Author Topic: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Game Over, Town Win  (Read 74326 times)

Serela

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 3 ~ BOOOOM!
« Reply #300 on: October 19, 2010, 12:43:07 AM »
hammer shut up
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Serela

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 3 ~ BOOOOM!
« Reply #301 on: October 19, 2010, 01:08:43 AM »
TranceTheHime the Drag Commando  I mean Role Stealer I mean Powerswitcher was lynched. He was in possession of a Lie Detector at the time of his lynch.

Night 3 starts now, please send in your actions.
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Serela

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Night 3 ~ Suicide solves everything!
« Reply #302 on: October 21, 2010, 12:36:09 AM »
The intercom came on and this is basically what it said although not really

no one died

6 alive 4 to lynch 72 hours blah blah bla- oh wait HEY IT'S PSEUDO-MYLO

In other words, if someone is lynched, and they are not a correct lynch, night actions will decide whether or not the game ends or lasts another day. If you don't lynch there will definitely be a d5.

120 hours remain in the day. NOW POAST!
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Sasword

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #303 on: October 21, 2010, 12:48:14 AM »
##Vote: Purvis

Want to get this out RIGHT NOW in case of Deus Ex Machina silences me before I could say anything.

Purvis has rode through this game free of suspicion, being at the top of everyone's Town lists. But why? What has he done to deserve such a Town read from everyone? I didn't expect to live through the day and as such I didn't prepare a substantial post, but having gone over the details and iso readings of the remaining players, Purvis stands out by far as the most likely person to be Scum in this pool.

Sasword

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #304 on: October 21, 2010, 01:00:59 AM »
Expect a more substantial post in a few hours. In the meantime, how about a roleclaim from you Purvis? You are notably the only person that is a complete question mark regarding role information. Quickchart time!

Slabes and Mode: Masons
Donut: Pastry-protector
Violentia: Role stealer to drag commando (rolecop)
Drake: Powerswitcher --> Role stealer to ???
Purvis: ???

In addition, it'd be great if we could get Slabes to confirm Mode's claim today.


Kiva-la

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #305 on: October 21, 2010, 01:02:18 AM »
I would ask for an actual case against me since there is literally nothing in that for me to defend against (though I will point out that we have a killstopping role floating about in whoever has the Donut power, so a no-death night is not unfeasible) but since you're not going to lynch me anyway I'm not going to waste town's time in getting bogged down in such an argument.

Roleclaim: One-shot Lynchstopper, where I specifically choose who I do not want to be lynched, and there's nothing in my role PM telling me I can't choose myself.

Fake Edit: Y'all are far too impatient.

Anyway. Still very much doubt Val is scum despite letting the day end like that. Still doubt Donut is scum. Drake is possibly crazy (or podded again) but not really thinking he's scum, though I'm more likely to change my mind on him than the other two.

Mostly looking at Mode and Slaves at this point, the latter more than the former. Would like to hear from Slaves on a number of things, such as mason status and item status.

DiEnd

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #306 on: October 21, 2010, 01:05:33 AM »
i kinda have to agree with drake here, purvis has been more under the radar about the scum o level and been let off alot for no reason =|

##vote purvis

Kiva-la

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #307 on: October 21, 2010, 01:20:16 AM »
Wonderful. I've just learned that, despite my role PM not saying I can't stop my own lynch, I can't stop my own lynch. Whatever, I'll fight with the mod in postgame about this.

So. I apparently stand accused of being suspicious because I haven't been suspicious? Or what. I'm not really sure I understand, since I didn't actually think people here would try to use Too Townie as reasoning against someone. Of course, didn't think people would use "you didn't die!" as reasoning against someone either, so I guess that shows what I know.

Is there something I've specifically done that you are seeing as scummy that I can explain why I did it? This would be a lot more productive than throwing out votes for reasons I can't actually defend. Extra nice would be reasons why I'm scummier than Slaves.

Though presumably Drake will be posting this post soon, so...I guess I'm twiddling my thumbs until then.

Ouja

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #308 on: October 21, 2010, 01:20:41 AM »
Purvis is like the last person I expected anyone to accuse.  Is there anything suspect in particular you want me to look at?

The fact that we're in pseudo-MyLo in spite of having never mislynched is kind of insane (it means that there are two groupscum left or a way to get three people to die).  Either we're looking at a Cult, a four-person Mafia (WHAT), a three-person Mafia with a Death Miller/izer on Pesco, or bastard mechanics as yet unrevealed that would allow for three deaths in rapid succession (a simple extra vote won't cut it).

So with that relatively unhelpful information out of the way, this is pretty much my list of suspicion.

1) Slaves.  His claim is full of holes, not the least of which is claiming an N0 target.  Calling fakeclaims are probably the most reliable way of finding scum at this point.
2) Mode.  Why, might I ask, did Slaves never mention anything about being fake-masons with Mode?  We've already established that Slaves is fakeclaiming and everything, but if Mode was Town he would have no reason NOT to talk about it for fear of being called out on it.  I mean, they're even NEIGHBORS, unconfirmed to each other.  That doesn't raise them up the scumkill target chart NEARLY as much as if they were confirmed to each other.  In fact, Slaves even said that Mode was a pick for the last scum.  Did anything that was said in private lead him to that?
3) Valentia.  Even someone playing at Valentia's level should have read the DON'T VOTE TRANCE warnings, and I actually kind of hate this most recent vote.
7) Purvis.  Has looked Townish all game.  I'll reread him (eventually) because Drake said so but I don't expect to find anything.
11) Drake.  No wait, scum would absolutely bus Trance after being hijacked and replaced by some third party.    Sorry, obvscum!  (kidding)

##Vote: Slaves

Ouja

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #309 on: October 21, 2010, 01:25:44 AM »
Doubleposting because I really don't want this Purvis wagon going anywhere, especially if we're in MyLo and he has 2 out of 4 votes.

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Calling fakeclaims are probably the most reliable way of finding scum at this point.
Screw thinking, just go with what's on the page!

Serela

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #310 on: October 21, 2010, 01:30:53 AM »
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The fact that we're in pseudo-MyLo in spite of having never mislynched is kind of insane
woooow I really shouldn't have removed two people from the setup for signups  :ohdear:

Egads, a Votecount!

Hoboverlord Purvis (2): GODrake, Violentia
Slabes (1): Kuruminut

Not Voting: Slabes, Easy Modo, HoboverlordPurvis

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Purvis is at L-2.
There are a whole friggin lot of hours left in the day.
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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #311 on: October 21, 2010, 01:53:47 AM »
To clarify, I was a vanilla with a role-switching item.  Thinking about the item/power distinction, I have no idea  about whether I'm copying their roles, their items, or both.  (it seems like a role however).  Also, I will clarify that although I can talk to Mode, I have no mod-confirmation that he is town at all.  Also, I was given the opportunity to  copy an ability right off the bat, which seemed like a N0... either that or it's just special for me.  I did nothing in between N2 and D3, as I said my item changed due to the mystery bomb. 

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) If Slaves inspects items, how did he get anything like what Purvis said?
2) If Trance is pretty much obvious scum, why is he missing from the scumlist?
3) If my role is only good for Town, why the generic suspicion?  I've made things more or less as clear as they're going to be.

And donut, Trance I labelled obvious scum in that post, and would have hammered if I had access to a computer yesterday.  Also, on N2, I drew you and that revealed that you have the pastry item, for that gave me the ability to pastry someone as well. 

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Does this or does this not seem like a scum ability?  If so, why didn't you do anything to suggest that Eve may be scum on Day 1?

As for Eve, well, that kind of ability seems impossible to determine alignment from (sounds possible for town too?), and I did not want to risk something from that.  Everyone may be scum actually, which makes that distinction weird.

I'm quite happy that you 'established' that I'm fakeclaiming.  Furthermore, said that it was a cross between Violentia, donut, and Mode as the remaining scum due to not having the role solidity (watchers could be scum) or past play to confirm that.  Lastly, why would scum think up of a N0 for fun, and how is it a definite scumtell?  It seems more WIFOM-ey than a scum tell, after all.

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Alright,  thinking about it, donut's role seems to be more suited for town than scum (sounds strange for scum anyway, they would protect no one other than their scum-mates anyway.  But it still is possible, and I'm not very happy about his play sans role, what with parroting following other people's points regarding me on D2, the whole supposed defending and WIFOM on D2, and the relatively bad D2 (voting me for 'lining up lynches'?).  Even his latest vote on me is not exactly comprehensively given, what about accusing Mode on the sole basis as me being his scumpartner.  But on role alone, and perhaps the putting of the secret vote somewhere else on D2, other people are worthy of consideration as well. 

Purvis has kept up solid activity throughout the game and is the main instigator of many cases like the donut one, which do utilize plenty of original thought and active scumhunting (as opposed to donut's passive, defensively-oritented scumhunting).  I would think that one needs actual reasons to implicate him rather than the mere thought that he could be scum as well.  Scum could have a rolecop as well, however, but I think his play is great enough to discount that chance of him being scum.

Violentia is one of those horrible enigmas which one cannot make anything out of, which is why I suggested to lynch her D2.  I'll go for noobtown, but I'm still quite wary.

GODrake is most definitely town.

Mode, I have not looked at very much at all during the game (as did anyone until D3, I would like to point out), but while her presence has been strong for the majority of D1, with that questioning of donut which was pretty good, she kind of disappeared off the map on D2 and D3, with not a case I remember of (coasting behind the lurkwagons on D2 without much reasoning, going through motions of role madness on D3).  While at the very least donut did put up solid activity and rhetoric about how he wasn't scum on D2, and participated in calling me out (rightfully) on my claim, Mode did not do anything.  Really seems to me that Mode is coasting by the game, role-madness or not, not in the Violentia way but the scummy way.  She needs some posting on who is scum and why.

##Vote: Mode

Sasword

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #312 on: October 21, 2010, 02:23:51 AM »
First,

##Unvote

Alright, I have to postpone my large writeup due to a realization. But first, I'd like claims as to who targeted who last night, and if anyone was roleblocked. We can confirm that Mode did indeed have the role-blocker ability due to #295, so i'm especially curious as to who she chose to block last night.

Ouja

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #313 on: October 21, 2010, 02:51:04 AM »
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To clarify, I was a vanilla with a role-switching item.  Thinking about the item/power distinction, I have no idea  about whether I'm copying their roles, their items, or both.  (it seems like a role however).  Also, I will clarify that although I can talk to Mode, I have no mod-confirmation that he is town at all. 
YOU ARE NOT VANILLA
IF YOU CAN SPEAK WITH SOMEONE

ENGLISH
DO YOU SPEAK IT

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Also, I was given the opportunity to  copy an ability right off the bat, which seemed like a N0... either that or it's just special for me.
It's just you.  The only way this would make sense is if someone has a daytime ROLE, and I don't think anyone does.

Re: why would you lie about N0 - It's not like people intentionally screw up claims.

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And donut, Trance I labelled obvious scum in that post, and would have hammered if I had access to a computer yesterday.  Also, on N2, I drew you and that revealed that you have the pastry item, for that gave me the ability to pastry someone as well.
I did indeed say that you labeled Trance as obvious scum.  Yet he was missing from your scumlist.  That would be the point.
Further, I do not have a pastry --item--.  Nothing about any item I've had past or present says pastry.
And last, if you were able to pastry someone, then why didn't you do it and claim results?

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As for Eve, well, that kind of ability seems impossible to determine alignment from (sounds possible for town too?), and I did not want to risk something from that.  Everyone may be scum actually, which makes that distinction weird.
Nnnnnnnnno.  There is no reason for a Townie to want to send someone a fake mod PM outside lolcrazygambiting.
And I'm still bothered that there is absolutely no crumb of this at all.

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Even his latest vote on me is not exactly comprehensively given, what about accusing Mode on the sole basis as me being his scumpartner.
Well when both of you say you're fullclaiming and the SECOND one comes out and says you're both neighbors ONLY under pressure, yeah, that sounds like a conspiracy.  I could go further and talk about Mode's absence D2 and D3 when I'm not talking about her or *insert D1 reasons here* but see giant quote from my previous post.

Also while I'm thinking about it, why do your role and Mode's original item seem like they do more or less the same thing?

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Quote from: Drake
But first, I'd like claims as to who targeted who last night, and if anyone was roleblocked. We can confirm that Mode did indeed have the role-blocker ability due to #295, so i'm especially curious as to who she chose to block last night.
I would like to go later due to the nature of my role.  Apologies for being difficult.

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #314 on: October 21, 2010, 03:13:01 AM »
Whoops.  I guess you're right about the vanilla thing.  Not that the Neighbour role was functional at all (hardly used it much), but okay.

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About Eve.L Deuhr

It's not about a townie wanting to send it or not.  It's about whether a person who is able to send it is townie or not.

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I did indeed say that you labeled Trance as obvious scum.  Yet he was missing from your scumlist.  That would be the point

That is no point and irrelevant to anything at all.  That scumlist contained the 'remaining scum' after Trance.

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And last, if you were able to pastry someone, then why didn't you do it and claim results?

I wasn't able to due to real life reasons.  I could only be online once a day then, and by the time the mod sent me the results, I was not able to use them since day already started.  As for the pastry role, it's a role, I suppose.  The main thing is that I was able to copy it.

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Also while I'm thinking about it, why do your role and Mode's original item seem like they do more or less the same thing?

I clarified that my drawing thing was an item and not a role.  Other than the neighbour thing, I'm not sure what you mean, if Mode's original item was a watch.  Could you explain?  If you mean that we targeted the same people on N2 (e.g you), I would like to point out that Drake targeted you too.  It's sheer coincidence, since my role was non-functional the way my activity was.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2010, 03:24:04 AM by NeoSerela »

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #315 on: October 21, 2010, 03:13:22 AM »
Oh, sorry.  Could the mod fix the above post?

<NeoSerela> :3c
« Last Edit: October 21, 2010, 03:23:45 AM by NeoSerela »

Kiva-la

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #316 on: October 21, 2010, 03:50:26 AM »
I will gladly go before Donut, but I would actually prefer Mode go before I do. I realize that I'm not in the best position to request delaying my roleclaim given some people are agitated with me, but please bear with me on this one.

Sasword

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #317 on: October 21, 2010, 04:40:35 AM »
Damn, this whole trying to keep items and roles separate is confusing. :| Slaves, Mode, and Val then, if you guys could claim your actions/items from N3 first please.

In the meantime, I'm curious about your One-Shot Lynchstopper thing Purvis. Do you have to choose the person in advance before a certain point of the day, or do you lose the opportunity if they get hammered, or what?

Kiva-la

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #318 on: October 21, 2010, 04:47:29 AM »
I'm supposed to choose them "late in the day", but I can actually activate the power after the lynch if I'm quick enough, too. I tried to pull it out as early as I did today because with both you and Valentia slapping down votes on me with little to no debatable backing I wasn't inclined to wait around for one or two more people to come waltzing in and do the same thing. We've had two premature hammers in the three days, so I think my jumpiness is somewhat justified. I honestly don't know what would happen upon successful use; the next-closest person might get lynched instead, I guess, but it's more likely that there would just be no lynch that day.

It is also heavily suggested I can submit more than one person to be made unlynchable, but with the way my self-"protect" fizzled it wouldn't surprise me if I tried that and got "NOPE ONLY ONE" in response.

Since I can't use it to protect myself I find it highly unlikely I'll use it at all, as none of the people I wouldn't want to see lynched are under any sort of fire.

Den-O

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #319 on: October 21, 2010, 05:07:00 AM »
Mode here.

Post inc.

OOO

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #320 on: October 21, 2010, 05:29:49 AM »
Likewise, I'll wait for Mode to claim before I claim my new item.

Den-O

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #321 on: October 21, 2010, 07:08:24 AM »
#MotKPsychoMafia
#Title[Day 4 - Pseudo-MyLo!]
#BGM[dreadofthegrave.wav]
#ScriptVersion[2]


(Totally not breaking any image rules, yeahhhhh!)

Humour me, Chentlemen!

Donut is town.
Drake is town.
Mode is town.
Purvis is town.
Slaves is unconfirmed.

Valentia is scum.

I know this because I can establish an alibi for the first four people I listed!

On night one, I used my invisibility cloak to follow Purvis.
I saw that Purvis used ##Ask on Sana!
Purvis has confirmed this!
Given that Sana was alive the following day, that he did not seem to be impaired in any visible way, and that Purvis did not use a nightkill, Purvis is town!

On night two, I used my invisibility cloak to follow Kuruminut.
I saw that Donut used ##Pastry on Purvis, but it failed!
Donut has confirmed this!
Given Donut's power, record of town action (blah blah logic applied to Purvis, you get the idea), Donut is town!

Drake's lynch and the subsequent destruction of ImposterSerela give Drake an alibi! Drake is town!

I can account for myself,
and I can account for why there were NO DEATHS yesterday!

Mode used her roleblock gun to roleblock Valentia! The following morning, nobody was found dead! This is because Valentia attempted to use her kill power and failed because of the roleblock!




"Wait! On its own, this doesn't verify that Valentia is scum! Anyone can still be the culprit! Ahhh! It's useless, it's all useless!"

You're right, Battler-kun! On its own, this doesn't implicate Valentia. Scum could have simply withheld a kill to cause confusion. This doesn't clear Slaves, either - let's address this last point first!


The mason pair is unable to verify the town status of eachother.
Mode, one of the pair, possesses the roleblock gun.
We know that this item exists because it was successfully used on Donut on Night 2, and we know that it is in Mode's possession because nobody else has counterclaimed the item!

With this, the town can lynch the implicated Valentia and, if she does not flip scum, Mode can roleblock Slaves in the following night!
Whomever is in possession of Mode's old invisibility cloak can confirm that Mode fulfills her action overnight, providing proof to her claim of townness!


"But this isn't enough to implicate Valentia!"



Yes it is!

Valentia jumped to help hammer Sana with little prior participation at the end of Day 3 as evidenced in this link! She did this to help her appearance of being town-aligned! You can compare this to her past history of riding off the labors of other players, even if we are to disregard Refuge in Audacity!

##Vote: Violentia

I have you cornered, witch! You will not escape from meeeeeeeeee!

DIE THE DEATH!
SENTENCED TO DEATH!
GREAT EQUALIZER IS THE DEATH!


KYAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA~





Den-O

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #322 on: October 21, 2010, 07:09:01 AM »
FUCK YEAH YOU BET THAT POST TOOK ME TWO HOURS

NOW I'M GONNA GO GET ME SOME ORANGE JUICE

E WE

Kiva-la

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #323 on: October 21, 2010, 07:17:47 AM »
...Huh. Well.

I must admit that was not at all what I expected, given what I learned overnight (and then again today).

I claim the cloak of invisibility. (This is why I've danced around the item issue ever since the beginning of yesterday - I didn't want to draw more nasty attention to myself.) Last night, I stalked Slaves. He did not take an action, just as he has claimed. (This is why I did not immediately vote, as others around me were doing - Slaves was still my prime suspect, but I wasn't as sure as I was yesterday.)

I have asked our mod in the interim if scum can choose to forgo their NK. He told me no, scum have to kill every night. As not sending a Night Action-less Scum Slaves out on the kill last night would have been very stupid, and Mode has now claimed to have roleblocked Valentia, I firmly believe Slaves is town. (I was still holding out for the possibility of Mode having roleblocked Slaves, which is why I wanted to delay my claim today.)

##Vote: Valentia

Foot in mouth on this one. I was wrong about Trance, and now I've apparently been wrong about Valentia.

Kiva-la

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #324 on: October 21, 2010, 07:27:45 AM »
Worth noting: The "can't see night actionless Scum Slaves not going on the kill" point also is based on the idea of four scum. If there are only three scum then he's completely in the clear.

Though I imagine Valentia is that third scum so it wouldn't really matter anyway.

Ouja

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #325 on: October 21, 2010, 11:20:51 AM »
I ran out of time to finish my response, but suffice to say I'm not ready to buy into Mode's theory.  I'll be back this evening to elaborate, hopefully.  (Today's going to be really bad IRL.)

Sasword

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #326 on: October 21, 2010, 01:08:05 PM »
I'm supposed to choose them "late in the day", but I can actually activate the power after the lynch if I'm quick enough, too. I tried to pull it out as early as I did today because with both you and Valentia slapping down votes on me with little to no debatable backing I wasn't inclined to wait around for one or two more people to come waltzing in and do the same thing. We've had two premature hammers in the three days, so I think my jumpiness is somewhat justified. I honestly don't know what would happen upon successful use; the next-closest person might get lynched instead, I guess, but it's more likely that there would just be no lynch that day.

It is also heavily suggested I can submit more than one person to be made unlynchable, but with the way my self-"protect" fizzled it wouldn't surprise me if I tried that and got "NOPE ONLY ONE" in response.

Since I can't use it to protect myself I find it highly unlikely I'll use it at all, as none of the people I wouldn't want to see lynched are under any sort of fire.

For someone who just commented earlier today they were jumpy about these premature hammers, and being a pseudo-Mylo situation, and you being the Golden Townie, you sure did just put someone at L-2 and eat up what Mode just said, despite in #305 saying that she was your primary suspect.

Hell, you didn't even wait for the rest of the claims, to see if someone else could dispute her claim of roleblocking Val! What's up with that?


Val, please let me request from you that you don't immediately follow along with the theatrics, and wait until everyone has gotten their claims out before jumping on a wagon. We still need a claim from you as to who you used your ability on last night, and a claim from Slabes. And Donut. We've all but confirmed that the bat has been buried, and it's seriously starting to look like a 2 scum situation with the 'Pseudo-Mylo' being due to Donut's pastry and/or other protective abilities that could keep us from dropping down to 2 scum 2 town in the event of a mislynch.

Kiva-la

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #327 on: October 21, 2010, 01:21:01 PM »
- I said Slaves was my primary suspect, not Mode. Lern2latter.

- I trust Valentia to not lynchrush herself. In addition, there is at least a modicum of a case on her for her to defend against, while there was not with me. Yes, this is an important difference.

- Mode lying about who she roleblocked would be mind-numbingly stupid because there's a very good chance whoever was roleblocked was told they were roleblocked and thus would be able to call her on it immediately.

Funny how you demanded a roleclaim from me really early on today when you were set to lynch me and are now demanding roleclaims from everyone else, including two people extremely likely to be townies in Slaves and Donut (the latter of which has explicitly requested to go later), while you are still sitting on the table as a complete enigma despite having had several chances to claim. What's up with that?

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #328 on: October 21, 2010, 02:05:54 PM »
Modes post is interesting, but still... I'm still quite bummed about how there are probably two scum around even though we only mislynched once and even though scum did not NK anyone last night.  Instincts tell me however, that there might be something else involved... perhaps a one-shot vig survivor or something of some sort that someone is hiding ... The vigbat is probably not around if there are two scum due to it being a psuedo-MyLo. 

I itemclaim my Sock Stealer, which grants me the ability to forceaim anyone's night actions unto someone else one night without ever knowing what that night action was in the first place and without knowing who was targeted originally by that ability.  I decided not use it last night as investigative and protective roles could be screwed up and stuff like that, and also, I did not know whether the vigbat was with someone.  Given the situation now, I think that decision was good.

As for deciding to claim after Mode, I did not want to give him the fancy idea of throwing the roleblock to me in his claim (since I did nothing) on the chance that he was scum and that there was someone investigating me (e.g Purvis), to maintain my innocence.  But on hindsight, this seems kind of stupid, since a scum roleblocker has every interest to use his ability anyway, and as Purvis said, everyone else (who presumably can make night actions) can tell if they have been role-blocked or not.  Oh well..

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Mode's reasoning seems fair enough for me to believe it.  If no one else is targeted for an NK, then Valentia is most definitely scum, since scum have to kill... Valentia's conduct the entire game hasn't been stellar either, with her giving up at D2 and stuff like that, though she improved on D3 and beyond, and I'm quite alright with lynching her too.  Not going to vote before listening to what she has to say, but okay.

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Re: MotK Psycho Plot Mafia ~ Day 4 ~ Pseudo-MyLo!
« Reply #329 on: October 21, 2010, 02:13:08 PM »
- asdfafds former vs latter. Sorry.

- Like I said, I was going to be posting the subsequent writeup as to why I suspected you and wanted to get it out on the table for now, but a realization cut that short.

- No comment for now.

Yeah, I apologize about that one. I trust Donut's towniness and i'm fine with going before him first, but it's important that the results of the night actions come out before I bite. The case isn't as slam-dunk as Mode seems to think and there are some glaring problems with the case, since for one the NK for last night could have been protected Donut.

And I haven't claimed yet because its a reeeeeeeeeeeally sketchy situation, Purv. It's important that I don't give scum information about this role. I guarantee that my reasoning for wanting to go after everyone will be made clear once I get the chance to make my case.