Town must lynch the scum to death. (Chelsea and the 7Devils Mafia Game Over)

[Kabuto]

You're not helping your case, Quiche. Last time somebody was smug for producing scarce content and barely avoiding prods, they were scum, and I'm only more likely to believe in your flipping scum due to recency bias. Post your reads.

Rather then make wild accusations on how  scum would act like from previous games by different people maybe you should try again and look for scum yourself.

[Halloween Alice]

...perhaps, but you still have not made it why Eyes of 13 Sages' behavior is scummier than any other post, particularly the rest ones... Though Ms. Pleiades may not be your top pick, she was the only player you had anything of substances on, so, um, I don't think I'm too far off...

[Kabuto]

Obvious vote park by eyes of 13 sages.

[OOO]

Curiouser is the telling me that I should give opinions on other people when it looks like he #FoS'd half the inactive posters in the game without really distinguishing between them. It's a convenient way to setup a jump to any of the lurker wagons should they pick up at deadline

They were people I was currently bothered by, I don't intend to jump on any lurkers, that would be bad play, as I said far back on Day 1

I do suppose my vote on you may have been influenced by my annoyance with your posts, I suppose that is not the most valid reasons.  To be honest I was also looking or a reason to get off the rather aging posts they had.
All of those FoS were on posts that were only just past RVS, there wasn't much information to go by, as compared to now, when there's three pages and plenty of people to get decent reads on.

Anyway, I think Lord Pumkin is currently digging himself in a hole right now. I'm tempted to vote him. Hoewever, I'd like to ##unvote and ##Vote: Lord Dechronos. His post at post-RVS was a pretty poor one, and used questions as a case, and just felt fake and not-try-y. Now his new sole post just has him jumping on the same old aged wagons that are pretty negligible at this point, aside from possibly Pleiades, and it doesn't make him look any better.

I'm going to excuse Endymon's whole thing as misrep and annoyance at Baron's quirky posting (which I didn't have a problem with) and leave it at that. I guess I'll leave a paw watching him or something.

[Kick Hopper]

Hard to search for scum when some players have a total of one or two posts outside the RVS phase. It should be pretty self evident if you read my reads post that all current potential scum in my book got lost on the road to nowhere and need to find their way back to posting in Mafia.
I find it annoying that you tell me to scumhunt so when you're barely making any effort to do it yourself, as if excusing yourself for not doing it just because I happen to be stuck in a limbo waiting for content to continue scumhunting.

As for my lack of opinions... um, it'd be rather unnecessary if I kept talking about my null reads and town reads when they're not in danger

I might be wrong here, but this is not the first time I hear this, and I don't really get behind the logic of it.
Scum should be fully aware of who the generalized town reads are with or without town outright telling them due to town's voting patterns and the way the game develops.
On the other hand, a mass speaking out of town reads forces scum to do the same, which should limit their wagon-jumping scope and thus make it harder for them to get a mislynch without fabricated justification, as well as forcing them to expose numerous reads which could help find scummy disconnects between them in ISOs, which benefits town.

[Halloween Alice]

Scum should be fully aware of who the generalized town reads are with or without town outright telling them due to town's voting patterns and the way the game develops.

Well, I understand and agree with this, but I, um, just don't feel like talking about what's not necessary, so that's not my reason for not sharing my null reads and town reads. It would be irritatingly noisy of me to speak of them unprompted, I think...

On the other hand, a mass speaking out of town reads forces scum to do the same, which should limit their wagon-jumping scope and thus make it harder for them to get a mislynch without fabricated justification, as well as forcing them to expose numerous reads which could help find scummy disconnects between them in ISOs, which benefits town.

Oh, well... I don't have any town reads other than Master Endymion. Also, the reads of townies are ever-changing, so it makes them subject to gotcha games from scum just as much as it makes scum subject to proper scumhunting.

[Kick Hopper]

Not to mention that that's some pretty nasty overreacting over a single vote on your pumpkinhead.

How is Dechronos' latest prodvote not as much of a votepark as 13 Eyes'? Is it not worse considering that 13 Eyes' vote was barely at the transition out of RVS and Dechronos' being right now when there's stuff going on?

Cut by Alice
The thing is based on town's reads flowing somewhat naturally, whereas scum's reads would have to fabricate a change upon desire to place their vote on X, so as long as town can explain the train of thought on the evolution of their reads, doing something scummy that scum can point and screw with should be out of the question. But I guess I get it, I just went to do a search on the issue and there doesn't seem to be a consensus about which way to go with town reads.

[OOO]

Not to mention that that's some pretty nasty overreacting over a single vote on your pumpkinhead.

How is Dechronos' latest prodvote not as much of a votepark as 13 Eyes'? Is it not worse considering that 13 Eyes' vote was barely at the transition out of RVS and Dechronos' being right now when there's stuff going on?

Is this addressed to me in some way? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

[Kick Hopper]

Eh, nope, that was aimed at Quiche. I could've clarified that but I'm pretty sure the pumpkinhead comment should've tipped you off.

Disappearing anytime soon because I need sleep. I frown at those who signed up to not play and expect high amounts of content from them to compensate their absence throughout pretty much the whole day, specially considering the 48 hour Day and anybody being able to just post whatever and run off to lurk past the deadline now.

[Sasword]

This might just be another derp of mine, but Eyes, could you clarify what the WIFOM is in Joker's post?

Don't be silly. Joker is not part of the townies wifoming if he is scum.

Sadly  I have not had alot of time to impart my saaaaaagely wisdom during these days because of work work.  At least I have the night phase free so I can take a good reread. And possibly break rules like a rebel. I'm somewhere on Page 4 and apparently I'm suposed to be feeling pressure from someone. If interested parties can give a point form of questions you want answers to I can give them now.

[OOO]

Don't be silly. Joker is not part of the townies wifoming if he is scum.

Sadly  I have not had alot of time to impart my saaaaaagely wisdom during these days because of work work.  At least I have the night phase free so I can take a good reread. And possibly break rules like a rebel. I'm somewhere on Page 4 and apparently I'm suposed to be feeling pressure from someone. If interested parties can give a point form of questions you want answers to I can give them now.

I think the main question was about who was WIFOMing, and if you're going to give a reason for your early post-RVS vote

[Kabuto]

Not to mention that that's some pretty nasty overreacting over a single vote on your pumpkinhead.

How is Dechronos' latest prodvote not as much of a votepark as 13 Eyes'? Is it not worse considering that 13 Eyes' vote was barely at the transition out of RVS and Dechronos' being right now when there's stuff going on?

because its a prod vote?

[Skull]

Does el bobomoi's willingness to be the first devil carry over into mild ocd cause  :ohdear:

Not getting why my reasoning (or lack thereof) was totes bad.  im cooler than eyes.  ^^;

I find people commenting on me and eyes and not joker strange.  those who did not side with either and FoSed everyone (Neko) more so though i appreciate her activity.

Question: What does everyone who finds issue with me or Eyes think about Joker himself?

##Unvote

joker's response is fine but he is just posting walls quoting bad reasons.  Not getting why he chooses Pope especially (over Pelaides, even), manoeuvring to avoid an OMGUS???  town can do bad reasoning too, and the missing link is not explained.  hope he can grow out of this primitive scumhunting soon!

eyes and dechronos seem deliberately audacious and obstruse until he posts more.  not worth the focus but worth the lurking suspicion. 

in fact a number of people here are just harping on questionable stuff of others like vultures on carrion and their content seems to be screaming "I AGREE WITH THE GENERAL OPINION thus I have an opinion" too.  Pyoa Aaaa and Pumpkinquiche are especial cases given they do not care about prioritization, the only individuality afforded to such vultures.  Not as keen on Pope due to early bird commentator bonus, but he is just as eager. 

##Vote: Pyoa Aaaa

I do think lord pumpkinquiche's indignance feels slightly less scum.

[Kabuto]

Hard to search for scum when some players have a total of one or two posts outside the RVS phase. It should be pretty self evident if you read my reads post that all current potential scum in my book got lost on the road to nowhere and need to find their way back to posting in Mafia.
I find it annoying that you tell me to scumhunt so when you're barely making any effort to do it yourself, as if excusing yourself for not doing it just because I happen to be stuck in a limbo waiting for content to continue scumhunting.

and you can determine im scum based on one post and not everyone else?
*slow claps*

[Sasword]

I think a better question is why in the middle of all this discussion my semi-RVS vote when I haven't made a second post is worth talking about. It's like ignoring the gourmet dinner of knowledge in front of you to dig in the garbage bin of barely worth posting about. I sense a bunch of people are too lazy to read through the arguments and are attaching their tongues to what looks like a sexy easy target.

You best check yourselves before you wreck yourselves.

Lord Pumpkinscum: Speaking of prod votes. It must be nice to keep your own vote parked on someone who isn't here to argue with you about it instead of the other suspect who's actually around.

So El Bobomoi is scum because he is able to unvote Baron?  How did this not apply to nuko and selena?
Unimpressed with Eyes of 13 Sages vote, its an obvious vote park and its scummy. Same goes with Selena, but this time gives awful reasoning as to why choker is scum.

Seriously what the hell does this even mean. "This time gives awful reasoning" is this addressed to me or Selena and what's your problem with the reasoning? I'd add more points against you from your other posts but there's nothing here to add. Your argument is that an absent person who posted once is scum because they're scum. I suggest you update your reads with some more whys. Or get lynched. That would work too.

People seem to be using the laser cutter so I'll leave this here while I check if Choker is wriggling as much as earlier.

[Kabuto]

easy targets means they have done something scummy and should be lynched for. why is this a problem?

[Kabuto]

It isnt a vote park. I do think youre scum

[Sasword]

Why am I scum. Why is whoever those other people you said are scum scum?

[Kabuto]

PLEASE REFER TO 111 AS TO WHY I THINK WHO I THINK ARE SCUM ARE SCUM

[Kick Hopper]

Don't be silly. Joker is not part of the townies wifoming if he is scum.

...I feel extremely dumb right now :V

"Mafia isn't fun" they said. "I don't play games to think" they said.
Another more focused reread will be in order tomorrow morning seeing how something that ridiculously obvious just flew past me.

Cut by Quiche
A prod vote on somebody with a random vote that everybody was FoSing or voting at the moment ingnoring all recent content coupled with seems to be lurking right about now. What I meant is that, while Eyes' definitely seemed like a votepark because a long time had passed since he set it (a long absence that has been somewhat justified), Dechronos had posted a similar vote recently and disappeared right after just because he's a bunny and he can do that without gathering suspicion.
Oh hey this doesn't look like a growing wagon, I'm definitely not going to park my vote here.
Oh look, Quiche and Dechronos are actually the same person.

Cut by Milfall
I won't allow scum to sequence break me! :V
I can see what you mean about the indignance thing, but I don't believe that it should susbstitute a decent read from content. I've seen players do the same thing when questioned and be scum, don't remember which game it was exactly but I can dig it up. Pretty sure it was IMP Mafia.

Cut by Quiche
You probably should've thought about the consequences of claiming anti-town behaviour in your first appearance since RVS, purposefully lurking and avoiding providing any content. The response also felt like a "you don't get it man, it's fun to irritate town playing to their win condition by lurking", and I already commented on how I feel about your later comments on my scumhunting. If anybody's at fault for incriminating you, it's yourself, so stop acting like this vote of mine staying on you is merely due to my incompetence.

I think a better question is why in the middle of all this discussion my semi-RVS vote when I haven't made a second post is worth talking about. It's like ignoring the gourmet dinner of knowledge in front of you to dig in the garbage bin of barely worth posting about. I sense a bunch of people are too lazy to read through the arguments and are attaching their tongues to what looks like a sexy easy target.

This is pretty much my point on Dechronos' last post.

Cut by twitterposting. Can I get retweets and favorites yet?
Eyes it'd be nice if you delivered a case and a vote so Pumpkin can update his stance on you, it doesn't seem like this is going anywhere.

[Kabuto]

Cut by twitterposting. Can I get retweets and favorites yet?

yes

[Kick Hopper]

Also Dechronos oficially lurked and disappeared shortly after I posted this.

Is his vote still a prodvote or does it meet your votepark standards now?
Milfall posted, anything to say about her?

[Sasword]

I refuse to reread. Pages are scary. Why do you think they are scum now?

[Kabuto]

im not gonna keep tabs on whos been on and not.

I do believe you used the words "vote park" and "prod vote". I have never given my own opinion about either

cut
make me

[Sasword]

=.= Look you cheeky little Pumpkinqueer, the point here is not to play a game of gotcha, it's to open discussions with each other. A back and forth if you will. Your 111 doesn't make sense and I've already commented on this. It is not sufficient and it doesn't even make it clear you think Septentrion is scummy.

It is pro-town to explain your feelings here. It is anti-town to say make me like a petulant child and hold your breath until people give you what you want. In my days we beat kids like you with the cane.

[Kabuto]

=.= Look you cheeky little Lord Pumpkinqueer

Fixed.

Where have been your reads or opinions on anyone else? Oh right none because your refusal to read anything as you said yourself. You have not posted anymore content then i have, where are your reads on anyone? You havent even posted on a why on joker yet besides saying "squirminess" and "wriggling".

[Kiva-la]

Not gonna slapfight Endymion. Let's agree to disagree. Baron Vladmu very sexy, too sexy for this slapfight.

##Unvote

Vladmu raises eyebrow at Pumpkinquiche thing. After people cry "Baron Vladmu, you are obfuscating!", Pumpkinquiche thinks it is okay to obfuscate and refuse to be helpful? Baron Vladmu think Pumpkinquiche just petty jerk and terrible Town. Scum not smug enough to flaunt their unsexy in public, Baron Vladmu thinks! (Baron Vladmu always right, because sexy♥♥)

Then Baron Vladmu realise Pumpkin snipe at easy target, and Baron Vladmu face goes sad. Sad like sad. Therefore Baron Vladmu propose Pumpkinquiche fix terrible attitude. Is not pro-Town to do. Would Baron Vladmu vote Pumkinquiche? No! For Vladmu, Baron of Sexy♥♥, know that  votes are for scum unsexy, not for Town dumb.

Ah le le, many post. Vladmu must read so much! Aaaah no time to read so much. Vladmu kneejerk that does not want lynch Selena or Nuko. Vladmu wants ask Halloween Alice why Pope worse than Pumpkinquiche right now! Does Alice mirror Vladmu ideas that Quiche just terrible player and an ass to town sexy♥♥ instead of unsexy scum?

Ah le le, Vladmu forget Dechronos and Pyoa Aaaaa! Latter needs more content, more delicious flaunt of features so Vladmu can decide if sexy♥♥ or unsexy . Dechronos smell unsexy to Vladmu nose: make case on poor kitten Nuko, then when she respond no give answer? No give mention? Vote for Eye Sage only prodvote, very useless. Not making effort to keep up with game, Vladmu smell!

##Vote: Lord Dechronos

Vladmu away! Must Vlad to moe!

[Kabuto]

i feel as though i should get naked and put a cape on after reading that.

[W]

Call it a prod vote if you will, Eyes of 13 Sages has yet to account for its vote. S'far as I can see Eyes of 13 Sages activity when I voted for it amounted to voting for Choker Joker for no apparent reason. Eyes of 13 Sages still has yet to explain why it placed its vote where it did.
Eyes of 13 Sages has, on top of that, been doing little outside of defending itself. It claims that Lord Pumpkinquiche's statements are rubbish yet continues to waste its time arguing with Lord Pumpkinquiche if it thinks that way.
Septatron Pleides has yet to reappear and so I find her actions to be more questionable than they were before. To call El Bobomoi's vote a votepark, simply because there was a possibility that Baron Vladmu could explain himself is a rather ridiculous notion and inclines me to believe that Septatron Pleides was acting rather desperately in trying to look as though she were contributing something of worth. Her immediate disappearance following this does nothing to ease my worries and, in fact, escalates them.
I must note that Baron Vladmu amuses me so, oh how I would love for him to stay awhile with myself.

[Sasword]

Fixed.

Where have been your reads or opinions on anyone else? Oh right none because your refusal to read anything as you said yourself. You have not posted anymore content then i have, where are your reads on anyone? You havent even posted on a why on joker yet besides saying "squirminess" and "wriggling".

My refusal to read anything that was immediately proven false by me having read the post I claimed not to read. You're continuing to sidestep answering my questions and giving any motivation for your own actions and now you're invoking Why Me. Talking to you is causing my offscreen eyes to go blind. You will think about what you're doing and you will not get to coast on being an amusing child.
Now join me in the quest for actual scum or else! (Danbooru warning)

Reading Choker didn't take long. He's made one other post, in which he votes the walking lynch me bomb The Pope good god you are impossible to tell apart. That's that other pumpkin that thinks it's a good idea to hop onto me for no reason. The cuckoolander fits. I think it's an easy vote. I'm still cool with where I am. You underestimate how far I will go to lynch someone who does not seem like they fit in during the happy flail times in the beginning.