Puzzle & Dragons forever 17 - Star Vault Didn't Go So Well: I Was Nonplussed

[Chaore]

100% gravity isn't actually too bad since all you need is 1 resist awakening to survive it :V

Also double awoken teams would reduce it to just 25%

Which is why it works.

You need a very specific slot in just to work (assuming it's not just dark or light which defeats the point of it), but the workaround works, so it's 'fair' (TM).

For kicks, Wood type gravity, Combo shield of less than 4.

Hades still works, but it's the smallest pool of acceptable leaders.

You can just add a dark absorb down the line.

[Thaws]

tbh I'm going to bet almost by default you're going to need a better team than grand sonia to get grand sonia :v

She's still aethestically amazing though, seriously.

Well some people mentioned that back in the days, people would be willing to pay like 30 stones just to clear Zeus with Vamp 4x Dark team (because that's the best you can do pretty much back then), and Zeus was simply worth it to some people back then.
How many stones would Sonia Gran worth? She's pretty much a special god level character with skills, awakenings and stats like that.

[commandercool]

This is where PAD's format, which I'm usually relatively fond of for what it is (a parasitic, money-hungry mobile game) shoots itself in the foot a little. I like dungeons where the dungeon itself is a puzzle. That's why I think Thoth And Sopdet is the best dungeon in the game. But make the puzzle too complex and it becomes unsolvable by the non-rich, non-superlucky majority.

Requiring teams to be built a specific way to have a chance of handling a dungeon is already sketchy because of the sheer luck needed to get a great team online, but requiring someone to carefully craft a very specific key team to your puzzle dungeon is an unreasonably tall order. Not to say they won't do it anyway, but at that point it just becomes annoying when it might have been cool if the game worked a little differently.

[Edible]

ps

Lumiel evolved is omega cute levels

She's all like YAY

I can imagine her as Durga's personal cheerleader

[Thaws]

ps

Lumiel evolved is omega cute levels

She's all like YAY

I can imagine her as Durga's personal cheerleader

dat high res art on 33mil DL event banner. kawaii

[Suikama]

This is where PAD's format, which I'm usually relatively fond of for what it is (a parasitic, money-hungry mobile game) shoots itself in the foot a little. I like dungeons where the dungeon itself is a puzzle. That's why I think Thoth And Sopdet is the best dungeon in the game. But make the puzzle too complex and it becomes unsolvable by the non-rich, non-superlucky majority.

Requiring teams to be built a specific way to have a chance of handling a dungeon is already sketchy because of the sheer luck needed to get a great team online, but requiring someone to carefully craft a very specific key team to your puzzle dungeon is an unreasonably tall order. Not to say they won't do it anyway, but at that point it just becomes annoying when it might have been cool if the game worked a little differently.

To be fair I think even the most gimmicky dungons can be beat with Anubis if you have enough skill :V

[Chaore]

Well some people mentioned that back in the days, people would be willing to pay like 30 stones just to clear Zeus with Vamp 4x Dark team (because that's the best you can do pretty much back then), and Zeus was simply worth it to some people back then.
How many stones would Sonia Gran worth? She's pretty much a special god level character with skills, awakenings and stats like that.

News to me. I don't think anyone that wasn't absurdly crazy or a whale would spend 30 as far back as I go, especially in -that- economy.

If you really -really- want to use her, I'd say 5 is a fair shake if you think you can get it done in that many.

Credit cashing would feel really dirty on the true final boss though, god damn.

...oh man, what if they just -force- you to no stone it? They can do that.

Gungho plz i want this so bad now.

[commandercool]

To be fair I think even the most gimmicky dungons can be beat with Anubis if you have enough skill :V

Naw man. I mean, based on everything in the game so far (aside from maybe dark absorb, because good luck getting 10x combo without hitting at least one set of dark orbs) that's true, but "the most gimmicky dungeon" could get pretty crazy.. There's no reason we couldn't see "absorb everything over four combos".

[Jq1790]

Naw man. I mean, based on everything in the game so far (aside from maybe dark absorb, because good luck getting 10x combo without hitting at least one set of dark orbs) that's true, but "the most gimmicky dungeon" could get pretty crazy.. There's no reason we couldn't see "absorb everything over four combos".

That would actually be an interesting idea on its own.  Have the boss also use a type-skyfall-boost skill to increase the odds of more combos so you had to ration your other orbs to try and make big clumps or something.

Dunno how it'd be in super-endgame true final boss stages, but as a mechanic on its own it could provide something new.

[Suikama]

what if they made it only beatable with luci :V

[Mr. Sacchi]

Wouldn't it be ironic if Ronia was capable of easily beating the entire dungeon except for Grand Sonia herself? :V

[Edible]

That's how it goes for nearly every dungeon ronia can almost but not quite roflstomp

There's usually only one stage that's fatal but oh man, is it fatal

[hyorinryu]

That would actually be an interesting idea on its own.  Have the boss also use a type-skyfall-boost skill to increase the odds of more combos so you had to ration your other orbs to try and make big clumps or something.

Dunno how it'd be in super-endgame true final boss stages, but as a mechanic on its own it could provide something new.

I hope they never do that. That'd be more frustrating than fun. See doing the Friday dungeon for more details(trying to knock out all but 1 or 2 of the lits is kinda like what you're proposing.)

[OverlordChirei]

Fine, 105% gravity.:v

A 105% Gravity would actually be reduced to do 99.75% damage with a mere 5% reduction, so you'd still live! /math

also r/b/d angels pretty why

[trancehime]

ps

Lumiel evolved is omega cute levels

https://twitter.com/fam_1227/status/558213422496481283

(o o)/

[Mr. Sacchi]

Oh hey, look at me, I just decided to do cave of dreaming on a whim... and actually got to the boss.

And actually lasted more than a single turn.

I just did the really stupid mistake of activating Angelion which lead to there being no way for me to do an actually decent light orb combo, so I was only able to take away about half of their health in the first turn, at which point I kinda exploded.

Still though, apparently doing trifruits isn't impossible for my LMeta team so yay for progress!

[Suikama]

The trifruits aren't actually that strong, compared to twinlits anyways.

Unlike twinlits they don't go rage mode so if you kill the green one and then either the red or blue, the last trifruit is ridiculously easy.

So basically you don't actually have to burst everything at once. You really just have to burst one of the red/blue ones, and then you can delay the green one and have 5 turns to kill it while the remaining fruit just pokes you every other turn.

[hyorinryu]

Yeah, if you wanted to use Raph, this would prolly be one of the best times to do so, since you can stall for him on the tama. Especially if you team with LZL.

[trancehime]

So basically you don't actually have to burst everything at once. You really just have to burst one of the red/blue ones, and then you can delay the green one and have 5 turns to kill it while the remaining fruit just pokes you every other turn.

I feel it's easiest to burst all of them down at once with mono-fire actually, I do it with Urd -> Murakumo OR Homura depending on the quantity of blue and heart orbs. Then I enhance+mini-grav with Hera-Ur and kill them with rows.

[Suikama]

YOU WA SHOCK

[Edible]

OH THANK CHRIST THEY DIDN'T FORGET ABOUT IT

[trancehime]

OH THANK CHRIST THEY DIDN'T FORGET ABOUT IT

(R) Kenshiro

(R/D) Raoh

[MatsuriSakuragi]

LKali skillups: 0/3 :persona:
Skuld skillups: 3/9 :toot:

Two more to go!

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

People who called Sonia Grand materials as Zaerog/Wangren/Beyzul/Threedia/Defoud - congrats you win. :V

[Thaws]

People who called Sonia Grand materials as Zaerog/Wangren/Beyzul/Threedia/Defoud - congrats you win. :V

The good thing is, she drops at 7 star and is totally usable even before ult. She already has the active and LS.
She starts with 3 awakenings only, UEVO gets you the rest of the six, and also +200/50/30 in stats.

The materials aren't even that bad, they could've made it much worse! (Those Fagan theories :V)

I want one for Hathor L/D sub now since I don't have Yomi/Venus!

[trancehime]

Confirmed No-Attribute Attack symbol in data asset

What if the descend nullifies all attributes at fight...?

[Suikama]

Nut skillups: 5/6

...its good to know that Isis` mom approves of me :3 :V

[Chaore]

Verdandi: 3/6
Elize: 0/1
Urd: 0/2

verdandi plz

[commandercool]

Yaaay Kali skillups 1/3 the curse is broken hail Kaliiiii.

So it seems my Gabriel team with a Metatron friend can clear Twinlits at least semi-reliably. The roughest room seems to be the Tamadra one, for no reason other than the game's auto-targeting, which seems to make hitting both Dublits at once without hitting the Tama impossible.

A little more tweaking of my strategy, a modest amount of luck, and hopefully some skillups for my friends should make this a thing. Oh yeah, and first two runs? Dropped two Devilits.

[Jq1790]

PEM was kind to me.

Water jewel is the only super rare drop, but with only one more thing I can do something cool.


However, the BEST drop was actually a dub-emelit.  With that, my mission to ult Perseus is complete and tomorrow I can even finish Awakening him.