Pictures of Birds Mafia - Game Over

[Shadoweh]

Also, Shadoweh, if you're town, it'd be really nice if you could actually put in the effort to show that you're town by virtue of being self-evidently town, instead of expecting other people to read you correctly off of barebones posting (even if people are clearing you b/c of the way D1 fell down, correctly or not). It would just make everything easier and more voices is good.  You do like playing mafia, don't you? Come and play with us!

I'm not doing it on purpose. >_> Yesterday I hadn't slept, and I've literally just woken up now, which I calculate was 14 hours? It was a nice nap. I don't have alot of time right now, so you'll have to settle for bare-bones reads until I get back . I should be home a few hours before deadline which is in.. about 5:45 hours.
Conq = town for actually pushing what he wants (even if it's me),
Serela = town for Serela  because he didn't make a single mention about how NNR might be scum and Serela is a blabbermouth. he should still VOTE FOR WHO HE WANTS LYNCHED
Affinity = want to feel he's town but actually voting scum still makes me suspicious but I've got my eye on you =.=
Dormio = probtown for forgetting who died
other people = there

Polaris = scum for somthing, I'm pretty sure it was for deciding everyone on the flipped wagon was town when MotK has chronic bussing syndrome. Otherwise GUT!

PX, if you're threatening to vig me or something you have no idea how pissed off I will be. I will dedicate the graveyard to singing about what a terrible player you are.

[PX]

You're missing a few people Shadoweh. If I were a vig you'd be six feet under right now.

[Serela]

Oh god. It's like I was drunk yesterday. A-all I did was not take a nap when I was really tired... :c Uh, wow, well then. (If you've forgotten, I forgot Raikaria was dead and went indepth on him twice, took 4 posts to finally correct what I was actually saying, never voted, and misinterpreted an entire Polaris post to be a fabulous case on Hero when he never even talked about him)

So this is going to be kind of horrible, but, due to a tangled web I've woven, I need to go to the glasses place, like, immediately if I'm going to finish business there before it closes. And if I don't it's going to get in the way of me being able to have food to eat next week, because I'm not actually going to be paid at my job for almost 2 more weeks.

So I kind of uh have to just like
##Unvote ##Vote Zakeri
because all the reasons everyone knows and I guess what I said about him earlier (also because he's clearly the most agreeable wagon to people in general not counting me/polaris)

and then I kind of have to leave, again *cough* It's just like d1. Except with more risk of infinite ramen.

Also the deadline is in 3~4 hours, guys. JUST SAYING. Also I apologize D: This is nowhere near standard Serela behavior and stuff.

[WHMZakeri]

Zakeri, you say this, but the one "speaking about circumstantial evidence as if it were fact" is Polaris, who you are hard buddying/sheeping/defending. :\

I meant to say "wary of the people voting Polaris for that reason" not of the people who are doing that thing. My point is that like Polaris said, the alternative is to try to sound unsure of himself (Although the real answer is to just do what I do and use terms like likely and probably in every sentence that isn't a factual truth.)

This is pretty much a strawman because I'm not arguing that having confidence in non-facts makes you scummy (because this is the basis of mafia play). It's how you push it (like how Youmu pushed that people who helped wagon Pamela in GYA were scummy because it helped to cause a no-lynch).

I'm not satisfied with the answer because even going along with it, it supposes that Polaris is intentionally trying to push this in order to try and prevent people from looking onto the Shadoweh bandwagon for anything, which in turn presupposes that Polaris is scum. This means that using this as a reason against him is circular logic (Polaris is scum -> He's pushing people to look off of the wagon he's on -> Therefore, Polaris is scum.)

I want to say more, but it's been six hours since I wrote this so I'm going to put it out there and take a quick look at the current bandwagons.

[I have no name]

##Unvote

I was voting Zakeri as a tentative 2nd preferred lynch to not derphammer Polaris by accident, and as of his most recent post I have no interest in his lynch.

PX, if you still want to lynch Shadoweh I'm on board.

[WHMZakeri]

It looks like the only wagons going anywhere right now are myself and Polaris, and I don't like either, so
##Unvote: Serela
##Vote: Conqueror
Due to gut feeling from the Polaris vs. Conq interactions on day one and day two.
Plus, the interactions between Conq and NNR are much more suspicious, i.e. POst 61 where Conq tells NNR to find a new case, but doesn't mention why or if he thinks NNR looks bad for going after px (Possible coaching attempt).

And also because I don't want today to end in  a me vs. town wagon train, especially since we managed to avoid it one day one.

[Conqueror]

Stealing internet to make a post.

I'm not satisfied with the answer because even going along with it, it supposes that Polaris is intentionally trying to push this in order to try and prevent people from looking onto the Shadoweh bandwagon for anything, which in turn presupposes that Polaris is scum. This means that using this as a reason against him is circular logic (Polaris is scum -> He's pushing people to look off of the wagon he's on -> Therefore, Polaris is scum.)

I'm not using that line of logic? Not to mention you picked out the one paragraph out of all my posts where I accidentally responded to Hero to pick at instead of...all the other paragraphs. How about from the end of that very same post?

Even given that, let's say that your PoE is fine and so you want to focus on the Shadoweh wagon. My biggest beef with the way you've approached this (from the very beginning of today) is that you've somewhat arbitrarily picked out two names to attack (Conq and Serela) while semi-ignoring the other two, saying that they're bad or whatever. So you used PoE to arrive at a pool of players and then arbitrarily picked out two of them as your top scumreads. That's scummy. Here, I want to you to elaborate on your PX and Zakeri reads, especially considering your stance on PX yesterday and PX switching to Shadoweh fitting the criteria you were using for scum switching to the Shadoweh wagon.

Plus, the interactions between Conq and NNR are much more suspicious, i.e. POst 61 where Conq tells NNR to find a new case, but doesn't mention why or if he thinks NNR looks bad for going after px (Possible coaching attempt).

The post in question:

NNR: Okay, so is there anyone you'd want to seriously vote? The Serela thing is a bit of a bygone at this point.

I didn't think NNR going after PX was anything bad (otherwise I would have mentioned it) because he wasn't even voting PX, so why would that be relevant? Meanwhile, he was still holding on to a jokevote on me while poking at a Serela thing PX wasn't even talking about anymore, so I was asking him to "be more current," as it were.

I was voting Zakeri as a tentative 2nd preferred lynch to not derphammer Polaris by accident, and as of his most recent post I have no interest in his lynch.

Um, what do you like about that post? >_>

[Conqueror]

Actually:

##Unvote
##Vote: Zakeri

I'm pretty confident in Zak/Polaris right now but 1) Polaris actually posts so it'll be easier to read him if I'm wrong on that and 2) Zakeri's content today is pretty awful. Don't let Polaris get away tomorrow especially if Zak flips scum though.

[Shadoweh]

##Vote: Conqueror[/b]
Due to gut feeling from the Polaris vs. Conq interactions on day one and day two.
Plus, the interactions between Conq and NNR are much more suspicious, i.e. POst 61 where Conq tells NNR to find a new case, but doesn't mention why or if he thinks NNR looks bad for going after px (Possible coaching attempt).

Coaching might be a valid argument on Mafiascum but here where we have daytalk constantly like civilized people there's no reason Conq would be coaching his buddeh outside of the QT. Honestly the only thing that makes me nervous about a Zakeri wagon is that there are alot off people agreeing offhandedly that he 'looks scummy'.

(3) Polaris - Shadoweh, Hero999 PX
(1) Serela - Dormio
(2) Conqueror - Polaris, Zakeri
(3) Zakeri - Affinity, Conqueror, Serela
Not Voting (1): I have no name

From this post there are 2 Hours left for deadline.

Then again he's managed to push both of my strongest town reads for terrible reasons, and the people currently pushing Polaris with me are uh.. Hero who seems kind of ish and PX who still apparently thinks I'm scum but thinks I'm cool enough to wagon with so If people would like to magical appear again that would be great. As it is I'm gonna swing this way.

##Unvote
##Vote Zakeri

[Shadoweh]

PS Mr. Has No Name you need to stop wasting time at the last minute right now and throw a real vote down instead of trying to encourage another stupid speed wagon. Shadoweh is not getting lynched anymore (tm). it looks really scummy of you. If you want me dead you're gonna have to kill me.

[WHMZakeri]

Umm ... alright, I don't really have a response for either of those (other than maybe oops for the first one).

I'm pretty confident in Zak/Polaris right now but 1) Polaris actually posts so it'll be easier to read him if I'm wrong on that and 2) Zakeri's content today is pretty awful. Don't let Polaris get away tomorrow especially if Zak flips scum though.

Would a NNR/Me/Polaris scum team look right to you, especially considering my play last game?

Oh well. My last words are that I'm not so confident that Serela is scum, but he's still not town. I can't quite pin anything on Conq, but I still don't like the way he handles his cases, and I think Polaris is def.town, despite the wagon.

Secondary targets are still Serela, but Nameless jumped on the suspicions list with his comment on wanted to get PX to start a Shadoweh wagon. At least Conqueror is man enough to start a Shadoweh quick wagon without asking, and also Shadoweh is at best a policy lynch for bad town play (and definitely not a scum lynch).

Don't have much to say, but Dormio is being pretty quiet AFAIK, Usually he'd be trying to throw everything he can at a single person, but I don't know if it's because he's scumlurking or because something else.

I claim Vanilla townie.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Why aren't there more votes on Serela? :/
I don't like any of the lynch candidates today, can't we lynch Serela pretty please?

[I have no name]

Um, what do you like about that post? >_>

It made sense to me at the time and i could understand where he was coming from which of course now I realize scum can do too after stepping away

PS Mr. Has No Name you need to stop wasting time at the last minute right now and throw a real vote down instead of trying to encourage another stupid speed wagon. Shadoweh is not getting lynched anymore (tm). it looks really scummy of you. If you want me dead you're gonna have to kill me.

>wasting time at the last minute
>making a quick post before a group meeting
>pushing my scumreads as best I can in the short time I had before leaving

I asked PX directly because he was the only other person interested in lynching Shadoweh that I could remember.


Conq is pretty convincing about Zakeri and his most recent post seems to say "this person is scum and so is this person and my gut says you're scum and "we're all scum", which I did last game except this feels like under pressure "vote anyone but me" so I guess i find it scummy?  I don't really have time (due to gameday ending) to get a more solid opinion before the day ends but overnight can try to make more sense of this.   ##Vote: Zakeri, final answer, etc. etc.

[Shadoweh]

Why aren't there more votes on Serela? :/
I don't like any of the lynch candidates today, can't we lynch Serela pretty please?

No. Serela is town now let's lynch scum

[WHMZakeri]

how can you say that while voting me? :ohdear:

[I have no name]

so can someone else vote Zakeri within the next 1 hour to avoid universal loss?

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

(5) Zakeri - Affinity, Conqueror, Serela, Shadoweh, I have no name (L-1!)
(2) Conqueror - Polaris, Zakeri
(2) Polaris - Hero999, PX
(1) Serela - Dormio
Not Voting (0): None!

Zakeri is at L-1!

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to hammer. You have about 1 hour left in the day.

[Hero999]

##Vote Zakeri
You called it IHNN.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

HAMMER SHUT UP

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

(6) Zakeri - Affinity, Conqueror, Serela, Shadoweh, I have no name, Hero999 (L-0!)
(2) Conqueror - Polaris, Zakeri
(1) Polaris - PX
(1) Serela - Dormio
Not Voting (0): None!


Zakeri - a cockatiel sipping a cocktail  - Vanilla Townie - flew away Day 2

It is now Night 2. You have 25 hours to send in Night Actions. Do not post game-related content in this thread until Day 3.

[WHMZakeri]

Hangmafia~

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[I have no name]

guess = A
if A then N
if !A then E

[WHMZakeri]

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Townies: N

[BT]

guess = A
if A then N
if !A then E

I will play your game, logic man.

for (char ch='A' ; ch<='Z' && f ; ch++)
   {
   if (!solve(ch))
      { error--; } // not playing fair
   else
      {
      if (end())
         { f=false; } // efficiency, broseph
      }
}

Excuse my elementary school programming. (Of course I wasn't going to bother with solve(char ch) and end(). I'm not that bored.)


Uhhh... P.

[WHMZakeri]

 :yukkuri:


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Townies: N

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

L

[WHMZakeri]

_ A _ P _ _ _ _ _      _ _ _ A


Townies: N L

[I have no name]

S
if there are 2 S's, then raspberry soda

[ActionDan]

S
if there are 2 S's, then raspberry soda

I think you nailed it

[WHMZakeri]

S
if there are 2 S's, then raspberry soda

Raspberry Soda is correct~

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