And I wouldn't mind being thrown out of the window, it it is not LYLO
Umm...Yes you are. Much better than Kilga.
##Vote:Slabes, for totally ignoring being accused of impostering!
Am I doing it right? :]
Seeing as you just made the third vote on Kilga and we already have serious votes on the table, I'd like to see better justification than 'I have nothing better to do'. There's scumhunting to do, so chop chop.I hate everything about this post.
Also, seriously raising an eyebrow at Wrathie defending Trance there. Why, when it's one of the better serious votes on the table right now?
Also, seriously raising an eyebrow at Wrathie defending Trance there. Why, when it's one of the better serious votes on the table right now?
This one really is scum. "There's scumhunting to do, so chop chop"? Really?
Ya rly. We're past RVS at this point so I expect people to have a little more backing their vote than 'why not'. So it's scummy to tell people they should put effort into scumhunting and avoid throwing votes out haphazardly?"There's scumhunting to do, so chop chop!" sounds like a cheesy attempt to goad people into action without actually feeling that urgency yourself - like "you do it; I'll play activity police". I mean really, "chop chop"? At least Ha ha, old chap! is fashionable. Chop chop just sounds forced.
"There's scumhunting to do, so chop chop!" sounds like a cheesy attempt to goad people into action without actually feeling that urgency yourself - like "you do it; I'll play activity police". I mean really, "chop chop"? At least Ha ha, old chap! is fashionable. Chop chop just sounds forced.
I 100% agree with Wrathie about Trance. He's an easy target Eve picked out for an equally easy vote. We've already been warned that there are a bunch of newbies running around this game, and Trance is basically confirmed newb.
These posting restrictions are going to get very obfuscating, very fast, too. :/
Doubtful that you both are because it feels absurd to me that scum would tie themselves to each other, but I suppose weirder things have happened.
So let me get this straight.. you're voting me because I chided someone for providing 0 explanation for their bandwagon vote, and because I said "Chop chop"? :/ Or is it because I questioned Wrathie's defense?All of the above and a little more! :3
Feeling confident that either you or Wrathie is scum. Doubtful that you both are because it feels absurd to me that scum would tie themselves to each other, but I suppose weirder things have happened. Leaning a little more towards Wrathie right now pending a response to my queries from last post.This post doesn't say anything about Kilga, who was ~*~third on your wagon~*~ for no particularly explicit reason. Why not chide him? :P
So that situation is could be pretty likely, assuming one of them is new.I'm not new and I'm extremely sure Wrathie isn't either.
wrathie's vote was already on you long before the post you linked.
This post doesn't say anything about Kilga, who was ~*~third on your wagon~*~ for no particularly explicit reason. Why not chide him? :P
his vote (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7309.msg457701.html#msg457701) don't count as an explicit reason? Third on the wagon be damned, Kilga's reasons for having a vote on me are better than yours and Wrathie's combined.
I agree. There really isn't a whole lot of "scumhunting" to be done with so little on the table, and GODrake looks suspect as a result. Piling votes on someone is a good way to get some discussion going, so at the moment I don't see a need to chide Trance for it.That's what he said; this is what I read:
I don't have anything better to do and Drake looks scummy because nobody else does <note lack of WHY Drake is suspicious>, so BANDWAGON
@Kuruminut: You voted me for saying third on the wagon is scum, Kuruminut. You are now saying third on the wagon deserves chiding. Why?~*~sarcasm tags~*~
You chide me for voting GODrake. The person you are voting is GODrake. What am I missing? I'm missing an alternative.Originally it was a question to point out Drake being inconsistent in his suspicion, as evidenced by your lack of reasoning to vote him yet his insistence that you had the BEST REASONS OF ALL.
@Slabes: There was little to go on at the time. It's natural people don't have a lot to say at game start. Telling people to go scumhunt is superfluous right now because there is little scum to see for all there is to hunt. Given the alternatives, voting GODrake takes point.I still don't see a reason why voting GODrake takes point.
Look at Drake. Now back at Donut. Now back at Drake. Now back at Donut. Sadly, I suspect this to be a town vs. town argument.I'm leaning that way too. --RELATED NOTE TO BE GIVEN LATER--
SWAN DIVE! Into Post #3, where the mod says "several newbies", unquestionably indicating that there are, indeed, multiple new players. The ladies love a player that reads well. They also love a player that uses their vote, as well as one that doesn't let up with existing pressure votes when their target has yet to respond. Pesco needs to step his game up if he wants to get the ladies, because he's not doing any of these.Are you suggesting Pesco is one of the new players? I doubt he is.
@Kuruminut: Between your last post and now this post, nothing changed from Drake's side. Why do you suddenly think he's town in a town vs town argument now?Post frequency.
@Kuruminut: Explain.Scum have a harder time making lots of contentposts in a row. It can be done but not easily.
@Kuruminut: Why are Drake's posts contentposts now, but not before?The idea is that he could keep up a running argument.
But well, Drake, I had a third vote given to me by Violentia on the first page without reasoning (which I think it's fine), but why didn't you raise this over that? Not likely to explain much, since they're the same person, but you're going to have to do more than just implicating people as scum for suspecting you.
Telling people to scumhunt right at the ending stages of RVS is faking participation. It's better to pile on someone and create discussion than to tell people to scumhunt and stifle discussion, or try and make them screw up by fakehunting.
but you're [GODrake] going to have to do more than just implicating people as scum for suspecting you.To be fair to Drake here, at the time he made his claim that one of them were scum, no one else was discussing anything. There was nothing to pin on others then.
##Unvote
##Vote: Violentia
Third on the train is scum.
<NeoSerela>Fix'd that code for you :3
Actually I'm not sure if Pesco was referring to the thread as a whole or Sana Spice, but either way, it's not like he's adding anything.
Before I go there, though, I'm more sure of the "third on the train" argument being more likely to be made by scum than Town.
##Unvote: Alice
##Vote: Kilga
Come on,DRAWVOTE WITH ME
"There's scumhunting to do, so chop chop!" sounds like a cheesy attempt to goad people into action without actually feeling that urgency yourself - like "you do it; I'll play activity police". I mean really, "chop chop"? At least Ha ha, old chap! is fashionable. Chop chop just sounds forced.
I 100% agree with Wrathie about Trance. He's an easy target Eve picked out for an equally easy vote. We've already been warned that there are a bunch of newbies running around this game, and Trance is basically confirmed newb.
Cheesy third vote reasoning too.
Wrathie's posting style is amazing. I read his posts twice because... let's leave that sentence there, actually.
##vote Kilga
##vote kilga
sure why not not like i have much else to do~
Seeing as you just made the third vote on Kilga and we already have serious votes on the table, I'd like to see better justification than 'I have nothing better to do'. There's scumhunting to do, so chop chop.
Also, seriously raising an eyebrow at Wrathie defending Trance there. Why, when it's one of the better serious votes on the table right now?
Ya rly. We're past RVS at this point so I expect people to have a little more backing their vote than 'why not'.
Also, I think somewhere in that fluffy mess of a post I saw you accusing me of cheerleading. How what why? ??? Who exactly was I cheering on? Are you sure you know what it means to cheerlead in a mafia sense?
So let me get this straight.. you're voting me because I chided someone for providing 0 explanation for their bandwagon vote, and because I said "Chop chop"? :/ Or is it because I questioned Wrathie's defense?
All of the above and a little more! :3
wrathie's vote was already on you long before the post you linked.
This post doesn't say anything about Kilga, who was ~*~third on your wagon~*~ for no particularly explicit reason. Why not chide him? :P
Humz,
Well my joke was for a hellofit to begin with. not like there was many talking going on but oh well.
Drake's so far, "give a reason" for voting really seems like a taunt everyone to begin talking and throwing random accusations around when drawing attention to himself seems odd.
What sort of reason did i have to vote kilga other than that "Bandwagon" vote being tossed around over and over.
if i had a reason i would obviously explain myself and why i chose that person to be lynched~
##Unvote kilga
##vote GODrake
* FoS: Kuruminut for double standard in regards to trying to get a Drake lynch train going and then quickly trying to jump on the Kilga one.
Why the delay in jumping on me? I made my voting reasons known before you said a thing, but you didn't respond to them until just now. What was the point of your post before that, and why did you not analyze the situation at that time?
There really isn't a whole lot of "scumhunting" to be done with so little on the table, and GODrake looks suspect as a result.
Telling people to go scumhunt is superfluous right now because there is little scum to see for all there is to hunt. Given the alternatives, voting GODrake takes point.
and then a pointless argument occurs where Wrathie and Donut throw random day one scumhunting buzzwords at Drake who ends up having to throw them back since there's not much else you can use for defense on day one.Aside from not seeing any buzzwords in my posts, I can't really take this seriously coming from someone who said "policy lynch" later in the same post. Never mind that policy lynches aren't for people who are experienced and holding back.
Come on,DRAWVOTE WITH ME
There's scumhunting to do, so chop chop!These aren't saying the same thing. The first is an obvious call to bandwagon. The second is an obvious call to "scumhunt", whatever that means when you're tearing down the first attempt at a non-joke bandwagon. They're both attempts to "herd" people, sure, but at least I could tell you what I wanted done.
I can't find 'cheerleading' in the context of Mafia save for a 'how to have a successful cheerleading audition' in the Mafiascum Strategy Guides. ( :| )I've got to find that one :D
tl:dr I vote Eve, could change to kilga, pesco, or modebut probably swapping Kilga to Alice and Pesco<->Eve.
makes some weak arguments (weaker than usual anyway)Using meta in an anonymous game is bad form, but using it as a reason for supporting one of your major reasons for voting me makes it look more scummy than just bad form.
Do I really need to restate that Trance and Pesco aren't doing anything, though? And where did Sana go?Why are you lumping Trance, Pesco, and Sana together? One of these things is not like the others.
Wrathie is voting Eve.k fix'd
Why are you lumping Trance, Pesco, and Sana together? One of these things is not like the others.
Do you suspect Sana or Trance at all?
oh good, the part i knew i had to type about. drake: to start, the ebil post was bad. not good. check the timestamp. 6 mins after trancy's vote is ebil one's. *chug* yaaa.... 6 mins. and vote reason is blanket statement about shameless badnwagon hop WIDTHOUT opinion on weather (hee hee intentional type-o go!), trance was being scummy or if it could habv been a townie mistake. evey is too knee-jerk in that post. i wish she would jerk.... uh... nvm. can the mod ban me for sexual harrassment? *sip* so yea, how does this apply to you drake? after donut's vote on you, i followed his lead a bit. your statement about me in numero 47 about evey having one of the better serious votes along with not pressing too hard on either thing was enough to make my vote on yu serious. thats what i think of about you cheerleading. i dun think you looked at the bigger picture about teh ebil one. care to disagree? *sip*
As I said in the other post, weak argument that feels like you are trying to hide the fact that you are jumping onto the wagon.
Drake's so far, "give a reason" for voting really seems like a taunt everyone to begin talking and throwing random accusations around when drawing attention to himself seems odd.
I'm lumping all three together due to inactivity; Pesco has responded more (Sana just did too) than the others, but the responses were subpar which is one of the reasons he's being voted for.Making bad posts counts as inactivity? Strange world. And there was a second question affixed to the one you quoted that was more relevant but just fell off the radar.
Gosh guys I think I got lost on my way to the thread and somehow you ended up with some confusing business! I'll do the best that I can to catch up but sorry if I accidentally overlook something!
Looking at page 3 now, Pesco's posts make him look like he was being cautious. Still suspicious of Kilga.
Hi Alice! Alice makes his post all smart-like but what's weird is that he votes the same person as Kilga does, but fails to take note of the Kilga case, whose wagon is arguably one of the more prominent ones. >:<
There really isn't a whole lot of "scumhunting" to be done with so little on the table, and GODrake looks suspect as a result. Piling votes on someone is a good way to get some discussion going, so at the moment I don't see a need to chide Trance for it.
(Also it's being pushed by people I don't trust.)
I don't like how donut seems to swing from agreeing with me on D1 and voting me on D2 just because of the flip and Sana's rather sad wagon hop.Your idea of what my reasons are make no sense. Seriously, try explaining it.
Not sure what's up with Donut needing a second post to declare Kilga obvTown. Irks me since it should have been obvious from Pesco's flipNot really. Alternative wagons to scum aren't necessarily town. Although I just noticed while typing this that the Kilga wagon was {Trance, Slaves, Pesco, Sana} so yeah.
I'm really not sure at all why Mode seems desperate to avoid talking about people who are very likely to be and/or have flipped as scum. ...Well, that's not true. I have a decent idea why he may be doing that.
Who are we talking about, here? There's three options.1) and 2) If these are the only two living options in your mind, why aren't you voting either of them?
- We could policy lynch Sana for lack of participation or any particular content, acting basically as a reporter, since the 'lynch anything' tactic is statistically very much in favour of town-side given we have one essentially-confirmed town (Kilga, though I don't think we can 100% confirm anything outside of an investigation or flip, principally speaking). Slabes seems to think otherwise on this (Sana lynch), though.
-We could lynch Slaves for similar participation and lacklustre justifications; but his defense is doing more than base parroting or reporting.
-If you meant Pesco from D1, that's done and over with so I don't see how it matters.
1) and 2) If these are the only two living options in your mind, why aren't you voting either of them?
3) It's done and over with, but it absolutely matters that you did what you could yesterday to avoid mention of him at all, let alone voting him.
On a side note, your first point makes me want to RAGE a little more.
*"Policy lynch" doesn't mean what you think it means.
*Is Kilga more-or-less guaranteed Town or not? (I still think that tell is a little dubious but that's beside the point.)
*Confirmed or not, if you think we only have one likely Townie you're underreporting the advantage Town has right now. All the people who are being voted for right now, plus you, are pretty much the only people who are likely to be scum in this game and that pool is going to shrink as the game goes on.
I'm lumping all three together due to inactivity; Pesco has responded more (Sana just did too) than the others, but the responses were subpar which is one of the reasons he's being voted for.
If we're coming down on Pesco or Kilga at this point (there's still some time left) I still think Kilga's a townie. We'll see if anything changes.
...votecount ninjaed >:Don't mind me, I'm just a compulsive votecounter.
I was asleep okay! D:
Regarding voting: Sana is at L-2 and given that this is a power-heavy game, there could very well be a hidden double vote in play. I figure I've already said I found him suspicious, and as such I put my vote on Valentia over my earlier case. Slabes? I don't think he's scum, and in all likelihood the train on him is going to be a town-town argument.Where is Trance in this?
To the third point:Why wait?
This was intended to be a 'Alright, I'll agree here' and 'If there isn't a lynch when we get back I'll hammer down the Pesco train'; I guess I have to be more literate here.
Underreporting: I don't even know what to say to this, do you want me to go 'OH MY GOD GUYS WE ARE TOTALLY GOING TO WIN THIS!!' to avoid underreporting in the future? :|You don't know what to say to it because it wasn't an accusation per se. Probably my fault for making it out to look like one.
Pretty much the only differences between Sana and Trance is that Sana dished out more original content and Trance happened to select the right guy as the very last vote of the day without explaining the vote in depth (why can't Sana do the same thing?)
@Purvis: Sssh.
@EasyModo: In #113 you say that you have your doubts about Slabes. Yet in #121, you seem to take a more certain stance on that Slabes is not scum. What are the doubts you have with regards to Slabes, and why are they insignificant insofar that you can declare him town at this stage?
Where is Trance in this?
Why wait?
You don't know what to say to it because it wasn't an accusation per se. Probably my fault for making it out to look like one.
In the first quote, you mention that there's a chance that OMG SANA MIGHT GET SECRETHAMMERED. Considering Sana is at or near the top of everyone's scum list, it wouldn't be a bad thing for Sana to get lynched secretly or otherwise even if a Town flip results. But beyond that, I wouldn't take it seriously as a reasoning if it weren't for this being a role madness game and the fact that I actually DO know that there's a secret vote in the game. For some reason, I have come into the possession of it. There are one or two odd uses for it as Town, but the ability to bring on a stealth majority makes it much more useful for scum. And since it's one-shot, I think you'll find that as of the next (official) vote count Sana will be a little closer to lynch than before (L-2).
And since it's one-shot, I think you'll find that as of the next (official) vote count Sana will be a little closer to lynch than before (L-2).Yet you said
I went back and looked over to find that someone had unvoted Sana, so she's no longer at L-2, so:Or in modern English, you just put Sana at L-1.
##Unvote: Valentia
##Vote: Sana
I'll say this first, since it needs its own post and I'm not sure what to make of it.
You clearly read my post. Yet you said
Or in modern English, you just put Sana at L-1.
2. Why vote so people can haphazardly drop a hammer like we did to take Pesco down?What was particularly haphazard about the Pesco hammer that would have been made more so by your vote? He was lynched with seven hours to deadline, most of them in the dead of American night. I'm glad people were online.
What was particularly haphazard about the Pesco hammer that would have been made more so by your vote? He was lynched with seven hours to deadline, most of them in the dead of American night. I'm glad people were online.
Cut: Bold was so people saw it in case they showed up before you did, not so much for the threatening factor.
Wrathie was musing about the meaning of a Sacrificial Lamb earlier: my first thought is that Eve was a bodyguard. But then we'd have to start discussing the flavor text of her having been found dead rather than overtly stabbed to death, which will lead us nowhere.I think we can trust the flavor text in this game. I think the different flip color means that Eve was a third party of some variety who may have failed to reach their win condition. The original Eve was site-banned for being a forum game going horribly wrong, and the flavor text mentioning that thread points toward a connection. So Alice was more than likely the scumkill and more than likely either chosen randomly or at the last minute, suggesting a team of newbscum.
Who are we talking about, here? There's three options.
- We could policy lynch Sana for lack of participation or any particular content, acting basically as a reporter, since the 'lynch anything' tactic is statistically very much in favour of town-side given we have one essentially-confirmed town (Kilga, though I don't think we can 100% confirm anything outside of an investigation or flip, principally speaking). Slabes seems to think otherwise on this (Sana lynch), though.
Unless a bigger spark of evidence appears Sana is off my scum list.What scum list :V
Basement DwellerI'm better than that; I'm posting from the ground floor.
though disappearing off the face of the earth makes her look worse
Now, on to Pescohax, who is the center of all the fire.
time is starting to wind down
there's no point pushing the bandwagon anywhere forward into dangerous waters yet.
Can you also explain why Kuruminut's change of heart is disconcerting?
asdasda donut:D
However, between the two, you seem to think of Trance is the likelier scum due to Sana supposedly dishing out more original content, and of course visible in that you agree and build on the case Sana propagated. If you truly believed Sana to be scum, I do not think you would take up the case he built. Can you explain which camp you are in proper? Can you also explain why Kuruminut's change of heart is disconcerting?
##GoPlanetThere was a bit of a collective "What" as Sana called out the trademark Captain Planet summoning.
Great role, too.But what no one really knew is that Sana's role had the power to make window glass sentient.
The window glass fell to the floor in absolute stunned silence.
@donut: Sure, circumstances may have changed, but an explanation should have been given. It's not really an OMGUS in that there was no intention to vote you, just a need to see some reasoning for how the change of circumstances affected your opinion.What part of "I agree with everything Kilga said" made no sense? (To head the obvious following question off at the pass, I gave a longer explanation afterward, so there was one.)
Kilgajesus has been kneecapped to death.Oooooooonce there was this giiiiiiirl who
Also, summary wallposts aren't cool. They don't tell me much because I read the topic, and they slow me down from seeing that you didn't say anything about Pesco.
I'm voting you because you made one significant post yesterday, mentioning Pesco long enough to not ignore him but not being anywhere around when he actually came under fire. Sure, I agreed with that post at the time, but circumstances have changed quite a bit since Page 2.
So Alice was more than likely the scumkill and more than likely either chosen randomly or at the last minute, suggesting a team of newbscum.
That's why I'm the king of the Koopas! I GET THINGS DONE!
Going to Nutty's #83, now that I read it, his responses to Mode aren't really that adequate. A call to bandwagon from both you and Drake is still what it is and yea, you did go vote Drake for it. So you never really refute the point, just brush it aside. Also:"They're the same thing"
Whoa, pot and kettle! From #37-#75, you pretty much don't acknowledge Pesco at all despite spending the time to be extremely talkative about most everyone else and their responses. Kilga noticably questions Pesco while talking to you and I find it odd you don't. Only after there are already 2 votes on Pesco, you bring up an analysis of Pesco and at the same time a simple one-liner temporary clear of Kilga in your big #83. By this point, you can reasonably say that Pesco had done himself in by then as he never posts in the game again and the various votes fall into place. So yes, after the lone non-Pesco vote was proven to be Town moments ago, Pesco was bus worthy after his post #82. Picking on the late newb or the nub voting Kilga in Day 1 seems short sighted.I was engaging Kilga and didn't want to move on until I was done with him. Saying I had a "simple one-liner clear of Kilga" shows that you didn't read it or what I was doing. And while we're on this subject, I was the one who pointed out that Pesco tried to get away with calling me and whoever possible newbscum partners, probably the strongest part of the case IMO.
And in regards to your reason to vote Slaves:At the end of yesterday and before Today, my suspect list looked like this (in order):
Pot and kettle again! You give me bad vibes all around and I want this train of thought to be discussed more. Therefore, I don't trust going on the Valentia wagon right now with 3 quick votes on it and the Trance wagon is a bit inconclusive. Those 2 definitely need to speak up and vote.
As for your other points, you're free to make do with them, though I'm not sure how they fit into an overall scheme of things now.Is this an underhanded way of saying "lol I'm not scum with Donut"? ::)
The scum team is more likely nubbie because they evidently considered not killing last Night (why?) and because frankly I have Town reads on almost everyone else. The fact that there were pro-Town reasons for killing Alice doesn't mean that's why it happened - there were far better kills IMO.
"Far better kills over Alice" is your opinion, but may not reflect the Scumteam's opinion.But if I'm ON the scumteam, and likely paired with a newbie, wouldn't I have, y'know, not killed Alice?
And I figured that Pesco not voting after his jokevote disappeared, his bystanderism then delayed and shoddy jump onto Kilga were stronger factors against him, not that he called 2 people scumpartners.Bolded ignores that Pesco also implied that both me and Drake (or was it Kilga, whoever) were newbies as well as scumpartners, which was obviously not true. But whatever.
And frankly, I never saw your supposed extra vote in effect. You and Mode ran through some dialogue of voting and unvoting, but I actually never saw it on a mod's votecount. Please link where it's supposed to be. I also wondered why you would bother to reveal such a power proactively. If you're worried about it making you look scummy, you don't really have to use it.Ctrl-F "Basement Dweller". I even acknowledged it publicly afterward. I don't have time or the right browser to link to it.
Also wait wait wait. Why the change from Valentia to Trance? Just because for some inconclusive reason, you think Trance submitted the Kilgakill? I'd like you to re-summarize your case against Valentia, Trance, and Slaves so I can make more sense of all your jumps.Trance is at most slightly more scummy than Valentia for the reason given. I wouldn't mind if either of them got lynched Today.
I was engaging Kilga and didn't want to move on until I was done with him. Saying I had a "simple one-liner clear of Kilga" shows that you didn't read it or what I was doing.
this an underhanded way of saying "lol I'm not scum with Donut"? ::)
But if I'm ON the scumteam, and likely paired with a newbie, wouldn't I have, y'know, not killed Alice?
As bad as Valentia is, there's something here telling me I don't want to vote for her. Not yet. Part of it is the mad dash to her right after Sana's flip, and part of it is looking back at that post and going "that post is just bad". Bad bad. Unhelpful bad. Anti-town bad. But...I don't know if I see it as scummy. I look at it and think "What would make scum more likely to post this than town? What advantage does scum hope to gain by being this unhelpful?" And I have no answer to these questions. When I do, I'll be ready to vote for her.
I'm Town. If you can't see that after I threw away the ability for scum to let SUPER STEALTH LYLO go by - AND allowed my hypopartner to throw away my SUPER STEALTH LYLO MAKER one-shot vig - please learn to play Mafia.
Donut, I did not want you to be "more clear" about the lynch pool. I knew exactly what you were getting at. What you're doing with those lynch pools is herding the town by trying to subtly convince them toward only looking at a handful of suspects with ignoring all others. Focusing in on a small set of players is not a good thing, especially not this early. I will want a cop claim at the very least before I even start considering throwing out players as suspects. There are people I think are townier than others, sure, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to consider them. For example, both Drake and yourself have plummeted down my townie list despite being near the top at the very beginning of today.It's entirely possible to be completely fooled by scum acting Town, sure. It's happened before to all of us. But one, it's not early. Assuming two scum left, tomorrow is LyLo if we mislynch today and we've already had plenty of revealing discussion up to this point. And two, simply because I don't think a large group of people are scum doesn't mean I ignore them completely. I wondered about Wrathie after the kill-ga, and after reconsideration I still think he's Town. Process of elimination is a wonderful thing, and to say that you're not willing to consider people Town without a Cop investigation is to take out what's arguably the easier approach of finding scum.
"Dangerous assumptions", as Wrathie put it, are not pro-town, and misdirection via those assumptions is certainly not a townie action.I have explained over the course of at least three posts why I think these assumptions are at least IMO are likely to be accurate. If you don't buy into them, consider that I'm wrong but working with the best information I have instead of SCUM SEKRETLY TRYING TO MISLEAD TOWN TO ITS DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.
And yet Kilga had no problem discussing things with both yourself and Pesco at the same time. What made it impossible for you to discuss Kilga and Pesco at the same time, especially when Pesco's response to your question was so incredibly lackluster? Not "wanting to" is hardly a good reason - town should always want to grill people they find scummy.The theory was that I wanted to stay primarily on Kilga's case so the pressure didn't come out like "I'm pressuring you now but if you give a good answer I can hop onto this next person and you can skate by". Believe it if you wish.
Given Alice's level of play, I wouldn't be surprised if anyone decided to off him first, be they SK or Vig or Scum.Anonymafia. Alice does not necessarily mean Alice, in spite of the similarity in posting style. Come on now.
How do we know that scum had the one-shot vig - I don't know where this idea came into play.Kilga was the one person people have been willing to call obvious town. Who on EARTH would vig the golden townie? OH THAT'S RIGHT.
Just making a blanket statement that most people are pro-town and voting those not in that list just for that reason is very very lazy, especially if there are little to no reasons. It also releases the pressure and allows you to miss out on a whole lot of people in order to get some easy lynches.The people getting voted today, minus myself and plus Mode, all just happen to be the people who have been off my Town list since the beginning of the day. Are you suggesting that I should be digging up dirt on people I think are Town for the sake of "scumhunting"?
Even if we play wonderfully in the next two days, we are not going anywhere with this shadow of a newbie haunting us day and night.Hey Mode, that's more what a policy vote looks like :P
And really, I doubt the mod was screwing with us when he chided the scum on not wanting to make a kill (or not being present to submit one, more likely).Just gonna throw out there, that was flavor related to like, how in flavor people actually died so flavorscum might not want to use their nk and etc
About me being so called "under the radar" and being scum for being so under the radar, i generally do not have much to add to other peoples statements as is.
The case behind Sana at the moment could possibly lead her to be lynched, still not sure on it and i rather not vote on it as of yet.
I see no point in the,"Lynch anything" tatic, seems like a pull out a machine gun and spray option which isnt the smartest idea ever
Unless a bigger spark of evidence appears Sana is off my scum list.
*is prodded*
fine fine.
##vote trance
Since there is a case on him at the moment.
Just gonna throw out there, that was flavor related to like, how in flavor people actually died so flavorscum might not want to use their nk and etcI actually don't buy that. ##Vote: NeoSereI'll have to take your word for it anyway.
So yeah. :X
I'm not sure who is more deserving of this day's lynch, but it is clear that neither of us are wanted for the final phase of the game. However, I will refrain from voting on you currently....Could you explain what you mean by deserving of this day's lynch, and why you want to refrain from voting Valentia?
Sana Spice (4): HoboverlordPurvis, Omega Wrathie, TranceTheHime, Basement Dweller
TranceTheHime (2): Sana Spice, Slabes
Slabes (2): Kilgajesus, Kuruminut
Violentia (1): GODrake
Not Voting: Violentia, Easy Modo
I have explained over the course of at least three posts why I think these assumptions are at least IMO are likely to be accurate. If you don't buy into them, consider that I'm wrong but working with the best information I have instead of SCUM SEKRETLY TRYING TO MISLEAD TOWN TO ITS DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.
The theory was that I wanted to stay primarily on Kilga's case so the pressure didn't come out like "I'm pressuring you now but if you give a good answer I can hop onto this next person and you can skate by". Believe it if you wish.
No seriously Donut, why are Valentia and/or Trance obvious scum? I will entertain the notion that you could be Townie just pushing this reckless train of newbscum thought, but I want another summarization. You brushed me off last time and I interpreted it as not wanting to say something that would incriminate yourself. Your votes have been too fluid between them through the Day, and it smacks of indifference as to which one is the "more correct lynch" which is how Scum like to roll. But they are 2 different people with 2 potentially different alignments. Differentiate them and explain why one is better than the other for today.I never actually said Valentia and Trance were obvious scum. I don't know which of the two is better and with no further decentposting it's hard to tell or really care. It would be a bit easier if Slaves or Trance would answer the questions I've posed to them but y'know.
And where's your suspicion of virtually every player piling onto either of them EXCEPT the supposed 2 who look the most Townie right now. That means there's scum on one or both of those wagons and with LYLO so damn close now, chances are damn high at least one of them is incorrect and actually a Townie.Chances are very high that one of the three wagons is on a Townie, yes. It's also likely that one of the two not-me wagons is also on a Townie. And if you read my recent post - this is becoming a familiar theme in my responses - I've expressed that Slaves' vote was actually quite dubious and Trance isn't making any sense from any PoV.
Violentia (2): Easy Modo, GODrakeIn spite of what I said in my previous post (oh look! suspicion!) I'm sticking with Mode-town for today at least.
TranceTheHime (2): Slabes, Kuruminut
Kuruminut (2): Omega Wrathie, HoboverlordPurvis
Here is something I am disturbed by. As of the current time, Donut has now voted Trance. In essence, he has voted all 4 of the above people during the day! There is so much wrong with this kind of scumhunting I can't even put it into words. Seriously, I want this damn point to be looked at and his explanation for all the switches.Okay. Small words time.
So the "I'm pressuring you now but if you give a good answer I can hop onto this next person and you can skate by" ended up applying to Pesco instead, since you gave up questioning him after one shot (that had a pretty bad answer) and went over to Kilga. This doesn't do you a whole lot of good either.I was looking at Kilga first and wanted to finish up.
It just occurred to me that Donut has now admitted he knows of the item swap mechanic as well. He thus would have known from his Day 1 item that items were losable - and that his secret vote item must have come from someone else. And he still tried to pass off using it now in his defense because scum would want to keep it hidden even though it wasn't hidden the instant he got it and he knew it.I don't know how the vote swap works. Scum passing to scum -> awesome.
Feeling confident that either you or Wrathie is scum. Doubtful that you both are because it feels absurd to me that scum would tie themselves to each other, but I suppose weirder things have happened. Leaning a little more towards Wrathie right now pending a response to my queries from last post.lol, I've seen this kind of logic from flipped scum in this game!
But well, Drake, I had a third vote given to me by Violentia on the first page without reasoning (which I think it's fine), but why didn't you raise this over that? Not likely to explain much, since they're the same person, but you're going to have to do more than just implicating people as scum for suspecting you.Wait, what?
But ending RVS to me takes a little bit of town effort, so I'm actually much more wary on Kilga for jumping on the bandwagon without much reasoning; how is chiding Trance and encouraging scumhunting scummy by itself? I don't agree with what donut is saying, but at least his reasoning seems more extensive to showing why he is scum.
Trance just broke his alleged post restriction. I would like an explanation.The above post was not an explanation of this.
I certainly am allowed to think more than one person scum tooWho is scum?
I explained why I thought Trance more interesting than Sana, and how Violentia is absolutely not interesting in playing the game as opposed to Trance, who at least seems like he is. I did not know that Violentia would be that hateful in not providing anything at all to work with, but she was, apparently, which is why I changed my vote. And if you think that vote-hopping is not scummy, why are you applying that concept to me?Nonono. You said "you were not in either camp" in between Trance and Sana. It's a shame Sana left because I'm interested in how you would have broken that tie.
(lining up your lynch? How?)Read that post and tell me it doesn't basically say "I'm going to policy vote Valentia and probably go for Donut tomorrow if he doesn't behave".
(where did your Mode case go? ...Trance was more likely to submit the Kilgakill?)I got townish reactions from Mode to the extent that I stopped pressing him. I probably overthought how much I could game the mod.
Out of the four to five people not on your list, I have no idea about how you look at things since you often change your votes without reference to what they actually did.How much more clear do you need me to be? The case on Sana was self-evident. I agreed with Kilga about you. I launched a fairly nice attack on Mode, although there was no vote attached. I provided a reason for going to Valentia clearly based on what was inthread. I provided reasons for going on and off Trance, and then back to you.
Besides, with nine-tenths of your posts used to justify your methods and engage in a rather drawn-out and non-useful defense using WIFOM and stuff like that (scum would not do that! I would be lurking, looking at me is a waste of time! etc.),It's non-useful because people don't know what to look for. This may or may not be my fault.
If you DID know that, why did you try to claim that you, as scum, would try to keep the secret vote hidden when it was no longer hidden the instant it changed hands?
I don't know how the vote swap works. Scum passing to scum -> awesome.If scum have that extra vote in LyLo, they win. It doesn't matter who knows about it or not.
And I still prevented it from going to scum.
"I'm going to policy vote Valentia and probably go for Donut tomorrow if he doesn't behave".
You said "you were not in either camp" in between Trance and Sana.
And why are you attacking him for spending a lot of time defending when he's spent a lot of time being attacked?
I never actually said Valentia and Trance were obvious scum. I don't know which of the two is better and with no further decentposting it's hard to tell or really care.
As I said before, I expected to get grilled for my play sooner or later. The fact that this push is soaking up a real-time day is discouraging. It's not impossible for me to get lynched over obvious scum. But what really frustrates me is that the people who are pushing me as scum are my top Town reads and no doubt everyone else's. It's a waste.
Vote-hopping is not scummy. Repeat. Vote-hopping is not scummy.
Slaves: You have suspicion of Donut for a variety of reasons, but will not let off Valentia because he's more spazzy or something? Understand this, we are here to lynch scum, not liabilities. You even say Donut is more scummy than either Trance or Violentia.
If scum have that extra vote in LyLo, they win. It doesn't matter who knows about it or not.
Question for Drake. When did you lose access to your account?
- The results of that Mystery Bomb, or at least whatever we're going to get in public.
- A roleclaim AND substantial post from Drake. I want to know why the hell Day 2 ended the way it did, and something more than "Valentia is obvbad *vote*" which is the only thing you did yesterday. Doing that again will land my vote on you every day until you die.
- A claim clarification from Donut. Is your role exactly as you described it? You target someone, they are completely untargetable, you see who targeted them and how many times, you die if you get eaten too much? And nothing else?Targets are not completely untargetable. I'm told that NKs will fail, at least. I'm assuming there are other actions that won't work as well. However, all actions taken on my target will result in a nibble.
However, the time that I spent being tied up on the sidelines did do me some good, because I managed to figure out a few things. Like for example, I now know for a fact who vigged Kilga yesterday. TranceTheHime, come on down!Well okay never mind what I was just saying about Trance. I'm not going to argue with that.
(...)
Over N2, I then had a flash of insight. 'Violentia'.... 'Kneecapped'... I bet Val had the 1shot Vig, which would have put it in Trance's hands on D2! Of course, this was still speculation, but luckily I had just the way to prove it. After confirming with mod that 1shot items do not disappear upon use, I switched myself and Trance's items. And lo and behold!
Looking at the Kilga death, it was when the wagon on me was starting to pick up. They clearly could have saw what an opportunity this was to push the focus on me after the death, as the most obvious person who killed Kilga would have definitely been me. So, KURUMINUT AND VIOLENTIA MUST BE THE REMAINING SCUM!I don't think it would be that obvious to anyone that you killed ga. I came to the most likely conclusion based on limited information, and I'll bet every dollar of my OWN money that nobody else would have read that much into the situation.
Re: Purvis - Hey look, I can give you two of the three things! And I might even be able to help you on the remaining one, but I'd rather withold that information until Donut speaks up again.
I'm Town. If you can't see that after I threw away the ability for scum to let SUPER STEALTH LYLO go by - AND allowed my hypopartner to throw away my SUPER STEALTH LYLO MAKER one-shot vig - please learn to play Mafia.
##Vote: Kuruminut
I can see your confused faces on this, but with some help from the mods, I can sort out this mess.
My initial role was stolen Night 1, and I was basically immune to killing powers. However, that disappeared Day 2 and I was left with no role. HOWEVER, when I woke up on Day 3, lo and behold I now have an item swapping role. This brings me to the conclusion that THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE ITEM SWAPPING ROLE.
Now, how does this help me? Well, under that revelation, I asked the mod what would happened if two people used the same power to swap the item of a guy twice. The mods responded with that it was based on the order of who sent their actions first. So, the scum who had the bat could have had the item swapping power. Seeing a good opportunity to frame me, THE PERSON CONTAINING THE BAT COULD HAVE SWAPPED THE ITEM TO ME, AND THEN IT GOT SWAPPED TO GODrake.
Now, how did I come to the conclusion of voting for Kuruminut? Well, he stated to have the vig vote that was used on Day 2 which nobody noticed. However, I had the item Day 1, and it disappeared on Night 1. Going with what Drake said in his previous post, VIOLENTIA SHOULD HAVE HAD THE VIG VOTE ON DAY 2. THUS, KURUMINUT COULD NOT HAVE HAD IT UNLESS ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPENED: HE SWAPPED ITEMS WITH VIOLENTIA NIGHT 1, OR HE AND VIOLENTIA ARE WORKING TOGETHER.
Looking at the Kilga death, it was when the wagon on me was starting to pick up. They clearly could have saw what an opportunity this was to push the focus on me after the death, as the most obvious person who killed Kilga would have definitely been me. So, KURUMINUT AND VIOLENTIA MUST BE THE REMAINING SCUM!
Also, Kilga just died. Somebody is either seeking attention, avoiding it, or just wanted a random kill in the middle of the day.
Simple, as I have the Lie Detector item after the bomb exploded. I can check to see if what you're saying is the truth according to the mods, but provided I live to night to use it.
But it wasn't a throwaway: Vigs and extra votes are almost never allowed in LyLo circumstances.There was no such tag on either of the voting abilities I have received.
And were you really trying to say that obvtown Kilga who is obviously aI don't understand the first question. I anonyvoted Sana.high inquisitorgreat Mafia player is a 'throwaway vote'? Also, very interesting that you attribute 'your hypopartner' as the one that would've had the vig and not yourself. I can't find anything in the backposts where someone suggested that idea... so where'd that come from anyway? Hmm?
Or the MUCH more likely and less contrived explanation: You're a dirty liar and you and Donut are the remaining scum. Note that Donut never stated that he had the vig vote: it was his 'hypopartner'. I love that both you and Donut accepted what I had to say without a peep of skepticism, and suddenly go balls-out against each other. If that isn't pounding nails in the coffin, I don't know what does. :DI wasn't that ballsouty about it, at least not until now. You presented an intricate and (as far as I know) believable claim and I immediately voted Trance because of it. The complexity of Trance's claim also initially slowed me, though his theory is not likely given that it requires me to have needlessly switched items with hypopartner Valentia AND his claim doesn't really have anything shockingly Townish about it on second glance (bulletproof seems overpowered for town, and he still hasn't mentioned anything about his role or broken post restriction).
Note nowhere in here that Trance suspects me, when i'm the one claiming the powerswitcher role. If he really was a townie paranoid about being framed, dont'cha think he'd at least bat an eye my way?Probably.
Both Trance and Donut know for a fact that i'm Town because they are the two remaining scum.Aside from the claim, I have to say I'm fairly skeptical of the idea of scum voluntarily replacing themselves with what appears to be a malignant third party, even temporarily.
(Also he got the actual name of his role wrong but that's neither here nor there. >_>)What.
What is this I don't even.
I am prepared to vote for Trance at this point, but with the secret vote running around unaccounted for at this point I'm going to hold off. Call me overly cautious.
Drake, if I may fish for a moment, were both the powerswitcher and the roleblocker powers items, or is one inherent to you? You seem to have been implying the former.
In regards to items being related to the people that started the game with them, I am curious why Drake would start with two items were this the case.
Since I no longer have it, I will say my previous item was a Rolecop device. I initially thought it useless (and was even tempted yesterday to try to taunt scum into taking it just so they'd waste their time on it) because I copped Sana and got "Planeteer" with no helpful description, but last night I copped Donut and actually got useful information. The info I got matches up with what he described - everyone who targets the person he targets nibbles him instead, this stops some actions, he knows how many times he was bitten but not by whom. The eventual death trigger is curiously absent, however. (Also he got the actual name of his role wrong but that's neither here nor there. >_>) Even so, I am not particularly inclined to believe he is scum; this is not a particularly useful role for scum, and I'd think it would have been on the NK last night if it WERE scum, but Donut very clearly did not kill anyone last night given the roleblock.
Valentia I believe to be town because no one died D1 and scum not using a potentially refillable, potentially losable anon dayvig is a beyond-retarded move for them to make.
and it turns out, he can swap items! Then I asked the mods whether or not you can swap roles with dead people, and it also turned out you can. So we may have another person running around with an item swapping power of Mindhax.
Anyway. If Valentia really killed N1 I'd be slightly more inclined to think her town - killing Eve would have been a very stupid scum move, given how they played D1.
Violentia: What was your item and what was your role? You refer to the baseball bat as a role, but it is clearly an item. Please clarify this.
I roleclaim (orginally) Slaves, the legendary artist who can copy items for one night by drawing pictures of people like Kilga shooting jesus lasers from his eyes! Night 0, I drew Eve L.Duehr, and her ability was to send a fake PM to anyone else through the mod (which I did not, since i saw no use for it). Night 1, I drew Kilga but got roleblocked (sadly, in retrospect). Night 2 I drew donut, and I can confirm his claim as completely true. Sadly, nothing any different from what Purvis has claimed in the first place.eh wot
Trance with that kind of 'make it up as you go' posting sequence doesn't really cut it for me. <more bad stuff about Trance> making him obvious scum to me.wot wot
(...)
In the end for me, it's a cross between Valentia, Mode and donut as remaining scum.
donut feels town due to the nature of his role, but I think things aren't as clear as they should with him...rofl wot
eh wot
wot wot
rofl wot
I roleclaim (orginally) Slaves, the legendary artist who can copy items for one night by drawing pictures of people like Kilga shooting jesus lasers from his eyes! Night 0, I drew Eve L.Duehr, and her ability was to send a fake PM to anyone else through the mod (which I did not, since i saw no use for it). Night 1, I drew Kilga but got roleblocked (sadly, in retrospect). Night 2 I drew donut, and I can confirm his claim as completely true. Sadly, nothing any different from what Purvis has claimed in the first place.
My first role was to be a Role stealer, but the role itself was automatic and i had no control of it whatsoever. The role activated on N1 Where i stole the role as a drag commando.
Dammit, I forgot a few things in my defense post, but that's been torn apart. My Night 1 action was used to use my role power #copafeel on Pescohax to find out the exact power he had, and it turns out, he can swap items! Then I asked the mods whether or not you can swap roles with dead people, and it also turned out you can. So we may have another person running around with an item swapping power of Mindhax.
rofl rofl wot wot eh roflThat's aboot all you need to be Canadian, yes. That and a penchant for reading quotes.
Night 0, I drew Eve L.Duehr, and her ability was to send a fake PM to anyone else through the mod (which I did not, since i saw no use for it).Does this or does this not seem like a scum ability? If so, why didn't you do anything to suggest that Eve may be scum on Day 1?
I am Mode! She's p. cool I think. She stalks people at night and doesn't afraid of anything.Somewhere along the way I think you broke the Border of Item and Role. Clarify please.
Basically I have an invisibilityclockcloak that lets me stalk someone at night, seeing what their action is and who they target.
Unfortunately, Wrathie's bomb exploded! Damn that blogger. Now I have this weird disabling gun thing. I guess I don't get to dig up dirt on people anymore? :<
@Purvis: As much as I don't like what Trance is doing, I don't think that that line of logic is sound. While I agree that scum had to know what was going on with turning Drake into Gaggles, lynching notDrake wasn't burning a mislynch at all - the only thing it did was waste a day. It would have been superior for scum to lynch me yesterday. That goes back to why I said Trance wasn't scum before Drake came in.
I would like to point out that Valentia had no way of knowing that his items could have been easily losable on D1 and thus him not using the dayvig on D1 may not be so townie after all if he's scum
It's a safe assumption to make that this role was Trance's, given his predisposition for crossdressing. The role even has scum undertones, being the Rolecop version of the Prostitute! Final nail in the coffin, anyone?
Somewhere along the way I think you broke the Border of Item and Role. Clarify please.
A wasted day is still good for scum, and Drake was a much better vote target for them because he wasn't going to defend himself while you had spent the last many hours kicking and screaming. I am sure they would have liked to see you lynched yesterday (assuming you're town), but it would have taken a lot more effort.Um... lynching me yesterday would have been very, very easy. Yes, I had spent plenty of time channeling my inner UncertainKitten but it certainly wasn't convincing anyone. As far as I know the only reason Drake got lynched was because there was literally no other option after Trance's vote.
How so? I'm Mode, my cloak let me stalk people in the past. Bomb blew up, it was given to someone else. My role is tied to my item, which is now the roleblock gun.So you're saying your ROLE is vanilla?
As much as I would like to hammer Trance home, the Role Stealer/Purveyor of Fine Leather Jackets is not an inherently scum role. The one game I played with it, it started with town.
Ditto with my item btw.
How so? I'm Mode, my cloak let me stalk people in the past. Bomb blew up, it was given to someone else. My role is tied to my item, which is now the roleblock gun.
Um... lynching me yesterday would have been very, very easy. Yes, I had spent plenty of time channeling my inner UncertainKitten but it certainly wasn't convincing anyone. As far as I know the only reason Drake got lynched was because there was literally no other option after Trance's vote.
So you're saying your ROLE is vanilla?
Ditto with my item btw.
If this is the case, then on N1 and N2 you got the chance to use the cloak, right? Can you share your results?
Well, that would make sense. I don't think that clears you completely as there's still the remote possibility that you two are Lovers or some kind of third party or something.
My role is tied to my item, which is now the roleblock gun.
Whoa waitaminit.
Is that actually what it is? A roleblock gun?
Whoa waitaminit.
Is that actually what it is? A roleblock gun?
"a disabler gun"
So yeah.
or the 'disabler gun' and 'disabler tool' are actually the same thing and there's no consistency in the Role PMs. :| Why do I feel like its the latter?Fun fact; it takes about an hour and a half (With no slacking off) for me to get all the night action stuff dealt with. Okay? ):
With the exception of Trance's floundering, nothing contradictory has come up so far it seems. Violentia, can I get a confirmation of what item you ended up with when your bat was taken away?
In #258, you say that the role you received was ##copafeel. Is this and 'drag commando' referring to the same thing? Makes sense but I want to make sure I understand you correctly.
So you're basically saying that you didn't begin with an item then?No. I'm saying that the mod gave a very large WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE with the item about possibly losing it.
On night two, I saw Donut ##Pastry Purvis, but he failed.This is correct. Note that until now I didn't reveal who I targeted.
##Vote: Kuruminut
I can see your confused faces on this, but with some help from the mods, I can sort out this mess.
My initial role was stolen Night 1, and I was basically immune to killing powers. However, that disappeared Day 2 and I was left with no role. HOWEVER, when I woke up on Day 3, lo and behold I now have an item swapping role. This brings me to the conclusion that THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE ITEM SWAPPING ROLE.
Now, how did I come to the conclusion of voting for Kuruminut? Well, he stated to have the vig vote that was used on Day 2 which nobody noticed. However, I had the item Day 1, and it disappeared on Night 1. Going with what Drake said in his previous post, VIOLENTIA SHOULD HAVE HAD THE VIG VOTE ON DAY 2. THUS, KURUMINUT COULD NOT HAVE HAD IT UNLESS ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPENED: HE SWAPPED ITEMS WITH VIOLENTIA NIGHT 1, OR HE AND VIOLENTIA ARE WORKING TOGETHER.
Calling fakeclaims are probably the most reliable way of finding scum at this point.Screw thinking, just go with what's on the page!
The fact that we're in pseudo-MyLo in spite of having never mislynched is kind of insanewoooow I really shouldn't have removed two people from the setup for signups :ohdear:
) If Slaves inspects items, how did he get anything like what Purvis said?
2) If Trance is pretty much obvious scum, why is he missing from the scumlist?
3) If my role is only good for Town, why the generic suspicion? I've made things more or less as clear as they're going to be.
Does this or does this not seem like a scum ability? If so, why didn't you do anything to suggest that Eve may be scum on Day 1?
To clarify, I was a vanilla with a role-switching item. Thinking about the item/power distinction, I have no idea about whether I'm copying their roles, their items, or both. (it seems like a role however). Also, I will clarify that although I can talk to Mode, I have no mod-confirmation that he is town at all.YOU ARE NOT VANILLA
Also, I was given the opportunity to copy an ability right off the bat, which seemed like a N0... either that or it's just special for me.It's just you. The only way this would make sense is if someone has a daytime ROLE, and I don't think anyone does.
And donut, Trance I labelled obvious scum in that post, and would have hammered if I had access to a computer yesterday. Also, on N2, I drew you and that revealed that you have the pastry item, for that gave me the ability to pastry someone as well.I did indeed say that you labeled Trance as obvious scum. Yet he was missing from your scumlist. That would be the point.
As for Eve, well, that kind of ability seems impossible to determine alignment from (sounds possible for town too?), and I did not want to risk something from that. Everyone may be scum actually, which makes that distinction weird.Nnnnnnnnno. There is no reason for a Townie to want to send someone a fake mod PM outside lolcrazygambiting.
Even his latest vote on me is not exactly comprehensively given, what about accusing Mode on the sole basis as me being his scumpartner.Well when both of you say you're fullclaiming and the SECOND one comes out and says you're both neighbors ONLY under pressure, yeah, that sounds like a conspiracy. I could go further and talk about Mode's absence D2 and D3 when I'm not talking about her or *insert D1 reasons here* but see giant quote from my previous post.
But first, I'd like claims as to who targeted who last night, and if anyone was roleblocked. We can confirm that Mode did indeed have the role-blocker ability due to #295, so i'm especially curious as to who she chose to block last night.I would like to go later due to the nature of my role. Apologies for being difficult.
About Eve.L Deuhr
I did indeed say that you labeled Trance as obvious scum. Yet he was missing from your scumlist. That would be the point
And last, if you were able to pastry someone, then why didn't you do it and claim results?
Also while I'm thinking about it, why do your role and Mode's original item seem like they do more or less the same thing?
I'm supposed to choose them "late in the day", but I can actually activate the power after the lynch if I'm quick enough, too. I tried to pull it out as early as I did today because with both you and Valentia slapping down votes on me with little to no debatable backing I wasn't inclined to wait around for one or two more people to come waltzing in and do the same thing. We've had two premature hammers in the three days, so I think my jumpiness is somewhat justified. I honestly don't know what would happen upon successful use; the next-closest person might get lynched instead, I guess, but it's more likely that there would just be no lynch that day.
It is also heavily suggested I can submit more than one person to be made unlynchable, but with the way my self-"protect" fizzled it wouldn't surprise me if I tried that and got "NOPE ONLY ONE" in response.
Since I can't use it to protect myself I find it highly unlikely I'll use it at all, as none of the people I wouldn't want to see lynched are under any sort of fire.
Anyway to defend myself vs modo.
One biiiiiiiiiiiiig contraindication in your master plan to pin the scum on me
My Drag commando worked last night i ##copafeel on Kuri who roleclaimed as governor which i really didnt feel like re-stating since he said it once already
So if i was Roleblocked last night how did i copafeel ;3
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4240/georgecarlin.jpg)My wild and crazy opinion is that I rather expected this to happen.
Donut, Drake, still thinking Valentia's not scum?
The mason pair is unable to verify the town status of eachother.Since Donut, Drake,
Mode, one of the pair, possesses the roleblock gun.
We know that this item exists because it was successfully used on Donut on Night 2, and we know that it is in Mode's possession because nobody else has counterclaimed the item!
With this, the town can lynch the implicated Valentia and, if she does not flip scum, Mode can roleblock Slaves in the following night!
Whomever is in possession of Mode's old invisibility cloak can confirm that Mode fulfills her action overnight, providing proof to her claim of townness!
I never had the vig vote, the only items ive had are the bat, the death resistance and the item identifier which i have today on D3Valentia has not claimed an Item Identifier result from last Night! Why not?
the results of the mystery bomb did not shine down on me as i didnt recieve any kind of item from it.
Oh right, obviousness time.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but someone said they had one-shot bulletproof as an item, did they not? If it's still in the game, it needs to be claimed ASAP.
The major hitch in this logic is that Mode claimed that I took an action but was blocked, whereas Purvis said that no action was taken at all! Of note is that Mode claimed my action after I did, whereas Purvis claimed before Slaves! Purvis, clarification on the double!
Last, while Mode still holds the Roleblock gun Mode-one-of-two-scum can ensure that all kills go through N4 (i.e. by blocking me) and bring about the end of the game before getting held accountable! The previous statement is not Red Truth only because it is possible for Slaves to redirect Mode and can be expected to do so if somehow they have differing alignments and both are alive at the end of the day. The chance of this happening is fairly small but worth mentioning.
Small problem with the Death resistance Item, that person wouldnt be able to speak if he/she did resist death last night, he/she would only be able to vote and unvote
Mode claimed you were roleblocked on the night she watched you, IE N2, not the prior night. So Purvis can't say if any action was taken at all since he didn't have the invisibility cloak back then; this was just my clearing your alibi for prior nights.Clarification.
By the way, I'd like to mention that I still have Death Resistance.^^^^As in I remember hearing someone else talking about a one-shot bulletproof that wasn't this. I might be wrong though.
3. With scum being required to kill and no kill forthcoming, my roleblock on Valentia in these lights is successful, and it seems we have further evidence.Yes we do, but it's not in your favor given Purvis' corroboration.
Clarification.
On D3 I claimed that I was blocked N2. Then you claimed that I was blocked N2.
On D4 Purvis claimed Slaves took no action N3. Then Purvis claimed that he took no action N3.
You would also be able to answer whether Purvis would know if his target was blocked or merely didn't take any action.
3. With scum being required to kill and no kill forthcoming, my roleblock on Valentia in these lights is successful, and it seems we have further evidence.
well thats what it does but the real name for it is "Hoboverlord"
##Unvote: Valentia
That is indeed the name of my role.
Kneejerk move is to vote Mode but with so many earth-shattering posts apparently on their way I guess I might as well wait.
Uh Wrong, my role worked perfectly fine last night
You, myself, or Slaves
Long TMIpost coming tonight, hopefully. I'm trying to deduce what circumstances would lead to a disappearing Roleblock AND a disappearing kill in light of knowing that I was targeted by an unclaimed action last night.
One thing that would help me get there - which any of you can answer, hopefully - is knowing whether people can use multiple actions at once overnight. For instance, would it be possible for Valentia to use Item Identifier and whatever her claimed action was at the same time? I have a similar question about the scumkill (whether a given scummerson can kill and perform other actions at night) but I think the mod has to answer that.
The thing about the Purvis case is that if he was scum, I would see no reason for him to out or even target me at all today; it dramatically reduces the chance of him surviving; with all the role flying about and people getting role-confirmed left and right. His actions throughout the game seem to be town, after being the prime mover of several coherent cases, and thus I'm not really buying into lynching him today.
What did I find that raised red flags out of you? The biggest was your actions on D1. Post #65 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7309.msg457799.html#msg457799) and post #69, you pressure Mode and chastise Pesco for not reading the mod's post saying multiple newbies, and say that 'this is not the sign of a person who reads'. Your next post in #91 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7309.msg458668.html#msg458668) comes after serious bandwagons have formed on Pesco and Kilga. Look at post 65. Now at post 91. Now back to me. Purvis says that he's jumping onto Pesco's wagon "for all the reason I stated prior,", as if you suspected him all along. However, the ONLY comment you made about him prior was that he was not someone who reads, and that he needed to step up his game. I find this a scummy exaggeration.
D2, you express a general discontent towards the idea of TranceScum in both #116 and [rl=http://]#173 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7309.msg461011.html#msg461011), with the latter post standing out as being especially wishywashy. And on D3 after I dropped the bombshell, you hung back until it was pretty clear that Trance dug his own grave. Val's premature hammer was annoying, but I realized it was only possible because both my and your vote were on Trance. Your reasoning for eventually slapping your vote down in #277 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7309.msg464160.html#msg464160) doesn't make sense to me. "Wanted to get my vote on Trance in the event that someone is being a sneaky scum and LYING about not having the bat, because I expect Drake and myself to be the top two scum vig candidates." How would either of us getting vigged had made a difference in the outcome, anyway?
I'm still very suspicious of Purvis (and also the idea of his role seems to be inherently Anti-Town as far as I can see).
The first part of this is WIFOM (Because I don't see what it is about targeting you that makes it so unlikely he would have survived.)
One thing that would help me get there - which any of you can answer, hopefully - is knowing whether people can use multiple actions at once overnight.Confirmed at the start of the game that people may indeed use more then one action per night. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7309.msg456246.html#msg456246)
Can I request that it not be done in alternating red/blue text? Your last couple of posts were practically unreadable for me. :<
I think... yeah, every night i've used more than one action. :derp: N1 and N2 I ##powerswitched and ##disabled, and N3 I used ##draw and ##pastry. Of course, it's still possible that as a stipulation of scum's NK action that they can't use anything else, but i'm inclined to think that isn't restricted.In light of this, question of the day: Why hasn't Valentia used her Item Identifier?
Everyones items are pretty out there at this point, no point in using itPeople do this thing called "lying". Just saying.
Why waste a perfectly good copafeel on a dead man to begin with? if im scum i would know he would have died that night and would have used it on purvis or someone else that night. not wrathie.
This is, however, only possible if Purvis and Valentia are lying about the HoboGovernor and Purvis targeted me with his real action.
Also, why do you think that there are two scum in spite of there being no LyLO yesterday?Short answer: Oops.
Anyway to defend myself vs modo.
One biiiiiiiiiiiiig contraindication in your master plan to pin the scum on me
My Drag commando worked last night i ##copafeel on Kuri who roleclaimed as governor which i really didnt feel like re-stating since he said it once already
So if i was Roleblocked last night how did i copafeel ;3
UGHHH i just royally fucked myself with that, i meant purvis @_@ jeez i suck at names
Yeah, I apologize about that one. I trust Donut's towniness and i'm fine with going before him first, but it's important that the results of the night actions come out before I bite. The case isn't as slam-dunk as Mode seems to think and there are some glaring problems with the case, since for one the NK for last night could have been protected Donut.
And I haven't claimed yet because its a reeeeeeeeeeeally sketchy situation, Purv. It's important that I don't give scum information about this role. I guarantee that my reasoning for wanting to go after everyone will be made clear once I get the chance to make my case.
I've already mentioned this once before, but yes, I confirmed with a mod that ##Pastry DOES block a roleblock.I thought I was talking about a Role Cop.
that would just mean it would take 2 days to kill donut off instead of 1 which would make more work for the scum anyway, seems like a waste if you ask me!Sounds like someone didn't read the label on Death Resistant :3
******I can't actually tell if Mode knew ahead of time if Slaves didn't do anything N3. Purvis said he saw something to that effect but I don't see it.
???
Valentia: Why did you want to know Wrathie's role above anyone else's?
I thought that wrathie had the item swap role since i lost my vig bat on N1, so i used the role on N2 to attempt and confrim this but to no avail, wrathie didnt have the bat nor the item swap role!
Well, um, Yes i did
Also, since you have posted your action history but made zero effort to acknowledge my question, I'll ask again, because now I'm really curious. All you did last night were the two actions you've claimed?
Drake: Hoboverlord is the name of my role, and I confirmed as such in my next post after Valentia's claim. What are you trying to get at there?
The potential Freudian slip is very interested, though, I will grant that. It doesn't help Valentia that her investigations have yet to give the public something they didn't already know (outside of the Hoboverlord thing).
I figured posting my action history *would* be answering your question, but to answer your question clearly: The only two things I did on N3 are ##Pastry Donut and ##Draw you.
Pseudo-Mylo with only one scum notwithstanding (and I swear to god if one of you is the Moriyavatar I will seriously flip my shit) , everything else makes sense if you assume roleblock + kill on Donut by Mode. She had to roleblock Donut to succeed because of Death Resistant, but she probably never expected to be blocked. The only thing she could have possibly done at that point, is hope that she could implicate Val and hope no one could support her claim or refute Mode's.
So what happened to the autonomous role steal (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7309.msg464195.html#msg464195), then?
and supposedly not using the rolecop ability on N1 as well when it could have helped town at no cost.
oh, to clear up me killing N1, the baseball bat was stolen from me before i could use the night kill so i couldnt have night killed anyone on N1
@Drake:
True, but here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7309.msg464020.html#msg464020) Valentia says that the baseball bat was stolen from her before she could use it, implying that she had the rolecop ability on N1. E.g
Donut: That confused emote was in response to you, not part of the question that came after it. I'm not quite sure what you meant with that statement; would you mind refreshing my memory?
I claim the cloak of invisibility. (This is why I've danced around the item issue ever since the beginning of yesterday - I didn't want to draw more nasty attention to myself.) Last night, I stalked Slaves. He did not take an action, just as he has claimed. (This is why I did not immediately vote, as others around me were doing - Slaves was still my prime suspect, but I wasn't as sure as I was yesterday.)I cannot find where Slaves said he did not take an action N3. In retrospect, Slaves said this--
I did nothing in between N2 and D3, as I said my item changed due to the mystery bomb.but the bomb went off early D3, so Slaves likely forgot how to speak English again and meant to say N3 and D4.
but the problem is that if Purvis got 3 bites on N1 from the same person
The mod just called. I was only targeted thrice on N1; the "three times by one person" was pointless bastardry.
I don't know how I didn't seriously consider her using both roleblock and lynch on you.My fault.
I propose lynching the mod again.Isn't once enough for you ;_;
Isn't once enough for you ;_;
I cannot find where Slaves said he did not take an action N3. In retrospect, Slaves said this-- but the bomb went off early D3, so Slaves likely forgot how to speak English again and meant to say N3 and D4.
Isn't once enough for you ;_;Well you did just misrep Drake, edit your post, and (however accidentally) send me an entirely misleading N1 result. And it would mean we've still lynched scum every day.
edit:oops
My current item's action is ##Stalk, which I believe Mode mentioned on Day 3.I totally didn't want you to be the one saying that, but whatever.
My thinking on today being Lylo or Mylo or Hi-Lo or Shiloh or whatever is the presence of a third party, which is going to be nigh impossible to account for as they could have just about any power, including some bizarre nightkill-unlocked-by-lylo power or something. Whatever it is, I think it's safe to assume someone is lying via omission about what they can do, which...yeah, good luck to us trying to figure out who it is, at least today.After looking back over what the Moriyavatar did I think we should lynch the mod again just to be safe.
If it came down to lynching the sheer scummiest person in the game, then, I think it would have to beSerelaSlavesValentia, yes?
While I was gone today I thought about the possibility of Mode being blocked, causing the Roleblock to disappear. This means that one of us one of us is lying about their role (not item) ability.
The only other factor I can think of that would produce Pseudo-MyLo given no LyLo yesterday is scumkill+2 delicious pastry vanishes. So this very well may not be MyLo at all.
One remaining question - one for Drake and Slaves - is clarification on what the Magical Drawing Tools actually do. Specifically, I don't see a ##command for Purvis's ability given inthread, and what exactly you're told about what each role does is unclear.
And I feel like things would be more clear to you if you read posts a little more carefully.It would be more clear if people precisely fullclaimed the first time >_>
Roleblockers do not get notification of if they were Roleblocked
I second this; I was roleblocked on N1 by Drake and the mod simply said that nothing happened.
Given there is now less than 5 hours to goReally? As of the time I'm posting this, there are around 6 and a half.
Drake. Were there any strings attached to the vigbat item you received? Specifically, anything that would stop Violentia from using it D1.
rather than there being a kill but no roleblock, why not the reverse?Scum are forced to kill every night. I thought this had already been established.
Well, it's MyLo, so if we No Lynch then we should still be in the game tomorrow. And I'd hate to lose because we followed what we thought was best with limited information.
Crap i literally have nothing to say.:V
All i can add really is that my drag commando role comes with the bullet-proofdress i dont think i ever stated this, it prevents any non-lynch kills on me. just thought i should mention that :ohdear:
Bulletproof dress ---> obv part of the Drag Commando ROLE. And my powerswitcher swapped ITEMS.Nnnnnnnononono.
Val's roleclaim checks out on my end. She started out with role stealer, swapped roles with trance, who then swapped roles with me and died with powerswitcher. The role stealer is uncontrollable and happens seemingly randomly.I did. Barring that Serela flipped Trance as a powerswitcher inthread (which makes sense given you swapped that ROLE over to him), this actually makes things more interesting.
Wait, did someone just say Rolestealer? Aren't you supposed to have that role right now?13)TranceTheHimethe Rolestealer, lynched Day 3 but not removed from this list until forever later because Serela is lazy
Wait, did someone just say Rolestealer? Aren't you supposed to have that role right now?Mod mistake, sorry.
TranceTheHime theDrag CommandoI meanRole StealerI mean Powerswitcher was lynched. He was in possession of a Lie Detector at the time of his lynch.
Mod mistake, sorry.Dot. Dot. Dot.
Also I'm pretty sure Valentia is the Drag Commando (with the bulletproof dress), not Drake, who is a claimed Role Stealer.<___<
By the way, said flip post also shows that Trance originally had drag commando if you were entertaining the idea of Val havingI'm not arguing that Val had the Drag Commando role all along... but why does she have it now, then?
it all along. Look at what Neo crosses out.
If it says that Trance flipped up as a rolestealer in the OP, then Neo made a mistake there.Aha, and now I catch you misrepping me as revenge!
Is that a rhetorical question or do you actually want me to provide what I think it does?It's not a rhetorical question. But then I also forgot. nvm, copafeel.
Val starts out with role stealer.Didn't you say that you made Val and Trance swap roles N1? I mean that's how Trance wound up with powerswitcher D3.
Role stealer swaps itself with Trance's Drag Commando.
Val now has Drag Commando. Trance has Role stealer.
Donut, I am getting incredibly frustrated with you. Please, put the effort to read previous posts, make notes, or *something* to keep track of this information that has been repeated ad infinitum at this point. I don't know what else to do bar create an animated series that explains what is going on, and there's no time for that.Don't worry, the feeling's mutual.
The only thing unclear to me right now off the top of my head is how Trance swapped his one-shot anonvote with your death resistance before I swapped Val and Trance's items , Donut.That, I can't tell you. The only clue I've got is this--
My Night 1 action was used to use my role power #copafeel on Pescohax to find out the exact power he had, and it turns out, he can swap items! Then I asked the mods whether or not you can swap roles with dead people, and it also turned out you can. So we may have another person running around with an item swapping power of Mindhax....but Pesco was already long dead and as far as I'm aware there's no way for anyone to have swapped roles with him. Plus it's Trance saying it, so veracity isn't guaranteed here.
oh, to clear up me killing N1, the baseball bat was stolen from me before i could use the night kill so i couldnt have night killed anyone on N1In that case, I have no idea whatsoever and I'm getting tired of trying to come up with explanations for this game.
Alternatively, if Drake could ask huh what the same questions ("How many times did I get targeted last night again?" "If the same person targeted my target with two different actions, how many nibbles would I get?") and see if we get a different answer. >_>This was my favorite post.
The same reason everyone sent you their night actions this game.^that, so hard :V
too lazy for flavor writings :VWow you suck. >:|
Pescohax -> PXMore like:
TranceTheHime -> FFMaster
I want to know what the hell was up with Sana's role. Was he a third party or what? Why didn't my item work on him? And why did his power work when the time stamps he used were out of order?The order the words were said in real time didn't matter.
And why did his power work when the time stamps he used were out of order?
4) Please keep your co-mod informed of everything so we don't get players wondering if they need to ask both mods for varying answers.I seriously would not have been able to properly answer the question Kurumunut mentioned in that post. :x
But being Sana is so much fun D:
@HoboverlordPurvis: Damn you. You should have just continued your string of in character posts. They made early game for me.Agreed.
@Kuruminut: Please never entertain the thoughts of "utility lynches", especially not during MyLo. It was rather frustrating for us graveyarders to see. Also, please don't take offence to the charicatures I made in QuickTopic Graveyard, I meant no offence.I'm not going to read the QT and I already don't blame you for what you said. I don't want to spend this post apologizing, especially after a flawless win, but etc.
I (...) dislike the modding.:<
Note to newbies: You gotta be reading posts more and posting reasons with your votes more. zwlda in particular, since you were actually town. It was pretty frustrating to watch you disappear for long periods of time and return with little information that didn't look like you had read much of the topic in your absence. I will certainly grant you first game jitters, as long as you're willing to use this as a learning experience.
Fun Fact: I originally signed up as Pesco but switched to Purvis after the real Pesco commented on there not being a Purvis.
Also, I get the impression Serela really, really wanted to play his own game. I like the roles but dislike the modding. Please post the Role PMs.I'm getting around to it! Like, next post.
Sorry to everyone for dropping the roleplay, Isaiah Mustafa is a lot harder to emulate than you might think. I also felt like he was interfering with clarity.
<Patchouli-Knowledge> [14:41] <Anonymaster> Old Spice have stopped using Mustafa for their ads
<Patchouli-Knowledge> ahhhhhh ahaha
<Patchouli-Knowledge> :<
<Roukan> whaaaaaat
<Magical_Moerin> ;_;
<Roukan> whyyyyyyy
<Patchouli-Knowledge> didn't actually generate more sales, apparanetly
<Irmingard_von_Stein> Old Spice no longer is important in this world.
I consider my death, especially given my attempts at emulating you, to be at "just the right time", Kilga!
Alice dies Night one
Account: mafiadummy12
Password: thisistotallyafakepassword"Sana is p.cool... but also one of them.
And they've all got to go."
You are Sana! You, among many others, have recieved a sudden invitation to a mafia game in an old mansion. You've got no idea how mafia really works, but you suppose you might as well try it!
You are a Planeteer! On the way to the mansion, you got horribly, horribly lost. You're still not entirely sure how you got them, but while you were lost, you found 5 strange rings! If you can manage to use these rings, you might just be able to get out of the mafia game a bit early!
You win when all threats to town are eliminated, causing the mansion's doors to open; or, when you manage to activate all 5 rings and summon Captain Planet to break you out.
Activating the 5 rings is fairly simple. They are activated when someone says "Earth", "Fire", "Wind", "Water", and "Heart". If five SEPERATE people (which may include you) each say one of these words during the mafia game, you may make a post including a short quote of where they each said the word, and then use the command ##GoPlanet to fufill your special win condition.
Oh, and you can also switch people's power items during the night. PM the host ##Powerswitch:-targetA- and -targetB- during the night to switch the two target's items. You are indeed allowed to target yourself with this, if you so desire.
You also have been given your own special item upon the start of the mafia as well that, using your trait of becoming lost, renders you untargettable for many kinds of night actions. Hopefully you won't lose the item, too; well, unless you do so on purpose with your power, that is.
If you have any questions, ask me through PMs on either the forum or #touhou-meido IRC.
The powerswitching went successfully.
During the night, Kilga touches your heart and you see the light! Kilga is a Townie Bomb.
"I used to like Donut. But...
then he betrayed me for HER.
He must be dealt with accordingly."
You are Donut, MotK's edible buttmonkey* in no way related to Edible! You've recieved a sudden invitation to a game of mafia in an old mansion. You usually just replace out, buuut... maybe you'll give this one a try. Maybe you'll get a nice role?
Your role is Delicious Pastry. Each night you may go to one person's room, and sleep there for the night. Anyone who comes to visit will be unable to resist taking a bite out of you, and depending on what they came to do, their intended action may fail (Nightkills will fail, for example). You can only take so many nibblings, though, before there's nothing left...
PM the host ##Pastry:-target- with your intended target during night phases.
You have also been given a mystical item upon the start of the mafia game. With this item, you are Death Resistant. If you die (from getting eaten too much, or nk'd, for example), then for the next game day you shall be a Chicago Voter; unable to talk, except to vote/unvote once per post, and only able to do even this after at least two other people have spoken since your last vote. Hopefully you won't lose this useful item.
You win when all threats to town are eliminated, at which time the mansion's doors will open for you to leave.
If you have any questions, ask me through PMs on either the forum or #touhou-meido IRC.
*Donut told me it was totally fine to call him a buttmonkey in this role pm. Just in case you were wondering >:
You were nibbled five times during the night while cuddling with Purvis in his sleep. Goddamn.
You have experience with being nibbled though, and you can tell that three of the nibbles were by the same person! Huh.
"Maybe someone just really likes donuts... ;_;..."
You snuggled with Drake during the night!
But nothing happened.
You still kind of liked it, though.
You cop a feel on Purvis successfully during the night, and discover that he is a Governor!
A Governor has a one-shot ability to stop any lynch that is not on himself.
And then you go back to do it twice more, just for good measure. Or something.
<Polaris> can you give an elaborate riddle that I'll never be able to solve due to the fact that it involves a hidden clue that possibly neither of us know
<MafiaSerela> ...
<MafiaSerela> I don't have the time for that, Sana! D:
<Polaris> D:
<Polaris> but but but you can say something vague like
<Polaris> "Valentia is a cookie!"
<MafiaSerela> I gotta start in 29 minutes and I have more results to send and flavor to write ;_;
<MafiaSerela> also whut
<Polaris> and then I'll have to decipher it to uncover the true meaning
<MafiaSerela> okay
<MafiaSerela> Valentia is a cookie!
<MafiaSerela> happy? :D
<Polaris> D: of course not because that's incredibly vague and it'll probably be too hard to decipher D:
<MafiaSerela> That's the point, silly!
<Polaris> D:
<Polaris> is valentia a cookie
<MafiaSerela> that depends
<MafiaSerela> is purvis a robot?
<Polaris> purvis is a hoboverlord
<Polaris> 8(
<MafiaSerela> ARE YOU SURE?
<Polaris> ....are YOU sure?
<Polaris> B|
<MafiaSerela> Only I know the answer to that.
<Polaris> then only I know the answer to your question
<Polaris> >:V
<Polaris> Neo, is Trance a cookie?
<MafiaSerela> are you going to ask if everyone is a cookie
<Polaris> no
<Polaris> I only asked for confirmation on Val's cookieship and Trance is the second person I'm asking on
<MafiaSerela> =|
<Polaris> Serela is it a bad thing if I'm responding to Wrathie's post with a continuation of the lyrics
<MafiaSerela> No
<MafiaSerela> well
<MafiaSerela> idk
<Polaris> :D
<MafiaSerela> :V
<Polaris> is trance a cookie?
<MafiaSerela> what kind of question is that anyway ;_;
<MafiaSerela> okay
<MafiaSerela> ym
<MafiaSerela> um*
<MafiaSerela> no
<Polaris> !?!?!?!!!
<Polaris> DOES THIS MEAN I'VE FOUND SCUM?!?! 8D
<MafiaSerela> what?
<Polaris> 8D
<MafiaSerela> I'm
<MafiaSerela> so confused
<Polaris> Serela are Trance and Mode cookies
<Polaris> are you going to answer this with a coherent answer
<MafiaSerela> yes
<MafiaSerela> they are cookies
<MafiaSerela> except mode is only half a cookie
<MafiaSerela> the other half got eaten
<Polaris> by slaves? D:
<MafiaSerela> no
<MafiaSerela> slaves baked her c:
<Polaris> D:
<Polaris> who ate her then
<MafiaSerela> idk everything!
<Polaris> D:>Forgot to put in role pms that Powerswitching was compulsive (I received some "You Bastard" pms on night 1 due to this)
Thanks for only almost strangling me.
Nobu broke the game open a good deal with his role analysis but he started saying a whole load of wrong things on the final day and I'm 95% sure he would have been my Day 5 vote had the game continued after a Mode scumflip. Really a tossup between any of them.
I do maintain that Mode provided almost no real game input at all past my death, and I can't help but wonder if it wouldn't have made things easier for you guys had you noticed that.It was noticed. Valentia wasn't doing anything either though. Nor was Slaves, really. For two of them, there was a reason for it.
For those who didn't read all the pms, Mode and Slaves were a Scum/Town third party team that would combine into MODESLAVES and win the game if there was 4 or less total people left. That's why it was Pseudo-Mylo! They would have been very strong during the night after the Mystery Bomb, with everyone fullclaimed and having a NK, Roleblock, and Hijack at their disposal.Never again in a 13-player game will you put in two scumteams, a Townie who can ditch everyone else, and a third party who doesn't count as being in the game to begin with.
Sorry if I sounded a little bit abrasive. No hard feelings though. :xAny abuse you gave me, I gave back. Don't worry about it.
Never again in a 13-player game will you put in two scumteams etcYeah I definitely shouldn't have removed two townies mid-signup to speed up signup phase.
It's surprising how little I have to add to this conversation.You were really good at being Alice @_@ You didn't have to take your role restriction THAT far... :V
It's been forever since I've played a mafia game.
You were really good at being Alice @_@ You didn't have to take your role restriction THAT far... :V
Kilgabardicheninja:Well I deserved it :V
Nobody ever said anything about having to. :3I'll give you credit, your singular post could definitely have passed off as an Alicepost.
Just remember that Alice draws fire as soon as the village idiots are all dead or cleared, and has a hard time shaking it.Alice usually gets nightkilled by then though, right?
The only thing I'll miss is being Alice. I have no regrets, this was the only path.
Nobu: I tried to point them out as I went along. The "Purvis is scummy because he's never been suspected!" to open the day (complete with quickvote) made me щ(ﾟДﾟщ) so hard I sprained both wrists. And then there were several instances where it looked like you were just slinging mud at people and things in an attempt to bully suspicion on them instead of actually trying to hunt for what was scummy.
Calling me scummy for avoiding claiming while you had spent so long avoiding claiming wasn't cool either. :<
Polly and Baity did. But you told them, apparently :P
How was it so obvious? I tried my hardest to post less as myself and more as a badass scumcatching martyr of the second night!
I never told either of them. :<
<Baitums> hay nobu
<Nobu> Baaaaitums
<Baitums> you sure you want to be implying that you're in the next game? :3
<Nobu> Huh? o_o
<Baitums> this channel is so lonely ;_;
<Nobu> Next game of Mafia, or what?
<Baitums> ya
<Nobu> Eh, I don't think it's that big of a deal. :v
<Baitums> :A
<Nobu> Besides, would you really have to think very hard about who would have picked Drake? :P
<Baitums> :V
<Nobu> Honestly, half tempted to switch to Slaves so I could randomly draw stuff to post in threads, hehe
<Baitums> oh man
I've only ever played in two other games, and in both of those games you played a prominent role as a Good Townie (especially the first one). I guess you can say you made an impression on me. :V If there were some kind of Mafia grammies, I'd credit you as my biggest influence.
I am ready for another game. Guess I should make an account here, huh?Don't you need 10 posts before you can view RPG? Idr :s
Ungratz to Affinityslabes for getting everyone other then himself wrong! But we still love you anyway.
An interesting tidbit is that if Mode was around when Valentia L-2'ed Purvis, we would have won.Drake had sketch'd Purvis' gov shot, so quicklynching wouldn't have worked.
All the townies in this game except Valentia played very very well and sensibly,
I thought u? was UK because of the quoting style :VI thought I was old-style you for being psychotic as Town, lynchbait, and overall right :V
Anonymafia format helped with the comfort, really; nobody knows who I am until the very end, and the game stayed free of angst and rage through and through. It was clean and it was definitely fun.Well, at least nothing personal anyway. But there was angst and rage. :P
I thought I was old-style you for being psychotic as Town, lynchbait, and overall right :V
But I hate the quotes here, 4srs.
Something about town benefiting from rolemadnessIt depends on the game. Role Madness games are almost impossible to balance properly from a mod-standpoint. Unless the mod has had a lot of experience, you tend to get things like a townie with the power to skip the nightphase (I'm still surprized town lost that game.) or games where you can have a perfect town victory, and still have it end in Pseudo-Lylo (I'm surprized town won this game.)
Is it just me or does role madness tend to favor town a bit? There's more actual facts to examine through claims and whatnot, making town less reliant on speculation about player behavior.
Also, where else but an Anonymous game will you find Kilga living past the first day? :VYet, Zakeri still died night 1 :V
Finally, I can post.
I AM THE WORST PLAYER EVER!