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hyorinryu

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #510 on: February 07, 2015, 07:00:48 PM »
It took 4 tries, but I beat it.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #511 on: February 07, 2015, 08:12:54 PM »
meanwhile im just losing to kanetsugu over and over

stupid wood and dark ninjas i always have 0 hearts spawn vs them like wtf

Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #512 on: February 07, 2015, 10:02:27 PM »
im posting nudes without censors and no ones gonna stop me


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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #513 on: February 07, 2015, 10:41:17 PM »
im posting nudes without censors and no ones gonna stop me

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #514 on: February 07, 2015, 10:49:05 PM »
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #515 on: February 07, 2015, 11:46:36 PM »
Aaaaaah I just died four times in a row on floor four of Alt Tomb Of The Saint. Fuck this I give up, I'm keeping the rest of my stamina.
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #516 on: February 08, 2015, 12:14:09 AM »
im posting nudes without censors and no ones gonna stop me


why is this not in my house right now
I will make it little PJ bottoms so qtpie won't get cold
I need this

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #517 on: February 08, 2015, 02:04:48 AM »
why is this not in my house right now
I will make it little PJ bottoms so qtpie won't get cold
I need this

i want a tamadra plushie too ;w;

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #518 on: February 08, 2015, 05:28:11 PM »
Looks like I'm skilling up a Chaos Devil Dragon for the next two weeks. If I'm able to get it maxed, I can have his orb change up on turn one with Beelzebub/Byakko/Persephone/CDD/Christmas Lilith/Beelzebub (or Ronia)

Is subbing out Gryps Rider worth it? I'd have a -much- more reliable Byakko active if I can clear out waters, the turn one orb changer can help with otherwise disastrous opening boards, but CDD doesn't have any offensive awoken skills.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #519 on: February 08, 2015, 08:50:12 PM »
I'm beginning to suspect that at least a few of my friends are those weird players who log in constantly but never, ever play. I just made a spreadsheet to track what rank everyone is now and again in a week and possibly the week after. I don't mind having low-level friends at all as long as they're actively rising through the ranks, but I think some of them have been rank 131 or whatever for four months, and they need to go.

And speaking of weird stuff with friends, I have been losing +297 I&I friends alarmingly steadily. It seems like once a month at least I realize one of them hasn't logged on in two weeks and have to delete them. That rarely if ever happens with anyone else, just +297 I&Is. What's going on with that? And how long do you guys wait for someone to be inactive before you delete them? If someone lost or broke their phone and is just waiting for a new one to come in the mail and for their account information to transfer I don't want to delete them prematurely, but I can't have my entire friends list clogged with people who have quit the game either. Is a week reasonable? Now that I think about it that may be a little short, maybe two weeks would be better.
I made a PADHerder. It's probably out of date though.

Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #520 on: February 08, 2015, 09:09:41 PM »
And how long do you guys wait for someone to be inactive before you delete them?

I usually go for at least one week. I'll go down to like three days depending on how badly I need space and don't want to stone for more.

hyorinryu

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #521 on: February 08, 2015, 09:34:13 PM »
I usually go for at least one week. I'll go down to like three days depending on how badly I need space and don't want to stone for more.

I just check once a month and see who hasn't played in a while.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #522 on: February 08, 2015, 09:54:20 PM »
Almost halfway.


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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #523 on: February 08, 2015, 10:00:13 PM »
So... what happened to "one in six-thousand chances to drop" again? :V

Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #524 on: February 08, 2015, 10:38:49 PM »
So... what happened to "one in six-thousand chances to drop" again? :V

I took it out back, beat it to death with a nail bat, and threw the mangled remains into the dumpster

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #525 on: February 08, 2015, 10:45:01 PM »
I've seen a lot of stuff that refutes the claims of incredible rarity for Piis, but not a lot that confirms it. Can anyone provide any anecdotes of hundreds of runs with no Pii drops to counterbalance out fairly high droprate of them? I'm interested in what the actual rates are and don't want to get all confirmation bias-y, but so far "one in six thousand" seems way off to me.
I made a PADHerder. It's probably out of date though.

Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #526 on: February 08, 2015, 11:00:05 PM »
I've seen a lot of stuff that refutes the claims of incredible rarity for Piis, but not a lot that confirms it. Can anyone provide any anecdotes of hundreds of runs with no Pii drops to counterbalance out fairly high droprate of them? I'm interested in what the actual rates are and don't want to get all confirmation bias-y, but so far "one in six thousand" seems way off to me.

It's definitely way off.

I recently tallied up my runs for Alt. Satan in the spreadsheet, and I'm now at 499 runs. The drop rate before at 250 logged runs was about 1%, and even after doubling that number my rate still seems to be the same. Even my plus egg rate is still 30%ish, so I think I have a notable amount of runs for this specific area logged now.

Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #527 on: February 09, 2015, 01:28:22 AM »
oh boy hnk collab tomorrow

time to flush all the stones from this event down the drain

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #528 on: February 09, 2015, 02:20:44 AM »
oh boy hnk collab tomorrow

time to flush all the stones from this event down the drain
I'm more interested in the "mini china girls" event for the PAL Machine...Is that still going to happen, or did I miss it? I have about 1800 FP right now.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #529 on: February 09, 2015, 02:26:24 AM »
I'm mot interested in the "mini china girls" event for the PAL Machine...Is that still going to happen, or did I miss it? I have about 1800 FP right now.

I have some bad news for you.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #530 on: February 09, 2015, 02:42:03 AM »
I have some bad news for you.
Welp.  :derp: Guess I'm rolling for evo mats!

UPDATE: Turns out I was thinking for the Heroes of the Three Kingdoms series. Whoops.

Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #531 on: February 09, 2015, 08:41:31 AM »
Woke up at 2:58AM due to a questionably bad dream. Felt very awake.



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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #532 on: February 09, 2015, 08:58:28 AM »
I have passed tests harder than yours, God-King. Now give me your stone.

You are the leilan master.

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UEVO Survey #3!
This time they're categorized.
One from Pantheon, special, and descended category will win!
Honestly I have no idea what to vote for pantheon. 3k and heroes are out of the equation (pls pandora or lu bu ppl don't vote them they're getting their OP uevo realll soon), probably roman 2.0s. Special god's gonna be a tough choice for everyone :V ronia please don't win again...
As for descend, I think dark iza would be the most useful if she just get some more awakenings, but maybe goemon has a chance simply because of nostalgia? who knows :V

Time to play the guessing game! :v :v :V
Pantheon: Sakuya
Special: LKali
Descend: Dark Iza

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #533 on: February 09, 2015, 09:14:38 AM »
Who I want to win:
Pantheon: Venus
Special: BOdin/ROdin/Skuld
Descended: Athena or Wadatsumi (B/G pls)

Who I predict will actually win:
Pantheon: Kirin
Special: LKali or DKali
Descended: Sonia Grand or one of the Heras

Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #534 on: February 09, 2015, 12:47:39 PM »
So there was some hubbub about some Japanese Rank 600 player who is non-IAP, and just hit his 1000th day not too long ago. People are asking him how he maintains his efficiency, and someone's gone and translated what he has to say. I find it interesting that I've found some of these truths on my own, but maybe other people might glean something useful from it as well. I'm gonna also highlight things that I think are extremely good points as my own addition to this.

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1. Magic stones are important. Get every one that you can get.
a. Get the stones from PADW. <-(JP Only)
b. Get the stones from Challenge Mode and Coin Dungeons.

2. Don't use stamina to play urgent TAMADRA dungeons. Get all the TAMADRAs from S ranks.

3. Refrain from collab REM. YOLO once if you REALLY love the subject.
a. Collab Gold Egg rate is way too low.
b. They're more trophies than actually use. Not enough people put them up as leads to pair with.
c. Wait 3 days to roll if you REALLY want something.
d. Roll more for subs instead of leads since you won't have the corresponding collab monster to pair with.
e. Most of the collab monsters can be substituted by other monsters.

4. Be patient when farming Spirit Jewels
a. Wait for 1.5x rates.
b. Need to have a high clear rate if invaded
c. Only farm on useful descends, where a skilled up boss is actually useful
d. Save 3 of every Spirit Jewel
e. Don't pick and choose on the gift dungeons. You'll get all of them eventually.

5. Don't burn stones on Super Gold, Fat dragons, TAMADRAs. It's only for speed and has diminishing returns.

6. Since the overflow stamina from stamina refresh can be saved, does rank still matter?
a. Of course. Higher ranks means higher total stamina.
b. You can have more overflow stamina from higher ranks.
c. You can have more team slots.

7. Have enough monster boxes. He keeps at least 100 open monster boxes.

8. Friend management. He only has 100 friends.

9. Skill ups
a. Important and often used skills MUST be skilled up
b. Not often used or those that can be substituted can be skilled up as they come.

c. Consider if there are any other additional value to the skill up dungeon?

10. Value of Piis. Many people value them at 5 stones. He values them at 3 stones.
a. The value of piis will decrease, just like the value of TAMADRAs. Spending a bunch of stones or a bunch of stamina just for piis is not wise.
b. The need to use piis are lower than what you think. Eventually you'll have a bunch of piis sitting around without anyone to use them.
c. If he were to spend more than 3 stones for piis, he'd rather play Coin Dungeons.

11. Who should I feed piis to?
a. Those without skill up dungeons (i.e., collab monsters, Greek 1 UVO, monsters that change skills after UVO).
b. Monsters that are hard to attain.
c. Monsters that refuse to skill up.


12. Team composition and +egg investment
Game meta changes so far. He won't be suggesting anyone to target a specific team. Every team can be very strong when taken to its limit. Focus more on what you have fun playing.


13. Coin Dungeon
Where is the value of Coin Dungeons for you? Is it piis? If so, how many stones is that worth to you? Or is it the rank exp? Or is the food exp?
a. Rank exp: Alt. Castle of Satan has the highest rank exp.
b. Food exp: Coin Dungeons have better food exp than the lower rank mobs from King of the Gods
c. +egg rate: Coin Dungeons have lower +egg rate than King of the Gods, but still not bad. Rates a bit lower on stages with pengdras of course.
d. Don't have time to play? Play high stamina dungeons to burn through stamina.
e. Coin Dungeons too expensive? They aren't. You burn through coins really slow, so you wouldn't be losing much coins even if you don't farm coins.
f. You can still play with high efficiency even if you don't IAP.


14. PAD development and non-IAP approach
GungHo is a for-profit company, they're still there to make money.
There are still a lot of good points about the game:
a. Lots of free stones.
b. Higher Gold Egg rate than other games.
c. Change from 10 minutes per stamina to 5 minutes per stamina

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #535 on: February 09, 2015, 01:34:06 PM »
Time to play the guessing game! :v :v :V
Pantheon: Sakuya
Special: LKali
Descend: Dark Iza

Your guesses are probably right. As for what I want to win:

Pantheon:
-Horus. This is the only one where it isn't a tossup for me even a little. Egypts are going to get their badass spirit jewel evolutions anyway since they're old and most of them are a little outdated, so why not kickstart that process by doing the least of their brothers first? There are so many areas for improvement that it would be easy.

Special:
-Green Guan Yu. Am I mistaken in thinking he's the least sought-after and used special god? He could use a boost.

-White Kali. She's good and I play heeeeer. For silliness give her a bunch of new awakenings but make them all either HP Boost or Attack Boost. For minmax give her an extra skill boost, some buffed stats, and maybe a bind resist and stuff.

Descend:
-Can I just cram Beyzul in this slot? Give him a skillboost, a second typing, and a lower cooldown nooooow!

-Dark Izanami. She's already one of the best ones, but she's still a little off. I hate to see dark get something before the other colors at this point though, so maybe not.

-Goemon. Let's warp the metagame by making him really good again! Make his leader skill buff gods! I don't know if that would be enough but maybe!

-Hercules. Too cool to be this useless.
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #536 on: February 09, 2015, 01:37:20 PM »
... quad TPA Beelzebub uvo? :V

I think LZL could -really- use an uvo to not be destroyed by any semblance of a pre-emptive.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #537 on: February 09, 2015, 04:22:02 PM »
What's the point of skill binding for 3 turns when you take 3 turns to attack anyway.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed
« Reply #538 on: February 09, 2015, 04:25:53 PM »
Apparently some teams have trouble dealing 2 million damage without actives in six turns. If you mistime your kill on turn 4 or 5 you'll still be bound on the boss, though.