Sorry guys for not posting sooner, I blame my country's internal affairs department. I have been following the thread though, so I made a case last night that still carries over to today.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, it's on Shadoweh.
My early posts mainly wanted town to consider and resolve one issue:
We have the option to lynch people not directly in the game, and I was wondering if anybody was actually going to consider that seriously as I did (this line of argument made sense at the time). As a serious option to secure a "lynch" without voting for a player at the end of the day, I was also looking out for reactions to the idea.
Furthermore, I don't think it's a bad option at all.
What does town think of this? Especially Shadoweh, since you have expressed interest in a no lynch scenario.
I am not familiar with nightless setups (having only played 2 forum mafia games on this site), so I wanted 2nd opinions. And happily enough, I got them:
As for lynching someone not in the game I think it's a bad idea. UK's description of the game doesn't suggest that level of bastardlyness.
And to answer your question related to that, Dan, no I don't think we should lynch in 24 hours. I imagine we don't want to take too long either, but shortening the time between lynches that much will garner us paniced mislynches and happy scum kills. I'm rather partial to my three day cycles.
These are perfectly reasonable opinions, and other townies have since agreed. So a majority if not all of the town have agreed that A) we should not quick lynch a player not playing the game (because apparently in nightless setups a townie lynch immediately gives scum a kill [I wasn't even thinking in these terms at all :ohdear:, but now I know]) and B) try to give 48-72 time intervals for discussion before a lynch on our playerbase (in order not to take too much time). That has now been settled. Hooray! This is what I wanted to establish in the RVS stage.
Now, some of you voted me because me suggesting a quick lynch would mean a scum kill as well, which from a Townie's perspective is undeniably bad . Let me point out that Shadoweh, although the first to attack and vote for me, did not mention this at all before Omba did.
In fact Shadoweh voted for me for not voting Kitten when I found her post to be scummy.
I can't tell, are you accusing Kitten of attacking you? It looks kinda like that, it it's missing a vote to go with it. See, like this:
##Vote: Action Dan
Actually, it's not even phrased correctly like, "I can't tell, are you accusing Kitten of being scummy?" Does that mean that Shadoweh also thinks K4U attacking me was scummy? It's simply not as clear as it could be. Clearly Kitten attacked me, and I was the one to fill in the gap.
Shadoweh, I keep thinking of the Game Day ending as a Pseudo-deadline. I am not accusing Kitten4u of attacking me, she did so, and she freely admits to such. That much is obvious. What I pointed out was that the way she went about it, did not strike me as above-board. Hence our spat, which tried to infur what the other was thinking.
Shadoweh, do I need to vote someone for that to "count"? And is this the sole reason you are voting me as well, for you see, it kinda looks like it .
The second I call her out on it, she proceeds to proceeds to be reactionary much more so than I was, even referencing
OMGUS. Still no where does she say that my suggestion is scummy, but instead misreps me by doctoring my intentions.
Take a look at Omba's
#65. This is the first time it is mentioned that lynching someone out of the game in a fast time period will give scum a kill.
4 minutes later Shadoweh exclaims that Omba's explaination of why it is bad to quicklynch a non-player was her reason for thinking me scummy. Yet that was never mentioned directly beforehand, only that I sounded "weird." About Kitten: after our spat, I believe that she is a townie trying to understand and answer my concerns. It's unforunate I never directly stated this, but certainly it should have been obvious at the time that I thought Shadoweh was scummier and still do now (and still think K4U is town).
##Vote: ShadowehAs for our other townies: I think Omba is more than not town. This is result from clear and town like opinions and stances. LLD/Dormio. Gut says that this is a turkey shoot for scum (and I am examining those who attack one or the other). I don't think it's in town's best interest to lynch one of these. If I had to choose however, I'd choose Dorimo as the scum. Why? because while a townie can look at a miller claim and go, "that's odd," who would actually say "HEY WHAT's UP WITH THAT?" and vote immediately? (Unless you all are going to just tell me, "THAT'S OUR DURRRMIO!" BV)
My other immediate interest is capt.h (as a likely scum). I am going to reread him though to flesh out a better case.
