Author Topic: Mafia Rule Mafia - Postgame, Town Win (Read 103702 times)

Shadoweh · « **Reply #120 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:14:48 AM »

I'm going to reply to everything else once I've been awake for more then five minutes but since someone pointed out I'm a moron with syntax and forgot to unvote earlier I'm going to correct that now.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE Pesco
Be back soon!

Shadoweh · « **Reply #121 on:** February 28, 2011, 01:26:05 PM »

The nice thing about posting at 68am is there aren't 5 replies between every post. :yukkuri:

Doll: Yes vig mean vigilantly kill. No I am not asking someone to vig you. If you were vigged right now besides your flip I don't think anyone would notice the difference and this is the frustration I am expressing. K4U sums it up.

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I've read the past games with you in them and...Well I think you should actually like play the game this time.

We all just have feelings from posts to go on from Day 1. Try expressing your feeling and explaining them, like why Dormio reminds you of you since you brought it up twice. Your post #108 is much better then your other ones.

Schezo: On a scale of active lurking to not having posted in the game yet I think active lurking is worse right now. The longer the game goes on the further my opinion will swing in the other direction. See above for more about how I feel on Doll. About Conqueror, if it's not clear my second line: "Feel free to comment on the rest of the game too though." Was me asking him to comment on the more important argument that broke out afterwards instead of a post that added nothing. At this point he has and I haven't felt a need to bring him up again yet.
Let's comment on something you're doing that I don't like though. From post #104:

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You randomly don't think she's((Shadoweh)) scum because...what? Why does she get a clear, in your eyes? Then he comes up with the vote on Pesco, which is starting to form an opinion on people, but can we get some more of what you think of anyone else?

Why are you hunting for Town? We're looking for scum, not for who you think is the Townest and making people explain why they think people are Towner then the rest just sets up easy Nightkills.

PX: I'm attempting to tone down impoliteness in my posts. I should point out Dormio did say he was voting you for voting him afterwards, which is what OMGUS means if I'm not mistaken. The vote itself is still jokevote territory but him saying that was why after I asked will come up later.

Kittens4All: Good morning! I am aware of your posting habits and I understand why you don't post much on Day 1. I also understand posts taking so long because this has taken two hours so far. I don't want 'alot' but I do want more then once every two days.
I agree with all the points brought up and I'm waiting for Hourai before commenting further on him.

Pesco: I've already said why I thought your actions were scummy and I still feel that way. I feel the opposite about Dormio and PX as I'm not sure if Dormio has given an answer to anyone's questions that wasn't already provided in another post and that bothers me. I am currently waiting for Pesco's new waifu to post before getting further on or off his case.

The Waffles.. I'd guess Rule 7 since it's a vote that only breaks ties. I don't expect them to come forward and it's not me. I have more to say but this post is too long already so I'm going to get it out now.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #122 on:** February 28, 2011, 01:39:22 PM »

After giving it some thought I've come to the conclusion keeping the information my role gave me a secret isn't a good enough reason to withhold this from Town.

As part of my role I checked the edit history of MafiaRules.rtf (who uses wordpad seriously) and saw some of the game setup. Whenever someone dies a special effect is added to the day phase afterwards. The effect is specifically linked to the person lynched which is why I think it relates to the rules we represent.

PX · « **Reply #123 on:** February 28, 2011, 02:58:30 PM »

Got to go to school right now, will address things when I come back.

Edible · « **Reply #124 on:** February 28, 2011, 03:08:49 PM »

Quote from: Inaba Tewi on February 28, 2011, 08:53:34 AM

You guys can call it ignoring the accusation, but I consider any more arguing with Edible to be dead-ended. Nobody else wants to buy lynching him, so I might as well make him my waifu with my ability.

Which you're still not explaining. Care to do so, or can we just lynch you now and save us all some time?

I mean, using (or pretending to use) an ability and refusing to explain it despite multiple demands for you to do so is, well... not exactly what I would consider town activity.

Pesco · « **Reply #125 on:** February 28, 2011, 03:27:03 PM »

I already explained my reason, you just don't like it.

Your question about my ability had a :V after it. Since when do you expect me to take that as a serious asking? Other than that, most of the other players simply don't care.

Edible · « **Reply #126 on:** February 28, 2011, 03:32:03 PM »

Quote from: Inaba Tewi on February 28, 2011, 03:27:03 PM

Your question about my ability had a :V after it. Since when do you expect me to take that as a serious asking?

It says "seriously though" right before I asked the question. Are you doing this on purpose?

Let me put it another way. Explain your ability in full immediately.

Pesco · « **Reply #127 on:** February 28, 2011, 03:57:43 PM »

I make you my waifu. We get to spend our nights together. What happens to me will happen to you and vice versa.

Schezo · « **Reply #128 on:** February 28, 2011, 04:15:09 PM »

Shadoweh: ok now I really don't like how you are telling me I'm hunting town because I have a vote on someone I think is scum, even more so now because what I get from your post is that you want me to clear you for the same weak ass WIFOM reason that Dormio gave in his 118. I'm hunting town for wanting to see Dormios thought process, which isn't very good? I can't even see where you got that I'm hunting town because everyone I called out in that post was suspicious to me, so please explain that.

Edible · « **Reply #129 on:** February 28, 2011, 04:38:37 PM »

Quote from: Inaba Tewi on February 28, 2011, 03:57:43 PM

I make you my waifu. We get to spend our nights together. What happens to me will happen to you and vice versa.

I suggest that you help us find someone scummier than you, then, because I'd hate to file divorce paperwork so soon.

More than content to hang this rabbit, though I suppose due diligence requires me to at least consider other cases made recently. I'll get around to it.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #130 on:** February 28, 2011, 05:47:53 PM »

Schezo: Okay, I see what you mean and I retract my statement. I still don't think anyone is obligated to answer why they think someone is town. I have no opinion on whether you clear me or not since it's not stopping you from contributing.

That role sounds horrible and slightly like kidnapping. If it's real Tewi getting it is appropriate. Currently waiting for Edible's opinions on other cases now.

Edible · « **Reply #131 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:46:39 PM »

Dum dee doo.

Quote from: Bardiche on February 27, 2011, 10:48:41 PM

Should the day carry on without input from Polaris and/or Kitten, I would consider it more scummy.

It's around a day later and Polaris still hasn't showed up, and I can confirm he was online last night as he was playing trivia. Your thoughts now?

FWIW, while I agree with you that lynching a lurker day 1 isn't the best possible solution, I can think of far worse reasons to throw a D1 lynch at someone.

Other thoughts...

I haven't seen a single useful post all game from Doll. You are the very definition of active lurking and I wouldn't really mind you getting lynched today either.

@K4U: Lurking a bit is fine, but I think at least 1 good content-filled post per day (which you've more than managed with your previous post) is reasonable, if you aren't going to add snippets here and there. I suppose it helps that there's currently someone lurking more than you!

I don't agree with the PX wagon yet but it interests me enough that pesco switched to it. I'll take that into consideration if we wind up lynching our rabbit today.

Overall conclusion - Whatever pesco is doing today, it isn't very town-like. I can't think of a better lynch candidate. I will summarize my thought process and case on pesco later on should it become necessary, but it's fairly straightforward.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #132 on:** February 28, 2011, 08:28:52 PM »

Early Votecount
Pesco (4) - Edible, Dormio, PX, Shadoweh
Kitten4u (0) - Dormio, Conquerer
Hanged Hourai (1.5) - Doll.S, Kellogg's? Eggo? Waffles, Kitten4u
Dormio (1) - Schezo, PX, Pesco, Conqueror
Conqueror (0) - Hanged Hourai, PX, Bardiche
Edible (1) - Zakeri, Pesco
Zakeri (0) - Shadoweh
PX (2) - Dormio, Bardiche, Pesco
Shadoweh (2) - Schezo, Bardiche, Hanged Hourai
Not Voting: Polaris, Doll.S
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. There are currently ~28 hours left in the day.

As a warning, I may not be around very much today.

Doll.S CUBE · « **Reply #133 on:** February 28, 2011, 09:46:03 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on February 28, 2011, 01:26:05 PM

Doll: Yes vig mean vigilantly kill. No I am not asking someone to vig you. If you were vigged right now besides your flip I don't think anyone would notice the difference and this is the frustration I am expressing. K4U sums it up.We all just have feelings from posts to go on from Day 1. Try expressing your feeling and explaining them, like why Dormio reminds you of you since you brought it up twice. Your post #108 is much better then your other ones.

Well, Dormio reminds me of myself first game is because of the of the little opinion I had on the game, which I'm still apparently having

Also Pesco, what's with the vagueness of some of your posts?

Bardiche · « **Reply #134 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:06:50 PM »

@Edible: Clearly, lurking scum. We should lynch him immediately.

In all seriousness, I'd like to request the mod elucidate the situation with Polaris. Is he going to play, has he been prodded, will you replace or what? It's very annoying to have another lurker on our hands, especially considering it's a waste of town's lynch if we need to manually remove non-players.

Lynching lurkers on D1 is a strategy I'd only employ if there are no good alternatives.

My opinions have not needed much updating since this morning and now. Dormio's waffling and his stance is unclear, but it strikes me moreso as an unhelpful than scummy attitude. This may change in later days. Shadoweh is still manic, but I veer to misguided townie moreso than scum. It's his first game, yes? Newbie pass for now.

Ninja by Doll. Nothing I see there that I want to see in my town. Doll, are you going to pretend you're playing the game, or will you continue to play spectator? If you're trying not to be tied to any opinion by never presenting any goddamn opinion backed up by a commitment in the form of a vote, you are doing a rather pisspoor job of it. I had excused it as derptown for a while, but diagnosing your problem and then nonchalantly passing it off as something acceptable is veering into scummy territory.

It's NOT okay to be derp. So stop playing the derp card and start playing the game.

Bardiche · « **Reply #135 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:10:13 PM »

Apologies for the hostile attitude, but can you please understand that it is extremely vexing to play a game with people who make no effort to play?

Doll.S CUBE · « **Reply #136 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:12:47 PM »

;.; I'm trying, don't you see that question?

Bardiche · « **Reply #137 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:14:20 PM »

Yes, I see that question, and it's useless.

What part of Pesco's posts do you find vague?

Do you find this vagueness scummy, curious, townie?

If he answers you, and it is not the answer you can vote him for, you can simply go, "Oh, okay. :V" and we'd never know if you suspect him or not. Start throwing your suspicions on the table, or at least your opinions. An opinion is never wrong. Do you think Pesco's alleged vagueness is scummy, yes or no?

Doll.S CUBE · « **Reply #138 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:27:24 PM »

Quote from: Inaba Tewi on February 28, 2011, 03:57:43 PM

I make you my waifu. We get to spend our nights together. What happens to me will happen to you and vice versa.

This is what I found vague but now that I read it again, it maybe that he has the ability to form couples?

Edible · « **Reply #139 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:30:33 PM »

Bardiche · « **Reply #140 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:31:36 PM »

Quote from: Edible on February 28, 2011, 10:30:33 PM

Bardiche · « **Reply #141 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:32:41 PM »

ffffff thwarted.

Edible sums up my feelings accurately.

Doll, don't ask me what it is, I can only speculate. Form your own opinions from the given clues in the thread. I have, so should you. Asking someone to fill in the blanks is setting yourself up for scum manipulation.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #142 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:37:51 PM »

Quote from: Creator of Doll.S on February 28, 2011, 10:27:24 PM

it maybe that he has the ability to form couples?

Pesco said that his ability is to form a bond between him and someone else.
If one of them dies, so will the other.
Assuming that Pesco isn't lying, let me ask Pescar:
Why would you link yourself to Edible so early in the game?
Unless you have the ability to change your links, which I doubt that you do, it seems like a very scummy move.

Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #143 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:40:57 PM »

Quote from: Bardiche on February 28, 2011, 10:06:50 PM

In all seriousness, I'd like to request the mod elucidate the situation with Polaris. Is he going to play, has he been prodded, will you replace or what? It's very annoying to have another lurker on our hands, especially considering it's a waste of town's lynch if we need to manually remove non-players.

In hindsight, I probably made rule 12 way too easy on lurkers.
I'm going to prod him right now. If he fails to post within 12 hours of the prod, he will be replaced, since if Edible is to be trusted, I know he has at least had the time to play trivia.

Doll.S CUBE · « **Reply #144 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:52:31 PM »

I think I'll take a break now and then maybe I'll actually come back with something solid....

Darn, I thought I could do better this game....

Doll.S CUBE · « **Reply #145 on:** February 28, 2011, 11:30:40 PM »

I think I got something!

Re-reading through, Shadoweh, you still haven't answered why you pressed Conqueror for the bandwagon he got on RVS phase and then just decided drop it without answering it. Also, the vig thing, why aiming for me specifically?

##Vote: Shadoweh

I'm gonna keep this vote on you until you address these issue?

Spoiler:

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #146 on:** February 28, 2011, 11:52:24 PM »

Polaris' player slot is up for replacement.

If a replacement is not found before the end of D2, he will be modkilled.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #147 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:26:22 AM »

Ten minutes of this post was spent watching Edible #139.

Doll: At least your hate is consistent. Re-read other players as well and see if something sticks out. I don't know how I can make it clearer why I don't like your posts that say 'my opinion is that I have no opinion' and would rather you die instead of posting more of them.

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Re-reading through, Shadoweh, you still haven't answered why you pressed Conqueror for the bandwagon he got on RVS phase and then just decided drop it without answering it.

My original statement in post #42 was intended be read as 'please tell me what you think of three people "randomly" choosing to jokevote you for a bad reason.' Conqueror's response in post #61 answered 'please tell me why you confirmed late.' and failed to address the 18 post argument. My first two sentences in post #70 were me saying 'That's not what I was asking but feel free to post on everything else.' The jokevote wagon stopped being important the minute people started posting content and I stopped caring about it by post #43.

Polaris: :/

No disagreements with posts by Bardiche or Edible so far. I dislike how few names there are in 12 hours.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #148 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:47:01 AM »

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I dislike how few names there are in 12 hours.

The gap between the prod and the replacement was not 12 hours, if that's what you are thinking - Polaris told me that he does not feel up to playing and that he is okay would being replaced, so I opened up his player slot early.

Doll.S CUBE · « **Reply #149 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:49:05 AM »

I don't hate you.