Author Topic: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: GAME OVER, ROLES WIN! (Read 97886 times)

Kitten4u · « **Reply #270 on:** June 04, 2011, 06:09:47 AM »

Hm...Okay then. I haven't lurked on MS for quite some time. I suppose playing it safe is smarter then.

Schezo · « **Reply #271 on:** June 04, 2011, 06:10:04 AM »

Half in the form of a loaded question, sounds fair, I'll take that. ...Oh, that. I still don't know, guess I didn't learn optimal play when you are vigged from that game.

When did I claim to bring people back from the dead? Morale to play anymore when I've said basically all I would anyway and and I'm not adding shit as I go along. Read my claim, read what I said. Sigh.

Pesco · « **Reply #272 on:** June 04, 2011, 06:42:08 AM »

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PX (0)
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Shadoweh (0)
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Not Voting (12): Edible, Dormio, Affinity, Schezo, ActionDan, Capt. h, Shadoweh, LLD, Omba, Zakeri

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch
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PX · « **Reply #273 on:** June 04, 2011, 06:43:51 AM »

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Schezo (3) Kitten4u, PX

... :V

PX · « **Reply #274 on:** June 04, 2011, 06:44:40 AM »

Ignore last post, stupid little mod errors

Schezo · « **Reply #275 on:** June 04, 2011, 06:54:02 AM »

And I think you people placing blame on me for withholding a bunch of flavor and then saying I later add stuff to my claim is silly since this rule:

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14) The flavor, it means NOTHING!

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Would like to have a word with you.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #276 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:01:10 AM »

I'm 12 years old and what is this?

Okay, first things first, my view on capt. h hasn't changed and I think that he's horrible.
Let's move on from that.

Re: Schezo,
Oh god this is like a trainwreck. I can't look away. Must stare at pretty fire.
Anyway. So, uh, Schezo. Doctor and Governor look like the same thing to you? Wat?
This makes me wonder if the whole claim and counter-claim business was actually an attempt to earn town cred for whoever survived the ordeal.
I mean, Schezo stated himself "I find it unbelievable that town would have both my power and his at their disposal".
And is it just me or does Schezo's claimed character and power not match up?
Because Killer Queen blows shit up and makes people think that his victims are missing, and has none of that repeating stuff going on.

##Vote Schezo

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #277 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:05:53 AM »

To add to the role thing, Bite The Dust doesn't protect anyone, it's a delayed kill.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #278 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:07:05 AM »

JBA-Wise, anyway.
In other words, I don't believe the claim.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #279 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:18:39 AM »

Of course heaven forbid I be able to FIND the game. LLD should know what I'm talking about, and was in it, so I'd appreciate if she links the game when she comes by. The Choose your side one where you got exploded for buying too much from Parama.

I'm so glad you're here to jump on the bandwagon Dormio! That's cool and I'mma let you finished but these are questions and you should answer them.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #280 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:29:36 AM »

Right-O!
I, uh, completely forgot that post existed whilst searching JBA wiki.
Ragetunnelopolis wat?

Good things by capt. h? I dunno. Why are you asking me when I think he doesn't look good? Ask capt. h that kind of question.

If capt. h were to magically disappear? Schezo because I think he's lying. Blehdibleh because... Wait, he's in this game?
Don't have another for now.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #281 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:33:32 AM »

Speaking of unmemorable people, it's hard to remember that Affinity is in this game as well.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #282 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:51:34 AM »

It sure would be nice if LSD and Affinity posted more.
Anyway, let's attempt to say more about Bledibleh before my brain shorts out!

Re: Bledibleh,
In #194, he responds to me by saying that he's also given opinions on Dan, Shadoweh, Zakeri, and capt. h.
Yet he really hasn't said much about the latter three.
In #139 he mentions Shadoweh and capt. h, saying that Shadoweh seems more non-contributive than usual and that capt. h seems like a mislynch.
He hasn't really said anything more about Shadoweh and capt. h since.
He briefly mentions Shadoweh in #147 and says she needs a reread in #194. Guess I need to wait on that.
He mentions capt. h in #237 with a fence-sit on his roleclaim.
He mentions Zakeri in #117 as giving off good vibes and again in #194 saying that he needs a reread. Guess I need to wait on that too.

... I was not fast enough.
Going to go derp it up somewhere else.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #283 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:53:42 AM »

Might as well start some alternate conversation then.

##Vote Dormio

Rageopolis, as in it looked like you were using your one true case to stop from making opinions on anyone else. Kind of like right now. You're shipping scum/scum wagons too now? I asked you to find one good thing because even for the worst player it is impossible that every single thing they do sounds bad. Not one? You can't see one little shred of evidence that could make you doubt your read on capt.h for an instant? Are you really -that- sure about yourself or are you just worried about having to, heaven forbid, sound like you might not think he's scum?

So your other options are because 'I forgot'. That's cool. There's this button called show posts, you can use it to read all of Affinity's and Edible's posts, then follow it up by telling us what you think of their points, if you think they're scummy or not, and then if you don't go find some more suspects! OPINIONS. YOU NEED TO HAVE THEM. NOW. Cut by a start. You better finish that line of thought soon Dormy.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #284 on:** June 04, 2011, 07:55:52 AM »

Also, I win. TAKE THAT IMPOSSIBLE TO READ THROUGH SITE!
Choose Your Side! Now with murder!

Lexicat · « **Reply #285 on:** June 04, 2011, 11:53:38 AM »

Bad Shadoweh, bad. ;_;

There are some very distinct differences between a CYS and this game. Exoeciallu THAT CYS.

Oh, and I'm glad K4U did that fake kill Gambit. Very good.

##Vote: Schezo

When he flips scum, capt.h is next, yah?

Oh, and if he and Capt.h flip scum, Dormio is town >.<.

Sad, but true.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #286 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:02:07 PM »

I don't care about the choosing part, just the point structure.

Maybe. I hope that's not all you dropped in to say. Why is capt.h scum if Schezo is scum again? Cause some guy seemed to disagree with your methods. Think you can make a case on someone that wasn't attacking you lately? I don't believe in if = then scenarios. I will wagon all three of them if I feel like it.

Lexicat · « **Reply #287 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:05:09 PM »

Though, if they flip town it would have no real relation on Dormio's alignment....

Hmmmm.....

@Edible: You gonna comment on anything here?

@Capt.h: What is your read on Schezo and on Dormio?

Final Note: I think that scum are going to gain their kill every 72 hours OR after a lynch. So... I think we should be looking into lynching before another 72 hours go around. That's something I could see happening.

Lexicat · « **Reply #288 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:05:49 PM »

ITT Shadoweh doesnt believe in general mafia interaction theory.

Kay.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #289 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:09:10 PM »

Logic only works on those who are sane.

When you're done answering that earlier question you could explain to my theory-disbelieving mind why you'd read it like that.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #290 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:22:59 PM »

Oh yeah one other question.

Quote from: Lady Lambdadelta on June 04, 2011, 12:05:09 PM

Final Note: I think that scum are going to gain their kill every 72 hours OR after a lynch. So... I think we should be looking into lynching before another 72 hours go around. That's something I could see happening.

Why did it take you so long to mention this? You were the one actually in the game, didn't it occur to you earlier the scum kill might work like this?

Omba · « **Reply #291 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:51:59 PM »

Quote from: Kitten4u on June 04, 2011, 05:55:51 AM

I'm not entirely convinced that lynching will give scum an immediate NK since they get one after 72 hours even if we don't lynch. I suppose it just depends if we want to play it safe or if we want to take a chance and try to get two lynches before the next 72 hour mark.

Are all you guys fucking kidding me? No one even thinks of the possibility that maybe that wasn't a scum "night" kill, but a vig shot, serial killer, scum bonus kill or whatever else that just needs 3 days till it's ready, like the ability capt. h claimed? Even though we haven't even seen yet what happens after a lynch? ... :colonveeplusalpha:
It's entirely possible scum gain a kill every 4, 5, 6, ... game days, every lynch, some combination thereof or yet something else.

Anyway.

##Vote: Schezo

No last minute comments? Why yes, that's totally what a townie would do. :V
I guess it's not optimal play for scum, either, but giving your opinion should be damn obvious for any townie. Only scum would have a reason not to say anything (i.e. not saying anything to be analyzed by town).
Even if you hadn't been vigged before, you have at least been lynched once, right? And every game, you've seen lots of people getting lynched. So you certainly do know what to do when you're about to die.
Hell, last game you WERE lynched and you DID throw some opinions at town before you died. And you were town in that game.

Pesco · « **Reply #292 on:** June 04, 2011, 01:02:01 PM »

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Not Voting (12): Edible, Affinity, Schezo, ActionDan, Capt. h, Omba, Zakeri

Schezo is at L-2
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch
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Kitten4u · « **Reply #293 on:** June 04, 2011, 01:08:56 PM »

##Unvote

Yeah guys, I get that he's scum but we don't need to be putting him in a position where he can self-hammer. :V Real comments will come once I'm actually able to sleep.

Quote from: Omba

No one even thinks of the possibility that maybe that wasn't a scum "night" kill, but a vig shot, serial killer, scum bonus kill or whatever else that just needs 3 days till it's ready, like the ability capt. h claimed?

I suppose it's possible. I doubt the kill was motivated by anything but anti-town action though. Schezo's reaction to my claim (believing it) makes me think that it had something to do with the mafia too.

capt. h · « **Reply #294 on:** June 04, 2011, 01:14:54 PM »

Quote from: Lady Lambdadelta on June 04, 2011, 12:05:09 PM

@Capt.h: What is your read on Schezo and on Dormio?

I found Schezo scummy and Dormio suspicious yesterday, and nothing they have done have changed my reads on them. I'd vote Schezo, but that would put him at L-2.

I have job-required volunteer work that all day today, so I won't be able to answer too many questions until tonight.

Schezo · « **Reply #295 on:** June 04, 2011, 03:33:08 PM »

*Throws hands up and stares at Dormio in disbelief*
What did I just say about flavor? I got a PM, I know nothing about this flavor so I'm reading that as what UK gave me. That's what I do! What are you looking for serial killer?! Vig?! I don't do that!

I would post about people but you all seem to have made up your minds already and LLD still gets away with tunneling 1 person a day and already making scum pairs. I also did make comments about all the stuff I thought already and all the info I was going to put out since I was a candidate for lynch yesterday, the only thing I could add extra was Serp's death but lol kill speculations and I'm frustrated you all are holding it over me I'm not sharing info and reads with you.

Lexicat · « **Reply #296 on:** June 04, 2011, 04:27:56 PM »

Quote from: Schezo on June 04, 2011, 03:33:08 PM

*Throws hands up and stares at Dormio in disbelief*
What did I just say about flavor? I got a PM, I know nothing about this flavor so I'm reading that as what UK gave me. That's what I do! What are you looking for serial killer?! Vig?! I don't do that!

I would post about people but you all seem to have made up your minds already and LLD still gets away with tunneling 1 person a day and already making scum pairs. I also did make comments about all the stuff I thought already and all the info I was going to put out since I was a candidate for lynch yesterday, the only thing I could add extra was Serp's death but lol kill speculations and I'm frustrated you all are holding it over me I'm not sharing info and reads with you.

That's... a fucking horrible defense.

"I'M MAD THAT YOU GUYS WON'T LISTEN TO ME, SO I WON'T BE GIVING YOU ANY REASONS, INFO OR READS BEFORE MY DEATH."

How anti town can you get? >.<

Affinity · « **Reply #297 on:** June 04, 2011, 06:43:06 PM »

We certainly do need a flip of some sort, and given K4U's gambit and all that pretend scumhunting he attempted (as me and others have raised), I'm pretty much okay with lynching him too. I would prefer it if the lynch happened sooner rather than later though, given the nightless setup.

I don't like capt.h's dropping of Omha's case, given that between here and here. Omha and Schezo did not say anything. As I raised earlier, there are other oddities like capt.h seeming to agree with Omba's case and yet called it strange anyway, and calling Schezo out on 'misrepresenting him' regarding backtracking' and voting him because of that when Serp, me Omha and Schezo did not say anything. As I raised earlier, there are other oddities like capt.h seeming to agree with Omba's case and yet called it strange anyway, and calling Schezo out on 'misrepresenting him' regarding backtracking' and voting him because of that when Serp, me and others have all accused him of the same thing regarding Omba. Other similarities include both pounding on Omha and dropping her bad reasons. I usually don't entertain pairing people before flips, but their relations are far too obvious. Seeing that capt.h has been pretty much sitting back and passively giving terse answers lately after his claim, I would like him to answer the above (but I doubt that it would do any good).

If Schezo flips scum, than capt.h should be lynched immediately in my opinion. It seems too much of a bus attempt on top of the individually scummy things they have done so far, which is why I want Schezo's flip as soon as possible. So yeah.

##Vote: Schezo

Things on other people will come later.

I think I fixed the tags?

ActionDan · « **Reply #298 on:** June 04, 2011, 09:39:02 PM »

The line between derp-town and derp-Obvscum appears to be paper thin. Irregardless, Schezo has crossed it. Usually I am not a fan of entrapment (as it more than not produces garbage that reads null), but Schezo's recent production and lastest post tells enough:

Quote from: Schezo on June 04, 2011, 03:33:08 PM

*Throws hands up and stares at Dormio in disbelief*
What did I just say about flavor? I got a PM, I know nothing about this flavor so I'm reading that as what UK gave me. That's what I do! What are you looking for serial killer?! Vig?! I don't do that!

I would post about people but you all seem to have made up your minds already and LLD still gets away with tunneling 1 person a day and already making scum pairs. I also did make comments about all the stuff I thought already and all the info I was going to put out since I was a candidate for lynch yesterday, the only thing I could add extra was Serp's death but lol kill speculations and I'm frustrated you all are holding it over me I'm not sharing info and reads with you.

The second bolded part reads: "I'm caught scum, and I don't give a beaver's dam about this game anymore"

The first bolded part reads: "Whatever happens, me and Capt.h can't be a scum pair, and therefore LLD is wrong" the bolded part is what I think Schezo was trying to get town to believe. As you guys know, I suck at detecting Scumslips, so I would prefer to not speculate with associations just yet until we have at least a flip

Schezo should be town's next lynch.

Things about ze other people.

LLD:

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Schezo's vote for me, then subsequent claim that "he still wanted capt.h dead" reads like he was still trying to bus his partner, but he was hoping to get a town mislynch (me) first today, and then continue his bus of capt.h tomorrow.

People pushing a wagon on me because I am "lurking scum" are gaining +1 scum points, just for the fact that it's TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE that scum would come out day 1 like I have, draw attention to them selves... and then try to lurk2victory IN THE SAME DAY. Yeah, no, that's not even thinkable. That's scum logic at its best.

I find it strange that you are indignant because you thought you even had a chance to get mislynched or had any kind of wagon. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can tell, you were never in danger of being a lynch, and you only had 1-2 votes on you at a time? The "Woe is me" feeling I get from you feels like WIFOM from which you use to spring cases. I think it's scummy, espcially when you justify what could be construed as scummy behavior as unthinkable because of other circumstances, which is more WIFOM (i.e. "I claimed miller, I got attention, scum don't do that") .

Quote from: Black Widow Spider

Also, your comment on capt.h's claim is weird. How is Governor who makes someone immune to being lynched forever sound like vanilla townie to you? Do you believe the claim or not?

Question: When would Capt. h. ever want to actually use this power as town. ever. and why would he ever want to use this without town's knowledge. These are the boggling questions I can't answer. Lynching is the only collective town power we have. The only way I would have treated this power would be to claim it outright ED1. If capt.h is town-aligned, he might still be hiding something from us, but I think that it is the more likely case that Capt.h's claim is true, only that Capt. h is scum aligned... Or... thrid party? a possibility I just thought of.

I'd like to add more on Shadoweh but I'm out of time atm.
More later unfortunately.... THE MENACES OF LIFE AT HOME@@@@@@

Kitten4u · « **Reply #299 on:** June 04, 2011, 10:36:38 PM »

Governor is a fairly standard role. Serp was a town governor in DtB and Sakana (I think) was a town governor in Haruhi Mafia. While I have never seen one, scum governors do exist as well, so after his clarification the role itself is completely null imo. The nature of how he claimed it however; the when, the why and the how, strikes me as town still. I also doubt that capth and Schezo are scum together. I'm not making the mistake of thinking scum/scum D1 wagons are possible again. :V

As for my gambit, I DID give him a chance. If anything I feel like I was being too generous. If I had waited any longer or used different words I was afraid he'd call me on my bluff. Sure, I'll buy that my initial shot and the third post had loaded questions, but I still feel like the second post was perfectly fair.

I'm at a party right now, but I'm anti-social enough that I'm going to start my read now. I make no promises on when I'll get it done though. Silly family obligations and all that.