND YOU'LL BE LIKE "WOW WAS THIS GAME ALWAYS SO EASY" AND IT WASN'T, IT'S EASY BECAUSE YOU'RE USING A RONIA TEAM

hrhrrhgghblghgh

[The Greatest Dog]

I think I would rather roll with 8/6.25/1 uvo Beelzebub than 1/6.25⑨6.25 uvo Ronias.

Who needs RCV when you can start with Archangel Lucifer amounts of HP and yolo it from there?

All kidding aside, I don't think I like the idea of having nearly infinite RCV to heal from any hit. My orb matching is already bad enough as is, and I don't want to get lazy with only needing one heart match to fully heal.

[Espadas]

I'm not ashamed to admit i'm LOOKING FORWARD to the day i can field a Ronia team worthy of its name and curbstomp what were previously hard obstacles  :V

[commandercool]

Fuck Ronia.

Remember back when you guys originally helped me revise my team and I was trying to figure out if there was any single category in which Ronia didn't massively outclass my team? I have one now. The Gabriel version of blue healers has close to 50k HP and retains the ability to one-shot most things that exist. It may be tricky and dangerous to burst with and it may struggle horribly with consecutive bosses, but I can finally do something better than fucking Ronia.

Poor Valkyrie's version of the team is still ultra-megatrash compared to her, but hopefully her new evolution will fix that.

[hyorinryu]

I can't hate Red Sonia. I have a Green Sonia, I and intend to faceroll everything I can with her. Both as a sub and a lead.

Fuck Ronia.

Remember back when you guys originally helped me revise my team and I was trying to figure out if there was any single category in which Ronia didn't massively outclass my team? I have one now. The Gabriel version of blue healers has close to 50k HP and retains the ability to one-shot most things that exist. It may be tricky and dangerous to burst with and it may struggle horribly with consecutive bosses, but I can finally do something better than fucking Ronia.

Poor Valkyrie's version of the team is still ultra-megatrash compared to her, but hopefully her new evolution will fix that.

I just rolled a Gabby and just needs 5 more levels to evolve, maybe I'll try something like that too.

[Edible]

Yeah, the only thing ronia can't do is have a metric shitton of HP.  She can still generally have enough to soak some big hits, but it's definitely nowhere even close to approaching 30k HP unless you've got a million plus eggs.

She still has more HP than my healer team though.  And has better RCV, and better attack, and better burst...

[commandercool]

I just rolled a Gabby and just needs 5 more levels to evolve, maybe I'll try something like that too.

Join me! Join me in Gabrielland! Do you have enough blue healers to do the team that way? I think there's probably a fairly solid pseudo-Lucifer version of the team out there as well, especially if you have Metatron.

Edit: Said Satan, meant Lucifer.

[The Greatest Dog]

I'm also seconding Gabrielland being a super fun land.

If you run with Lakshmi in the partner slot you get a whole slew of viable stuff rather than just Blue Healers that you can use with I&I as a partner lead.
Wadatsumi provides a nifty delay that you can definitely stall for with 2/4/2. Noah + Blue Mystic Dragon provides a x15 on the spot, or Beyzul gives a row and x12. Siegfried provides a bunch of HP to use as well. Hera-Is is always available as a gravity, and who knows what her ultimate evolution will bring to the table as a sub.

Doesn't RoniaxLu Bu usually get a metric ton of HP as well?

[commandercool]

I don't think I knew about that Lakshmi uvo. Should have assumed, since that does seem to be how Indias work.

I like the Folklore+Noah thing. Unless you forego a lot of awakenings you only get one turn of burst damage, but Folklore's extremely low cooldown lets you swap back much faster if you don't kill.

[Suikama]

Need HP? Just take your Ronias and put them on an Awoken Minerva team for an effective 4/6.25/4

[OverlordChirei]

Ronia is too mainstream and I am not worthy enough to team up with Gabe yet.

I am just going to firmly sit here in Leilan land with Matsy where the orbscrews never happen and the utility is everywhere :foldarms:

[Espadas]

I'll probably try to build Blue Healers in the future.... but i miss Gabriel himself and BValk :derp:


on a different note, since i need truckloads of tamadras (like almost everyone else i reckon  :V) i have to ask: apart from Tamadra Village what is the best way to rack them up? Gold/Metal Outbreak?

Hunt for Metal Dragon seems more like a trap than an opportunity to land a Tamadra.....

[OverlordChirei]

I'll probably try to build Blue Healers in the future.... but i miss Gabriel himself and BValk :derp:


on a different note, since i need truckloads of tamadras (like almost everyone else i reckon  :V) i have to ask: apart from Tamadra Village what is the best way to rack them up? Gold/Metal Outbreak?

Hunt for Metal Dragon seems more like a trap than an opportunity to land a Tamadra.....

In order of reliability/frequency

1) Handouts
2) Mythical Materials & Fagan
3) Metal/Gold
4) PEM
5) Regular EXP dragons
6) dood village

[commandercool]

I'll probably try to build Blue Healers in the future.... but i miss Gabriel himself and BValk :derp:


on a different note, since i need truckloads of tamadras (like almost everyone else i reckon  :V) i have to ask: apart from Tamadra Village what is the best way to rack them up? Gold/Metal Outbreak?

Hunt for Metal Dragon seems more like a trap than an opportunity to land a Tamadra.....

Gold/metal outbreak is about as good as you're gonna get for Tamadras all in one place outside of their village. The drop rate is slightly over one in three.

My roommate insists that running Pengdra Village whenever it appears is a good place to get a steady supply of Tamas and experience, but I don't think it's worth it.

Gift Tamas are a godsend when they happen, but we get them inconsistently.

The high-level material dungeons they appear in are great if you can do them.

[Edible]

If you're expressly farming for tamadras, don't even bother with anything else: farm 10 million gold, buy tamadra village, run with a friendly light metatron (For bind clear and bind immunity) and at least one lilith or darkseid to deal with the fifth floor, and dump all your stones on stamina refreshes.

[hyorinryu]

Join me! Join me in Gabrielland! Do you have enough blue healers to do the team that way? I think there's probably a fairly solid pseudo-Lucifer version of the team out there as well, especially if you have Metatron.

Edit: Said Satan, meant Lucifer.

Nope. Only healers outside of Gabby are Siren and Ruka.

I'm also seconding Gabrielland being a super fun land.

If you run with Lakshmi in the partner slot you get a whole slew of viable stuff rather than just Blue Healers that you can use with I&I as a partner lead.
Wadatsumi provides a nifty delay that you can definitely stall for with 2/4/2. Noah + Blue Mystic Dragon provides a x15 on the spot, or Beyzul gives a row and x12. Siegfried provides a bunch of HP to use as well. Hera-Is is always available as a gravity, and who knows what her ultimate evolution will bring to the table as a sub.

Doesn't RoniaxLu Bu usually get a metric ton of HP as well?

I was looking at Partnering I&I/Gabby with Blue Odin when those balance changes hit. Noah/Folklore's worth looking into, but that's two slots already. I'm going to need slots for orb changers too. Decisions, Decisions....

[Yukarin]

...I'll just stay here in Haku/Kirin land.

No one in my current list of friends is running Kali. Sadness