ISO of Oarfish/Kingault
RVS self vote, "It's obvious."
Challenged by Conqueror for self vote, responds with "[conspiracymode] Why do you call me out on this? Are you perhaps scum, trying to pin someone else for even the smallest thing?[/conspiracy]"
Votes for CF7 because "CF7 could be acting like a noob on purpose...Bah, it's not like I can think of any better options at this point."
Some weird dodging around Conqueror's question.
Finally comes out with "Well, from what I've read, his behavior seems to match that from previous games". Perhaps it's all the ...'s but it looks like he is stammering under pressure.
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My vote that started all this hilarity.
King's vote defence is "But sure, go for it. Lynch me and waste a day."
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Hikari countervotes Sky for his vote on King.
Kingault responds to SB's blanket defend on CF7 with a token effort. Involves SB, CF7, King, but nobody else.
(Serela role shenans)
Kingault responds to 'stuff' from Hikari. It'd be great if King actually quoted the relevant part but actually he made it all irrelevant with his response of "I just don't really care whether I get lynched or not". Townies just don't say this, even with (insert reasons here). King said 'because I doubt I'll come up with anything of value.' What does that even really mean? Saying in advance you don't intend to scumhunt?
Scum. //
Conqueror votes Kingault for being useless. There's a page of Conquer back and forth with Bardiche about Kingault who stays out of it until Conqueror
directly asks him. ((Incidentally, Conq lines up a lynch of Shadoweh conditional on a scum!King flip in this post)).
King says he has nothing and has no intent of providing anything before phase end and is therefore guilty of coasting the entire day.
This is the closest King gets to 'doing something', he "isn't sure" about NNR's immediately preceding post for no specific reasons given. It's in response to NNR questioning Shadoweh over her vote on CF7.
Expresses surprise that Serela is on five votes instead of Shadoweh. Why?
King's response to Conqueror's persistent needling, "Wish I knew."
King OMGUS Sky and then hops out of the game. Hello Oarfish.
First entry. This is actually a reasonable counter argument to some extent because I did say scum!Kingault voting for CF7 only made sense if CF7 was town. He incorrectly states I made a case against NNR, but some other players also thought this so it is actually not a discriminatory factor.
(Mod counterclaim)
WIFOM, appeal to authority. Logical fallacy does not indicate scummyness, however the way it's appearing seems odd. Oarfish did not have to hit the ground running because there was already an awesome claim against me from Dormio. It seems careless.
Hedge betting. I have deja vu, I could have sworn I already called this point before. Oarfish uses the last game as a reference: I picked up Mitsuki (mason) defending Oarfish (also mason) and voted Mitsuki, because I reasoned the defender is usually more likely to be scum than the defended. I'm pretty sure I burned this before but on the second read I understand what he is saying. He is asking if town should be pushing for a Shadoweh lynch for defending me, or for a Sky lynch because modclaim. In this case, though, it looks like trying to hedge your bet and get on to a better value lynch. Any way you look at it, scum would want to lynch Shadoweh over me, because when town runs out of immediate scum suspects, I'm a good fallback choice. Additionally, Shadoweh and Bard are the only two players who are supporting my story, if one (or both of them) die, scum can probably get an easy mislynch on me in a future phase.
I'm very tired so I think I'm pushing that last point. I'll leave it because maybe it's okay.
First major scum alert. Puts Sky at L-1 (And it was L-1 Hikari, note SB's vote prior) despite admitting having not finished reading day 1 interactions. Hedging his bet again. Townies do not casually put other players at L-1 when quicklynch has been banded about, especially when he had just said
they won't vote because they want the phase to last longer. Looks like a change of plans sent down from scum command imo.
Same post: Lining up lynches.
SCUM.//Challenged by Bard immediately after;
Responds to Bard confirming still working on day 1 actions and has no other scumpick.
//Sky's case; ah I did see it before. I'll amend it slightly.
//"I'm voting Oarfish/King's slot for generally poor behaviour, illogical arguments,
misreppingvote parking/hedge betting, lining up lynches, and awful votes. "
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ok I'm going to have to stop here. I'm exhausted and the words are blurring together. I'll take another look tomorrow.
I missed this because I never ISO'd CF7, but I just noticed that he
tried to bus Serela at the start of role shens (before SB questioned Serela on it). I'm just bringing it up now because I don't remember anybody else mentioning it and since we know CF7's alignment, it may be relevant later. SB (and I) also voted for Serela, so the wagon had a scum and at least one (or two if you believe NNR~~) scums on it. So sucks for Bard but I think Serela is town.
Probably relevant; we could have got a role clear on Serela today except day time abilities were blocked.
ISOing Kingault and secondary interactions picks up many indirect and surprise hits with Conqueror and CF7 from yesterday. I'm too tired to look into it further presently.
Lastly I think King's slot is awful but I think SB is probably more scummy. Sadly it's scummy mostly because of positive interactions with King/CF7. I seem to remember Oarfish voting for SB at some point after hopping off of me which is really unfortunate because then we have another potential bus case. I want to look at NNR and Conqueror interactions also. I realise I just handwaved Conqueror because he is smart and not trying to lynch me but I remember him arguing with shadoweh all day about her vote for CF7 so that needs to be investigated also.
But I gotta sleep :V
Sorry I didn't finish. For a slot that I thought had done nothing there's a lot to read or maybe because now its 23 pages ughhhh
