MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Game Over, Town Win

[OOO]

I roleclaim (orginally) Slaves, the legendary artist who can copy items for one night by drawing pictures of people like Kilga shooting jesus lasers from his eyes!  Night 0, I drew Eve L.Duehr, and her ability was to send a fake PM to anyone else through the mod (which I did not, since i saw no use for it).  Night 1, I drew Kilga but got roleblocked (sadly, in retrospect).  Night 2 I drew donut, and I can confirm his claim as completely true.  Sadly, nothing any different from what Purvis has claimed in the first place.

And no, I do not have the bat now. 

A quick explanation for not voting 'scum' yesterday is due to me believing that voting Violentia was the best option for that day (e.g more 'scummy' than everyone else due to lack of content).  Yes, I thought donut and Trance scum, but for reasons already stated I voted Violentia instead.  Would have hammered Drake for similar reasons if Purvis did not steal it.

Trance with that kind of 'make it up as you go' posting sequence doesn't really cut it for me.  I also severely doubt that there was actually an item with no powers if everyone is telling the truth (until Mode arrives), after all the flips and stuff, making his claim that he had an item with no power very hard to believe.  The way he changes his claim from bulletproof to police sounds rather odd too, and from what I see, it seems that there are a lot of holes in everyone's claims, making him obvious scum to me.  Mode needs to post before I go on any deeper with this role madness (it gives me a headache).

As for everyone else, Drake and Purvis seem to fit the bill of being townie the most.  Mode has even sketchier activity than me (from what I remember, he did not press his late day case on donut very strongly), and feels strange.  I would like to point out that Valentia had no way of knowing that his items could have been easily losable on D1 and thus him not using the dayvig on D1 may not be so townie after all if he's scum; interestingly though, Valentia's story fits both Trance's and everyone else's.  donut feels town due to the nature of his role, but I think things aren't as clear as they should with him... Whatever, I think Mode claiming first will give me something more to work on.  In the end for me, it's a cross between Valentia, Mode and donut as remaining scum.

[Ouja]

I roleclaim (orginally) Slaves, the legendary artist who can copy items for one night by drawing pictures of people like Kilga shooting jesus lasers from his eyes!  Night 0, I drew Eve L.Duehr, and her ability was to send a fake PM to anyone else through the mod (which I did not, since i saw no use for it).  Night 1, I drew Kilga but got roleblocked (sadly, in retrospect).  Night 2 I drew donut, and I can confirm his claim as completely true.  Sadly, nothing any different from what Purvis has claimed in the first place.

eh wot

Trance with that kind of 'make it up as you go' posting sequence doesn't really cut it for me.  <more bad stuff about Trance> making him obvious scum to me.

(...)

In the end for me, it's a cross between Valentia, Mode and donut as remaining scum.

wot wot

donut feels town due to the nature of his role, but I think things aren't as clear as they should with him...

rofl wot

[Sasword]

eh wot
wot wot
rofl wot

rofl rofl wot wot eh rofl

Can you provide a little bit more than highlighter and random words? This doesn't help anything.  :/


@Slabes

I roleclaim (orginally) Slaves, the legendary artist who can copy items for one night by drawing pictures of people like Kilga shooting jesus lasers from his eyes!  Night 0, I drew Eve L.Duehr, and her ability was to send a fake PM to anyone else through the mod (which I did not, since i saw no use for it).  Night 1, I drew Kilga but got roleblocked (sadly, in retrospect).  Night 2 I drew donut, and I can confirm his claim as completely true.  Sadly, nothing any different from what Purvis has claimed in the first place.

4 things:

1. Is this drawing ability you describe your rolepower or special item?
2. Can you fill in the blank and claim your other power/role? 
3. Did anything change regarding your rolepower or special item between N2 and today?

and the big thing on my mind, 4. When the heck did we ever get a N0? You're either flat out lying, had a special exception allowing you to use your power before the game started, or Neo flubbed and failed to inform me of such. >>;



@Violentia

My first role was to be a Role stealer, but the role itself was automatic and i had no control of it whatsoever. The role activated on N1 Where i stole the role as a drag commando.

In #258, you say that the role you received was ##copafeel. Is this and 'drag commando' referring to the same thing? Makes sense but I want to make sure I understand you correctly.

It's a safe assumption to make that this role was Trance's, given his predisposition for crossdressing. The role even has scum undertones, being the Rolecop version of the Prostitute! Final nail in the coffin, anyone? 



@Trance

Dammit, I forgot a few things in my defense post, but that's been torn apart. My Night 1 action was used to use my role power #copafeel on Pescohax to find out the exact power he had, and it turns out, he can swap items! Then I asked the mods whether or not you can swap roles with dead people, and it also turned out you can. So we may have another person running around with an item swapping power of Mindhax.

Are you seriously trying to to tell us that you used your #copafeel ability on a corpse?

Hell, I still leave open the possibility that you're telling the truth about the Mindhax ability. Two item-swapping abilities in the same game seems ridiculous, but I shouldn't put anything past Neo with what we've seen so far. When I think about it, I could see the setup including powerswitchers for town and scum alike to encourage chaotic movement of items. 

However, there are two possible reasons why you would know what that ability does.

1. Necrophiliac
2. Pesco was your scumbuddy

EVEN IF WE ASSUME that there was a mythical N0 that Slabes mentioned, your admission in #252 shows that you did not experience an item switcharoo before N1.  And we can assume that at least until this morning, ~*Mindhax*~ has been safely buried.

[Ouja]

rofl rofl wot wot eh rofl

That's aboot all you need to be Canadian, yes.  That and a penchant for reading quotes.

1) If Slaves inspects items, how did he get anything like what Purvis said?
2) If Trance is pretty much obvious scum, why is he missing from the scumlist?
3) If my role is only good for Town, why the generic suspicion?  I've made things more or less as clear as they're going to be.

[Ouja]

EBWOP:  "Penchant for reading quotes" referring to how these should have been at least kind of self-evident from reading the quotes.

[Ouja]

Tripleposting because

Night 0, I drew Eve L.Duehr, and her ability was to send a fake PM to anyone else through the mod (which I did not, since i saw no use for it).

Does this or does this not seem like a scum ability?  If so, why didn't you do anything to suggest that Eve may be scum on Day 1?

##Unvote: Trance
##Vote: Slaves

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UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Trance - Drake, Donut
Donut - Trance
Slaves - Donut

7 alive, 4 to lynch

[Den-O]

## e we

(No that doesn't do anything)

I am Mode! She's p. cool I think. She stalks people at night and doesn't afraid of anything.

Basically I have an invisibility clock cloak that lets me stalk someone at night, seeing what their action is and who they target.

Unfortunately, Wrathie's bomb exploded! Damn that blogger. Now I have this weird disabling gun thing. I guess I don't get to dig up dirt on people anymore? :<

[Kiva-la]

##Vote: TranceTheHime

Real post coming momentarily.

[Ouja]

I am Mode! She's p. cool I think. She stalks people at night and doesn't afraid of anything.

Basically I have an invisibility clock cloak that lets me stalk someone at night, seeing what their action is and who they target.

Unfortunately, Wrathie's bomb exploded! Damn that blogger. Now I have this weird disabling gun thing. I guess I don't get to dig up dirt on people anymore? :<

Somewhere along the way I think you broke the Border of Item and Role.  Clarify please.

[Kiva-la]

Right, so we've had everyone come out and claim something !bat. Except me, but I can confirm I also don't have it. Wanted to get my vote on Trance in the event that someone is being a sneaky scum and LYING about not having the bat, because I expect Drake and myself to be the top two scum vig candidates. If scum want to kill someone else, that's fine by me, because they'd either be removing someone from my suspect pool (I'm not 100% on Donut, as much as I do lean town) or they'd be killing Valentia. Suggest Drake leave his vote on Trance as well.

@Purvis:  As much as I don't like what Trance is doing, I don't think that that line of logic is sound.  While I agree that scum had to know what was going on with turning Drake into Gaggles, lynching notDrake wasn't burning a mislynch at all - the only thing it did was waste a day.  It would have been superior for scum to lynch me yesterday.  That goes back to why I said Trance wasn't scum before Drake came in.

A wasted day is still good for scum, and Drake was a much better vote target for them because he wasn't going to defend himself while you had spent the last many hours kicking and screaming. I am sure they would have liked to see you lynched yesterday (assuming you're town), but it would have taken a lot more effort.

I would like to point out that Valentia had no way of knowing that his items could have been easily losable on D1 and thus him not using the dayvig on D1 may not be so townie after all if he's scum

False: the item portion of my role PM made it very clear that my item was not permanently affixed to me. Not that I said easily losable anyway.

It's a safe assumption to make that this role was Trance's, given his predisposition for crossdressing. The role even has scum undertones, being the Rolecop version of the Prostitute! Final nail in the coffin, anyone? 

As much as I would like to hammer Trance home, the Role Stealer/Purveyor of Fine Leather Jackets is not an inherently scum role. The one game I played with it, it started with town.

I similarly was not aware of a Night 0.

[Den-O]

Somewhere along the way I think you broke the Border of Item and Role.  Clarify please.

How so? I'm Mode, my cloak let me stalk people in the past. Bomb blew up, it was given to someone else. My role is tied to my item, which is now the roleblock gun.

[Den-O]

EBWOP: Similar to what Purvis said. There was an implication I could lose my cloak at some point.

[Ouja]

A wasted day is still good for scum, and Drake was a much better vote target for them because he wasn't going to defend himself while you had spent the last many hours kicking and screaming. I am sure they would have liked to see you lynched yesterday (assuming you're town), but it would have taken a lot more effort.

Um... lynching me yesterday would have been very, very easy.  Yes, I had spent plenty of time channeling my inner UncertainKitten but it certainly wasn't convincing anyone.  As far as I know the only reason Drake got lynched was because there was literally no other option after Trance's vote.

How so? I'm Mode, my cloak let me stalk people in the past. Bomb blew up, it was given to someone else. My role is tied to my item, which is now the roleblock gun.

So you're saying your ROLE is vanilla?

Ditto with my item btw.

[Sasword]

As much as I would like to hammer Trance home, the Role Stealer/Purveyor of Fine Leather Jackets is not an inherently scum role. The one game I played with it, it started with town.

I was referring to the ##copafeel ability tied to the 'drag commando' role, which appears to be a Rolecop. I will lend support to Valentia's claim of there being an autonomous Role Stealer ability that she possessed D1, because I currently have that role. Note, I still have an item that I received from the Mystery Bomb, but all i'm sharing for now is that it is Not-A-Bat (obv.)

Ditto with my item btw.

So you're basically saying that you didn't begin with an item then?

How so? I'm Mode, my cloak let me stalk people in the past. Bomb blew up, it was given to someone else. My role is tied to my item, which is now the roleblock gun.

If this is the case, then on N1 and N2 you got the chance to use the cloak, right? Can you share your results?

[Den-O]

Um... lynching me yesterday would have been very, very easy.  Yes, I had spent plenty of time channeling my inner UncertainKitten but it certainly wasn't convincing anyone.  As far as I know the only reason Drake got lynched was because there was literally no other option after Trance's vote.
So you're saying your ROLE is vanilla?

Ditto with my item btw.

Oh, for my role...

This is going to come out inevitably anyways so there's no point in keeping it under wraps any longer:

Slaves and I are Masons. (Sorry, Slabes :< )

[Den-O]

If this is the case, then on N1 and N2 you got the chance to use the cloak, right? Can you share your results?

On night one, I saw Purvis ##Ask Sana.
On night two, I saw Donut ##Pastry Purvis, but he failed.

[Sasword]

Well, that would make sense. I don't think that clears you completely as there's still the remote possibility that you two are Lovers or some kind of third party or something. Would like a confirmation by Slabes, as well as answering my questions from last post before proceeding.


As far as I see the ONLY choice for lynch today is Trance. Getting the hard confirmation would cause the rest of the details to fall into place (and comfort my paranoid mind and its endless speculation on this wonky setup). However, there's still a lot that still needs to be said before we end today, so let's not hammer Trance until we've managed to figure this out.

[Sasword]

That means that no one should put Trance at L-1 for at least another day, to prevent him from self-hammering. Just thought i'd make that crystal clear.

[Den-O]

Well, that would make sense. I don't think that clears you completely as there's still the remote possibility that you two are Lovers or some kind of third party or something.

I've considered the Lovers thing. But thus far in terms of potential alibis I feel like clearing Slaves, myself and Purvis. Maybe Donut and you too, I have to go back and find the role info to see if stuff matches up. Trance is a sold scum to me. Violentia is 'ugh'.

[Kiva-la]

Drake: Oh, okay. Sorry.

Mode: Do you have mod confirmation that you can trust Slaves? More than just "You and Slaves are masons and can talk to each other at any time"? Something along the lines of "You know Slaves to be town"?

I would like Slaves to answer this as well.

My original item's command was indeed Ask.

[Sasword]

Whoa waitaminit.

My role is tied to my item, which is now the roleblock gun.

Is that actually what it is? A roleblock gun?

[Den-O]

Whoa waitaminit.

Is that actually what it is? A roleblock gun?

"a disabler gun"

So yeah.

@Purvis: No, no confirmation. We can just talk to eachother freely.

[Den-O]

Whoa waitaminit.

Is that actually what it is? A roleblock gun?

Wait a sec, before you think too much into that:

I figured item and role were a similar thing. You're quoting me back -before- I figured out what Donut meant. (Hence "Oh, for my role..." )

[Sasword]

 

"a disabler gun"

So yeah.

If this is true, then there are two roleblocks floating around. Why? Because the roleblocking I had was specifically a tool, and nowhere did it mention being a gun. My roleblocks on Slaves and Donut are accounted for, but the roleblocks from this item are not. Did anyone else aside from Slabes N1 and Donut N2 get roleblocked?
 
Pesco had a Hijacker, Kilga had a Lie Detector, and Alice had a Possessed Item Identifier. Neo never said anything about Eve holding an item, and Wrathie had the Mystery Bomb and Magical Tree Stump. I have a hunch that the Mystery Bomb only switched the items of people that are still alive, which means the bat is likely still out there.  If anyone that isn't Trance has one of the items held by a dead person, they should speak up now. Let's compile what we have so far.


Mode: Trackercloak ---> Disabler gun
Purvis: Rolecop device ---> ??
Slabes: Item copier ---> ??
Drake: Disabler tool ---> Bat ----> ??
Donut: Pastry-protector ----> ??
Trance: ?? ---> Vigbat --> ??
Violentia: Vigbat ----> ?? ---> Item identifier

With the exception of Trance's floundering, nothing contradictory has come up so far it seems. Violentia, can I get a confirmation of what item you ended up with when your bat was taken away?

[Sasword]

Looking back over the chart I just posted, a problem already comes to mind. No one will own up to having the bat, yet we can guess that Scum didn't get their hands on it since they would have probably used it by now.

We currently have 6 unique items Trackercloak, rolecop device, item copier, vigbat, pastry protector, and roleblock device, with only five slots to fill them. This suggests that either someone is lying about their past or current item, or the 'disabler gun' and 'disabler tool' are actually the same thing and there's no consistency in the Role PMs. :| Why do I feel like its the latter?

[Serela]

Man, it's really time to Votecount!

TranceTheHime (2): GODrake, HoboverlordPurvis, Kuruminut
Kuruminut (1): TranceTheHime
Slaves (1): Kuruminut

Not Voting: Easy Modo, Slabes, Violentia

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.There are 51 hours left in the day.

or the 'disabler gun' and 'disabler tool' are actually the same thing and there's no consistency in the Role PMs. :| Why do I feel like its the latter?

Fun fact; it takes about an hour and a half (With no slacking off) for me to get all the night action stuff dealt with. Okay? ):

[DiEnd]

With the exception of Trance's floundering, nothing contradictory has come up so far it seems. Violentia, can I get a confirmation of what item you ended up with when your bat was taken away?

In #258, you say that the role you received was ##copafeel. Is this and 'drag commando' referring to the same thing? Makes sense but I want to make sure I understand you correctly.

First awsner is that, my item was Death resistant! when i got my bat stolen from me, which allowed me to live if lynched or killed otherwise

Second one, the drag commando does go with ##copafeel

[Ouja]

So you're basically saying that you didn't begin with an item then?

No.  I'm saying that the mod gave a very large WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE with the item about possibly losing it.

Mode:  Please don't call yourselves Masons if you're not confirmed to each other. >__>

On night two, I saw Donut ##Pastry Purvis, but he failed.

This is correct.  Note that until now I didn't reveal who I targeted.

The item chronology for me:  The "pastry protector" is Death Resistant.  I gained the One-Shot Anonyvote overnight (N1).  All of this has been detailed as of my claim D2.  After the Mystery Bomb I wound up with (and presently have) Death Resistant again.  (I am nothing if not hard to kill.)  Given Valentia's claim I suppose I know where my item went in the interim, and since the bat never crossed my hands it's worth assuming that the item change N1 wasn't a one-for-one swap.

[DiEnd]

##Vote: Kuruminut

I can see your confused faces on this, but with some help from the mods, I can sort out this mess.

My initial role was stolen Night 1, and I was basically immune to killing powers. However, that disappeared Day 2 and I was left with no role. HOWEVER, when I woke up on Day 3, lo and behold I now have an item swapping role. This brings me to the conclusion that THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE ITEM SWAPPING ROLE.

Now, how did I come to the conclusion of voting for Kuruminut? Well, he stated to have the vig vote that was used on Day 2 which nobody noticed. However, I had the item Day 1, and it disappeared on Night 1. Going with what Drake said in his previous post, VIOLENTIA SHOULD HAVE HAD THE VIG VOTE ON DAY 2. THUS, KURUMINUT COULD NOT HAVE HAD IT UNLESS ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPENED: HE SWAPPED ITEMS WITH VIOLENTIA NIGHT 1, OR HE AND VIOLENTIA ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

to disect this a bit i suppose.

I never had the vig vote, the only items ive had are the bat, the death resistance and the item identifier which i have today on D3

i can and will agree with the more than one item swap role since items are going everywhere and anywhere for some reason.

on night 1 i only got the death resist item which Kuruminut has right now, but he ended up with it due to the mystery bomb!

the results of the mystery bomb did not shine down on me as i didnt recieve any kind of item from it.
im going to pull my punches and vote for trance just for now

##vote trance

[Kick Hopper]

And with my dying breath.

##unvote
##vote: TRANCE

I BLAME THE GOLDEN WITCH!

*looks at avatar* oh wait, that's me.