Author Topic: Psycho Prophecy (Game Over Town Win) (Read 45324 times)

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #540 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:30:56 PM »

Or as in, you are IMMUNE to them? This distinction is important, shut up, rolefish etc etc.

Ryuki · « **Reply #541 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:31:55 PM »

Yup. And as the sentence before that implied, this includes kills.

Basically I only fry if you kind people decide I'm scum!

Serela · « **Reply #542 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:32:14 PM »

>V-V-V-Votecount! Two Wagons Edition

Captain Li Shang (0)
Duff Beer (0):
Alpha 60 (0):
Saki Morimi (0)
Merryweather (0)
Mr.Krabs (0):
Barney (4): Mr. Krabs, Megaman.EXE, Captain Li Shang, Gilgamesh
Duffman (0)
Gilgamesh (0):
Megaman.EXE (0):
Bardiche (5): Saki Morimi, Duffman, Bardiche, Alpha60, Barney

Not Voting: Merryweather

2.5 hours left in the day. With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to lynch. Barney is at L-2. Bardiche is at L-1. Link to Countdown for D2 Deadline

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #543 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:41:49 PM »

Cannot be targeted then. Gotcha. That sounds incredibly powerful. I once again question Serela's balance and my own sanity for joining. Gimme time to digest that, I'm not sure what to think of it. Kneejerk reaction is WHAT THE FUCK SERELA.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #544 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:46:26 PM »

I'm reading the claim as null. He's definitely not lying, since it's a provable role, but I think it works for either alignment, so it doesn't affect my opinions. I disagree with Saki that the role is entirely OP as town, though, because it also stops him from getting cleared by investigative roles, getting targeted by the neigborizers, etc.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #545 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:52:16 PM »

...actually, I'm not seeing how the role is overpowered at all if he's town? It basically just puts him in the "complete null tell outside of what he posts in the thread" category all game, so it's entirely dependent on player skill. That's the one of the least bullshit role madness roles I can think of, actually, though it could probably do without the bulletproof. <_<

Bleh, I'm finding myself doubting my read on Barney a little now. Should probably re-read the thread and compare him and Bard.

Ryuki · « **Reply #546 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:55:01 PM »

Like Li explained, untargetable is actually a burden to town most of the time, since it can cause some havoc, mislynches, etc., etc. unless you play smart. Which is why it's usually a town role.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #547 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:59:09 PM »

... I guess that's something I didn't look at. You are right, I suppose.

Guh, I hate role madness.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #548 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:02:22 PM »

Further thought shows that if Barney is untargetable, he is essentially scum's Godfather equivalent, so the Kanji wagon swing still worries. I also haven't been convinced that the Duff Beer interactions don't look horrible, town doesn't want to deny town information. Alpha still irks me in all honesty, but his situation was different because he was affected by Duff Beer personally. Barney was just trying to stop Duff Beer's role from being used on another player.

So no, the claim doesn't alter my take on the situation. However, I'm still willing to hammer Bardiche if we need the lynch and nobody else is around to, because his D1 still looks quite horrible to me. I just find Barney harder to buy because it looked like he smokescreened in an attempt to stop an investigative role from being used, and that was really the deciding point against him for me today.

Going to re-read anyway to see what I find, but I don't expect it to be particularly mindblowing.

DiEnd · « **Reply #549 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:03:02 PM »

Cool. Gilgamesh can confirm this with whatever he does, so I would love it if he targeted Barney tonight.

And I... wait a minute. Are you a paranoid gun owner?

I mean scum already lost one to you so they won't fall for it again, claiming if you are or not will not hurt.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #550 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:07:23 PM »

I don't think Barney killed Kanji, Merry.

Ryuki · « **Reply #551 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:07:46 PM »

Nope. I'm pretty sure the PM would have told me (and I would have let you know) if I was.

Den-O · « **Reply #552 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:11:16 PM »

##Unvote
##Vote: Barney

DiEnd · « **Reply #553 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:12:00 PM »

Alright, I'm calling bullshit on this claim.

You are untargetable.

You refused to allow THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD GET COPPED and not be a null mofo all game to happen and stall it. Fuck.

Cut by the L-1 I want final words since I'm ready to vote you.
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Ryuki · « **Reply #554 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:14:40 PM »

I am immune to everything.

I did not think that would affect me and still do not think so.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #555 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:16:22 PM »

Before ANY hammers drop I'd like everyone to state, without arguing why you are right or any logic to it[/u] who you want dead if you had the ability to kill someone right now, excluding Barney as a choice option. If you have no such person feel free to say so or hold your tongue.

I find this information to be vitally important, and it is related to gambits.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #556 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:16:56 PM »

To lead, I would murder Bardiche right this very instant if I could.

Den-O · « **Reply #557 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:17:49 PM »

In response, you.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #558 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:18:26 PM »

I believe it's already apparent that if I had to kill somebody who wasn't Barney, I'd go for Bard.

Ryuki · « **Reply #559 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:20:33 PM »

Knowing this, isn't it more logical why I tried not to get myself into that mess anyway?

Remember what I said about causing havoc? How much havoc would be caused when I digest a pill and then claim untargetable? Or don't digest it because I claim untargetable?

@Saki: Krabs, although I wouldn't be extraordinarily happy with it.

DiEnd · « **Reply #560 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:23:20 PM »

This flip means a lot though right now I would choose Bardiche.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #561 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:27:19 PM »

Saki, how many responses do you want before you explain what this is for and we lynch somebody? I don't think very many people are around right now.

DiEnd · « **Reply #562 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:29:31 PM »

Barney, no last minute reads you want to give on people? You are about to die you know.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #563 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:29:37 PM »

I can't explain today. I'll explain in full tomorrow, whereupon hopefully the results of my nightly escapades will harmonise in a satisfying way. That's... yeah, that's really all I should say about it.

Ryuki · « **Reply #564 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:30:48 PM »

Uh how am I dying when I just threw your theory out of the water?

Yeah, there's no way I or anyone else is going to let you hammer without explaining why my claim ENFORCES your scum read on me than the other way around.

In theory, I have all the time in the world until you do this.

Skull · « **Reply #565 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:31:14 PM »

Emotionally I want to shoot Merryweather
Theorically I want to shoot Li Shang
Logically I want Barney dead.

DiEnd · « **Reply #566 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:31:50 PM »

One more try.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #567 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:32:19 PM »

Barney, why are you basically talking shit to the person who's about to kill you? <_< Give your last reads.

DiEnd · « **Reply #568 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:33:40 PM »

Those cases I've made on you all day still hold, just so you know.

Ryuki · « **Reply #569 on:** October 29, 2011, 09:36:35 PM »

Unbelievable.

Fine. Give me some time to type these, at the very least...