Author Topic: RPG Mafia thread (Adorable Game of Mafia signups)  (Read 102089 times)

Bardiche

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #750 on: July 16, 2012, 03:48:54 PM »
There has to be a point where people stand by their threats. Naturally no one wants to be the mean person who says no. But if no one is willing to say enough is enough at some point, then no one has any incentive to get better, knowing they will always be tolerated.

This, and not saying anything of someone's abusive behaviour is tacitly endorsing it. It's not bad enough to say something about, so it's fine if they continue, right? It shouldn't be.

I'll take full responsibility if any mods feel that the above post by Edible is due to me and would rather not want me in their games. I simply do not think we should just sit by and be quiet when anyone makes it so someone abandons their wincon to satisfy a personal urge to remove detriments to their fun.

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #751 on: July 16, 2012, 03:52:48 PM »
Acting on hearsay and only one side of the story is never a good idea. If I don't know the context, I find it out first.
Actually, I misunderstood it as "Game Mod says PLAYER is bad" --> "Mod cards PLAYER". Yeah, w/e.

Shadoweh, I guess I was saying something like "it's a-ok as long as they're willing to change", but, uhh, if they aren't willing to change then yeah, I guess that's the case here. Everyone is Right and I am Not.
I'll take full responsibility if any mods feel that the above post by Edible is due to me and would rather not want me in their games.
W-Why would this even happen

Bardiche

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #752 on: July 16, 2012, 03:55:16 PM »
W-Why would this even happen

Because I'm an outspoken troublemaker?  :V

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #753 on: July 16, 2012, 03:58:14 PM »
You're too moe to be trouble. <^_^>

There's no need to be down on yourself, BT. I think if people remembered we are friends/associates/Bardiches playing a game with people before we are roles trying to beat each other we would have more fun.


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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #754 on: July 16, 2012, 04:01:28 PM »
Nah, not down on myself. It's more like I enjoy admitting to losing arguments. :V

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #755 on: July 16, 2012, 04:28:21 PM »
I'd probably say no to this proposal.

As for the game of Mafia, undermining someone using petty insults and the like is a viable strategy.  It's as low as it gets, but emotion is not entirely disconnected from how we reason.  Emotional responses inform our reason.  If player XXX calls player YYY a
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, whether player XXX is mafia or town or third party, it should be allowable up to specific games rules set by the  game mod (e.g rule 15: 'play nice') or else superseded by site-wide rules on excessive egregious behavior.   Trying to browbeat others is attempting to sway the crowds and bolster an opinion.  Please note that the recipient of wanton behavior need not be tame either.  It's up to them.  And any response to the unpleasantness does not have to be returned in kind.

As for the Graveyard, signups, post-game, etc, elements that to not affect the game-state directly, bad behavior will earn the offender a bad reputation, and as such it will be up to the mods as well as everyone else that will host a game whether or not they can participate in their future games.  If it's a question if something needs immediate attention, then the game mod should have final say.   

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #756 on: July 16, 2012, 04:46:07 PM »
I never knew mods had to wait on game mods to tell them what to do. That's why they're mods?

RPG is a little unique in that games are almost invariably self-moderated, either through a GM or through the playerbase. From a staff standpoint, if this self-moderation corrects internal errors and keeps everyone relatively happy, then we see no reason to step in (unless you're violating some other site rule). We could be Big Brother watch over all the little brothers and sisters in every game, but when the nature of RPG's games allows for easy self-moderation, why bother?

It is only when this self-moderation fails that we step in. And we've stepped in on more than just Mafia; multiple text-adventurers have been spoken to about game-ruining actions and behaviors, and there has been the occasional other miscreant in the more traditional role-playing games. Not everyone was trying to be a disruption, and not everyone was even aware they were being a disruption. But if one person's idea of fun is ruining the game for others, some sort of compromise has to be made, regardless of intentions.

The thing is that everyone should want to avoid site staff stepping in, because if we need to step in, that means you're going to see more of a punishment than simple removal from a game.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #757 on: July 16, 2012, 06:57:29 PM »
I'd probably say no to this proposal.

As for the game of Mafia, undermining someone using petty insults and the like is a viable strategy.  It's as low as it gets, but emotion is not entirely disconnected from how we reason.  Emotional responses inform our reason.  If player XXX calls player YYY a
Spoiler:
CENSORED
, whether player XXX is mafia or town or third party, it should be allowable up to specific games rules set by the  game mod (e.g rule 15: 'play nice') or else superseded by site-wide rules on excessive egregious behavior.   Trying to browbeat others is attempting to sway the crowds and bolster an opinion.  Please note that the recipient of wanton behavior need not be tame either.  It's up to them.  And any response to the unpleasantness does not have to be returned in kind.

As for the Graveyard, signups, post-game, etc, elements that to not affect the game-state directly, bad behavior will earn the offender a bad reputation, and as such it will be up to the mods as well as everyone else that will host a game whether or not they can participate in their future games.  If it's a question if something needs immediate attention, then the game mod should have final say.

This is saying no to the proposal on the basis that saving the worst possible playstyle is preferrable than avoiding all of the sour comments that makes it difficult for people to enjoy the game.

People may say that they're really having fun with it if I step in and perspectivize the issue, but you'd feel really silly about yourself if you were playing a game and not having fun with it, so yeah, the answer isn't really that informative. All of that ragey behaviour calling people dumbasses and being hindsight biasy as hell makes it more difficult to have fun, because Availability Heuristic. Stick around with pessimists for too long and you'll slowly turn into one. It's like trying to have fun in some anonymous community where everybody is too busy insulting others to boost their e-peen to have fun with anything they were supposed to be doing.

Running into a graveyard full of rage and insult when you were feeling pretty good about your play can only potentially weigh you down, whether it does or not is up to the person, like Bard said, but there's barely ever anything constructive in it, and when there is, it's mostly there just to justify the rage post hoc. If the initial intention were to be constructive, things would be worded in very different ways. One would expect people to know better than to resort to condescent to boost their ego, but it keeps happening, and if this proposal makes that kind of attitude disappear then I'm all for it.

Actually, I don't think in-game comments of this kind are that frequent, and on the basis of their potential use, I'd be fine with it if they were only allowed in-game to a certain extent and the proposal were implemented only for pre-game, graveyard and post game.

Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #758 on: July 16, 2012, 07:12:57 PM »
##Vote: Yes, i'm fine with LLD being carded

seriously, is there anybody else contributing to what this wall of text was addressing at all?

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #759 on: July 16, 2012, 07:13:44 PM »
resort to condescent to boost their ego, but it keeps happening, and if this proposal makes that kind of attitude disappear then I'm all for it.
Dude, if you call someone a retard because you think his play is shit, chances are you already assume that you (currently) know better than him. And (although that frequently happens) that does not necessarily mean you think you'd do better were you in his position.
All this touchiness about a bunch of letters written by people you've never met is pretty strange. Seriously, difficult to enjoy the game? Whatever happened to brutal honesty. :/

Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #760 on: July 16, 2012, 07:21:33 PM »
uhhh i'm pretty sure you can tell somebody that they need to step up their game without calling them a retard

what do we really gain from being able to say "you're a fucking idiot" in the middle of a mafia game? your skill at mafia doesn't even represent your mental faculties. it's just a basic "don't be a complete asshole" rule, something we shouldn't even need to have a huge wall of text to describe

Bardiche

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #761 on: July 16, 2012, 07:34:11 PM »
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As for the Graveyard, signups, post-game, etc, elements that to not affect the game-state directly, bad behavior will earn the offender a bad reputation, and as such it will be up to the mods as well as everyone else that will host a game whether or not they can participate in their future games.  If it's a question if something needs immediate attention, then the game mod should have final say.

Empirical evidence shows that no game mods ever bar a person from playing in either the optimistic belief that their game will be treated different or the naive assumption that no player would ruin their game. Or indifference, I guess. This lack of action on the game mods' behalf must be rectified then if you find it an objectionable thing to better police the Mafia Environment and punish offenders based on the judgement of a presiding Moderator rather than the Mafia Runner.

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Running into a graveyard full of rage and insult when you were feeling pretty good about your play can only potentially weigh you down

When you feel you played a bad game, I doubt you want others to affirm it by calling you a gigantic, incompetent moron who they don't know what the fuck he's smoking. Just because you're thick skinned doesn't mean others need to be.

In Popcorn Mafia IHNN and LSD found it important to state that I was "the most useless confirmed Townie ever". This adds nothing whatsoever and is designed only to attack someone and bring them down. People make mistakes, and people have games where what they think is the best play does not match what you think is the best play. There is no reason to attack them over that, and this behaviour must be curb stomped.

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And (although that frequently happens) that does not necessarily mean you think you'd do better were you in his position.

By calling someone a retard you are heavily implying you'd do better than him. After all, a retard calling someone a retard would be hypocritical, and it kinda weakens the insult.

"Goddamn you couldn't see Huh What Scum, you fucking retards. I mean I thought he was Town too but GODDAMN you guys couldn't even see it! How stupid can you be?"

Haha. Yeah, no. If you thought that it was reasonable for them to be fooled by the same acts you were you wouldn't call them a retard.

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All this touchiness about a bunch of letters written by people you've never met is pretty strange.

"It's the internet so insults magically mean less." Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The medium through which insults are delivered does not take away from insults. That you hardly know the people is a flimsy excuse as we have established rapport with almost everyone here, and for newcomers they usually want a community to accept them, not to call them raving idiots whose heads are up their goddamn arses for not spotting the fucking obvious scums you mental retards.

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Whatever happened to brutal honesty. :/

Society still considers it an undesirable trait when delivered to people who aren't your friends.

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #762 on: July 16, 2012, 07:34:32 PM »
what do we really gain from being able to say "you're a fucking idiot" in the middle of a mafia game? your skill at mafia doesn't even represent your mental faculties. it's just a basic "don't be a complete asshole" rule, something we shouldn't even need to have a huge wall of text to describe
The ability to be honest. All that sugar coating? Useless. If I say "that was maybe less than optimal", it means the exact same thing, just the other person can interpret in a nice fluffy way instead of the actual meaning "that was fucking dumb you idiot". Which kind of misses the point of telling him that it was fucking dumb. Both in regards to "you might want to improve that" and "fuck this irritating".
Calling someone a retard does not necessarily implicate the person is generally dumb, just that his skills (or the use he currently makes of them) for this particular game or situation suck. Just like calling someone an asshole does not mean he actually is one in the literal sense.
Lastly, there's of course the part where the whole raging together in the graveyard is in itself fun.

Now as for in the middle of a game: It has various uses. It's a way to fake sincerity if you're scum, can make it easier to lynch someone if you're town and... seriously, you know all the ways rage can be used in a mafia game, you've been playing this game for a quite a while longer than me.

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #763 on: July 16, 2012, 07:39:25 PM »
##Vote: Yes, i'm fine with LLD being carded

seriously, is there anybody else contributing to what this wall of text was addressing at all?

:V.

@Vhaltz:  exactly.

Don't lynch me.

Bardiche

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #764 on: July 16, 2012, 07:40:11 PM »
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The ability to be honest. All that sugar coating? Useless. If I say "that was maybe less than optimal", it means the exact same thing, just the other person can interpret in a nice fluffy way instead of the actual meaning "that was fucking dumb you idiot". Which kind of misses the point of telling him that it was fucking dumb. Both in regards to "you might want to improve that" and "fuck this irritating".

It's less sugar coating as it is "giving constructive feedback". If you have to say "that was fucking dumb you idiot" then usually you don't mean "you should do better next time"; You just want to stroke your ego by calling others dumb. Communication theory and sociology still discourage the use of strong language against people you hardly know as aggression begets aggression. This basic tenet of communication should be kept in mind, and anyone who honestly thinks there is no difference between "that was fucking dumb you dumbfuck" and "he could never have been ITP, consider these numbers" needs to brush up on social skills.

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Lastly, there's of course the part where the whole raging together in the graveyard is in itself fun.

We should not be encouraging having fun at someone else's expense. That's called bullying.


HuhWhatty Edible banned LSD from Mafiers. This is about general, not LSD, okay.

Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #765 on: July 16, 2012, 07:44:25 PM »
you can be honest and get your point across without being brutal about it while not sugar coating it at the same time. if you need brutal honesty outside of a situation where the other party really, really does not get it then you're really just a dick who likes putting people down sorry

not to mention that "retard" is an exaggeration and a bucket insult, something more accurate would be "dude you suck at this game & are shitty at scumhunting/scumhiding/looking townie as town/etc"

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #766 on: July 16, 2012, 07:45:46 PM »
By calling someone a retard you are heavily implying you'd do better than him. After all, a retard calling someone a retard would be hypocritical, and it kinda weakens the insult.
Well, if I fucked up, I tend to think "I'm a retard" or "that was retarded", so.

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Haha. Yeah, no. If you thought that it was reasonable for them to be fooled by the same acts you were you wouldn't call them a retard.
Not necessarily. Case in point, I have no idea if I would actually have been able to do better were I still alive in the latter parts of the last game. Knowing that, I still thought of a significant part of the living players as either retards or scum. And said as much.
Although I have to concede it is irritating when someone doesn't acknowledge he possibly (or likely) would have screwed up similarly while telling others that they suck.

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"It's the internet so insults magically mean less." Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The medium through which insults are delivered does not take away from insults. That you hardly know the people is a flimsy excuse as we have established rapport with almost everyone here, and for newcomers they usually want a community to accept them, not to call them raving idiots whose heads are up their goddamn arses for not spotting the fucking obvious scums you mental retards.
Dunno. Maybe (probably) I'm just jaded in that regard.

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Society still considers it an undesirable trait when delivered to people who aren't your friends.
This is true and a fact that often irritates me. I'd like to at least cut the bullshit when I'm playing a game.

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We should not be encouraging having fun at someone else's expense. That's called bullying.
Everybody gets a turn, so the usual bullying is bad things don't apply here. (:V)

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #767 on: July 16, 2012, 07:48:59 PM »
In Popcorn Mafia IHNN and LSD found it important to state that I was "the most useless confirmed Townie ever".
That's what LLD said, IIRC I only said you could have played better and included a quote.

you can be honest and get your point across without being brutal about it while not sugar coating it at the same time. if you need brutal honesty outside of a situation where the other party really, really does not get it then you're really just a dick who likes putting people down sorry

not to mention that "retard" is an exaggeration and a bucket insult, something more accurate would be "dude you suck at this game & are shitty at scumhunting/scumhiding/looking townie as town/etc"
I'm just going to stop debating this because huh what is explaining it way better than I would and has basically the exact stance on this.

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Everybody gets a turn, so the usual bullying is bad things don't apply here. (:V)
What?

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #768 on: July 16, 2012, 07:51:42 PM »
I always thought of the Graveyard as a play-by-play with the added speculation of debating who's who (assuming the mod hides the setup from graveyard)
Running into an angry graveyard that thinks your game was bad and you were scum should rightfully kill any big-ego thinking you had when you died. Likewise it can be a relief to run into a graveyard yelling at the players trying to lynch you instead of at you, because you know you at least played decently enough for the graveyard to realize (or think in the case of scum) you're town.

I've never seen a graveyard that was insulting and I'm usually not half as serious as I sound when I'm making graveyard posts. If people were insulted by my graveyard posts (possibly BT since I was browbeating him when he came in from the lynch) then I can definitely try to tone it down a notch or two, but I think graveyard rage isn't as bad as people make it out to be.
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Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #769 on: July 16, 2012, 07:55:28 PM »
wait.  Was LLD perma banned? :O. 

@Bardiche:  you are right.  I haven't really thought about the players pushing the mods to be more accountable in providing for a better mafia experience.

Well I can guarantee I'll be using a mild player filter.  I'll have a secret vote once signups are finalized where any one who is voted with 2/3 majority will be forced not to participate.  However, if this ever happens I might give them some kind of role... hehehe

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #770 on: July 16, 2012, 07:56:52 PM »
seriously, is there anybody else contributing to what this wall of text was addressing at all?

For all that this means coming from me, the list of people I have less than zero desire to play with or have in my games is longer than one name.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #771 on: July 16, 2012, 07:58:40 PM »
wait.  Was LLD perma banned? :O. 

No.  Just indefinitely, and only from RPG.

Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #772 on: July 16, 2012, 08:08:19 PM »
nnr i think your problem is just that you exaggerate graveyard stuff because you think it's funny (or something) but other players can't tell you're just raging for the sake of raging

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #773 on: July 16, 2012, 08:08:45 PM »
If people were insulted by my graveyard posts (possibly BT since I was browbeating him when he came in from the lynch)
Nope. I said this more than once. Mafia Rage is Mafia Rage. You shouldn't get easily insulted by anything Mafia-related unless you have a very good reason to think the dude means it.

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #774 on: July 16, 2012, 08:15:08 PM »
For all that this means coming from me, the list of people I have less than zero desire to play with or have in my games is longer than one name.
I hope I'm not on that list  :ohdear:

I'm a bit concerned at this stage the thread is becoming a passive-aggressive "you know who you are" type of thing. We're talking about people who are being insulting or playing badly and aside from LLD nobody is willing to call anyone else out on it.

I for one don't have any issues with the current playerbase. I'm with BT's "Mafia play is different from regular attitudes", and I'm a very tough-skinned person in general. People telling me to step up my game just adds fuel to the burning passion to lynch the scum and claim victory for the townie overlords.
Although I'm not sure if my own play style comes off as rude, hence uncertainty about this whole "no names" situation.

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nnr i think your problem is just that you exaggerate graveyard stuff because you think it's funny (or something) but other players can't tell you're just raging for the sake of raging
See? Everyone could use a little constructive criticism sometimes. Huhwhat probably hit the nail on the head with me  :P
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #775 on: July 16, 2012, 08:28:59 PM »
Copying it here because I think it may be useful to consider:

<Bardiche> To dumb it down:
<Bardiche> When a kid holds a bucket of water, you can tell it to either "hold on tight" (positive) or "don't drop it" (negative).
<Bardiche> The positive affirms an action you should take, the negative restricts actions you should take.
<Bardiche> Uttering more negative than positive restricts someone's actions, someone whose actions are restricted will feel helpless and helplessness induces depression.
<Bardiche> Positive utterances increase or enforce the number of actions someone can take, thereby granting or enlargening their freedom of movement, thereby granting them emotional security and permitting them to develop.

Basically by telling people what they did wrong you're only restricting the actions they can take (because usually people want to get praise and will avoid doing things that nets them insults due to the Self-Improvement Urge everyone has) and by telling them what they did right you improve the quality of their actions. Raging and calling others dumb fucks may be gratifying but it's not psychologically affirmative action.

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I'm a bit concerned at this stage the thread is becoming a passive-aggressive "you know who you are" type of thing. We're talking about people who are being insulting or playing badly and aside from LLD nobody is willing to call anyone else out on it.

If I gave off that impression then I apologise. I didn't want to particularly single anyone out (but brazenly did so in my last post; Apologies, IHNN, LSD) but I did feel that there was a problem where people repeatedly raged after a Mafia game and not in a good way.

Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #776 on: July 16, 2012, 08:31:55 PM »
i don't think revealing names would be a bad idea because people aren't going to improve in this situation if they don't know who they are

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #777 on: July 16, 2012, 08:34:45 PM »
i don't think revealing names would be a bad idea because people aren't going to improve in this situation if they don't know who they are

agree.

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #778 on: July 16, 2012, 08:35:41 PM »
If I gave off that impression then I apologise. I didn't want to particularly single anyone out (but brazenly did so in my last post; Apologies, IHNN, LSD) but I did feel that there was a problem where people repeatedly raged after a Mafia game and not in a good way.
The only times I've raged post-game was after I felt like I made the mistake that cost the game.
Rage-y after MC Mafia?  Yeah, although less so since I took it as a learning experience of what to do when the pressure is on.
Dissapointed after Shadoweh's game, even though I won?  Of course.  I would have liked to have done better, but Chaore did a pretty good job not being targeted.
That filler game...technically I caught scum  :V  The rage there was due to the setup being unbalanced though (2 v 5 vanilla essentially) and me not realizing a possible "scumteam" until after it was too late.  I played like a derp there and I know it though, but I don't think it would have changed anything.
and then Popcorn Mafia is the only game I've played thus far that I was pretty happy with how I played.

and it's cool, I know you were just using a concrete example instead of a hypothetical scenario

i don't think revealing names would be a bad idea because people aren't going to improve in this situation if they don't know who they are
exactly-there's only so much improvement a person can make on their own, and if you don't know something's wrong you can't fix it.

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Re: RPG Mafia thread (Welcome to the NHK)
« Reply #779 on: July 16, 2012, 08:40:49 PM »
On that note I haven't played with Px, Dormio, and Schezo in a while, but I'm pretty sure they'll all be scum together this game, I just know it!

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