Diablo Mafia (Prime Evils win)

[W]

Good, now that I finished all my real life bullshit for the day. Time to read.

Oh yea, forgot. Need to read on Sorceress again as well, next to ones  I mentioned in my previous post. So doing that now and will come with personal analysis and new list of scummy/townie reads of players.

[W]

Bloodwitch > Was fooling around in D1 while RVS was over. Was totally non existent D1. So she was Nilhatak-tier useless. Seems to get replaced by someone (#174). Hopefully she becomes MORE useful thanks to this new player. #228 gives analysis, but focusses mainly on Sorc and Summoner. Hmmm in #237 comes back with vital information regarding Bremm's power.

Beetleburst > Wow, Beetleburst is absolutely not contributing anything to D2 and keeps speculating what the hell was wrong with the lynch voting. Multiple people have answered the question. Ah, finally in #213 he comes with a case. Indeed, the "WHY" question... Bremm comes with an answer, Beetle continues suspect. I can see why.

Beetle, aside from your vote on Bremm, which is in my a pretty valid case, who else is feeling scum/town to you. I am missing that from your D2 behaviour...

Sorceress > Makes a good point on why exactly Bloodwitch considers Summoner a town troll. I missed out that myself and want to know this my self now as well. FoS on Nihla is extremely surprising (not). ** face palms ** The more I read on sorceress, the more I feel derpness rising.

Coldcrow > I don't like the way she keeps writing, but play styles aside I can see where her vote on Sorceress comes from. Has been next to Rakanishu most active contributor in this game. Her vote was clearly explained by Pesco and what happened.

Eyeback > His D1 analysis reflects my D1 analysis on several similar points about Sorc/Summoner but that is very the similarity ends. Votes on Countess and then go silent for the rest of the day. Next post is......................................... wow all the way at Page 5 #216.

This post is radiating so many frown-able material, my eyebrows are like catching fire.

I don't like how you call 'Kaa & summoner has been dealt with'. It is looking ugly and terrible.

I echo that the poisoner need not claim. I disagree that Nihlatak needs lynching only because he lurks: that is his meta. I do agree he needs lynching for doing nothing but pointing out why others are wrong with no attempts to point to alternatives.

That is his meta? WOW, must be hell of a meta player! What makes Nihlatak any different than other lurkers? Do you know something we don't? I don't see how a poison ability is instant pro-town in this game when everything is confusing.

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My eyes are burning and they burn the following list into this metal sheet. Because anything not written in metal cannot be trusted in this world.

- - Left to right == weakest vibe to strongest vibe - -
Possible townie-vibes: Bloodwitch, Coldcrow, Rakanishu.
Undecided: Corpsefire, Bremm, Beetleburst.
Possible scum-vibes: Sorceress, Eyeback, Summoner.
Dead-non-existent-lurkers-who-should-start-contributing: Barbarian, Nihlatak.

HOLD IT
Rereading #216 again. Nope, nope nope nope. This is looking bad. I am now starting to doubt my vote on Summoner.

[Faiz]

@Bloodwitch:  ... I thought you meant you were going to be putting me at L-1.5.  whups.

My case on Summoner consists him completely dismissing the first major argument in favor of a random vote, his reread consisting of mostly accusations and comments, and him giving up on the wagon at that point feels like someone trying to justify an unpark people had been on him about instead of trying to push who he thought was the scummiest.

@Coldcrow:  On reread I have no problems with it, at the time I was looking at others and just kinda gleaned over it.  As for today, it seemed like there was a lot more to you than you were letting in on, but knowing what caused it I believe your surprise is genuine, and we'll cross the other bridge if/when we get to it.

@Corpsefire:  If you feel that Fire Eye was trying to "punish bad play" on Summoner, what does that make your read on Summoner, then?

Anyways, I am going to work now, although I might be home early because it's outdoor work and the forecast is in the 100s here.

[Decade]

Okay. I have speed-iso'd every single goddamn person in this game, one at a time. My plan is to do this and then follow up on everyone I didn't like with a case-making reread. This list is roughly in town-to-scum order but the neutrality section is kind of unordered.

Rakanishu - Still Definitely Town
Coldcrow - Still Town
Beetleburst - Probably Town
Sorceress - Leaning Town
Bloodwitch the Wild - Neutral
Fire Eye - Neutralish
Corpsefire - Undecided
Eyeback the Unleashed - ...difficult to place. I deeply read over all his posts a few times and I'm just not sure.
The Summoner - Quite Scummy
Bremm Sparkfist -Scum Suspect #1
Nihlathak - ...wait a second

If I -HAD- to, I'd probably order my non-town-or-scum reads in a town~scum level of Bloodwitch < FireEye < Corpsefire < Eyeback, but it's not really concrete at all and don't worry too much about that.

Nihlathak's last post was #89. EIGHTY. NINE. That was FOREVER ago. Shouldn't he have been sorta modkilled or replaced or somethin, by now...? There's a difference between lurking, and just crawling into a hole and disappearing forever. Whatever, please come back and say something or I don't know. Just gonna drop him for now because there's no point wasting breath on someone who hasn't existed for THAT long.

I'd like to post this and then follow up with my rereads immediately (Hungryyyyy...), but I have a sinking feeling that if I do that, I'm just going to procrastinate and not end up doing it for hours and hours (and maybe some more hours). Soooo I better just do it right now.

K, Summoner. First, #58. This just doesn't feel town. Okay, you were going to wait for her to post and then decide to vote her or not, okay! A little bit later one person asks for votes on Sorc and you just go "HOORAY BANDWAGONING" and vote her. It's not condemning or anything, but... this just doesn't feel right.

There's just, that difference between town trying to find scum and scum trying to use their vote and not do something untownish.

...okay I can't think of anything else to say about his later posts that wouldn't just be a collection of weak prods. Sigh. I'll drop it for now because I have another suspect that I find more likely to be scum anyway.

##Vote Bremm Sparkfist

Okay well first of all his #95 is, well, remember how I was just saying that differen-okay nevermind I'll just move on to some kind of concrete point in a later post >_>; 

Hmm, overall, his posts just don't seem to have... y'know, that kind of "meatiness" in them. The content that makes you go, "Oooh, yeah, I see.". Also there's only two of them on D1 and they both feel like that. They just feel like SCUM to me. This argument is dumb but AHHGH :C gonna inb4 "omgus what the hell kind of case is that" but whatever

Look at them and think about it yourself. Here is his first real post, #95. Here is his second D1 post, #149.

Also, he keeps talking to Nih almost as if Nih is actually alive. The guy hasn't posted in about 150 posts, it practically makes me feel like you're putting it in just to pad out your otherwise tiny D2 opening post. Really, D2 starts and the only scumhunting you have to do is "Hmm, Fire Eye is tunneling on Summoner."? Nih does not count towards your scumhunting because he does not exist and it's such an obvious and easy target and also he does not exist and you've already asked him several times D1 anyway.

If Bremm is not scum I will eat my hat. Even if I can't explain it terribly well, I'm just so so sure he must be scum. Everything about him just... UNNYYEEEEEEUUUUGGGHGHHHHH SCUM

[Den-O]

So, first, Fire Eye's early day stunt makes me go very mrrrrrr. The lack of a vote feels awkward as fuck and I'm not gonna forget that.

Sorceress' early D2 posting isn't that bad. SUMMONER on the other hand is what the fuck? Why would you ever make a post like that? Yeah, I know I'm not exactly one to talk about someone else RAGING but that was beyond the pale. Post something actually real, please.

Anyway, I actually see where I made my mistake re: the votecount. I read Sorceress as Countess re: Kaa's vote. So, uh, yeah, sorry about being dumb and not being able to read =D!

@Beetleburst: Reading the Bremm case...I'm underwhelmed. I mean, they feel like they might be valid points but there's nothing that SELLS it to me. It honestly reads like overdramatic posturing and trying to elongate a case by throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Bremm. Bremm looks bad but...your case feels off. Could you restate, concisely, your strongest points on Bremm? The ones you really think damn him? If the strongest things are defined as your post, feel free to say so. (To be honest I'm getting player tells from him but that player isn't playing so...)

Sorceress 214 feels like noise.

@Coldcrow: So what do you think about Nihlathak now that he hasn't posted for more than 24 hours? What about Barbarian?

Eyeback 216 gives me AWFUL vibes. I mean, is it possible to qualify your statements any MORE than that? "Raka is town but not TOO town because she might slip up so I can mislynch her" "Dead people are dead" "Summoner hasn't done anything today. Let's wait and see if my opinion magically changes." I'll give you that you have solid opinions on Sorc and Beetleburst, but seriously, the rest feels so CONTRIVED. I don't like it at all.

Fire Eye 217 confirms exactly what I thought. Summoner can defend that himself. That said, while I think you're mistaken I don't think you're scum (yet)

Coldcrow 218 How about the fact he's padding his posts with fence sitting and waffling?

Sorceress 224: Why the hell is Barbarian your towniest neutral read?

Summoner 227: A very WTF post that you WILL restate calmly lest I turn on you. This feels scummy as hell.

Bloodwitch 228: The irrelevance of Nih is why I think he's scum. Add to that the convenient lurking. I look forward to a vote from you.

Beetleburst 231: Proof of Role is Not Proof Of Alignment Jesus Christ, TROLLWI is the mod. Please don't try to argue that again. I agree the early claim is more town favored.

Hell, lemme just put it out there. Rereading Bremm gives me GUT! town and I don't know why because usually that type of player is the kind my gut HATES.

Also, I have no complaints about the new Bloodwitch, if that wasn't clear.

OK! Solidifying my suspects

Sorceress is likely scum, but that Summoner post was just AWFUL and felt like it was trying to capitalize on RAGE CRED
Fire Eye is off the table for me. It's one of Corpse/Barbarian, and pretty fucking obviously Barbarian. DID MY FIRST POST SCARE YOU!?
The useless tier group has been changed. Nih/Eyeback could both die, and to be honest , I'm leaning Eyeback. I hate, hate, HATE fucking Nihlathak and think he needs to fucking die before he's let anywhere NEAR a lylo, but if I want to lynch scum, I'm going to have to say Eyeback is the play. 216 puts my gut AND my brain into overload with the scumminess

Anyway, Sorc dies today and I appreciate town helping me with this endeavor =D

Another long, post, sorry, and HOLY SHIT A CUT BY BARBARIAN SCUM! Allow me to read and post my thoughts on it =D!

[Den-O]

Barbarian fails to impress. About what I expected, really. Lurker prod, Summoner hate (which reminds me of something), and a Bremm poke because Bremm is the popular counterwagon to Sorc. This is going to be lovely when Sorc flips scum

HEY SUMMONER, I ASKED YOU SOME QUESTIONS

Here, even restated for you conveniently because you pretty well sidestepped this and that PISSES ME OFF. Links are in this post, so you can't claim laziness

Summoner 58: Read this and answer me, Summoner. Why did you choose to vote Sorceress HERE as opposed to after you unvoted Kaa due to misunderstanding him? You are permitted to link back to a prior answer if given.

HEY BARBARIAN I ASKED YOU SOME QUESTIONS TOO. ANSWER THEM. POST IS LINKED.
Summon 60: Question stands. If you didn't want your vote floating around, why didn't you vote before?

OK, less questions than I thought but they're VERY important questions I want answered.

[Den-O]

...ugh, formatting fail. The second bold should be the last thing said.

[Decade]

Raka:Sorc is just... uninteresting to me.

Bear with me until Bremm flips scum, at least, 'kay? Then we can be bestest buddies. If Bremm flips town you can feel free to embibe plenty of haterade but I really really don't think he's gonna do that! :3

[Den-O]

GUT =D says awful town. Sorc is really a superior lynch in SO many ways. Even if Bremm were incredibly scummy, Sorc is as well, and there's a plethora of information to be had from her lynch. The Bremm lynch would tell us...what? If he's scum that some people are a little more likely to be town? If he's town that people can be wrong? Sorc had a full wagon on her, and two full counterwagons. There's information to be mined there. I want it, and as an added bonus, Sorc is pretty awful looking!

[Pesco]

Jail Votecount

Sorceress (3.5): Poisoned, Rakanishu, Eyeback, Coldcrow
Bremm Sparkfist (2.5): Beetleburst, Bloodwitch, Barbarian
The Summoner (2) Fire Eye, Sorceress
Fire Eye (2): The Summoner, Corpsefire

Not voting: Nihlathak, Bremm Sparkfist

12 alive, 5 votes for a lynch.
49% time remaining
Nihlathak will be Inactivity-modkilled at the day end if there is no post from him by the time I wake up tomorrow.

[Punch Hopper]

Although I have not much time I shall address this before it answers itself.

@Coldcrow: So what do you think about Nihlathak now that he hasn't posted for more than 24 hours? What about Barbarian?

At a glance on Barbarian?
"omgus what the hell kind of case is that"
Dissecting whether it goes up or down will come later.
On Nihlathak it means he is not here. What else would it means?
In fact it reaffirms my thoughts from what I have been taught.
This reasoning will be explained.
As a scum lurker one wishes to avoid attention and drift.
How does this reasoning compute with voting you?
If his goal were to drift to the end. Why attack the loudest?
Two goals that do not make sense together as scum.
His absence annoys. It is a terrible way to lose a town.

[Kabuto]

Hmm well.  I have a chuck of time to spend right now. 

At a glance a few questions have been asked of me.

@fire-eye: This list I gave still hasn't changed, I'll update it in a few hours after a re-read.

@raka:  Most important in the Bremm case is that his vote for countess did not feel genuine.  I neither like it for the reason he stated, nor the circumstances in which it was made, i.e, a vote made after the wagon picked up (I believe he was thrid) knowing full well that his vote nullifed both of countess's immunities whilst at least one player in the game was banking on that immunity to reduce their voting power.  Although this is info made known after I made the case, it only solidifies my feeling that the vote was simply parked.  The rest of the case is just icing on the cake, but I like to make complete cases.

Time to read..

[Kick Hopper]

I wasn't here when Crow voted, and I also believed Countess to be scum. I did not realize the amount of confusion that emerged from it, which is why I want to be more careful with my vote. Which is why I will use FoS as my vote.

@Bloodwitch the Wild: Are you defending me or are you going for my lynch?
Also, where is your own case? All you are doing is rephrasing Beetleburst.
Do you really have nothing to add?
I'm not accepting the claim that Beetleburst has said everything about me,
and why is Barbarian immediately in the clear due to GUT?
You've stated yourself that his posts were pretty useless. The fact that you cleared him so quickly with only a semi-reliable reason is suspicious.

@Summoner: ...rephrased that in more lighter terms.

@Fire Eye: Your saying that your Main point against Summoner is the fact that he had not replied to you about the reason for his panicking?

@Barbarian: I feel as if your avoiding answering Raka about Sorceress. I want to ask why you believe find Sorceress uninteresting.

Also, are you saying its pointless to ask questions to a person who has not shown up? I would like the reason in why you believe its pointless in asking a "lurker" questions. I won't accept "because he is not here". Just because hes not here now does not mean he will not be here later.

FoS: Bloodwitch the Wild

[Ryuki]

Okay, I got better.

Raka 198: I claim self stupidity.

Fire Eye 201: That giant wall of self quotes was all my posts concerning Sorc. You kept saying I had no reason for voting Sorc, and no reason why I kept voting Sorc. And the argument was so redundant because you couldn't look at my posts that I decided to just post them all for you.

SORCERESS: This post is just a giant ball of fluff that doesn't accomplish anything, and lacks both opinions and scumhunting. I even ASKED you to post some opinions to let you try and redeem yourself. And you kept your vote stuck on me, which just makes it look even less like scumhunting.
The next post looks wrong, and you know why? Because the opinions on it seem to be an exact copy of Raka's, but throwing some suspicion on him and Kaa to hide it. "Countess isn't looking any better"? You never said how she looked in the first place.
"Back to thinking scum here, now that I have knowledge of Countess/Kaa alignments."
How does knowing their alignments condemn me exactly?
About your "promised vote", uhhhh. Promised vote? I just want to know EXACTLY what you mean by that.
So now let's look at Sorc's case on me, one at a time.

My case on Summoner consists him completely dismissing the first major argument in favor of a random vote

Ahaha, for that first part, let's go rewind ALLLLLLLLL the way back to ED1, Page 1 (Or two for you people who use 25 post per page)

How does "ignoring the first argument" make Summoner scum instead of just a clueless townie or one who would prefer not to jump the gun when several players haven't posted?

You used that point for your first vote on me, you completely gave up on it on your second vote on me, and now you're reusing it on your third vote on me? There's so many things wrong with that.

his reread consisting of mostly accusations and comments

...so?

and him giving up on the wagon at that point feels like someone trying to justify an unpark people had been on him about instead of trying to push who he thought was the scummiest.

I don't even know what you mean by this.
Looking at the rest on her scum suspects, I can't even understand her case or suspicion on Cold at all, and Nil is the easiest person to suspect.
Totes scum.
##FoS: Sorc
Because voting to L-1 this early would be close to looking for trouble.

Ugggggh, clearly lost all my motivation since this took too long to make. Got to go now, be back soon, with more reads on things before this post, so I will be ignoring anything after this post until after I finish my next one.

Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
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[Ouja]

Sorry, my brain's fried and I am not making heads or tails of this game at right present.

I did my read of Bremm, and I can see his #169 contains very little, and his entire gameplay can be summed up as "Countess is suspicious". His #225 asks Nihlalurk for clear reads, but provides none himself.

Content to vote that for now. ##Unvote
##Vote Bremm

[Ryuki]

Uhhh, first, I forgot to do this durr
##Unvote
Then I'll just redo my #227

As said in: #201 a flat list as you requested:
- Voteparks on Sorc, refuses to answer any further questions.
- Panics for unknown reason.
- Then suddenly claims not getting lynched anyway. (Spite being at 5.5)
- Acts unaware why was there no L-X message. Kind of odd while he knowns his role for sure.

This is my case.

##Vote The Summoner

- As I have been saying, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I was NOT voteparking Sorc. I had early suspicions of Sorc, in addition to agreeing with Kaa's case on her, and Sorc did not look better in my eyes ever.She is still my strongest scum read.
As for questions, there's a fair lack of them at me, and even then was just you keep asking me why I votepark. Wondering why I got so angry?

- Okay, let's address this again without the caps because you didn't see my response in the post.
1) Was voted to L-1.5 (Should have been L-1, I have NO idea why Eyeback's vote counted as half), along with a promise from Barb to join my wagon (With absolutely no reason), so I was essentially at L-.5
2) Half of the players were voting for me. Then there's Nih, Bloodwitch, and Beetle (who hasn't post before mine), who were basically useless. Seriously looks hopeless at this point. And I couldn't even get why half the people voting for me were.
3) Role related reasons
4) MotKTown activity levels: Very fucking low. We have plenty of empty hours where absolutely nobody is posting at all.

- Total Misread, Misrep, and Mudslinging. Why is this even a point for me being scum in the first place?

- Show me how I was "unaware why was there no L-X message." How does that indicate that I'm scum? Are you trying to get me to reveal my role? Do you want to know my role so badly?
Uugggghhh, I'm probably just going to stay away from Fire Eye right now because I'm still fucking pissed off at his super tunneling.

Corpse: As I said, you don't look like you're honestly scumhunting. Raka clarified what I don't like about your post 146 here[url=http://. And your Fire Eye case is very lackluster. Oh right, before I forget I also dislike your [url=http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10667.msg704649.html#msg704649]26]. And your Fire Eye case is very lackluster. Oh right, before I forget I also dislike your [url=http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10667.msg704649.html#msg704649]26. Looking scummy, but not as much as Sorc

Eyeback:

That he has since spent his efforts on digging up dirt on nearly all players earns my further ire and now my vote:

How the hell does that draw your ire, and how does it indicate me I'm scum? I also like how after your initial post you completely act as if Sorc didn't exist afterwards. Except you then go back and decide that Sorc is now worse than me. Looks like you're trying to capture the popular waves and trying to hide in them, since you voted me when my wagon was rising while Sorc's was dying, and vice versa. And now you just drop everyone for Bremm without explaining why he's scummy. You're second scummiest, next to Sorc, and you earn my vote for now

##Vote Eyeback

Uggh, I just don't feel like reading the game, and I can't get anything from reading.

Beetle looks alright, but I second the request to condense your case on Bremm.

Barb is... ... ...
Zzzzzzzz
Dear god, he's so easy to read. Lurker prods, cases on useless people, and a non existant case on me and unexplained. Even his latest post is attempted to justify his case on me, and he can't so he just says forget about it. And his Bremm case is argh what? I couldn't make any sense of it, it made less sense than Beetle's case, and I didn't even really read his case on Bremm.

Bremm I'll save until maybe when I have more motivation or when Beetle updates his case.

Blood I'll leave for later

Cold and Raka are town, any questions on that?

[Skull]

Sorry, my brain's fried and I am not making heads or tails of this game at right present.

I did my read of ...

How do you do it? My brain isn't even fried, and I've had trouble comprehending anything.

Sorceress and Barbarian are Scum.
Beetle is also probably scum, but this is more of a gut reaction.

Rakanishi probably isn't scum, which means I'll need to work extra hard if I want to vote her. I doubt there's a third party so I'm out of luck, here. If my theory is correct, coldcrow is the other one I was going to lynch. At least with her, I have the meta excuse that she's impossible to read as anything but town, regardless of actual alignment.

I'm willing to support any lynch except Summoner, who is one of the very few town reads I have this game.

##Vote: Sorceress

[Den-O]

And Nihlathak claims scum

##Unvote
##FoS Sorceress

Trying to end the day early, Nih?

[Skull]

Whoever this guy's name is Unvoted. My vote should theoretically bring her back to 3.5 votes.
Besides, if I wanted the day to end early, I wouldn't let something like L-1.5 stop me.

[Den-O]

I missed that unvote, or rather didn't register it as off Sorceress.

My apologies, you're back to annoying status rather than actively scum.

##Vote Sorceress

[Faiz]

And now the usual re-read:

@Raka: Barb is reading as derptown, perhaps it's just me sympathizing a bit because trying to read through posts when getting cut in the game and in real life can be annoying indeed (Re: irl Yesterday).   I'm just about at the breaking point with him complaining about rl cuts though, because it's just noise.

@Bremm:  Why hold back the vote now, after you've already claimed and thus there's no confusion to be had?

@Summoner:

"How does knowing their alignments condemn me exactly?" <- They were the main reasons I steered away from your wagon at the end of the day.

"About your "promised vote", uhhhh. Promised vote? I just want to know EXACTLY what you mean by that." <- Quoting my response to Bloodwitch: "As for vote... uh... that got lost in responding to cuts <_<".  Namely the Coldcrow cut after I put down my reads on everyone.

"You used that point for your first vote on me, you completely gave up on it on your second vote on me, and now you're reusing it on your third vote on me? There's so many things wrong with that." <- Completely gave it up? I stated that I felt that I didn't like the random vote because I felt that first argument was enough to get out of RVS on my second vote.  Not exactly at the forefront of my argument there perhaps, but not completely given up like you said. (Assuming you mean #65). 

So...  isn't that what you implied I was doing with my #119?

"I don't even know what you mean by this." <- You had half a day left.  Just about everyone else has considered me scummy this entire game so far.   That is some major lack of faith in activity to think I wouldn't be able to be lynched at that point in time.

And... wait a second.  48% yesterday was too late to lynch me, yet 49% now is too early?  What?

Cut:  ... ahahaha what, Nihlathak?  Raka's probably not scum to you, so you're to have to work extra hard to vote him?  Theory and meta is also lol, how about some opinions instead.   You've managed to improve to... three people you think as scum!  With no reasoning at all!  With a side of "very few town reads" and not mentioning who you think those people are!  This just solidifies my read on you.

[Ouja]

How the hell does that draw your ire, and how does it indicate me I'm scum?

See the rest of the post you quoted from. You made no efforts to solidify the case you were voting on, rather prepared a platform to jump on just about everyone instead.

I also like how after your initial post you completely act as if Sorc didn't exist afterwards.

I like it myself as well.

Except you then go back and decide that Sorc is now worse than me. Looks like you're trying to capture the popular waves and trying to hide in them, since you voted me when my wagon was rising while Sorc's was dying, and vice versa.

Completely coincidental, I happened to agree the scummiest looking person looked scummiest. Prblm?

And now you just drop everyone for Bremm without explaining why he's scummy.

Learn to read. Then go back and read. If you still can't find it, read again.

Nihlatak, welcome back. Care to work out why Sorceress is definite scum?

[Decade]

Seconding Raka's statement that Nihlathak just claimed scum. Except Raka took it back.

Hell, his post looks like something you'd say in a scum quicktopic, not a thread. He doesn't give the slightest ounce of reasoning about anything, and says a paragraph that... seriously, that looks like something you would say in a quicktopic. Not using that as an actual reason that he's scum at all, I'm just commenting on that because it's interesting and doesn't make any sense. It's what you would say to your scumbuddies while trying to figure out who to vote.

His lynch would still be horribly and entirely uninformative at this point however, and Bremm is also completely scum, so I'm just gonna leave my vote there.

Sorc:I thought I only complained about RL cuts in exactly one post ;_; But yeah, I understand.

Bremm:Yeah I guess that point I had on you about the Nih was somewhat dumb (As in, more dumb then the rest of my rambling) without relevant flips, but it also just felt weirdish how they were worded, but :Shrug: I've read you both as obvscum at this point anyway.

Also I find it funny that Nih didn't answer a single one of your questions :V Not weird funny, just literally funny. YOU SO SILLY NIHLATHAK <3

[Ryuki]

Learn to read. Then go back and read. If you still can't find it, read again.

Okay, here's your vote

did my read of Bremm, and I can see his #169 contains very little, and his entire gameplay can be summed up as "Countess is suspicious". His #225 asks Nihlalurk for clear reads, but provides none himself.

This is complete IIoA, and does nothing to try and push Bremm as scum, or convince others that he is scum, or show that Bremm is scummy.

[Ryuki]

"Completely coincidental, I happened to agree the scummiest looking person looked scummiest. Prblm?"

I'll let that slide for now then.

[Ryuki]

"So..."  isn't that what you implied I was doing with my #119?"

No, your #119 was "just a giant ball of fluff that doesn't accomplish anything, and lacks both opinions and scumhunting."

"You used that point for your first vote on me, you completely gave up on it on your second vote on me, and now you're reusing it on your third vote on me? There's so many things wrong with that." <- Completely gave it up? I stated that I felt that I didn't like the random vote because I felt that first argument was enough to get out of RVS on my second vote.  Not exactly at the forefront of my argument there perhaps, but not completely given up like you said. (Assuming you mean #65).

You're still completely avoiding this question asked by Kaa, that I shall once again quote

Both Sorceress' post and vote reeked of scum attempting to simulate townie action without actually taking it. How does "ignoring the first argument" make Summoner scum instead of just a clueless townie or one who would prefer not to jump the gun when several players haven't posted?

"How does knowing their alignments condemn me exactly?" <- They were the main reasons I steered away from your wagon at the end of the day.

Again, HOW? does that make me scum? Quit avoiding the question!

[Ryuki]

"About your "promised vote", uhhhh. Promised vote? I just want to know EXACTLY what you mean by that." <- Quoting my response to Bloodwitch: "As for vote... uh... that got lost in responding to cuts <_<".  Namely the Coldcrow cut after I put down my reads on everyone.

Reread and acknowledged.

"I don't even know what you mean by this." <- You had half a day left.  Just about everyone else has considered me scummy this entire game so far.   That is some major lack of faith in activity to think I wouldn't be able to be lynched at that point in time.

Of course I don't have faith, look at the last two games. One mod threatened to lowering deadline, while the other one ACTUALLY DID.

Quad posting is pro
I feel good, I knew that I would

[Ryuki]

P-P-P-PENTA POST

Btw Eyeback, do you still think the people you described here are scum? Just for clarification. The vote's only on you because Sorc is close to death.

[Decade]

Just sayin that your link doesn't really go to a specific post, Summoner.

Not sure if that's on purpose but I'd assume it isn't. ;P

[Ryuki]

Noted.

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10667.msg707158.html#msg707158

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