Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed

[commandercool]

At this point you could make almost any monster in the game go from bad to good just by slapping 2 or 3 TPAs on them

_{*coughisiscoughgunghopls*}

Quad-prong Gabriel? Come on Gungho, he's just got four awakenings. Isn't that a little low for an REM god that needs rare evo materials? Prongs, do it now. I'd take more skillboosts instead. I won't even be greedy and ask for more rows.

[Suikama]

Are you saying that Isis is bad  :smug:

she needs more damage

its kind of sad when 5x leaders like Kali and U&Y can have double TPAs on top of that while Isis has none on top of really low base attack

also her slightly higher tank stats are also kind of useless when there's HP/RCV boosting spike leaders now too like Hathor and SoniaG

[OverlordChirei]

Jan 17 22:39:21 <Chirei>   I can't beat goemon mythical either
Jan 17 22:40:33 <Thaws>   Chirei, but you've no-stoned stuff wayy more difficult than goemon...

You're right. I didn't believe enough.



First try, no Jewel, but two plus eggs. Pretty good for 50 stamina.

[Edible]

Three skillups today on Apocalypse.

Yay!

[hyorinryu]

To the people planning on taking on challenge 5 with 2/4/2, I just have to say make sure you have a way to deal highs. I went 1.5/5/2, and they were annoying as hell. Each high needed two rows, except for red and green, the former only needed one, and the latter needed I&I on top on two rows. Duke wasn't too bad though. That was my first time seeing him and not oneshotting him to black though.

she needs more damage

its kind of sad when 5x leaders like Kali and U&Y can have double TPAs on top of that while Isis has none on top of really low base attack

also her slightly higher tank stats are also kind of useless when there's HP/RCV boosting spike leaders now too like Hathor and SoniaG

I can believe that. I don't really like SoniaG though.

Challenge 6 was a lot  easier than I thought it would be. I owe it to Takeminakata not doing any damage until Unforgivable Revision.

[Thaws]

goemon rekt

told ya :V
Good job!

To the people planning on taking on challenge 5 with 2/4/2, I just have to say make sure you have a way to deal highs. I went 1.5/5/2, and they were annoying as hell. Each high needed two rows, except for red and green, the former only needed one, and the latter needed I&I on top on two rows. Duke wasn't too bad though. That was my first time seeing him and not oneshotting him to black though.
I can believe that. I don't really like SoniaG though.

Challenge 6 was a lot  easier than I thought it would be. I owe it to Takeminakata not doing any damage until Unforgivable Revision.

I'm not sure if 2/4/2 is even worth it anymore now that Egypts 2.0s are basically 1.8/X/1.8 where X>=9
We're going into a new age of power creep since Egypts 2.0, now that everything is getting extra hp boosts without really sacrificing much in ATK multipliers -- see angels 2.0 (compared to china girls) and fist collab gold eggs (compared to heroes).

and yea, Takemina's definitely easier than either of the Izanamis, you get like 4 turns minimum of free damage.

[The Greatest Dog]

well
48 +eggs in an hour was fun.

[hyorinryu]

I'm not sure if 2/4/2 is even worth it anymore now that Egypts 2.0s are basically 1.8/X/1.8 where X>=9
We're going into a new age of power creep since Egypts 2.0, now that everything is getting extra hp boosts without really sacrificing much in ATK multipliers -- see angels 2.0 (compared to china girls) and fist collab gold eggs (compared to heroes).

and yea, Takemina's definitely easier than either of the Izanamis, you get like 4 turns minimum of free damage.

Well, 2/4/2 does get more flexibility with subs, though that's not really much. They also get a few rows too.  Well, Takemina was replacing Hino Kagu, not the Izanamis. I think Light Hino Kagu is the hardest to deal tbh.

[The Greatest Dog]

I would figure dark Hino with his preemptive 99% in a no-RCV dungeon would hurt more than light Hino.

[Thaws]

Well, 2/4/2 does get more flexibility with subs, though that's not really much. They also get a few rows too.  Well, Takemina was replacing Hino Kagu, not the Izanamis. I think Light Hino Kagu is the hardest to deal tbh.

Yea, only thing I can say about Egypts 2.0 and Angels 2.0 is that they're aware of how good they can be and didn't give rows and more than 1 TPA to them. (I mean, it's kinda obvious gungho themselves are conscious that orb enhance is still inferior which would explain why they're giving the new stuff with borderline OP LSes with all these orb enhance awakenings, right. Just look at the norns and imagine if they had rows instead of enhance.)

I got kinda confused as they're switching around all the japanese god bosses on various iterations of lv6 :V

I would figure dark Hino with his preemptive 99% in a no-RCV dungeon would hurt more than light Hino.

Depends. Seeing Dark Hino in it would make me prefer using DMeta or similar 80% under leads, while otherwise I might use rainbow teams like LKali which benefits a lot from the lack of hearts.
I have to agree Dark Hino is the harder one, but that's because DarkHino->LightIza was the most traumatic lv6 as of today imo

[OverlordChirei]

well
48 +eggs in an hour was fun.

How many stones did that take?

[The Greatest Dog]

How many stones did that take?

2 plus rank up. Still better in my opinion than dropping 5 for a Toy Dragon.

[Chaore]

Yea, only thing I can say about Egypts 2.0 and Angels 2.0 is that they're aware of how good they can be and didn't give rows and more than 1 TPA to them. (I mean, it's kinda obvious gungho themselves are conscious that orb enhance is still inferior which would explain why they're giving the new stuff with borderline OP LSes with all these orb enhance awakenings, right. Just look at the norns and imagine if they had rows instead of enhance.)

I think it was a bit overkill for a number of them though, really. :v

[Suikama]

Nut hypermaxed!


...okay +296 but close enough :V


i also have like 45 +eggs just sitting around waiting for you know who >_>

one day <_<

[OverlordChirei]

2 plus rank up. Still better in my opinion than dropping 5 for a Toy Dragon.

was that like 20 runs or what

[The Greatest Dog]

I think 27~30 or so runs. I've been waiting for this!

doing the math it was more like exactly 25 actually

[hyorinryu]

Depends. Seeing Dark Hino in it would make me prefer using DMeta or similar 80% under leads, while otherwise I might use rainbow teams like LKali which benefits a lot from the lack of hearts.
I have to agree Dark Hino is the harder one, but that's because DarkHino->LightIza was the most traumatic lv6 as of today imo

Well, I have to admit, this is coming from someone who mostly spams Kirin, but the reason I'd rather deal with dark Hino is because if I can get below 50%, he gives me more set up time, while Light Hino just starts oneshotting me. I can usually pop Angelion and get a decent amount of health back that way in time for Izanami. Light Izanami in a No RCV dungeon is annoying regardless though.

[OverlordChirei]

spend 1m for an hour of dungeons, get a third of it back from one run

[Suikama]

so HnK collab boss is Raoh again lol

his active though is counter attack x10 dmg and he's dark

him on a luci team tanking a 50k hit would reflect it back for 500k :V

[trancehime]

Hokuto no Ken REM rolls

1. Mamiya
2. Mamiya
3. Shuu
4. Mamiya
5. Toki

hello blue healers

[Suikama]

Why the hell is Satan floor 23 in endless corridors

Like he's the hardest thing in this dungeon. 6.6 million hp is ridiculous especially since there's RCV orbs unlike his usual dungeon. The final two bosses combined don't even match up to his hp.

[Edible]

Drawn Joker Suikama.

[Suikama]

Drawn Joker Suikama.

wat how does drawn joker help me beat sata-


oh

_{league collab when}

[Thaws]

omg 9 combos omgomgomgomg


nope

So my 3rd try at Hera Rush ended at Wave 4/6 Beroc. Much better than my first two runs with L/L Ra which ended on wave 1 Ur.
Only frd #One_True_God is +297, there's almost no +s on my own stuff so I didn't expect to get anywhere tbh. I don't even have an Anubis. :/

[trancehime]

LKali steamrolled through the Hokuto no Ken Collab dungeon. lol

[Mr. Sacchi]

So I just deleted like almost half of my friend's list so I could clean it up from my monored days, if I deleted someone from here by accident, lemme know, I'll add you again.

[trancehime]

https://twitter.com/nico_wrng/status/562831928311951360

How to use Souther's AS on a single-colored board to guarantee 3 rows of that color

Souther confirmed best Silver egg

[OverlordChirei]

Why the hell is Satan floor 23 in endless corridors

Like he's the hardest thing in this dungeon. 6.6 million hp is ridiculous especially since there's RCV orbs unlike his usual dungeon. The final two bosses combined don't even match up to his hp.

I seriously just blow every active on him as if he were the true boss. Any highly levelled and egged team worth their salt should be able to stall everything back up before wave 29 at this point.

[commandercool]

This latest update means that we can now see whether or not a coin dungeon has been cleared before buying it. That is very useful, I don't know why it didn't do that before.

[hyorinryu]

No Andromeda ult makes me sad On the birght side, it sounds like we're getting the 3K chibis.