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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #330 on: July 22, 2013, 09:40:54 PM »
Just a quick notice, your links are incorrect.

Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #331 on: July 22, 2013, 09:43:13 PM »
Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuck

That's what I get for posting it in our QT before I went to sleep and grabbing it back from there to post it instead of just the post on another open tab.

I'll try to fix that in a minute with a quote

Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #332 on: July 22, 2013, 09:48:48 PM »
I think this fixes everything let me know if there's anything that linked to the wrong post or something since I just did that real quick.

Okay here's the Dormio case.

SB's whole beef on ActionDan being scum because he just gave a bunch of unjustified reads reminded me that Dormio is a thing that I don't like. ActionDan has barely written one or two cases he but he has given plenty of reads that are to flow logically whenever they switch and people can hold it against him if they don't, whereas Dormio threw out a few cases but has barely given any comments at all on other players, which lets him just bullshit up a case onto any of them as scum because we have no precedent as to what he thinked of them. As such denying reads is not only being unhelpful but also A Very Convenient Move For Scum.

His response to my prod for reads is scummy in light of this. I've been reading Town!Dormio in Disgagea to see if he would do this, and he seems to be kinda case-focused like he is here, but even then he still makes plenty of side mentions in a way that makes it very clear what he thinks about the players in them (whether he thinks they're outright scummy, whether he thinks something they've done is kinda scummy but he's unsure so he prods for more content, etc). All in all, his side mentions are noteworthy because you can see scumhunting in them. This game, however, it's very different, the cases are mostly (more like exclusively) wagon jumps with few to no side mentions at all that may indicate what he thinks about anybody in the game. And when he is prodded to clarify what he thinks of a player such as myself, he seems to go out of his way to reply in ways that continue to hide what he thinks about my alignment. This can be seen in this post where he kind of implies I'm townie but still words things in a deliberately obfuscating way, this obfuscatingness about his read repeats itself again in the very same way when prodded a second time about the issue here. If he's town and he was prodded twice about the very same issue in ways that made it obvious that the people asking wanted to know what his read on me was, why be totally unhelpful not only the first time around but also the second time? It's just that, deliberately concealing the read. Why would town do this?


Then there's the other parts of this post. His other side-comment is on Two Rais Existing which is Totally Not Relevant To Scumhunting and fluffy. Regarding his main point, he just jumped onto the Raikaria wagon using pre-existent reasoning (backtrack) making it look like it's original content, while withholding a Shadoweh case that came later in his last contentful post of the day. Like BT pointed out in his late D1 post, most of the reasoning used to vote Shadoweh here was readily usable back when he voted Raikaria and it was certainly lots more evidence than the simple backtrack he had on Raikaria.

This reads like he was eager to wagon Raikaria for an easy lynch but had to give up when Conq replaced in and switched to Shadoweh. Back when I read this post I overlooked how Shadoweh was also a potential end day wagon because I had forgotten that Serela was still voting her, so I thought that this was a town!Dormio hipster vote, but it was actually also a wagon jump.

Add to this that there are zero side mentions of any sort in the post where he votes Shadoweh and that all of his later D1 posts amount to nothing but a Dan prod. There were other wagons like BBM and Validon that he didn't comment on at all so it's not like he's only actively not giving reads, he's also avoiding any other sort of mention that could indicate what he thought of other player's alignments.

Then on D2 he proceeds to pursue Shadoweh again without explanation, likely continuing with his D1 case because he has never even said what still made her scum despite what happened lateD1, and when he unvotes her to hop onto the Raitaki wagon he doesn't explain why she isn't scum anymore either, which means he can hop right back onto Shadoweh at some point later in the game without much addition to his earlier case because he happened to "never stop finding her scummy". Raitaki is also not one of the two people he said he'd read in his first D2 post (Dan and SB), when that mention of them would normally mean that those two people were his primary scumspects to reread aside from Shadoweh at the time. We'll never know whether he reread or not because all of his comments on Dan and SB amount to nothing. So he just hopped onto the popular Raitaki wagon, yup, and at this point he's just blatantly sheeping the general opinion with apparently no opinions whatsoever on anybody he hasn't voted yet. His Raitaki case feels very very lackluster for a D2 case, too, his midD1 Shadoweh vote was justified better than this, it feels like Dormio's current vote is still in the getting-out-of-RVS stage. This is not town!Dormio.

Did I mention how he keeps repeating how uninterested he is in everything and how much he seems to prefer Steam to mafia? Because that's totally not an excuse to not post much as scum or anything. He just keeps mentioning it over and over and I no matter how much I think about it I can't see any reason for town to do this, scum would be the ones to be constantly justifying their abscence like that.

Also want to hear the reason why he got by without calling attention? Tone. Nothing else. Nobody is reading him town due to his actions, he's just town because "he sounds like Dormio" when that's very easily fakeable. Read him back in Disgagea and then here and tell me this is Town!Dormio again.

All of this amounts to Blatant Wagon Jumping + coasting + -no reads mode I can bullshit cases into lynching whoever I want since nobody cares to vote me anyway-. I've been waffling on Dormio all game because of :apathy: screwing up my read with little content to go on, but my convictions are stronger now. Not as strong as with Serela but I'm also quite convinced that this is the scum we're looking for.

##Kill: Dormio

If you're town for whatever reason then you'll learn to try to play more seriously, I'm pretty sure this would be what Kitten4u was complaining about when I was around last year and she said that she dropped playing because some MotK players not following their wincon screws up her reads.

This is where my vote stays. Lynching the little girl with the stuffed toy is where it's at.

Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #333 on: July 22, 2013, 09:49:50 PM »
That's what I get for posting it in our QT before I went to sleep and grabbing it back from there to post it instead of just leaving the post on another open tab.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #334 on: July 22, 2013, 09:59:23 PM »
@VM: Holy crap, that's a LOT on Dormio. Err... okay then. I know he has been pretty much acting like he hasn't cared or anything like that, but I didn't think it was to that extent. SB still feels like the right person to vote, but, uh... okay. Dormio is looking damn lynch-worthy. Also, I don't think scum would go to this extent to point out this much stuff. I already thought you town, VM. This clenches it now.
Also, sorry about the Condition Fulfilling Upgrading Mafia Boss thing. It just seemed so similar I couldn't help but think back to I Wanna Be the Sereliest. >_>;
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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #335 on: July 22, 2013, 10:02:53 PM »
I feel like you went a bit far with some of those points, and some of them are things Dormio does as town too, but overall it was a good read.

Welcome to the NHK might be a good reference, if you haven't read it. I'll look at it myself later I think.

Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #336 on: July 22, 2013, 10:08:18 PM »
I also just noticed that Dormio's Raikaria vote is even weirder when taking into account that Conq replaced in for Raikaria. I was also gut reading Raikaria town so maybe Conq isn't his buddy after all?

Either way Dormio lynch is still best lynch. I'm sure there's other associative reads we can get out of him when he flips scum.

@BT That's probably because I was waffling when I first wrote it and became increasingly convinced that I was right in the past few hours, so I did some rewording before I posted in order to not sound like a pansy throwing my vote in undecisive ways, maybe I overdid that.
And he should step up his game if his town play can suck this bad. I don't think I'll have time to read the game but I'll try.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #337 on: July 22, 2013, 10:33:48 PM »
I read your posts Conq :< I can't help staring suspiciously at Affinity, it's in my blood. I did already half-narrow it down to not Affinity and Validon today. There is something adorable about Affinity's half-asleep posting even if it's voting for me (adorable Affinimu is town). The thing about Raitaki is I don't get what he's hoping to gain from what's visibly an impossible lynch. (I see that Vhaltz and BT also commented on this.) It's all pants on head forward, maybe he's hoping people will see it as conviction?

Rairai: :V Okay, so every time you see Weird Capitals Saying Something Is Bad this is me saying the informed minority without using the word town as a compromise to the people who can't take the backwards wording, ditto for A Good Guy without saying scum. As for the coaching, I don't actually think it's scummy to try and pressure your suspect into giving you what you want. You'll have to tell me what my motivation for coaching a Good Guy I'm trying to lynch is, unless you're suggesting we're partners.


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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #338 on: July 22, 2013, 10:39:41 PM »
Hey Shadoweh who is scum?

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #339 on: July 22, 2013, 11:51:11 PM »
Mein gott.

but certain people LIKE DORMIO post across a lot of different threads so you end up having to ctrl+f mafia for the thread title.
I'm supposed to be a lurker damn it!

Dormio is fulfilling conditions by talking about Steam forever. It makes no senseeeeeeeeee. 100% paranoia. Town paranoia.
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whereas Dormio threw out a few cases but has barely given any comments at all on other players, which lets him just bullshit up a case onto any of them as scum because we have no precedent as to what he thinked of them. As such denying reads is not only being unhelpful but also A Very Convenient Move For Scum.
So? If someone is being scummy then I'll vote them. I don't get the point of giving out townreads when they're liable to change anyway.
You know that generally my thoughts on people is either "don't care" or "probably scum", right?

Anyway. Still want Raitaki and Dan lynched. Might post later.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #340 on: July 23, 2013, 03:40:09 AM »
I really don't think there's much more to say about Dan and Raitaki so I guess I might as well look at someone else in the meantime. Like BT.

Question for aforementioned BT:
I feel like you went a bit far with some of those points, and some of them are things Dormio does as town too, but overall it was a good read.
What does "a good read" mean?

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #341 on: July 23, 2013, 04:52:41 AM »
As much as I think Vhaltz as obvtown as well, I don't agree with his case on Dormio (and his opinions), I have a feeling that he's not able to differentiate caprice from meta.  For one, I don't find his Dan and Raitiki suspicions bad.  Quite a lot of agreeable things had already been said about Raitiki being scum as well, so I don't see how he could have added on to that.  If I had to levy a complaint against him, it would be a lack of originality (with regards to the usual reasons for voting Dan, Shadoweh and Raitiki).  Would rather vote Raitiki or even SB over Dormio I think.

Very quickly on SB, I think I was unfair with regards to his opinion on Vhaltz and missed that it changed for the townier in D1.  But I'm not convinced by the rest of his defence or his D2 suspicions.  He's not talked about Raitiki and in general he doesn't seem to be current.

Thinking about what Vhaltz said about Raitiki town, it is true that his case on me is somewhat original if misguided.  But his focus on scumpainting Shadoweh over everything else makes me feel that his side suspicions aren't really genuine from him.  Faking town conviction through holding onto a bad case is normal and I don't think it a good excuse to clear him as town.

I'm not quite happy with Validon lapping up everything without understanding despite being called out for it by others.  Same with his constant tries to have an opinion on others.  It was okay at first but he's being slightly irritating as a player now.

Sadly I don't know what to think of BT at all, except that he has the best ActionDan press and that he cleared Shadoweh for good reasons.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #342 on: July 23, 2013, 05:11:23 AM »
Well what would you have me do, Affinity? To be honest, I haven't really gotten strong reads on anyone besides the people who have already been called out on it by other players. At this point, I really can't do anything else. Sure, you talk about having my own opinions, but do realize that there's a point where my opinions overlap with that of others. I see why you think it annoying, and I agree. It's still newbie behavior on my part somewhat, but don't tell me there wasn't a time ever in any game where you agreed with someone else and couldn't really expand on their reasoning.
So yeah. I don't know what else I can add to this argument at this point because it appears as if everything has been brought up.
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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #343 on: July 23, 2013, 06:17:46 AM »
I feel like you went a bit far with some of those points, and some of them are things Dormio does as town too, but overall it was a good read.

Welcome to the NHK might be a good reference, if you haven't read it. I'll look at it myself later I think.

I read a little bit and checked most of the D1 posts so far and he sounds far townier than he does this game because he still does those side mentions. Even is his activity is sparse you can see where his trains of thought come from and where they're going.

This game he literally hasn't got a read on and barely mentions at all:
Validon
BT
SB
Conq (follow up on Raikaria never happened he just dropped it without reason apparently just like every other case he's done)
BBM (D1)
Serela (D1)
Affinity
Myself

There's only 12 players in this game and I only know what he's ever thought about three. Even if Dormio was badtown in Welcome to the NHK I could still see his comments on other players right away.

I'm not really willing to give up a lynch on somebody who is Very Scummy just because he claims to be addicted to video games. Even if this were a common thing for him to do, how is being deliberately obfuscating about his read early on when prodded twice about it town? It gives off the feeling that he's concealing his reads, not that he's just not posting them because :effort:.
It's all just one big convenient excuse and he keeps going on and on about it so that people will give him a pass for it. And you guys are just giving him that pass.

I want to see what you think of the rest of the game Dormio. No, that BT nitpick doesn't count.

Might reread Raitaki and his latest posts when I get back from work but for now all I want is to see Dormio lynched.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #344 on: July 23, 2013, 06:38:21 AM »
Dunno, but I'm kind of on the not Dormio wagon. I have been known to change my mind though. Now that Shadowrun is over I'm reading over Raitaki's scumposts in Magical Madness Mafiaand cringing a little. Mostly because of how bad they are for 'Raikaria is a newbie let's get him'ness. I do find it odd that he posted almost immediately after that votecount confusion happened, but didn't mention it. I say this because in MMM2 when it happened he spent an entire page of spamposts talking about the conspiracyness of it making himself sound loud and proud. I have to conclude that the only reason he missed it and didn't bother commenting on it is both because he was actually rereading like he said he was, and none of his buddies mentioned it in the QT.  I don't know about you but when I'm scum and I say I'm rereading I'm actually watching Hell's Kitchen or something.

I keep making cases for my suspects being innocent. I am the worst scum ever.


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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #345 on: July 23, 2013, 06:43:13 AM »
I want to see what you think of the rest of the game Dormio. No, that BT nitpick doesn't count.
I don't see what you'll get out of me telling you that I don't care about the rest of the game.
Like, seriously, why are you so hung up on this.

And I was supposed to post more about BT but I got dragged into more DotA.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #346 on: July 23, 2013, 06:45:36 AM »
But, you know, I think I'll humor you and do an opinion post on the people you've listed.

Validon: I think he's town but I'm not reading a single word he's saying.
BT: Will mention later.
SB: Probably town so I don't care about him.
Conq: Conq is mai waifu cannot lynch.
BBM: Don't care about this guy.
Serela: Well he's dead now.
Affinity: Don't know. Might read later.
Myself: Probably town and ignoring for the most part as a result.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #347 on: July 23, 2013, 08:48:54 AM »
I just realized "myself" is Vhaltz and I just copy pasted it over. :derp:

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #348 on: July 23, 2013, 09:16:08 AM »
I thought you were being honest for once. :<
I'm mostly waiting to see what Raitaki says in response to my question. I'm kinda tired of people voting me when I'm not sure if I want to vote them back.


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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #349 on: July 23, 2013, 10:02:00 AM »
Going to respond to this real quick while I'm here.

...But I can kinda see Raitaki scrambling to get around the game in this situation, mostly because I'm having lots of difficulties following everything right now myself even though I got a big chunk of reading work done during the night phase. His Affinity read sounds like original and reasonable suspicion even though I personally still think Affinity is probably town.
What was original and reasonable about the Affinity suspicion?

I don't know. I haven't finished reading his latest post but it just doesn't make sense in my head that scum getting wagoned so early in the day would stick to their case on somebody who pretty much everybody else agrees is probably town. I'm pretty inclined to think Raitaki is town as well.
What do you mean by that? Before Raitaki posted his Shadoweh case (can't look back to check right now) there were still a few people who hadn't posted and the Shadoweh wagon was still fully a possibility if they thought Shadoweh was suspicious. Add to this that Raitaki was pushing Shadoweh all day yesterday and the fact that Shadoweh had weird reactions with Serela yesterday and Shadoweh's still a reasonable case to push, if only because it gives a lot for Raitaki to talk about. At the time he made the case, he wasn't even a major wagon. Your premise is flawed.

His "DAN IS TOO EASY" point that somebody gave him flak for reads okay to me because it's true. Actually I think that's a solid towntell on him now, because it would be really really stupid for scum!Raitaki to wave off a possible easy mislynch at this point. If Conq is town then scum is just completely surrounded by obvtowns which means Raitaki!Scum would HAVE to resort to easy targets to wagon on, people are actively PoE'ing scum all over the thread, and instead of pursuing the lynchable targets Raitaki stubbornly sticks to his ED1 case on Shadoweh who is not getting lynched today whatsoever.
It's not true, and I want you to explain why you think so given that Dan pushed the Serela lynch yesterday and has actually done a decent amount of stuff even if he's a massive lurkhead. Raitaki never waved off the mislynch either; the way he dismissed it as an easy lurker mislynch leaves him room to consolidate on the wagon while distancing him from a potential townflip.

Note that Raitaki is also adding cases on other people to leave himself open to a wagon on them; it's not like he's only posting on Shadoweh. And what would he do anyway as scum, backtrack on the Shadoweh suspicion just because other people told him to?

There's also how everybody has posted so far in D2 and nobody has even given a thought to Raitaki being town yet iirc, if Raitaki were scum this would mean that their last buddy would be bussing him and that's a horrible scum strategy after a D1 scum lynch. Most of what I just said is circunstancial evidence and it gets kinda WIFOM-y at points, but even so his stubborn grip on the Shadoweh vote even with the big wagon on him makes me think that he either sucks really hard at being scum or he's town, and like somebody said at some point in some game some time ago I prefer to believe scum are not batshit incompetent.
Scum is getting stomped this game, I think the last buddy is going to want to bus because Raitaki is going down today. I'll talk more about this later.

Vhaltz, have you read any of my Raitaki case or did you just ignore it for the theory that I'm scumbuddies with Dormio? I'll read and respond to your Dormio thing later.

Also Shadoweh how is that a logical conclusion at all. One was a mystery vote, the other was a secret lowering of the lynch threshold; scum wouldn't want to draw attention to that because they want the accidental hammer (if that was indeed an actual mechanic and not just a mod mistake)


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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #350 on: July 23, 2013, 10:11:58 AM »
One was a mystery vote that scum had and Raitaki knew about that he spent a bunch of time screaming about
The second was a mod error by the looks of it, but that's why it would be a Thing for aspiring scum to point out and omg about!


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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #351 on: July 23, 2013, 10:17:01 AM »
Let's slapfight Conq :V

I was getting paranoia again but then I remembered Raikaria sounded a lot like town screwing up really bad so nevermind really. Still think Dormio is likely to be scum and I'm baffled that none of you seems to care.
Said I'd read further into Raitaki later when I get back from work. I have like 30 free minutes now because gel electrophoresis takes forever and I get to just sit and wait here.

Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #352 on: July 23, 2013, 10:34:28 AM »
I'm just skimming because I gotta go real soon but If I'm reading your Raitaki case correctly the core is that he's having reads go both ways so he could bullshit up a case on anybody, right?

That's like the exact same thing with Dormio concealing and refusing to give reads except Dormio isn't exposing himself to criticism to his content. Dormio's scumminess is about what -isn't- there.

I also haven't read any Raitaki!Town so I can't meta on him while I can meta on Dormio and this Dormio sounds like scum.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #353 on: July 23, 2013, 10:36:11 AM »
One was a mystery vote that scum had and Raitaki knew about that he spent a bunch of time screaming about
The second was a mod error by the looks of it, but that's why it would be a Thing for aspiring scum to point out and omg about!

Oh I see Zak edited the vc post that makes my previous statement kinda stupid. :V

Still:

1) It's possible he missed it because really who pays that much attention to votecounts anyway
2) If he knew it was a mod error (because what kind of townie would have that sort of power and use it unannounced) it's possible he just dismissed it as such especially since PX cleared it up in the next votecount
3) It's a dumb thing to point out when you're focusing on bs'ing a case and Raitaki wants his scum game to be better than that

(Also Shadoweh not everyone is as lazy a scumbag as you are, when I'm scum I actually take the time to reread the thread and make cases that don't sound like complete poppycock to me, it's why I got so pissed off when everyone attacked me as Endymion b/c I thought my position was perfectly reasonable)

Really there are lots of possibilities so if you want to point to that for Raitaki town you're going to have to do better than that. :V

Vhaltz: Well the best I could come up with for my Dormio town read was gut so I don't actually have a reason for town!Dormio unlike my other townreads, it's true. I'll look into him later today and post about it, but I don't think Dormio is The Scum You're Looking For (TM).

Also I'm up for slapfights anyday, but first I gotta eat.

Cut: Not really, I'll go into detail later. Also I'll post lots of DORMIO META about Dormio not doing stuff. His not-doing-stuff is non-alignment-indicative imo.


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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #354 on: July 23, 2013, 10:58:45 AM »
Dormio:
Question for aforementioned BT:What does "a good read" mean?
It means I generally thought it was a good avenue to pursue.

Like, as I pointed out in that post, I don't agree with everything, but it didn't leave me with the impression that this shouldn't be explored.

My opinion isn't established yet.

Val: what you could do is look for points that haven't been brought up by anyone and present them. We'll help you figure out if they're good or bad. :D

VM: Dormio was SCUM in NHK. His latest scum game. Also caught by huhwhat at around page 20, which is why I wanted to read it in the first place but it ended up not helping much at all.

Dan: stop lurking.

Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #355 on: July 23, 2013, 11:34:46 AM »
More small breaks. Today's work is just preparing things and waiting for things to happen apparently.

Cut: Not really, I'll go into detail later. Also I'll post lots of DORMIO META about Dormio not doing stuff. His not-doing-stuff is non-alignment-indicative imo.

He could be abusing this to coast. He's not only not doing anything though, he also justifies by posting in thread about steam, disinterest etc repeatedly which is personally what irks both Mitsuki and I the most in all we've mentioned about Dormio. It's like a repeat of Serela's opening post going "hey guys don't bother looking at me D1 this game I'll be busy doing other things even though I signed up for mafia". Scum would feel the need to justify themselves much more than town which is also what Dormio's reply to my case is all about, justification of not playing the game.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #356 on: July 23, 2013, 11:44:56 AM »
Anyway, let's see here.
My thoughts surrounding Dan and Raitaki don't seem like they'll be changing any time soon. So wasting more effort than it takes for me to remind myself that they exist is pointless.

BT just reads weird to me but I can't place it and it's probably paranoia. Which is probably why I'll forget about it for now in favor of ~lynch Dan and Raitaki~.

He could be abusing this to coast. He's not only not doing anything though, he also justifies by posting in thread about steam, disinterest etc repeatedly which is personally what irks both Mitsuki and I the most in all we've mentioned about Dormio. It's like a repeat of Serela's opening post going "hey guys don't bother looking at me D1 this game I'll be busy doing other things even though I signed up for mafia". Scum would feel the need to justify themselves much more than town which is also what Dormio's reply to my case is all about, justification of not playing the game.
When I say disinterest, it's disinterest in the players, not the game.
I honestly don't understand why you want me to post about people that I'm not looking to lynch.
For what reason other than wasting time that I could be using to do other things do I need to provide reasons for why I think certain people aren't scum?

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #357 on: July 23, 2013, 11:46:30 AM »
Like, seriously, why the fuck do I have to post about people that aren't important in my opinion?
People that I think are scummy should be lynched and that means that the people I don't think should be lynched are people that I don't think are scummy and I don't want to waste words talking about people that I don't think are scummy.
Why do you have such a big problem with this?

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #358 on: July 23, 2013, 11:47:35 AM »
Also, my apologies if I sound irate, but issues between my mother and I have been bothering me for the past month.

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Re: Town Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #359 on: July 23, 2013, 11:49:21 AM »
Of course, things are very different when I'm bored and I usually end up making a bunch of posts like what I'm doing now.
I think I'm going to remake a case for lynching Raitaki and Dan while I'm at it.