Author Topic: Psycho Prophecy (Game Over Town Win)  (Read 45332 times)

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #480 on: October 29, 2011, 01:30:30 AM »
Behold, the mistress of al evil will take over this post for the silly good fairies.

First I will reject Barney's idea that scum can't have a vig.  Moriya Shrine Mafia II  there you go.
Then you want to use third parites huh?  Can never do that, they can and will FUCK your ass over.

Now then this evil guy Alpha is just making a good name for the forces of evil.
Personal vendeta to kill a cop and then turns around and says, "ha ha fuck you all I don't want to help a town as awful as this, even when I think this other guy really is scum."
I mean damn, even I wouldn't do something like that.

As lovely as the Barney wagon is, I can see no reason to let this thing live. 
##Unvote:
##Vote: Alpha 60


Li, you said DuffBeer was who you neighborized last night and were in contact with?

Den-O

  • Plat Form
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #481 on: October 29, 2011, 01:31:13 AM »
The fuck? I'm eating before I go and I see this.

Long Story short personal reason: Gotta help my dad work while my mom goes away to take care of my brother while he's recovering from back surgery.

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #482 on: October 29, 2011, 01:32:54 AM »
@Duffman: I already said something about it. I just didn't say that much. I said that Alpha is now my number one suspect for obvious reasons.
But I might just vote Alpha now. Because there is literally no town intent at all in his actions.

Okay I juust got cut by Merryweather who is lolwut with that green colour. I was going to vote for Alpha but I might hold off for a little while longer now.
Cut again by Bard

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #483 on: October 29, 2011, 01:33:20 AM »
>V-V-V-Votecount!  Highly Evil Edition

Captain Li Shang (2) Bardiche, Gilgamesh
Duff Beer (0):
Alpha 60 (4): Duffman, Captain Li Shang, Saki Morimi, Merryweather
Saki Morimi (0)
Merryweather (0)
Mr.Krabs (1): Barney
Barney (2): Mr. Krabs, Megaman.EXE
Duffman (0)
Gilgamesh (0):
Megaman.EXE (1): Alpha60
Bardiche (0):

Not Voting: Nobody

21.5 hours left in the day. With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to lynch. Alpha60 is at L-2. Link to Countdown for D2 Deadline
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Punch Hopper

  • Punch Hopper
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #484 on: October 29, 2011, 01:43:30 AM »
No, I'm neighbors with Duffman for today. I misread Alpha's vigpost.

Faiz

  • Faiz
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #485 on: October 29, 2011, 01:43:47 AM »
##Eat Fire Ants

This is my bah post.

Kick Hopper

  • Kick Hopper
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #486 on: October 29, 2011, 01:52:39 AM »
Actually I visiting a friend's dorm.  I actually saw Duffbeer post that the yellow pill was a truth serum when I was there.  I was overjoyed.  After my 3-hour train ride home, I saw that he said it wasn't taking effect yet.  That's when I got angry.

Now then.  I'm pretty sure somebody had to say "I am aligned with town."  which looks like a cop claim in thread, which already makes him a target.  so what if the pills are declared publically?  His response to me going to vig him D1 was "I'd rather claim by D2".  I gave him his day.  I asked for his claim.  "Eat the yellow one!"  Eaten.  OH oops, you'll get copped by D3.   It looked like scum stalling. 

As for the rolecop.  Ah, usually actions go through the night even if the person is killed.  I highly doubt Kanji's N1 result was sitting in the inbox and was more like.. i dunno.. made known to the scum QT through the mod.

His refusal to comply with a full-claim and his cop choice and explanation "people who are my top scum choices should be lynched, not copped" made no sense as town.  That's why I vigged.   


Kick Hopper

  • Kick Hopper
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #487 on: October 29, 2011, 01:53:26 AM »
Also Merryweather is scum.

Kick Hopper

  • Kick Hopper
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #488 on: October 29, 2011, 01:55:20 AM »
Actually no.
That was a knee-jerk reaction.

Megaman still scum. 

I am not sure who the other is.

W

  • Heat Joker
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #489 on: October 29, 2011, 02:13:33 AM »
Why won't you people let me have my private quicktopics? Nosy faeries. >:<
Yes, I've been chatting with Li and he seems like a fine upstanding townie. I'll ignore the threat of karma when I say that. <.<
I'm proud of Mr. Krubs for actually reading people's posts with votes in them before voting.

Can someone find me a link to a game where the rolecop results were posting in the scum quicktopic by the moderator? I'm pretty sure this has never happened before. As for why knowing what the pills do matters, of course it matters.  Scum already have a pile of information. Confirming to them what town has helps them more then it helps a bunch of town that don't need to know.

His explanation for the copping is amusingly similar to an argument in CotA about roleblocking secondary targets instead of main ones. I wonder if he's feeling the karma. I imagine since he was going to be CONFIRMED TOWN he didn't feel like he needed to comply. And he shouldn't have. The thing about cops claims is you WAIT FOR THE RESULT. It's not like we're in LYLO, it's Day 2 and we had a scum kill. You over-reacted and killed a Jack of all Trades with a confirmable roleclaim.

Kick Hopper

  • Kick Hopper
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #490 on: October 29, 2011, 02:29:30 AM »
"You over-reacted"

Possibly, but I gave him an ultimatum .  If he was a cop, why would he still refuse to tell about the other two pills when I said I WAS GOING TO VIG HIM OTHERWISE.  He'd lose the cop claim.  The entire time he didn't seem to give a damn about the fates of the red/blue pills.  I was thinking he might have been bulletproof or something.  It was mind-boggling.  I stuck to my guns and I don't regret it.  If you can look me in the eye and say that Duffbeer played his role as a townie should I'd be amazed. 

I'll summarize a Megaman case, but it basically boils down to being out of the loop and throwing out weak stances.  And gut.  Because my gut is amazing.  Now I want to do other things with my spiffy new computer.

Kick Hopper

  • Kick Hopper
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #491 on: October 29, 2011, 02:30:34 AM »
Also I'm pretty sure a game like that exists where a scum's action results were conveyed to the scum QT even though that scum died.  I'll see if I can find it.

Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #492 on: October 29, 2011, 03:04:09 AM »
Ugh, you know what, fuckit.

##Unvote

Call me tap-fucking-dancing crazy, but I believe Alpha 60 to have acted LIKE A MORON but not a scum-minded moron. His rationale holds up and SHUT UP I'LL ACCEPT IT IF HE FLIPS SCUM. Shut up.

This game has me all sorts of :PSYDUCK: and a post-game discussion regarding Alpha 60's actions can be facilitated, but I do not, repeat, DO NOT think that Alpha 60 acted as someone who feared the Cop result.

So I'm going back to what I was doing before. HEY BARD!

##Vote: Bardiche

I don't like:
- His constant excuses for inactivity, which seem to excuse the brief content of his posts except he never really makes up for any of this.
- I don't like his case on Li, especially if you consider he himself quickhammered someone he thought was Town with no warning whatsoever, cutting short any further possibility for discussion. "It was fun" does not an excuse make, nor does single-handedly deciding that discussion was dead 40 minutes before deadline.
- Hypocrisy in above that he's not looking much into the NK, yet speculates Alpha 60 would've been the NK.
- The above post also contains a quick case against Alpha 60, but no accompanying vote. He doesn't mention Alpha 60 again at all either.
- His logic for Scum Roleblocker is silly; he's saying Bo Peep couldn't possibly have intended to roleblock more than protect, and that Bo Peep was therefore not seeing him as scum.
- He advices a kill on Gilgamesh under the pretense of connections. Ladies and gentlemen, Gilgamesh has done all of zilch. What connections? That he later argues you can use Day Vigs on useless people further seems to imply he didn't want Alpha 60 to shoot scum: he wanted to shoot "useless people". He also can't make up his mind on if Gilgamesh is scum or is useless that focusing on him is pointless.
- I re-iterate that he at one hand agreed to Krabs case, then later "reboots logic" on Krabs and further doesn't mention him.
- He stays on Mandarin Orange all day to the point of NOT VOTING ANYONE ELSE, and leaves it at that for scumhunting.

tl;dr he's done some scummy shit so let's lynch him.

Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #493 on: October 29, 2011, 03:09:41 AM »
Also, why Alpha 60's logic checks out: because it utterly doesn't check out for any scum or third party acting under the optimum results movement.

Please consider:
If he's scum:
- Killing Duff Beer at Night is obviously the superior choice in addition to killing someone Town wants dead but isn't scum. This is still a net gain fo +1 with the Day Vig.
- Killing Duff Beer now would immediately get him suspicious and make people want to lynch him. REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK, you do NOT want to be the centre of attention as scum.

If he's third party:
- See above, except he LOSES THE GAME WHEN HE DIES, so he'd be acting more preservation-minded. He is not acting preservation minded.

tl;dr.

Alpha 60 does not, DOES NOT, make sense as scum OR third party to me and so I REFUSE to kill him at this juncture, regardless of how much I think he is a piss off for doing what he did. He does not make sense as Town either, but I like him as Town a whole lot better than non-Town who randomly decides to make people look at him a lot by pulling Stupid Move #112.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #494 on: October 29, 2011, 03:58:13 AM »
Hmmm.

Good enough for me, (who the fuck told you to talk Malificent?)  Alpha's explainations for this are just bad play and I'm willing to roll with it for today since he's acting town again. 
##Unvote:
##Vote: Bardiche


I buy this case all the way as he supports it and would love you all to BW Bardiche. 

Barney has been fucking with bad logic and being bad all day but it feels just too strange for me to honestly say "This is scum being glaringly obvscum."  Even if he's trying to do that end the day being the sole supporter of his lynch thing again.  Krabs ain't happenin', who's the scum now?
This is aided by the fact that I don't like some people on his wagon, (Hi Megaman, I'm going to kill you tomorrow since you don't listen to a damn word I say) and this Bardiche one is really something.  I know I defended Bard with his case thing against Li but I'm feeling better about Li since now that he's revealed his partner and think they are both town.
So let's just get the scum lynch of today rolling.

W

  • Heat Joker
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #495 on: October 29, 2011, 04:04:16 AM »
God damnit.

##Unvote
##Vote: Bardiche


Duffman isn't sure he agrees with your logic on Bardiche but he reluctantly agrees about Alpha. Duffman is getting extremely good sensations from his last few posts. Duffman is still angry and isn't going to share any of his booze with Alpha. YOU DON'T DESERVE ANY DUFF BEER.  Li is a much manlier drinking partner.

Bardiche's contributions to today has been to go hey guys what's going on? and leave.
Gilgamesh's contributions to today have been lol wait there aren't any.
Megaman's contrib(ry

That and Barney and Krabs.. both of them refused to post they were aligned with town..
oh my god why did you shoot the cop aaaaaaaaaaa
EVERYONE IS SCUM!

Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #496 on: October 29, 2011, 04:05:25 AM »
Quote
EVERYONE IS SCUM!

WELCOME. TO. MY. GODDAMN. LIFE.

Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #497 on: October 29, 2011, 04:07:18 AM »
Also, with whose logic? Merryweather's or mine?

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #498 on: October 29, 2011, 04:11:36 AM »
I was never asked to post "I am alinged with the twon".

W

  • Heat Joker
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #499 on: October 29, 2011, 04:14:00 AM »
^Saki, I was posting before I was cut by meddling faeries.
Krabs, it doesn't matter if you were never asked. You should be happy to do it anyways. Say it not with me. <^_^>
I AM ALIGNED WITH THE TOWN
I AM THE TOWN, IT'S ME!


Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #500 on: October 29, 2011, 04:16:53 AM »
18 hours until end of day. I am going to sleep, and when I return I am hoping we do NOT have ninja hammers and we DO have the following:

- Gilgamesh making an honest to fucking hell post detailing who he finds scum and why.
- Megaman making an honest to fucking hell post detailing why Barney is the scums.
- Bardiche deigning to respond to the votes leveled at him.
- Barney elaborating who is scum beside Mr Krabs, and/or why Mr Krabs is the SUPERIOR choice regarding all of this.
- Duffman getting over the loss of his goddamn beer and Merryweather stopping with the glow effects forever because holy hell I do not want to read that again.

OK? And when we get all these things, Saki will be happy. Saki might even smile like her avatar shows.

If we don't get all these things, well. Saki won't be happy. Saki likes being happy, so please fulfill her reasonable requests, or else provide a reasonable excuse at your nearest opportunity on why you failed to comply.

Merryweather and Duffman may ignore it, simply because it's more of a joke request than a real one. K? K.



Cut. OK Duffman, what about my Bardiche logic do you find off, and why do you vote him in spite of that? Let's have a discussion about that since NO ONE GODDAMN ELSE IS DISCUSSING ANYFUCKINGTHING.

Also, remember there is a goddamn Mime according to Gilgamesh, and two of his three roles are confirmed either by death or by claim, so that leaves the Mime unaccounted for. It may be able to mimick Duff Beer's powers and if so I hope to fucking god that person's town-aligned.

Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #501 on: October 29, 2011, 04:17:17 AM »
IOW, posting
"I am aligned with the Town."
isn't so crazy an idea.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #502 on: October 29, 2011, 04:22:13 AM »
See, even Saki has reason to hate that bitch. :P

I am aligned with the town.

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #503 on: October 29, 2011, 04:30:52 AM »
Megaman.EXE has asked for a replacement.
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

W

  • Heat Joker
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #504 on: October 29, 2011, 04:32:49 AM »
Duff Beer for me~
Duff Beer for you~
I'll have a Duff~
You have one too~


This day started with what was it, five votes on Bardiche? It feels like we're going in circles. Process of Elimination says that if we hold firm with the townie voting block townies and eliminate the non-town reads we'll win by numbers. Bardiche is more guilty by virtue of being here and saying nothing. The other two at least have the excuse of being absent. Though my patience wanes. I SURE WISH WE HAD A VIG TO SHORT THAT OUT sgjnmdsgmsdfjkg

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #505 on: October 29, 2011, 04:44:41 AM »
I am aligned with the town.

Kick Hopper

  • Kick Hopper
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #506 on: October 29, 2011, 04:46:18 AM »
I am aligned with town.

Yeah so Saki is town and no longer unreadable as ever.   Still not exactly in the mood to post, but I figured I might as well refresh that.  Oh, and ya Li looking town.  I know I'm gonna be called "cop-shooter" for a while but I will stand by my decision to vig Duffbeer for as long as this game lasts. 

W

  • Heat Joker
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #507 on: October 29, 2011, 07:26:06 AM »
Mrr. Some quick math says I'm not going to be here for the deadline. Unless I master teleportation. We'll see how that goes. Closing thoughts: Li Shang and Saki are bros on the townie express. Merryweather is still town. Alpha is riding in the coach. Krabs is kind of dangling on the back of the caboose going WHEEE! STAY TOGETHER TOWNIES AND WE WILL MAKE IT TO THE LIGHT!

Den-O

  • Plat Form
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #508 on: October 29, 2011, 07:29:49 AM »
I'm back and WTF

First off, this bullshit
Quote
Are you just leaving because you're not the lynch target anymore?
Remind me to bash your face in after this game for asking another retarded question towards me. This is a stupid question and I should not have answered it in the first place if not for the fact that it pissed me off.

Quote
I don't like:
- His constant excuses for inactivity, which seem to excuse the brief content of his posts except he never really makes up for any of this.
- I don't like his case on Li, especially if you consider he himself quickhammered someone he thought was Town with no warning whatsoever, cutting short any further possibility for discussion. "It was fun" does not an excuse make, nor does single-handedly deciding that discussion was dead 40 minutes before deadline.
- Hypocrisy in above that he's not looking much into the NK, yet speculates Alpha 60 would've been the NK.
- The above post also contains a quick case against Alpha 60, but no accompanying vote. He doesn't mention Alpha 60 again at all either.
- His logic for Scum Roleblocker is silly; he's saying Bo Peep couldn't possibly have intended to roleblock more than protect, and that Bo Peep was therefore not seeing him as scum.
- He advices a kill on Gilgamesh under the pretense of connections. Ladies and gentlemen, Gilgamesh has done all of zilch. What connections? That he later argues you can use Day Vigs on useless people further seems to imply he didn't want Alpha 60 to shoot scum: he wanted to shoot "useless people". He also can't make up his mind on if Gilgamesh is scum or is useless that focusing on him is pointless.
- I re-iterate that he at one hand agreed to Krabs case, then later "reboots logic" on Krabs and further doesn't mention him.
- He stays on Mandarin Orange all day to the point of NOT VOTING ANYONE ELSE, and leaves it at that for scumhunting.

- When did I state I found Orange Town? Please, say once where I stated I found him town. And how does hammering somehow discredit my case on Li?
- BECAUSE MY ROLE DICTATES THAT I TRY TO PREDICT THE NIGHT KILL. YOU KNOW WHY?! BECAUSE I CLAIM FUCKING WATCHER. I TARGETED ALPHA 60 EXPECTING HIM TO BE NK'D, AND INSTEAD I END UP GETTING BLOCKED. AND HOW IS THAT HYPOCRISY?! I WAS NOT GOING TO LOOK THAT MUCH INTO THE NK, BUT I'M STILL GOING TO TRY AND PREDICT IT.
- AND HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM? I WAS WEARY OF HIM, BUT NOT SEEING HIM AS SCUM.
- LOOK AGAIN. DUFFMAN SUGGESTS THAT BO PEEP DIDN'T BLOCK ME. I THOUGHT BO PEEP WAS THE ROLEBLOCKER. YOU KNOW WHO PUT UP THE IDEA THAT SCUM ROLEBLOCKED ME? THIS GUY.
- HERE'S GILGAMESH'S POST. HERE, HE BANDWAGONS KRABS, A TOWN READ ON LI, AND SLIGHT SUSPICION ON DUFFMAN. THIS LOOKS AROUND THE SAME LEVEL OF CONNECTIONS WE GOT FROM KANJI. STILL CONNECTIONS HERE. IN ADDITION, WHY WOULD SCUM WANT TO KILL USELESS TOWNIES?! TOWN WANTS TO GET RID OF USELESS TOWNIES THAT WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF TOWN.
- AND SO? MANY PEOPLE HAVE DONE THAT. YOU SINGLING ME OUT FOR IT?

OH, SO WE'RE SAYING WE'RE ALIGNED WITH TOWN NOW? WELL LET ME SAY IT THEN.

FUCK TOWN, AND WHY THE HELL AM I ALIGNED WITH YOU?! GET ME OUT OF THIS DAMNED GAME.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: BARDICHE!


BECAUSE FUCK THIS GAME

Ryuki

  • Dragredder
Re: Psycho Prophecy (Day 2 Start)
« Reply #509 on: October 29, 2011, 09:27:52 AM »
I am aligned wit-- oh wait I already did this and it turned out to be completely useless!

Bardiche needs to calm the hell down. Last time someone lost their temper (hint: today) things did not go well.

"You didn't talk about anything but Krabs" is not true, seeing as I was glaringly trying to avoid an Alpha wagon, and Saki summarized things nicely; this guy does not make sense to be anything but town. Doesn't help that I had steady town vibes from him for most of the game. Actually, let's talk about his wagon: was it town-motivated or scum-motivated? I'm honestly getting scum vibes here, but I guess PISSED TOWNIES is an option so I can't really tell.

Once Bardiche cools their boner: do you think you can provide more content than desperate "I'M PISSED OFF" defense? Are you still behind your Li vote?

I don't back this scum!Megaman theory. He's not posted much and all of his votes have been on me, but I don't see any problem with them. Can someone show me the light here?

After this vig ordeal I honestly don't feel as great with my town reads right now. Everything got fucked up~. MW is probably the most reasonable. Although, both his and Duffman's transition to Bardiche look kind of lacking; Saki's case is fair, but far from perfect. Can't you contribute anything more? Saki himself has yet to say pretty much anything on me, not now and not when I was in the red. Li's D2 looks fine but he was never oozing town spirit in my eyes to begin with.

I will not support a Bardiche wagon at the moment, despite how I earlier placed him at second place. I would still want better explanations to the Duffman and MW jump, since all I'm getting so far is "he's the worst option". I would also want more Bardiche content before any possible Bardiche flip. This is self-explanatory.

Gilga needs to make an opinion (hell: post) RIGHT NOW. With current happenings he is probably my second pick right now, by process of elimination. And this is not a second pick I am happy with.

...

Is my vote actually staying on Krabs? Dear god, even I didn't expect this. Post what you think about Bardiche, others should probably post what they think about Bardiche, but for now I have no reason to change. To MW's request: yes, if this gets no support, I'll change. I'm not going to make the same mistake twice.