Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed

[Thaws]

What do you guys think of Athena in challenge 6? She seems very well suited to handle it, except weirdly Takeminakata seems like the toughest floor because the combo odds are not as stacked as usual against his truckload of health. Unless I'm missing something it should still work though, and I guess I'd be willing to drop a few stones if things go terribly wrong. I really want that white Pii for my Kalis.

I don't even want them, I just gotta bust that union to protect my interests as "the Valkyrie guy". Take what you want, as long as they're not all in one place.

LKali herself is a good team to do lv 6 in general because no hearts

Also it's okay you can be the Reine guy

[commandercool]

Cleared it with Athena. Cost me a stone on Izanami because I underestimated the reduced move time and horrendously botched my GZL active turn, but that's allkay. In retrospect maybe I should have used Kali, but my lack of an acceptable dark sub held me back. Should have done it anyway I guess, just to see.

[hyorinryu]

What do you guys think of Athena in challenge 6? She seems very well suited to handle it, except weirdly Takeminakata seems like the toughest floor because the combo odds are not as stacked as usual against his truckload of health. Unless I'm missing something it should still work though, and I guess I'd be willing to drop a few stones if things go terribly wrong. I really want that white Pii for my Kalis.

I don't even want them, I just gotta bust that union to protect my interests as "the Valkyrie guy". Take what you want, as long as they're not all in one place.

You can just use Angelits for Kali though. I kinda want the Pii for Izanagi. Genbu comes up 2 turns before him now.

[commandercool]

You can just use Angelits for Kali though. I kinda want the Pii for Izanagi. Genbu comes up 2 turns before him now.

Can and have, but since I have two Kalis and an awful Devilit to Angelit rate I'm willing to lose the fairly rare Pii in order to be able to stop farming Angelits that much sooner. I have a loooong way to go on that.

Does anyone know if Piis work on secondary colors? I'm assuming they don't since they're used through fusion and experience through fusion only cares about primary color, but that it might change which alt dungeons I farm if Flampys skill up Kali.

[OverlordChirei]

Does anyone know if Piis work on secondary colors? I'm assuming they don't since they're used through fusion and experience through fusion only cares about primary color, but that it might change which alt dungeons I farm if Flampys skill up Kali.

They do not. You can try this with any Py - it will not flash white if you try to feed it that way, which would signal a 100% skillup rate (feeding max level ult dupes do this also).

[trancehime]

I think I'm starting to see why LKali is a hot pick for special gods

[commandercool]

Apparently once you're in the Pii club you're really in it. I had never had a skillup monster before today. Even saw another Shynpy before my runs were done, although it didn't drop.

Still absolute jack shit for +eggs from alt dungeons though. I have literally gotten two ever, from probably around a hundred runs at this point.

[Moogs Parfait]

I lost 90% of my runs today, mostly to groups of Pys

I'm super frustrated and don't want to play anymore, but the sunk cost fallacy is too strong

[Jq1790]

I lost 90% of my runs today, mostly to groups of Pys

I'm super frustrated and don't want to play anymore, but the sunk cost fallacy is too strong

Just take it easy.  There's a reason people call it the Pypocalypse.

Have you tried bringing in a Def-to-0 monster like Shiva or Top Droidragon?  When I figure out a better team to roll with I'm thinking i'll be trying just that due to the High Dragons also being annoying.  I've died twice there so far today.

[The Greatest Dog]

I lost 90% of my runs today, mostly to groups of Pys

I'm super frustrated and don't want to play anymore, but the sunk cost fallacy is too strong

I'm so sorry.

[Mr. Sacchi]

I'm so sorry.

I... actually found myself in the exact same situation when I ran challenge 5, only it was one shynpy and two bubpys.

The fact that I was playing an LMeta team with a max skilled echidna may or may not have had a huge impact on my survival and subsequent victory over the dungeon.

[commandercool]

If you've got a 2/4/2 team I strongly advise you to use it there, especially if you can work in some prongs to deal with the high dragons. With good HP and recovery the Piis really aren't a problem, and because the high dragons work the way they do it's easy to stall on them and enter every floor with your skills up. And the boss is pretty frail and doesn't hit incredibly hard aside from his gravity, so a team without huge attack can still deal with him fairly easily. In fact, any kind of stall team should be fine as long as you bring some way to break or ignore defense. At that point the only thing to be worried about is the devils since they're kind of rough on stall teams, but again prongs are useful there and you can always go into floors with your skills all or mostly up. Challenge five is just a very spike-unfriendly dungeon.

[Moogs Parfait]

After playing in the bath using my wife's bubble bath and incense diffuser, I cleared up to challenge 6.   I don't know what I'm going to do with this light py now though.

Star Vault tomorrow, if it was all day I'd buy some stones dammit.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I'm so sorry.

On the bright side, at least you're only taking 25% of that damage? :x

[trancehime]

https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/562486926922362881

ayy lmao

[Moogs Parfait]

https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/562486926922362881

ayy lmao

I'm sorry to make you explain the joke but I don't get it

Also fuck Light Chasers

[Thaws]

I AM NOW THE MASTER OF VALKYRIES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2OWeO-bQHY
Have I earned the title yet. :V

and wow I suck at this game when I don't have fingers.

[trancehime]

I'm sorry to make you explain the joke but I don't get it

Also fuck Light Chasers

i accidentally the 3 blue jewels needed for the ultimate evolution and i didn't even know i had the materials for her until i checked my box

[commandercool]

Just got seven +eggs in three runs of Star Vault. Would have gotten four more runs by going into an alt dungeon to rank up, but I tried to go too fast to squeeze all of the runs into my lunch break and died. Oh well. Seven is still pretty great.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Amazing, I try three times to beat Guardian Dragon of God with the LMeta team, and fail miserably all three times, I try to do it twice with my Horus team, and that, too, fails.

I then go "yolo" and try to do it with my (Horribly, horribly underleveled) GZL team, I succeed first try.

What.

@Edit:

Just tried Goddess of Harvest, GZL team strikes again with a first-try win despite facing what should be certain death twice in the run.

Is it supposed to be so easy?

[Edible]

Welcome to GZL, enjoy your stay.

[commandercool]

Do people use Hercules on GZL? I guess his cooldown is a little long, but his stats and active seem notable.

[Edible]

No TPAs, doesn't change orbs, and isn't an attacker

Not the worst sub for him, I guess, but...

[commandercool]

I guess he's probably situational for dungeons where you get healed up but don't want to. I just want an excuse to run Hercules..  Maybe Goemon I guess, if anyone still uses that.

[hyorinryu]

I guess he's probably situational for dungeons where you get healed up but don't want to. I just want an excuse to run Hercules..  Maybe Goemon I guess, if anyone still uses that.

I don't really like Herc in Goemon. A lot of your subs aren't God, and Herc himself is off color, which is a problem when your whole board is red. I'd take Freyr, Bubbles, or Irfit before Herc.  I think he'd do better in GZL, though I don't like him there either. He needs a remake IMO. You need a team of green guys who are both physical and god, and the only notable people I can of that fit either make hearts or have you gain life. They should change it to physical and gods or something.

[commandercool]

What he needs is a badass spirit jewel ultimate evolution that makes him buff gods and gives him a few new awakens including a prong or prongs. That'd make him a lot more notable. And he'll probably get it eventually.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Remember how Athena was kind of sorta just there and not really was a thing until she got her uvo?

Remember how strong she is now? (Though admittedly, the two-prong buff certainly helped.)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the same will apply to Herc if he ever gets a jewel-based uvo, which I'm also going to assume is going to happen eventually to every descend boss.

Eventually.

[commandercool]

Not all of them are probably going to be Athena quality (which is to say, "Hera-Is is kind of a dud"). But much better is still likely and appreciated.

[Suikama]

At this point you could make almost any monster in the game go from bad to good just by slapping 2 or 3 TPAs on them

_{*coughisiscoughgunghopls*}

[hyorinryu]

At this point you could make almost any monster in the game go from bad to good just by slapping 2 or 3 TPAs on them

_{*coughisiscoughgunghopls*}

Are you saying that Isis is bad  :smug:

I don't think Herc even needs TPAs. He just needs more people to choose from aside from GGY and Parvati. He actually has some subs, but he needs orbchangers pretty bad.

You could somthing like Herc-GGY-B/G Fafnir-G/L Parvati-Guan Yinping if you wanted though. If you wanted, you could replce GGY with Cu and Parvati with something. Heartmaking isn't as important, so I'm go with maybe Zhang Fei.