Okay here's the Dormio case.
SB's whole beef on ActionDan being scum because he just gave a bunch of unjustified reads reminded me that Dormio is a thing that I don't like. ActionDan has barely written one or two cases he but he has given plenty of reads that are to flow logically whenever they switch and people can hold it against him if they don't, whereas Dormio threw out a few cases but has barely given any comments at all on other players, which lets him just bullshit up a case onto any of them as scum because we have no precedent as to what he thinked of them. As such denying reads is not only being unhelpful but also A Very Convenient Move For Scum.
His response to my prod for reads is scummy in light of this. I've been reading Town!Dormio in Disgagea to see if he would do this, and he seems to be kinda case-focused like he is here, but even then he still makes plenty of side mentions in a way that makes it very clear what he thinks about the players in them (whether he thinks they're outright scummy, whether he thinks something they've done is kinda scummy but he's unsure so he prods for more content, etc). All in all, his side mentions are noteworthy because you can see scumhunting in them. This game, however, it's very different, the cases are mostly (more like exclusively) wagon jumps with few to no side mentions at all that may indicate what he thinks about
anybody in the game. And when he is prodded to clarify what he thinks of a player such as myself, he seems to go out of his way to reply in ways that continue to hide what he thinks about my alignment. This can be seen in
this post where he kind of implies I'm townie but still words things in a deliberately obfuscating way, this obfuscatingness about his read repeats itself again in the very same way when prodded a second time about the issue
here. If he's town and he was prodded twice about the very same issue in ways that made it obvious that the people asking wanted to know what his read on me was, why be totally unhelpful not only the first time around but also the second time? It's just that, deliberately concealing the read. Why would town do this?
Then there's the other parts of
this post. His other side-comment is on Two Rais Existing which is Totally Not Relevant To Scumhunting and fluffy. Regarding his main point, he just jumped onto the Raikaria wagon using pre-existent reasoning (backtrack) making it look like it's original content, while withholding a Shadoweh case that came later in
his last contentful post of the day. Like BT pointed out in his late D1 post, most of the reasoning used to vote Shadoweh here was readily usable back when he voted Raikaria and it was certainly lots more evidence than the simple backtrack he had on Raikaria.
This reads like he was eager to wagon Raikaria for an easy lynch but had to give up when Conq replaced in and switched to Shadoweh. Back when I read this post I overlooked how Shadoweh was also a potential end day wagon because I had forgotten that Serela was still voting her, so I thought that this was a town!Dormio hipster vote, but it was actually
also a wagon jump.
Add to this that there are
zero side mentions of any sort in the post where he votes Shadoweh and that all of his later D1 posts amount to nothing but a Dan prod. There were other wagons like BBM and Validon that he didn't comment on at all so it's not like he's only actively not giving reads, he's also avoiding any other sort of mention that could indicate what he thought of other player's alignments.
Then on D2 he proceeds to pursue Shadoweh again without explanation, likely continuing with his D1 case because he has never even said what still made her scum despite what happened lateD1, and when he unvotes her to hop onto the Raitaki wagon he doesn't explain why she isn't scum anymore either, which means he can hop right back onto Shadoweh at some point later in the game without much addition to his earlier case because he happened to "never stop finding her scummy". Raitaki is also
not one of the two people he said he'd read in his first D2 post (Dan and SB), when that mention of them would normally mean that those two people were his primary scumspects to reread aside from Shadoweh at the time. We'll never know whether he reread or not because all of his comments on Dan and SB amount to nothing. So he just hopped onto the popular Raitaki wagon, yup, and at this point he's just blatantly sheeping the general opinion with apparently no opinions whatsoever on anybody he hasn't voted yet. His Raitaki case feels very very lackluster for a D2 case, too, his midD1 Shadoweh vote was justified better than this, it feels like Dormio's current vote is still in the getting-out-of-RVS stage. This is not town!Dormio.
Did I mention how he keeps repeating how uninterested he is in everything and how much he seems to prefer Steam to mafia? Because that's totally not an excuse to not post much as scum or anything. He just keeps mentioning it over and over and I no matter how much I think about it I can't see any reason for town to do this, scum would be the ones to be constantly justifying their abscence like that.
Also want to hear the reason why he got by without calling attention? Tone. Nothing else. Nobody is reading him town due to his actions, he's just town because "he sounds like Dormio" when that's very easily fakeable. Read him back in Disgagea and then here and tell me this is Town!Dormio again.
All of this amounts to Blatant Wagon Jumping + coasting + -no reads mode I can bullshit cases into lynching whoever I want since nobody cares to vote me anyway-. I've been waffling on Dormio all game because of :apathy: screwing up my read with little content to go on, but my convictions are stronger now. Not as strong as with Serela but I'm also quite convinced that this is the scum we're looking for.
##Kill: DormioIf you're town for whatever reason then you'll learn to try to play more seriously, I'm pretty sure this would be what Kitten4u was complaining about when I was around last year and she said that she dropped playing because some MotK players not following their wincon screws up her reads.
This is where my vote stays. Lynching the little girl with the stuffed toy is where it's at.
