Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition  (Read 176707 times)

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #90 on: December 19, 2014, 01:13:24 PM »
You essentially 'buy' +eggs by stoning Star Vault and x5 Door of Light and Shadow when those events roll along

There's also a Star Vault coin dungeon coming which you're really going to need to 'buy' since it costs 30 MILLION coins :V :colonveeplusalpha:

On normal days you run T5s and King of Gods over and over. It's boring as hell but it's the best way to get +eggs over time

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #91 on: December 19, 2014, 01:15:53 PM »
You essentially 'buy' +eggs by stoning Star Vault and x5 Door of Light and Shadow when those events roll along

There's also a Star Vault coin dungeon coming which you're really going to need to 'buy' since it costs 30 MILLION coins :V :colonveeplusalpha:

On normal days you run T5s and King of Gods over and over. It's boring as hell but it's the best way to get +eggs over time
Yea I read some JP dude who got 3600+ eggs(I think), just by running T5s and T6s. Although I also read he skipped a lot of skill up dungeons chances, and mostly just used a Zeus team. Which is hella boring. Lol.

I edited my previous post. I forgot you get a lot of +eggs in T5, esp OoH. Basically, it's a 4-in-1 package.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #92 on: December 19, 2014, 01:41:21 PM »
So everybody who was complaining about tamas, great job. Check PDX to see what y'all have unleashed with your complaining. (I'm looking at you cmd. cool and Matsy)

Yaaay! Squeaky wheel! Squeaky wheel!

I dunno why anyone would try to feed Baby Tamas. Srz, their evo mats aren't even hard to get. With the exception of Gold Dragons, which you have to wait for, but they practically drop at every floor.
If you have stones to spend for stamina refills, I'm sure you have stones for monster boxes where you could just farm evo mats and fill your boxes with it.

I don't know where I stand on this really. Ordinarily I sort of agree with you, but the Tamadra Village/Baby Tamadra thing yesterday was an experiment, and not a particularly conclusive one. I strongly disagree that the materials are easy to get though. Where on Earth are you getting surplus Topalits? Even without baby Tamadra concerns I'm four short, and I spent a moderate amount of time hunting for them. They are notoriously not easy to get, especially in multiples.

You might think it's time consuming, but it's really not. If you already have max most of your main monsters, you probably have other monsters that aren't even leveled yet. There are days when you don't want to do some Special Dungeon, or can't. Instead, the only thing you can do to optimize your stamina is to farm at a Normal Tier 5 - 6 Dungeon that has x1.5 rate. So, you farm for: evo mats, monster fodder, +eggs*, and Rank Exp. Practically you're hitting four* birds with one stone. Assuming you've already maxed your main monsters, all those fodder monsters has to go somewhere, which is to your latter monsters. It'd be a waste not feeding them. You don't need to consume time on just one monster at a time, when you can just level them up with the corresponding dungeon that has x1.5 that day, and do another one that has a x1.5 the next day, and cycle.

There was a time in the game when I sort of did that, and it sort of worked. But at this point it's extremely rare that I have a day when I'm not doing something, and when I do I'm pretty much obligated to do Legendary Seaway futiley trying to skill up Beyzul. I've maybe done two runs of Jupiter, City In The Sky in the last month trying to burn off stamina or rank up or something. If you have a tight schedule anyway it's extraordinarily time consuming.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #93 on: December 19, 2014, 01:51:37 PM »
You can get a shitload of topalits from the current Christmas dungeon :V

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #94 on: December 19, 2014, 01:56:33 PM »
You can get a shitload of topalits from the current Christmas dungeon :V

I've been running the Christmas dungeon pretty consistently since it went up and I've dropped two of them. I haven't been dropping very many 'Lits of any kind actually, mostly just Pengdras. Since it only has five floors where they can drop for 40-50 stamina and a non-100% droprate even on Superblessed, and an average-or-better spread of different monsters that can appear the droprates on them don't seem amazing. Certainly better than just about anywhere else, but nowhere near enough to even crack the 18 Awakenings I was hoping to take care of going into Tamadra Village.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #95 on: December 19, 2014, 02:18:00 PM »
Where on Earth are you getting surplus Topalits? Even without baby Tamadra concerns I'm four short, and I spent a moderate amount of time hunting for them. They are notoriously not easy to get, especially in multiples.
Like I said, you're farming also for evo mats. T6 Light dungeon. I dunno if it's you, but I certainly get a lot of them. They drop most of the time if they ever appear. I only run T6 whenever I need King Gold Dragons, as opposed to King Metal Dragons. Since King Gold is rarer, and I mostly need more now, I usually do T6. If I want rank up rush, or King Metal Dragons, I do T5. The evo mats are practically extra.

I only ever farm evo mats in their respective dungeons, if I'm in a rush to evo something. In my current case, I don't have any monsters that I'm particularly rushing, since I'm just leveling up most of them to max first, which along the way, I get some evo mats.

The only evo mats I actually ever farm in their respective dungeons is the lower evo mats. Eg, lits, dragon seeds, plants, masks, etc. And ofc Keepers, since that's the only weekly dungeon that has them.

Maybe the reason why I have a ton of evo mats is because I already evo'd most of my monsters. The only monsters left are the ones I'm gonna use as awakening fodders for my main monsters. Eg. some of the Healer Girls.
There was a time in the game when I sort of did that, and it sort of worked. But at this point it's extremely rare that I have a day when I'm not doing something, and when I do I'm pretty much obligated to do Legendary Seaway futiley trying to skill up Beyzul. I've maybe done two runs of Jupiter, City In The Sky in the last month trying to burn off stamina or rank up or something. If you have a tight schedule anyway it's extraordinarily time consuming.
Well I could agree with you on this one. Ever since the whole 1 stamina per 5 mins update, I'm often seeing myself having full stamina bars. Which most of the time, has been filled up by mins or hours ago. It's not that I can't calculate when's the stamina's gonna get full.  And I'm not saying to have them bring back ol' 1 sta/10 mins, I like the new one, thank you very much. It's just that at some times I tend to get busy doing stuff, that I can't actually play. Which means, I couldn't optimize my stamina very well. Back then I was able to optimize it better.

Sometimes before I do something which will occupy me hours to do, I just do a dungeon(mostly a special dungeon that hasn't been stoned yet) that has high sta. cost, just so I wouldn't waste stamina. Even if I want to farm, usually it takes 3-5 mins to finish a farmable dungeon. And assuming you have a lot of stamina, doing a low-stamina cost dungeon, and with the new 1 sta/5 min, it'll take a lot of runs so you could atleast optimize your stamina, just before you'd do something important, so while doing that, your stamina bar refills. Which is srz, hectic.

Edit: Typo :derp:
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #96 on: December 19, 2014, 02:18:28 PM »
*try to sneak away unnoticed along with his 4 out of 6 awakening using baby tamadra.....*  :derp:

Rolled for the first time the Christmas Rem = chibi Kirin

not sure where i could use her but still cute (if i ever drop regular Meimei or Haku - welp, Leilan too but she is lower in priority - i'm gonna bounce off the walls like a madman  :V)
« Last Edit: December 19, 2014, 02:21:03 PM by Espadas »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #97 on: December 19, 2014, 02:22:31 PM »
I thought they had to have ults first.

You sure? I thought it was just "last currently available form" instead of "ultimate".

'Course, I never actually tried it so :derp:

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #98 on: December 19, 2014, 02:32:08 PM »
nope it HAS to be an ultimate

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #99 on: December 19, 2014, 03:19:09 PM »
You sure? I thought it was just "last currently available form" instead of "ultimate".

'Course, I never actually tried it so :derp:


Should I merge my 4 leilans? I can't see a reason to keep more than one. Especially since I have a third big one.
If I were you, I'd keep the dupe chibis for low-cost subs. I mean, they're probably the few low-cost monsters that can full-board orb change.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #100 on: December 19, 2014, 04:11:55 PM »

If I were you, I'd keep the dupe chibis for low-cost subs. I mean, they're probably the few low-cost monsters that can full-board orb change.

Don't people often use spirit orbs and trifruits for precisely that on low-cost teams? The stats are much worse obviously, but the cost is even lower.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #101 on: December 19, 2014, 04:38:00 PM »


Finally. Failed once on the penguins, once on the fairy, then finally no stoned this and got the ship girl.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #102 on: December 19, 2014, 05:14:01 PM »
Don't people often use spirit orbs and trifruits for precisely that on low-cost teams? The stats are much worse obviously, but the cost is even lower.
Yea..still, better stats. :derp:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #103 on: December 19, 2014, 05:38:24 PM »
Christmas Yoloroll = Minihaku

Meh, wanted a valk to replace the valk I already have in my healer team but I guessy ou take what you can get :derp:

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #104 on: December 19, 2014, 06:19:08 PM »
shit it's blue gala now RIP the dream

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #105 on: December 19, 2014, 06:42:21 PM »


heck yeah  8)

EDIT: Just so it's out there, I'm pretty sure the dungeon was unusually lenient on that run:

Wave 1: dublit + chimera
Wave 2: three pengdra, two synced; not lethal but killed one of the synced ones first because yes
Wave 3: dublit + chimera + pengdra, all unsynced
Wave 4: pixie + two synced pengdra; popped Cleopatra and stalled for her again
Wave 5: three pengdra, two synced

The rest was simple. Did have enough HP to tank one treant hit if needed, but it didn't come up.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #106 on: December 19, 2014, 08:14:23 PM »
You might think it's time consuming, but it's really not. If you already have max most of your main monsters, you probably have other monsters that aren't even leveled yet. There are days when you don't want to do some Special Dungeon, or can't. Instead, the only thing you can do to optimize your stamina is to farm at a Normal Tier 5 - 6 Dungeon that has x1.5 rate.

This is extremely subjective, and I would know because I did use to do this  for a month of two, and even now I think it's extremely time consuming compared to other things I could be doing with my stamina. (Collecting stones for Verdandi, Py hunting, Present Egg hunting, Skillup hunting) I don't have five slots to waste per baby, because those slots are needed for other things (I actually try to keep 30+ open at all times for alt dungeon looping, it's pretty much required for max efficiency.)

I myself have two tamas in reserve, but there's also the consideration that some of us run multiple teams (I think I have about 4 or so in progress? and I haven't spent a cent on this game) and with row/skillboost/tpa being vastly important, the teams are horribly less effective if there aren't enough tamas. It's just a really frustrating thing in general and requires you to be luckier than succeeding at the coinflip chance to awaken on the baby.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #107 on: December 19, 2014, 08:58:24 PM »
I'd like to add to the baby tama discussion that you can really get RNG screwed on the topalit drops and it doesn't feel worth it.

With Friday dungeon master being slightly better than 1/3 drop, let's say 40%, you're using 62.5 stamina on average to get that topalit.  Then you have to run Thursday probably twice, so that's 20.  That's 82.5 stamina per baby tama, which is half of my bar and a little more than 1/4 of the daily amount.   This process can take months.

I think it's far better to just know you're going to blow as many stones as possible to run that tama village in the hour it's up.  Especially since you only need tamas occasionally but for many monsters their awakenings are the draws, so it's the quickest, most painless way to getting that new thing you need.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #108 on: December 19, 2014, 09:00:07 PM »
i'm just gonna wait for stamina overflow :derp:

also remember when the only way to get tamadra was this :V
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #109 on: December 20, 2014, 02:01:45 AM »
it's antonio time


gungho what the fuck

why is this not in pad WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME


antonio 0 stoned master so tamadra get for all

meanwhile I 0 stoned Legend BV
« Last Edit: December 20, 2014, 02:53:57 AM by Suikama »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #110 on: December 20, 2014, 03:36:59 AM »
This is extremely subjective, and I would know because I did use to do this  for a month of two, and even now I think it's extremely time consuming compared to other things I could be doing with my stamina. (Collecting stones for Verdandi, Py hunting, Present Egg hunting, Skillup hunting) I don't have five slots to waste per baby, because those slots are needed for other things (I actually try to keep 30+ open at all times for alt dungeon looping, it's pretty much required for max efficiency.)

I myself have two tamas in reserve, but there's also the consideration that some of us run multiple teams (I think I have about 4 or so in progress? and I haven't spent a cent on this game) and with row/skillboost/tpa being vastly important, the teams are horribly less effective if there aren't enough tamas. It's just a really frustrating thing in general and requires you to be luckier than succeeding at the coinflip chance to awaken on the baby.
You're doing this not on a rush. You need to draw a fine line between, when you need it, and do you need it now?
The reason I was effectively awakening monsters with the "awaken a monster with the same monster", was 'cause I wasn't in a rush.
I'd like to add to the baby tama discussion that you can really get RNG screwed on the topalit drops and it doesn't feel worth it.

With Friday dungeon master being slightly better than 1/3 drop, let's say 40%, you're using 62.5 stamina on average to get that topalit.  Then you have to run Thursday probably twice, so that's 20.  That's 82.5 stamina per baby tama, which is half of my bar and a little more than 1/4 of the daily amount.   This process can take months.

I think it's far better to just know you're going to blow as many stones as possible to run that tama village in the hour it's up.  Especially since you only need tamas occasionally but for many monsters their awakenings are the draws, so it's the quickest, most painless way to getting that new thing you need.
I didn't say to run Friday Dungeon. And I didn't say to run the T6 dungeon on a rush.

The reason why this is effective is because you're "not rushing". You're stockpiling while ranking up.

You only do T5 - T6 when you don't/can't do special dungeons or no special dungeons that you want are available. I mean seriously, what else are you gonna do with your full stamina bar when you have nothing else to spend it on? Ofc, the normal T5 - T6 are the next best thing, which is to rank up. Sure you could do Starlight Sanctuary, but seriously compare it to the "extras" you'll be getting on T5 and lower T6 instead.
The evo mats are practically extra.
Why I have tons of evo mats 'cause:
1. Ever since I started playing, I never threw out/sell/waste evo mats I got from normal dungeons. I just stockpile them.
2. I always buy a lot of boxes, around twice more than my current rank.
3. Ever since I started farming rank exp on T5 and T6, I have stockpiled loads of evo mats, even though I have few monsters back then that needs evo'ing.
4. Thanks to the stockpiled evo mats, the latter monsters I got that needs evo'ing are easier to evo since I already have the materials.
5. Now that I already evo'd most of them, even the extras, I'm still accumulating evo mats whenever I decide to do T5 - T6 dungeons. Which is if I don't have any particular special dungeon to do that day.
6. To decide which Tier dungeon I'd go, I decide first which King Dragon I need more. King Metal Dragon or King Gold Dragon, in their respective tier. Currently, I usually go to Tier 6, since I need King Gold Dragon more.
6b. I also decide which, if there's a monster(s) that needs leveling to final evo(not ult)/evo with awakenings.
7. The only evo mats I farm on their respective weekly dungeons are the lower evo mats. Eg. Evo masks, Dragon Seeds/Plants, etc, and ofc Keepers.
8. I only ever farm a respective weekly dungeon for evo mats if I'm in a rush to evo something.
9. The only time I would ever throw/sell/feed evo mats is if exceeds 20-30 for an evo mat that's easy to get(eg. Divine Masks/Most of the Keepers/Seeds/Plants). Fruits, Mystic Mask, KoR, etc. I stockpile them.
10. In a level-up rush, the extra Dragon Fruits/KoRs/M.Masks/Dub-Mythlits comes in handy. Giving 7500/15000/15000/15000 on same-color respectively.

Ideally, back then during the 1 sta/10 min era, I was able to optimize this well.
Right now, this still works, but ofc, my stamina isn't as optimized as back then since I'm fairly busy. I usually find myself having full stamina after a few hours or so.

Edit: It's something I learned here. Which I improved a bit for stamina efficiency.
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=38670

Edit2:
Think about it this way. If you already have stockpiled evo mats for Baby Tamas even before you farmed for them. And did the Tama dungeon. Get a lot of Baby Tamas. Did the evo on Tama. Awoken a lot of your monsters. You're pretty much set for a long time. You won't have to think of doing Tama dungeon again, since you already awoken most of the monsters you want. Assuming you get an avg of 2-3 monsters per month that are suitable subs/leaders with awakenings. Again, there are times you'll be doing T5s-T6s since you can't do anything else.  Basically, you stockpile again. Do the Tama Dungeon when you are at the edge of your comfort zone, that feels there's monsters you have that needs awakenings. Evolved them, and feed. It's a cycle.

The name of the game is farming. Which is true for late-game. Ofc it'll take months. It isn't farming if it takes a little time to achieve.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2014, 03:56:40 AM by En »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #111 on: December 20, 2014, 03:49:47 AM »
Omg I don't know how I pulled it off but I got my first Chinese God from the Christmas Machine.

Mini Sakuya get!  *fist pump*
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« Reply #112 on: December 20, 2014, 03:56:34 AM »
Finally finished Endless Corridors. Probably wouldn've been easier if I didn't bring a stall team, but I did because that's what I got. The Hera fight was a grind, and when I bursted Zeus I got a slightly sub-optimal combo that brought him down to like 10% health. I don't know for sure, but I think I just beat him by thousands of HP. Would have been a lot less close if I had got into his floor with 50 more HP, but after I activated Beyzul I was a hair under full health so I had to waste one of my 2x attack Sun Quan bonus turns autohealing back up. It's nice to know that my burst does close to 5 million damage even under less-than-ideal conditions though. That's basically enough for anything.
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« Reply #113 on: December 20, 2014, 04:03:47 AM »
rip mr s

the devils were too much for him and his stones


oh we're getting king devi tama though tomorrow


Hera-Is is coming... i need 3 water jewels for this <_<


also no mention of knights <___<
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #114 on: December 20, 2014, 04:20:48 AM »
Some of your Tamadra problems are solved.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #115 on: December 20, 2014, 04:25:58 AM »
it's this

i hope you like troll chibidras

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #116 on: December 20, 2014, 04:29:12 AM »
chibi leilan
chibi karin
chibi kirin

fucking christmas rem

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« Reply #117 on: December 20, 2014, 04:30:06 AM »
it's this

i hope you like troll chibidras
22500 exp isn't bad. :derp:

And I think we get 4k Pal Pts, 1 Magic Stone and a Tamadra from the stream.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #118 on: December 20, 2014, 04:30:47 AM »
fuck it again

chibi meimei

...i have all of them i guess



merry christmas >___>
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
« Reply #119 on: December 20, 2014, 04:36:04 AM »
22500 exp isn't bad. :derp:

Yes it is, when you can get 30000 exp pengdras from the christmas dungeon for less stamina :V

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And I think we get 4k Pal Pts, 1 Magic Stone and a Tamadra from the stream.

Yep.

And in addition:
We'll be getting a King DeviTAMA in our inboxes at some point
Gungho Collab revamp incoming
Tamadra Guerilla starting tomorrow
Hera-Is ult Coming Soon (TM)