Author Topic: Psycho Prophecy (Game Over Town Win) (Read 92432 times)

Kiva-la · « **Reply #510 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:41:25 AM »

There isn't really much to say about Bardiche that hasn't already been said. I agree with a lot of what has been said.
He's probably my first scumpick now. Because Barney is looking slightly more townish now. But I'm keeping my vote on Barney because Bard is at L-2.

Now that I think about it, I agree with Saki about Alpha. It wasn't full of town intent, but it wasn't full of other intent either.

Oh, I may not be around at deadline either. It all depends on when I wake up.

Serela · « **Reply #511 on:** October 29, 2011, 02:12:09 PM »

>V-V-V-Votecount! Swingset Edition

Captain Li Shang (1) Gilgamesh
Duff Beer (0):
Alpha 60 (1): Captain Li Shang
Saki Morimi (0)
Merryweather (0)
Mr.Krabs (1): Barney
Barney (2): Mr. Krabs, Megaman.EXE
Duffman (0)
Gilgamesh (0):
Megaman.EXE (1): Alpha60
Bardiche (4): Saki Morimi, Merryweather, Duffman, Bardiche

Not Voting: Nobody

9 hours left in the day. With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to lynch. Bardiche! is at L-2. Link to Countdown for D2 Deadline

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #512 on:** October 29, 2011, 03:15:22 PM »

I hate this entire game and I'm still perfectly fine with lynching Bardiche. If every time someone had a case on them the One True Response is to Flip The Fuck Out then you should get out of this game, ass first.

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AND HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM? I WAS WEARY OF HIM, BUT NOT SEEING HIM AS SCUM.

I thought you meant "wary", and substituted it as "this is a case on Alpha 60". If you meant "weary" as in tired, then I stand corrected but as it stands you opened the Day with pointing out why Alpha 60 is bad and then leaving.

Regarding roleblocks, you literally stated that a scum roleblocker makes sense, before talking about jailkeeper. Alright, point taken: you are not speculating that Bo Peep wouldn't have tried to block a suspicious Bardiche but I still dislike the proposal of a scum roleblocker without evidence to support it. I'll let that point fly against you.

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IN ADDITION, WHY WOULD SCUM WANT TO KILL USELESS TOWNIES?!

Letting Town waste their shots on people who're useless is about as good as it gets. Getting them to waste it on the Towniest is going to require herculian effort. Town wants to get rid of non-Town, like Scum. Or third party.

Lots of people stuck a vote on Mandarin Orange and then called it a Day. Indeed. Does this make it an OK thing to do? Fuck no. Is your defence seriously "everyone else did it so it's okay"?

So no, not letting off on my vote here no matter how much captain capslock might start cussing.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #513 on:** October 29, 2011, 03:19:15 PM »

Barney I plainly said I didn't feel strong about lynching you, what more do you want me to say on you? I mentioned you a few times, do I need a wall of text and linked paragraphs to make that valid? :derp:

I felt the case against you was fair for D1. Now that we're in D2, I like looking at other things than "cheerlead lol" and you're since being reasonable and I don't read your posts and go OMG WTF. Your main choices being Krabs and Gilgamesh does make me kneejerk but I can see why you'd want to suspect Gilgamesh and Krabby of being scum; I just deign not to do so because they strike me more as noobderp and useless, respectively. :derp:

Skull · « **Reply #514 on:** October 29, 2011, 03:22:31 PM »

I am aligned with Town
"I am aligned with Town"

I refuse to vote for Bardiche.

@Saki: I can not tell if you want Alpha 60 dead, or you want Alpha 60 alive.
Your points state Alpha 60 as not being scum, third party, or town. Then what is he?
Your points on Alpha 60 not being scum can also be interpreted as WIFOM.
Also, did you intentionally type "I am aligned with ~~the~~ town" wrong?

...Wait you're asking "third party" Alpha 60 to work with town when earlier you said

Quote from: Saki Morimi on October 29, 2011, 12:16:58 AM

... If we're going to argue Third Parties can work Town-aligned I'm strangling every single one of you to propose it.

...It is like your dismissing the possibility of "Third Party" backstabs.

Also for some people who don't read.
Megaman.EXE is getting replaced.

If I'm forced to move my vote, I will prefer Barney over Bardiche. Bardiche has claimed while Barney has not.

I wish for this to be answered v
@Li Shang: You soft claimed about communication role. I want to know if you can target someone other then Duffman.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #515 on:** October 29, 2011, 03:49:50 PM »

Seriously not? I want him alive because I think he's Town. How can you misread so much?

It doesn't make sense from any alignment, but even less from the other two than from a Town-perspective. BEFORE THIS SHIT, I didn't want to lynch him, and AFTER THIS SHIT I don't see why I'd want to lynch him OTHER THAN THIS SHIT, and it doesn't make sense for either scum or Third party to want to do this.

But a Town Alpha 60? He'd be thinking he was shooting as Towniest as could be, and his stated logic supports this.

How does that line read as dismissing third party backstabs? Because it's saying I'll strangle whoever will argue to keep third parties alive to work with Town.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #516 on:** October 29, 2011, 04:58:49 PM »

Also I don't mean to impress any sense of hurriedness or whatever but we have six hours from this post to get to a lynch. Everyone understands NOT lynching is NOT ideal, right?

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #517 on:** October 29, 2011, 05:56:56 PM »

Posting to say I woke up now after a late night.

I'd vote Bardiche over barney anyday, but Megaman's last content post felt so very wrong. At the moment I'm going over his posts to solidifty a feeling of dislike I've had since the first content post wherein he voted barney.

Bardiche, it was tempting for me to self-vote and say "fuck this game" as well, but I couldn't do it. I'd suggest making a case on who you think is scum. Last I checked that was Li, although that seems out-dated.
Also I'm hounding you about orange not because you changed your read of him from "scum to town" (which didn't happen, since you have repeatedly said it went from scum to neutral), but why you were satisfied with orange such that your read of him went from scum to null. What changed your read and Why? I'm not convinced of your lynch but Barney is town4lyf and being obstructionist doesn't do you favors.

I'm guessing town isn't going to suddenly switch to megaman?

DiEnd · « **Reply #518 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:32:16 PM »

No we can't hold a Megaman today, yadda yadda have to get him tomorrow which is urgh.

Need some consolidation here. I'm going to stick with Bardiche. He inched out over Barney. I will lynch Barney if Bard doesn't happen though don't fret.

Gilgamesh needs to read before he posts. I'm going to answer Li's question for him.
You don't need to know so shut the fuck up.
Li also isn't happening today. Which of the two wagons do you support?

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #519 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:38:56 PM »

...the sudden swing off of Alpha confuses me but I don't really know what to say (still not following Saki's logic entirely on him). I would rather lynch Barney if we lynched somebody other than Alpha but I get the impression any lynch other than Bardiche is highly unlikely at this point. I'll be around to switch to him if needed because NL is awful.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #520 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:40:10 PM »

##Unvote
##Vote Barney

Forgot this.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #521 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:42:16 PM »

On that note, if Bard is town then he should stop being an asshole and vote somebody who isn't himself. <_<

Skull · « **Reply #522 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:44:59 PM »

@Saki: Well thank you for clearing things up.

@Merryweather: ...Holy shit you kidding me?
I can't even ask a plausible question to clear things up for me?
Then you ask me a question right after you tell me specifically to "SHUT THE FUCK UP"
Are you kidding me?

Also, are you all going to utterly ignore Bardiche's claim?

How many of you even read through Bardiche's post?

You want to know which lynch I'm going to support?
##Unvote
##Vote Barney

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #523 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:52:11 PM »

-cuts-

Ok while I'm in the middle of this case, let me point out to Gilgamesh that Barney has yet to claim his role and should probably claim since with the last two votes and Bard's eventual vote on Barney, the wagons are close. I'd have to check the numbers.

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #524 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:54:40 PM »

Actually Barney isn't voting Bardiche yet and Krabs said he'd vote Bardiche so nvm. Bardiche still has more supporters for his lynch.

DiEnd · « **Reply #525 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:55:07 PM »

Yes I'm telling you to stop rolefishing and shut up because you don't need to know what Li can and cannot do. No reason whatsoever to know.

Serela · « **Reply #526 on:** October 29, 2011, 06:57:03 PM »

>V-V-V-Votecount! Barney The Purple Dinosaur Edition

Captain Li Shang (0)
Duff Beer (0):
Alpha 60 (0):
Saki Morimi (0)
Merryweather (0)
Mr.Krabs (1): Barney
Barney (4): Mr. Krabs, Megaman.EXE, Captain Li Shang, Gilgamesh
Duffman (0)
Gilgamesh (0):
Megaman.EXE (1): Alpha60
Bardiche (4): Saki Morimi, Merryweather, Duffman, Bardiche

Not Voting: Nobody

4 hours left in the day. With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to lynch. Barney and Bardiche are at L-2. Link to Countdown for D2 Deadline

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #527 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:12:53 PM »

Agreeing with Merry here, Gil: you do not rolefish. It's bad habits.

I don't care about Bardiche's roleclaim because scum can lie, and a scum watcher in a role madness game isn't terribly idiotic.

The Barney wagon has Krabs, Megaman and Gilgamesh on it. Do forgive me if I don't find that spelling too much good.

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #528 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:23:53 PM »

Alright. I re-read megaman. I don't like his cases on Barney and I think points made towards other people not named Barney were easy to come by.

This case on Barney boils down to cheerleading easy krabs case + not looking at anyone besides krabs, which is flawed in two ways.

1) using the buzzword "cheerlead" when the person in question has filed his first thoughts whilst admitting to needing to reread others is indicative of not being able (or not caring to) step into somebody else's shoes.
2) If a townie thinks someone is scum, they will try to get out the scum read first before all else. Because really, that's momst of what matters. Barney not talking about others besides Krabs in his first vote-post is not scummy.

The rest of the post is mostly easy opinions "Gil = useless", "Bardiche needs to post". However I did like the comment about KRABS FENCE REMOVAL, but at the same time Megaman didn't think Krabs was scummy so I never saw why this was irratating to him.

Waffle on orange but yet can't understand why orange is the leading wagon.

With no statement saying why Barney is the better choice in these two posts I see scum looking out for themselves here, cutting ties with the town wagon.

I can only see this as conforming with the town lynch. No 2nd opinions or any fight to keep thinking of Barney as scum

until it's suitable.

Calling Barney out on rehashing a Krabs case doesn't really make sense when Barney seems to be comparing and contrasting different people. It seems original if pretty bizzare (I thought i saw a lot of "Krabs haz connections!" in that Barney post).

It's not like Megaman isn't "rehashing" the "Barney case" with "D1 cheerleading still stands" >___>.

The rest of the post is a whole lot of nothing. I already mentioned how hating on how Gilgamesh used his role last night makes no sense and seems like padding unto a general "gilgamesh still sucks, notice people!" Scumplaining that useless town aren't being looked at har enough.

The rest can't be verified because Megaman hasn't commented on DuffBeer, Bardiche, Me, Merry or anyone else there.

In general I don't think megaman is putting his head in the game so to speak.

---

I have to leave for a party, so I don't be around after this post. I didn't expect leaving for another 3 hours but w/e.

##Unvote
#Vote: Bardiche

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #529 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:26:54 PM »

That isn't the Barney case I'm seeing, though.

Barney is scum for trying to avoid getting tied up in the lie detector shenanigans and discouraging others from claiming to be town because he didn't want Alpha investigated, and also because Kanji swung the wagons toward the orange and away from Barney in the middle of D1. Those are the two largest strikes against him. Not looking at anybody beside Krabs is ANNOYING but not the main reason he's scummy.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #530 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:27:34 PM »

Also, you do realize you put Bard at L-1, right?

DiEnd · « **Reply #531 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:28:13 PM »

I ask Barney to roleclaim anyway. He's a very plausible lynch and he's doing that sole lynch thing again.

I need to reread both again.
##Unvote:

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #532 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:29:39 PM »

Also I don't think bo peep would have targeted bardiche. if bardiche is scum he's lying about the RB. Why he would claim RB in this case? I really don't know.

Yes.

I have to go.

I'd have preferred to hear from both again. But I have a town read for Barney, and Bardiche hasn't given me anything to work with.

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #533 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:32:21 PM »

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Barney is scum for trying to avoid getting tied up in the lie detector shenanigans and discouraging others from claiming to be town because he didn't want Alpha investigated

I disagree with this. I can't stay though peopel are calling for me to leave.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #534 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:34:04 PM »

I go ?.? at Merryweather for at one hand discouraging rolefishing and on the other demanding so many roleclaims.

DiEnd · « **Reply #535 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:44:06 PM »

Li isn't getting lynched Barney is -this- close to it and it's honestly almost a toss up for me right now, Barney needs to claim.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #536 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:57:10 PM »

Right, fair enough. The people on Barney's wagon aren't the towniest around, so I don't really consider it much. >_>

Ryuki · « **Reply #537 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:27:28 PM »

I'm back and oh boy.

Regarding the sole vote, yeah, that can't really stay. It's either me or him it seems, and so far I've been waiting for a proper defense that never showed up. No reason to delay this any further.

##Unvote
##Vote: Bardiche

Pubclaiming is something I wasn't in a hurry to do, but guess I don't have a choice. Not like scum would waste a NK on me anyway.

Hi, I'm Resistant Rebecca, the untargetable.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #538 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:30:31 PM »

As in, you cannot be targeted by Night Actions?

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #539 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:30:56 PM »

Or as in, you are IMMUNE to them? This distinction is important, shut up, rolefish etc etc.