Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 5 LYLO)

[Conqueror]

SB's CF7 vote is honestly justified by "CF7 is using AtE", "CF7 made a bad listpost and didn't give full reads on everyone" (why is this just bad instead of scummy when I don't think anyone else in the game has given full reads?) and "Also apparently playing around makes someone more likely to be an SK than mafia." It's just pointing out why CF7's play is weird/bad; I don't see any critical analysis about why CF7 is scum for them, just a statement of the obvious. It's the same with this statement about Raikaria: "This doesn't make you any townier, and people who say that Raikaria is always scummy and shouldn't be lynched are really bad." It's noncommittal and it manages to attack both Raikaria and the people defending him without giving an opinion on whether Raikaria is scum or not. I know I've misread SB in both games I've seen him play on here and I haven't read a scumgame of his yet, but his play just seems really passive and uninvolved especially compared to games like Town Mafia. I don't know how to word this better. It's not that his opinions are outdated (bound to happen when you catch up with a big chunk of the game at a time) but that his conclusions in his walls boil down to "kinda scummy/kinda townie" on almost everyone he mentions? He also felt more aggressive in the other games I played with him.

I mostly dismissed Schezo earlier but a reread of his ISO leaves me with a feeling of sleaziness I don't like. Stuff he says like "I will shamelessly lynch CF7 if he wants to go bugger off without a claim near deadline" (why is this scummy?) and "The only thing confirmed about this role is that it curses someone.  He implied it allows nightspeak but it could also be a delayed kill in which case Raikaria is joat and wants another night to do stuff...This a scumclaim btw " feel like opportunistic attempts to throw dirt on other main wagons at the end of the day, especially as he left his vote on BT after calling Raikaria's claim a scumclaim. Also, people were all over Raikaria for voting Serela as a Refuge In Audacity thing yesterday (even though huhwhat had already said "I'm 100% serious when I say my role PM tells me Serela is town-aligned" and trying to push claimed masons as scum is still suicide) but no one mentioned Schezo's initial push and vote on Serela, which fits that bill better (or as an attempt to fish out a definite claim from huhwhat if you want to think that way).

Paperblade's ISO is really easy to go through because there's like 10 posts and almost all of them are pushing Dormio, first based on a minor point (later clarified when Dormio admits he misread) and his later posts boil down to "Dormio's posts are bad, let's lynch Dormio." Why are Dormio's posts so bad that he's worth lynching over everyone else? I don't see any arguments, just a boring mantra repeated over and over again. It's hard to gather much else because there's so little to look at. Yeah, we know Paperblade thinks Dormio is bad, but why, and why is there so little about anyone else?

This is where people should start for Day 2 I think.

More posts.

[Conqueror]

First off, I want to apologize to BT for my attitude yesterday (for various IRL reasons). Probably set the tone for the discussion to start on a negative note, so let's fight like civilized people, shall we? Anyway, I've mostly said my bit on BT already. The thing that actually pinged me most in his back and forth with me was actually where he sarcastically dismissed me with "I'm still laughing over taking advantage of a slapfight," because I don't remember BT doing anything like that in our recent town slapfights in other games. The memory that springs most to mind is when I was arguing with him in Disgaea and he was scum flinging rhetorical bullshit at me (still get mad at "smoke and mirrors"). I'd say more here but I came across the post where BT basically calls out SB/Schezo/Me and it gave me pause because at least on that point we're on a similar wavelength. This will become clearer tomorrow but I've found another avenue to get a read on BT since I think it'll be more productive for both of us.

There's nothing technically wrong with Kilga's posting, but Kilga why do I feel like you're picking on "easy targets?" Yes I know being an easy target doesn't make you town but every time a new bad post comes up you're immediately on it. I guess I'm trying to say, the logic is sound, but mafia isn't a pure logic game. All that said, Kilga acknowledging this in his voteswitch away from CF7 at the end of Day 1 makes me feel a lot better about him. Wouldn't be interested in lynching Kilga, but the thought was in the back of my mind so I'm posting it for better or for worse.

BBM's questioning of me at the end looks like a genuine attempt to figure out my alignment. That's the main decisive thing for me, but in general I haven't really had a problem with him or his content. Townread.

Zak is probably not lying about his claim, since he'd have to have been setting it up from his first vote on huhwhat and the progression of his questioning looks believable if you see it with that in mind. His end-of-day thoughts on Raikaria pretty much mirrored mine as well. Strongest townread here.

Prims is a huge gay and probably not lying about the masonry given how early he blatantly crumbed it. If Serela is Not Actually Town then I can laugh in the postgame at him so that's good. Thanks for not making me have to read Serela!

That's all for now. Ciao!

[Conqueror]

In the unlikely situation that I die, I guess I'd go SB first then Schezo/Paperblade.

[Shadoweh]

Day 2 Start: Blood Teller

Take 1 drink every time jesus dies for your sins!

You found huh what the next day, impaled on an iron spike. He had to have known they were coming for him. The DEAD END flag was unbreakable.
Ai cried as she read the romantic dying words he sent her.
"im gay"

Huh what was killed! He was...

Hello, Huh what. You are Marco Ikusaba from Mirai Nikki. You and Ai Mikami are the Seventh Diary Holders. You come across as a typical street brawler, appearing quite cocky, energetic and always ready for a fight. Your hair is huge. You are devoted to Ai, having made a vow to protect her during your high school years together. Working together, you consider your love to be perfect and unbreakable. Your diary is the Exchange Diary, two mobile phones that record everything about Marco and Ai, focusing on each other.
Your theme song is 7th Heaven.

Role: Town Mason
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mason
Abilities:
Basic Rights: You have 1 vote and the ability to speak during the day.
Exchange Diary (Passive) - You know that A MONKEY is Ai Mikami and is Town. You may talk in your Exchange Diary Quicktopic at any time.

Not voting: Everyone

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
There are 72 hours remaining.
Day End Countdown

[Conqueror]

##Vote: SB

[BigBangMeteor]

Any future doc claim should be lynched for not being on Prims imo.

[Serela]

HW I BLAME YOU

* Serela runs away crying

Anyway, since the chance comes around so rarely, I'm probably going to abuse my brand new CONFIRMED TOWNIE status. EVEN IF I AM TOTALLY NOT A MONKEY SHADOWEH TIME TO GO BACK TO MOURNING

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Well, time to get reading I guess.

First things first, I'm probably going to have to address my thoughts on CF7 once more.
I'm not going to bother commenting about CF7's earlier posts, because I feel that I've written enough about them here.
Instead, I'm going to be looking at the posts that came afterwards, which means I start with this post.
After having produced very little content for the entirety of the day so far, he comes out with a weak list of reads on the other players in the game.
Of course, the reads aren't simply weak, they're all very safe.
He offers a null opinion on myself, Raikaria, Zakeri, BT, SB, and Conq.
Note that all of these people had been fairly significant points of discussion throughout the day, and so offering a null opinion on them is the easiest way to attempt to weasel your way out of discussing any of them.
And then let's look at the people he actually accuses of being scum or scummy.
CF7 doesn't elaborate on his suspicion of HW/Serela at all, and he proceeds to forget about it immediately for the remainder of the day.
Instead, he latches onto a very lazy OMGUS on Raikaria, the other leading wagon at the time.

Special exclusive case on Schezo. Antagonizing lots of people. Aggressive attitude. I'm not sure if it's normal behavior, but i'm guessing it is. Probably is scumhunting town. Still.

I really don't like this though. It's similar to his other opinions where he provides reasons both for and against that player being scum, but this one is a bit different.
First of all, it's emphasized as special. Though this might imply that CF7 intends to do something with it, it's really quite strange.
He hadn't mentioned Schezo up until this point, and he doesn't mention Schezo afterwards. Why is this your "special exclusive case"?
In addition to this, the reason for Schezo potentially being town isn't given at all. Instead, it's just a few reasons for which Schezo might be scum, but he's not just because.
It looks like an attempt to set up a jump to Schezo in the near future.
Perhaps CF7 was expecting someone to make a sudden case on Schezo which he could latch onto before the whole Raikaria/CF7 situation heated up?
I don't know, this sort of expectant behavior just really sticks out to me.

And then, after this, we have CF7's sudden paranoia of Raikaria being a serial killer.

Raikaria, personally i think that you're SK.

Just where on earth did this thought process come from? I'm rather curious.
CF7 says here that he believes this to be the case due to Raikaria's "playing around", yet he refuses to give any examples nor does he explains how this fits a serial killer's agenda.
He basically doesn't make a case for Raikaria being scum or SK at all, yet adamantly attaches himself to Raikaria's wagon because it's the easiest thing there.

##Vote CF7

Moving on from CF7, there are still other people that I want to talk about.
And so I'll make another post on Zakeri when I have the time.
Word of warning though, I'm going to be quite busy with assignments and the like for the next couple of days, so bear with me.

[Conqueror]

Dormio, answer this please. CF7 isn't for today, or any day, unless you can tell me why this is wrong.

Started by rereading CF7. Going to stand by my original point that if he were mafia, then he would have made some sort of claim before disappearing at the end of the day; given the playerlist any buddy would have coached him to do the same. His willingness to be lynched given his supposed antitown role looks genuine enough that I don't think it's coming from mafia making a last ditch gambit (which would be a terrible gambit anyway). At worst he's SK who gave up (jumping to the conclusion that Raikaria is SK instead of scum, initial defensiveness with the Raikaria vote, general weirness) but he's not group scum at least imo so not really interested in him. People who still want to lynch CF7 tomorrow should respond to why they think this is invalid.

[Serela]

Wow, I was so interested in waiting to see who died I forgot to think about who to vote when the day started. Uh, I'll think about that more when I wake up tomorrow, since I have to go to sleep now because ~*~work~*~

I can say now it's not gonna be CF7 though

[BigBangMeteor]

Ehh idk I don't really find Conq that bad anymore. Also the case was mostly meta and I find it difficult to connect back to after taking a step back from it because I really don't know how Conq plays that well.

I think what I find worst about SB is that it doesn't feel like he's building cases. He's just pointing out whatever's scummy that anyone is doing and then choosing mainly arbitrarily who's scummiest. Like his first post where he had like four ordered scumreads on page 3 or something. And in his list-posts I've seen several times where he'll point out a bunch of scummy stuff about someone and then conclude that they're town off other stuff, which is okay, but then why is he pointing out the stuff to begin with. Too lazy to do link, but he did it in about Zak in his post unvoting Zak and then did it about NNR at some point.

I have a gutcheck on Kilga. There's nothing I can put my finger on but his posts just don't feel as... solid? or as aggressive as they did in Villains. He feels really passive to me. In Villains I thought he was super pro-town A++ less than half-way into D1 and here he just feels unmemorable. I guess the biggest thing I concretely disliked was his hop to Raikaria at the end. He revoted CF7 before that for a shitty hop to Raikaria, and then voted Raikaria for hopping onto CF7 and then not saying much? Something about that just turns me off.

##Vote: SB for now

[Kilgamayan]

Conq: Been extraordinarily busy with life lately, and simple targets become a lot more appealing when I don't have the time to devote to the game that I want. (Fake-edit that's not-even-cut by BBM: This mostly applies to your gut too, I imagine.)

Time to make Prims yell at me from the graveyard!

##Vote: BT

I'm not happy that he had one solid opinion for all of Day 1 and that opinion has flipped town. Sure, he poked at SB/Schezo/Conq earlier on but none of it felt like he means it since he doesn't really go anywhere with any of it. It's pretty much a "hey look at this stuff I found" post. I can't even tell if he thinks Conq is scum by the end of the day; there is much irritation but little accusation in that back-and-forth.

I don't know what's going on with this sequence; I thought it was obvious CF7 was being sarcastic in his early-day comment to me and I can't understand how one could take the "contradiction" seriously enough to say that CF7 clarifying strengthens his claim. It doesn't help that no explanation is provided. Ultimately it looks like a non-reason to discard CF7.

I will take some time tomorrow to reread certain people properly since I didn't get a chance to today (Paperblade is at the top of this list, SB and Zakeri are not far behind). I wanted to get this much out, at least, because I went to bed yesterday having no idea what else BT thought meaningfully about anybody.

[Schezo]

Right.  To explain a few things about the end of the day.  From what I read SB and BBM were making me paranoid as fuck because I was getting bad gut vibes.  So I figured I would quick hammer Raikaria just because that's who they weren't voting but then BBM unvoted and I was thinking that CF7 would be a better lynch and Raikaria got quickhammered anyway.
I guess I just don't like BBM's playstyle because I don't find anything really wrong with him looking back.

Also you gaiz.  Give me way to much credit about how not derp I am at this game.  Yeah the masons claim was slapping people in the face at around the time I made that really frustrated post voting Serela but it didn't connect with me yet and it just pissed me off so bad I made a reaction vote.
Conq I find the not claiming thing to be scum because if you can just disappear and not claim at all I feel it makes people more hesitant to hammer over someone who actually claimed.  It just feels our meta is that way to me.
"Oh god he didn't claim hrrm err uhh what if he's a really good role" *hammers the other guy*

SB on the other hand.  Oh sheeeit.  I thought he posted again after I questioned him with 360.  So I still want an answer to this please.
His interactions with Dormio are weird.  He calls the unmemorable Dormio unmemorable. And then Dormio answers my question to SB about Raikaria when Dormio hasn't really said anything about Raikaria in the recent posts before that.  The two of them are just so awkward.
##Vote: SB

[SB]

i swear shadoweh was too lazy to give me a unique role because mine just feels like it's made up of other people's claimed roles so far

I've misread SB in both games I've seen him play on here and I haven't read a scumgame of his yet, but his play just seems really passive and uninvolved especially compared to games like Town Mafia. I don't know how to word this better. It's not that his opinions are outdated (bound to happen when you catch up with a big chunk of the game at a time) but that his conclusions in his walls boil down to "kinda scummy/kinda townie" on almost everyone he mentions? He also felt more aggressive in the other games I played with him.

yeah this is down to timezones and school starting up, not really that much i can do

i'm probably ditching my qt because it'll slow me down further, only have 10 mins so i'll see what i can do

[SB]

@Zak when you see this, does your characters name have 5 vowels in it

also zak should still answer this

[SB]

prims i'm honestly offended that you wanted to turbo me after all the doctor deaths you've caused in my games by doing that

So I mean it was a terrible answer but it's there so why not just address the next step instead of going from square 1?
And the "blatant contradiction" thing from CF7 is the least damning thing he's done so it's hrrr drr?  Why pick that one to nail him with the hardest?
Everything you said about Raikaria in your own post would be fine if it wasn't identical to what you just said about him now.
There's a lot more that's happened with Raikaria in between the victimizing and the RVS stuff so no update on that?

I don't remember everything >.>
First off, I was around to actually comment on it when it happened so I decided to push. I dropped it into null when CF7 gave an actual answer to the question.
Kind of a bit late but meh. I thought Raikaria could flip scum, but I wanted a CF7 lynch more. (Also the bit where I talked about pushing masons lynches being scummy applied to him too, although looking back I really didn't say a lot on him.

Don't see how CF7 NOT claiming makes him town. It can happen for either allignment where they leave before phase end, so I don't see it as indicative.

CF7's claim is the main pause for me because otherwise I think his contribution isn't all that different from Raikaria's but huhwhat seems to have this under wraps so go talk to him.

don't see claiming a detrimental role as really townish or anything, i've claimed vanilla miller and pgo as scum before. Feels kind of like a week reason to call CF7 town, we don't know what fakes scum have (if they have them).

Getting weird vibes on Kilga but I'm out of time right now. Will try and get into more detail when I get back.

[SB]

waiting till i'm properly caught up to cast a vote

[Shadoweh]

2.1: Crazy for You! You Bad Votecount!

their love is so surreal.. and this song makes it sound like a love that is on the verge of
becoming real but then again its impossible.. i dont know how to describe it but i feel both sad and happy
when hearing it, nevertheless nishijima and 9th make such a good couple!
- someone who watched a different anime then me

Serious Bananas (3): Conqueror, BigBangMeteor, Schezo
CF7 (1): Dormio
BT (1): Kilgamayan

Not voting: NekoNekoRex, BT, CF7, Serelas,  Serious Bananas, Paperblade, Zakeri

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
There are 68 hours remaining.
Day End Countdown

[CF7]

Okay, since i've exhausted my "horrible logic" supply, let's try some
normal logic. Or something. I had quite a lot of time to read through this hell couple of times and here are some of my thoughts.
But first things first. My D1 behavior was a deliberate attempt at getting lynched. Since it backfired horribly i won't try it again, but i'm still technically a VT with really bad bonus.

Let's start with Paperblade.
Claims his role as the first post.
Which, imo, is just bad playstyle. I'm immune to investigations, so
don't bother. And does RVS vote against BT.
Then changes his opinion pretty much over nothing and starts tunneling
on Dormio. Also votes Dormio. And says that my RVS vote is bad. Then
continues tunneling on Dormio.

This
Continues pushing for Dormio lynch. Which is just more than irrational.

His next post is happily jumping on my wagon. Sure why not, my posts
are bad anyway.

Then this
 Suprise more contradictions. Thinks Rai is town, but thinks Rai is
scum.

Prims would you support a last minute Yoshi lynch

And again off-hand comment out of nowhere insisting on pushing for Dormio lynch.

So, tunneling on Dormio, not accusing anyone else, somewhat random vote
jumping. Jumping on sure wagon with not so good reasoning. I think all this points that
Paperblade is scum.

First of all, it's emphasized as special. Though this might imply that CF7 intends to do something with it, it's really quite strange.
He hadn't mentioned Schezo up until this point, and he doesn't mention Schezo afterwards. Why is this your "special exclusive case"?
In addition to this, the reason for Schezo potentially being town isn't given at all. Instead, it's just a few reasons for which Schezo might be scum, but he's not just because.
It looks like an attempt to set up a jump to Schezo in the near future.
Perhaps CF7 was expecting someone to make a sudden case on Schezo which he could latch onto before the whole Raikaria/CF7 situation heated up?

It was a response to Schezo's "Figth me". So i went "Okay i'll bite" and wrote that i wrote. Actually it was just my read on him, nothing more, nothing else.

In the light of today NightKill flip i also apologize to HW/Serela.
I was a bit perplexed about HW/Serela to be honest.  You can call this paranoia, but there were so many things that didn't quite add up... Their mason claim at the start of the day, their overall behavior, their votes. Serela last minute hammer with really bad motivation.

Shadoweh has time to post in the scum QT but not update the game. :C

whoops, *mason QT

This. And so on.
Will write some more reads a bit later.

[NekoNekoRex]

My router got turned off in the last hour of deadline >____>

Really fucked me over, I was writing up a vote to switch to CF7 when it happened.

[NekoNekoRex]

Anyway I guess I'll have a readthrough again and post when i'm less busy

[Paperblade]

Okay let's try this again

##Vote: Yoshino

Yoshino's first big content post was on Rai, and people questioning him on this was met with winning lines that are basically the equivalent of "deal w/it nerd" and shrugging emoticons. When Conq suggested that maybe Yosh's insistence that Rai was scummy even though he always acts this way means Yosh is wrong and not Rai is scum, Yosh goes "No I already accounted for that" but doesn't explain

Then he posts about Serela and determines he's scum, and brushes off Prims hard defending him as "Well maybe he's just bored" which is pretty hand wave-y

[BT]

So. What I disliked about Conq yesterday was that he seemed way too biased about voting me that there's a decent chance he's faking it.

Instead of considering that my arguments against Raikaria might have "morphed" because I kept reconsidering my stance and found more comeplling reasons he just mentions it like some scummy development. Brushing off my side suspicions with "TD Tojiko" meta is also there and I don't think that's warranted. Pursuading huhwhat to reconsider his stance on me because he thinks huhwhat is biased against HIM is backwards, plus he words it like huhwhat didn't read my posts properly... pretty sure huhwhat would have had to do that in order to sheep me on Raikaria.

He went as far as to say that Raikaria's CF7 vote sits well with him but that's meaningless because it's not hard to understand why someone would vote CF7. Also way too much weight is given to RaikariaScum looking for the best vote without considering that he may have just chosen to go with "what I'd do as town" instead, don't understand what was so batshit about that. I didn't feel like he did a good job of defending Raikaria / answering my arguments for his lynch and Zak/BBM made agreeable points with much less of a hassle, it brings into question how much of the Raikaria defense is genuine and not just from the bias of arguing for my lynch, a defense for the sake of an attack.

Now, his current SB vote is mostly on bad content (even though I do not object - but it's easy for scum). I think I'd rather focus on other things today though - a lot of my feels here are the usual paranoia crap because I can't completey refute that he'd act the way he did as town and I wouldn't think he has TOO much motive as scum to be fakebias yesterday instead of rolling in with a nice townie post. (but on the other hand conq can refer to my play in disgaea that he seems to have fond memories of for why i think scum  can benefit from being like this)

CF7 I want to think is town for the claim and the nature of D1, namely having the L-2 wagons stick around for so long and multiple people either shuffling between the wagons or not caring in the first place. I'm actually probably exaggerating here but I don't know, there's also the claim that I said vouched for him from the beginning. (KILGA - I didn't think that much of the 'contradiction' and the main reason for raikaria > him at the time was the claim regardless of that point, it wasn't really a discard (but it is now))

Schezo's a problem. Aside from the NNR push that looked serious but ended with a lame "he looks town now, was just hating on his unvote/vote", it felt like his vote on me was a park after this. I had been posting at the time, I'd dismissed some of his arguments and he seemed to have things to say about other folks, where's the update on the dude he was voting? As a matter of fact he never addresses me again and waltzes in at the very end of the day with an excuse that's literally shit.

oh my lord.  I was holding out for Raikaria because I didn't like SB and BBM on the CF7 but he doesn't care.

##Unvote:
##Vote: CF7

I mean it was pretty obvious that Raikaria and CF7 both left a few hours before this? I can't figure out why he sat out on the last 4-5 pages of the day. Add to this that Conq was going on building arguments against me at the time and Schezo is totally oblivious, like, did I become uninteresting all of a sudden because of lack of wagon interest? Not taking a "soz wasn't there" excuse either because I'm pretty sure I remember him browsing the whole time (or at least until I logged off like an hour before hammer) and the above post suggests that he was following the thread.

His SB case is also pretty underwhelming.

Now NNR. Some its and bits from him are striking.

Man I can see why Raikaria really wants Serela dead. She really has been dead weight so far. Regrettable he's a mason and I can't have one of them lynched until later.

Doesn't sound like he's addressing someone he thinks is scum (Raikaria) here.

308
Shezo post
Okay actually a Raikaria scumwagon is pretty plausible, I'll admit. Cf7 suggesting Raikaria is simply the SK and trying to lynch him is also bad bad bad and I wouldn't have noticed. This post makes me want to switch to CF7 tbh
On the other hand Schezo could be scum trying to get people off Raikaria though, he isn't too good as far as my gut.

"this guy may have a point" "wait this guy could be scum nevermind" Basically shoots his own point (waste of time) and makes Schezo look bad at the same time.

Though what bugs me the most is that he never explained why he views someone as scum overall, just a bunch of little nitpicks ammassed to put him in a comfortable voting position. This being the case for both Raikaria and CF7 and even Dormio who he said was null here and as far as I can tell he's not null anymore for being Dormio? I guess "inconclusive text walls" but what's scummy about that?

I kinda want to lynch Dormio for being the most worthless and making a bunch of inconclusive text walls tbh

I'm not really seeing Town!Raikaria or Town!CF7 though, but maybe it's because I'm not really getting why they would be after 45 hours of badposts

To highlight the "position" reached. It's bad scumhunting at best but this is NNR so that "best" may as well be it. Eh. I'm hesitant, but leaning scum.

Couldn't think of anything major to add to my opinion on SB. Want to see him with up-to-date reads. Also his waffling on Zak for role related reasons doesn't strike me as fake and all you anti-setup peacocks can come at me. Not a priority.

..though I'm not impressed by his recent posts. and getting second thoughts on the flavor gut feeling because his first line comes literally out of nowhere and is probably looking for towncred from people like me

i swear shadoweh was too lazy to give me a unique role because mine just feels like it's made up of other people's claimed roles so far

because i really don't know why you'd post this otherwise

##Vote Schezo

Schezo >> SB~Conq >> NNR or something

[BT]

Dormio can you focus on other people first because it doesn't seem like anyone is interested in Zak?

[CF7]

* CF7 is hummmming like a powerline.

Surprise, surprise. The next case this time surprisingly is actually "exclusive and special"?. Schezo.
Switches votes pretty much every 3 posts.
One
I really don't like this blank unvote with "i need to read stuff reasoning".

HW isn't cool.  Wagon can't be cool.

Somehow he never doubted HW being mason town.
And yet votes for Serela.

Raikaria will be one of those "detriment to the town lynches" and probably flip town.  Whooo hoo.

Raikaria is probably town, like he knows for sure. Then votes for me. Then that Serela vote, then BT vote.

I will shamelessly lynch CF7 if he wants to go bugger off without a claim near deadline.

Probably he has never heard of timezones, that people might be living on other side of the globe and might be sleeping. Then hopping back on my wagon.
All in all his behaviour is quite disruptive and not contributing much. If he's not anti-town, at least he's not pro-town either. And while overall behavior is suspicious, it's still not deserves a vote. Or maybe it will when i'll think a bit more about all this.

[NekoNekoRex]

>I am still on every scumread list
>I didn't expect to live to D2
;w;

Anyway, I reread my notepad posts from yesterday.

As far as CF7, I still think he's pretty scummy, regardless of Conq's night post. SK is still a pretty weird claim to make at someone you're trying to lynch, and it's an easy excuse for scum to make to justify lynching someone who isn't also scum, especially since CF7 is a newbie and probably would have a harder time making a bus case.

I still think Dormio is scum, that hasn't changed.
##Vote: Yoshino
Had a bunch of really lame text walls throughout D1, which is odd because he was also "busy" but had time to make a bunch of text wall reads, that strangely enough also didn't have a clear conclusion on any of them except Raikaria

Overall, I have no idea what to make of Serela's apathy.
It's definitely anti-town, in my opinion, but I have no idea if it's scummy or not.

However, to me, CF7 just isn't that interesting right now.

Ugh, these are just awful. He could not sit on the fence any harder about his non-Raikaria reads, In fact, he more or less just coasted on the Raikaria vote to the end of the day. Now only today does CF7 suddenly look interesting enough to vote.
There's also the point where people called bullshit on his Raikaria text wall, and he immediately went to defend it with a bunch of "no u" retorts, which comes off as scum caught red handed but having nothing they can do about it.

There's also BT, but I am kind of stuck about where to place him in my reads. On one hand, he pretty much went the whole day without really scumhunting.
On the other hand, his responses to people and general posts weren't bad, it's not like it was fluff or something, it just looked like he was trying to hunt town more then scum, which is ???Idunno? weirdread. My gut says town, though, so I guess there's that.

I also have bad gut on Schezo, but only really just gut. Not quite sure what I'll do with it, but it'll still be a thing.

[CF7]

As far as CF7, I still think he's pretty scummy, regardless of Conq's night post. SK is still a pretty weird claim to make at someone you're trying to lynch, and it's an easy excuse for scum to make to justify lynching someone who isn't also scum, especially since CF7 is a newbie and probably would have a harder time making a bus case.

I said in my recent post that i was trying to actually get myself lynched. And my Raikaria vote was deliberately made to look bad.
Anyway, ##vote Schezo.

[BT]

CF7 do you mean Paperblade is inspect immune or you are inspect immune? Also don't play suicidal town ever again if you have been. TBH it's weird that you wanted people to lynch you because of your role but then you ended up revealing your "role" anyway?

Paperblade post about other things. Dormio/Yosihno is typically like this as town. I mean you could technically be in the right but then I have no idea what else you're doing.

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CF7 thoughts on my Schezo vote?

I need to think more about Dormio I think because initially I thought he was town for one of the reasons Conq brought up (why would he not just post a conclusion after some of his walls as scum?) but I can't really shoot down the cases on him or at least not comletely.

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CF7 can you make clear your priorities later? Because you said Schezo doesn't deserve a vote just now.

[BT]

>I am still on every scumread list
>I didn't expect to live to D2
;w;

Am I not the only one who even talked about you so far.

[NekoNekoRex]

I said in my recent post that i was trying to actually get myself lynched. And my Raikaria vote was deliberately made to look bad.
Anyway, ##vote Schezo.

I missed that until now. It still doesn't clear you, of course, but I guess I'll keep it in mind.