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Thread restart.
Obligatory old thread here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,6205.0.html)
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Also, new captain Obvious thing.
Parsee's theme is called "Green-Eyed Jealousy". Guess who has Green eyes. :colonveeplusalpha:
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Right. Marisa does appear in Shoot the Bullet... .
EDIT: Guess what I did there.
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Also, new captain Obvious thing.
Parsee's theme is called "Green-Eyed Jealousy". Guess who has Green eyes. :colonveeplusalpha:
Mima? :V
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Freeze something in GFW close to the boss... The shadow is larger.(probably because of the field of distortion around the boss) This kinda got me thinking, what if what we're seeing in the games isn't a birds-eye view, but angled upwards into the sky?
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Does that explain why the sky is purple (Ex stage) or green (Forest of Magic)? (Actually, screw common sense! This is Gensokyo!)
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Meiling is the most generous character of all - she gives you item points during a nonspell (the one where she summons fairies).
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Eirin/Kaguya gives you point items during Hourai Elixir, too.
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And PCB Alice during her Midboss spellcard as well.
Actually, scratch that, the most generous boss is definitely Nue. :derp:
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I think it's quite intentional that Zun chose "Bell of Avici ~Infinite Hell~" and "Tomorrow will be Special, Yesterday was not" for his latest music album. The album seems show support for the recovery of Japan and "Infinite Hell" might refer to the hell that Japan went through during the earthquake and "Tomorrow will be Special, Yesterday was not" represents the bright tomorrow Japan will be looking forward to. What do you think? :V
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Eirin/Kaguya gives you point items during Hourai Elixir, too.
And PCB Alice during her Midboss spellcard and her Russian Dolls card as well.
Actually, scratch that, the most generous boss is definitely Nue. :derp:
How about Yuyuko and her Resurrection Butterfly?
But Meiling is still the only one who actually gives point items (sort of indirectly) in a nonspell.
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Freeze something in GFW close to the boss... The shadow is larger.(probably because of the field of distortion around the boss) This kinda got me thinking, what if what we're seeing in the games isn't a birds-eye view, but angled upwards into the sky?
So...the PC is flying with her back towards the ground? :derp:
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I think it's quite intentional that Zun chose "Bell of Avici ~Infinite Hell~" and "Tomorrow will be Special, Yesterday was not" for his latest music album. The album seems show support for the recovery of Japan and "Infinite Hell" might refer to the hell that Japan went through during the earthquake and "Tomorrow will be Special, Yesterday was not" represents the bright tomorrow Japan will be looking forward to. What do you think? :V
First of all, it's "Infinite Nightmare". Avici is the deepest level of Buddhist hell though.
Second, the original title of Tomorrow will be Special is "明日ハレの日、ケの昨日". Here "special" is ハレ(hare) and "not" is ケ(ke). These two descriptors are Shinto (and ultimately religious) concepts; hare signifying a out-of-the-ordinary thing (or day), one that something sacred or festive happens. Ke is a thing/day that is ordinary, mundane or profane/unreligious; though not necessarily bad. The translation is accurate enough, but in english it lacks the same religious connotation it contains in japanese.
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So...the PC is flying with her back towards the ground? :derp:
Err....yeah, I guess that blows my entire theory out of the water. But still.
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We all know of Kaguya and Mokou's fighting by now, there should at least be a winner by now. Mokou is an EX boss, Kaguya is a Stage 6 boss. Mokou should of at least have made Kaguya give up by now or SOMETHING. :flamingv:
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We all know of Kaguya and Mokou's fighting by now, there should at least be a winner by now. Mokou is an EX boss, Kaguya is a Stage 6 boss. Mokou should of at least have made Kaguya give up by now or SOMETHING. :flamingv:
> Mokou kills Kaguya
> Kaguya reincarnates
> Kaguya kills Mokou
> Mokou reincarnates
> Repeat
There is no end to it. Why would you say there is?
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Oh, there's an end (http://dizzy.pestermom.com/?p=swaromance), it just isn't canon.
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I forget what doujin I specifically saw "and if we get bored with romance, we can always get back to killing each other!" but for some reason it's stuck with me.
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When fighting against Satori in SA, the lifebars of the Recollection spells are all shades of blue for every character but ReimuA, which has purple lifebars.
Fucking Yukari.
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<genericyoutubecomment>ZUN STEALS SPELLCARDS</genericyoutubecomment>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ah2ah2QaA#t=5m40s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndGidKTKDAU
I never noticed that until about 5 minutes ago...
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I actually thought that the pattern briefly used by Hibachi was more like one of Meiling's cards/non-spells.
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I just noticed that all of the windows extra bosses have at least one spellcard in which they follow you in some way.
Flan, Suwako and Mokou have their survivals.
Ran and Yukari have Princess Tenko/Yukari's Spriting Away respectively.
Nue has Undefined Darkness.
And Koishi has part of her second survival card.
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Sanae Kochiya's skirt has exactly the same patterns in th10, th12 and th13.
By same, I mean copy-paste same.
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I just noticed that all of the windows extra bosses have at least one spellcard in which they follow you in some way.
Flan, Suwako and Mokou have their survivals.
Ran and Yukari have Princess Tenko/Yukari's Spriting Away respectively.
Nue has Undefined Darkness.
And Koishi has part of her second survival card.
While we're on the subject of certain stage bosses carrying a theme, most stage 4 bosses have a gimmick changing their attack pattern, usually based on the player character.
You fight the character you aren't playing as in LLS
Yuki/Mai in MS
Patchy changes spellcards based on your shot type and character in EoSD
You fight a different Prismriver at the start of the fight depending on your player character in PCB
Reimu/Marisa again in IN
Satori changes spellcards based on shot type and character in SA
Aya and Murasa are boring.
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I realized Cirno was only a child in Youkai terms recently. You can't expect a young child to know much, so why call her an idiot?
Also, Cirno is Far-Sighted, hence the blind spot on Icicle Fall Easy.
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Also, Cirno is Far-Sighted, hence the blind spot on Icicle Fall Easy.
you saw that on tvtropes which was posted there shortly after moerin posted the very same on poosh
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While we're on the subject of certain stage bosses carrying a theme, most stage 4 bosses have a gimmick changing their attack pattern, usually based on the player character.
You fight the character you aren't playing as in LLS
Yuki/Mai in MS
Patchy changes spellcards based on your shot type and character in EoSD
You fight a different Prismriver at the start of the fight depending on your player character in PCB
Reimu/Marisa again in IN
Satori changes spellcards based on shot type and character in SA
Aya and Murasa are boring.
The only form of gimmick I can think of with Aya is that she is a returning character from the previous game. Yeah, if you consider that a gimmick...
You can also say that the original Touhou has a form of gimmick for the fourth boss. The fourth boss, which is the final boss, depends on which path you took, the Makai Route or the Hell Route.
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Aya and Murasa are boring.
Don't know much about Aya, but Murasa is (I think) the only stage four boss to have a proper survival card. Not sure if that counts.
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Doesn't Aya's survival count as a proper one then?
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Doesn't Aya's survival count as a proper one then?
I think by "proper" he meant "final". dunno lol
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many final bosses have something that appears behind them during some of their nonspells/spellcards.
The red moon behind Remilia gets bigger as the fight progresses
Yuyuko has her fan
Kanako has her Onbashira
Utsuho makes a sun
Byakuren has her aura thing (I don't know what to call it)
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many final bosses have something that appears behind them during some of their nonspells/spellcards.
The red moon behind Remilia gets bigger as the fight progresses
:o
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I think by "proper" he meant "final". dunno lol
*points to signature*
I didn't count Aya's one because it's so short, but it's still a survival card so I guess it should count.
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*points to signature*
I didn't count Aya's one because it's so short, but it's still a survival card so I guess it should count.
Doesn't it get longer on higher difficulties?
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Nah, it doesn't. It definitely feels longer, though.
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Yukari's parasol is apparently a L?vatein.
The silhouette of Yukari in the PCB jewel case also has 'hands'.
"Fall of Fall" was a pun.
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Mitori would like to have a word with the creator of this game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArNuFLTe4Os&feature=player_detailpage#t=93s)
(I did restate it in the Youtube comments of course what an idiot I am)
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Having it that obvious probably meant it was on purpose, but good ear.
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Byakuren's background actually changes during Superhuman/Air Scroll.
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Byakuren's background actually changes during Superhuman/Air Scroll.
??? I don't see it. It looks the same to me.
The red moon behind Remilia gets bigger as the fight progresses
I think I see what you're saying.
Maybe I'm going blind with these things or...
What I noticed: Sakuya's spell circle in IaMP is misaligned. It's too high up. It's really noticeable when next to someone else's or when it's really small.
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The Alternative Age - Final Stage (http://i.imgur.com/3PjhS.png)
Concealed the Conclusion - Extra stage (http://ittuan.sakura.ne.jp/gensou/story_img_file/ex_01.jpg)
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ZUN changed the explosion effects of stage enemies and bosses to cherry blossom petals in Ten Desires. All other games post-PoFV used MoF's autumn leaves explosion effect.
(Great Fairy Wars did add an ice themed explosion for ice kills though)
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I never really noticed till now, bosses in IN tend to shoo you away with extra bullets when you get too close on normal.
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ReimuB's bomb in UFO does a little bit of damage to Nue during the Extra stage battle! :D Also, bombs do work on Extra stage non-cards!
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I never really noticed till now, bosses in IN tend to shoo you away with extra bullets when you get too close on normal.
I'm sure there are loads of those cards (in all games) that shoot additional bullets when you enter the top part of the screen. It's to keep you at the bottom.
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I'm sure there are loads of those cards (in all games) that shoot additional bullets when you enter the top part of the screen. It's to keep you at the bottom.
Uwabami Breakers shoots very, very noticable knives that are of a different type than the ones used by the Touhous.
This is nothing new for anyone who's tried shotgunning a boss in UB, by the way.
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and another. Voyage 1970 is the background piece to 1969. Never knew why this didnt click until now.
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I spelled 'Okkusenman' as 'Okuusenman' once, and never realized how close they were spelled up until now. Someone needs to mix the two themes or something.
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I spelled 'Okkusenman' as 'Okuusenman' once, and never realized how close they were spelled up until now. Someone needs to mix the two themes or something.
Ahem (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10202.0.html)
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Its been bothering me for quite some time actually but it's still rather crazy and disturbing... The hands coming out of Yukari's gap. (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gaminghell.110mb.com/images/ttyukarifull.png&imgrefurl=http://gaminghell.110mb.com/TouhouTime2.html&usg=__9gwUDfGRxedZkECHMrGmdn5sovU=&h=512&w=512&sz=187&hl=en&start=42&zoom=1&tbnid=x2sr7Hhaw_FWLM:&tbnh=142&tbnw=134&ei=JXgeTuG7GY72swPBlMRf&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dyukari%2Byakumo%2Bcanon%2Bart%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1268%26bih%3D1087%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=676&page=2&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:42&tx=49&ty=82)
It's not just that they're there, albeit that's kinda odd too considering nobody ever takes the time to draw them in fan works.... It's that the position of her fingers kinda seem to correlate with her hands.
See how the hand on the left side of the gap appears to be in the position of the fan on the right, while the hand on the right side of the gap is gripping it, kinda like how her hand is gripping her umbrella on the left?
Maybe I'm just crazy but perhaps Yukari's powers of dimensional manipulation come from her magical gloves?
... Just a thought.
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So, for whatever reason, a lot of the books I've been reading lately have mentioned Patchouli at some point or another, a liquor I didn't even know existed until I got into Touhou.
Confusion ensues from word association.
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Well it's probably been seen before, but it bothers me every time I fight her.
Flandre's right (our left) leg on her sprite is constantly moving. I never noticed it at first but after a few retries, it caught my attention and sufficiently keeps my attention when I have to watch her and her bullets at the same time. So distracting for me!
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The fairies in stage 5 and 6 of IN have bunny ears... seriously, I never noticed till just now....
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The Bamboo Forest and Eientei stage in th09 also has fairies with a pair of white socks on their heads.
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The Bamboo Forest and Eientei stage in th09 also has fairies with a pair of white socks on their heads.
Those are rabbit ears. They're supposed to be Eientei rabbits. :V
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...a pair of white socks on their heads.
Are you serious? :wat:
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No, I wasn't serious.
But I'm sure I've never seen any rabbit with ears like that.
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Also, new captain Obvious thing.
Parsee's theme is called "Green-Eyed Jealousy". Guess who has Green eyes. :colonveeplusalpha:
She also fires a lot of green bullets.
Okay, that wasn't too crazy.
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You know how Murasa's nonspells have that pattern like they're water droplets being flung from something?
Well, I was playing UFO the other day and noticed an oddity about her sprite, I caught it out of the corner of my eye when she was making the shots.
So I waited for the next wave of shots, and there it was.
You know that ladle she carries? Well, she swings it back and forth in the exact same pattern/timing as the bullets forming. :o
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You know how Murasa's nonspells have that pattern like they're water droplets being flung from something?
Well, I was playing UFO the other day and noticed an oddity about her sprite, I caught it out of the corner of my eye when she was making the shots.
So I waited for the next wave of shots, and there it was.
You know that ladle she carries? Well, she swings it back and forth in the exact same pattern/timing as the bullets forming. :o
Much in the same fashion as Kogasa who spins her parasol to create her spiral/circle - patterned non-spells. :V
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Well, Kogasa's glaringly obvious, I only just recently caught Murasa's less-than-obvious little quirk.
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You know how Murasa's nonspells have that pattern like they're water droplets being flung from something?
Well, I was playing UFO the other day and noticed an oddity about her sprite, I caught it out of the corner of my eye when she was making the shots.
So I waited for the next wave of shots, and there it was.
You know that ladle she carries? Well, she swings it back and forth in the exact same pattern/timing as the bullets forming. :o
By the way, notice the yellow bullets? The implications of that is just disturbing.
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By the way, notice the yellow bullets? The implications of that is just disturbing.
There's a reason why I've always made it a point not to get hit by her non spells.
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By the way, notice the yellow bullets? The implications of that is just disturbing.
Are you afraid of hot curry sauce?
Man, people today just don't have any taste...
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By the way, notice the yellow bullets? The implications of that is just disturbing.
What? Murasa's just trying to give you some lemonade. On such a hot day, you really should appreciate it.
Not as good as Iryan's, but at least I tried...
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By the way, notice the yellow bullets? The implications of that is just disturbing.
And THIS is what I call crazy stuff. I've never thought of that. Euwww.
But it's a ladle. How would THIS end up in a ladle? I am going to think of it as of some kind of a yellow-coloured soup. There definitely are some yellow soups around.
You, my good Sir, managed to completely change my perception of a character even more than Border of Extacy was able to. (Which is really saying something.)
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Sheeeeee issssss the great mighty piss
And she's not going to miss with this
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Im totally agreeing with the soup theory. but then, what're those purple bullets supposed to be?
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Im totally agreeing with the soup theory. but then, what're those purple bullets supposed to be?
Be creative. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Redbeansoupdessert.jpg)
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Im totally agreeing with the soup theory. but then, what're those purple bullets supposed to be?
I was thinking grape juice, since the yellow ones are lemonade.
They're lemonade...right? :ohdear:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IWwKF6bcEw
I just realised this entire song is in English and it has nothing to do with Touhou.
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Silly rabbits, she's obviously shooting these! (http://www.onlineslotsfinder.com/scr_shots_210/bejeweled-netent.jpg)
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Silly rabbits, she's obviously shooting these! (http://www.onlineslotsfinder.com/scr_shots_210/bejeweled-netent.jpg)
Save for the fact that they look like kites.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IWwKF6bcEw
I just realised this entire song is in English and it has nothing to do with Touhou.
Apart from the fact that it's (quite) clearly a cover of Lunatic Princess.
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I was thinking grape juice, since the yellow ones are lemonade.
They're lemonade...right? :ohdear:
No, they're not. (http://i54.tinypic.com/2z6cewi.jpg)
Anyway, while playing some UFO, I noticed that UFOs you summon have something reminiscent of the "Circle of Life" from Great Fairy Wars and Ten Desires around them, which indicates how full of items they are, and when it fills up, that's when you get the little bonus item that they drop.
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Stage 4 Midboss don't have spellcard in any difficulty.
Koakuma doesn't...
Lily doesn't...
Reimu/Marisa Doesn't count, since the battle starts right away (altough they interrupt the battle...)
Momiji doesn't...
Rin doesn't until the stage 5...
Nue doesn't either...
and the boss/spirit on TD much likely won't have one...
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You can really expand that to say ZUN follows specific patterns for the amount of noncards and spellcards a boss or midboss might have. And you can expand to say ZUN follows patterns for stage construction, and stage lengths, and health standards, and so on.
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I think generally all stage 1's start out with lines of enemies coming from the top and bottom.
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Youmu in the character art is usually shown having short white sleeves. Except in PCB. PCB took place in the winter (or frozen-over spring). :o
So practical Youmu.
Ok , her PoFV portrait also has long sleeves, but you can kinda stretch it and say that spring "just" arrived at it's still a bit chilly.
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No, they're not. (http://i54.tinypic.com/2z6cewi.jpg)
Anyway, while playing some UFO, I noticed that UFOs you summon have something reminiscent of the "Circle of Life" from Great Fairy Wars and Ten Desires around them, which indicates how full of items they are, and when it fills up, that's when you get the little bonus item that they drop.
I kinda facepalmed at your post... How could you not have noticed that from the very beginning :colonveeplusalpha:
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Both of the ghost bosses, Yuyuko and Murasa, have survival cards that aren't shown in their lists of life bars at the top left corner of the screen.
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I kinda facepalmed at your post... How could you not have noticed that from the very beginning :colonveeplusalpha:
I also never noticed those rings until now. I just fill UFOs up until I hear the sound that they make when full. Looking up at them seems kinda useless and just makes it easier to get killed while looking away.
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I also never noticed those rings until now. I just fill UFOs up until I hear the sound that they make when full. Looking up at them seems kinda useless and just makes it easier to get killed while looking away.
... Dude. UFO came before FW and TD. Uh... remember?
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I also never noticed those rings until now. I just fill UFOs up until I hear the sound that they make when full. Looking up at them seems kinda useless and just makes it easier to get killed while looking away.
Same here. This "circle of life" isn't quite as obvious as the ones in GFW and TD, and I only noticed it when I was staring at the upper half of the screen during a replay.
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Captain Murasa's cards, barring her third one, are all made to further drown you in bullets as time passes.
It's only a matter of time before the ship sinks~
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Many people have seen Nazi signs in Ran's and Mokou's battle, but look fast in Koishi's second to last spell to see nazi signs there, too! Zun is a nazi! :o(jk)
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Reimu is generally slow as aa playable, but when she's a boss, she has super speed!
...Why, ZUN, why? ????????????????????????
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There is an edit button, no need to double post.
Many people have seen Nazi signs in Ran's and Mokou's battle, but look fast in Koishi's second to last spell to see nazi signs there, too! Zun is a nazi! :o(jk)
I think you are looking for the word "swastika", and I would love to see people no longer associate it with nazism unless already thinking in the context of German early 20th century history. Same with any other cultural element that was tainted by being used by them, like the first two verses of the national anthem.
...sorry for offtopic rant. :derp:
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In Mystical Chain, on Shikieki's last spell, when you knock Komachi down, Shiki makes a priceless face before she strikes Komachi with lightning! :]
POOR KOMACHI! :ohdear:
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There is an edit button, no need to double post.
I think you are looking for the word "swastika", and I would love to see people no longer associate it with nazism unless already thinking in the context of German early 20th century history. Same with any other cultural element that was tainted by being used by them, like the first two verses of the national anthem.
...sorry for offtopic rant. :derp:
]Nah, it's ok! ^ ^" :blush:
<Tengukami> No, really, DO NOT DOUBLE POST. You don't need to respond to this, either. Just use the "edit" button if you have something more to add.
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If I remember correctly, that symbol is/was associated with Buddhism or Shintoism, correct? I remember hearing it was often used to mark temples on a map.
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Yes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Historical_use_in_the_East)
Really though, it found a use in many different cultures, centuries before being adopted by everyone's least favorite mustache. Which makes sense since it is a very simple yet recognizable symbol.
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Yeah, I'm trying to remember the term for the inverted one. I know it isn't "manzai" because that's the double-act thing ... or manju ... Hmm, now I'm hungry for manju.
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Manji.
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Yeah, that~
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Manji.
Oh, that's why it's called the [Manji-Parasol of Yakumo]. Now there is an easy way to remember that.
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I believe in Japan the manji is used as a map icon to indicate a temples for worship, as well as for other religious things.
I think I also heard once that the manji or a similar symbol was used as a Native American sign for good luck or some such.
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Isn't the Manji sitting 'straight' while the swastika is angled 45 degree? Or am I wrong.
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Isn't the Manji sitting 'straight' while the swastika is angled 45 degree? Or am I wrong.
Yeah, the swastika is supposed to be tilted a bit.
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Apparently, if you try to go above Kogasa in Rain Sign "A Rainy Night's Ghost Story" (the easy and normal version of the spell card in which the bullets only ever fall down), she will actively try to ram into you. Kinda funny. Wonder how many people found that out? I mean, who would ever want to try to go above her in that particular spell card for anything else than for the lols?
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LUnatic princess theme is a bit like xevious theme..
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Apparently, if you try to go above Kogasa in Rain Sign "A Rainy Night's Ghost Story" (the easy and normal version of the spell card in which the bullets only ever fall down), she will actively try to ram into you. Kinda funny. Wonder how many people found that out? I mean, who would ever want to try to go above her in that particular spell card for anything else than for the lols?
You know, that's a surprisingly fun thing to do. She only seems to chase you when you are really high up though, so getting a few inches down for a second makes her lose track of you.
brb playing more tag with Kogasa!
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You know, that's a surprisingly fun thing to do. She only seems to chase you when you are really high up though, so getting a few inches down for a second makes her lose track of you.
brb playing more tag with Kogasa!
That's ZUN's anti-cheesing methods at work there. :3 Not sure how many bosses have it now, since a lot of spell cards in more recent games seem to be designed to eliminate blind spots one way or another, but while messing around on IN Practice Start a while back, I discovered that if you go above the "bowl" in Kaguya's second spell card, she spams rings of bullets until you die.
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Imperishable Night had a lot of that to be honest.
It's silly what you find when you spam Youmu's bomb in every pattern in that game. Tei rages, Kaguya rages. Pretty sure one of Reimu's cards did that.
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Apparently Reimu doesn't complain when you try to move into the ring of small pellets in her Demon Binding Ring (or whatever) spellcard.
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Apparently Reimu doesn't complain when you try to move into the ring of small pellets in her Demon Binding Ring (or whatever) spellcard.
Thats Evil Sealing Circle. and you're usually too busy weaving in the arrowheads to get anywhere.
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Apparently, if you try to go above Kogasa in Rain Sign "A Rainy Night's Ghost Story" (the easy and normal version of the spell card in which the bullets only ever fall down), she will actively try to ram into you. Kinda funny. Wonder how many people found that out? I mean, who would ever want to try to go above her in that particular spell card for anything else than for the lols?
This is cool, I never knew she did that. Had a little fun just now.
On a side note, after playing that stage in practice, at the end, I accidentally pressed save replay, then used x to get out. A bomb ensued for a few split seconds, then froze on the screen. (just the bomb froze, not the game) Found a glitch. :]
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This is cool, I never knew she did that. Had a little fun just now.
On a side note, after playing that stage in practice, at the end, I accidentally pressed save replay, then used x to get out. A bomb ensued for a few split seconds, then froze on the screen. (just the bomb froze, not the game) Found a glitch. :]
Yeah, apparently in SA and UFO (and probably MoF and TD too), if you're at the end of a stage in practice mode, you can "unnecessarily" use a bomb.
I think it's because the game doesn't recognize that the player is supposed to be paused (shouldn't use bombs, shoot, etc.) at that moment.
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Yeah, apparently in SA and UFO (and probably MoF and TD too), if you're at the end of a stage in practice mode, you can "unnecessarily" use a bomb.
I think it's because the game doesn't recognize that the player is supposed to be paused (shouldn't use bombs, shoot, etc.) at that moment.
Oh yeah, I remember seeing this several times actually. On many occasions after I finished up practicing Stage 6 of SA, I would notice that I could still move and shoot for about 1-2 seconds after the menu appeared on-screen before my character actually paused.
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On the subject of glitches, I got bored of sitting through the ending of IN so after beating Kaguya I went back to the menu as the screen faded white, and then the menu loaded and... faded to white XD
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On the subject of glitches, I got bored of sitting through the ending of IN so after beating Kaguya I went back to the menu as the screen faded white, and then the menu loaded and... faded to white XD
I think this is a mu;ti-game thing, too. Did a practice run vs. Yuyuko, and then went out of the stage quickly after I won, and the effect stayed. Probably something to do with already-in-progress-transitions causing the game to be confused or some such.
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IN Stage 6B - the moon starts off a bit off to the left, but after a few spellcards, it moves to the very center of the screen?
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On the topic of Blindspots, Reimu's first card on easy has a ridiculously fun blind spot to exploit. You can spin with her shots earing some nice graze. Too bad she does away with this in normal and higher.
Tewi's second pattern has easy to use gaps on every difficulty. you can just sit in that spot and no bullets will ever hit you.
Also i haven't forgotten the countless times i've got slammed with boss bullets by getting too close in IN. PCB had some too iirc.
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Tewi's second pattern has easy to use gaps on every difficulty. you can just sit in that spot and no bullets will ever hit you.
Actually that's the draw of the pattern. You're supposed to figure out that you take advantage of one spot instead of actively dodging.
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Ah, well it still saves me lives rather than making foolish mistakes.
Everyone probably noticed this one since it's blaringly obvious, but Eirin's background for her non spells change for each one i believe.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpqQjt0XpY
Huh... A safespot in one of Youmu's spellcards?
I randomly replicated it in one of my runthroughs (was trying to unlock all stages in Practice mode, so replay, I have not one)
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the card doesn't exist on hard and lunatic
also there are quite a few safespots in the card, and many many ways to clear any given wave by standing still
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The Extra stage boss in Ten Desires.
Her special bullets are actually enemies
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While watching replays in IaMP, I noticed something odd with Yukari's alternate colors. Her umbrella, while she's standing still, should be white. (as opposed to pink) However, in one of her image frames, it turns to pink. Slight goof there. :V
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In TH13, the bar behind names on the difficulty selection screen slightly tilts when you move to a different selection.
"Extra"'s bar is about the same as "Easy".
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Kogasa has been appearing quite frequently, appearing in 12, 12.5, and 13.
Nue
has also appeared in all those games.
New reccuring characters? The next new players in the fighting games?
Obvious one but.
Sakuya has stopped appearing as either a playable or opponent as of SWR. All other games (Excluding Fairy Wars)(MoF and after) have had appearances by Sanae in some way.
In Mokou's "Possessed by Phoenix" there is a large pink ring that slowly shrinks in size until the spell ends.
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Every spellcard in th08 has the ring which shrinks based on the damage you've done.
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It's the ring that indicates how much time is left until the spell times out.
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Toyosatomimi no Miko
Has two right hands.
Reimu's Focused Shots in Ten Desires somewhat look like knives (atleast to me)
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All the girls related to
Toyosatomimi no Miko
use some sort of sharp weapon in their danmaku.
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The entire first wave of Yukari's last word can be dodged by staying still.
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Kogasa has a darker spellcard background in th125 compared to th12 and th13
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Toyosatomimi no Miko
Has two right hands.
Reimu's Focused Shots in Ten Desires somewhat look like knives (atleast to me)
They're needles, like the last time.
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first, i'd like to say by, it's ok, i ment the off-topic rant. i should've been specific... :ohdear:
In Seigu Kaku's theme, you can hear some of Shou's theme, and Patchouli's theme.All the girls related to Toyosatomimi no Miko
use some sort of sharp weapon in their danmaku.
those, i believe, are arrow danmeku, those can go to hell, they make me so mad!!!!! :derp:
Mamizou's leaf on her head is EXACTLY like the Animal Crossing leaf!!!!
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OMG A HOLE IN A LEAF, NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE
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Mamizou's leaf on her head is EXACTLY like the Animal Crossing leaf!!!!
OMG A HOLE IN A LEAF, NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE
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holy god.i live lot of years, and never knew about this kind of tea, or more like, a style of drink tea.
I prepared some salted tea with floating cherry blossom petals for them. I poured the hot water slowly, and even the floating blooms in the cup were also imbibed. While we can't enjoy relaxing under the trees today, there are still ways to enjoy the view of the blossoms.
-"I never thought you would prepare such beautiful tea for us, Rinnosuke."
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Curiosities_of_Lotus_Asia/Chapter_24
now i want some of that tea, now. :*
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Look up 桜湯 or ask a restaurant if they have Sakurayu; while it isn't really what Rinnosuke describes, it is indeed a tea made from salted cherry blossoms.
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OMG A HOLE IN A LEAF, NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE
don't need to be a jerk about it :wat:
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don't need to be a jerk about it :wat:
He didnt intend to be rude, just sarcastic as all hell. This is what he does.
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Kanako actually uses Sanae's secondary spell background in the Extra Stage as opposed to her own.
More obviously, her nonspell keeps the Extra Stage background and still superimposes the secondary spell background, despite not being a card.
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He didnt intend to be rude, just sarcastic as all hell. This is what he does.
ah, ok. sorry. :blush:
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I just realized that MS has an alternate sound effect option, that makes everything beeps. :getdown: I laughed the entire time through the demo mode replay.
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I'm pretty sure that this has been "discovered" hundreds of times before, but only today, when I decided to have some serious go at PCB to see the endings (meaning, I suckered through easy with max lives to barely win with Reimu and Sakuya) that dawned on me that most of the fairies you see in the game are doing a Yukari cosplay. :P
(I imagine that since Yukari moved openly, the "in" thing to do among the faeries that spring was to dress like the gap youkai)
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Just found out that th13's ending theme is a little different from the other ending themes.
It doesn't have "Dream". It has "ドリーム"
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still says dream, just in katakana though
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I'm pretty sure that this has been "discovered" hundreds of times before, but only today, when I decided to have some serious go at PCB to see the endings (meaning, I suckered through easy with max lives to barely win with Reimu and Sakuya) that dawned on me that most of the fairies you see in the game are doing a Yukari cosplay. :P
(I imagine that since Yukari moved openly, the "in" thing to do among the faeries that spring was to dress like the gap youkai)
Oh crap, I never noticed that. :o
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I just realized that the ending themes seem to be based off the final bosses theme...
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That's only the case with MoF and UFO.
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That's only the case with MoF and UFO.
About the ending and boss themes? No way! EoSD was the game I first noticed it in, and I confirmed it in PCB as well SA, though SA was much harder to tell. Unless you were refering to something someone else said. In that case never mind. :blush:
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Could you please elaborate then? I can't hear anything in Eastern Dream that pertains to Septette. Border of Life and Japanize Dream are only similar because they're both based on Sakura Sakura. I actually rechecked Future Dream before I posted to make sure I wasn't mistaken.
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Could you please elaborate then? I can't hear anything in Eastern Dream that pertains to Septette. Border of Life and Japanize Dream are only similar because they're both based on Sakura Sakura. I actually rechecked Future Dream before I posted to make sure I wasn't mistaken.
EoSD - Compare the beggining of Eastern Dream to the part of Septette thats starts at 1:23 - it's very similar but slower.
PCB - I thought Sakura Sakura and Japanize dream were the same song "Sakura Sakura ~ Japanize Dream" Anyway, in "Sakura Sakura ~ Japanize Dream", at :30 you can hear a piano-ish melody in the background. This sounds very similar to "Bloom Nobly, Cherry Blossoms of Sumizome ~ Border of Life" at 1:05.
IN - This one I'm unsure about. Basically the piano in the beggining of Eternal Dream ~ Mystic Maple is "kind of" like the fast intro part of Lunatic Princess. But not really. I would note, however, that there are two final bosses, and that Mokou's theme has some similarity to Kaguya's. (They start kind of softly, then shift into a fast repetative intro) Otherwise idk, IN is just wierd.
PoFV - The intros to Another Dream and Eiki's theme are vaguely similar. Another Dream has a three note repetition at :29. Eiki's theme does the same thing at :50.
MoF - You agreed to that one earlier.
SA - Compare Future Dream at :22 to Nuclear Fusion at :50. Otherwise its more in the "feel" rather than direct similarity.
UFO - You agreed with that one too.
TD - No idea, unfamiliar with the soundtrack.
Clearly, some of these are just vaguely similar, but still the similarities are close enough (imo, anyway) Also I'm not familiar with Fairy Wars, if that even counts.
Sorry about the late reply I've had no internet access.
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TD - No idea, unfamiliar with the soundtrack.
Stage 4 theme is used here, not the Final boss theme.
So the chain was ruined here.
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Another thing it took a long time for me to realize (and sorry if this common noob knowledge), the name of Flandre's theme, as well as her survival spell, are references to Agatha Christie's novel "And Then There Were None". Alice's last name was apparantly inspired by a character named Murgatroyd from another novel by the same auther, "A Murder is Announced". Is ZUN a fan of Agatha Christie or something?
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Either ZUN can read English or he's reading some Japanese version of the novels.
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PCB - I thought Sakura Sakura and Japanize dream were the same song "Sakura Sakura ~ Japanize Dream"
I'm pretty sure Drake meant that they're both based on Sakura Sakura, a traditional folk song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keF-KYKKYeI
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EoSD - Compare the beggining of Eastern Dream to the part of Septette thats starts at 1:23 - it's very similar but slower.
PCB - I thought Sakura Sakura and Japanize dream were the same song "Sakura Sakura ~ Japanize Dream" Anyway, in "Sakura Sakura ~ Japanize Dream", at :30 you can hear a piano-ish melody in the background. This sounds very similar to "Bloom Nobly, Cherry Blossoms of Sumizome ~ Border of Life" at 1:05.
IN - This one I'm unsure about. Basically the piano in the beggining of Eternal Dream ~ Mystic Maple is "kind of" like the fast intro part of Lunatic Princess. But not really. I would note, however, that there are two final bosses, and that Mokou's theme has some similarity to Kaguya's. (They start kind of softly, then shift into a fast repetative intro) Otherwise idk, IN is just wierd.
PoFV - The intros to Another Dream and Eiki's theme are vaguely similar. Another Dream has a three note repetition at :29. Eiki's theme does the same thing at :50.
MoF - You agreed to that one earlier.
SA - Compare Future Dream at :22 to Nuclear Fusion at :50. Otherwise its more in the "feel" rather than direct similarity.
UFO - You agreed with that one too.
TD - No idea, unfamiliar with the soundtrack.
Clearly, some of these are just vaguely similar, but still the similarities are close enough (imo, anyway) Also I'm not familiar with Fairy Wars, if that even counts.
Sorry about the late reply I've had no internet access.
I can sort of get where you're coming from, and yes I agree with you noting the thematic similarity, which seems to be a trend for ZUN especially in the post-MoF games. However, there aren't really explicit links between the Stage 6 boss' themes and the Staff Roll/Credits themes. (Nitpicking, but the Ending themes are a different thing altogether.)
Some of the melodies and note progression do sound similar, but they are not the same thing. If anything, this looks like a case of seeing patterns that aren't there (there's a word for it too: Apophenia. Who knew?)
In fact, I had a similar experience some time ago trying to find the "Touhou Theme" (the note progression in every single Menu Theme since EoSD (minus Hisoutensoku?) ) in the Stage 6 boss themes. This happened after I noticed how obvious these notes were in the main melodies of Miko and Mamizou's themes, as well as in Kaguya and Eirin's. needless to say there weren't any results elsewhere.
A few other things to point out:
IN - Mystic Maple is in fact based on PoDD's ending theme, Maple Dream. Imagine my surprise when I cleared PoDD the first time.
GFW - Has no Staff Roll theme, but the Ending theme is a slower verion of the Menu theme.
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GFW - Has no Staff Roll theme
Possibly-crazy stuff that you still haven't noticed until now
Just realised that GFW has no Staff Roll at all :o . I've cleared it a number of times already and yet I've never actually noticed it.
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Just realised that GFW has no Staff Roll at all :o . I've cleared it a number of times already and yet I've never actually noticed it.
It's kinda ironic, considering this is probably the one game where the credits wouldn't just say:
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ZUN
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On the topic of screen themes, this is pretty obvious: the fighting games have their own unique title screen ditty, sans IaMP IIRC.
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On the topic of screen themes, this is pretty obvious: the fighting games have their own unique title screen ditty, sans IaMP IIRC.
IaMP had it's own title theme too, and it got remixed as 12.3's Character Select theme.
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Not 100% about this, but I believe the background in Rika's picture in the SoEW Extra stage is the same mountain-ish thing that can be seen inside the "Five Magic Stones" in stage 3
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That white silhouette in the Hisoutensoku loading screen is actually
Sanae dashing
...
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The fairies in the final stage of Ten Desires act the same way as they do in PoFV. Shoot them and you'll activate a chain reaction with the spirits that trail behind them.
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That's kind of key to getting the last spirits. I really hope people have noticed it.
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It is impossible to even lower Nitori's midboss health gauge, even with Marisa B glitch.
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The fairies in the final stage of Ten Desires act the same way as they do in PoFV. Shoot them and you'll activate a chain reaction with the spirits that trail behind them.
Technically it's not so much of a chain reaction as it is the trail disintegrating (leaving no items/divine spirits) the moment the fairy is killed.
Turns out Sanae's 10D bomb homes towards the boss. It'll go downwards if you're above her.
Also, Futo's last card's last phase on lunatic (when there are only blue amulets and the red rice streams are gone) can be activated on lower difficulties by dying and or bombing. I remember it happening to me a few times on normal.
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Turns out Sanae's 10D bomb homes towards the boss. It'll go downwards if you're above her.
The bosses can also safe-spot her spellcard (trololo) by staying in the middle of her spinning pentagram, too.
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The reason why Yuyuko in TD has one extra spellcard at the end is because the midboss does not have any spellcards at all.
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85% of Kogasa fanart is borderline-NSFW. Those legs.
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Sakuya's apron in PoFV has roman numerals along the bottom of it.
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-Meiling mentions a jiang-shi to Yuyuko in Hisoutensoku.
-Yuyuko appears in a game with a jiang-shi in Ten Desires.
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You can only run one of any Touhou game at a time. (well, shooters and photogs anyway, idk about fighters)
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You can only run one of any Touhou game at a time. (well, shooters and photogs anyway, idk about fighters)
The fighters seem to ignore each other, so they always run together fine. As for the regular touhou games, you can run more than one at a time, it just depends on the game. (I can run PCB and IN together fine, but not IN and PoFV) Can't tell exactly why, since the log error that shows up is in Japanese.
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It is impossible to even lower Nitori's midboss health gauge, even with Marisa B glitch.
:wat: what? when?
Miko speaks during her fight, and when Futo and Toziko are summoned, they do too.
If someone hadn't noticed that.
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Miko speaks during her fight, and when Futo and Toziko are summoned, they do too.
I thought she only speaks after her summoning spell card?
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I thought she only speaks after her summoning spell card?
Well the previous comment didn't say that she spoke during her spell card, it's just that it's easily misinterpreted that way.
Also every new character in 10D except the final and extra boss appear twice in the main game's storyline.
You can safespot the first wave of Danmaku bounded field by standing at the default position.
You have to bombrush kogasa in stage 3 of 10D in order to get the bonus fairies that will drop a life piece each. (Kogasa drops 2 life pieces and the other two fairies drop one each, makes it perfect to spam trance.)
All the recurring characters in PoFV were never final or extra bosses. The exception? Yuuka (Except she's also technically a stage 5 boss)
looks like zun doesn't like spoiling people, but then again, we have in 10D extra nue appearing out of freaking nowhere
Miko's 3rd nonspell on lunatic breaks the bullet cap
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You can charge your shot with youmu while in trance mode.
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In Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, aside from the player characters, only Sakuya has a Japanese name. Incidentally, Remilia named her, so her original name may have been something other than Japanese. (Is it just me, or do I get kind of a Japanophile vibe from Remi? So maybe that is the case. :V) Similarly, Perfect Cherry Blossom is comprised of mostly foreign names... Youmu and Yuyuko seem to have been named that way since the beginning, but Yukari named herself and Ran. Oh, I guess you can count Fairy Wars, too, with only Marisa having a Japanese name (and the Marisa part of that name could go either way). Non-Japanese names steadily decline after that to a point where even the Chinese Seiga uses the Japanese pronunciation of her name. Goodness, maybe I'm looking into names a bit too much...
Yuyuko freaks out if you get right next to her in her first non-spell. This is in Normal Mode and is not altered in any way. (http://puu.sh/5Gzo) Kaguya does something similar in one of her non-spells, but I can't time it right to get a screenshot, sorry. (Possibly others do this, too? I've tested on a few other bosses and haven't found anything yet.) Amusingly, both of them are considered princesses, so it might have something to do with being improper and getting too close to them. Or they just don't like it. :P
I'm not sure if either of those have any real significance; sorry if they don't!
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The second is generally due to the possibility of safespotting the patterns otherwise. Tewi does it too.
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A lot of Danmakufu users like to do the same thing, but very badly. Yeah, covering up blindspots like so is usually not a good thing.
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Huh, didn't know that PCB also had anti-shotgunning measures. Nifty.
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Now imagine if TD had such an attack... Uh-oh.
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Remilia's theme has a distinctive Mexican feel to it.
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Reimu's 'eyes' image above her name in IaMP has dark red eyes, while her portrait has blue.
Alice's eyes are blue in her sprite, but they're green in her portrait
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Yuyuko carries a lantern in her IN portrait. This is the same lantern that Youmu comes to retrieve from Kourindou in CoLA chapter 13. :O
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I just noticed that Marisa's theme in Imperishable Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssmxWJftyo) is the same as in Story of Eastern Wonderland. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHzfz3OK2OM)
:o
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Gee, it's even the same in Immaterial and Missing Power.
Not like ZUN specifically said it was an arrangement or something....?
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Gee, it's even the same in Immaterial and Missing Power.
Not like ZUN specifically said it was an arrangement or something....?
How was i supposed to know? I don't actually own any of the games.
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Remilia's sprite was recolored from IaMP to SWR/Soku. Most noticeable being the color of her hair. Which changes from a blue to a less saturated, and lighter color.
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<drake> esc+r
For Give Up and Retry.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oku_Volcanic_Field
Hmm.
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EoSD: Winter???
PCB: Winter then spring
IN: Summer, because of wriggle(firefly in japan generally appears during summer)
PoFV: Probably summer because of sunflower from yuka's stage
MoF: Autumn
SA: Winter
UFO: Early SPring
TD: Last moment spring
The next game gonna be set in Summer yeah!!! Summer spirits come out quickly!
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You're mostly all wrong. EoSD takes place in summer, PCB is Spring, IN is late Summer/early fall. PoFV is in the Spring,
On a different note though, all the fighting games take place during the summer.
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Suika and Yuugi are two of the four Oni Devas. At first I thought 'Deva' was an alternate or misspelling of 'Diva', since they're basically famous oni ladies of high esteem.
I just discovered that 'Deva' is actually the Sanskrit word for 'deity' from Buddhism and Hinduism.
Suika and Yuugi are Oni Goddesses.
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Suika and Yuugi are two of the four Oni Devas. At first I thought 'Deva' was an alternate or misspelling of 'Diva', since they're basically famous oni ladies of high esteem.
I just discovered that 'Deva' is actually the Sanskrit word for 'deity' from Buddhism.
Suika and Yuugi are Oni Goddesses.
Given their powers(Gathering/Dispersal, and Control of The Supernatural respectively), it's quite understandable.
Stuff like that is generally reserved for god/goddess-caliber characters in that series. EG, Suwako and her Control over/Creation of Earth, and Kanako's Dominion Over Skies and Hills.
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I just noticed that Marisa's theme in Imperishable Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssmxWJftyo) is the same as in Story of Eastern Wonderland. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHzfz3OK2OM)
:o
I found this surprising as well. Didn't know "Love Colored Master Spark" went back that far. However, ZUN did mention SoEW in his comments on the theme.
Speaking of themes that took you back to the past, Reimu and Alice have both had PC-98 themes come into the Windows era. Marisa has the most: two. Her EX-theme in Great Fairy Wars originated from her EX-boss theme in Seihou.
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Ah, yes. If I weren't mistaken, I think he tried to "remix" that theme, but for some reason he said he only made an "arrangement" using only "the general idea" of the song.
Actual quotes may vary.
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Suika and Yuugi are two of the four Oni Devas. At first I thought 'Deva' was an alternate or misspelling of 'Diva', since they're basically famous oni ladies of high esteem.
I just discovered that 'Deva' is actually the Sanskrit word for 'deity' from Buddhism.
Suika and Yuugi are Oni Goddesses.
I'd like to point out that "deva" used in this case is just a title of their superiority, and they aren't literal devas. The word used is 四天王, which can refer to the actual four devas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Heavenly_Kings) in Buddhism, but in other cases such as this one it's basically just the top four people. For an analogy, the Elite Four in the Pok?mon games is referred to by the same kanji (四天王) in Japanese, because they're basically the top four Trainers. I guess it's not really something that can translate perfectly into English. :L
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*scribbles notes* Yuugi and Suika are members of the Elite Four, got it!
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I'd like to point out that "deva" used in this case is just a title of their superiority, and they aren't literal devas. The word used is 四天王, which can refer to the actual four devas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Heavenly_Kings) in Buddhism, but in other cases such as this one it's basically just the top four people. For an analogy, the Elite Four in the Pok?mon games is referred to by the same kanji (四天王) in Japanese, because they're basically the top four Trainers. I guess it's not really something that can translate perfectly into English. :L
*scribbles notes* Yuugi and Suika are members of the Elite Four, got it!
Cannot unsee Flint!Suika and Drake!Yuugi.
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I'd like to point out that "deva" used in this case is just a title of their superiority, and they aren't literal devas. The word used is 四天王, which can refer to the actual four devas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Heavenly_Kings) in Buddhism, but in other cases such as this one it's basically just the top four people. For an analogy, the Elite Four in the Pok?mon games is referred to by the same kanji (四天王) in Japanese, because they're basically the top four Trainers. I guess it's not really something that can translate perfectly into English. :L
四天王 (Shitennoh) translates as "four emperors", too. TVTropes has an entire page about this kind of grouping (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourIsDeath (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourIsDeath)).
Shitennoh is also the original naming for Golbez' four lords of the elements in FFIV. From Hyadain's fan masterpiece about them (http://youtu.be/C8vz186pjY0) other fans made a Touhou version with noone else than team-9 (http://youtu.be/DvO3l4zDOAw).
Somehow, it has escaped me that Gensokyou had their own official four emperors. Nice to know this.
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Yuyuko freaks out if you get right next to her in her first non-spell. This is in Normal Mode and is not altered in any way. (http://puu.sh/5Gzo) Kaguya does something similar in one of her non-spells, but I can't time it right to get a screenshot, sorry. (Possibly others do this, too? I've tested on a few other bosses and haven't found anything yet.) Amusingly, both of them are considered princesses, so it might have something to do with being improper and getting too close to them. Or they just don't like it. :P
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Now imagine if TD had such an attack... Uh-oh.
If I'm not very late, Yoshika makes an anti shotgunning ring of bullets when you get too close to her during the first attack (the one where she summons 2 spirits at both sides, at least on normal)
Edit: also noticed that fairies on the eientei stage of PoFV also wear bunny ears. I remember reading somewhere here that IN's stage also had some of this :> Don't really remember if PoFV was mentioned, can't seem to find that post either OTL
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Regardless of the ring of bullets, rushing up to her and slowly streaming backwards is the easiest way to beat that card.
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There is no spirit world version of miko theme? Boohoo...:'(
And, eirin is the only final boss that become a midboss in her stage
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EX-Keine's final card is slightly different depending on whether you focus or unfocus it.
And the Blue Amulets in Xu Fu's Dimension don't have hitboxes
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EX-Keine's first spell does the same thing too. As for the blue amulets, I thought it's because their hitboxes are below where the player's hitbox is at the maximum bottom of the screen.
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The Bad Apple!! video has a PC98 character included. For quite some time, I wondered who the other scythe girl is until I read that it's Elly. It makes a lot of sense, though, since Bad Apple!! is the theme of her stage.
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EX-Keine's first spell does the same thing too. As for the blue amulets, I thought it's because their hitboxes are below where the player's hitbox is at the maximum bottom of the screen.
Oh wait sorry, was mistaken due to immunity for the first 2 seconds in spell practice.
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EX-Keine's final card is slightly different depending on whether you focus or unfocus it.
And the Blue Amulets in Xu Fu's Dimension don't have hitboxes
EX-Keine's first spell does the same thing too. As for the blue amulets, I thought it's because their hitboxes are below where the player's hitbox is at the maximum bottom of the screen.
A few Familiar using attacks are like this. Mainly Keine's (her nonspells) Though Wriggle has one I believe.
And the blue can hit you, move up a bit from the bottom and you'll see.
Anyways, Cirno glows green when her ice power is fully charged in FairyWars.
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Noticed this some weeks ago, but the life bars on IaMP, after the first round (or second if going into third) of the player that lost will fade in to the new life bar pretty quickly.
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For Reisen's Visionary Tuning and Illusion Seeker, Reisen will always try to move in front of you. She also will move a set distance so if she's close enough she will move past you. If she's right above you she will still move though.
And Reimu shoots amulets if you get too close for Danmaku Bounded Field.
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In mamizou ten danmaku transformations, when she starts to shoot the birds, the bullet is colored green, when the bird is colored red
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I was fluffing around and playing EoSD, when I got to Remilia.
Then I noticed that fog-stuff that looks like wings flapping.
And then I realized something, It's created by Remilia's wings.
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Just about every Touhou character has some kind of hair accessory.
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Just about every Touhou character has some kind of hair accessory.
Sara, Parsee, Byakuren, Nue, Kogasa, Yumemi, Yuuka (RedWhite)
So on so forth.
Suwako's sprite in Hisoutensoku has Blue eyes
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The game's called Ten Desires because Toyosatomimi no Miko can hear ten things at once.
I am a sophomore college student. =D
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I am a sophomore college student. =D
And what's this got to do with Touhou :V
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Suika = 萃香
萃香 = gather fragrance
萃香 = turns herself into a mist that gathers people
萃 = collect/gather
塊 = collection/clump/gathering
鬼 = oni
塊 = visual pun on 鬼
i don't even
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May not be news to a lot of people, but I just discovered that stage 4 isn't the only stage that is shown in demo on the title screen of PCB - you can also view stage 5 with Reimu A and stage 3 with Marisa B, I think.
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In MarisaB's good end for MoF, she mentions that she doesn't know what the inside of a shrine looks like; she's never been in the Hakurei Shrine because Reimu says that a God resides there.
WHAT GOD??
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In MarisaB's good end for MoF, she mentions that she doesn't know what the inside of a shrine looks like; she's never been in the Hakurei Shrine because Reimu says that a God resides there.
WHAT GOD??
It's already been said that the shrine has a god. It's just never been mentioned who or what that god is.
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Also she means the literal shrine housing the god, not Reimu's house per se.
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This was a while ago, but recently it finally hit me what the meaning of the Shuusou Gyoku extra stage theme's name is.
The silk road was an ancient route connecting the western world with the eastern.
The extra stage is VIVIT crossing the world to Japan in search of the holy grail. It crosses over Seihou (Western) with Touhou (Eastern).
Hence, Silk Road Alice. Clever.
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zun needs a song called "alice alice"
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Suika = 萃香
萃香 = gather fragrance
萃香 = turns herself into a mist that gathers people
萃 = collect/gather
塊 = collection/clump/gathering
鬼 = oni
塊 = visual pun on 鬼
i don't even
...and watermelon, who is how smell the best sake...(learned in Moyashimon)
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zun needs a song called "alice alice"
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/MasterBigode/th_Untitled-60.png) (http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/MasterBigode/?action=view¤t=Untitled-60.png) Well he did make "Alice" music.
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Probably mentioned before: Patchy's win quote against Remilia in IaMP hints at IN.
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The game's called Ten Desires because Toyosatomimi no Miko can hear ten things at once.
I am a sophomore college student. =D
Actually her powers evolved into the ability to hear ten desires at once... so it's even more literal.
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Probably mentioned before: Patchy's win quote against Remilia in IaMP hints at IN.
As expected, you have lots of weaknesses...
If you don't catch me by surprise, you know you can't win, right?
... Uh ... really?
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Nue's midboss spells in Ten Desires have no spellcard portrait.
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... Uh ... really?
By the way...
Recently, hasn't the full moon been shaking a bit? I bet someone's up to something.
But then it COULD be about Suika.
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IaMP's full version was released after IN's, so it's more accurate that it was a call forward.
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While fighting Elis in HRtP Reimu's sprite has yellow ribbons
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Not sure if these have been posted before, but...
Mystic Square, stage 2. Those rocks that you can shoot get bigger as they fall to give a 3-D effect.
PoDD, every character gets a split second invincibility after unleashing a charge attack.
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WARNING: Oriental Sacred Place - Chapter 9 - Spoilers, I guess?
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Reading trough this chapter again today I noticed that on this (http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/572/poolofblood.jpg) page Marisa mentions a pool of blood. I hope I am not forgetting something glaringly obvious here, but the only place she could be referring to is the lake of blood from Lotus Land Story, right?
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Yeah, that's almost definitely the Lake of Blood.
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I was playing PoFV for the past few days and found out something interesting:
Cirno's theme has an organ solo in it before it loops. I didn't notice it until I played as Mystia and got to Cirno's fight. The battle prolonged for a bit and I started to hear an organ, but at that time I beat her.
So all this time, the reason I never heard it was because I beat her before the entire song even looped.
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Did you know that this year, Cirno is ⑨ Years old? (IRL) While she is assumed to be 60! :V
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Did you know that this year, Cirno is ⑨ Years old? (IRL) While in game she is 60! :V
assumed to be at least 60, you mean. She isn't given a definite age.
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but if eosd was in 2003 that means she's 8
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but if eosd was in 2003 that means she's 8
It took me a while to realize you were being sarcastic. :3
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I recently noticed that in the Extra Stage of Ten Desires, Nue doesn't have an image of herself appear whenever she activates a spell card. Too lazy and tired to do the research to back this claim up, but I think she's the only spell card-using boss in the regular shooter games of the Windows series who doesn't have this.
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Cat-Orin does the same in SA Stage 5.
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Cat-Orin does the same in SA Stage 5.
Ah yes, I remember that. But still, she was just a cat at that time, and hadn't revealed herself to us yet... (though that would've been lol-worthy if a giant picture of a cat flew on-screen when Cat-Orin activated a spell card). Nue was very much in her normal form, but still no spell card portrait.
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You cannot prove that this is Nue's true fo -- uh, hang on.
/me checks the wiki for dialogue
-- oh, she says it's her true form. D'OH!
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I don't know exactly why Nue would even claim it's her true form. If she's been tricking people for X many years and nobody has seen her true form, wouldn't claiming that it's her true form likely be a lie?
I mean why would you just admit it. Better to leave everyone confused.
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I always wonder why Komachi has coin for her bullets and it seems this is the reason:
Charon, in Greek mythology, is the ferryman of the dead. The souls of the deceased are brought to him by Hermes, and Charon ferries them across the river Acheron. He only accepts the dead which are buried or burned with the proper rites, and if they pay him an obolus (coin) for their passage. For that reason a corpse had always an obolus 1 placed under the tongue.
Those who cannot afford the passage, or are not admitted by Charon, are doomed to wander on the banks of the Styx for a hundred years. Living persons who wish to go to the underworld need a golden bough obtained from the Cumaean Sibyl. Charon is the son of Erebus and Nyx. He is depicted as an sulky old man, or as a winged demon carrying a double hammer. He is similar to the Etruscan (Charun).
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Close, but not exactly. From the translation of Komachi's PoFV profile on touhouwiki.net:
When a person dies, their spirit must cross the river to the Netherworld. It is Komachi's duty to ferry the dead across the river. The width and depth of the river changes depending on her mood. Also, if someone has done too much evil during their lifetime, they may even not be able to cross the river.
A shinigami judges one to be good or bad not by the amount of crimes, but by money. That is to say, not the money that the deceased may have had while they were alive, but rather the total amount of those who yearned and missed that person from the bottom of their hearts. By the way, judging the amount of crimes of the dead is not Komachi's job and would be handled after crossing the river, but that's a story for another time.
After death, when she requests a passage fee from them, people tend to be surprised since the money they have on hand doesn't correspond to their own assets, but on the assets of his or her surrounding friends.
Very rich people tend to be despised during their life, and are astonished to see how little they have after death.
Komachi always demands those she guides to pay all the money they have, and anyone who hesitates to pay the full sum is dropped into the river midway through the journey. The river is made infinitely wide, and the unfortunate spirit is soon consumed by huge fishes and sea dinosaurs which were extinct in world of the living.
It's more a Japanese/shinto (?) thing rather than Greek, though the similarities can be seen in the concept of the Ferryman of the dead.
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I don't know exactly why Nue would even claim it's her true form. If she's been tricking people for X many years and nobody has seen her true form, wouldn't claiming that it's her true form likely be a lie?
I mean why would you just admit it. Better to leave everyone confused.
I think it's because she wasn't planning on letting the heroine live. She was most likely under the mindset that if anyone saw her true form she would be sealed underground again, so even if she claimed it was fake she felt the need to take action.
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I think it's because she wasn't planning on letting the heroine live. She was most likely under the mindset that if anyone saw her true form she would be sealed underground again, so even if she claimed it was fake she felt the need to take action.
Exactly what I was thinking. To quote the pre-battle dialogue with her (with Reimu):
But now that you've seen me, I'll have to bury you
so I can go back to being an unknown.
But still, she says this after the fact, so, like Drake asks, why come out and reveal her true form in the first place?
I kinda see it as sort of a taunt. IIRC, Nue appeared before the heroine to "congratulate" her on unsealing Byakuren. Afterward, she likely planned to kill the heroine, since she had already started to figure her out (by breaking one of the "UFO"s and chasing after the Seed of Unknown Form that emerged from it), and revealed her true form, since it would be the last thing the heroine would see anyway.
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Or maybe she says that to everyone who sees her so they all have different stories and confuse each other more.
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re: undefined fantastic opantsu
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I always wonder why Futo has a boat in her spell cards: maybe this is the reason??
Nigihayahi
[Nigihayahi no mikoto] (Kojiki)
A kami claimed as ancestor of the Mononobe clan. According to Nihongi, Nigihayayi descended from heaven in the "heavenly rock boat," took for wife Mikashigiyahime (younger sister of Nagasunehiko), and thus fathered Umashimade no mikoto. The account in Kojiki is similar, except that Nigihayahi is described as marrying Tomiyahime, younger sister of Tomibiko, and thus fathering Umashimade.
During emperor Jinmu's eastern expedition, the local leader Nagasunehiko opposed the Yamato leader, since he claimed to follow Nigihayahi, whom he called an offspring of the heavenly kami (amatsukami). Nigihayahi, however, killed Nagasunehiko and submitted to Jinmu. Both Kojiki and Nihongi record that Jinmu likewise recognized Nigihayahi as an offspring of heavenly kami. One theory interprets Nigihayahi as a child of Amenooshihomimi, but he was likely a kami that originally appeared in a different legendary lineage of the Mononobe clan.
Not to mention this:
Water invigorates the vital life energy called ch'i. Feng shui advisers recommend water features in homes such as aquariums, ponds or fountains to create ch'i. Just by being on a boat, you are one step ahead of the natural flow of life land lovers must create with decorations.
Source:
http://eos.kokugakuin.ac.jp/modules/xwords/entry.php?entryID=113
http://www.ehow.com/how_2077482_feng-shui-boat.html#ixzz1b3PUfDeB
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Miko (http://safebooru.org//images/662/daba13a0b352ab0a2d335d79106f1dbd73c56e7f.png).
Sasha (http://safebooru.org//images/77/20ad9db8d068a34c1ee010ffc9cb488fc8b7f2d0.jpeg).
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Miko (http://safebooru.org//images/662/daba13a0b352ab0a2d335d79106f1dbd73c56e7f.png).
Sasha (http://safebooru.org//images/77/20ad9db8d068a34c1ee010ffc9cb488fc8b7f2d0.jpeg).
What about them?
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Just realised something tho...
Heng'e (姮娥) is the Moon goddess who was originally in China. She was the wife of Houyi (2100 BC), who shot 9 sons of the Heavenly King to save the Earth from burning. (The last son is now the Sun) Heng'e later drank the Immortal Elixir and flied onto the Moon. Unable to return, she stayed there and became its goddess.
The funny thing is, here, her name contains the word 姮 means Heng'e herself, but sounds the same as 恆 : always, eternal.
The other word, 娥, means beautiful girl, the moon. Both of them was usually compared to a jewelry, especially the Moon in poetry.
"The Moon shines like a jade." They said.
So I combine those words and look at what I found: Eternal Beautiful Jewel. And bash me if I'm wrong, but that's the name of our doctor: Eirin.
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What a coincidence. But isn't it Chang'e and not Heng'e?
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The Aki sisters have stage fright (watch kinema kan)
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The Aki sisters have stage fright (watch kinema kan)
Er, kinema kan isn't canon. it's fanmade. That's like saying "Wriggle cross-dresses." =/
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Er, kinema kan isn't canon. it's fanmade. That's like saying "Wriggle cross-dresses." =/
So true.
With Touhou fanon is pretty much accepted as canon because there isn't really much to draw from canon to describe any of the characters, unless something is stated explicitly like Yuyuko's foolishness in IN with the eating thing.
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Not really something I haven't noticed ever, just forgotten.
A few years back, I read through a few character profiles on the wiki and noticed that it said sakuya can control time AND space.
Looking back at my memories, I seem to only remember seeing fanworks where sakuya can only control time.
I was almost convinced that she could only control time until recently.
I had a dream where sakuya turned the SDM into an apartment building in manhattan. (or "Scarlet Devil Manhattan Condos")
This lead me to question whether sakuya can really control space or not.
Looked back on the wiki and noticed it said only time under abilities.
Then I scroll down and see
ZUN commented she can manipulate space (such as the interior of the Scarlet Devil Mansion) as well as time.
So she can manipulate space, but I haven't found any fanworks concerning it.
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Er, kinema kan isn't canon. it's fanmade. That's like saying "Wriggle cross-dresses." =/
I didn't think about that. Thanks for correcting me.
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ZUN commented through Akyu that she's the one that expands the SDM and manipulates a hammerspace for her knives and such. Akyu speculates that slowing time is akin to closing a space and speeding time up is akin to opening a space. But, her ability is still to manipulate time alone. She does not have "manipulation of space" even if through manipulation of time she may be able to change some spacial aspects.
In addition it's also said that even if she could reverse time, you cannot undo things that have already happened, so effectively there is no reversing time. Or rather, space is not a function of time despite being related to it.
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What about them?
They both have Gravity Defying hair
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They both have Gravity Defying hair
I assumed it was part of miko's headphones.
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Reading this I thought that it was surprisingly like Yuyuko... Maybe Yuyuko's eating habit is based on this? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost#In_Buddhism)
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Reading this I thought that it was surprisingly like Yuyuko... Maybe Yuyuko's eating habit is based on this? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost#In_Buddhism)
iirc, yuyuko did not start as a hungry ghost.
It's possible some fan came across that article or similar, it reminded them of yuyuko, and called yuyuko a hungry ghost.
Did not pay attention to PCB dialog, too many bullets.
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Pretty sure the Yuyuko eating Mystia meme started that trend, though ZUN later made it canon. The origin itself probably came from that though.
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It is likely that was its origin, since hungry ghosts aren't that uncommon in Japanese and Chinese mythology.
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Miko (http://safebooru.org//images/662/daba13a0b352ab0a2d335d79106f1dbd73c56e7f.png).
Sasha (http://safebooru.org//images/77/20ad9db8d068a34c1ee010ffc9cb488fc8b7f2d0.jpeg).
>sees this
>shits bricks
Didn't notice that. Although Sasha's hair is much more gravity-defying.
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> Miko fanart
THE SHICHISEIKEN('s sheath) HAS EYES.
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In Futo's official portrait, besides the two strings that flow on its own behind her head, you see five sections/parts(?) of the strings on her nice hat. She's a Stage 5 boss.
/well I guess it isn't crazy but I just realized this after I decided to try and draw Futo's iconic pose and whatnot.
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There are much better characters than Sakuya trollface.jpg
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There are much better characters than Sakuya trollface.jpg
Is this supposed to mean something, or are you really just trolling? Maybe she is a little flat-chested, but not all of us have a problem with that. :3
Anyway, I was playing PoDD, and I noticed that one of Yumemi's attacks is almost identical to Shinki's opening attack, and that Kana Anabarel (or whatever her name is) does something which was clearly copied by Yuuka in LLS. (Yuuka also uses this in PoFV)
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Is this supposed to mean something, or are you really just trolling? Maybe she is a little flat-chested, but not all of us have a problem with that. :3
Anyway, I was playing PoDD, and I noticed that one of Yumemi's attacks is almost identical to Shinki's opening attack, and that Kana Anabarel (or whatever
her name is) does something which was clearly copied by Yuuka in LLS. (Yuuka also uses this in PoFV)
Nah I just find Sakuya somewhat boring or overrated. Also how did you get the PC-98 games? I downloaded them but I can't figure out how to play them. Your guidance would be much appreciated.
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The beginning of Old Yuanshen sounds remotely similar to that of Wind God Girl :V
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Pressing the right arrow key takes you to the user replays.
::)
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Sakuya can Perfect Maid in midair in Hisoutensoku. :o
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Yuyuko's theme "Ghost Lead" can be read as "Ghost Lied".
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I don't think you pronounce 'lied' as you do リード. Read, lead, feed, mead, weed, etc.
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I don't think you pronounce 'lied' as you do リード. Read, lead, feed, mead, weed, etc.
Assuming he ment the german word "Lied", which means "song" in english, it's pronounced the same way as "Lead".
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There is a bug in a spell practice at ten desires where soga no tojiko's spellcard, if you die right at the time you defeat tojiko it will result in TOjiko's prite becomes futo sprite
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Shikieki is canonically stronger than Yukari, but why? I've thought about this for a while, and my initial answer was just because she has raw, absolute power.
But that word - Absolute - Has made me come up with a little theory that goes just a little bit farther.
Yukari's power is boundaries and borders. Shikieki's ability is absolute judgment.
No matter how much Yukari manipulates a border, its two sides will always exist. For a border to reach one side completely would mean it's no longer a border.
At the same time, Shikieki practically lives on the edges of the two sides. In other words, she's untouchable by boundary manipulation.
For example, if Yukari moved the border of right and wrong to make practically everything 'wrong,' Shikieki would still be righteous. Why? Because she is always at the absolute edge of the 'right' side, the point that the boundary can never overtake, and judges everything by these absolute edges - An untouchable standard.
It's a little ambitious of a theory, and I certainly don't suggest this is the main reason Shikieiki is stronger than Yukari, but it's a nice image to show the difference between the two.
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I've probably mentioned it before, but Yukari says that Yuyuko, Reimu and herself together are "no match" for the Yama. Most people seem to immediately jump to say Shikieiki > everyone, which is a possibility I suppose, but it's really tough to say looking at the context. It isn't like Yukari was going to start a fight with the Yama or anything, and it wouldn't progress beyond a danmaku fight anyways, so why bother leaving in the first place? Obviously, it was to avoid her lectures. In an argument, there's no way any of them could beat Shikieiki; she would have them there for ages. The words used are 逆らえない which is "shouldn't defy/disobey", and 退却 which is "retreat". They aren't exactly "cannot defeat" and "leave"; it seems to me to be more of a play by Yukari like "we don't want her to see us; we'd better make a tactical retreat" (because she's a bother).
Or, you could take it to mean "she could really screw us over if we got on her bad side". The Yamas govern Hakugyokurou, which gives her precedence over Yuyuko; Reimu is simply a human and will end up being judged one day; and who knows what kind of crap Eiki has on Yukari.
Either way I don't truly give in to the "Shiki is more powerful than Yukari, Yuyuko and Reimu because Yukari wanted to leave before they crossed paths" thing.
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Younger sisters are almost always stronger than their older sister.
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Mamizou notes and sake bottle are floating at the official art
or it has string in it :V
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@Drake:
Well, I am one of those people that do believe it, because that is what I am getting from the reading, but if a better translation says otherwise,
I will probably change my view. Right now, when I read A Beautiful Flower Blooming Violet Every Sixty Years, from the context it seems to imply
"a very strong presence" (I assume this means Eiki) to be extremely powerful, because of their entrance(flowers fearing their presence and all that).
Also, I assume she does not mean fighting via spell card rules, because everyone supposedly has an equal chances or something like that in spell
card rules.
Some things I never realize back then. I remember reading that the Hakurei Barrier was created in 1885 and I could never find the source.
So, I couldn't understand why that was fact, since from what I know, there's a barrier of sorts hundreds of years ago in Yukari's profile.
Until, of course someone pointed out that in PoFV there is mention of it and I was like, oh I finally figured out why.
Oh, and I used to think Rumia and Remilia were the same person.
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I don't really know what to add without seeming stupid...
Alice calls Reimu a bitch in Imperishable Night-I just realised how snarky she is in all the non-fighting games when talking to Marisa. it makes sense, but I lol'd at their interactions in IN. And she seems bloodthirsty against Eirin... Just going against fan perception as a timid girl, I guess...
Also, I JUST realised that Nue Houjuu is a midboss in TD, making her the first and only Extra Boss to be delegated to midboss level...
Kinda like poor Kogasa, and Stage 1 Yuyuko...
URAMESHIYA!!!!!!!!!!
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Also, I JUST realised that Nue Houjuu is a midboss in TD, making her the first and only Extra Boss to be delegated to midboss level...
Technically, Ran is Yukari's midboss, but it's in the Phantasm stage, which made her just a much harder version of Chen.
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I don't really know what to add without seeming stupid...
Alice calls Reimu a bitch in Imperishable Night-I just realised how snarky she is in all the non-fighting games when talking to Marisa. it makes sense, but I lol'd at their interactions in IN. And she seems bloodthirsty against Eirin... Just going against fan perception as a timid girl, I guess...
Also, I JUST realised that Nue Houjuu is a midboss in TD, making her the first and only Extra Boss to be delegated to midboss level...
Kinda like poor Kogasa, and Stage 1 Yuyuko...
URAMESHIYA!!!!!!!!!!
I believe fans think Alice is timid because her profile states she's a coward. That and she is very mild-mannered in the fighting games a lot of the times, and described as helping humans in such a fashion in Perfect Memento.
However, this is all BECAUSE of the cowardice. Alice IS a psychopath of sorts. As shown in IN, and even in some of the fighting games (she starts to get particularly snarky with Tenshi, for example). In addition, Perfect Memento says she enjoys getting into duels.
If this explanation seems mixed up/contradictory, that would be because Alice's personality is a bit complicated, in large part thanks to that cowardice. ....okay, I'll admit, I'm distracted in real life now too, so apologies if this explanation ends up being a bit incoherent or contradictory.
As pointed out by Suika, she basically avoids the strong youkai while interacting with humans and weaker youkai. So you'll see her acting mild mannered when the threat of strong youkai are around (check out her interactions with the SDM in the fighting games. She even explicitly states she doesn't want to run into the mistress, which likely explains why she's so polite to its denizons. She's more than happy to attack Sakuya when Sakuya is away from the SDM in the fighting games, though) while being snarky when dealing with beings she's familiar with (Reimu, Marisa, and possibly Yukari).
By default, given her interactions with Suika,Tenshi, the three fairies (before she knew they were fairies), and Eirin, she seems to run under the assumption that new people she meets can be taken on. I'm going to assume this is because she's overall confident in her abilities (thus overall willing to tackle new threats without bothering to research/worry about them being too powerful), yet realizes that her ego will be shattered if she's ever defeated while fighting at full power.
Her interaction with the three fairies also shows that it's a bit of a defensive measure. She's hostile to new beings because she thinks they're a threat to her (which might be a bit of a form of cowardice as well, as a being who knows little of fear probably wouldn't get so defensive), but once she finds out the three fairies are just fairies, she suddenly becomes much more friendly to them.
Or... something like that.
Given my current distracted state in real life, I'm not sure if I should be pressing the "Post" button to this or not.
.....eh, oh well, here goes.
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I've probably mentioned it before, but Yukari says that Yuyuko, Reimu and herself together are "no match" for the Yama. Most people seem to immediately jump to say Shikieiki > everyone, which is a possibility I suppose, but it's really tough to say looking at the context. It isn't like Yukari was going to start a fight with the Yama or anything, and it wouldn't progress beyond a danmaku fight anyways, so why bother leaving in the first place? Obviously, it was to avoid her lectures. In an argument, there's no way any of them could beat Shikieiki; she would have them there for ages. The words used are 逆らえない which is "shouldn't defy/disobey", and 退却 which is "retreat". They aren't exactly "cannot defeat" and "leave"; it seems to me to be more of a play by Yukari like "we don't want her to see us; we'd better make a tactical retreat" (because she's a bother).
Or, you could take it to mean "she could really screw us over if we got on her bad side". The Yamas govern Hakugyokurou, which gives her precedence over Yuyuko; Reimu is simply a human and will end up being judged one day; and who knows what kind of crap Eiki has on Yukari.
Either way I don't truly give in to the "Shiki is more powerful than Yukari, Yuyuko and Reimu because Yukari wanted to leave before they crossed paths" thing.
I think it's both. Maybe "power" is not the best word, but Shikieiki's "authority" should be supreme. It has to be, because part of her job is sending very powerful beings to their punishments in hell, and that couldn't happen if powerful ghosts could rebel and start smashing things. So she has ways to control and compel everyone, which mean no chances to "fight" her and end up winning. (games like spellcards apart, of course)
That aside, she's also a good meaning person with the ability to be always right, and a meddlesome, nagging personality. This makes her a very disagreeable company for people like Yukari and Yuyuko (and, to be frank, to Reimu and 99% of Gensokyans).
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That aside, she's also a good meaning person with the ability to be always right, and a meddlesome, nagging personality. This makes her a very disagreeable company for people like Yukari and Yuyuko (and, to be frank, to Reimu and 99% of Gensokyans).
Well, I can't say much for how to interpret Yukari's statement about Shiki's power (I don't speak Japanese), but the above quoted part is pretty much canonically confirmed. Akyu specifically states that youkai avoid Shiki for this reason (and also states that almost all long-lived youkai have been helped by Shiki at least once in their long lives. Of note is that both Tewi and Yuka appear to recognize and be familiar with Shiki off the bat in POFV, too)
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I've probably mentioned it before, but Yukari says that Yuyuko, Reimu and herself together are "no match" for the Yama. Most people seem to immediately jump to say Shikieiki > everyone, which is a possibility I suppose, but it's really tough to say looking at the context. It isn't like Yukari was going to start a fight with the Yama or anything, and it wouldn't progress beyond a danmaku fight anyways, so why bother leaving in the first place? Obviously, it was to avoid her lectures. In an argument, there's no way any of them could beat Shikieiki; she would have them there for ages. The words used are 逆らえない which is "shouldn't defy/disobey", and 退却 which is "retreat". They aren't exactly "cannot defeat" and "leave"; it seems to me to be more of a play by Yukari like "we don't want her to see us; we'd better make a tactical retreat" (because she's a bother).
Either way I don't truly give in to the "Shiki is more powerful than Yukari, Yuyuko and Reimu because Yukari wanted to leave before they crossed paths" thing.
Yes, thank you, I was starting to think I was the only one who interpreted it that way. Think about it, when was the last time anyone in Gensokyo disinclined to fight someone just because the other is stronger?
Plus, Shikieiki's ability is to see things in black and white, which would probably neatly counter Yukari and Yuyuko's tendency to use troll logic to confuse people. Would be much less of a bother for the lazy squad to simply relocate.
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As an aside, I doubt Shiki lectures (...or attacks, if that's still an open question) Yuyuko EVERY time Shiki sees her. I'm under the assumption Yuyuko went along with Yukari's decision to leave more for Yukari's sake than anything else. After all, she's an employee of yama (and it's confirmed in Youmu's ending
that Shiki drops by talk with Yuyuko about other subjects from time to time. In this case, Youmu's training
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Alice calls Reimu a bitch in Imperishable Night
She was quoting Marisa.
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She also didn't say bitch.
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As an aside, I doubt Shiki lectures (...or attacks, if that's still an open question) Yuyuko EVERY time Shiki sees her. I'm under the assumption Yuyuko went along with Yukari's decision to leave more for Yukari's sake than anything else. After all, she's an employee of yama (and it's confirmed in Youmu's ending that Shiki drops by talk with Yuyuko about other subjects from time to time. In this case, Youmu's training
Yeah, I agree, I don't think Eiki attacks anybody. It doesn't make any sense for her to attack, defend herself and other people, but not attack.
@haoreos2:
The reason I interpret it like that is because of the text and the context of the text, if the translation is correct. They were pretty
much talking about combat ability in that context. Since prior to her arrival, they talk about her passive power output.
However, I do not believe Eiki would actually attack anybody.
Also given who Eiki is, it makes sense. Her title pretty much tells you she is THE Yama or Enma, as they are interchangeable.
So, her rule is second to none in the world of the dead. In almost all mythologies, Death, if it has a form, is considered powerful and
absolute, and that is what Eiki essentially represents.
This is probably why you don't see her, she is not of Gensokyo or of this world, as she puts it.
Also, Yuuka hints to us that she believes Eiki is probably the strongest in Gensokyo from her quote:
Do you think when you're not teased,
you're above everyone else?
Let's make it as clear as black and white who of us is the strongest in Gensokyo!
With both of these, I assume A Beautiful Flower Blooming Violet Every Sixty Years refers actual strength.
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The reason I interpret it like that is because of the text and the context of the text, if the translation is correct. They were pretty much talking about combat ability in that context. Since prior to her arrival, they talk about her passive power output.
The translation is correct, it just isn't literally correct. The "context" you're talking about is also misinterpreted by taking the whole passage fairly literally. They were not talking about combat ability.
wikitrans: very strong presence
jappo: 大きな気
meaning: large presence; the "strong" used is more like "grandiose" or "important" or whatever, than actual power
wikitrans: we're no match for them
jappo: あの方には逆らえない
meaning: as for them, should not oppose; while it could mean "stronger", isn't necessarily, given the characters, setting, and gensokyo in general
As I mentioned, I take it to mean more of Yukari going "Err, I think the Yama's coming. Better skedaddle before she sees us." Of course, as previously said, it doesn't directly contradict the possibility of Shiki > everyone. It does however contradict using the passage as absolute evidence that Shiki > everyone. Most people just seem to take those passages the wrong way, and I myself don't particularly follow that stance. And again, I still acknowledge that Shikieiki is incredibly powerful. Just not objectively the most powerful.
And even if you take the title to mean actual strength (even though it likely doesn't and is just a wordplay on Yukari's name and the flowers that are the subject matter of 90% of the story), wouldn't it be weird to just imply that Shiki only becomes strong every sixty years?
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@Drake: (Regarding the swearing) Oh? In my translation, which I got from the wiki, she does. Not in a particularly mean manner, though.
@Starxsword: I doubt she would attack anyone, really, if they didn't do it first (which, as an aside, actually supports the not-talking-about-her-power theory). She's very reasonable, despite what fanon seems to show. Plus, she is referred to as the yama in charge of Gensokyo, which means she isn't the only one. More like a county sherriff, or something. I also think her theme is closer to the judge of the dead than death itself, which would be more fitting for the shinigami (the ones that actually do the reaping, not the ferrymen like Komachi), and it is already shown that people without cracks in their hearts can consistently defeat them in any case. As for Yuuka, as far as I know, she hasn't actually met Yukari, Suika, the oni king, tengu boss... well, anyone most people would consider in the running, really, except for Shikieiki. She spends most of her time in a flower field or the human village.
I don't actually remember where the conversation takes place, though. I do recall deciding against the Yukari-was-referring-to-power interpretation, but without having the text in front of me I can't remark on that.
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She says 「邪魔だ、そこをどけ」. While そこをどけ p much means "get out of the way", 邪魔 means interruption/hindrance/obstacle/a bother, or something to that extent. While it is rude (of course she's also quoting something Marisa would say), she doesn't explicitly say "bitch", which if she wanted to could have been said a million different ways that had nothing to do with the implicit rudeness of the statement.
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@Drake:
Oh, I see. I guess getting context is difficult, because of translation.
I think it is the influence of all the fighting animes I watch. I was under the impression that 大きな気 meant huge ki.
I also believe the title is more likely a wordplay on Yukari's name.
That is a case of translation and interpretation, heh.
@haoreos2:
Yeah, there are more than one Yama, but she is ranked the highest. At least, if her title: Highest Judge of Paradise, is to be believed.
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Paradise being Gensokyo, innit? I.E, top Yama of Gensokyo.
@Drake: well yeah, she wouldn't have said the word itself, being an english word, but it's the meaning that counts. Besides, the music change when Marisa says it fits far too well =3
Must admit I paused and laughed in disbelief for about half a minute the first time I got that far.
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Paradise being Gensokyo, innit? I.E, top Yama of Gensokyo.
That is possible, but I don't believe so. It is up to your interpretation. I can only present evidence.
Eiki mentions she is not of Gensokyo in PoFV and she is referred to by Akyuu as the supreme judge of hell.
Some relevant quotes from PMiSS:
One of the many Yamas.
As she is in charge of judging the dead of Gensokyo, she is the Yama with the closest ties to us. (*1)
1: Yamaxanadu is actually a job title at the Ministry of Right and Wrong. The meaning is literal: the Yama of Paradise.
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True, it is a matter of interpretation. If it's worth anything, in Buddhism there are ten Yama for each hell, which means it's a pretty small group in any case.
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Most of the Windows titles are vaguely obvious.
Embodiment of Scarlet Devil - Remi
Perfect Cherry Blossom - Yuyuko's goal
Immaterial and Missing Power - Suika
Imperishable Night - What happens
Shoot the Bullet - Photo Shoot of Bullets
Mountain of Faith - The mounrain is where they seek faith. Also Kanako is tryng to gather a 'mountain of faith'
Fairy Wars - Obvious
Ten Desires - Miko's ability to hear ten desires
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Undefined Fantastic Object - The mysterious flying object in the sky which turns out to be the Palanquin ship.
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody - Scarlet temperament flowing from everyones bodies, creating various effects to the weather.
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Phantom Ensemble uses all of the Prismrivers' instruments.
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Marisa only has three fingers in UFO
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Reimu and Mamizou's post-battle conversation mentions the sea very much, almost to the point of "I think ZUN's trying too hard to foreshadow here."
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I have yet to see a fanwork of Yamame(disease) and Eirin(Medicine) fighting each other.
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Almost every non-boss theme in SWR has the same main melody
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The movement speed gets faster in every Touhou game, not including PoFV.
This is especially noticeable when you can control 120 FPS Reimu easily in EoSD and you're just flailing around in UFO-and TD in noticeably faster.
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The movement speed gets faster in every Touhou game, not including PoFV.
This is especially noticeable when you can control 120 FPS Reimu easily in EoSD and you're just flailing around in UFO-and TD in noticeably faster.
How do you survive running at that speed? Anything above 61 FPS for me is like lightning to me or in other words, feels like an Ex-level with rapid shots.
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I was actually playing EoSD at 31-35fps
I'm winning at normal mode but its kinda cheating since you get to notice the bullets...
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Well that is definitely cheating, but getting to "notice the bullets" isn't.
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The movement speed gets faster in every Touhou game, not including PoFV.
This is especially noticeable when you can control 120 FPS Reimu easily in EoSD and you're just flailing around in UFO-and TD in noticeably faster.
I think the movement speeds are the same in everything past PoFV, at least for Reimu. But yeah, going earlier than those, the movement gets slower and slower.
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In Hisoutensoku, it appears that the last few enemies you fight in arcade mode mimic the storyline of another game.
For example, Suika appears to only be encountered (or at least almost all of the time) as the final enemy you fight but only if Yukari was the second last boss. Mimicking the storyline of IaMP.
Suwako has the same relationship with Okuu, appearing only after her as the final boss in accordance to the soku main storyline and even Tenshi does the same with Iku.
It may even be the same for Remi and Sakuya and Yuyuko and Youmu, but I haven't looked into it so far, but the ones above are confirmed.
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Marisa only has three fingers in UFO
Hello there. (http://gyazo.com/a90265ebce6278ab5cbbd5759cee02bc.png) :V
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How do you survive running at that speed? Anything above 61 FPS for me is like lightning to me or in other words, feels like an Ex-level with rapid shots.
Practice, spotting large gaps and reflexes, as well as a lot of 90 FPS experience. Playing at 90 makes 60 seem slow, and 120 makes 90 seem slow.
I feel kind of derp for not noticing this yet, but Youmu's sword slash charge time is less at higher power. Which explains why I kept mistiming slashes at low power.
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Hello there. (http://gyazo.com/a90265ebce6278ab5cbbd5759cee02bc.png) :V
....?
Yukari's sprite in StB has blue ribbons instead of red. Like how it was on her cutin/background for IN. Though her background in StB has red ribbons.
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In Hisoutensoku, it appears that the last few enemies you fight in arcade mode mimic the storyline of another game.
For example, Suika appears to only be encountered (or at least almost all of the time) as the final enemy you fight but only if Yukari was the second last boss. Mimicking the storyline of IaMP.
Suwako has the same relationship with Okuu, appearing only after her as the final boss in accordance to the soku main storyline and even Tenshi does the same with Iku.
It may even be the same for Remi and Sakuya and Yuyuko and Youmu, but I haven't looked into it so far, but the ones above are confirmed.
I knew this already, I would always try to guess which one I would encounter.
I'm pretty sure that it only applies to the (general) last two bosses in each story.
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....?
How about now? (http://gyazo.com/452c57a2c7fa5519d288ff6253a2f59d.png)
11 fingers
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How about now? (http://gyazo.com/452c57a2c7fa5519d288ff6253a2f59d.png)
11 fingers
NOPE it still 10 fingers to me
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NOPE it still 10 fingers to me
There's the thumb hiding. Those 5 on her left hand are just her other fingers
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So its a finger error huh....
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Where's that pic from? the one of Marisa. Cause I don;t remember seeing it in PCB.
Yuuka has a habit of attacking the weaker characters in PoFV. Such as Mystia, Cirno, etc.
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Where's that pic from? the one of Marisa. Cause I don;t remember seeing it in PCB.
It's from the earliest demo. Which I still want a copy of.
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Almost every stage 1 theme has the same beginning notes/sounds
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Almost every stage 1 theme has the same beginning notes/sounds
Umm, no. Menu theme, maybe, but certainly not Stage 1 themes.
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The word Touhou is never used in the games, ever. It's only in the title and a few songs.
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When you defeat Yumeko, she has blood on her clothes.
Probably because she just finished massacring me. X(
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It's from the earliest demo. Which I still want a copy of.
As do I. I've seen the alternate pictures of Sakuya he has on PCB's page, but they are never used. :\
In Touhou 9, when I played as Sakuya through normal mode, she says to Cirno, "Should you continue to torment frogs, you will find yourself in a regrettable situation with a frog youkai some day." Then Suwako appears in the next game. (if you exclude StB)
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Except Suwako isn't a frog demon. Cirno did get eaten by a giant toad once according to BAiJR, however.
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Koishi means "little rock".
There's a town in Arkansas called Little Rock.
Therefore...
:getdown:
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Yuyuko freaks out if you get right next to her in her first non-spell. This is in Normal Mode and is not altered in any way. (http://puu.sh/5Gzo) Kaguya does something similar in one of her non-spells, but I can't time it right to get a screenshot, sorry. (Possibly others do this, too? I've tested on a few other bosses and haven't found anything yet.)
Just found out Patchouli does it too. Not sure if this has been mentioned. Earth Sign "Rage Trilithon High Level" Stage 4 ? Normal (Reimu-A), Hard/Lunatic (Marisa-B)
(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5870/patch1h.th.png) (http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5870/patch1h.png)
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8703/patch2.th.png) (http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8703/patch2.png)
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Colour me slow here but I just realised you fight Sakuya and Youmu three times in a row in their respective games. And you fight Orin like 30 times.
EDIT: Can't unhear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8MMpmy_Qn8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmYR5EXJ64Q
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I just realized Rumia is actually in the Bad Apple silhouette MV, between Remilia and Sakuya. You can see her hair ribbon!
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Look again; it's Sakuya's apron bow on her back.
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Look again; it's Sakuya's apron bow on her back.
Oh, shucks! D:
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The big blue wave that appears in some of Okuu's spells is the explosion fairies make when you shoot them.
Koishi's survival spell makes that alarm sound.
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Have been playing Imperishable Night to
stall studying beat Mokou and noticed a couple things. Lunarians seem to typically have really light hair, sometimes with a slight hue of another color. Yet Kaguya has black hair, like an Earthbound human. Meanwhile, Mokou, who is canonically a Japanese human (albeit a really old/immortal one), has her purple tint white hair. They swtiched? I'd think the Hourai Elixir had something to do with it or their extreme ages (and Lunarians might just go the opposite direction in terms of hair color), but there is the white-haired-and-older-than-Kaguya Eirin to consider in opposition to the latter idea.
Sorry if this is too obvious, but this one made me totally have a spazz attack. If Kaguya and Mokou had no reason for their feud (meaning Kaguya didn't reject Mokou's father), then Kaguya would have been Mokou's step-mother instead... :V
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Sorry if this is too obvious, but this one made me totally have a spazz attack. If Kaguya and Mokou had no reason for their feud (meaning Kaguya didn't reject Mokou's father), then Kaguya would have been Mokou's step-mother instead... :V
I always kinda thought it odd... that Mokou's father was going after the exceedingly young-looking Kaguya.
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Cirno is known as 9. Okuu is sometimes 6. As the infamous Marisa glitch works in the intervals of the power level, 3, she should be known as 3. So thus far, we have a 3, a 6 and a 9.
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Maybe it's not new, but looking on TD high score runs i've noticed that if you kill Yoshika at Seiga's nonspells then she wont respawn till next spell.
Also is it only for me or like every replay of TD stage 4 practice causes game to crash after it ends?
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I just noticed it today while playing through TD spell practice, and I can't believe it took me this long to notice, but for Futo's first spell card in spell practice, when you defeat her, the boat is destroyed a bit before Futo is. I noticed this because I finished Futo off while she was in the middle of surfing across the screen, and the result was Futo flying across the screen without her boat. I lol'd. :V
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I just noticed it today while playing through TD spell practice, and I can't believe it took me this long to notice, but for Futo's first spell card in spell practice, when you defeat her, the boat is destroyed a bit before Futo is. I noticed this because I finished Futo off while she was in the middle of surfing across the screen, and the result was Futo flying across the screen without her boat. I lol'd. :V
Well, you practicall pulled her means of transport right from under her under motion, so... :V
Someone needs to draw that. :3
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Someone needs to draw that. :3
That's the first thing I thought when I saw that. :V We need a drawing now of Futo flying off her nice boat and faceplanting after being defeated.
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And then she slides like, on her face over the ground, her legs flip out in front of her, she flips back off the ground and goes into a roll before one final bout of aerial state and finally stopping face first into the ground where her legs get skewed upward before falling back down behind her.
I think I put way more effort into that than I should have.
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I keep thinking a couple of notes in the Bad Apple MV sound like Rumia's theme.
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Have been playing Imperishable Night to stall studying beat Mokou and noticed a couple things. Lunarians seem to typically have really light hair, sometimes with a slight hue of another color. Yet Kaguya has black hair, like an Earthbound human. Meanwhile, Mokou, who is canonically a Japanese human (albeit a really old/immortal one), has her purple tint white hair.
Could be either:
- Mokou being outside every day for centuries bleached her hair, while Kaguya staying inside preserved it, or
- Being immortal, their bodies stop producing melanin since ultraviolet rays can't hurt them anyway, thus whitening their hair. Kaguya considers this unseemly, so dyes it, whilst Mokou and Eirin don't care
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Mokou's hair used to be black, as seen in Cage in Lunatic Runagate.
Mokou is the girl sitting on the right. (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:Cilr4-118-scaled.jpg)
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Have been playing Imperishable Night to stall studying beat Mokou and noticed a couple things. Lunarians seem to typically have really light hair, sometimes with a slight hue of another color. Yet Kaguya has black hair, like an Earthbound human. Meanwhile, Mokou, who is canonically a Japanese human (albeit a really old/immortal one), has her purple tint white hair. They swtiched? I'd think the Hourai Elixir had something to do with it or their extreme ages (and Lunarians might just go the opposite direction in terms of hair color), but there is the white-haired-and-older-than-Kaguya Eirin to consider in opposition to the latter idea.
Sorry if this is too obvious, but this one made me totally have a spazz attack. If Kaguya and Mokou had no reason for their feud (meaning Kaguya didn't reject Mokou's father), then Kaguya would have been Mokou's step-mother instead... :V
Well, if Eirin's touchy about her age, maybe she permanently bleached her hair to make sure it looked white forever?
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I've kinda noticed that in general, Touhou's a setting full of cosmic horrors:
- Reimu: A priestess who can quite literally obliterate anyone she wants and can be affected by the world as much as she wishes.
- Yukari: She controls Boundaries...all Boundaries. Between Life and Death, Existence and Non-Existence, Here and There, Male and Female, Dreams and Reality...choose your pick.
- Yuugi: A Deva that control supernatural phenomena...in others, pretty much all of Gensokyo.
- Suika: Controls density...what's stopping her from growing into the size of Earth? Creating a blackhole? Creating her own star?
- Letty: She controls cold, in other words, she takes away heat...a molecule's vibrations...she controls Entropy. And she's a mother figure to Cirno!
...I think you have an idea of just how horrific Touhou can really be. I guess that really does make Marisa quite the badass, or rather, is she a frightened little girl?
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...I think you have an idea of just how horrific Touhou can really be. I guess that really does make Marisa quite the badass, or rather, is she a frightened little girl?
She could be one of those "frightened girl with a tough exterior" types, which would explain why she talks like a truck driver.
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Suika shattered the moon. considering the princesses of the moon can curbstomp Yukari and Reimu in a fight... Suika is technically one of the most dangerous beings in Gensoyoko.
Yuugi's control over the supernatural could imply that she can control the youkai and ghosts of Gensoyoko.
Aya is the fastest living thing in Gensoyoko.
Youmu is the fastest thing in Gensoyoko.
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I don't think I could buy that; Marisa is pretty nonchalantly hardcore that I don't think you could possibly "fake" it.
- Reimu: A priestess who can quite literally obliterate anyone she wants and can be affected by the world as much as she wishes.
Well, not that she would, but the rules of battle pretty much prevents needless bloodshed. She could certainly do other things, but actually killing a youkai (along with killing a human) is forbidden. Yukari however, likely holds that authority (among youkai sages) but Gensokyo is a place where you don't need to use that authority. It's making me wonder how 'common' human-human murders work, though.
- Yukari: She controls Boundaries...all Boundaries. Between Life and Death, Existence and Non-Existence, Here and There, Male and Female, Dreams and Reality...choose your pick.
While that is the case, it's been shown that Yukari doesn't really actively use strong boundary manipulation. She passively uses it in maintaining established boundaries and commonly does (small) spatial boundary creation, but those even sound easy to pull off. In addition, she gets tired using boundaries in excess, what with actually needing to hibernate, what with her body needing to regenerate, what with her just plain not abusing boundaries all the time. I'm fairly certain that each boundary is variably difficult to manipulate in contrast to another boundary. It isn't just like "oh i'll just make gravity reverse just for the fun of it"; while it sounds fun to imagine I'm sure that doing something like that would be extremely difficult, if not impossible. If one boundary is altered, it can trigger another that needs to be changed, and others, and so on. Something like spatial boundaries have two pretty well-defined sides that are easy to access, so it probably doesn't take much effort. Wiping someone out of existence or turning dreams into reality, should be leagues more difficult. While there are two sides to a boundary, it's definitely not just the flip of a switch.
- Yuugi: A Deva that control supernatural phenomena...in others, pretty much all of Gensokyo.
Yuugi's control over the supernatural could imply that she can control the youkai and ghosts of Gensoyoko.
Ehhh Yuugi's powers are better left to speculation and be forgotten. She's never used her powers for anything, and she doesn't need to. She's an oni. It's like Yuuka not really needing to use her powers in battle because her own inherent strength trumps her ability.
- Suika: Controls density...what's stopping her from growing into the size of Earth? Creating a blackhole? Creating her own star?
considering her utter disregard for the laws of physics describing density, probably nothing, i mean she did blow up the moon (see later point)
- Letty: She controls cold, in other words, she takes away heat...a molecule's vibrations...she controls Entropy. And she's a mother figure to Cirno!
Nnnnope, on both statements. The extent to which she controls the cold isn't described, but please don't make outrageous speculation like "she controls x so she ALSO controls everything related to x to the utmost extent!". Cold doesn't even have anything to do with entropy. PMiSS shows that she doesn't really show Cirno in high regard, either. Makes her look bad when people equate their powers.
Suika shattered the moon. considering the princesses of the moon can curbstomp Yukari and Reimu in a fight... Suika is technically one of the most dangerous beings in Gensoyoko.
To be more precise, she blew up the reflection of the moon. In Gensokyo, you cannot see the real moon; the sky only reflects the real moon and that is what you see. To an incomprehensible extent, Suika ripped open the sky and this shattered the visible moon.
i talk too much about these things
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I have no idea what Yuugi's ability is, it probably does nothing.
I believe Aya is faster than Youmu.
Yeah... Suika takes manipulation of density to an extreme. Most other characters don't take their abilities to that kind of extreme.
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I don't think I could buy that; Marisa is pretty nonchalantly hardcore that I don't think you could possibly "fake" it.
I don't think she's faking it per se. I have every reason to believe that she's quite comfortable in Gensokyo. But people growing up in frightening and dangerous environments (ask anyone from the inner city) will tell you that you learn to mask your fear with a very convincing tough front. This front becomes so convincing that you even start to believe it yourself. Ms. Kirisame doesn't have to deal with gunplay; she has to deal with a whole lot worse, with no police or other oversight apparatus to turn to. The idea that her tough-talkin' attitude is a front to mask real terror isn't that implausible.
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Well, Marisa is more reasonable than the likes of Remilia, Reimu, and Sakuya.
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I believe Aya is faster than Youmu.
Youmu can move a third of the speed of light with one of her spellcards.
200 Yojana in 1 Slash - 1 yojana = 13km
she does this in 1/30th of a second.
that totals to 78.000 km/s. 26% of the speed of light.
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Aya vs Youmu speed discussions
Guys, guys.
Guys.
Muffin got this! (http://dizzy.pestermom.com/?p=thcomic18)
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Guys, guys.
Guys.
Muffin got this! (http://dizzy.pestermom.com/?p=thcomic18)
...but that's like Yukari gapping. technically it's teleportation... since time doesn't pass, and it's instantaneous for everyone else.
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Hey, if speed (velocity really but technicalities aside) is measured by distance over time, then technically Sakuya is the fastest because she can move any distance in exactly 0 seconds. With infinite decimal points. She even beats gapping because using portals also takes up time, even though it could be only a small bit.
But I'm not going to continue this any further. Mostly because the argument itself is based on interpretations.
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Suika shattered the moon. considering the princesses of the moon can curbstomp Yukari and Reimu in a fight... Suika is technically one of the most dangerous beings in Gensoyoko.
Yuugi's control over the supernatural could imply that she can control the youkai and ghosts of Gensoyoko.
A fight that Reimu was reluctant to have, since they were the invaders, and Yukari wasn't even participating in. Also, shattering the moon apparently had zero affect on the Lunarians, since they didn't mention squat or do anything about it.
As for things some haven't noticed until now: powers are not absolute, nor can they always be fully controlled.
Canonically: Rumia has power incontinence, Cirno can't put out fires or lazers (at least, not as easily as normal Danmaku), Yuyuko can't kill people who wouldn't die from normal means, splashing Chen with water dispells her Shikigami power boost, Yukari can't gap to the moon whenever she wants, Keine can't hide history from Yukarivision, and so on.
Inferred or implied by canon: Youmu's concentration only applies to fighting, Komachi's distance compression is fairly limited (inferred from her SWR dialogue), Remilia's fate changing appears to require her to rename the recipient, Reisen can't invoke Lunacy as well as looking at the moon, and so forth.
Another one: many powers are too generic or vague to be discussed effectively.
Powers that are listed, but aren't used in any actual games or artbooks or the like (having not read all the books, I may be mistaken with some of these): Tewi's luck manipulation, Keine's full-moon history changing, Eirin's intelligence (I kid), Remilia's fate manipulation (mentioned to be rumoured to have been used in one article, suggesting it is tied to name fortunes), Ran's and Chen's black magic, etc.
Powers that are used, but little meaningful information about them is available: what kind of magic magicians can use (can Marisa only use lasers and stars and such, or can she do all kinds of wizardy things such as conjuration or alchemy?), Flandre's destruction (she can destroy a meteor, but what would happen if she tried on Mokou or Kaguya? Can she destroy Suika while she is dispersed, or a ghost?), Koishi's subconcious manipulation et al.
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@Irate Researchers:
Why the assumption that the slash takes 1/30 of a second? What Youmu's speed or max possible speed is not too important.
Since Aya says and is confirmed by other characters to be the fastest, Reimu uses Aya as an example of a fast character in SSiB, also
Aya's profile talks about her speed. So, if Youmu can move 26% of the speed of light, it just means Aya can move faster.
Aya also boasted that she is the fastest in Gensokyo in Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red and no one seems to challenge that boast.
I am always under the impression that Aya is the fastest, Remilia is second, and Youmu is third. Remilia is second, because Youmu's dialogue
against Remilia seems to imply that Remilia is faster than Youmu.
Youmu's victory vs dialogue against Remilia:
Against agile movers you should shut your eyes, Lady Yuyuko said.
Is it because you can't see afterimages when your eyes are shut?
@[insert]-tirade:
Sakuya's time stop has a limit, she doesn't seem to be able to use it forever. Kaguya seems to be better at time manipulation.
@haoreos2:
Isn't Youmu's ability swordsmanship?
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Well, Marisa is more reasonable than the likes of Remilia, Reimu, and Sakuya.
True enough. That's how you gotta be on the mean streets of Gensokyo, yo.
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@Starx: According to the wiki, it's both swordsmanship and concentration
@Tengukami: so Marisa is the streetwise snarker who don't follow no stinkin' rules to Reimu's straight-laced, by-the-books slacker, and together they solve crime? Two tickets, please!
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@Tengukami: so Marisa is the streetwise snarker who don't follow no stinkin' rules to Reimu's straight-laced, by-the-books slacker, and together they solve crime? Two tickets, please!
Dude, Fightest and I plotted out a cop buddy movie starring Ran and Chen that had a very similar plot: Chen is a straight-laced, by-the-books, just-wants-to-do-what's-right officer of the law, while Ran is the jaded, cynical loose canon. Yukari is of course the weary captain who talks about how the lieutenant (never named) is "going to have my ass for this" and sighs a lot, who partners them up in order to teach them both a lesson. Together, their personalities clash, sometimes even coming to blows, but in the end they find their different styles compliment each other, and we all learn a little something about friendship ... and justice.
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Dude, Fightest and I plotted out a cop buddy movie starring Ran and Chen that had a very similar plot: Chen is a straight-laced, by-the-books, just-wants-to-do-what's-right officer of the law, while Ran is the jaded, cynical loose canon. Yukari is of course the weary captain who talks about how the lieutenant (never named) is "going to have my ass for this" and sighs a lot, who partners them up in order to teach them both a lesson. Together, their personalities clash, sometimes even coming to blows, but in the end they find their different styles compliment each other, and we all learn a little something about friendship ... and justice.
I'm throwing money at the screen but nothing is happening
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@haoreos2:
I just went to the wiki to check and yeah, it does say concentration. I wonder where that came from, I don't think it is in any of her profiles.
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Dude, Fightest and I plotted out a cop buddy movie starring Ran and Chen that had a very similar plot: Chen is a straight-laced, by-the-books, just-wants-to-do-what's-right officer of the law, while Ran is the jaded, cynical loose canon. Yukari is of course the weary captain who talks about how the lieutenant (never named) is "going to have my ass for this" and sighs a lot, who partners them up in order to teach them both a lesson. Together, their personalities clash, sometimes even coming to blows, but in the end they find their different styles compliment each other, and we all learn a little something about friendship ... and justice.
isn't that every cop movie ever but with touhous
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isn't that every cop movie ever but with touhous
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EDIT: Oh! Forgot to mention: in our version, Ran is always drinking something from a styrofoam cup. Whenever it's time to go somewhere - driving to the scene of a crime, leaving the precinct office, and so on - Ran always throws the cup out the window first. If there is no window, she throws it anyway.
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This topic seems to have been derailed at some point.
Rumia's power is Manipulation of Darkness and Nue's is the ability to cause things to be mis- and un- identified. However, Rumia's second STB card has her turning invisible, her location unidentified, while Nue throws out clouds of darkness to simply make bullets hard to see.
I'm convinced Nue is EX-Rumia.
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A fight that Reimu was reluctant to have, since they were the invaders, and Yukari wasn't even participating in. Also, shattering the moon apparently had zero affect on the Lunarians, since they didn't mention squat or do anything about it.
As for things some haven't noticed until now: powers are not absolute, nor can they always be fully controlled.
Canonically: Rumia has power incontinence, Cirno can't put out fires or lazers (at least, not as easily as normal Danmaku), Yuyuko can't kill people who wouldn't die from normal means, splashing Chen with water dispells her Shikigami power boost, Yukari can't gap to the moon whenever she wants, Keine can't hide history from Yukarivision, and so on.
Inferred or implied by canon: Youmu's concentration only applies to fighting, Komachi's distance compression is fairly limited (inferred from her SWR dialogue), Remilia's fate changing appears to require her to rename the recipient, Reisen can't invoke Lunacy as well as looking at the moon, and so forth.
Another one: many powers are too generic or vague to be discussed effectively.
Powers that are listed, but aren't used in any actual games or artbooks or the like (having not read all the books, I may be mistaken with some of these): Tewi's luck manipulation, Keine's full-moon history changing, Eirin's intelligence (I kid), Remilia's fate manipulation (mentioned to be rumoured to have been used in one article, suggesting it is tied to name fortunes), Ran's and Chen's black magic, etc.
Powers that are used, but little meaningful information about them is available: what kind of magic magicians can use (can Marisa only use lasers and stars and such, or can she do all kinds of wizardy things such as conjuration or alchemy?), Flandre's destruction (she can destroy a meteor, but what would happen if she tried on Mokou or Kaguya? Can she destroy Suika while she is dispersed, or a ghost?), Koishi's subconcious manipulation et al.
A few things for the curious.
Remilia's fate manipulation... yea, for that one, even the Scarlet sisters themselves give conflicting statements of how it works (In Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red, Flandre says with certainty that it's something Remilia can't consciously control. Remilia says otherwise). The idea that she changes one's fate by changing your name is Akyu's speculation regarding Sakuya (it's true that Remilia did change Sakuya's name, though).
If Flandre destroyed Mokou or Kaguya, they'd probably just rebuild themselves. However, it's true that her power isn't very well defined when trying to determine her ability to destroy non physical things.
Marisa's magic is primarily destructive, according to Perfect Memento in Strict Sense (though she is researching into things like "slaves" (IE, familiars, etc) and immortality).
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Aren't Chen and Ran using their black magic when they fight you? Chen's Wizard Sign "Pheonix Spread Wings" has "wizard" right there in the name.
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Aren't Chen and Ran using their black magic when they fight you? Chen's Wizard Sign "Pheonix Spread Wings" has "wizard" right there in the name.
Chen has a card called Oni Sign "Blue Oni Red Oni". Does that mean she is Suika's sister? :P
I can't say whether or not they are using it, but I don't really see any mechanics in any of their fights that are markedly different from regular ones (eg, Sakuya using her ability to stop time), or bullets that are seperate from standard danmaku (eg, Cirno's ice bullets or the animal danmaku).
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Chen has a card called Oni Sign "Blue Oni Red Oni". Does that mean she is Suika's sister? :P
Well there you go, it must be black magic! :D
That's a good point actually. The only unique aspects of their battles I can think of is that they somersault all over the place, but somehow that doesn't suggest sorcery to me. Ran also had those weird rectangles in StB which, as far as I am aware, were never seen before and have not been seen again, but I'm not sure what to think of them.
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Well there you go, it must be black magic! :D
That's a good point actually. The only unique aspects of their battles I can think of is that they somersault all over the place, but somehow that doesn't suggest sorcery to me. Ran also had those weird rectangles in StB which, as far as I am aware, were never seen before and have not been seen again, but I'm not sure what to think of them.
I'm going to guess that by "weird rectangles", you mean the ones that are heavily used in this spell card (http://en.touhouwiki.net/images/8/8f/Th095SC56.jpg), for instance.
Those "rectangles" are actually Ran's "aura", like Yukari's snowflake, Mokou's phoenix, and so on. Look closely at Ran during pretty much any confrontation with her, and you'll notice it surrounding her, albeit much smaller than it is in the spell card I just mentioned.
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Mamizou's second-to-last spell card is "Mamizou Danmaku in Ten Transformations.This is a reference to her "ten transformations," obviously, but I just made the connection that she creates ten copies of herself during the spell card. :o
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Suwako is the only boss to get back to back survival cards.
Yukari and Mokou have double survivals for spells 9 and 11, Koishi has 2 at 5 and 9, and Suwako has hers as spells 8 and 9.
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It's probably really obvious, but the "drive" in Desire Drive may refer to a motivational drive. I didn't think about that until now, I always just thought "drive" was just a cool word to throw into the song's name.
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It's probably really obvious, but the "drive" in Desire Drive may refer to a motivational drive. I didn't think about that until now, I always just thought "drive" was just a cool word to throw into the song's name.
Who says he didnt think it was both :derp:
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It seems Marisa's theme in PoFV is based on the title theme of SoEW.
Also Extra Love is based on Eastern Wind, and The Tank Girl's Dream is based on She's in a Temper.
And then Mai and Yuki's theme is based on Meira's theme (heavily, I might add).
PC-98 is full of this business.
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and The Tank Girl's Dream is based on She's in a Temper.
I saw the relation on all the songs except for this pair. I don't hear any resemblance between the two, unless I'm missing something. :wat: Only song that The Tank Girl's Dream is based from that I know of is Extra Love, which is pretty much blatantly obvious.
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Well it's hard to describe music with words (for me at least), but here goes.
She's in a temper starts off with that repetitive thing with 5 notes in it. Tank Girl kinda does the same thing but gets rid of the space between the third and fourth notes and just makes it faster.
Then She's in a Temper does a second thing after a bit, which is like 5 notes, then 3 which kinda build back up, then the same 5 again. If you slowed them down, but kept the three in the middle the same, I think it would sound like the main melody of Tank Girl (the part that's also in Extra Love).
Only a very slight similarity, but I'm assuming it's not a coincidence, seeing as they're themes for the same character anyway, and the stage themes were similar too.
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The first part of SoEW's title theme (before the other instruments come in) can be combined with Mystic Oriental Love Consultation.
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The "Mami" in Mamizou can mean "Deceiving Spirit". Rearrange the letters in that to get the name of one.
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You can still hit Mamizou's clones for spirits in her survival pattern. You can bomb them, too, to get massive trance-ness...
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So, we all know that Butterflies are symbols of Death in Japanese Culture, right? The thing is, I've always wondered why until I was walking past the local graveyard today.
Flowers in bloom, if I remember correctly, indicated that there is a recently dead soul possessing it, right? Now what do flowers attract? That's right. Butterflies.
However, this had me thinking...Yuuka, she's the Youkai of Flowers and yet she can create dimensions, obviously even souls need some kind of space in the flowers.
So, what does this all mean? For one, Yuuka certainly deserves her title of "Sleeping Terror", but then another thing, could it be that Yuuka's a major player in the cycle of reincarnation in Gensokyo?
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So, we all know that Butterflies are symbols of Death in Japanese Culture, right? The thing is, I've always wondered why until I was walking past the local graveyard today.
Flowers in bloom, if I remember correctly, indicated that there is a recently dead soul possessing it, right? Now what do flowers attract? That's right. Butterflies.
You know, there is also the thing about the caterpillar wrapping itself in a cocoon, "dieing" and "being reborn" as a butterfly. :derp:
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Not all of the ones mentioned are really gone unnoticed for me until now. Just that I never posted them here until now...
Surprised that Alice's occasional spinning in Touhou 7 didn't get caught on as a meme. I always found it random and weird for her to spin like that.
Some people who know a lot about Yukkuris actually know very little about Touhou, and some even think that Touhou fans are weird.
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Surprised that there's Alice's occasional spinning in Touhou 7 didn't get caught on as a meme. I always found it random and weird for her to spin like that.
I noticed that too. I like to think that ZUN accidentally left in a line of code for boss-spinning from Chen when he made the Alice boss battle, then didn't remove it either because he was too drunk to notice it, or drunk enough to leave it in "for the lulz." :V
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Actually, I am personally amazed that Patchy's freakish acrobatic trick she does whenever she moves hasn't become a meme. I mean, every time I see it I wonder why the heck she does it.
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I just noticed a progressive similarity between Utsoho's stage theme and Shou's. Both are in an unusual time signature (Utsuho's is in 10/8 then switches to 3/4, Shou's is in 11/4 (Or 11/8 whatever they are identical in rhythm just different in speed)) and both have similar melodies and chords. Though the chords thing could be contributed to the fact that ZUN only knows like 3 chords. UFO stage 5 theme is Rural Makai City Esoteria, and Utsoho's stage takes place deep in the "Streets of Former Hell."
I could just be crazy though to see these similarities.
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Actually, I am personally amazed that Patchy's freakish acrobatic trick she does whenever she moves hasn't become a meme. I mean, every time I see it I wonder why the heck she does it.
Hell, I looked at actual game images, zoomed up close, and I STILL can't figure out what she's doing. THIS...is her true power. Patchy for Phantasm Boss
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Hell, I looked at actual game images, zoomed up close, and I STILL can't figure out what she's doing. THIS...is her true power. Patchy for Phantasm Boss
I think she's leaning backwards or something. :derp:
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I think she's leaning backwards or something. :derp:
In her StB sprite, it's far more obvious, but in the EoSD version, she looks like she's doing something that must be REALLY bad for her back. :V
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Kinda looks like she's turning to her left side and bending down to me. It's hard to tell.
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I always figured it was the same as her dash in the fighting games.
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Looks something like her backdash yeah. She leans forward and jumps back.
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I think it looks like she turns to her right and bends backward, while kicking one of her feet into the air. You'd expect the book to be more visable if she turned to her left.
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I still think she's leaning forward and right, by her feat angles. But then this is ZUN so, etc.
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Actually, yeah. Looking at the colored strips on her hat and the book, it does look like she is turning to her right and bending down backwards.
ouch!
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Btw, this is the sprite I was talking about.
(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/79/dashfront003.png)
Actually, when the EoSD sprite makes a similar pose, she moves in the opposite direction, but I still it's pretty plausible that she's just looking back, instead of arching her whole body. But like someone else said, it's ZUN, so who knows.
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It looks like she's floating backwards in a lying-down position, like when you read a book in bed.
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To me, it seems like Patchy hasn't actually walked in a long time, cause those poses aren't based on any kind of ground-based movement.
I kind of picture her always floating about and when she in the middle of her experiments, she would look back at a shelf and fly towards it to get a missing ingredient without bothering to turn around since it seems to be a wasted movement.
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Maybe there are others, but at the moment I can only think of one character who has neither a head/hair accessory or a handheld accessory, and that's Parsee. Could this be the cause of her jealousy?
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It looks like she's floating backwards in a lying-down position, like when you read a book in bed.
It kind of does look like that, now that I think of it.
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Maybe there are others, but at the moment I can only think of one character who has neither a head/hair accessory or a handheld accessory, and that's Parsee. Could this be the cause of her jealousy?
Kaguya would like a word with you... :V
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She has floating accessories. They kinda count, right?
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She has floating accessories. They kinda count, right?
except she doesn't wear them, they're just there.
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She has floating accessories. They kinda count, right?
I'm just being nitpicky, cuz he said "handheld". :3 But in a pure sense, it really does seem that Parsee is the only one without an accessory of any type.
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I just thought of Yumemi. I don't think she has anything either. Then maybe Parsee's the only Windows character. :V
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I'm just being nitpicky, cuz he said "handheld". :3 But in a pure sense, it really does seem that Parsee is the only one without an accessory of any type.
Do scarves count?
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Mima is associated with the sun and moon. Marisa, her pupil, was too at first, however she later becomes associated with stars.
Where have I seen this pattern before? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardcaptor_Sakura)
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Mima is associated with the sun and moon. Marisa, her pupil, was too at first, however she later becomes associated with stars.
Where have I seen this pattern before? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardcaptor_Sakura)
Oh my gog.
I now love Marisa even more. :getdown:
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Do scarves count?
Now we must begin to question what constitutes Parsee's outfit and what counts as an accessory.... :colonveeplusalpha:
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Now we must begin to question what constitutes Parsee's outfit and what counts as an accessory.... :colonveeplusalpha:
Sara actually has no accessories. AT ALL. Unless scarves count.
But now the surprise question:
Do umbrellas count?
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But if you don't count scarves, then you cannot count hats.
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Here's the list of characters with nothing on their heads:
Yuuka
Sara
Yumemi
Kogasa
Parsee
Kaguya
Byakuren (unless you think gradient hair counts)
Nue
Rinnosuke
YuugenMagan
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I was going to snark with "a.k.a. all the crap characters" but Kaguya's my second favorite. And Yumemi is fine in my book, because PoDD is my favorite of the PC-98 series.
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Well, Yuuka has a sleeping cap in her sleepy moe~ outfit.
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Do parasols count?
Fixed that for you.
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Fixed that for you.
Kogasa =/= Yuuka or Yukari
Thus, umbrella is correct.
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How about brollies, rainshades, sunshades, gamps and bumbershoots? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella)
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How about brollies, rainshades, sunshades, gamps and bumbershoots? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella)
No.
Karakasa = Umbrella
Karakasa =/= Any of those you listed.
Wikipedia = Untrustable
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~list of hatless touhous~
So does that mean Undefined Fantastic Object is an abomination to the series for introducing more than one hatless touhou? :derp:
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C-c-c-c-c-combo-breaker!!!
I was watching one of my IN 1cc replays, and after Kaguya was defeated and the final results came up, I exited to the main menu before the typical fade-to-white at the end of the game could complete. When I was at the menu, the fade CONTINUED until it was completed and I couldn't see anything on the screen for a moment. Definitely a strange moment there. :derp:
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Wait a minute.
Sanae is the descendant of Suwako, who has the ability to create earth.
Sanae is a wind priestess. Kanako is the goddess of wind and rain.
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Yuugi and Shou's spellcard background are the same, oh wait that's old news right?
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People love to make fun of Utsuho for being dumb, a "bird brain." But, crows and ravens are actually considered one of the world's smartest animals. Hmm...
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She also apparently understands nuclear physics. I'm not sure where the whole "Okuu is dumb" thing started.
Also, and this doesn't really mean anything, but I really thought Seiga was a ghost when I first fought her. She's got a pale color scheme, her subtitle is "Wicked Hermit Passing through Walls," she's teamed up with a zombie in a cemetery, and her posture makes it all too clear that she's floating around. Everyone flies, but most character portraits depict them in a standing position.
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It probably has something to do with Utsuho's dialogues in the games.
Hisoutensoku Dialogue:
Sanae: That's as far as you go!
Utsuho: Wait, what were we doing again?
Sanae: Er... You were listening to my orders and helping me with my investigation of this reactor.
Utsuho: Ah, is that right??
Sanae: Yes, that's right. Please proceed as planned.
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Nah, Okuu was portrayed as pretty block-headed shortly after SA's release. Soku's dialogue just uh built upon that to an obvious extent.
The fact that she was so easily manipulated by Kanako, said the only reason she wanted more power was "to get more power", she couldn't remember Kanako whatsoever, Orin calls her a birdbrain and guesses that Satori couldn't tell of Utsuho's situation because she already forgot it, Suika calls her an idiot, and her theme notes indirectly describe her as a fool... is probably why.
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Nah, Okuu was portrayed as pretty block-headed shortly after SA's release. Soku's dialogue just uh built upon that to an obvious extent.
The fact that she was so easily manipulated by Kanako, said the only reason she wanted more power was "to get more power", she couldn't remember Kanako whatsoever, Orin calls her a birdbrain and guesses that Satori couldn't tell of Utsuho's situation because she already forgot it, Suika calls her an idiot, and her theme notes indirectly describe her as a fool... is probably why.
Fortunately, ZUN's next book will cover this. xD
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Something small, and not something I noticed "just now" but for the longest time I thought Meiling was her last name because she is the only character without "no" in their name to use eastern name order. I did not for a second question her being named "Hong" for a good 2 years.
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"Fall of Fall" in Fall of Fall ~ Autumnal Waterfall is a pun
I am such an idiot for missing this
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Whether or not Utsuho is bright, she at least has a good amount of knowledge in nuclear physics; otherwise, the nuclear plant (and even Gensokyo) probably wouldn't last long...
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Whether or not Utsuho is bright, she at least has a good amount of knowledge in nuclear physics; otherwise, the nuclear plant (and even Gensokyo) probably wouldn't last long...
It's pretty commonly accepted that Okuu is something of an idiot savant.
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Fair enough, but she has to has knowledge in nuclear physics.
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That phrase means exactly that :p
Idiot savant means that they are a complete moron in everything but one particular subject at which they excel.
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Look what a nice glitch i've encountered in Ten Desires spell practice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIaNANEIQ8g
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Fandom seems to be forgetting that Momiji is a wolf and not a dog. In fact, I actually forgot that Momiji is a wolf! Same thing applies for Nue being treated as an alien and not a nue... And let's not forget about Meiling being treated as a dragon...
Wikipedia = Untrustable
Please don't treat as if everything there cannot be trusted. It's not like the admins and mods there don't proofread and go through the information.
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When you choose Mima's alternate color scheme in PoDD, her tail dissapears.
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Youmu's slash in Ten Desires has a different length depending on power level. I knew the charge time was different, but I didn't realize the slash distance was less until clearing TD extra with her.
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I was thinking about something on the walk home from college, As the title says, it was about Mima.
Now it recently came to my attention that "mima" is actually a family-based term. Doing some research I found out that "mima" is used refer to a foster mother.
And now we come to Mima herself. Given the obvious, we would all come to the conclusion that she's sort of a mother/teacher figure to Marisa.
But with that relationship, it could be possible that Mima isn't her real name at all.
I know Mima (魅魔) can mean "charming demon" or something of the sort, but it's pretty coincidental that she's represented as something of a mother to Marisa without any strong hint as to whether or not they are related.
Also, she's the only character who has been playable without a "known" last name. Makes sense (to me) that "Mima" would be an endearing title rather than an actual name.
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That....That actually makes inordinate amounts of sense.
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Welcome to the literary world of devices, this one being the "double entendre"; giving a character a name which can have more than one meaning.
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I've seen "mima" used as a term for grandmother as well. I think it's just a coincidence, though. 'Specially since before she got Yukari'd, Mima preferred hanging around Reimu's place.
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Holy crap, that makes sense indeed. :o
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None of the HRtP characters have last names, though I do wonder what made him choose to keep Mima rather than make a new character for SoEW, and then carry her through the rest of the PC-98 era. I don't think she's Marisa's mother though. Actually, when Marisa first appeared, I don't think she was even supposed to be human. Then again, maybe Mima just made her with magic. It would fit with her boss title.
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I don't think she's Marisa's mother though.
She's not. She's a mother "figure".
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@Zil:
I don't know, the only playable characters in non decimal Touhou games have been human. So, I just assume Marisa is a human.
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She's not. She's a mother "figure".
Oh right. :V Yeah, I think that does make sense. They certainly knew each and must have some kind of background.
@Zil:
I don't know, the only playable characters in non decimal Touhou games have been human. So, I just assume Marisa is a human.
She's definitely human now, but in the early games she was called "A Being of Magic and Scarlet Dreams" or something along those lines, so ZUN may have changed his mind or something. Also Mima and Yuuka were playable in non-decimal games and they weren't human, and that's leaving out the phantasmagoria games, which are full of nonhumans of course.
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Oh my
God Kanako, I just thought of something else!
We all know how Maribel dreams of a world where magic and monsters exist called Gensokyo, correct? Maybe the truth is that all of Genoskyo is nothing more than a dream.
Think of it. In this day and age you don't believe in monsters and magic right? Therefore not believing in them means they don't exist. Such beliefs are "dead". However, the one place where they can exist is within someone's own fantasy. Their dreams.
And Reimu herself has those as her signs. Fantasy Sign and Dream Sign. The boundary she guards is probably the boundary that separates the real world from the dream world. Dreams cannot interact with the real world, in which case they are just nothing but fantasies; things that don't exist. It could be that Gensokyo itself is simply a metaphoric world of fantasies that still exist within our imaginations. Never dying and everlasting. As for Yukari seemingly passing through the barrier between Gensokyo and the outside world, maybe that too is a metaphor. For what? ...I have no idea. Fantasies becoming reality by perseverance? I don't know. Maybe it's magic. :V
Of course, one might also bring up Sanae's entrance into this "world of dreams". I could toss in a ton of random, nonsensical theories that won't make sense. But...they won't make sense. Perhaps Sanae is just another entity in this dream world. Perhaps she's not really from the real world but an embodiment of the mind that still clings to fantasy (which would explain the goddesses that accompany here), so she truly fits in Gensokyo. I'd say this applies to anything/anyone else that isn't native to Gensokyo.
Take it or leave it, but I feel that it makes sense to an extent (key phrase).
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What? I don't buy this.
We know the Scarlet Devil Mansion crew came in from the real world and we also know the Mountain of Faith crew came in the real world.
We also know things that are forgotten or lost appear in Gensokyo and those have nothing to do with belief. Things like the communications
tower, the Ipod, the tv, the computer, etc. are there not because of the lack of belief, but because it is lost or forgotten.
Maribel also mentions how she is trying to find a way to Gensokyo.
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What? I don't buy this.
We know the Scarlet Devil Mansion crew came in from the real world and we also know the Mountain of Faith crew came in the real world.
We also know things that are forgotten or lost appear in Gensokyo and those have nothing to do with belief. Things like the communications
tower, the Ipod, the tv, the computer, etc. are there not because of the lack of belief, but because it is lost or forgotten.
Maribel also mentions how she is trying to find a way to Gensokyo.
Bah, I guess it doesn't make any sense....
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Doesn't "gensou" mean "illusion"? I don't see why it can't be a dream world that real people and objects can nonetheless enter by being forgotten or whatever.
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Though this would have been more fitting for the now closed crack theory thread V:
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Have anyone of you noticed that all extra mid-bosses have 3 nonspells except Chen?
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She has one nonspell and two spell cards. Always three patterns.
Patchouli, Keine, Sanae, Kogasa, and Nue: 3 spells.
Chen and Kanako: one nonspell, two spells.
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Kanako has 3 spells and 1 nonspell. None of them have 3 nonspells though. ::)
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We also know things that are forgotten or lost appear in Gensokyo and those have nothing to do with belief.
Then how come Gensokyo isn't also full of odd socks? :V
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Chen and Kanako: one nonspell, two spells.
There's also Ran.
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But Ran is pretty much Chen except an easier second pattern.
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She's still an indi-bloody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Q5JFHrGNk)-vidual, though :V
Should we count the two PC-98 EX midbosses? (Card King and Not-Nue)
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Then how come Gensokyo isn't also full of odd socks? :V
I don't think it works like that. Things that go to Gensokyo are more things that have faded from the public consciousness than things that are lost.
CoLA had that part where Rinnosuke muses about an original Game Boy for example.
People on the other hand, I dunno. Would probably result in an incident however! :D
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@Zil:
I don't know, the only playable characters in non decimal Touhou games have been human. So, I just assume Marisa is a human.
Remilia, Youmu, Yuyuko. :C
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Remilia, Youmu, Yuyuko. :C
Vampire, Half-Ghost, Full Ghost. but yeah, they were playables too, so not ALL the characters were human.
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Trance "revives" shrinked spirits in Ten Desires. I mean, if you use trance when there are divine spirits floating on screen and dont collect them (wich also means not playing as Reimu) then after trance ends all spirits are fullsize again, no matter how close to vanish they were before trance. That helps a lot when it comes to refilling your trance gauge at some places.
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That actually makes Reimu's spirit absorbing seem like a weakness. As someone else you can leave all of the spirits and collect them after the trance to recharge more quickly. :wat:
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That actually makes Reimu's spirit absorbing seem like a weakness. As someone else you can leave all of the spirits and collect them after the trance to recharge more quickly. :wat:
Yeah. That's why (along with more power) i prefer TD Marisa more than Reimu.
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Trance "revives" shrinked spirits in Ten Desires. I mean, if you use trance when there are divine spirits floating on screen and dont collect them (wich also means not playing as Reimu) then after trance ends all spirits are fullsize again, no matter how close to vanish they were before trance. That helps a lot when it comes to refilling your trance gauge at some places.
It's a really awesome tactic in, say, Stage 2 where you can get like 4 (x2 = 8) bomb spirits at once. Really.
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PoFV, Yuuka's story, Stage 6, against Reimu.
"It went back to normal when I defeated you before!"
Canon reference to a PC-98 game (Lotus Land Story).
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It's a really awesome tactic in, say, Stage 2 where you can get like 4 (x2 = 8) bomb spirits at once. Really.
Yeah. See my run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=Xhb4QAiB760#t=193s) where i tranced stage 2 three times, gathering all life pieces at double rate.
P.S.: Ending fairies of Stage 2 give you 6 (x2=12) bomb pieces and 2 life. But the most ridiculous bomb galore happens at the end of stage 5.
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And that's why I like using Sanae so much in TD. Constant flow of spirits.
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Vampire, Half-Ghost, Full Ghost. but yeah, they were playables too, so not ALL the characters were human.
Heh, I missed that. I guess Remilia is playable even though she must be in a team. I guess Phantasmagoria games are the exception.
But canonically speaking, Phantasmagoria games are not incidents. The norm for Touhou playable characters is that they must be
human, which is why Reimu, Marisa, Sanae, Sakuya, and Youmu are playable.
As for Mystic Square, I consider that an anomaly.
They say stuff like this in the spell card rules themselves:
That youkai can easily cause disasters.
That humans can easily resolve disasters.
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Well generally speaking,
- a youkai can now attack humans, notably the Hakurei shrine maiden, without ill consequence
- unlike the previous set of rules, youkai can now cause incidents without ill consequence
- a human probably isn't going to have the capability to start an incident, but the equal chance is given by allowing humans to stand up to youkai
Almost miraculously, these are all completely different scenarios that are solved with one concept.
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Flandre destroys things by going 'kyuu'
9 in japanese is 'kyuu'
Cirno is a 9
???
Strongest!
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Anyone ever notice the drumroll in MoF right before the end of a boss's spellcard?
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The noise the game makes when you shoot the boss gets louder when she's low on health. I'm pretty sure that's what you're thinking of, and it happens in most of the newer games. (MoF and onward)
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It happens in every game, starting I believe in EoSD.
Obviously FR8709 doesn't play with the sound on.
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PoFV bullets reflected maintain their original velocities.
So THAT'S why I've had so many random turbo bullet from nowhere slam directly into my hitbox while playing with Aya...my level 2 is my own worst enemy.
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ZUN stated in an interview in Silent Sinner in Blue that most of the viewpoints were from the human characters' perspectives, because youkai way of thinking is wierd compared to humans. I forget if he stated this was the case for the games as well, but it would explain why all the games besides the phantasmagorias and fighitng games (where it would be unavoidable) have you playing human characters instead of youkai.
Imperishable Night is an exception, but mainly because it's about a human teamed up with a youkai. So even tho youkai characters are playabe there, they're teamed up with human characters.
(Youmu's half-human, which is close enough, as shown by how she represents the human half of the ghost team. ...although solo Youmu can only get up to half human bar filled :P)
Rinnosuke being half-human is probably close enough, too, which I suppose leaves Oriental Sacred Place (including when it was under a different name) as the only Touhou work that takes place primarily from a youkai viewpoint. Although fairies probably view things differently than most youkai.
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Rinnosuke being half-human is probably close enough, too, which I suppose leaves Oriental Sacred Place (including when it was under a different name) as the only Touhou work that takes place primarily from a youkai viewpoint. Although fairies probably view things differently than most youkai.
there was also BAiJR, WaHH and the CiLR stories (not counting the "primarily from a youkai viewpoint" bit). *waits warmly for the next BAiJR, forgot the name but it's the content that matters, right? :D*
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Yeah, the new book will most likely talk about 10, 11, 12, 13, and the fighting games in between them. We may even know if the unnamed
giant catfish is real? or not.
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I've noticed in HRtP that sometimes Reimu's pallet would alter and turn green (I think it was either dying or bombing on boss stages). Cut forward to PoDD, and what's Reimu's alternate pallet? Green.
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I've noticed in HRtP that sometimes Reimu's pallet would alter and turn green (I think it was either dying or bombing on boss stages). Cut forward to PoDD, and what's Reimu's alternate pallet? Green.
And flashforward to everyone's favourite 2P...?
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I've noticed in HRtP that sometimes Reimu's pallet would alter and turn green (I think it was either dying or bombing on boss stages). Cut forward to PoDD, and what's Reimu's alternate pallet? Green.
I believe that on certain bosses, her pallet alters. Bombing or dying doesn't matter, it starts that way. Not really sure what the cause could be though / if it was on purpose or not. (pretty sure it wasn't)
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Yeah, her bow changes to whatever the theme colour of the stage is. Green for Mima, white for Kikuri, yellow for Elis, blue for Sariel. Though not all the animation frames are changed, you can see the bow flash red when she moves. :V
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I probably noticed it against Mima then because of crazed bombing.
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Let's see. She's normal when fighting Shingyoku and YuuganMagan, yellow when fighting Elis, and has multiple with Sariel. The beginning... area(?) makes her purple, then the fire area turns her an orange color, then the next is back to purple. Her final phase returns Reimu back to normal, red. Mima turns her green, Kikuri also turns her green (looks like a duller green than Mima's), and Konngara is default red.
Besides her bow changing, her amulets change too, you know.
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Yeah, I saw my amulets change too.
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Mystia's theme in PoFV has whistling in it.
Also Aya has the best survivability of all the AI characters, lasting 90 seconds longer than Shikieiki, lunatic, first round.
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I guess speed translates into survival for the AI, though I wonder if Cirno may have an added advantage. Out of curiosity, which character did you have fighting them?
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Spellcard/nonspell capture sound in Ten Desires is the same as bomb extend one :wat: Remember that confused me in my first runs.
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I guess speed translates into survival for the AI, though I wonder if Cirno may have an added advantage. Out of curiosity, which character did you have fighting them?
I believe this is exactly why Medicine screws over the AI so much. The algorithms for dodging must not include to slow down caused by her clouds.
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Satori's third eye allows her to communicate with animals.
The third eye is placed where her heart would be.
Hmm...heart...and talking to animals....doesn't that sound familiar?
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Hmm...heart...and talking to animals....doesn't that sound familiar?
Eliza Thornberry!
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I guess speed translates into survival for the AI, though I wonder if Cirno may have an added advantage. Out of curiosity, which character did you have fighting them?
Reimu, in story mode. I know the first round survivability times because TAS.
Why Cirno?
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Eliza Thornberry!
He's actually referring to Ma-Ti's Heart power and his pet monkey Suchi from Captain Planet.
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Reimu, in story mode. I know the first round survivability times because TAS.
Why Cirno?
I was thinking that the way she freezes all of the bullets would help her survive, along with her above average speed and circular purple zone. To measure them effectively though you'd probably want to set the Hard AI against itself in match mode. Probably Reisen or some other wimp vs. the character whose survivability you're measuring. Hard because Lunatic would never end, and wimpy character because Reimu traps the AI and randomly kills it faster than she should. I don't doubt that Aya lasts longest though. She's even got that bullet slowdown ability helping her out.
He's actually referring to Ma-Ti's Heart power and his pet monkey Suchi from Captain Planet.
I know. I was just being ridiculous. :D
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A rather useless feature in th10 lets you choose the number of lives you start with in practice mode. Press a number button while selecting a stage.
The manual in th12 says that the large UFOs explode and the small UFOs leave the screen when the dialogue starts because they can 'read the atmosphere'.
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I noticed while watching an MoF Extra run that you can change the position of the frostthrowers so that all 4 of them hit the boss at the same time. How do you do it? ???
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By being clever enough?
When Marisa gains a power, a option appears on the rightmost side where it should be when unfocused.
First option just appears in front, second a bit to the right, third a bit more to the right, and so on.
But if it appears while using focus, the newly appeared option will be stuck to the spot like the other options.
So, for example, Marisa can lock two options on the center, and then eat power-ups somewhere on the left side so the other two options end up in the center.
Having said this, I never tried.
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Miko's final boss add-on are giant butterfly wings.
Bitches Taoists love butterflies.
Somehow I never drew the connection until yesterday. :fail:
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Parsee was once married. (A bridge princess is created when a wife, pining for her husband becomes jealous due to his unfaithfulness and wishes for revenge.)
The Hakurei Orb is alive.
For SinGyoku is by far the worst gatekeeper in Gensoyoko. Not only does he try to keep Reimu in, he pretty much ignores his duties and ditches the shrine entirely after she beats him. And he crossdresses.
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The Hakurei Orb is alive.
I'm actually surprised no one has thought of exploiting the fact that the yin yang orb can turn into a cat.
I'm already working on 4komas. >.>
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By being clever enough?
When Marisa gains a power, a option appears on the rightmost side where it should be when unfocused.
First option just appears in front, second a bit to the right, third a bit more to the right, and so on.
But if it appears while using focus, the newly appeared option will be stuck to the spot like the other options.
So, for example, Marisa can lock two options on the center, and then eat power-ups somewhere on the left side so the other two options end up in the center.
Having said this, I never tried.
Just tried it, and it works.
Thanks for the help. :)
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- Myouren has met Prince Shotoku, according to his legend (Myouren's), and helped Prince Shotoku win the battle against the Mononobe clan, which opposed buddhism
- Myouren's unknown sister, once again according to his legend, went after a purple cloud (did it have a hitbox?) to search for him
- Myouren would've been the UFO's final boss, then ZUN realized that it was uncommon for the series to have male characters in games (bosses/playables), then Prince Shotoku gets genderbent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOPNAB4C_uQ) in TD
- the probable inspiration for Yuyuko, Saigyou Hoshi, was born around 1050 AD, it's said that he lived in an age where buddhism was in decline; this is long after Prince Shotoku died, and it *may* imply that Yuyuko actually never met Miko in person, not that she did imply in the first place (when she said "a troublesome person is returning" or something like that in TD's first stage).
- Kaguya consumed the Hourai Elixir, then is found out and sent to execution, revives through the executions continuously, gets banned to Earth (without Eirin), protagonizes the legend of the bamboo cutter, is almost sent back to the moon but Eirin (who felt guilty for having made the elixir, not expecting Kaguya to use it on herself and not having suffered any punishment like Kaguya had) betrays the other emissaries and hides with Kaguya at the bamboo forest. This all happens around 1300 years ago (which is apparently near the time when Mokou stole the Hourai Elixir from mt. Fuji), which means that Eirin left her trap at the moon (which would be triggered around 1000 years ago or more) before leaving it, and wasn't present at the Lunar Capital at the time.
- Urashima Taro (in the Touhouverse) is said to have visited the Lunar Capital (thinking that it was the Dragons' Sea Palace) over 1500 years ago (I had to look up the year, to look for plotholes, which is partially what this thread is for :D), Eirin was present at that time and gave him the aging medicine that he used after going back to his world.
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- Yumemi and Chiyuri might possibly be from the Seihou world, which would explain their knowledge at such a young age.
- Yuuka can bypass the Hakurei Border.
- The Hakurei barrier is under 500 years old.
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- The Hakurei barrier is under 500 years old.
The Hakurei Barrier is created in 1885. But a barrier of shorts similar to the Hakurei Barrier has been around for 500 or so years.
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- The Hakurei barrier is under 500 years old.
from http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Gensokyo_Timeline
1885 CE (0)
Creation of the Great Hakurei Border.
(also) Sexagenary cycle year. (hello PoFV :D)
also
>> More than 1000 years ago
>> Yuyuko Saigyouji's father passes away beneath the Saigyou Ayakashi a bit over 1000 years ago. (The historical figure Saigyou lived from 1118 to 1190/03/23 (2/16 old calendar), and entered the priesthood in 1140)
I've never seen any proof that said historical figure was actually her father (it may be implied, but was never stated)... but what blows my mind.. (from http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Yuyuko_Saigyouji )
>> It is said that she died over 1000 years ago, so she is a ghost with an abnormally long lifespan (*1).
.. so her father may not be Saigyou Hoshi, who may be just a strong inspiration or influence instead.
also, I heard that Tewi was oldhag
, but haven't thought that she would be so... 17something
>> The White Rabbit of Inaba.
As the White Rabbit of Inaba was even further in the past than the tenson kourin, and this tenson kourin was more than 1,792,470 years before Emperor Jimmu went on his eastern expedition.
finally I forgot to mention previously that, according to Myouren's legend, Prince Shotoku met Bishamonten on the year of the Tiger, at the hour of the Tiger (and why not, have some more tigers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL2W3z-_YiA)), or something like that (because my memory is almost never reliable), prior to fighting the Mononobe clan.
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Does this look familiar to you guys? (http://www.chinatown-online.com/cultureeye/highlights/raising.htm)
Clue: TD Extra
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Does this look familiar to you guys? (http://www.chinatown-online.com/cultureeye/highlights/raising.htm)
No?
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The bullets in Subterranean Sun actually burn up upon entering the sun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0qn_2puEuk).
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- The Hakurei barrier is useless when it comes to keeping out robotic maids.
- Rinnosuke has a gun disguised as an umbrella in his store.
- Marisa actually owns a computer. She bought it from Rinnosuke.
- Marisa has a belief of steel being extremely valuable, and takes any she finds back to her home. (This is due to her overhearing Rinnosuke talking about how he made the Hakkero)
- Reisen is a lightweight when it comes to drinking.
- Yuuka believes science is stupid.
- The Tengu have a yearly newspaper competition.
- Alice and Sakuya HATE EACH OTHER.
- The world of Seihou's canon ties it with Gensoyoko. Lunarians are more powerful than most people of Gensoyoko and more advanced, however, Erich's private army is the most powerful in the solar system. VIVIT and VIVIT-r have to defeat this force at least once during their incidents. This means that VIVIT/VIVIT-r is possibly more powerful that Yorihime or Torihime.
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Vivit never had to deal with the lunarians, only martians iirc (lunarians aren't mentioned in Seihou iirc), it may be possible that the lunarians aren't known to the Seihou characters/civilizations, depending on how early ZUN has thought about their background story. It may be also a conflict between Touhou and Seihou canon. (how did Vivit meet Reimu, if she's from a future where her creator has discovered Saboten energy, which is more powerful and dangerous --initially at least -- than nuclear energy?)
Yuuka mentioned that science without magic was stupid (or something like that) in Kioh Gyoku, in her win quote.
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Vivit never had to deal with the lunarians, only martians iirc (lunarians aren't mentioned in Seihou iirc), it may be possible that the lunarians aren't known to the Seihou characters/civilizations, depending on how early ZUN has thought about their background story. It may be also a conflict between Touhou and Seihou canon. (how did Vivit meet Reimu, if she's from a future where her creator has discovered Saboten energy, which is more powerful and dangerous --initially at least -- than nuclear energy?)
Maribel and Renko don't exist in the Seihou world, but in one that follows ours more closely. Their world, Gensoyoko, and Seihou run parallel to each other. The Seihou world however, has suffered a disaster which wiped out all the plants on earth other than cacti, leading to resource wars and alternative technological developments, as well as planetary colonization. Yumemi is either from the Seihou world or another unmentioned dimension, as a unified theory and her hypervessel are more on par with Seihou tech. The Seihou world has an actual pathway into Gensoyoko through the Silk Road. This would mean that the divergence of the Seihou Earth and Maribel's Earth occurs either at, or after the sealing away of Gensoyoko.
An example of outsiders, Sanae and her shrine would be from Maribel's Earth. Yumemi and Chiyuri would be from the Seihou world. If Sanae had come from the Seihou world, the goddesses would have tried to make a Saboten powerplant, not a fusion one. Chiyuri, on the other hand, has no qualms disposing of a nuclear fusion robot maid or an ICBM.
VIVIT dueled Marisa and Reimu before spellcard rules were in effect, just a bit before EoSD, due to the appearances of costumes. Yuuka has from the end of the last PC-98 game until PoFV to be wandering in the Seihou world, because it was stated by ZUN that in Kioh Gyoku that she'd gotten her prize from the events of Mystic Square.
VIVIT-r was built a year after Kioh Gyoku, after the regular VIVIT model was mass-produced.
And, actually, the highest power generation in Seihou is RedStorm Energy, which is empowered by ghosts of the dead. VIVIT-r uses this. Saboten is technically inferior to it, and nuclear energy is less powerful than Saboten. Note that VIVIT-R is not affected when the ghost inhabiting the primary generator on Mars goes rampant, and after the events of the first game, not much is said about what exactly happened to the original Vivit. (in the second game, however, the regular VIVIT would wonder if its duplicate was the original.) Not only that VIVIT-r apparently has a soul. VIVIT-r might carry the soul of the original Vivit, which could account for her personality and immunity to the RedStorm rampage.
Not only that, the RedStorm plant existed at least 11 years, meaning that Erich had access to a superior version of power generation long before the events of the first Seihou game, and even the Saboten accident.
And Yuuka stated that chemistry without magic is stupid. She also called it boring.
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Maribel and Renko don't exist in the Seihou world, but in one that follows ours more closely. Their world, Gensoyoko, and Seihou run parallel to each other. The Seihou world however, has suffered a disaster which wiped out all the plants on earth other than cacti, leading to resource wars and alternative technological developments, as well as planetary colonization. Yumemi is either from the Seihou world or another unmentioned dimension, as a unified theory and her hypervessel are more on par with Seihou tech.
Quick note/correction: It's stated in Magical Astronomy that humanity has finished the unified theory in Maribel's time (indirectly. More specifically, it's stated that humanity has managed to unify all the forces of energy, which is what the unified theory is). In fact, IIRC, science is so advanced that humanity literally can not research any more and science has "reached its peak" (direct quote) because any further analysis of things would require more energy than the world has.
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Quick note/correction: It's stated in Magical Astronomy that humanity has finished the unified theory in Maribel's time (indirectly. More specifically, it's stated that humanity has managed to unify all the forces of energy, which is what the unified theory is). In fact, IIRC, science is so advanced that humanity literally can not research any more and science has "reached its peak" (direct quote) because any further analysis of things would require more energy than the world has.
They also are able to go on trips on the moon, which I think was implied to be Lunarian civilization...
I thought they were from the same world where Rinnosuke keeps getting his stuff from, like the gameboy.
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So as i mentioned before, you can kill Yoshika on Seiga's nonspells in Ten Desires, and she wont respawn till the end. But don't do it on the last one or THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMkghIM6vZY) will happen :o
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Cirno freezes her spellcards when using them in Hisoutensoku.
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They also are able to go on trips on the moon, which I think was implied to be Lunarian civilization...
I thought they were from the same world where Rinnosuke keeps getting his stuff from, like the gameboy.
Yeah, they can go to the moon, but they cannot see the Lunarians. They only saw the "fake moon", so to speak.
Also, Maribel and Renko's world takes place sometime in the distant future, but I believe it is the same world as Gensokyo.
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From what I remember of the theory, Mary/Renko world is parallel and future to our own, as is Seihou. Our own is the one that's supposedly connected to Gensokyo as the outside. There's also a parallel scientific Gensokyo, which Chiyuri/Yumemi are from. But the only part of that I'm absolutely sure of is the part about the outside.
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ZUN declared that PC-98 isn't canon. ...that said, Yumemi and Chiyuri were probably the proto-type or precursor idea for Maribel's world and some of its concepts. Chiyuri's title is sailor who travels through time, implying that Yumemi and Chiyuri are from the future. Yumemi is a university professor and Magical Astronomy takes place in a university, and Yumemi comes from a world where everything has been unified and is trying to discover magic, just like how Maribel comes from a world where energy has been unified and is trying to discover "magic" (of sorts), hence the title MAGICal Astronomy. Mary's even called a magician at the end to hammer this point home.
Also, Magical Astronomy and I think some of the other stories flat out state that Maribel's world is in fact the future of our world (and thus, Gensokyo's), and thus not some parallel dimension. It uses sentences like "In the near future", etc.
As for the trips to the moon, part of the whole point of Mary wanting to go to the Moon ASAP is she's worried that humanity will start colonizing the moon, which for whatever reason will do... SOMETHING to Lunarian society (it's not explicit what, though). Lunarians themselves in the present day are worried about things like humans claiming the moon for their own via flags, as well, so apparently humanity colonizing the moon will be bad for them. Regular trips generally don't do much though because the lunarians are protected by a barrier similar to Gensokyo's that keeps outsiders from ever finding them on the moon.
The official references for all of the above can be found in the wiki.
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ZUN declared that PC-98 isn't canon. ...that said, Yumemi and Chiyuri were probably the proto-type or precursor idea for Maribel's world and some of its concepts. Chiyuri's title is sailor who travels through time, implying that Yumemi and Chiyuri are from the future. Yumemi is a university professor and Magical Astronomy takes place in a university, and Yumemi comes from a world where everything has been unified and is trying to discover magic
In the Seihou world magic isn't used or proven either, and only Muse actually uses it. Yuuka notices that they don't use it either, so the duo could very well be from the Seihou world. possibly even from its future. (Although if it's the future, that'd make little sense, as they are still using nuclear power)
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In the Seihou world magic isn't used or proven either, and only Muse actually uses it. Yuuka notices that they don't use it either, so the duo could very well be from the Seihou world. possibly even from its future. (Although if it's the future, that'd make little sense, as they are still using nuclear power)
Considering the fact that Shusou Gyoku's prologue states "This tale is set on Earth, way in the future.", I'm not sure why people insist on debating whether it does or not. Certainly, Shusou Gyoku is likely not canon to Touhou, but that doesn't change the fact that it and Touhou are set on earth. People who say Seihou and Touhou take place in parallel dimensions is the equivalent of saying Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Sailor Moon take place in parallel dimensions, which I always felt was complete nonsense (or more specifically, completely pointless, for reasons I'll explain). They all take place on earth, just in different canons, which, while similar to the concept of parallel dimensions, has quite a LOT of key differences. Mainly that any attempts to debate on what's true and what's not regarding the relationship between the two is completely pointless because they aren't canon to each other.
So basically, if you wanted to write a fanfic that incorporated both Touhou and Seihou, you could either have them be parallel dimensions, or have them both be earth (tho of course Seihou specifically states it takes place in the future) and neither would contradict canon (beyond the fact that both of them exist together in that fanfic depending on your point of view) because the two have no initial canon relation and likely never will.
...course, it's technically not directly stated the two aren't canon to each other. It's wholly possible the extra stage where Vivit met Marisa and Reimu really did happen in ZUN's idea of canon Touhou (and it'd be windows series, since it's clearly windows Marisa and Reimu she meets) but whatever. In that case, I'd just go with what's stated on the tin. Seihou states it takes place in the far future of earth, and Touhou takes place on earth. The end. Any plot inconsistencies or silliness could simply be chalked up to the writers not doing the research.
.....anyways, canon or not, me personally, I feel there's a decent chance ZUN had Seihou in mind when he made the world of Maribel's time. In Maribel's time, which is the near future (Magical Astronomy or Retrospective 53 minutes specifically states "near future", while Seihou specifically states "way in the future"), the environment is already going to hell in a handbasket. The girl eats synthetic strawberries and bamboo shoots. Thus, logically speaking, Seihou being the far future where the environment has been all but anhiliated is merely the logical progression of the future from Maribel's time. But of course, that's just a theory with no way to prove it (...or any point to proving it).
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Milia is 29 in the first game, 26 in the secon, and in her 30s in the third of Seihou series. She is also the fastest Outside-world character.
Erich tries to destroy VIVIT during every incident.
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In PC-98 canon, Yuuka was the strongest of the youkai.
On terms of unrestrained power in Gensoyoko, Shikieiki is strongest. Reimu is the secondmost powerful, above Yukari.
stop that
EDIT: partly because :powerlevels: and partly because all of those claims are unconfirmed and possibly weakly founded
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stop that
Oh, right, There are no discussions of power level. I forgot about that.
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In th10, Kanako uses two sets of RGB disco lights at the last spellcard.
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Is it just me, or does Patchy's theme sound very similar to Rikako's during that middle part? Also Remi's theme sounds like the unused track, "Winds of Time," from PoDD.
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Erich's name means "forever" or "alone."
Erich is a bit of a pervert
Gates favorite color is pink.
Girls (even from other dimensions) comment about his scent.
Lagunas has a shota complex. (yeah.)
Considering that these are the manliest characters of the seihou series...
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I only just noticed that Marisa is ALWAYS a Stage 4 boss, with the exception of the Phantasmogorias and fighting games, neither of them having real stages. [PoFV calls Komachi the midboss and Shiki the Boss in the music room descrptions...]. Although Marisa can be a stage 4 boss in both PoDD and PoFV.
SoEW: Stage 4
LLS: Stage 4
IN: Stage 4
GFW: Extra Stage... but GFW only has 3 stages in the main game, so she's technically Stage 4 AGAIN, at least chronologically.
Despite always being the 4th boss, Marisa has been slightly different in nature every time:
SoEW: Penultimate Boss
LLS: Normal Boss
IN: Midboss and Boss
GFW: Extra Boss
Weird...
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Yo Danny Fenton he was just 14
When his parents built a very strange machine
It was designed to view a world unseen
When it didn't work, his folks they just quit
Then Danny took a look inside of it
There was a great big flash, everything just changed
His molecules got all rearranged
When he first woke up, he realized
He had snow white hair, and glowing green eyes
He could walk through walls, disappear, and fly
He was much more unique than the other guys
And it was then that he knew what he had to do
He had to stop all the ghosts that were coming through
He's here to fight for me and you
(He's gonna catch 'em all, 'cause he's Danny Phantom
Gonna catch 'em all, 'cause he's Danny Phantom
Gonna catch 'em all, 'cause he's
Danny Phantom)
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I only just noticed that Marisa is ALWAYS a Stage 4 boss, with the exception of the Phantasmogorias and fighting games, neither of them having real stages. [PoFV calls Komachi the midboss and Shiki the Boss in the music room descrptions...]. Although Marisa can be a stage 4 boss in both PoDD and PoFV.
SoEW: Stage 4
LLS: Stage 4
IN: Stage 4
GFW: Extra Stage... but GFW only has 3 stages in the main game, so she's technically Stage 4 AGAIN, at least chronologically.
Despite always being the 4th boss, Marisa has been slightly different in nature every time:
SoEW: Penultimate Boss
LLS: Normal Boss
IN: Midboss and Boss
GFW: Extra Boss
Weird...
WAIT! In Shuuso Gyoku she is the Extra Stage Boss #1, and that game has 6 stages before it!
While you might argue that it is in Seihou, the sister series of Touhou, and therefore not canon, I might remind you that it IS canon for Seihou.
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In Double Spoiler Stage 7, Shou and Nazrin uses spellcards named「ハングリータイガー」(Hungry Tiger) and 「ゴールドラッシュ」(Gold Rush).
Coincidentally (or not), 'Hungry Tiger' and 'Gold Rush' are both names of Hamburger franchises in Japan.
Does anyone know how famous these franchises are?
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Marisa knows she's in a game. Or she attributes life to that of videogames... She's genre-savvy.
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EoSD
Stage 6
Marisa Route
Marisa - "...you don't seem to have a brain."
Remilia - "Humans are the only ones
who need simple chemical
thought centers such as brains. "
That means... most, if not all non-human in Gensokyo is lacking a brain?
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Marisa knows she's in a game. Or she attributes life to that of videogames... She's genre-savvy.
So is Alice, actually.
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That means... most, if not all non-human in Gensokyo is lacking a brain?
I remember reading somewhere that youkai and the like are more spiritual constructs than they are physical beings.
Here it is: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Youkai
Just read "Youkai in Touhou."
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So is Alice, actually.
Parsee too. although she might be playing along.