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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #480 on: February 01, 2013, 11:19:06 PM »
By the way Darkoda yeah I don't think rawr's getting lynched today and if he's ever getting lynched it's after PX flips / after PX reveals his reasoning

And PX won't be getting lynched >.<

Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #481 on: February 01, 2013, 11:21:25 PM »
wow i forgot to vote this happens way to much
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currently
town - px bt shadoweh conq
scum - people voting px
to be more clear i think scum would be pretty obvious to try and fish for a reason out of px

##Vote: NNR

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #482 on: February 01, 2013, 11:22:59 PM »
I wouldn't hurry to bench Conq as town, like, at all

He's probably on my list after Dormio (and Dorian if NNR is somehow town)

Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #483 on: February 01, 2013, 11:24:51 PM »
replacing out is totally a town tell
i also had to go pretty far back to see dormios mentioned reasons for voting PX. would like to know if dormio still feels the same as he did since then

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #484 on: February 01, 2013, 11:26:34 PM »
Sounds like he had to go somewhere, he didn't replace out because of :game:

Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #485 on: February 01, 2013, 11:28:36 PM »
i also had to go pretty far back to see dormios mentioned reasons for voting PX. would like to know if dormio still feels the same as he did since then
and would actually like you to clarify what parts of his posts were trouble?

Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #486 on: February 01, 2013, 11:30:38 PM »
Sounds like he had to go somewhere, he didn't replace out because of :game:
im not his mom idk  :derp:

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #487 on: February 01, 2013, 11:41:51 PM »
BT: Quick question, if scum is scared of voting you, then why would they include an opinion on you they can't back up in the first place?  Why voice 'logical concerns' one can't follow through when it grabs attention nonetheless?  This is why I don't agree with your NNR case; his read on you is unnecessarily multi-faceted when he could simply brushed you off and went for easier things, or just all out voted you. 

It simply does not make sense from a scum perspective, while town could be seen more likely as being honest about their reads.  It is not keeping your options open when no one is feasibly voting for your option that day.

As for the strength of his reads, they seem consistent and concise enough to me.  PX shifting from 'you are sheeping' to 'whatever, now you are AtEing' is surely something to point out.  Far better than Dormio and the like; I at least know what he's thinking about players and he has the reasons to back them up, though I may not necessarily agree with them.

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Competent Scum PX wouldn't have pulled such useless shit when the rest of his content was visually lacking and open for all out assault. It just makes no sense.

This is rather subjective WIFOM given that everyone thought well of PX's starting post into the middle of the day, and there was not much flak on him towards the end.  I could argue that scum!PX thought that his start of the day was strong enough for him to maintain his conduct.  I've given reasons why I disliked him here.

Also, scum can clear anyone they want for whatever reason they want, whether they be town or not.  I wouldn't town-clear anyone just for such a link alone.

I'll read PX's latest post later however.

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #488 on: February 01, 2013, 11:44:28 PM »
BT:I love you. Thank you for explaining PX is town in a way that is more likely to convince people then my explanation that basically is only good enough to justify why I have the opinion myself.

NNR's essay on Rawr is kind of funny because Rawr is the one person that pretty much everyone can agree is terrible, it doesn't need any touch-up because he hadn't posted since mid-d1 with questionable content, and the main reason he isn't a wagon is due to PX having assumably role-related reasons he isn't. (That's supposed to be relevant by implying we'd be lynching rawr otherwise) It's like, the easiest scumread content you can make while simultaneously also being useless because everyone knows already.

Sas-amra's post is coolbeans.

Conq's question:Given that he's gone I'm not sure there's as much merit in answering it, especially now that I'm about to say... does my d2 start post cover answering this? >_> <_<

Seeing rawr existing is cool but he hasn't done anything but make responses to things directly asked of him (None of which resulted in any actual notable content like scumhunting). Posting a list of his reads with no explanation is not helpful, especially when the scum list is "people voting PX". Still scummy as eff

Dormio is also still barely giving any reasoning for his votes. He uses vague terms like "doesn't contribute much" to easily throw his vote around without actually having to lay down anything for people to scrutinize. Unlike Rawr he doesn't have a reason that people are wary of lynching him, either, so if a wagon sprouted up on him I'd be happy to end the day with Dormio-lynchings.

Well, no, NNR is better for the lynch just because he's going to be a huuge distraction to everyone at this point until he's lynched (And also that he's scummy, of course, but)

Quote from: Dorian
PX end of day behavior is clearly scummy, he said ?At this point, it's a coinflip. I think NNR is still scummier than Zak, but at this point I'd rather lynch Zak because I can get a better read on NNR D2 based on D1.? I mean, even if it was a close call, why would anyone who thinks one is more likely to flip scum vote the other? He want even one step further and defended Zakeris fake (soft)claim here and here . I have to say that it's hardly a accurate comparison because Zakeris line was certainly mean to give a claim impression.
This paragraph oh god why. I mean, I can see why it's kind of off, but I don't really agree that it's scummy weird. Like, what's scummy about the claim-related shenanigans? It's weird, but, that's all. The reasoning on the actual vote part makes sense. Aaaand... what about the rest of PX's content? You've only mentioned his end-of-day stuff unless I missed something. Kind of weird considering you're voting him. I also still want to see what you think of the people in general so I can see what you think about the guys you aren't voting.
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #489 on: February 01, 2013, 11:51:05 PM »
@rawr:

too late

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I was voting NNR at the time because sheeping while providing no reason to be voting people or having no actual reads on anyone is scummy. also for nnr to be sheeping actiondan who was a really strong town read for most people makes it seem incredibly scummy to me

do you realize that you are sheeping at least PX (exact same thing) without acknowledging it by giving this generic reason? actiondan part seems tacked on; as if there's this misconception that townie points can be diffused solely by the act of sheeping someone town.

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people had voted him because nobody understood him. not because they thought he was scum

if im not wrong people made the link that those who can't be understood are scummy because they may be hiding behind their posting style.

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #490 on: February 02, 2013, 12:07:36 AM »
 don't know      lol
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Watashi means, what is watashi what to do if nobody mitte things watashi's way?
therefore
Dakara whatever.

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #491 on: February 02, 2013, 12:09:21 AM »
I means, what is I to do if nobody look things I's way?

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN.
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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #492 on: February 02, 2013, 12:10:38 AM »

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #493 on: February 02, 2013, 12:13:01 AM »
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN.
     it                           you                        ability
Sore means that kimi lacks the nouryoku to apply reading comprehension.

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #494 on: February 02, 2013, 12:14:56 AM »
I don't think it's a matter of me being unable to comprehend your posts.
..err, except for this time.

It's more that you're saying very little, and it's rather vague throwaway one-liners.
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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #495 on: February 02, 2013, 12:16:58 AM »
             you                   I                                                                    again
Does kimi want watashi to reiterate my thoughts on PX mata?

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #496 on: February 02, 2013, 12:19:18 AM »
Actually that sounds very good! :3
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #497 on: February 02, 2013, 12:32:41 AM »
BT: Quick question, if scum is scared of voting you, then why would they include an opinion on you they can't back up in the first place?  Why voice 'logical concerns' one can't follow through when it grabs attention nonetheless?  This is why I don't agree with your NNR case; his read on you is unnecessarily multi-faceted when he could simply brushed you off and went for easier things, or just all out voted you. 

It simply does not make sense from a scum perspective, while town could be seen more likely as being honest about their reads.  It is not keeping your options open when no one is feasibly voting for your option that day.
Hmm. It was wrong on my end to say that it was to keep his options open. However, consider scum's motivation for posting ~*~suspicions~*~. The problem here is that he chose to combine [reading me as town] and [churning out posts that read like :good scumhunting:]. Those posts didn't match the fact that he was, in fact, town-reading me.

This is rather subjective WIFOM given that everyone thought well of PX's starting post into the middle of the day, and there was not much flak on him towards the end.  I could argue that scum!PX thought that his start of the day was strong enough for him to maintain his conduct.  I've given reasons why I disliked him here.

Also, scum can clear anyone they want for whatever reason they want, whether they be town or not.  I wouldn't town-clear anyone just for such a link alone.
Since Mafia is a game of likelihoods, all of this together is hard to deny.

Regardless, let's assume that PX believed that he wasn't in danger. Why link himself to rawr as early as he did?


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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #498 on: February 02, 2013, 01:41:57 AM »
Polaris replaces Conq as soon as I send him his PM
Don't mind me, just euphoric about getting the Ape Escape 1 100% WR.
Votecount incoming within the next 20 minutes

Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #499 on: February 02, 2013, 01:46:52 AM »
Hi :V

For everyone's convenience I am using Conq's avatar to signify that I am taking his player slot!

Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #500 on: February 02, 2013, 01:53:44 AM »
or maybe youre conq indisguise as polaris

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #501 on: February 02, 2013, 01:55:15 AM »
"I just got a world record" Votecount
Affinity:     (0)
BT:     (0)
Polaris:    Shadoweh (1)
Darkoda:     (0)
Dorian:    Polaris (1)
Dormio:     (0)
NekoNekoRex:    PX, Serela, BT, rawr (4)
PX:    NekoNekoRex, Affinity, Dormio, Dorian (4)
rawr:    Darkoda (1)
SasAmra-san:     (0)
Serela:     (0)
Shadoweh:     (0)
Not voting:          SasAmra-san


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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #502 on: February 02, 2013, 02:06:44 AM »
or maybe youre conq indisguise as polaris

...!

Uh oh, it looks like I've been discovered. And I thought it would be the perfect disguise...

Well, now that you've figured out my secret, I just have to kill you, right?

Just kidding!

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #503 on: February 02, 2013, 04:09:31 AM »
:S Damn my case must be good. I was not expecting that to be the replacement when I saw Polly. Darkoda you are not putting your attention where I want it and it it irritating me, get in here or I will start to froth. (Also rereading)


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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #504 on: February 02, 2013, 04:45:45 AM »
reading this game i feel very :| now and i kind of don't feel like putting in effort `_` so to show my lack of care i am going to not use capital letters! yay

also maizono faces add spice so i think i'll keep doing it, tell me if it becomes an issue

i don't like nnr because it doesn't seem like he's acting towards town's best interest, just working for his own best interest. like, it looks like he's pushing his suspects because he has strong angry feelings about them but not because they're scum `_` i don't like dorian because he's just been really lurky and going after easy targets i.e. reacting to actiondan with a vote and then sticking to it because he had nothing else, and then wagoning on px on d2. is dorian really trying to hunt scum? i guess i have to be considerate of his real life problems but /shrug

i don't like shadoweh because she claimed scum and you shouldn't do that if you're town `_` she's also been lurky and i don't really get why shadoweh voted past me. shadoweh who do you think is scum?

##Unvote ##Vote Shadoweh

shadoweh vote takes priority  over others because my feelings for her are the strongest

nnr scum supports shadoweh scum and vice versa but i don't think dorian fits into the puzzle ?_? also grey areas are affinity, dr rawr, darkoda and i might look into them more

i don't care enough about anyone else enough to lynch them today

Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #505 on: February 02, 2013, 04:52:50 AM »
oh wait px is also sort of a grey area, though i don't see what scummy thing he's done other than be generally a lamer, but being a lamer is relatable to being a scum so ?_?

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #506 on: February 02, 2013, 06:53:08 AM »
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Woah watashi got distracted.
  anyway                   everyone                see                                                  he                                                                   reason
Tonikaku. Firstly, minna-san can mitte PX's first post in which aitsu refuses to vote for Shadoweh for riyuu unexplained.
               why
Asking naze yielded no results whatsoever.
   he                                  he                    the glorious Dormio                                                           I                                               I                                                                                               time
Aitsu later changes aitsu's vote to watakushi-sama for no reason other than watashi's way of posting. Watashi also happened to be a leading wagon at this jikan.
   he                                                          I                                                              I                                                                                         simple                                                          the masterful Dormio
Aitsu then completely ignores watashi, under the pretence that watashi is completely unreadable. Seems like an kantan way to avoid responsibility to watakushi-sama.
                               he                                                                   that person
PX then states aitsu's absolute hatred for NNR, voting ano hito for most of the day.
 however                                                                                                                                     reason
Dakedo, when it comes down to it, PX votes for Zakeri's lynch while giving the riyuu that it was "Based solely on who I want alive more on D2."
                               meaning
PX clarifies this as imi that "I'd rather lynch Zak because I can get a better read on NNR D2 based on D1."
                                           the wonderful Dormio
This reads strangely to watakushi-sama. Didn't PX already have a clear read on NNR D1?
                    I                                                                                                                                                                          he                                                              he
What watashi thinks it boils down to was that PX was looking for an excuse to keep someone that aitsu could tunnel on alive so that aitsu can waste more time doing nothing.
the fabulous Dormio                                                                             look                                                                                             the best Dormio
Watakushi-sama believes that the fact that PX refuses to mitte at anything other than NNR during D2 proves watakushi-sama's point.
now                                    question
Ima, to answer BT's shitsumon whatever they were.

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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #507 on: February 02, 2013, 06:57:58 AM »
Competent Scum PX wouldn't have pulled such useless shit when the rest of his content was visually lacking and open for all out assault. It just makes no sense.
  just                                                                      bad
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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #508 on: February 02, 2013, 07:15:40 AM »
I've certainly claimed something.

Worst Oh My God You Suck vote ever. How am I scummier then the people you actually cited reasons for? Your reasoning on me is based on 'claimed scum' instead of reading posts. Also I am quite clearly not scum with Dorian as I tried to lynch him yesterday. If you had actually read me when you voted you would know that instead of guessing. Is that the advice Conq left you in the scum QT?

People that haven't convinced me they're not scum? Conqlaris, Dorian
People that might be scum: NNR, Affinity? Anyone voting PX because stop it.
People that aren't scum: BT, PX, Dormio, Amra, Darkoda maybe
Exists: Rawr

Reading Serela for expert opinion because I do not believe in Conq. >8<


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Re: Final Fantasy 9 Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #509 on: February 02, 2013, 07:25:17 AM »
Town to me: Serela, Shadoweh, BT
Affinity, no problem with
NNR: Scum

Dormio voting me for tunneling on NNR sounds cute, considering what he's been doing all of D2 as well. And what happened to NNR is basically scum to you, except now you're ignoring him. Can we throw him under a 18 wheeler?

I liked Conq's posts, but Polaris' vote on Shadoweh gives me a ???

Dorian, need to read more in depth

Amra and Darkoda who?

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