Author Topic: DEFCON Mafia (Night 2, DEFCON 2) (Read 57110 times)

Serela · « **Reply #450 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:49:33 PM »

(Also obviously for the not-me-over-me reasons)
(although I guess the raikaria wagon is bigger but, uh.)

Shadoweh · « **Reply #451 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:50:39 PM »

Serela, you are the least likely person to ever get nightkilled. You are the perfect doctor. Did you really think you had to shoot people instead of being the one person we didn't want nightkilled?

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #452 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:52:21 PM »

id rather lynch px than ihnn but dont think we have the support

##Vote: IHNN
can roll with this

Serela · « **Reply #453 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:54:44 PM »

I was hoping I'd get the sub so the non-docs wouldn't have to know I'm not a doc :C

Either way, it wouldn't be known I was a silo until d3, at which point it wouldn't be a big deal any longer because nukes ahoy.

After I numbercrunched this turned out to be ~*~incredibly true~*~. There is probably not gonna be a day 4, so.

Also now that I re-look at IHNN I remember what I was thinking before getting distracted by "oh god I'm l-1 what happened"; his posting history, like HW said about mine, is pretty terrible D: I'll get to this in a minute because I like not being hanged.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #454 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:58:43 PM »

Quote from: PX on March 18, 2013, 10:24:19 PM

Damn. Want me to hammer Serela?

scum post btw

I have no name · « **Reply #455 on:** March 19, 2013, 12:05:42 AM »

Whoa whoa whoa I check in to see how things are going before spending the rest of the night working on a project (due tomorrow, so there's no way around it) and suddenly I'm being quickwagoned.

I have like 10 minutes now and I guess I can check in again in about an hour to respond to stuff but I'm really not going to be around even though I'm here and I'm posting.

As far as I can tell I'm being voted for not getting anything out of reading and re-reading the game other than my natural opinions which are "oneliners". I was trying to get my thought process out there but I guess its failing.

Serela · « **Reply #456 on:** March 19, 2013, 12:29:15 AM »

Yes, it is totally failing. :3

Apart from SK!HW speculation you really don't have -anything-. The closest to thinking someone is scummy (Rawr barely counted at that point since he pretty much had not participated in the game yet) is "out of Shadoweh and Raikaria I guess Raikaria is scummier".

Consolidation time comes around and you almost literally go "#vote Raikaria just because!" You even comment yourself on how odd the action is.

Your mid-d1 posts were fluffy comments and then being amused at the mafia QT interceptions. While sitting on your easy and pointless Rawr vote. You never made a better vote then that. :T

So yeah IHNN is pretty... uhm. This sure is a better lynch then Raikaria was! Not that I don't still think Raikaria is scummy.

Raikaria · « **Reply #457 on:** March 19, 2013, 12:43:20 AM »

Not failing, Flailing. :V

Anyway, I'm equally 'meh' about lynching both IHNN and Serela, however, I do have to agree with the general lack of effort on any part that IHNN has contributed.

I'll wait for IHNN's post in ~1 hour before I make up my mind on anything. Also I need time to re-read IHNN as well.

I have no name · « **Reply #458 on:** March 19, 2013, 12:56:17 AM »

Quote from: Serela on March 19, 2013, 12:29:15 AM

So yeah IHNN is pretty... uhm. This sure is a better lynch then Raikaria was! Not that I don't still think Raikaria is scummy.

In your opinion I'm scummier I can respect your opinion even though it's wrong. Any other reasons I'm a better lynch?

Quote from: Raikaria on March 19, 2013, 12:43:20 AM

Not failing, Flailing. :V

>_> The lack of effort is mostly an illusion, it's more of lack of time coupled with lack of seeing anything noteworthy, other than the opinions I've posted.

The reason I plopped a vote on Raikaria is I saw the day turning into a 1v1 almost and found Raikaria to be the worse of the 2 approaching consolidation.

I'll try to stop by again in an hour or so but can't promise anything so should I claim?

Serela · « **Reply #459 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:05:32 AM »

Technically you're only at 3 out of seven required votes, so whether you should claim or not is kind of a thing if you may not be here later. :T You're -also- in the doc/vig group and the actual identity of the doc is really narrowing down if three of us claim d1 >_>; (Raikaria didn't actually claim whether he is or isn't the doc though, I suppose)

I have no name · « **Reply #460 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:06:12 AM »

I thought I was at 4 votes, since I have BTs from earlier and then 3 people just voted me out of nowhere.

I have no name · « **Reply #461 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:07:52 AM »

Quote from: Serela on March 19, 2013, 01:05:32 AM

You're -also- in the doc/vig group

If I could right now I would totally nuke HW for throwing all the weaker players in that group, should have been randomly assigned really.

Raikaria · « **Reply #462 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:08:26 AM »

Uggh.

Re-reading I get an overall feeling of 'Null' from you, IHNN. There's not exactly a lot you've posted, and about 95% of it is just you saying your opinion of people at the time, not scumhunting, or looking at posts, or really pressing anyone.

Which makes me not want to lynch you, if only because you don't look scummy, and if we're going to lynch someone for non-contribution, it should be Dan, PX or Rawr over IHNN, all of who have contributed even less, and two of which look somewhat scummy to me [Dan and Rawr].

You've not done anything that makes me think 'IHNN is town' or anything that makes me think 'IHNN is scum'.

I've already said I'm not happy with the Serela vote either, but that's more because it looks like Serela is doing the usual Flailing he/she does.

Of the two, right now, I'd prefer a Serela lynch. Town isn't voting IHNN because he's scummy from the overall tone anyway, however town was giving reasons why Serela is scum [And I can see where This Post is coming from.]

Personally I'd lynch Shadoweh/Rawr/Actiondan/PX over either Serela or IHNN anyday, but I'm kinda forced to wagonride to avoid the noose myself.

Also:

Quote from: ActionDan on March 18, 2013, 09:58:05 PM

##Unvote
##Vote Serela

HW you are the SK aren't you

L-1

Don't like this much. ActionDan pops up solely to wagonride, but then...

Quote from: PX on March 18, 2013, 10:24:19 PM

Damn. Want me to hammer Serela?

I don't like this even more.

This sounds like PX wants to hammer Serela, but wants the town to give him permission so he doesn't look scummy if Serela flips town and gets jumped on as a result, as he can say 'Town told me to hammer! [When those townies would obviously be the ones already voting Serela too, since if anyone else wanted a Serela lynch they'd have voted already too]'. The fact he's even asking before Serela has had chance to respond gives me bad vibes too.

Quote from: Serela on March 19, 2013, 01:05:32 AM

Technically you're only at 3 out of seven required votes, so whether you should claim or not is kind of a thing if you may not be here later. :T You're -also- in the doc/vig group and the actual identity of the doc is really narrowing down if three of us claim d1 >_>; (Raikaria didn't actually claim whether he is or isn't the doc though, I suppose)

Why would I claim if I am the Doc or not? Do you seriously think it's a good idea to out the Doc D1? I didn't even claim if I'm Offensive Silo or Defensive [I explicitly avoided saying Vig]

I have no name · « **Reply #463 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:09:11 AM »

But of course hindsight is 20/20 and the reason I'm saying that is HW almost definitely realized all the flaws anyway.

Serela · « **Reply #464 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:12:44 AM »

I didn't say it was a good idea or not, I just said it's not what you did :P

Raikaria · « **Reply #465 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:13:06 AM »

Quote from: Raikaria on March 19, 2013, 01:08:26 AM

I don't like this even more.

This sounds like PX wants to hammer Serela, but wants the town to give him permission so he doesn't look scummy if Serela flips town and gets jumped on as a result, as he can say 'Town told me to hammer! [When those townies would obviously be the ones already voting Serela too, since if anyone else wanted a Serela lynch they'd have voted already too]'. The fact he's even asking before Serela has had chance to respond gives me bad vibes too.

Just adding to this; the PX thing I think is a possible scumslip.

If he was town and thought Serela was the best lynch, he'd have either waited to Serela's response outright and not asked for permission to hammer, or just hammered.

I think by 'covering his rear' by asking for permission, and, additionally, doing so before Serela gets a chance to respond, that PX may know Serela is town, and want to hammer him, but also not want to be jumped on afterwards because he may be scum. Especially given his lack of contribution so far, yet he pops up just in time to possibly hammer.

Which is giving me bad vibes over lynching Serela in general, since that would make Serela town if it's true. However, I'd still rather a Serela lynch over a IHNN lynch based on participation and justifications for it.

In fact, for now, I'll get off both and do this:

##Unvote
## Vote PX

Serela · « **Reply #466 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:13:52 AM »

Raikaria, there's only like 4 hours left, and most people aren't around.

Sudden flashwagons aren't going to work.

Raikaria · « **Reply #467 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:14:25 AM »

Quote from: Serela on March 19, 2013, 01:13:52 AM

Raikaria, there's only like 4 hours left, and most people aren't around.

Sudden flashwagons aren't going to work.

Would you rather me go back on you?

Also, ActionDan, take note, that's what you do when you have a scumread.

Raikaria · « **Reply #468 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:15:07 AM »

Also this is more peak activity time, given the usual torrent of posts I wake up to.

I have no name · « **Reply #469 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:15:32 AM »

Quote from: Raikaria on March 19, 2013, 01:08:26 AM

I didn't even claim if I'm Offensive Silo or Defensive [I explicitly avoided saying Vig]

You can switch between attack mode and defense mode overnight.

Quote from: Raikaria on March 19, 2013, 01:08:26 AM

If we're going to lynch someone for non-contribution, it should be Dan, PX or Rawr

I would suggest a last minute quickwagon on PX here but the last few times that's happened on anyone it kind of backfired.

-cuts-
I can show up again for deadline and switch to PX if his wagon becomes actually viable.

I have no name · « **Reply #470 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:15:51 AM »

@mod: can we get a votecount?

Serela · « **Reply #471 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:17:03 AM »

PX and Dan are both terrible but their lynches aren't happening.

As well, their non-contributory-ness is different from IHNN. It's kind of like comparing active lurking (talking about stuff but not actually doing anything) to lurky lurking (not existing)

Regardless of whether they'd be cool lynches or not, there is not enough general interest in them for a lynch... I think? People might be open to a PX lynch, he hasn't been talked about much.

This doesn't change the fact that I don't think it's a good idea to try to start a new wagon. We'll get into a situation where near deadline we're forced to lynch someone just because it's -literally the only possible lynch-.

Raikaria · « **Reply #472 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:25:50 AM »

Quote from: Serela on March 19, 2013, 01:17:03 AM

active lurking (talking about stuff but not actually doing anything) to lurky lurking (not existing)

Active Lurking applies to both you and IHNN, but I find it very strange that PX, who has been lurky lurking, and ActionDan, both show up roughly the same time to take you to L-1, and then ask for permission to hammer.

It's a bit too convenient in my eyes that two lurkers show up right as the hammer will drop...

Also, unless I'm mistaken, PX knows everyone around here quite well, yes? Well, maybe that could explain the imitiations... [Random Crackpot theory, but might be the case]

Honestly I wouldn't be shocked with AD/PX both being scum.

Conqueror · « **Reply #473 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:29:58 AM »

Quote from: I have no name on March 19, 2013, 01:15:51 AM

@mod: can we get a votecount?

No

Day 1, DEFCON 3

Votecount Deadline Rush
I have no name: Shadoweh, Serela, huhwhat (3)
Serela: rawr, BT, Zakeri, ActionDan (4)
Raikaria: IHNN, Dormio (2)
huhwhat: NekoNekoRex (1)
rawr: PX (1)
PX: Raikaria (1)

Not voting: No one

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
You have 4 hours left.

No majority = No lynch

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #474 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:31:13 AM »

it's too late to wagon px with enough support, even though he's scum

i would just lynch ihnn and be done with it

Serela · « **Reply #475 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:35:44 AM »

Yeah, spreading the wagons further at this point is just plain scary. We have to use the ones we already have.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #476 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:36:54 AM »

so i was making a post but then i started to watch akbingo and then i had to go to class reading again

Raikaria · « **Reply #477 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:37:21 AM »

Quote from: huh what on March 19, 2013, 01:31:13 AM

it's too late to wagon px with enough support, even though he's scum

i would just lynch ihnn and be done with it

We have me, you, Serela, IHNN at least. We have 4 hours for 3 other people to log in.

Not an impossible task, by any reach of the imagination.

I won't be leaving my PX vote until the last moment. I do not think either Serela or IHNN is scum. The idea of the game is to lynch who you think is scum.

Raikaria · « **Reply #478 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:38:13 AM »

And Rawr is here too. We can reach 5/7.

I have no name · « **Reply #479 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:42:24 AM »

If it's me or Serela/improbable PX and I'm not reading Serela as scum right now...
##Unvote: Raikaria
##Vote: PX
Would switch to Serela if it came done to not me over me obviously.