Author Topic: Town must lynch the scum to death. (Chelsea and the 7Devils Mafia Game Over) (Read 76619 times)

Den-O · « **Reply #180 on:** May 11, 2012, 04:53:06 PM »

Quote from: Endymion

I also don't like how you describe Quiche's attitude as rubbing you the wrong way; again, it sets up an easy jump for you at deadline, especially since you listed him as having a slight scum lean.

Scratch the latter point since I realized there is no Quiche wagon, but my point is that it feels like a very malleable opinion when there's more than just the attitude. Voting because you don't like someone's attitude is absurdly easy and isn't related to scumhunting. Since you did the same to me though, I'm not sure how much of this is just your player personality. Like I said, I'll sleep on it.

Kabuto · « **Reply #181 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:05:27 PM »

Quote from: Endymion on May 11, 2012, 04:41:35 PM

yes?

No

Den-O · « **Reply #182 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:08:02 PM »

Quiche, what do you make of Lord Dechronos, and does Eyes moving off the obvious vote park change anything for you?

Kabuto · « **Reply #183 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:10:08 PM »

Leaning more town on Lord Dechronos

Also wtf are you smoking? Did you not read the post eye made where he got off that vote park?

Den-O · « **Reply #184 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:14:40 PM »

I did in fact (and yes I noticed they moved to another votepark). I might be more amenable to purging that slot with fire were I not confident that with their night talk, if they are town they can provide plenty of content by tomorrow. Of course if they flake on that then :welp:.
Why do you lean town on Dechronos? That's the important part. I can state baseless reads all day but if I don't explain them they're worthless. If you want to be a productive member of the town you have to work with the town, not against it.

Kabuto · « **Reply #185 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:21:51 PM »

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their night talk

Their?

Den-O · « **Reply #186 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:25:28 PM »

Yes I've been referring to Eyes as a they throughout.
Now answer my questions you cheeky foodstuff. :ohdear:

Kabuto · « **Reply #187 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:26:54 PM »

:effort: to make wordy posts from phone.

Kabuto · « **Reply #188 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:27:36 PM »

I should answer it before day ends though

OOO · « **Reply #189 on:** May 11, 2012, 06:03:50 PM »

Willingness to lynch Lord Pumpkin are combination of me being tired and y lack of satisfaction with the content to number of post ratio.

Although I will admit that your constant questioning of other players affords you more then what one might assume at first glance.

I'm a tad overwhelmed by things at this point, enough to where deciding a clear opinion through all this :text: might be somewhat difficult.

OOO · « **Reply #190 on:** May 11, 2012, 06:10:14 PM »

Also I guess I kind of dislike Pyoa for settling on a rather aging case and sticking to it through the entire game, although since Dechronos is posting now it's slightly more null.
Plus you know he isn't talking much.

OOO · « **Reply #191 on:** May 11, 2012, 06:37:19 PM »

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Additional question for Nuko: It might seem completely unrelated, but what is your stance on the town reads thing that I commented?

I have no idea what this actually means, you'll have to rephrase it somehow.

@Endy: The people in the "Slight Scum Read/POST MORE" Are mostly POST MORE people. I'll have to revise the list. You seem awfully hung up on me in general, I suppose if you knew which player I was it's possible you might back off a little; I suppose I'll have to throw a few more hints later in the game. I'm finding it somewhat difficult to sift through all these bulky posts and come out with an opinion on each player.

Town lean: Baron, Alice
Slight Town Lean: Bomboi, Pope
Neutral/hard to read: Endy, Milfall, PumpkinQuiche
POST MORE: Chokerjoker, Septenitron
Slight Scum Lean: Eyes, Pyoa
Scum Lean: Dechronos

I feel like I still have more to say but I'm not sure what it is yet

OOO · « **Reply #192 on:** May 11, 2012, 06:51:43 PM »

I feel like Septenitron's whole case on Bomboi is kind of reactivey and unjustified. She drills on him for an unvote which he decides a target for within the same hour, which isn't particularly terrible. I'd also like to ask her who she thinks would also be a choice lynch outside of Bomboi, who does not appear to be very likely to be lynched today.

Ouja · « **Reply #193 on:** May 11, 2012, 06:57:08 PM »

Oh man. I apologise for my away time. I hadn't expected to be gone for so long.

Alice's case on me at #109 is bad because they fail to take into account the time of my switch. The Bobomoi wagon was very much at its peak and I was the first to voice any suspicion on Milfall when I voted them. Yet Alice presents my switch as scum looking for wagons...

Also, where was I "enforcing townies" to "join me" on wagons with "horrendous reasons"? All of this is so vague and lets you go on like it's truer than true.

Joker's vote isn't any better, but he looks a lot more... angry than scummy. It's like he wants to knock sense into me because I (subjectively) lack it.

Of course, he's done pretty much nothing aside from that. It's making me think the vote was a "getting this out there" sort of thing.

...Oh my God. You've made it literally impossible for me to catch up right now. The last page is full of walls and I don't even know how to begin analyzing them.

A quick scan of Eyes didn't really make me change my mind about my vote, but that's because he's been null rather than scum. I'll try to ISO him and Dechronos I guess, since I'm not getting much from the latter as well.

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #194 on:** May 11, 2012, 07:05:15 PM »

No change in the votecount!

Abouut 3.5 hours to go.

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #195 on:** May 11, 2012, 07:11:06 PM »

Nuko:
Mostly the exchange on #124-#126 here
Pleiades also comments on it in his post.
Also Pleiades' other scum suspects happen to be both main wagons, I guess it doesn't count as leaving oneself open for lynches if she does it. Check the last two paragraphs in her post.

Given the development of the game, I've been feeling less confident in the scummyness on both current wagons, specially seeing how there's lots of other players that are almost equally bad, namely Pyoa, Joker and Milfall, that are being called out but don't appear and are therefore ignored, I'm actually pretty sure one scum should be amonst those three, but I guess there's nothing that can be done about that now unless people agree to switch onto a third wagon for some weird reason. If any of those end up lurking throughout D2 as well I'm not going to be lenient on LAL.
Also speaking of D2, my activity will probably drop quite a bit from here onwards due to academical stuffs.

Will likely be around for the deadline unless problems arise, but won't be posting much to make it easier on those who have to catch up, I've already been walling too much.

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #196 on:** May 11, 2012, 07:22:14 PM »

Quote from: El Bobomoi on May 11, 2012, 07:11:06 PM

Given the development of the game, I've been feeling less confident in the scummyness on both current wagons

Eh, not scummyness, but likelyhood to flip scum. Clarifying just in case.

Ouja · « **Reply #197 on:** May 11, 2012, 07:34:42 PM »

Yeah, okay, this is taking too long and deadline is in 3 hours.

Quick summary of why Dechronos is a wagon (and why the Eyes wagon escalated, since I'm sure it's not due to my reasoning alone :V), please?

Kiva-la · « **Reply #198 on:** May 11, 2012, 07:41:56 PM »

All these walls discourage Vladmu, but Baron Vladmu shall do most sexy♥♥ best to read through unsexy

walls of arguments. Argument too long lose sexy♥♥ points, must learn to strip naked like sexy♥♥ Baron Vladmu, Baron of Sexy♥♥.

OOO · « **Reply #199 on:** May 11, 2012, 07:46:50 PM »

Quote from: El Bobomoi on May 11, 2012, 07:11:06 PM

Nuko:
Mostly the exchange on #124-#126 here
Pleiades also comments on it in his post.
Also Pleiades' other scum suspects happen to be both main wagons, I guess it doesn't count as leaving oneself open for lynches if she does it. Check the last two paragraphs in her post.

Hmm, I guess I didn't catch the latter bit, oh well. I suppose I'd be willing to switch wagons if it came down to it, I don't really feel like any particular wagon is worth being on more then the other at the moment, or maybe I'm just waffly and bad at this game, I dunno.

Posting who you think is town is an either-or thing. On one hand it's informative to other players who you think is playing well and shouldn't be lynched, on the other hand it might provide ego boosts to the respective members (which is a bad thing or reasons I forgot just now), or obstuficate people trying to lynch those players (in they case those people are actually scum)

Or were you aiming for me to say something different on the matter?

Sasword · « **Reply #200 on:** May 11, 2012, 07:55:55 PM »

Good news everyone! My plans canceled on me tonight so I'm stuck here hungry and cranky with you!

People use the word votepark so liberally these days. I have far more confidence in where my votes have been then in the two solid spinning wagons of despair. I note the rabbit hasn't claimed yet? I might want to die if it's good enough.

##Unvote
##Vote: Lord Dechronos (L-1)

Other then possible claims the rabbit keeps assigning me wonderful motivation. I 'didn't explain' that vote I was 'holding onto' because I wasn't here to read or change my vote between those other posts. It was not an evil plot to invade Townsville. I actually haven't seen Choker do anything that would change my mind about voting him yet.

Your contribution on the other hand is about as helpful as Pumpkinquacker. Your vote for me based on thinking my original vote was scummy might be reasonable. According to your latest posts you believe Pumpkinquraker's outrageous behaviour is scummy, yet you're adding me questioning his outrageous behaviour and being suspicious of him for it as a scumtell. You're going after the easiest targets. That makes you lazy/scum and it doesn't seem there's time to sift which one.

The Eyes of Funk sagely declare that they are already naked, baring their eyes unabashedly to join him in streaking times.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #201 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:06:42 PM »

Baron Vladmu priority for lynch of unsexy

, tackle walls of aiye le le later. Dechronos continues unsexy

behaviour, stick to Eyes of Sages vote while say nothing of other matters.

Baron Vladmu is Baron of Sexy♥♥ but also Baron of Fair, and Vladmu admit Dechronos has tiny point with Eyes of Sages vote for Choke Joke, but is too vague and weak to stick to for entire day and not comment much on all else. Ah le le, Dechronos not even put pressure on hard, and Eye of Sage give reason for vote though very confusing and Vladmu has trouble read it as anything other than cuckoo blah blah spoken by toddler.

Maybe Vladmu like seeing eye hang, then ceiling has eyes. Oh Vladmu you joker of Sexy♥♥.

But Dechronos say Eye very unsexy

and scummy, and though Baron Vladmu, Baron of Joker and Sexy♥♥ think Eye also being very unsexy

and scummy, Dechronos no make effort beside say is scummy. Making look like you have opinion but not say why you have opinion very easy, but also very useless.

Baron Vladmu happy with where vote is, Dechronos still very uninterest in game and doing little of value, even after been vote. Nuko continue look good, Selena also look good but must posting more, Vladmu not like this lurking. Pyoa also need post more, Vladmu very unhappy with unsexy

people.

Vladmu wish Quiche be strap to bom and sent to moon, continue useless twitter posting. Twitter very funny, is Baron Vladmu language yet Baron Vladmu not understand a thing!

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #202 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:08:17 PM »

Quote from: Eyes of 13 Sages on May 11, 2012, 07:55:55 PM

The Eyes of Funk sagely declare that they are already naked, baring their eyes unabashedly to join him in streaking times.

You just want to oogle every inch of his sexy♥♥ with your 13 angles of view.

(Yes I'm working on a post)

Kiva-la · « **Reply #203 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:10:28 PM »

Also Baron Vladmu think Eyes being very unsexy

and scummy because vote on Choke Joke has not much substance, very empty. Like Baron Vladmu wardrobe dresser.

Sasword · « **Reply #204 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:25:24 PM »

But I'm not voting for Choker Joker. >_> 'Looked funny' is a perfectly good reason to lynch someone and if people stuck to their early early suspicions sometimes they would actually catch the scums.

Quote from: El Bobomoi on May 11, 2012, 12:12:16 PM

To clarify this, when I noticed this contradiction last night, I had expected him to place his vote on Mr Quiche by the time I woke up, but he finally noticed that this would be voting for an easy target... and preferred to set his vote on somebody who wasn't there to argue with him (see his earlier posts and his jazz with Quiche making this hypocritical) instead, which isn't much better at all and makes me dislike him regardless.

I'm not avoiding voting Quiche because he's an easy target. I'm not voting him because I'm not sure he's scum. People are very bad at changing their minds lately and somehow I've become a locked in scumread in the Eyes of the people. As for Pyoa, at the time of my vote their only post was one serious semi-catchup post where they confused half of the cast for each other, making their opinions impossible to figure out because they didn't go back and fix their paragraphs. It seems they've explained their situation is similar to mine and they just didn't have time to post anything. Which would explain why I couldn't remember them playing the game. Accusations of oogling will surely be met with eye lasers.

Seriously can we wagon Choker Joker please I still think he's the best lynch for the day.

Kabuto · « **Reply #205 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:29:28 PM »

Sasword · « **Reply #206 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:30:48 PM »

Because everyone else sounds town.

Kabuto · « **Reply #207 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:35:04 PM »

pyoa too?

Sasword · « **Reply #208 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:40:44 PM »

Like I said, actual absence isn't scummy. It's annoying and makes people hate you, but it's not something I'd lynch for. So yes, I'd say he's more townish for it.

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #209 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:45:32 PM »

You know what? fuck this. I really don't want to lynch Eyes now, but unvoting would mean dooming Dechronos to hell.

Unless...

Quote from: Eyes of 13 Sages on May 11, 2012, 08:25:24 PM

People are very bad at changing their minds lately and somehow I've become a locked in scumread in the Eyes of the people.

Availability cascade ? a self-reinforcing process in which a collective belief gains more and more plausibility through its increasing repetition in public discourse (or "repeat something long enough and it will become true").
Status quo bias ? the tendency to like things to stay relatively the same [51][52]

Sad but true.

Quote from: Eyes of 13 Sages on May 11, 2012, 08:25:24 PM

Seriously can we wagon Choker Joker please I still think he's the best lynch for the day.

I am not against this, but like I said unvoting from you at this point means dooming Dechronos if it doesn't go through as an alternate wagon, specially since he's not even around to claim.

Honestly people, look at #108 and tell me he's put more effort in than someone else in the game. He pokes at some of the really early out-of-RVS posts (Pleiades' and Vladmu's), replies to me, Eyes and Endymion very shortly and votes Pope for not reading This post as serious, which is clearly incredibly dumb considering how the last two lines are Appeal to Ridicule fluff and it can easily be read as not too serious.

Cuts
Already explained why Milfall or Joker over Pyoa earlier, and Milfall actually had some kinda content even though she fits the profile of coasting scum and it irks me badly, so of the three, I'm pretty sure Joker's the best option.

Ugh, interruptions everywhere made this take forever to post, unlikely that it goes through with barely 2 hours of day remaining but still putting this out there.