Serela earns a bucket of hate for ignoring my request for his reads and instead sticking his vote to the horrible poster. There's also how he seemed to have been fine with lynching the wagon he claims to be scum-motivated, the only one at that.
Unexciting is totally a scum buzzwordHell, he's self-aware in #320 that his reasons for not voting rawr can be applied to Dan but he leaves it at that. More in that post, he "thinks HW's reasoning is vaguely reaching" but doesn't reach any meaningful conclusion so the comment is basically there to discredit the dude and nothing else. In both of these examples he's only pointing things out without doing the other half of the job -- deciding what to do with that info. That's a scum-motivated move.
It continues. "Maybe it's just because I think Shadoweh looks legit while Raikaria doesn't, that makes me automatically see the post in a really bad light?" in #348. Serela does the whole self-discredit thing all the time but considering he just finished taking sides in a fight after noting a few times that he agrees with Shadoweh's reasons to suspect Raikaria, this doesn't feel natural. It feels more like he set up an excuse in advance because he knows where the vote is headed. To make the point clear, I could say right now that townreading Raikaria makes me read Serela's posts in a bad light, but that would be bullshit, because Serela is the reason I think Serela is bad. This is what Serela is doing here.
See, HW, this is why IHNN is scum. If he was town with bad reads I'd at least expect some hint that the reads are genuine. There's none of that, and all that's left is the fact he's stuck to the rawr vote all day instead of voting who he actually felt was off because they were big/growing wagons. Unexplained reads and illogical priorities, wrapped with a pretty ribbon. The fact that everyone feels like he's off/bad but I'm still the only vote on him is the coupe de grace.
HW brings a good point about Dan's slip -- no one noticed it but him so it's in fact possible that he has a different perspective, likely SK. Obviously not enough to vote him, only enough to point fingers and stare at him from a foot's range.
On the matter of IHNN; I don't really understand what is going on for the reasons, because I don't understand the whole HW plan that seems core to the reasoning for the votes and arguments. So I fail to understand what is *so* bad about what he is saying. We're assuming people even followed any plan. I sure didn't.
Two questions:
1) What don't you understand about IHNN? How is HW's plan related?
2) ... You didn't follow the plan?
Also I've been thinking, and the Doc should consider going between Zak and the Fighter. Zak is kind of obvtown and the longer he's alive, the longer the scumteam is stuck talking about rocks. (WIFOM for scum is also fun.)
General note that this should happen. Granted, scum would probably still fret over the 10% chance, but I'm pretty sure my paranoia over Zak is gone (something I got over him calling so many people obvtown, I think? i was going to maybe comment on it but i'm pretty sure he's town now) and two targets over one is the way to go.
zak's px case is also alright
What PX case? I thought he mostly made the difference between PX and rawr because of his early scumtell.
I need to reread NNR and Shadoweh.
Current wagon status sucks. Are people willing to lynch IHNN? I obviously support lynching Serela with others though I don't want to scramble on consolidation too much. rawr is a backup consolidation option that I really don't want us to use.
