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General thread for mafia signups. Whether to play or mod, do it here.
Rules for players intending to sign up:
New players we've never seen before: Link a game completed somewhere. Discretion up to the mod of the game.
People who've been lurking: Probably take a look at your general activity and conduct, link to prior experience is also preferable.
People with a bad history: Subject to approval from Godmothers, the current mod and any other management.
Adorable Game of Mafia: Edible (Co: nobody)
Ten Desires: huhwhat (Co:?)
Grandmaster: ActionDan (Co:?)
Hot Fuzz: Pesco (Co:?)
Magical Mafia 2: PX (Co:?)
Psycho Prophecy Redux: Serela(Co:?)
Disgaea: Schezo (Co:?)
FF9: A person with a name (Co:?)
Phantom: Omba (Co:?)
Prinny Mafia: Bardiche (Co:?)
White Flag: Conqueror (Co:?)
Gensokyo Holy War: Suwako Moriya (Co: Kilgamayan)
Something: NekoNekoRex (Co:?)
Popcorn 2: capth (Co:?)
The International: Dormio (Co:?)
Mirai Nikki: Shadoweh (Co: Kitten4u)
Tsukihime Or Something: Affinity (Co: ?)
Something: Polaris (Co:?)
The Zodiac Brave Story: Nobu (Co:?)
A Scummy Game of Mafia: Kitten4u (Co: Pesco)
Town Mafia: Zakeri (Co:PX)
Super High School Level Dangan Ronpa Mafia: UncertainKitten (Co:?)
Seniwac: Kaboom.
Nuclear Fusion: yeah uh
FAV: Heel turn
LLD: LSD
| Player | Card given in | No. of games under booking remaining |
| UncertainKitten | Diablo | 2 |
| Zakeri | F11 | 1 |
| headcrabs | IMP | 2 |
| Nekoneko Rex | NHK | 2 |
| DrRawr | NHK | 2 |
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| Player | Card given in | No. of games under booking remaining |
| None \o/ | | |
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Game info and player lists will be updated here as necessary.
Current signups (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11883.msg858350.html#msg858350)
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Shouldn't you, Zak and Bard have reduced cards by now?
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I only copied the post directly over.
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May I request to host a Disgaea Mafia Game?
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The numbers in Disgaea are too big :V
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Too many prinnies, dood.
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/in to replace or not-be-dominant-head-in-a-hydra for next game (whatever happens with that)
Sorry I replaced so quicky, it was a Really unexpected situation. I *should* be tip-top shape in a week and possibly a few days after that.
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Call me when there is Oppai mafia or something similar. Gonna
take it easy work on my thesis which I have time for need to finish next month FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Will be running a game based on the anime/light novel Welcome to the NHK for my modding slot.
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Call me when there is Oppai mafia or something similar.
You can be Super Suit Bunny in C7D Mafier.
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Hi, i'm not dead, still hanging around (http://badum-tish.com/)
Requesting to put Midnight Crew Mafia on hold.
i am a busy little bee and can't run the game right now, but i don't imagine it would skip more than two games in the queue before i am available to run
or we could wait three weeks if people want a break but seeing as how we recently got off one i dont imagine that would be the case
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or we could wait three weeks
>:<
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Will be running a game based on the anime/light novel Welcome to the NHK for my modding slot.
I liked that anime quite a bit.
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Confirming that my game will be run after Chaore's.
Tentative theme will be something like sword girls or sommat.
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Is there an estimation as to when the next game will be held? I'm more than willing to join any, but it'll be completely impossible for me to play before the 12th.
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OKAY LET'S GET SHIT RUNNING.
General Lines, I'm probably going to have to change a few things:
THIS GAME WILL QUALIFY AS ROLE MADNESS. I am not promising night actions with bus directs and stupid shit flying everywhere, I am promising that by the bare minimum, everyone will have a 'role'. You'll learn why once the game starts. The game can go completely insane or normal depending on player actions. Thats it. You could actually play the game normally.
Flavor will be homestuckian legasp
The setup is rather old and so basically I'm going to do signups like this, There will be 16 MAX slots, though I doubt I'll be able to fill all 16. I'll start once I figure sign ups have been up enough and everyone interested has joined.
Hydras I think I may just limit to any mentor hydras for new players who have no idea what the fuck. I do actually want a co-mod, and I remember schezo wanted dibs so if he wants the slot he gets it.
Edit: Co-mod confirmed for Schezo-tier. Capt. H
SIGNUPS GO
1. BT (Pre-signed)
2. Huhwhat
3. Dormio
4. Magical Neo-Serela-tan
5. Shadowmeh
6. Dr Rawr
7. PX
8. Affinity
9. Schezo
10. ActionDan
11. Headcrabs
12. Maav
13. Bardiche
14. Hero999
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16.
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/in
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[10:16:02] <Satsuki_Dormizuka> @choose /in to /in faster than Shadoweh or fuck that
[10:16:04] <@Keine-tan> Satsuki_Dormizuka: I choose.../in to /in faster than Shadoweh! ^_^V
Fuck that.
/out
... I hate myself. /in.
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/in
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Keine-sama always makes you suffer Dormio. When are you going to learn that.
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When Conq eats his hat.
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But he did eat your hat.
See, here's me posting without an /in. I don't have to /in. I'm a big girl without an addiction who doesn't have to /in when the /in /in /in.
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Sure I'll comod with you.
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But Schezo, if you co-mod we can't be masons again. :<
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/in why not
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But if you WANT to be masons, how is K4U supposed to get her kicks?
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But if you WANT to be masons, how is K4U supposed to get her kicks?
What kind of person do you think I am? ;_;
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Rawr. Your avatar. Oh God.
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What kind of person do you think I am? ;_;
AN AWESOME ONE. <3
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AN AWESOME ONE. <3
Pesco's cat should stop being a scum hermit and join! The playerlist doesn't have enough NK fodder yet.
(Disclaimer: I don't expect this to actually convince anybody. :<)
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/in to shoot Shadoweh when I roll vig again
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Pesco's cat should stop being a scum hermit and join! The playerlist doesn't have enough NK fodder yet.
(Disclaimer: I don't expect this to actually convince anybody. :<)
*lurks*
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That was fast.
I guess I'll have to sit past this one. I at least hope I'll have the time to follow it. Seeing a live game from beginning to end would be a nice experience before jumping into one anyway.
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Make notes, see who you think is scum as the game goes on, compare it to the results, then ask questions in the post game for things you want clarified or explained. :D
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Make notes, see who you think is scum as the game goes on, compare it to the results, then ask questions in the post game for things you want clarified or explained. :D
More things that Dormio won't actually do during the game <.<
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/in
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More things that Dormio won't actually do during the game <.<
If he did, he'd be actually less headache inducing.
Just like Serela.
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Me? Listen to advice? Preposterous.
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I think Schezo should play and let capth co-mod. There's only Conq's game left before his that still has an open co slot. I'd let capth co-mod both of them for good measure.
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Oh, capth wants to.
I'm fine with that then.
/in
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Yay now we can be masons! This has nothing to do with wanting to kill you <^_^>|=/
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You can be Super Suit Bunny in C7D Mafier.
You mean those bunny girls? No thanks.
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I'll /in for this.
I'm just hoping (praying) all goes right for me. After Feb 6, I should have days of free time. Until then I've worked it out that I'll go to my local library to post ~once a day at least and for the next week I can post a bit from class.
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I'm going to have to put an administrative pause on signups for this. Sorry Chaore.
A situation with the site means it may be down for the next few days, depending on what happens. I'd rather that didn't impact the game, so it's best if we hold off until said situation is resolved.
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I'm /in for this.
imma gonna win
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I'm going to have to put an administrative pause on signups for this. Sorry Chaore.
A situation with the site means it may be down for the next few days, depending on what happens. I'd rather that didn't impact the game, so it's best if we hold off until said situation is resolved.
Does this have to do with the korean Bnet server scandal?
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Does this have to do with the korean Bnet server scandal?
Yes
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S'alright. I understand exactly how much of a problem the whole thing is and am perfectly fine with the pause. I'll update the signups list after everything has cooled down, then.
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I just wanted to say that I'd be more than happy to co-mod, and definitely need the experience.
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The problem appears to be resolved for now. Game on. Again, my apologies to Chaore and those waiting to play.
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Signups weren't even full.
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My day is going great!
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Signups weren't even full.
Yeah, but you know how it goes when there's a big time gap during the signup phase.
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Blame Edible for not being /in :V
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Chaore go post in signups. >:<
Edi is too bleh for Mafiaz
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Are the signups still up? If so, I wanna play.
Whoever is responsible for the previous game-checking, please PM me, as I don't want to advertise another forums here. Also, those games were in portuguese (doesn't change much, tho)
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We needed to link games ???
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It's up to the mod of the current game.
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We needed to link games ???
I vouched for you. :3
(Not that Schezo requested them anyway)
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I joined without any prior experience, nor did I have anyone to vouch for me. :D
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Rules for players intending to sign up:
New players we've never seen before: Link a game completed somewhere. Discretion up to the mod of the game.t.
Just being cautious. :P
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We never had the rule when I signed up for my first game :derp:
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I joined without any prior experience, nor did I have anyone to vouch for me. :D
Reminds me of the serial killer from DtB
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...But I thought Kips said he played mafia before GDIC?
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It's up to Chaore if he needs to see it.
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Eeegh. Tough one, but I'll give them a shot, I suppose.
edit: oh i completely misread everything, it's cool. :thumbsup:
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<Ii> Well fine Keyore I'll play Mafias too then.
<Ii> Now you have a legitimate excuse to stall, late sign-ups throwing a wrench in everything. '3'
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Hey, only three more people.
I'm totally pumped for a large game. I've been stressed lately and could definitely use a huge clusterfuck where I can't keep tabs on my reads so that my mind can be broken completely.
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How long are we going to wait before the sign ups close?
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I've actually gotten a lot of people showing interest in the game starting already so sometime Monday I'll close signups and start if no one else signs.
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I"ll kill myself because I'm stupid
./in
>in
IN I SAID IN IN IN!!!!!
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Kind of noticed in the recent days between Cap and me there is actually a good deal of dead time we can't cover, so i'm making a small request for possibly additional co-mods if there's anyone up for the task.
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What is it that needs doing, exactly?
If it's stuff like watching over the game and keeping vote-counts updated, then I don't mind lending a hand. ^^
Might fling some HS-references in whilst I'm at it~ :P
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You basically just post votecounts whenever you feel like it.
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This game will require you to pay close attention to activity as far as I know. Chaore needs someone to take care of stuff if it comes up while he or capth are out.
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What times are these that you two can't cover?
I'm in +1GMT and I'm following the game anyways, and since I'll be free from tomorrow onwards I could probably keep an eye out and Votecount while you guys are off.
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@Rem: from what I've gathered by cross referencing our schedules, Big problems are generally after 2 AM Est (So around 8 GMT+1) to 12 (6 GMT+1 i think given maths) in general and sometimes until 4 PM (10 GMT+1) on Monday and Wednesdays.
Also Maav has requested replacement in Imp Mafia.
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So would that be 8 AM to 6 PM for me? or 8 PM to 6 AM?
For the first case I could cover nicely from 10AM to 6PM, and in the second case I could cover from 8PM to 4AM so either way it'd just leave a blind hour or two, and if it comes to having to cover the whole thing for some particular reason, I can always just stay up one more hour or wake up an hour earlier.
About the replacement I'm currently in the middle of my very first mafia game elsewhere so I don't think I can do that, I'll leave that for someone more experienced.
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First one. And if so that works excellently.
You have any other methods of contact you'd prefer or should i just drop you the mod QT in a PM and we'll handle things through it?
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First one works best, too, sometimes I get surprise internet curfew past 3AM and that'd be no good.
It's either that or PM, so the QT is good.
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Perhaps the title should be changed to reflect replacement needing. It's easy to miss since it's an offhand comment in the middle of co-mod discussion.
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REPLACEMENT FOR MAAV NEEDED IN IMP MAFIA
There.
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Derps doing it wrong.
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Dorian has replaced Maav, so no more replacement needed.
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Nevermind now Headcrabs wants a replacement.
modkilled
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I'd like to drop my game from the hosting list.
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Gonna get this post saying that I plan on running my game if that's ok out there.
(http://i.imgur.com/JFnu9.jpg)
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You ready to run it now?
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I am indeed! Got everything written out and organized. And pending my doublecheck approval from Pescocoa, I may be able to open up signups tonight. :D
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Go ahead whenever you feel like it.
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw snap son its timeeeeeeeeee
This is the signups for Midnight Crew Mafiaaaaaaaaa
This is not role-madness, but there are a fair number of roles to be had. Nothing too out there or crazy, but still fun :D
No hydras. The only exception is if you hand-draw me a picture of a unicorn and I deem it worthy of deserving a hydra. This is a real rule.
Some bastard modding going on here. :D just a tad +w+
Days are 72 hours and nights are 24. This can be reduced by me anytime depending on activity levels.
14 player game. Hopefully. If I can't reach that number, then allow some time for setup changes.
Flips will reveal character name and alignment, not powers.
No alignment changing, I am not that crazy in the head yet.
Lylo will be announced when reached.
Scum will have daytalk and safeclaims.
Kitten4U shall be graciously co-modding with me, but people who want to solely post votecounts are welcome.
Playerlist:
1. huh what
2. Dormio
3. ActionDan
4. PX
5. Dr Rawr
6. Serela
7. ShadyK
8. I have no name
9. Shadoweh
10. Affinity
11. Anthy
12. ICE
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back to back hamsteak games?
Oh well, /in.
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[17:22:05] <Isono_dorMiwa> @choose /in or do not do it
[17:22:06] <@Keine-tan> Isono_dorMiwa: I choose.../in! ^_^V
YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!
NO! GET AWAY FROM ME, COW!
WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THOSE HORNS THOSE DON'T GO THER-
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... /in
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this is a homestruck spin-off is it not?
This calls for an /in.
Hopefully I'll be the 2 of clubs and get to claim first.
GDI let me claim!
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Trixie has decided to entertain you all with her presence. Hopefully, you will appreciate that The Great and Powerful Trixie is willing to waste her time for you common ponies.
/in
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/in i guess
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/in
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I might be interested in joining if I could find the general mafia rules anywhere.
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Ask the person running the game for the rules.
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I'd like to join if that's alright.
/in
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/in
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/in
Hope this doesn't backfire horribly...
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Hey how are we suposed to play card games like this?
Guess I gotta nightkill you to free up some time. @_@ /In-inations
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... /in
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I'm going to have to /out
Sorry
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damn schezo, what did affinity ever do to you
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Expectations probably need to be lowered a bit, if this game is to be held... :(
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Yeah, assuming I've hit the peak of interest in my game, I'll revise the setup to reflect the current number of players.
But don't let this drive you away if you were considering joining, I'd be happy to rechange the setup any number of times to accommodate more people.
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Doubleposting is so townie
Game is now not nearly as bastardly. I'm talking hardly any at all now. :D
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Can you take in one last /in for the road sir?
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If you're taking /ins I want to see shadoweh in her native environment.
I promise 80% less rage than usual~
She can vouch that I will shoot without mercy or compunction~
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Well, prepare to be in for some disappointment.
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Alright then! I think 12 people is it for these signups!
Also, I earlier made an altered setup to accommodate the fewer number of players, basically taking out the bastard elements. But now that we have 12, I find it very possible and viable to put them back in again if people want them.
What I'm basically asking is for a poll of the current signups if they want the tame setup that they signed up under or if they want to participate in the bastard elements I had planned in the past. I want people to enjoy themselves the best they can and I won't think either way if you would prefer either decision. If you want to tell me privately, you may do so in a PM or on IRC.
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I don't care.
Put me as voting for both.
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whichever one you think you'd enjoy hosting more, man
also I don't know half of the people in this playerlist. I got the impression GreyICE was some "wow motk games aren't my cup of tea because you all SUCK.........." elitist too but whatever right?
EDIT: after further consideration, put my vote down for bastard if i roll town but ordinary if i roll scum
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Well, prepare to be in for some disappointment.
Meh, as long as there isn't a dead thread full of rage because I was supposed to determine that she was peppermint scum rather than plain old vanilla scum~
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I'd vote for bastard because ~*~FUN~*~
note that ~*~FUN~*~ is not necessarily equivalent to Fun
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Meh, as long as there isn't a dead thread full of rage because I was supposed to determine that she was peppermint scum rather than plain old vanilla scum~
would you be interested in an offer to join the Quicklynch Shadoweh D1 Voting Block if you got to be the one responsible for the hammer? it'd almost be like a vig, just a day-ending one that requires votes from a majority of your fellow players
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Policy lynches aren't my thing. Unless its meransial, he's deadlier to town as town than scum, but I think that hasn't infiltrated here yet~
Also I'm not some sort of elitist :p. just never got around to joining here. There's a reason I chose to advertise my CoC game here and it's not 'cause I think the ms crowd is "omg amazing 100%"
Shadoweh is, if previous experience is a guide, terribly terribly obvious scum (quickhammering without a claim then blaming the claimed town doublevoter? *sigh*). That's kinda an asset in a player really~
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Shadoweh is, if previous experience is a guide, terribly terribly obvious scum Third Party (quickhammering without a claim then blaming the claimed town doublevoter? *sigh*). That's kinda an asset in a player really~
I fixed that for you. :p
And considering you guys made the same mistake three times after, I would hope you figured out by now it really was a mistake.
PS I don't care as long as I'm not vanilla town. >:<
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So you finally realise how lame it is to be town.
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Peppermint scum, vanilla scum, 'tis all the same. All third parties are scum, to be lynched and vigged as necessary.
I'm always town, and I love it.
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Town is dumb :smug:
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I fixed that for you. :p
And considering you guys made the same mistake three times after, I would hope you figured out by now it really was a mistake.
PS I don't care as long as I'm not vanilla town. >:<
who hammered day 2?
LLD. Scum. Honestly that should have clued me in.
As for day 3, UK clearly reacted like town (oh shit oh shit) while you started looking for people to blame. Buuuut
TLDR quickhammers are scummy. Not like you weren't obv on other merits~
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As for day 3, UK clearly reacted like town (oh shit oh shit) while you started looking for people to blame.
Pretty sure this is just how third party Shadoweh acts in general, citing Magical Madness as an example.
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I think 'oh shit' is a quote from me immediately after I realized what happened. <_<
The difference is in my attitude, not your perception. Playing by yourself is different then playing with buddies.
And no. I realized how much I love being town and how I would never want to be anything but townie obvtown. <^_^>
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And no. I realized how much I love being town and how I would never want to be anything but townie obvtown. <^_^>
From the one that picked third party in CYS.
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That is the point, Durrmio. It was a learning experience. And now that horrible addiction to being quicklynched is all gone.
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I think 'oh shit' is a quote from me immediately after I realized what happened. <_<
The difference is in my attitude, not your perception. Playing by yourself is different then playing with buddies.
And no. I realized how much I love being town and how I would never want to be anything but townie obvtown. <^_^>
Followed by an immediate attack on Ovistin for not announcing the L-1.
It's the way you pulled the "look over there that was much scummier!" that did it :p. "Why me fry me" may not be a hard and fast rule but it's pretty good. And yeah, UK has bed around the block enough to know that that would be exactly the wrong move to pull in a quickhammer situation, which is why I didn't entirely trust her, but her reaction was still town, while yours was just... Scummy.
Truly ballsy, in-your-face antics are rare for scum to pull. LLD... I may have some bias in that area. Looking back that was an appallingly obvious quickhammer.
Btw you are not an autolynch in PYP, unlike EMPKing, who is 3/3 on picking scum and thus just gets filleted on general principle.
Meh and I should not have read his giving up as town... My play is not perfect, but I stand by being easy to read as town, and getting it right probably 30-50% (and if anyone thinks they top 50% in mafia, they're kidding themselves)
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It was a learning experience.
I was under the impression that you had learnt nothing.
After all, you died D1. :D
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Bastardization sounds fun :D
Besides I need to grind up my lynching skill.
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Peppermint scum, vanilla scum, 'tis all the same. All third parties are scum, to be lynched and vigged as necessary.
I love you so much. Finally someone who gets it.
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Is this what I'm sensing here? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMs712oA_Lg)
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First game that starts in a feasible time is one of the few I don't have time to join. ::)
I'll be skimming through posts updates I guess.
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PS I don't care as long as I'm not vanilla town. >:<
Requesting that mod fulfill Shadoweh's request for a vanilla survivor role.
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I love you so much. Finally someone who gets it.
But K4U and I know this too :|. And tend to preach it ...
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And it accomplishes nothing if the people who know it aren't playing and showing it in practice.
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Yeah well maybe if mafia weren't a shitty game I'd play :|
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The meta will stay this bad because there's nothing encouraging better play.
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I'd be interested in modding a Final Fantasy 9-themed Mafia game.
I figure I'll have a load more experience with stuff by the time my turn to mod comes around so I might as well say this now before the queue gets even more filled :V
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The meta will stay this bad because there's nothing encouraging better play.
You could always show us how it's done :smug:
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I'd be interested in modding a Final Fantasy 9-themed Mafia game.
Dibs on Quilla who powers up by eating all the lynchees.
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Zidane was always my choice in Dissidia
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You could always show us how it's done :smug:
Same for you
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Same for you
I'm not the one complaining about the meta.
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Neither was I. People who decide to never play have no say.
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Right, so I'm opening signups for Sword Girls Anonymafia.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8873/47919e1ef193c4bc4c49406.jpg)
Theme will be girls with swords aww yeah. The game will be anonymafia so you'll pm me your /in along with any ordered character choices you may have (along with an info link/avatar if possible). If you don't want to pick a character you can just PM /in anyway and I'll give you one from my vast library. If you pre-in/d with a choice I probably forgot it so don't forget to send it again! Character choices and roles will be randomized, obviously.
As for character choices anyone who's female and wields a blade goes. If you want to pick someone who wields sissy knives that's fine but don't complain when I modify the setup to make you voteless or hated for being lame.
The game is not a bastard mod despite the placeholder name. Because it's not a bastard mod if the players are told it is. But yeah, no lying mods or anything like that.
The game is currently set for about 13 people but I can always adjust it in either direction depending on interest.
If there's anything else I forgot you can ask. But don't /in in thread obviously. Unless you want to blow your load early; that's fine with me.
Co-mods/Votecounters/Reviewers(lol): Pesco and capth
Current signups: 13/~13
Edit: Don't forget to change your forum time settings for DST people.
Partial roster by popular demand:
1) Farina (Fire Emblem)
2) Meiya Mitsurugi (Muv-Luv)
3) Yuno Gasai (Mirai Nikki)
4) Quicksword Irene (Claymore)
5) BlackRose (.hack//Infection)
6) Eclair Martinozzi (Dog Days)
7) Shana (Shakugan no Shana)
8) Tenshi Hinanawi (Touhou Project)
9) Uesugi Kenshin (Sengoku Rance)
10 Maka Albarn (Soul Eater)
11) Esuna Busy (The 7th Saga)
12) Kaori Kanzaki (To Aru Majutsu no Index)
13) Sayaka Miki (Puella Magi Madoka Magica)
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Are traps fair game?
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Are traps fair game? I assume you're talking about male traps
Hello Lynchee Survivor
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9) Uesugi Kenshin (Sengoku Rance)
>Rance
This game is bad even before it's begun.
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4) Some girl (Some series)
some girl is my waifu. some series was such a great series, too
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"#Something track" off its OST was one of the most epic songs of all times.
Also at this rate I'm not gonna get a chance to sign in, curse you all being in such a hurry to play mafia ;_;
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Dang that was fast
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The people who didn't choose girls should just be given "Mean Sword Girl".
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Oh, L-1.
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##Unvote
##Vote Dormio
this post made a lot more sense before he edited a second line into his
the above line made a lot more sense before he edited said line out, what the hell dormio
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##Vengeful kill HW
You're just not very good at this HW.
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So which of the characters is the inevitable Shadoweh/Dormio hydra? I'm going to go ahead and say it's Yuno.
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Conq is obv playing as 3rd party tenshi
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Conq is obv playing as 3rd party tenshi
>7) Shana (Shakugan no Shana)
You sure?
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SAYAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/301/890691499b48197ad2c8cb5.jpg)
That's 13 signups. I can fit one more signup into the game (and only one more, seeing as there are only 14 anon accounts). In any case, send your cropped avatars over if you haven't already. Jerks who haven't picked yet should also do that within the next few days or just indicate that they want me to pick for them. I'm still waiting for my co-mods to make some potential "final tweaks" to the setup.
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>7) Shana (Shakugan no Shana)
You sure?
That's what being Survivor Masons is about.
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Conq being survivor masons with himself?
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There should be 16 dummy accounts (MSR had 16 players). If you can find the user ID for the fourteenth, just keep adding 1 to it until you find fifteen and sixteen.
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There should be 16 dummy accounts (MSR had 16 players). If you can find the user ID for the fourteenth, just keep adding 1 to it until you find fifteen and sixteen.
It's more like we've lost the passwords to two of the accounts. :V
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Not knowing the original password doesn't stop me from being able to change the password.
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Is that a Youmu avatar I see? Looks like Shadoweh is screwed out of the game then.
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Not knowing the original password doesn't stop me from being able to change the password.
Ah, that'll probably be useful for future mods.
In any case I'm closing signups as of now. The game will start in about 2 days, as I'll be fairly busy until tomorrow.
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I'd be interested in modding a Final Fantasy 9-themed Mafia game.
Was this missed? I didn't see it added to the queue.
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It'll be added once you get yourself a name.
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Oh snap
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Looking for a replacement for Quicksword Irene in Sword Girls Anonymafia. I may have a replacement ready but if you're interested please send me a PM.
Replacement has been found, thanks!
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Is the next game going to be role madness or something more vanilla?
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Shadoweh's game will be all about being a creepy stalker :V
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http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12336.0.html#new (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12336.0.html#new)
Explanation of lack of presence.
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##PSA
All future bastard mod/role madness games must be announced as such. If you think your game might be either, get an independent reviewer to check.
>_> The independent reviewer may not be pesco.
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does the independent reviewer have to be from this site?
i'm retconning my game into non-bastard and non-rolemad but it's still probably worth asking because i do have a bastard set-up i'd like to host sometime
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<huhwhat> when's shadoweh opening signups
OKAY GEEZE I AM POSTING
~*~So You Want To Be The Townest~*~
Moderator: Shadoweh ^_^/
Co-Mod: Pesco
Reviewer: UncertainKitten
NO SCREW YOU CONQ I AM NOT CHANGING MY BEAUTIFUL SETUP. This game is a closed setup. Pesco insists it's a bastard mod but seeing the previous standards in my opinion it can't possibly qualify. Your mileage may vary? As Chaore said, I am not promising night actions with bus directs and stupid shit flying everywhere, I am just promising there will be multiple roles. And 0-X Vanilla Town.
Edit: No nasty language. Any slurs, swears or other nasty things will be MODIFIED BEAUTIFULLY. See This thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,9247.0.html) for examples of what your UNCOUTH posts might turn into.
There is a 400 word limit on all posts. Any posts going over 400 words will have the extra content edited by my second co-mod, Google Translate.
There will be no prods in this game. Instead there will be a general action any player can use during the day to prod an inactive person, and then kill them if they've already been prodded and are still inactive. If you want someone prodded/modkilled, do it yourself. \^_^/
Flavor is based on Reality Television. You will be trying to fight the dreaded Multi Alliance For Independant Altruism trying to power it's way to the end by vetoing its way to the BIG PRIZE!
Pesco suggested a 15 player game, but I can run at a minimum of 12. I'll be taking signups until I finish role pm's Probably about 3-4 days.
If signups fill up fast I'll consider hydras but I have a feeling we will need players instead.
Lucky Contestants! 15/16
1) capth
2) Affinity
3) Serela (With PX monkey on his back)
4) Kitten4ume
5) Dr. Rawr
6) Action Dan
7) Omba
8) Conqueror 8)
9) Dormio
10) I have no name
11) Bardiche <3 <3 <3
12) BT
13) Lucky Dorian G.
14) Lady LambdaDelta
15) Keyore
Super High School Level Replacements:
1) Jesus huh what
2) Vhaltz (April 9th)
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/in
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/in. Long hiatus my foot, on second thought.
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/in as promised
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/in
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/in
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/in?
/inb4 I get another informed-townie role where I can set-up speculate to my heart's content while remaining vague!
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Reiterating that the game is definitely bastard mod because it will involve Shadoweh being a dirty liar.
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Edit: No nasty language. Any slurs, swears or other nasty things will be MODIFIED BEAUTIFULLY. See This thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,9247.0.html) for examples of what your UNCOUTH posts might turn into.
Queue preemptive FABULOUS wording. :V
There is a 400 word limit on all posts. Any posts going over 400 words will have the extra content edited by my second co-mod, Google Translate.
To make sure: Double posts count as one post?
... anyway, /in
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YOU CAN'T MAKE ME /IN!
... Oh shit.
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To make sure: Double posts count as one post?
Double posts count as one post, as do Edits By Way of Me.
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as do Edits By Way of Me.
... Oh hell. :V
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.../interesting
Yes this is intent to play in this game.
Cue 401 word posts.
Also, do quotes count towards the wordcount limit?
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Pesco insists it's a bastard mod but seeing the previous standards in my opinion it can't possibly qualify.
I believe in Pesco since he's a bro.
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Also, do quotes count towards the wordcount limit?
They sure do! Quote strip walls are the biggest wordcounts.
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I request a hand-selected 3rd party role. I wanna be the 3rd party!
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This is not I Wanna Be the Mafia Game. >:<
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There will be no prods in this game. Instead there will be a general action any player can use during the day to prod an inactive person, and then kill them if they've already been prodded and are still inactive. If you want someone prodded/modkilled, do it yourself. \^_^/
sure hope you're converting people to Neutral Survivors on modkill, because otherwise this sounds like an ~UNLIMITED DAYVIG~
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sure hope you're converting people to Neutral Survivors on modkill, because otherwise this sounds like an ~UNLIMITED DAYVIG~
And justice would've been sweet if not for more bastard moddery.
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You won't get to prod anyone for 24 hours. I'll detail it completely in the game start thread, but no yu can't just unlimited dayvig each other. :V This is not Bad Idea Mafia.
Edit: You should sign up. I don't think you would regret it due to setup. I give no guarentee on whether the players would make you regret it. <_<;
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I'll honestly pass. If Pesco says it is bastard mod I believe him, and since a while I'm not too keen on joining games that have bastard moddery in them.
Also, huh what's guide is obviously wrong, I didn't wall of text so huge with Eclair. Did I?
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Bard, we should hydra.
(otherwise I'm probably not joining but will be around for replacements and such)
cut: not sure about paragraph size, but your posts were pretty gigantic
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Bard, we should hydra.
(otherwise I'm probably not joining but will be around for replacements and such)
k, but I'm not posting in the thread.
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neither will i
~FODDER FOR THE PRODVIG GODS~
Unless, uh, you actually want to hydra or something. It wasn't a serious request given your meta.
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I actually like filling one slot with two players,
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That sounds dirty. >:<
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I like filling three slots with three players ry(
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I don't really want to play in a bastard game with a wordcount right now, but I guess having somebody to vent to other than the mod could make it tolerable.
... actually, due to timezone reasons, I'm not sure if this would be a good idea. Most of the time you post, it's while I'm asleep, and my sleeping schedule has recently shifted to me sleeping in. It would be very, very inconvenient to organize a post reflecting the opinions of both heads, even if only one head is posting.
tl;dr next time I should think things through before I propose a hydra even if it's facetious, sorry man :X
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Lesson learned, don't be facetious. (actually I was sarcastic, filling one slot with two players is dumb and should only be done if one of the heads is called Serela or similar)
EDIT: I also do not wish to play in a bastard mod game with a word count, so that makes two of us. Hydra observe?
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You know, if two lurker heads make an even lurkier hydra, does the reverse apply?
I think that Shadoweh should have taken up that offer to hydra with JOB to find out. It would have been educational.
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Oh, right. Add "Phantom" to the queue, please.
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I'll pretty much hydra with anyone.
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I'll pretty much hydra with anyone.
Ya wanna?
I heard you have good grammer. That could fill in some holes. Dirty.
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I can be an empty hydra head until the 8th :V
Nah, I guess I'll be around by then if anybody needs a replacement, but seeing how it'd be Day 3/Day 4 by then I'm pretty sure nobody would need one by then. I'd still have to consider it in that case since I'd have to read through the whole thread in one go, too, which is blegh, so I guess I won't be in until next game. Good luck people~
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;____________________________; You are going to make the kittens cry. Won't you in for the kittens?
CONQ GET ME 5 MORE PLAYERS. THIS IS ENTIRELY YOUR FAULT.
No hydras until at least 12 game slots are filled. >_<
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So I'm reviewing the set up and I feel it's less bastard mod and more role madness. Pesco is dum >=[.
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;____________________________; You are going to make the kittens cry. Won't you in for the kittens?
CONQ GET ME 5 MORE PLAYERS. THIS IS ENTIRELY YOUR FAULT.
No hydras until at least 12 game slots are filled. >_<
I'm sure the kittens will cry regardless. But at least it won't be before the game starts.
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filling one slot with two players is dumb and should only be done if one of the heads is called Serela or similar)
Sometimes I wonder if I could have a hydra make cases for me because apparently even when I think they're good they aren't, and that combined with my good reads would equal awesome.
But I probably wouldn't be able to convince my partner my targets were scum in the first place.
...I just like the company they give, anyway ;_;
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I'll be your partner and totally not set you on the path to destruction you have no chance to survive make your time ha ha ha ...
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That sounds exciting :]
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Can Serela and I hydra next game?
The posts would be some sort of rambling trainwreck alternating coherent and non-coherent paragraphs with no guts to vote anybody for any purposes other than questioning :3
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But you were so good as Irene!
I almost never question people anyway :3 Not my scum reads, at least. Sometimes I question townies. Mostly when I'm mentally questioning what is wrong with them why would you think that.
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thread title
This Sword Girls Anonymafia game sure sounds interesting! Where do I /in?
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Current signups (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11883.msg793187.html#msg793187)
Huh, what? Sword Girls Anonymafia? I'm totally getting pumped for this Midnight Crew game.
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Policy lynches aren't my thing. Unless its meransial, he's deadlier to town as town than scum, but I think that hasn't infiltrated here yet~
Also I'm not some sort of elitist :p. just never got around to joining here. There's a reason I chose to advertise my CoC game here and it's not 'cause I think the ms crowd is "omg amazing 100%"
Shadoweh is, if previous experience is a guide, terribly terribly obvious scum (quickhammering without a claim then blaming the claimed town doublevoter? *sigh*). That's kinda an asset in a player really~
Read Balanced Game of Mafia and tell me Shadoweh's obvscum.
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More like read Coldcrow in Diablo mafia and tell me that GreyICE's statement doesn't apply.
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On a completely different note, after having talked with Pesco about PX he said no official action would be taken on the past game unless people publically said something. Since I know many people said things in the QT's I'm opening discussion to if you wish to play with him again/ever.
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px should probably be carded, but I don't think he should actually be banned from joining games. I'm cool with playing with him so long as he ~actually posts things~.
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Instead of outright banning him, giving him incentive to actually post might be a better idea. More active players is always better.
And by incentive I mean something along the lines of "2 or 3 prods in one game = instant red card".
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Public call outs are the worst thing.
My problem with PX is that he basically trolls every game he plays. He played some games well, but then you get shit like Darker than Black and this. If you're not going to play the game, don't sign up. If you don't enjoy the game, don't sign up. It's not hard. So yeah, as long as he keeps playing as Third Party PX I don't really want to play with him. I can't read people that don't play to their wincon.
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I think in the past game, there were multiple people who employed the "strategy" of just catching prods and warnings and riding out the mod's refusal to incite them to play, so it'd be a right weird thing to only single out PX for this behaviour.
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I was particularly annoyed because not only was he prodded repeatedly, but we knew his activity time. We also had a long discussion over new rules created specifically because we decided the penalty for a modkill was not large enough if townies were lurking as much as they did. Ultimately we decided to make the penalties much harsher, such that a town modkill would end the day with a no lynch and a scum mod-kill would reset the day.
As a player I can accept his presense, but as a mod I don't want to have to deal with a player that will have fewer posts than prods by the time they're lynched, assuming I'm not forced to modkill them first.
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:iagreewithhuhwhat:
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Also register my /in. I make no guarantees that I will play like I usually do and I may be needlessly concise and lol etc. I do not wish huh what as a hydra head because I consider them an unfair advantage over the other players.
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I think in the past game, there were multiple people who employed the "strategy" of just catching prods and warnings and riding out the mod's refusal to incite them to play, so it'd be a right weird thing to only single out PX for this behaviour.
PX is being singled out because it's repeat behavior from him.
I remember only reading the postgame of the game before this one, seeing huh what complaining about PX behavior in that one too, and thinking to myself "why is he still allowed to play if he continues to act in a manner that people complain about him postgame?"
So uh.
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Just enforce the yellow card system like how it was done with Zakeri and I think that should be an effective enough deterrence. Probably one every three prods. Everyone who got banned so far had at least broken one setup/caused unimaginable hurt and I don't think it's fair to lump PX in with those goons.
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Aw shoot, I'll host Prinny Mafia sometime.
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I haven't taken action because I haven't been directly involved in a game with PX like this last one. Also because I expect you guys to create the environment and standard you want to play in. If you guys consider fakeclaiming as bad play, then you lynch the players who do it until it no longer happens. If you don't take such steps yourself, the people who do it take it implied that it is okay to keep playing in that bad way. Lurking is in the meta and it's up to the players to punish or encourage it. As the mod of RPG, there is no basis for me to take action on how a person plays the game.
But as a co-mod of the game, I said in the QT that PX's level of activity is unacceptable. The consensus is that he gets carded. Personally, I'm not interested in letting him join my mafia games or the mafia games that I'm party to running. If people still want to let him play, then I think it needs to be at the consent of half or more of the signed up players.
I'd like to hear from Hourai about what happened with his activity seeing as he was also on modkill threat. Prior to that I was getting the odd thoughts or comment about the game from him, which at least notified me that he was still trying to participate.
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I'd like to hear from Hourai about what happened with his activity seeing as he was also on modkill threat. Prior to that I was getting the odd thoughts or comment about the game from him, which at least notified me that he was still trying to participate.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12336.0.html#new (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12336.0.html#new)
Explanation of lack of presence.
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:excaliburface:
Carding Kicking you in the face for not keeping your word and posting one in the game >_>
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It doesn't work like that Pesco. I might be able to get away with that as scum, but blindly policy lynching people as town goes against my wincon. If I'm not playing to my wincon I'm no better than the people I don't want to play with. There are levels of unacceptable, which is why I thought you created the card system in the first place. Relying solely on the players to create the environment they want is simply not possible.
It's also incredibly unfair to Affinity that you're comparing his claim with PX's general behavior. Affinity made a bad play decision, but I have no doubt that at the time of doing it he thought it would work and that it would advance his wincon. Realizing your mistake afterwards does not mean you were trolling the game at the time of making the mistake. PX has had repeated problems with trolling the game (and you can't tell me with a straight face he wasn't trolling in Darker than Black) and not playing to his wincon. These are completely different things here.
And as town I can't lynch him for it unless I think he's scum because that goes against my own wincon. You also assume that just policy lynching him will make him stop, which I disagree with in the first place.
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PX has had repeated problems with trolling the game (and you can't tell me with a straight face he wasn't trolling in Darker than Black) and not playing to his wincon.
He definitely muddled D1 of Midnight Crew Mafia, off of flavor and ActionDan's claim I would have suspected 'hey, I'm a bomb' and not insisted (in RP no less) that I have no clue what my role does. I'd say "I don't know exactly what my role does, but I suspect x". We got nowhere because of crappy play (then again, it was D1, so we probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere, but we had so little to go off of D2 other than reasons for voting PX)
tl;dr
If people still want to let him play, then I think it needs to be at the consent of half or more of the signed up players.
I don't honestly, but I'm not about to let one player ruin my fun.
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I wasn't calling out Affinity's fakeclaim. That was the first example other than absurd lurking that came to mind at the time. Affinity may have did it badly, but it definitely wasn't his intention which I think we can all agree on.
I agree with you that policy lynching doesn't further my wincon. As much as I want to do it when I play, I end up not doing it because it is simply not the optimal play for my faction, town or scum. If not to policy lynch people into dropping a play, then it's again a community thing where everyone must agree to an etiquette of not doing that play.
The card system is for systematic handling of modkills. Getting modkilled in a game means you did something unacceptable by the rules that were laid out. The idea was drawn from professional sports where players can't abuse commiting fouls in a game without any consequence. Repeatedly getting modkilled for inactivity would get the player red-carded as the system expects to do. But what we have is someone skirting the rules. In that case, reporting the player (in the MMO sense of the action) or making it public that what they're doing is game-ruining for others, also sends the message to them to stop that. The extreme solution is to bar the person from playing entirely, though we're far too nice to seriously do that.
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Considering what was said in some of the QTs and the fact that people complain about him regularly I can't really agree with that either. :V
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Pesco:
Oh, right. Add "Phantom" to the queue, please.
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I've told you guys plenty of times over to add to the mod queue while a game is ongoing so it doesn't get lost in pre-game activity.
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Didn't remember that, sorry.
Edit: Thanks for still adding it.
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Meh, probably not the best season for this but I'll /in.
At least I can't go over 400 chars. :/
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What is this? TwitterMafia?
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Okay, I knew I read 400 words so that was silly.
Still gonna help me not go overboard. :V
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What is this? TwitterMafia?
Sadly Shadoweh rejected my plan to just link to my Twitter account and tweet my latest cases. :V
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What is this? TwitterMafia?
Sadly, it already exists (http://www.epicmafia.com/lobby) :V
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You know, I've been in the mood for some irseamafia and we haven't really done it in a while. I know that the general interest is low but I was wondering if we could schedule weekly sessions (or something) in this thread and people could simply /in. With some coordination we might be able to get like 10+ people to
Quicklynch Shadoweh play some fast games over like a 2 hour stretch.
/inb4 Shut me down easy
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Sadly, it already exists (http://www.epicmafia.com/lobby) :V
Don't hate.
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/in.
I foresee terrible trouble
And I stay here just the same
Also: How hydras turnd out for me so far. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFEU947zmhI)
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Mafia is always terrible trouble. It's what makes it so fun. :V
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IT SURE IS A SHAME I DON'T HAVE ANY TIME FOR IRCMAFIA
ALSO KNOWN AS SCREW YOU GUYS
SERIOUSLY DIE VIOLENTLY.
Pesco: If you believe someone deserves punishment, punish them publically.. The card system is far superior to back-door policies where people are secretly banned.
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See This thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,9247.0.html) for examples of what your UNCOUTH posts might turn into.
oh my god that thread
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With some coordination we might be able to get like 10+ people to Quicklynch Shadoweh play some fast games over like a 2 hour stretch.
You know like how we always try get 10 for DotS? Yeah that...
Pesco: If you believe someone deserves punishment, punish them publically.. The card system is far superior to back-door policies where people are secretly banned.
Having the punishments discussed about helps with the public presentation of it.
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/in as Serela's second head
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Denied. By Policy. Shadoweh can confirm or override it.
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We have the minimum players and as far as I know PX isn't banned from mafia games. Unless the players object I've told them he can spectator-hydra. (Meaning they can talk in QT but Serela does all the posting, not don't talk about game, I do not mean to be confusing when I say words. ._. )
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Don't hate.
I don't hate, I was just playing some quick games with some spanish friends actually. I like it as a useful tool to play some mafia with friends on Skype, but yeah, other than that I don't really like it to play online alone, it doesn't really feel like you're playing with people if it's only for 10 minutes, specially when the setups are overplayed and everybody plays them the same way because it's "the right way to do so".
I'd be up for IRC mafia this weekend, but it'd be my first time playing anything on IRC so I guess I could use some guidelines :3
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You know like how we always try get 10 for DotS? Yeah that...
Having the punishments discussed about helps with the public presentation of it.
Hey they happen sometimes! Like my chess updates!... Oh.
How about. This Thursday 5-7 pm EST?
Also I don't mind Px specate-hydras. However I will not allow PX opinions~ to get in the way of mis/lynching Serela
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The QT idea is harmless as long as people remember to treat PX like someone who is actually in the game. !_!
When is this starting, considering minimal players and all?
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It'll start once Shadoweh sobers up.
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It'll start once Shadoweh sobers up.
Should we move into signups for the next game then?
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Might have to do that man :/
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Hey they happen sometimes! Like my chess updates!... Oh.
Go update, now that you've mentioned it yourself. :V
About that PX thing: Sounds good. No one will get modkilled if he doesn't post in the QT.
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I'm aiming for late Friday-early Saturday. That should give me enough time to stock up on cream liquers. I'd also like at least one more sign-up before having to make due.
Posted by: ActionDan
? on: Today at 03:33:33 pm
Oh no! Look out Pouncerela de leon! The purrposterous Dan Strider is sneaking up on you!
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The QT idea is harmless as long as people remember to treat PX like someone who is actually in the game. !_!
He'll lurk the quicktopic and get prodded for it.
I don't have anything to do on Friday so /in on the IRC mafia, it's midnight at my GMT but I usually stay up late anyway.
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Oh no! Look out Pouncerela de leon! The purrposterous Dan Strider is sneaking up on you!
X
FUCKING
D
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This reminds me of the time I sent Terezi that massive amount of boonbucks. I am the Knight of Time afterall.
Also got my physics set in last second at 4:33:33 I bet. The office people had just closed up too! The gods must be on my side today.
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This reminds me of the time I sent Terezi that massive amount of boonbucks. I am the Knight of Time afterall.
you're using proper grammar, clearly an imposter
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I am the Knight of Time afterall.
The real knight of time wouldn't have had to replace out of a mafia game.
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Afterall == after all.
Fail, gb2gradeschool.
Also, Shadoweh? Make DO, not make DUE.
##VOTE: Shadoweh
New style of posting. Using for Mafia. Do this, let's.
EDIT: Also it would please me if my profanities got filtered like that it's tr?s bien.
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YouknowifItypelikethisdoesitonlycountasoneword?
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Afterall == after all.
Fail, gb2gradeschool.
Also, Shadoweh? Make DO, not make DUE.
##VOTE: Shadoweh
New style of posting. Using for Mafia. Do this, let's.
EDIT: Also it would please me if my profanities got filtered like that it's tr?s bien.
You were far more moe whilst pretending you had floppy ears and a tail.
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YouknowifItypelikethisdoesitonlycountasoneword?
Itcountsasgettingyourselfmodkilled.
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Goddamnit.
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400 words max is easy. Just write every post as if on twitter. Kinda unfair to the people who aren't awake when the east cost is, because they don't have anyone to alternate posts with.
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At least they have a perfectly valid excuse to be vague with thoughts, aka lazy. :V
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You were far more moe whilst pretending you had floppy ears and a tail.
I can't help it, my inner tsundere wants to pose as a tsundere any time anonmafia comes up.
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/in
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I promise to post no more than once per day to test these so-called vig powers.
(/in)
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God damnit Shadoweh, how did you know Dangan Ronpa was the way to my heart and /in.
You might actually beat your other half at this rate. ;w;
also /in.
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(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9859/charmonokuma5.png) - "Look at all these townies, thinking they had a chance at hope. Despair!"
Gosh, I didn't expect this many people to actually do it! I'm still drinking writing up things and there is room for one more person, so I'll leave ooone more slot open if someone wants it. Go townies! <^_^>
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Spring break starts next week; interested in irc mafia.
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My presence will be sparse today + over the weekend. I'll be able to post but nothing detailed concrete. (twitter posts). Don't hate me! My reads will still be good!
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He's lying they totally won't.
SIGNUPS ARE NOW CLOSED. Fifteen lucky monkeys will get the chance to WIN BIG! Due to the nature of the prod system, I will continue asking for replacements in advance so they can enter as quickly as possible.
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I'd like to change the name of my game to Sane Mafia.
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/in as a late, late replacement from the 9th onwards.
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Actually, I'd like to make my game "Sanity" mafia.
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Due to a bunch of stuff piling up and the insane pace of the game, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to keep up with it and won't be able to replace in. I'll try to read up just in case there's a replacement needed in endgame and there's nobody else available to replace other than me, but unless that happens and I specifically say I want to replace in, don't count me in for now.
Over a thousand posts in a week, seriously. I spent quite a few hours reading both yesterday and today and yet I'm still on #350~
Firetruck.
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Don't worry, Vhaltz. Being completely up-to-date with the Mafia game is not a requirement to replacing into a game, and I'm not sure that being caught up here [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] [redacted].
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Sure, I can play posting retardedly laggy reads.
"X's #3XX is full of contradictions!"
"What about the other 700 posts since then?"
"I don't care, lynch him!"
"He already died"
"Oh"
I really dislike the word limit thing either way. I like posting walls.
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treat it like homework and copy other peoples posts
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I intend to drastically shorten my posts anyhow.
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Put me on the queue for White Flag Mafia.
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Not that it matters much, but should there be artifical deadlines for set-up submission for upcoming games in the queue?
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That's difficult to enforce since there's no telling exactly when a game will end. But if you guys want the people who are in the queue to have their game fully ready when it's their turn and no delaying due to unprepared setups, vote it in.
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I agree; people should have their setups ready prior to the game before theirs ending, though at the very least it would be awesome if people finished their setups prior to closing sign-ups. There's always a delay between sign-ups ready and game starting due to people "still needing to write role PMs" or "need to review setup". There's a long, long time inbetween your sign up to host a game and actually having the chance to host said game. It's a bit silly people wait until the very last moment to prepare their setups.
So yes, I vote in favour of making it mandatory that people have their shit together when it's their turn, in addition to requiring every mod to state plainly and clearly whether their game is bastard mod or not, if need be by defining what "bastard mod" means.
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Mine was ready 6 months before it was played so I'm in favor of this as well. It'd be nice if people had their setups ready when it's their turn.
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My setup has been (mostly) ready since June last year. :V
But, yeah, I think that having everything ready by the time your game comes up would be common courtesy. Or something.
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my set-up's "ready" in that it's complete, but it hasn't actually been reviewed yet. that said, i do prefer having games planned in advance
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Sounds like a good idea. Given how long the queue is, it shouldn't be a problem to get your stuff done in time. If you like procrastinating until the last minute, it doesn't matter if the last minute is when the game before yours has finished or before you need to have it done because of an artificial deadline.
Edit: I actually think the deadline should be set to before the previous game starts, with maybe a leniency period until the start of D2 in case stuff happens / the game before that ends unexpectedly early. It's not only about not having delays between games, but also about preventing last minute finishing of set ups which may lead to more oversights, even if they are reviewed. It's not like you can't still change something if you notice a glaring error before your game actually starts and if you have more time after finishing the set up, there's a higher chance of noticing such errors. If someone fails to adhere to this, the next person in queue with a finished set up should get to mod first; and if there happens to be none, I actually think it would be better to run a vanilla game first, just to prevent people from being lazy because they expect other people to be lazy, too.
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Well, considering that I probably will not have finished my setup by day 2 of Kilga's game, I'm not a fan.
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I like this idea, but there should definitely be a grace period for games currently in the queue. This makes capt. h's problem a non-issue.
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That's a given.
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If we're going through with this sort of etiquette, it takes effect from capth's game if Kilga's game goes ahead as scheduled.
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i feel as though the post restriction has had an opposite effect
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Well, at least I got one scum right. :(
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was it me please tell me it was me
Also what I said about tarring and feathering STANDS, scum or not.
That was a terrible system.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
also qt (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/e6AUhdt3TpqB)
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So, why can't you see Chaore scum again?
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Lets just nip that with you really shouldn't be starting that Capt.H.
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because bob is also scum duh?
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was it me please tell me it was me
Yeah. D2 I sent Kilga my scumteam guesses. Got you, flubbed on IHNN and Omba (though Omba, uh, kind of became obvious after that). Though I wasn't playing and you'd probably be able to convince me you weren't scum anyway.
@Pesco: I fixed the merges a bit to make Shadoweh the topic creator for both.
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Alright Chaore! Nice job outwitting everyone else helping net me my first win.
Tar and Feathering...prod/modkill is more useful.
Word restriction was a nuisance more than anything.
The post restriction was a pain but I brought that upon myself...seems like I got the worst of the bunch though.
I need to play like my D1 every day of every game.
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i feel as though the post restriction has had an opposite effect
This is less due to the post restriction and more due to the playerbase.
UK's D7 post was spot-on and it's a shame Shadowy caved so quickly on the issue.
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CAVE Shadoweh and hope she learns from the mistake.
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I think it's more than fair to say the usefulness of the wordcount restriction was reduced in inverse proportion to the number of living players. By D5 or D6 it probably should've been canned; I will consider doing this in future games with wordcounts.
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@BT: This... pretty much means no one really suspects her and probably won't be lynching her. Excellent job proving my point. Sarcasm on my own views noted.
Insult of my behavior of finding you as scum as 'ridiculous', noting not saying scummy, just trying to discredit my stance as a human being. Also goes on to discredit me more for being annoying, further avoiding any actual flaws. Trying to seem clearly right by being condescending and kind of a MAN opposed to pointing out why I'm wrong, why hello there scum!me i was not expecting to see you this game.
This is a thing that happened. :V
Thoughts on Miller+Backup Cop+Cop Enabler+Scum Tailor+Universal Backup?
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For those wondering why Bob replaced me: I was quite unhappy with the inclusion of a "voteless Townie" role, which prior to my replacing had not included any way to compensate for the handicap (ie no proxy vote). Shadoweh assured me that "others got it worse" and "it wasn't to compensate for someone's awesome role", which prompted me to decide that despite Shadoweh's claims, the game was bastard mod as hell - I said before that I did not want to play bastard mod games, and Pesco was kind enough to get a replacement in before the game even started. Kudos to Bob for that.
Rolling worse-than-functional-vanilla in a functional-vanilla game. I don't even.
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Damn o_o Poor Bard.
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Thoughts on Miller+Backup Cop+Cop Enabler+Scum Tailor+Universal Backup?
Doesn't matter since none of the roles will ever come into effect.
"voteless Townie" role, which prior to my replacing had not included any way to compensate for the handicap (ie no proxy vote).
Was this changed mid game?
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This is a thing that happened. :V
I enjoyed that little exchange for the record!
It's so fun to tear into yourself as scum when you are yourself as scum!
That was probably the last case I made actually -trying-, sadly. ;w;
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"it wasn't to compensate for someone's awesome role"
Given the presence of a chicago voter I am inclined to believe otherwise!
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I do hope we learn what BT'S boxes were, too.
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Also Bob, you could have just claimed your role early in the game and no one would have blamed you for it. There was no reason to be cagey about it; it just made you look suspicious.
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@Conq I thought the layout would make sense despite everything doing nothing, though. Why would the cop group be special as opposed to the watcher/doctor groups? It made no sense.
@Chaore you kind of weren't the only one who stopped making cases.
cut: they were google translate immunities. Shadoweh mentioned it when I died.
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Given the presence of a chicago voter I am inclined to believe otherwise!
Hey, Shadoweh's words.
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I thought the layout would make sense despite everything doing nothing, though. Why would the cop group be special as opposed to the watcher/doctor groups? It made no sense.
This is why outguessing the mod is such a bother. :V
(Also I think Shadoweh was deliberately trying to prevent symmetry; I think she said that in the graveyard?)
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A valid assumption seeing as the graveyard is nearly as big as the game thread.
Post-wise. After it was split.
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http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12533.msg822290.html#msg822290
Setup, graveyards etc.
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Actors are usually never seen in practice, so I wanted to see how long I could last without outing my role, either by "fake voting" (also traditionally Actors that voted were modkilled) and it not showing up in votecounts and players going "what is this voodoo magic?" thereby being an unecessary distraction to town, or by claiming/ explaining and possibly being cleared because not having a functional vote would be a horrible detriment to scum to push agenda and cause confusion. Thinking I was one of few that could play this straight b/c low presence, unknown meta, and conservative voting. Hopefully this game will provide some data for any setup-builders that want to use this role or variants.
@Conq: Because clearing myself via role is lame.
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Chicago voter only kicked in if a townie got picked from the event and died before the doublevote duration was up. Scum got a shot of rolecopping with the doublevote. It was more likely to end up on a random townie, but it was not guaranteed to be theirs.
Bob's role was meant to be claimed from the first post since it was provable. It's his call to not have done that.
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I had suspected this game was a mountainous variety. I'm glad to see this one went better than the last one we ran (which was, in effect, MotK Mafioso).
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I could've gotten town the win if Bob had replaced out in the end =/
Looking forward to playing in the next game without word restrictions!
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K4U's role PM is full of lies. Big Brother is not the best reality show, The Mole is. Well, was. :V
(I tease, I tease. But yeah I just ended up wandering over and reading the flips when they happened because the topic titles intrigued me. =P)
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Doesn't matter since none of the roles will ever come into effect.
Was this changed mid game?
No, it was changed almost immediately after Bardiche replaced out, but before the game began.
Also if Bob had won the popularity he would have been a doublevoting chicago hammerer. :V
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I WIN, SHADOWEH
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Also if Bob had won the popularity he would have been a doublevoting chicago hammerer. :V
ahahahahaha best role
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"I have no name's video is too correct. >:< Shh!"
Don't know why I saw through that fake but not Dan's >.>
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Admits to it and waffles on his read. The only thing that action could lead to is NOTHING FLARPING HAPPENING. Either Affinity would respond in a way that looks vaguely scummy and you could have listed him as another suspect for it, or he wouldn't and you'd still have managed to cast doubt on the wagon on me. In either case, you'd have reduced the number of supporters of your preferred lynch.
Wait, Affinity was the one who actually started the wagon on me. Uh yes, that makes sense. It doesn't matter what would become of the wagon, you'd profit from it either way.
Nice work, scum. Covering all your bases is a good idea, but doing it so plainly visible has a tendency to get you lynched. Which we should do.
Lynch this CELIBATE scum.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/24cbcxj.gif)
Also instant night resolution for investigative roles etc. will almost never be seen because it completely negates the night kill/all other night actions. Thank god you guys lynched Omba on D3 or I don't even
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As for comments on the Tar and Feather system. First of all I made you all unlimited dayvigs, why so ungrateful? ;_; Secondly. I would like to point out that if you had taken all the opportunities presented to prodvig people, you would have killed Dormio, Bob and Chaore. Lynch the lurkers. Lynch all of them. @_@ Thirdly, it was meant as a way to gain reads on people in a game where everyone was pretend vanilla special, so in that way it worked.
I am still sad Omba didn't use his night phase to troll everyone about how they didn't quicklynch him for claiming Macho Cop. :V
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Needed serela to light chaore and bob on fire at the same time
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This game was pretty dumb. I quit MotK Mafia forever until the next signups start.
(all my RELEVANT comments are probably in the graveyard somewhere)
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Why cant dormios game come sooner QQ
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No, I wouldn'tve gotten prodvigged.
Half the reason my posts went to shit was having to get them out on a strict time limit thanks to tar/feather, scum aside.
>> I payed very close attention after tarring, and was really annoyed by it since I was busy.
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See, I would've just modkilled you the moment you'd need a second prod. ^_^
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Bard understands modding.
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Bard understands modding.
I'd mod you if you get what I mean. :blush:
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Again, I'll apologize for my play.
I had a fair number of real life commitments to deal with, and when 5 pages (7 on D2!) magically spring up out of nowhere and you see that someone completely unrelated that I believed to be town has been lynched for reasons that I still cannot comprehend, I don't particularly feel like getting the read done.
In addition, I never really got to do my rereads as I was working on assignments or studying for tests. Oh well. GG anyway.
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I'm glad we lynched LLD. All the scum had 'town reads' on her (I guess besides Dormio and mayyyybe HW, but Dormio was obv scum soo)
Yeah GDI Serela you Sheep the Chicago voter and don't fight affinity. This is why outguessing the mod can work. I would have evicted Chaore in the end even after Affinity tarred and feathered BT for no good reason.
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I thought it looked pretty bad how bt was no where after we elected him. I didnt mind the tar and feather on him just as a reminder
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Time to antagonize people O YEAH! The number of Fucks have not been fulfilled.
I think I wrote this mid D1
player rage.
Dormio can suck it.
Dormio (and LLD) is also probably town but fuck that.
Conq seems like cult.
Chaore Bob, and Affinity are prolly scum. I dunno. I am simply going to fight the good fight against pricks that think they can abuse me.
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<- cult mvp imo
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Btw Serela tips for lylo.
Don't be snide to the person you are tunneling on. Even if you think they are 100% scum. About the time you were all but laughing at Bob and literally ignoring all the blatantly scummy things Chaore was doing (or the lack of writing cases /care etc.) I stopped caring about your fate.
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ffff why would you fight with people you think are town even if you know they're dead wrong :<
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Because he's scummmmmm.
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Start tunneling
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I think it's more than fair to say the usefulness of the wordcount restriction was reduced in inverse proportion to the number of living players. By D5 or D6 it probably should've been canned; I will consider doing this in future games with wordcounts.
I would be more inclined to support this view if I hadn't both watched and played in games with this exact restriction that hit winner-take-all LYLO where the restriction was never a problem, not even on that final day.
The post restriction became an issue because it was being applied to a player base that doesn't know how to be succinct. Pardon me for leaning this way, but I believe that's more on the player base than the nature of the restriction.
Don't be snide to the person you are tunneling on. Even if you think they are 100% scum. About the time you were all but laughing at Bob and literally ignoring all the blatantly scummy things Chaore was doing (or the lack of writing cases /care etc.) I stopped caring about your fate.
Would have saved words, too!
EDIT: This was posted right on the hour, thereby confirming it to be 100% fact. I win.
EDIT 2: And yes, Kamina Tenshi is fully aware of the hypocrisy in this post.
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People should not be signing up for games if they don't have time. With so many liabilities to town and such a dry D1/2, it was a painful game to play, to the point where I wanted to ragequit around D4/5 because everyone but rawr (and maybe Serela) was being lazy and no one seemed to be reading my posts except for BT (and even then he did not have the time for conversation).
I'm not sure why tarring and feathering is so disagreeable in that regard if people cannot keep up the required activity, regardless of work or school. If death is an incentive for people to post (e.g Chaore), so let it be. It would have been the same with the 24 hour prod-modkill system anyways.
On a better note, props to Shadoweh for the great flavour and all the boxes with Minoriko in them; really enjoyed it. Had fun with the post restrictions as well.
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I didn't actually realize that my commitments would become such a big issue. I, yet again, underestimated the power of real life.
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So Kilga, what's the current status of your setup? Since your game is next :o
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ffff why would you fight with people you think are town even if you know they're dead wrong :<
Helps get reads sometimes, and I hate backing down against really horrible arguments. I *did* stop tunneling on Dormio and did a 180*. But Seriously no-matter-what Shadoweh thinks LLD was a great lynch. She had a outlier role, did nothing but tunnel townies with real crap cases, lurked etc. I was very happy with that lynch.
I still have no freaking clue how votes got on me D1. or why Serela and Affinity hated each other despite their role claims. I am pissed that Shadoweh witheld info on whether I could evict. >_<
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But Seriously no-matter-what Shadoweh thinks LLD was a great lynch. She had a outlier role, did nothing but tunnel townies with real crap cases, lurked etc. I was very happy with that lynch.
I pretty much agree that since we failed to catch scum, LLD was pretty much the best D2 mislynch we could have ended up with.
This is in part because you and BT were doing nothing but tunneling her in return, though.
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Well without a massclaim I wasn't gonna lynch Omba. I *did* offer to get Chaore. And althought you and affinity were all like, 'yeah, we could lynch him' earlier, you guys wre cool with LLD lynch. (and you lost your town read on her eventually)
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Eventually I got around to thinking Serela town after his ferocity in getting his reads lynched, but ah well.
Actually I would have thought that lynching Dormio was the better option D2, because in the end LLD's lynch did not do much in terms of info anyways. Not that I pushed it at all, but yeah.
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dormio would've been a fine quicklynch as well, as dormio is always a fine quicklynch
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Dormio was pretty town. Serela just derped at the last 3 days.
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So Kilga, what's the current status of your setup? Since your game is next :o
Like I said on IRC a few days ago, I don't have anything spectacular whipped up at present, but I do have a few odds-and-ends ideas for individual things and, as such, a few default setups I can pull out at the drop of a hat should I so desire to do so.
Not starting signups so close to the end of this game, though.
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Helps get reads sometimes, and I hate backing down against really horrible arguments. I *did* stop tunneling on Dormio and did a 180*. But Seriously no-matter-what Shadoweh thinks LLD was a great lynch. She had a outlier role, did nothing but tunnel townies with real crap cases, lurked etc. I was very happy with that lynch.
The part about her role would only be relevant if you had actually waited for her to roleclaim before lynching her. :V See the scum QT for if they thought she just 'did nothing but tunnel townies'. I was quite sad that she had IHNN under the ropes and let him go to tunnel on BT. And then promised the scumteam she wouldn't forget about him after Day 1. <.<
I still have no freaking clue how votes got on me D1. or why Serela and Affinity hated each other despite their role claims. I am pissed that Shadoweh witheld info on whether I could evict. >_<
I withheld alot of info! The fact you could evict was suposed to be an easter egg, not something immediately obvious.
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meh, she had no smypathy for a backup-watcher claim, so I felt ok.
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Not starting signups so close to the end of this game, though.
When will you start signups then?
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I have a work-in-progress skeleton design for my game. Anyone care to mod with me. Conq gets first priority :brofist:
Spoilers: the game is mind-blowing (in a good way: also Bastard. but fun... I hope)
(Pm me)
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When will you start signups then?
Ideally, at some point that allows me to start the game after next weekend, since I'm going to BAMCon on May 5th and a Celtics playoff game on either the 4th or the 6th, and I don't want this game running during those things.
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If you start sign-ups now, you can start after those events regardless, rather than wait longer so people can sign up.
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I suppose I could, couldn't I? It would have to happen tonight if it happens today, though, because I don't have a thing written up and can't do so from my phone.
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Yeah, that's a good idea, considering that it can sometimes take a good while for the last few signups to trickle in.
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And by tonight I clearly meant Sunday night.
:D
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:(
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;_; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfMAdEmR2Mc)
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And by tonight I clearly meant Sunday night.
:D
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:(
##Set on Fire: Kilgamayan
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I should have tarred and feathered him for not posting over 24 hours in a row at night
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Kilga is promises and disappointment. :V
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Hey, had to move grandmother and get car to mechanic around various other commitments this weekend.
But I guess I can at least open signups with some bare minimum info! It's not like you won't have time to pull out before the game starts if I add something in later.
The following can be taken as not-going-to-change:
- 13 players
- Anonymous game because why the fuck not! This means you SIGN UP IN PRIVATE. I will not list Chelsea characters because there's exactly 13 characters to use, but you may request a specific character if you like as long as you can actually name the character (they do have names!) Note that Bunny and Chelsea are not playable.
- No hydras. Fuck off with this nonsense. If there are extenuatuing circumstances you either line up a replacement beforehand or don't play at all.
- There will be a non-trivial number of roles. The game on the whole will not be role madness/bastard mod, however. (Hi Bard you know you can actually trust me to keep my word on this <3)
- 48 hours for Day 1, 72 hours for Days >1. Nights max out at 24 hours.
- Town must lynch, scum must kill. No majority, no lynch.
There's probably more but break's over.
kgo
11/13
Characters taken:
- Nuko do Maron (giant cat/Forbidden Cattomic Plant boss)
- Halloween Alice (pumpkin girl/Pumpkin Tower boss)
- Selena Milfall (scythe girl/logo girl/Fool's Abbey midboss)
- *Septentrion Pleiades (7th Force girl/seizure girl/Septentrion boss)
- El Bobomboi (flying green girl/1st boss and don't you dare try to sequence break beyond her!)
- 7 randomizations
*Player has not officially signed up, but would like this character if they do.
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- Town must lynch, scum must kill. No majority, no lynch.
Uhh, doesn't must lynch prevent no lynches from occurring?
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He means you can't vote No Lynch.
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Oh, yeah, I can see how that is confusing. "Town must lynch" in the sense that town gets nothing if it fails to hit a majority, not that town gets a plurality lynch (or a random lynch) if they don't reach a majority.
Also I see a pile of new PMs but I can't get to them for another 45 minutes. Sorry, folks. :(
EDIT: And actually, given that, I'll change scum to not have to kill, just to balance things out.
NOT GONNA CHANGE SRSLY U GUISE
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Erpdated! Signups going fast. Glad only one person cared enough about any of the characters to pick one, I don't know what I would have done if five people wanted the same character.
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i dont even know what it is
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Everyone will find out once the anon accounts are prepped!
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I should fix the OP and get the other game in the archive. Just been too busy with academic stuff lately.
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Erpdated! Signups going fast. Glad only one person cared enough about any of the characters to pick one, I don't know what I would have done if five people wanted the same character.
I think the problem is more that no one knows what the fuck Chelsea is.
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That's what YouTube is for.
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heard of it, never played it, figured out who picked the character instantly because I know they're the only one who played it
shruuuug vOv
(EDIT: on that note the only person who picked their character is obviously me now that I've posted this)
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wtf is chelsea
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wtf is chelsea
A soccer club that is likely to win the Champions League this season, or something like that.
heard of it, never played it,
You'd play it if it was an eroge.
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aren't like half of the characters pumpkins or something? I'm not into that
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eroge with pumpkin people that play soccer?
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what has this thread become
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aren't like half of the characters pumpkins or something? I'm not into that
but aren't you a homestuck fan
how can you not like PUMPKINS
are you secretly Mint from Threads of Fate, I'm onto you
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are you secretly Mint from Threads of Fate, I'm onto you
Yes someone else who knows about that game
Also what pumpkins :V
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One spot left!
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are you secretly Mint from Threads of Fate, I'm onto you
never heard of this game, is it an eroge? i need to know if it's worth playing or not
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It's like you people never sleep.
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at least half the players joined while i was asleep. it's gonna be a slow seven days waiting for this to start
(not that i joined or anything)
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never heard of this game, is it an eroge? i need to know if it's worth playing or not
well no, but Mint does spend her entire storyline trying to take over the world (the other main character choice is the serious story)
but Dangerous Suwako-chan has a pretty eroge-like ending sequence
I've only played one game with any explicitly erotic scenes anyway (that comes to mind, at least)
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fyi serela i'm not legitimately asking you for advice on finding porn games, it was a reference to something pesco said earlier in the thread
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obviously not but I'm bored and have nothing else to do because mafia isn't ongoing so I'm responding to everything
This is obviously why Shadoweh always joins like 5 games at once, I AM SUFFERING MAFIA WITHDRAW
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obviously not but I'm bored and have nothing else to do because mafia isn't ongoing so I'm responding to everything
This is obviously why Shadoweh always joins like 5 games at once, I AM SUFFERING MAFIA WITHDRAW
Make an MS account.
Share your serela wisdom with those people.
Meanwhile I'll get some popcorn.
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Oh god.
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@HW: Actually I've played Bunny and Chelsea too. And 100% item completion'd both of them.
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maybe, but i thought you stopped joining games here
it's on my "to play" list in any case. higher than serela's hgame recs, even
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Oh god.
You know you want to.
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If you think Dangerous Suwako-chan is actually an h-game you're going to be incredibly disappointed except you'll probably never play it anyway
Also I have to admit, it's kind of tempting.
But to think that I'd actually have the effort to play two games at once is crazy.
Maybe spectator hydra on MS. ...HI SHADOWEH :D
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You know you want to.
to be fair, serela's most recent experience with a mafiascum player was when he was scum and greyICE offered to make a town case for him. i think he has potential to become a real superstar over there
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maybe, but i thought you stopped joining games here
it's on my "to play" list in any case. higher than serela's hgame recs, even
Well, yeah, I probably would have picked a character too, though I'd have to look at the list of names. I'd probably pick the tower boss. Or Dechronos. [/WIFOM]
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I can't even find the character names with google, man.
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Hey there everyone! This is a game and stuff and stuff. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygekjKm_7aQ&feature=plcp). Ich bin ein Berliner.
Also I didn't mean to join 4 games <_< I would not willingly repeat the experience.
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That game looks p cool.
I will totally fill that 13th slot /Wifom.
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Still the one spot left, but it's worth pointing out that the best non-Chelsea character in the game has now been taken. Kudos to their player for having such fine taste.
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Can i be the bunny suit?
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My research into the game yeilded this (http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/944518-bunny-must-die-chelsea-and-the-7devils/images/screen-2)
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That would be Chelsea fighting Nuko Do Maron.
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I must find this game now
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I like getting 12 signups in the first 10 hours and then a quarter of a signup in the next 36 hours.
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Solution:
kill off VT
Make another VT one of the following:
BP SK, SUPERCOP, Scum lyncher
That's what I call balance!
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Nightkill immune miller vig who can only shoot townies
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Nightkill immune miller vig who can only shoot townies
OP
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Goddamnit Conq stop peeking at my next setup!
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Nightkill immune miller vig who can only shoot townies
i would actually love to be this role provided infinite shots. it would probably need to be weak for balance though
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i would actually love to be this role provided infinite shots. it would probably need to be weak for balance though
You've played that role something like 6 times.
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not a town variant
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no capth you're mixed up, he's gotten a resurrecting role about 6 times
I'd say "jesus" but Kanaya isn't jesus, for one she was also a doctor and vig :VV Clearly Kanaya is Ultra Jesus MkII From Space
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Finished a playthrough of this game yesterday that was designed more for avatar collecting (of which I have all 13 ready to go!) than actually playing the game. Still managed to unlock the "Beat C7D with 100% items in under 2 hours" achievement from pure memory.
I love this game so much. <3
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Back down to 11. :<
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Because you took too long start.
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START THE GAME, START THE MADNESS
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Need 13! 11 is a horrible number to play with, all of 8/3, 9/2 and 8/2/1 are ridiculous to balance properly strictly due to the base numbers.
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Kilga where is my role pm. YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE ROLE PM'S. NOT THAT I AM PLAYING.
Just play the last two slots yourself, it's been done before B)
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Just play the last two slots yourself, it's been done before B)
Wait. Mod-SK faction? :V
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Clearly Kilga can just be the entire scumteam
It brings new meaning to "an informed minority vs. an uninformed majority"
(Although on a more serious note even I know that wouldn't be a good idea because he'd know all the PRs to kill and all their actions and hot damn trying to play two different slots in a specifically non-kilga and not-like-eachother style would be a thing. Mod Survivor or Mod Ghostly Possessor at the least would work out better)
NOT ENOUGH TO DO WITHOUT MAFIA IN MY DAY AAAA
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NOT ENOUGH TO DO WITHOUT MAFIA IN MY DAY AAAA
You know what to do.
You know you want to.
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You know what to do.
You know you want to.
Go kill yourself?
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Go kill yourself?
Why don't you go die already?
It's not like anyone would care.
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Dan I am holding to my previous answer that the only way that'd probably happen on MS is if someone from here wanted me as a monkey-on-their-back hydra
I mean, I can do -that-. It'd actually be sort of cool.
If I actually had to be an active player then no because 2 mafia games at once? I barely manage one on here. And hell no to skipping a MotK game to sign up for a MS game just because it'd start sooner.
ninja'd twice holy crap:HW that is the best "Quote from:___"
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dormio gets off to fictional characters talking down to him tmyk
Are you implying that that is the only thing I get off to? >:D
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okay, so you get off to ten year old fictional characters talking down to you. you're not really helping your case.
still, it would be nice if you could come up with a member title that i can't imagine you masturbating furiously to while creating, and this is coming from the guy with the hscene avatar
i wish mafiers would start so that we'd be too occupied to post stuff like this in the signups thread
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imagine you masturbating furiously
Well. This is awkward. Wanna come over?
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Are you implying that that is the only thing I get off to? >:D
[16:46:38] <Shadowehrun> Dormio likes animals cause most of them are less then 10 years old
<Serela> @whatis #motktown dormio 4
<EX-Keine-tan> Voremio
So far we've got that you're a... wait a second there's a new post lets see
ninja'd by: with a crush on HW
Actually isn't HW like 15 or 16
brb calling the police before Dormio strikes
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[10:29] <Dormoyo_Kawakami> @whatis #dots-meido dormio
[10:29] <EX-Keine-tan> "dormio" is [...] (#11) a furry
You forgot this one, Serela.
No mafia turns us into such highly mature individuals.
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I heard people doing fetish-talk.
So, about fetishes...
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:V
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I have a fetish for heatedly arguing in circles with other people and visualizing strangling them with rope; does this make me a bad person? :<
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So.... I heard you like mudkipz
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No mafia turns us into such highly mature individuals.
Someone should host Highly Mature Mafia
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there's an online kink community tailored specifically for people with your fetish conq, it's called mafiascum.net
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also: if every person who contributed to this posting clusterfuck after sign-ups started aside from UK and Kilga /ined, we'd have a full 13 right now. shame on you all
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(kind of spoiler for Sengoku Rance, I guess)
Reminds me... doesn't that girl in your avatar kind of get blown to pieces at one point?
So huhwhat has a guro fetish, huh.
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I think Omba is projecting
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This has nothing to do with Mafia. Take your disgusting foreplay elsewhere.
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I finally have something in common with Conq!
NOW WHERE IS MY FETISH. SOME PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD DEFINITELY NEED ROPE.
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This has nothing to do with Mafia. Take your disgusting foreplay elsewhere.
also: if every person who contributed to this posting clusterfuck after sign-ups started aside from UK and Kilga /ined, we'd have a full 13 right now. shame on you all
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Make a game with a vanilla setup and you have my sword, Huh What. Until then, go away with your actors and musicboxman and whatever stupid you guys like throwing at me.
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Reminds me... doesn't that girl in your avatar kind of get blown to pieces at one point?
So huhwhat has a guro fetish, huh.
Spoiler that shit!
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Spoiler that shit!
Spoilered. Although I don't think it really is a spoiler.
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Make a game with a vanilla setup and you have my sword, Huh What. Until then, go away with your actors and musicboxman and whatever stupid you guys like throwing at me.
how vanilla is vanilla? like, would graveyard levels of vanilla qualify?
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how vanilla is vanilla? like, would graveyard levels of vanilla qualify?
One Doc, One Cop, vanilla for the rest at worst. All Vanilla would be best.
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both of those set-ups are imba :T
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both of those set-ups are imba :T
And fun.
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PX, now that it's spoilered, you realize your quote is spoiling the spoiler right? :V
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All Vanilla would be best.
10 Town Sane Cops
Mafia Godfather
Mafia Nexus
Mafia Reflecting Ascetic
Open Setup
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have each person target the player below them on the list. if they get redirected or roleblocked, they claim the next day, and the game becomes a manhunt for the godfather
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Stop breaking my vanilla setups. >:<
Mod Note: Players are not told if redirected.
Change reflecting ascetic (which is kinda contradictory anyway) to just Reflector.
B|
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10 town cops that don't know their sanity. 5 sane, 5 insane.
5 millers to be determined by random chance among the cops. Millers do not know if they're millers.
1 scum godfather with cop. 1 scum insane cop.
Open setup.
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11 vanilla townies, 2 scum goons
open set-up
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11 vanilla townies, 2 scum goons
open set-up
It'll never catch on.
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2 Dormios, 1 Conq
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2 Dormios, 1 Conq
i like where this is going, please follow up with more
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1 Town Dayvig vs 1 Scum Dayvig vs 1 Dayvig SK
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Got 13! Will try to send role PMs out tonight, though no guarantees (still away from home right now).
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Oh, uh, take me off the hosting list. I'm too busy to really do a good game I think.
EDIT: Actually, put me on hold, and change the theme to "Super High School Level Dangan Ronpa Mafia"
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DON'T BULLY NO LYNCH-TAN
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but Edible, No Lynch was scum.
It clearly was to blame for the N2 shenanigans.
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No Lynch died for everyone's sins.
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I HAVE NO REGRETS.
THE REIGN OF NO LYNCH-TAN HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO ITS KNEES.
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It's time for Asylum mafia signups!
I'll take as many people as I can get, but this is a 13 person set-up. So choose your post restriction (or submit one you want more to me for approval), and let the games begin!
1. Omba
2. No Name
3. BT
4. Rawr
5. Serela
6. NekoNekoRex
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8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
Restrictions:
Dr. Gregory House (House)
You must diagnose your fellow players with obscure diseases. You must also tell your fellow players about how you broke into their houses/hired private investigators to dig up their dirty secrets/etc. You should be surly with no bedside manner what so ever. Accuse patients (players) of lying and be a jerk to the other players.
Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story)
You are a space ranger from the Intergalactic Alliance, stationed in the Gamma Quadrant of Sector 4 (wikipedia). You have recently landed on a strange alien planet full of giants. You must say "To infinity... and beyond!" and you must insist you are not a toy. Be comically serious - ex. set your lasers from stun to kill, and panic when/if your helmet gets damaged or removed. If someone says something sarcastic or metaphorically, take it completely seriously and literally (ex. if someone claims doctoc, say "I don't believe that man's ever been to medical school!"). Falling with style is recommended, etc.
The Parser (Every Text Adventure Ever)
You should play mafia as though you were the parser in a text adventure. Every time a townie writes a line beginning with the ">" symbol, you must quote it and respond. You should begin every post by quoting a previous and forming your post as a response to that "input", whenever possible. You must end your posts with ">". Whenever talking about your own opinions, do it in the third person, as though the other townies were talking to an Non Player Character. Alternatively, you can tell the players your opinions using the second person.
Examples:
Method 1 - 3rd person (you are player Y)
"Y says 'Hey X, your lurking out a storm over there, you want to talk to us a bit?
##Vote X'
You get the impression that Y's top scum pick is X.
>_"
Method 2 - 2nd person
"You notice that X is lurking out the day. You decide to press him on that point. You say 'Hey X, your lurking out a storm over there, you want to talk to us a bit?
##Vote X'
You think that X is the scummiest person alive right now.
>_"
Lamer - You include the following sentence in all posts: "I am a lamer."
Vote the mod - The mod knows who the scum is. But he's not telling you! You must vote to lynch the mod once per day.
Why do you hate my restrictions ;_; - Once per day, you must make a large, angry post about how post restrictions are evil. Extra points if it's over the top and includes non-sequiter rambling that mentions kittens
GLaDOS - Hello! And welcome to the Apeture Science Enrichment Center! You are GLaDOS, a malfunctioning AI programmed to test. You must talk about deadly neurotoxin, and how you are going to kill players with the deadly neurotoxin. You must talk about testing. You may not talk about cake more than 3 times a day, but you must also talk about cake (this is for my sanity, I'm tired of cakes being lies). You should be redundant. You should also insult players in a passive agressive, yet preferably funny way. You should talk about the companion cube.
Basically, roleplay as GLaDOS.
Lelouch Vi Britannia - You have a god complex. You should be overdramatic. You should use chess metaphores poorly. You should refer to yourself as Zero, rather than Lelouch. You should plan things out, and treat the game as a war (think in terms of military and tactical advantages). This is your theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG8nwqxU9Sc
Light Yagami - You are Justice! YOU ARE GOD! You must write the names of known criminals in your posts several times a day. You must take a potato chip and eat it with as much drama as possible. You must come up with insanely overcomplicated plots to catch scum, often in ways that make no sense within the mechanics of the game. Useful resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims
Psycho stalker - You must form a relationship with another player that includes obsessive love and a strong desire to torture and kill them in the most painful and vividly described manner possible. You should pick a new player each day. The player must be alive.
[23:51] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> Roleplay restriction: "The John Madden"
[23:51] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> Every post must contain:
[23:52] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> - At least one incredibly obvious statement, such as "town's gonna want to lycnh scum if they're looking to win the game"
[23:52] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> - At least one plug for Tinactin
[23:52] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> - At least one plug for Brett Favre
[23:52] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> - At least one image of you scribbling unintelligibly with a telestrator
They're all out to get me! - Hi! You live in Roswell, New Mexico! You were abducted by aliens. Now the government is trying to shut you up! You must repeatedly talk about aliens and how the secret service is coming for you and how everyone wants to kill you for the valuable information you possess! Have fun!
Edited 05-19-2012 12:08 PM
Post Restriction: Hi I'm scum please lynch me
You must lie about your role daily. You may not claim the same fake role twice. You must claim scum daily. You should also say "WHY ME OVER X" when voted, use TOWNIE RAGE, chainsaw defend someone, etc.
It's highly advised that you quote a huge wall of text and reply with one line, especially "me too".
Yugi
Post as if you have split personality disorder
Yugi posts should mention friendship a lot - pretty much constantly. They should include a lot of standing up for your friends, even if the situation is unappropriate for it. They should be unassertive, and not particularly confident.
Yami posts should mention the heart of the cards a lot. They should have boundless and absolute confidence. They should also focus on card game metaphores a lot.
When in doubt, you can always post a picture of which one the post should represent.
This post restriction has been passed down the Armstrong line for generations!
Post in the style of Alex Louis Armstrong. Be overdramatic, emotional, and grandstand. Constantly tell players all the things been passed down your line for generations: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Louis_Armstrong. Losing your shirt is kind of a given with this restriction.
Da-ze
Post as though you were Marisa Kirisame. ##Steal both items and scumhunting techniques, lie, use ##Master Spark, feel free (but not required) to say Da-ze, break into other people's homes, collect mushrooms, and insist you are an ordinary magician.
I. AM. BATMAN.
Post as if you were Adam West. You must pretend you are a super hero, use Bat gear such as the bat shark repellant, etc. Also, post using BAT STUFF at inappropriate times and compulsively refer to a townie of your choice as either "sidekick" or "robin", and another townie as "Alfred". The goal here isn't to come across as Bat man, but to come across as a crazy actor who thinks he's bat man.
You must use the terms "batmobile" and "bat cave" at least once, and you need to make your own sound effects.
Might Guy (Naruto)
You must have an overwhelming amount of enthusiasm, even for trivial matters, to such an extent that it becomes rediculous. You must use the "Dynamic Entry". You must go on about the "Flames of Youth", and you must use the "Nice guy" pose (in the form of a picture - here's an example: http://media.photobucket.com/image/might%20guy/himino_hoshigaki/Might_Guy.jpg?o=5). You should refer to yourself as "Konoha's Sublime Green Beast of Prey". You must have trouble remembering your fellow players and you should go out of your way to state extremely obvious things about them. Try to emulate Might Guy's personality and mannerisms. You must make incredibly obvious statements.
Resource: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Might_Guy
You have received the post restriction: My legend began in the 12th Century
Post in the style of Soul Eater's Excalibur speech. Must include calling people fool or idiot, egotistical non-sequitur rambling and repeated mentions of what your day starts with or when your legend began.
Post restriction time!
You have received: False Prophet. You must post as if you thought you were Jesus. This means preaching morality, being opposed to lynches and night kills, and discussing repentance and mercy at great length. You may refer to lynching scum as casting out demons.
Your post restriction is: Yoda
Post with your verbs before your nouns, and teach your fellow townies the way of the force! Use the force to find scum.
Post restriction: Pinkamena Diane Pie
?Wow. I didn?t expect this one to be used. Welp, throw parties, spam the thread with ponies, go off on wild non-sequiturs and have the time of your life. Boundless energy and an uncrushable spirit are your trademarks, so remember this is a party game, and throw a party!
Eustace Bagge
You probably know the deal here. Be a crotchety old man. Be cruel, say ?stupid dog?, be all around pessimistic and you get the general idea. Cruelty is encouraged.
Gaston (from Beauty and the Beast)
You must be very shallow and very self-centered. Constantly rub in other people?s faces how wonderful you are for your superficial qualities, such as how much hair you have on your chest. Remember, at the core your better than all of them, because you are a perfect specimen of man. Intelligence and morality are for wimps.
Statler and Waldorf
You must heckle your fellow townies, in a two person format. Your posts should be formatted like two people talking to eachother.
Example:
Statler: That wasn't bad.
Waldorf: It wasn't very good either.
Both: Dohohoho
Post restriction: Philosophy of a hated Meme
Inspired by Koishi Hell 2's last spellcard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSs35LmMMPs&feature=related
You must include at least one meme per post. You may not quote the same meme twice. Useful resource: http://knowyourmeme.com/
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I am unilaterally signing Edible up and assigning him John Madden because he's the only person on this website I trust to do it correctly.
If anyone chooses Pinkie Pie I cannot guarantee that my finger will not slip and I will not accidentally delete the game after it is over.
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I and RPG fully endorse Kilga's decision.
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If anyone chooses Pinkie Pie I cannot guarantee that my finger will not slip and I will not accidentally delete the game after it is over.
I support this :V
No really, I was against that PR :V
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Is it anon?
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I'm probably going to regret this, but...
/in for Psycho Stalker
Edit: Something you forgot to mention: Is this game bastard and/or role madness?
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if it's not anon then /in as vote the mod.
I almost did that, twice, during Shadoweh's game anyway :V
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Is it anon?
Edit: Something you forgot to mention: Is this game bastard and/or role madness?
Neither
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It is not anon.
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Oh.
/in as Yugi because
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I feel dumb for sending a pm then
Oh wait i can totally do house gdi too many choices
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I'm probably going to regret this, but...
/in for Psycho Stalker
If you have any doubts about this (Since it looks like you might but iunno, so I figured, just in case!), I will take Psycho Stalker automatically no questions asked. Fo srs, if Omba decides not to take it, capth, just give it to me without bothering to ask for clarification from me.
In the event that Omba does not have any doubts, the other one I like is Hi I'm Scum Please Lynch Me, so I'm okay with having that one. I already do half of that on a regular basis anyway
Also me and HW mentioned hydra'ing this game to eachother in irc yesterday but I don't know how much of it was serious or not; basically, HW doesn't want to sign up for a slot, and I'm going to be out of town June 14th~18th, but maybe "mostly-spectator hydra", so :shrug: iunno if you're fine with hydras then eventually HW will probably clarify feelings on this. I barely even remember how the conversation went.
edit:If it's not clear, /in :V
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If you have any doubts about this (Since it looks like you might but iunno, so I figured, just in case!), I will take Psycho Stalker automatically no questions asked. Fo srs, if Omba decides not to take it, capth, just give it to me without bothering to ask for clarification from me.
I have no doubts about taking this specific PR, I just have a vague feeling I'll regret /inning for this game in general. Although, with that post restriction, it can't be -that- bad.
At least not for me. :V
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I don't have anything against hydras, but I'm not fond of them until after I fill up my playerslots. Ask me again when I hit 13.
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Dr. Gregory House (House)
You must diagnose your fellow players with obscure diseases. You must also tell your fellow players about how you broke into their houses/hired private investigators to dig up their dirty secrets/etc. You should be surly with no bedside manner what so ever. Accuse patients (players) of lying and be a jerk to the other players.
Did your psych forget to diagnose you with Ganser syndrome when you were walking around in diapers or were you always just this dumb? I fucking swear if you keep going on about this I'll zip on over to your place and upload copies of your diary in my next post so everyone can see how much of a [INSERT MENTAL DISORDER HERE] you are and I can stop wasting my time with you.
(Yeah I think this PR is a bad idea all things considered :L
It's basically the opposite of Polite Mafia)
Not to mention it'll just look like you're roleplaying [REDACTED]
That said the sheer amount of ad hom allowed for by this role is hilarious (though I'm not sure if in a good or bad way)
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Post Restriction Mafia works better if people don't pick their restrictions beforehand, imo. Half the fun is figuring out who has what restriction!
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:iagreewithbardiche:
But I guess it'll be an interesting experiment to let people have post restrictions they actually chose for once, haha.
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You could still have people choose the restrictions but have them pick through PM.
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Actually, I just wanted to run a game with roleplay in it :D
Sure, whatever. If anyone who's already picked wants to change, then PM me. I'll leave 'em blank for now. Still choosing your restriction, but PM me your choice.
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Hrm. Normally almost all the signups are in the first like 8 hours or so, but we've only got 5. When you think about it, a lot of the regular players are either A.In the game's modding team, B.Really busy around now (Heck, even -I- have 4 days I can't be around), or C.Don't want to play this setup. The first two are taking out like 5~7 people who normally make up a signup list, and motk doesn't exactly have a really large playerbase :V
<Vhaltz> because even if Bard and Huh What signed up, and even if Pesco and Conq and Dormio signed up despite being really busy, that'd still only be 10 players
Pretty much, it looks like right now we'd be best off having a mini-game of like 7~9 players, as anything that requires more looks about impossible to garner the players for at the moment. Since capth's signups haven't actually been open very long, this might seem premature, but most of the other normal players not signed up already have voiced they can't join, so if you think about it...
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If you don't mind me being superbusy and therefore posting maybe once every two days, I could /in.
Alternatively, could the Shadormio hydra finally happen after a year of plotting?
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<Vhaltz> because even if Bard [...] signed up,
Not happening I'm afraid. I suicided last game because I was unexpectedly busy and this trend looks to continue for the foreseeable future.
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Yeah, that was the point :V Even if all these really busy people signed up we still wouldn't have near enough players.
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if we have a 9p mini then i want to be the host again! i like designing set-ups for minis
ps: vhaltz why is your ran avatar not talking down to the reader. get with the program
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ps: vhaltz why is your ran avatar not talking down to the reader. get with the program
You speak as though one that is naught but a simple commoner could master the ways of (not-so-)subtly veiling insults under the guise of a forum title.
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Jeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuust throwing myself back into the mod queue.
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/in
Not sure what my restriction will be yet. I'll PM I guess
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If I try to play mafia Kitten4u will literally rip the keyboard from my hands. ;-;
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If I try to play mafia Kitten4u will literally rip the keyboard from my hands. ;-;
why? Also this game is gonna be good. Believe me.
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Actually, I just wanted to run a game with roleplay in it :D
A game of mafia is already roleplay without needing to force it.
Jeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuust throwing myself back into the mod queue.
No jumping the queue via selfcest.
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ps: vhaltz why is your ran avatar not talking down to the reader. get with the program
Your avatars have subtle condescent, mine has not-so-subtle AtE. I mean how can you even think of lynching something that cute?
Finding an avatar that's both cute and subtly condescending should be a challenge though, I'll add that to my to-do list.
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I mean how can you even think of lynching something that cute?
It's surprisingly easy, actually.
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Dormio knows his waifu too well to know that you're an imposter.
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I like to lynch people with cute avatars because cuteness is a form of AtE and therefore scummy. :ohdear:
I like to lynch people with grotesque avatars more though for the sake of sanity (watermelon face comes to mind).
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But the watermelon face was awesome.
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I like to lynch people with cute avatars because cuteness is a form of AtE and therefore scummy. :ohdear:
I like to lynch people with grotesque avatars more though for the sake of sanity (watermelon face comes to mind).
In that case, when my game comes up I'll already have you down as voting against Sereliest Mafia, the game where you pick anonyaccounts via a list of Serelatars, which would probably be your worst nightmare (A game full of Serela is probably a nightmare for everyone anyway though)
since I'll probably let people vote out for Psycho Prophecy 2 or that one, they're both like half-made setups atm (And since I have doubts on whether anyone other then maybe Shadoweh would vote for Sereliest Mafia in the first place), will probably work on them once I'm done with highschool in a week
Also I'm totally going to switch back to watermelon avatar for the next game now :smug: Except probably not really.
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A game of mafia is already roleplay without needing to force it.
Point?
Personally, I like to lynch people that change their avatars to cute ones right before the game (especially if it's after the role PM's go out).
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Finding an avatar that's both cute and subtly condescending should be a challenge though, I'll add that to my to-do list.
I think I found one, the face details don't seem so clear when shrinked down in size but she's definitely belittling you.
Either way I'll be keeping this one for a while, it's sketchy but I like it.
-definitely not spamming the singups thread-
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Do the post restrictions in the game serve any mechanical purpose?
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Do the post restrictions in the game serve any mechanical purpose?
Nope. Just for fun.
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And that's forcing the roleplay instead of just telling them they're a ceratin character in their role PM and letting them act it out if they choose to. The innate roleplay element of mafia is already there when the player tries to be town or scum.
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And that's forcing the roleplay instead of just telling them they're a ceratin character in their role PM and letting them act it out if they choose to. The innate roleplay element of mafia is already there when the player tries to be town or scum.
I agree it's forcing the roleplay. Gives players an excuse to act out something completely new.
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since I'll probably let people vote out for Psycho Prophecy 2 or that one, they're both like half-made setups atm (And since I have doubts on whether anyone other then maybe Shadoweh would vote for Sereliest Mafia in the first place), will probably work on them once I'm done with highschool in a week
I-I have no idea what you mean! It's not like I'm practicing my Serela impression or anything..
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I think I found one, the face details don't seem so clear when shrinked down in size but she's definitely belittling you.
Either way I'll be keeping this one for a while, it's sketchy but I like it.
-definitely not spamming the singups thread-
I thought one of the conditions was 'cute'. Why did you pick Kanako?
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And that's forcing the roleplay instead of just telling them they're a ceratin character in their role PM and letting them act it out if they choose to. The innate roleplay element of mafia is already there when the player tries to be town or scum.
Well, he did include some "restrictions" that involve no RP at all, so if someone doesn't want to do it, he can just forgo the RP entirely.
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I thought one of the conditions was 'cute'. Why did you pick Kanako?
Precisely because it's cute for Kanako standards.
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"Cute for Kanako standards" is an image completely devoid of Kanako.
You could always try the mountain goddess at the top of this page if you want cute and condescending.
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I've got a Yukari one that fits the criteria perfectly, but won't be switching to it until I tire of this one, finding cute images looking condescending is harder than you'd think.
After that one I'm pretty certain I'll just try to find some other artists I like that don't draw adorable and aren't Ogami Kazuki now that most of the stuff he draws is NSFW.
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Kilga would say
"Cute for Yukari standards" is an image completely devoid of Yukari
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It's subjective and stuff.
Plus if it's cute for me but not for you that means I won't get lynched due to avatar AtE which was part of the point so that's great.
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Cute avatar to get lynched eh?
Now I know how to play as a jester :V
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(http://r27.imgfast.net/users/2716/24/86/48/avatars/16-51.jpg)
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(http://r27.imgfast.net/users/2716/24/86/48/avatars/16-51.jpg)
Now why did I think of high heels the moment I saw this picture...?
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Now why did I think of high heels the moment I saw this picture...?
So you you can stab that cat with a pair of them?
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Since it doesn't look like capt.h's game is going to get enough sign-ups anytime soon, I suggest concurrently doing sign-ups for a mini game if anyone still wants to host one.
If capt.h somehow gets enough sign-ups before the mini game is full, we could then just do his as was planned, otherwise do the mini first.
That should significantly decrease the down-time.
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No objections here, but I'm not going to mod the mini.
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HW, let's co-host a mini. 9 players, vanilla everywhere.
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if you're serious and the higher ups are okay with this then i'd be down with that
by vanilla everywhere do you mean Bard's Second Vanilla Mafia or just a low amount of roles?
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if you're serious and the higher ups are okay with this then i'd be down with that
by vanilla everywhere do you mean Bard's Second Vanilla Mafia or just a low amount of roles?
I just don't have the people I need to run my game, and I don't think I can get them for another two weeks. If you can get permission from the higher ups for a mini, I won't object.
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We could just take a two week break also.
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I want in on this co-hosting thing
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We could just take a two week break also.
That sounds completely unnecessary. :V
Also, a vanilla game is great idea.
In any case, /in if this mini game actually happens.
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In any case, /in if this mini game actually happens.
ditto although still have to worry about those 4 days I'll be, if not gone, just barely available, so if anyone who does not wish to sign up otherwise would like to hydra and that's fine, then, yeah.
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>Get Serela hydra
Are we supposed to encourage or discourage people?
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Well, I wasn't planning on playing, but I wouldn't be opposed to spectator hydraing with Serela in a mini.
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There was already a request to run an intermission game from a while ago. The relevant parties to it need to come and confirm/deny it.
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Yo, wassup. Intermission, someone said?
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I'm down with anything myself really
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Well Conq and I had an intermission setup, but if Conq isn't here, I guess HW can feel free to go ahead?
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There was already a request to run an intermission game from a while ago. The relevant parties to it need to come and confirm/deny it.
Looks like it's all settled then.
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Well Conq and I had an intermission setup, but if Conq isn't here, I guess HW can feel free to go ahead?
Uh well first of all it would be remiss to declare this setup as anything but Dormio's baby; I only helped along with some of the development. :D
Second of all the setup in question is a Highly Experimental Setup with Bastard Elements and is a far cry from a vanilla game (not to say there's no vanilla, but just saying it's not a straightforward open vanilla game). It was designed basically as both a psychological experiment and as a lighthearted stress-free venue where the players could focus more on having fun with the game than anything else. (Basically it was designed in mind as a break game as opposed to a regular setup).
Edit: That said it's still just a mafia game and would be played as such if there was any question about that. But yeah if the setup is going to be run, I'd like to see how much interest there is for it vs something open like F11, since I know there are a multitude of players who don't like this sort of thing.
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Another thing to note is that the experimental setup can be adjusted for as many players as need be, but having at least 7 would be preferred.
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Minigame intermission is pretty much the only time break setups are a good idea outside of irc mafia (Where they're only good for absolute joke value due to how irc mafia is), so I'd be really interested in that. I'm fine with a vanilla game to, so either or. Also yes, Capth and me have discussed the hydra thing in pms, so if whoever ends up modding is fine with that then yep.
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I don't really care either way; so long as we get some sort of mafia game in the near future, I'm happy.
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You guys could just start signups for both, see which one gets more /ins and go with it.
There's a number of conditions that have to be met that I'm pretty sure won't happen, but I might be able to /in into a mini.
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Hey, if an intermission game is already signed up for/reserved or whatever, far be it from me to encroach on that.
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i'm fine with conq/dormio hosting a mini but i don't really feel like playing
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so uh.
???
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so uh.
???
this
If a mini happens I'd play in that, if not I can wait until capt h's setup goes.
I'd still like to know what goes on though.
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Dude.
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Conq is totes being lazy.
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Sorry; I thought Dormio had put up the signups already and I've had spotty access. :ohdear:
Right, so game info. As we said before, this was designed as a break game. As such, it is run using an experimental setup and involves elements that could be considered bastard modding (tl;dr everything is fair game). Balance is not guaranteed in any way, shape, or form. In any case, it should be a quick and fun game! Because mafia is a game, right? It's all about having fun!
Also, what do people think about a 48 hour deadline?
Press /in to start
Players:
1) I have no name
2) Serela
3) Omba
4) NekoNekoRex
5)
6)
7)
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/in
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/in
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Sorry; I thought Dormio had put up the signups already and I've had spotty access. :ohdear:
I told you that all you had to do was copy paste. >:<
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Once again, /in
and /in, for good measure.
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inning and winning
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inning
winning
LOGIC ERROR
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MoTK Mafia is dead, long live MoTK Mafia.
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it's not like finals are going on now or anything.
I finished this time last month :V
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/in
jk /out
i'd be more interested in joining if you defined "experimental", when i hear "experimental" with no other details given i assume "holy shit 20 cults and scum recruiters running around only every one is town and wins by no lynching with the exception of a serial killer who thinks he's a doc"
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Dormio would make an amazing Serial Doctor.
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Protect all the scum. All of them.
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i'd be more interested in joining if you defined "experimental", when i hear "experimental" with no other details given i assume "holy shit 20 cults and scum recruiters running around only every one is town and wins by no lynching with the exception of a serial killer who thinks he's a doc"
Hmm, well I suppose I'll say it's more "balanced" than the typical IRC setup, if that means anything. That said, since it looks like we're going to have a 5-player setup it's basically going to be a 2-day game with questionable balance just because...yeah 5-person setups. *Memories of various vengeful mafia games.*
...I guess we could always run one of those. :V
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back from the future
>_> <_<
/in
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back from the future
Thats called cheating
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/in
L-1
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I suppose
/insert quarter
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Suddenly, /ins.
Does anybody in want to hydra? I'd mostly be spectating (or should) but it'd be nice to have something fun to do when on study breaks.
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Suddenly, people appear. :o
Signups will be continue to be open until I get back to the thread in like...16 hours, at which point we'll send out the role pms immediately (at least that's the plan).
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I'm fine with hydra. I'm so lonely without people to talk to :(
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Blessed is the mind that is too small for doubts.^^;
However, /in, for the glory of the Imperium!
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...If we have enough people, I'd rather be a sub. I don't know how much time I'll be able to dedicate to this with 6 final exams in two weeks.
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Thats called cheating
Nonsense!
Just because I know that The independent 13th party with a 1/13 chance of winning winds up pulling out a glorious victory from the ashes of defeat doesn't mean I'll spoil who it is!
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Wait a second. That will totally be the mechanics for this Dormio + Conq bastard baby
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Players:
1) I have no name
2) Serela
3) Omba
3.5) Omba
4) NekoNekoRex
5) ActionDan
6) PX (with Vhaltz as non-posting hydra head)
7) Dorian G.
Standby:
1) BT
I'll take BT's post as indicating he wants to be a replacement then. This look about right? Game should be up by later today.
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If anyone desperately needs my sage advice, I guess I'm fine with being a hydra if still possible. Stupid forum timeouts not letting me post this before finalisations.
Also, I can replace in in a pinch, but only as a last resort.
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requesting to be an informed observer if conq is cool w/ that
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that sounds just peachy, although omba has the advantage controlling both the thrid slot and the three and one half slot.
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Just a reminder to everyone, including my co-mods, that signups for Asylum mafia are still open.
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Repost and reconfirm the setups; no one wants to have to look back, and you should recheck availability in any case.
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Can somebody link to the post with the requirements for running a game and the card system and all that?
Considering how long it'll take to get there if I end up wanting to mod a game, I might want to get to looking into it.
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Consider the signups for capt.h's game cleared. It's been too long.
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It's once again time for Asylum mafia signups. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11883.msg834713.html#msg834713)
Roleplay if you want, I'm not going to force it.
The Copy/Paste from the mod QT:
Rules (Mostly copy and pasted from Shadoweh?s game)
- Town must lynch (no majority = random lynch)
- Scum must kill every night.
- Days will last 72 hours (3 days). Nights are 24 hours.
- No extensions.
- No editing posts.
- Votes must have ## in front and be bolded (EG: ##Vote Pesco) Unvotes are appreciated but unnecessary.
- Play to win.
- Don't be lame.
- Don't quote any private communications (role PMs, questions you asked the mod etc.). Paraphrasing is fine. If you're unsure if your paraphrase comes to close to quoting ask a mod.
- You cannot talk about the game outside the thread.
- Twilight is the phase between when a hammer has been dropped and Night is announced. Town may continue to converse until the flip and Night is declared.
Rules that are not quite from Shadoweh?s game (may be copy-pasted from Kilga?s game):
- Parties with private communication (e.g. scum) may communicate only during the night phase or prior to the beginning of day 1.
- Any posts deemed to be in violation of the poster?s post restrictions will have their content edited by Google Translate.
- All rules and all flips can be trusted to not be lies.
- Everyone must post once every 24 hours. If they do not they will be prodded for activity. Not responding to a prod or repeated prods may result in a modkill. Extenuating circumstances may be given respite if I know about them in advance.
- All flips will include all relevant role information EXCEPT for any quicktopic links included in the role
- Town may no-lynch only via majority vote
Below are partial role PMs for the informed minority and the uninformed majority alignments:
Hello! And welcome to Asylum mafia! Your role name is [REDACTED]
[REDACTED]
You are Orderly aligned. It?s your job to reign in all these rowdy inmates by any means necessary! Once per night you may submit your factional kill using the ##Lock up 'playname' command. You may communicate with other members of your alignment here: [REDACTED]
You win when your faction outnumbers the inmate faction, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
Hello! And welcome to Asylum mafia! Your role name is [REDACTED]
[REDACTED]
You are inmate aligned. You want to get rid of all these pesky orderlies, and you?re willing to Lock up any number of inmates to achieve this goal! Your faction wins when all threats to your faction are eliminated.
Playerlist:
1. NekoNekoRex
2. Omba
3. Dr. Rawr
4. No Name
5. Bardiche
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
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Is this the same game that had post restrictions?
Consider me still in I guess
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Is this the same game that had post restrictions?
Yes.
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Am I still allowed to use the one I submitted?
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Am I still allowed to use the one I submitted?
Yes. Roleplay is encouraged, but no longer required.
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inb4 Best Idea setup gets recycled right away.
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innnnnnn
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I am sad that more people are not lining up to play this fantastically balanced and flavorful game. Truly it will be a game of the century.
/plug
Um. In contrast, my game is probably not balanced and I would love for someone to help me out, because truly, it will be a game of the century.
/plug
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I /inned the current game a while back, I'm still going to remain /inned.
Um. In contrast, my game is probably not balanced and I would love for someone to help me out, because truly, it will be a game of the century.
/plug
Is that a co-mod request? I'd like to try to get some experience modding, so if so I'm willing to do that.
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ok I guess that is fine. I'll probably need one experienced reviewer as well.
IHNN I will give you access to the mod QT soonish as long as you are sure you want to co-mod. (I could still use all the cannon fodder [in terms of player count] I can get)
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I'm sure I want to co-mod, yes.
Can someone re-post the current signups for the current game? Digging back some 100 posts for 1 particular one is a bit of a pain.
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It's time for Asylum mafia signups!
I'll take as many people as I can get, but this is a 13 person set-up. So choose your post restriction (or submit one you want more to me for approval), and let the games begin!
1. Omba
2. No Name
3. BT
4. Rawr
5. Serela
6. NekoNekoRex
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
Restrictions:
Dr. Gregory House (House)
You must diagnose your fellow players with obscure diseases. You must also tell your fellow players about how you broke into their houses/hired private investigators to dig up their dirty secrets/etc. You should be surly with no bedside manner what so ever. Accuse patients (players) of lying and be a jerk to the other players.
Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story)
You are a space ranger from the Intergalactic Alliance, stationed in the Gamma Quadrant of Sector 4 (wikipedia). You have recently landed on a strange alien planet full of giants. You must say "To infinity... and beyond!" and you must insist you are not a toy. Be comically serious - ex. set your lasers from stun to kill, and panic when/if your helmet gets damaged or removed. If someone says something sarcastic or metaphorically, take it completely seriously and literally (ex. if someone claims doctoc, say "I don't believe that man's ever been to medical school!"). Falling with style is recommended, etc.
The Parser (Every Text Adventure Ever)
You should play mafia as though you were the parser in a text adventure. Every time a townie writes a line beginning with the ">" symbol, you must quote it and respond. You should begin every post by quoting a previous and forming your post as a response to that "input", whenever possible. You must end your posts with ">". Whenever talking about your own opinions, do it in the third person, as though the other townies were talking to an Non Player Character. Alternatively, you can tell the players your opinions using the second person.
Examples:
Method 1 - 3rd person (you are player Y)
"Y says 'Hey X, your lurking out a storm over there, you want to talk to us a bit?
##Vote X'
You get the impression that Y's top scum pick is X.
>_"
Method 2 - 2nd person
"You notice that X is lurking out the day. You decide to press him on that point. You say 'Hey X, your lurking out a storm over there, you want to talk to us a bit?
##Vote X'
You think that X is the scummiest person alive right now.
>_"
Lamer - You include the following sentence in all posts: "I am a lamer."
Vote the mod - The mod knows who the scum is. But he's not telling you! You must vote to lynch the mod once per day.
Why do you hate my restrictions ;_; - Once per day, you must make a large, angry post about how post restrictions are evil. Extra points if it's over the top and includes non-sequiter rambling that mentions kittens
GLaDOS - Hello! And welcome to the Apeture Science Enrichment Center! You are GLaDOS, a malfunctioning AI programmed to test. You must talk about deadly neurotoxin, and how you are going to kill players with the deadly neurotoxin. You must talk about testing. You may not talk about cake more than 3 times a day, but you must also talk about cake (this is for my sanity, I'm tired of cakes being lies). You should be redundant. You should also insult players in a passive agressive, yet preferably funny way. You should talk about the companion cube.
Basically, roleplay as GLaDOS.
Lelouch Vi Britannia - You have a god complex. You should be overdramatic. You should use chess metaphores poorly. You should refer to yourself as Zero, rather than Lelouch. You should plan things out, and treat the game as a war (think in terms of military and tactical advantages). This is your theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG8nwqxU9Sc
Light Yagami - You are Justice! YOU ARE GOD! You must write the names of known criminals in your posts several times a day. You must take a potato chip and eat it with as much drama as possible. You must come up with insanely overcomplicated plots to catch scum, often in ways that make no sense within the mechanics of the game. Useful resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims
Psycho stalker - You must form a relationship with another player that includes obsessive love and a strong desire to torture and kill them in the most painful and vividly described manner possible. You should pick a new player each day. The player must be alive.
[23:51] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> Roleplay restriction: "The John Madden"
[23:51] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> Every post must contain:
[23:52] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> - At least one incredibly obvious statement, such as "town's gonna want to lycnh scum if they're looking to win the game"
[23:52] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> - At least one plug for Tinactin
[23:52] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> - At least one plug for Brett Favre
[23:52] <@Reisen-Udongein-Inaba> - At least one image of you scribbling unintelligibly with a telestrator
They're all out to get me! - Hi! You live in Roswell, New Mexico! You were abducted by aliens. Now the government is trying to shut you up! You must repeatedly talk about aliens and how the secret service is coming for you and how everyone wants to kill you for the valuable information you possess! Have fun!
Edited 05-19-2012 12:08 PM
Post Restriction: Hi I'm scum please lynch me
You must lie about your role daily. You may not claim the same fake role twice. You must claim scum daily. You should also say "WHY ME OVER X" when voted, use TOWNIE RAGE, chainsaw defend someone, etc.
It's highly advised that you quote a huge wall of text and reply with one line, especially "me too".
Yugi
Post as if you have split personality disorder
Yugi posts should mention friendship a lot - pretty much constantly. They should include a lot of standing up for your friends, even if the situation is unappropriate for it. They should be unassertive, and not particularly confident.
Yami posts should mention the heart of the cards a lot. They should have boundless and absolute confidence. They should also focus on card game metaphores a lot.
When in doubt, you can always post a picture of which one the post should represent.
This post restriction has been passed down the Armstrong line for generations!
Post in the style of Alex Louis Armstrong. Be overdramatic, emotional, and grandstand. Constantly tell players all the things been passed down your line for generations: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Louis_Armstrong. Losing your shirt is kind of a given with this restriction.
Da-ze
Post as though you were Marisa Kirisame. ##Steal both items and scumhunting techniques, lie, use ##Master Spark, feel free (but not required) to say Da-ze, break into other people's homes, collect mushrooms, and insist you are an ordinary magician.
I. AM. BATMAN.
Post as if you were Adam West. You must pretend you are a super hero, use Bat gear such as the bat shark repellant, etc. Also, post using BAT STUFF at inappropriate times and compulsively refer to a townie of your choice as either "sidekick" or "robin", and another townie as "Alfred". The goal here isn't to come across as Bat man, but to come across as a crazy actor who thinks he's bat man.
You must use the terms "batmobile" and "bat cave" at least once, and you need to make your own sound effects.
Might Guy (Naruto)
You must have an overwhelming amount of enthusiasm, even for trivial matters, to such an extent that it becomes rediculous. You must use the "Dynamic Entry". You must go on about the "Flames of Youth", and you must use the "Nice guy" pose (in the form of a picture - here's an example: http://media.photobucket.com/image/might%20guy/himino_hoshigaki/Might_Guy.jpg?o=5). You should refer to yourself as "Konoha's Sublime Green Beast of Prey". You must have trouble remembering your fellow players and you should go out of your way to state extremely obvious things about them. Try to emulate Might Guy's personality and mannerisms. You must make incredibly obvious statements.
Resource: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Might_Guy
You have received the post restriction: My legend began in the 12th Century
Post in the style of Soul Eater's Excalibur speech. Must include calling people fool or idiot, egotistical non-sequitur rambling and repeated mentions of what your day starts with or when your legend began.
Post restriction time!
You have received: False Prophet. You must post as if you thought you were Jesus. This means preaching morality, being opposed to lynches and night kills, and discussing repentance and mercy at great length. You may refer to lynching scum as casting out demons.
Your post restriction is: Yoda
Post with your verbs before your nouns, and teach your fellow townies the way of the force! Use the force to find scum.
Post restriction: Pinkamena Diane Pie
?Wow. I didn?t expect this one to be used. Welp, throw parties, spam the thread with ponies, go off on wild non-sequiturs and have the time of your life. Boundless energy and an uncrushable spirit are your trademarks, so remember this is a party game, and throw a party!
Eustace Bagge
You probably know the deal here. Be a crotchety old man. Be cruel, say ?stupid dog?, be all around pessimistic and you get the general idea. Cruelty is encouraged.
Gaston (from Beauty and the Beast)
You must be very shallow and very self-centered. Constantly rub in other people?s faces how wonderful you are for your superficial qualities, such as how much hair you have on your chest. Remember, at the core your better than all of them, because you are a perfect specimen of man. Intelligence and morality are for wimps.
Statler and Waldorf
You must heckle your fellow townies, in a two person format. Your posts should be formatted like two people talking to eachother.
Example:
Statler: That wasn't bad.
Waldorf: It wasn't very good either.
Both: Dohohoho
Post restriction: Philosophy of a hated Meme
Inspired by Koishi Hell 2's last spellcard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSs35LmMMPs&feature=related
You must include at least one meme per post. You may not quote the same meme twice. Useful resource: http://knowyourmeme.com/
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1. NekoNekoRex
2. Omba
3. Dr. Rawr
4. No Name
5. Bardiche
6. LLD
7. Conqueror
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9.
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11.
12.
13.
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I missed the post due to it being at the bottom of a page, sorry about that :V
Either way, /in as the Vote the Mod, as before.
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/in as Psycho Stalker
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/In with what I PMed you, if that's acceptable.
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It's acceptable.
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I'm going to /in.
I'm torn between John Madden and GLaDOS. Pick for me.
Alternatively, I can be both.
I asked Keine.
<Lambda> @choose John Madden or GLaDOS
<@Keine-tan> Lambda: I choose...John Madden! ^_^V
<Lambda> Right, GLaDOS it is
/in as GLaDOS
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Lemme show you folks how this is done.
/in as "Mrs Who" from a Wrinkle in Time.
The spirit is willing, but the body is weak. ~Matthew 26:41
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The spirit is willing, but the body is weak. ~Matthew 26:41
Policy D1 bible lynch
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Come at me bro. 8)
Whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ~Matthew 5:39
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Jesus wept.
?
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The spirit is willing, but the body is weak. ~Matthew 26:41
We need rest. The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised. ~Zapp Brannigan
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Alright, here's the deal. Roleplay is still encouraged, and signups are still open, but I'm going to try something a little different. Something I can do with fewer players.
We're going to try out a game of popcorn mafia. (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=12760)
The Setup
Nightless; 5 townies, 2 mafia OR 7 townies, 3 mafia OR 8 townies, 4 mafia
The mafia pick a townie to be the first gunbearer.
The town discuss amongst themselves, and the gunbearer picks someone to target by posting shoot Elmo or similar.
If their target is mafia, the target dies and the gunbearer keeps the gun.
If their target is town, the gunbearer dies and the target becomes the new gunbearer.
Repeat until all mafia are dead, or the mafia's numbers equal the non-gunbearing townies.
Role PMs:
You are a Vanilla Townie.
You win when all the mafia members are dead.
Please immediately reply "confirm" or similar if you're ready, or PM me any questions you may have. The game thread is here.
You are a Mafia Goon.
Your partners are ___, ___, and ___. You may communicate at any time; I have created a quicktopic for you here.
You win when the number of living mafia members equal or exceed the number of living townies, minus the gunbearer.
Please immediately reply "confirm" or similar if you're ready, or PM me any questions you may have. The game thread is here.
If you signed up and want out, tell me you want out. If you want in, tell me you want in. This is an open setup that I can run on my own, so co-mods are relieved of co-modding duty and may sign up for this game, since they have just as much information as anyone else.
Since I'm assuming most the people who have signed up still want to play mafia, I'm keeping the current list unless someone opts out.
1. NekoNekoRex
2. Omba
3. Dr. Rawr
4. No Name
5. Bardiche
6. LLD
7. Conqueror
8. Action Dan
9. Serela
10. Affinity
11.
12.
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what ever you people do, dont give me the gun
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/in
Use my slot as you wish. Since we already have 7, and if you can't at least reach the 10 mark, you can take me out.
I agree with Rawr, don't give me the gun~
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What if you decide to shoot yourself?
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What if you decide to shoot yourself?
You get banned from mafia. Forever.
You die, and the scum team gets to decide who gets the gun next. Basically, the worst possible outcome.
Same punishment for holding the gun past deadline.
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However, failed shots will mean you die, in which case the mod will write up a flavor scene involving you shooting yourself. So it's a lose-lose scenerio.
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Give me the gun and JUSTICE.
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/in
just keep in mind if you start the game in like one or two days I may not exist online again yet, after that I'll be back in my town/house/etc
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That actually sounds kind of interesting, so still /in.
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So the new setup's mechanics seem fun, it's a vanilla game and would encourage me to RP...
...but I can't sign up because no time. I hate everything.
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/in
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I'm going to Stay /in
As Taokaka.
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Last call for popcorn mafia. I'm just about ready to start.
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I'm so town, that I'm town even when I'm scum.
no, you and PX are both scum even when you're town, and the last game served as the long-awaited proof of this
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Replacement needed for I have no name's slot.
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/raises hand in hesitation
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Replacement needed for I have no name's slot.
Since I'm leaving the morning of the 30th, I believe D4 ends before then so if possible can the replacement take place going into D5?
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BT will replace No Name.
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Can I... uh... ask to put a game of mine on the queue?
Is... that okay with everyone?
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Looking for another replacement, just in case a player drops out.
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It was just another day in purgatory for the Afterlife War Front when a strange incident occurred, changing the lives of the AWF forever.
It's now up to you to get to the bottom of this new mystery!
Rules:
0) Whatever the mod says goes. In addition, these rules may be changed at any time.
1) You may not directly quote any communications with the moderator. Paraphrasing is allowed, but run it by the moderator first if you feel that it is too similar to the original content.
2) Play to win and have fun.
3) Days will last for 72 hours. Nights will last for 24.
4) Being prodded 3 times is grounds for a modkill. The first prod will be given after 24 hours of inactivity. Each prod you receive will reduce the amount of time you have before you receive another prod by 6 hours.
5) Use ##Vote: <Name> to vote. Minor variations will be accepted.
6) Use ##Unvote to unvote. Minor variations will be accepted.
7) Failure to reach a majority will result in no lynch occurring.
8) You may talk during twilight, though no votes may be moved during this time. Twilight is the time between the hammer and the moderator's flip.
9) You may not talk during the night.
10) You may not speak to other players about the game through private methods of communication unless you have a role that facilitates such an activity.
11) You may not edit your posts. Use edits by way of post if you must.
12) You may make one post that does not contain any game related information after dying within 24 hours of your death. This is the only exception that will allow you to talk at night.
13) Realize your worthlessness in comparison to the clothespin. (http://killicy.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/closepin-wp1.png)
Signups (13/13)
1. Conqueror
2. huh what
3. Lady Lambdadelta
4. ActionDan
5. NekoNekoRex
6. Kilgamayan
7. Omba
8. Shadoweh
9. Serela
10. Affinity
11. DrRawr
12. Pesco
13. BT
Replacements:
1. IHNN
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/in
AHAHAHA FIRST
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/in
conq trying to be job in the above post
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/in for Angel Beats Mafia
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Didn't you guys know that CONQ is a JOB alt?
You may now shit bricks
/in
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I'll probably /in for anything really
STOP CUTTING ME
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/in
conq trying to be job in the above post
:3 :3 :3 :3 :3
brb changing my avatar to a potato
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potatoes are, in my mind, forever a dormio thing and nobody can take that away from me :colbert:
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Angel Beats Mafia
As a fun side bet, if scum wins then I get to ban Dormio for a month.
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Potatoes will forever be a Kefit thing after his 1280x1024 potato avatar at the now-defunct arch0wl.com forums. Also /in
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/in
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Kefit hasn't played here in ages (i presume because he's busy or something) so it's irrelevant!
not that i enjoyed being scumbuddies with him etc etc etc
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I guess I can be a replacement starting on the 6th if required. If the game hasn't started by then than I shall join anyway.
The camping trip that would have forced me to replace out of Popcorn Mafia is keeping me from /inning this game.
^_^/ in for Shadoweh Quest's sequel! I hope my role is as good as the last one Dormio gave me!
oh god that thread was hilarious
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^_^/ in for Shadoweh Quest's sequel! I hope my role is as good as the last one Dormio gave me!
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/in
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Kilga confirmed for bastard in skills. =.=
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Just to warn everyone in advance, while my username will stay the same for the duration of this game, my avatar will be changing routinely. >_>
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arch0wl.com
What? I never thought I would see his name again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4xvpd6TOn0)
Oh well, /in, though I probably be frustrated again in the course of the game. And potatoes are mine and mine alone.
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Kefit hasn't played here in ages (i presume because he's busy or something) so it's irrelevant!
I'm less busy than you imagine. I don't call myself comically underemployed for nothing. Though at the moment I am actually working so I am quite busy for once!
What? I never thought I would see his name again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4xvpd6TOn0)
Oh really now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq8KDNQf-2c&feature=related)
ps
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Kefit/Itsapotato.jpg)
pps someone bug Kilga to bug me to maybe join the next game that opens up. I'll consider it if I'm not working at the time.
EDIT: ya really I guess so (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLer2FSyY3c)
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/in or something
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New page, new
votecountsignups post.
Rules can be found here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11883.msg849321.html#msg849321).
Signups (13/13)
1. Conqueror
2. huh what
3. Lady Lambdadelta
4. ActionDan
5. NekoNekoRex
6. Kilgamayan
7. Omba
8. Shadoweh
9. Serela
10. Affinity
11. DrRawr
12. Pesco
13. BT
Replacements:
1. IHNN
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/in for co-mod/observer hydra :V
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Pee ecks! Come back and be my monkey again so I can ignore you telling me who the right scum is on LyLo :3
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Serela confirmed for N1 vig.
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can we just not have hydras, those games are the best
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I think if we're going down the hydra lane we should pull out all the stops. Since when did hydras only have two heads anyway? I wanna see 5 players in one slot, all posting and voting.
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Screw your hydras until all playerslots are filled.
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/instalock TK else I feed
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/in???
This is confusing.
Timezones are confusing.
This better not be the second time this happens.
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L-0, Signups have been filled. Please wait warmly whilst I petition for Godmother powers and create the topic.
Remember that replacements are always welcome in case unavoidable and needlessly complicated situations of whimsical nature arise for players.
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>Instant sign-ups
Whut
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>Instant sign-ups
Whut
U WAN HYDRA?
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Haha. No.
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Well.. If you e-ever change your mind, ... I'm .. here.
;P
this Playerlist is intimidating. scary, scary
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>Instant sign-ups
Whut
ikr
Went to bed with the other game ongoing, woke up to find the new game already started :V
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Could I be placed back on the mod queue? The name of the game is Popcorn Mafia 2.
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>This game
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do you want to sub in for me bard
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Only if you'll hydra me.
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DrRawr is requesting a replacement. Leave a message through PMs or through this topic if you are interested. If no replacement is found by the end of Night 2, DrRawr will be modkilled. IHNN will be given priority if he wishes to replace in.
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My offer to sub in is real and genuine. Even for Huh What. I don't even need your hydra, Huh Whatty.
EDIT: That means yes, I am willing to sub in for DrRawr as necessary.
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Bard can take the slot. I read through the game and most of it is *_*
edit: I'll still replace in if another one is needed though.
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Bard can take the slot. I read through the game and most of it is *_*
It is, but I'm a masochist. This game, seriously.
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have fun while i didnt :3
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I would like to reenter the mod queue to host うたわれるもの(Utawarerumono) Mafia.
That is, if you'll have me, of course.
... Am I not good enough for you?
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Go make Infinity a sandwich.
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Give me 1 or 2 days to sort things out. We might need a break since the last game anyways.
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I think a break is definitely in order to calm some of the more heated and fierce emotions.
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IM DUMB NEVERMIND
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As a fun side bet, if scum wins then I get to ban Dormio for a month.
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY DORMIO :D
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The best cure for mafia fever is stringing up more people.
As long as they aren't me okay. ;-;
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The best cure for mafia fever is stringing up more people.
As long as they aren't me okay. ;-;
Stringing up drunk people is the best. :derp:
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the only "heated and fierce emotions" were during day 2 which was about a week ago. i don't think we need a break
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Well, there ARE people suffering from THIS TOWN syndrome, but, um, I won't outright call it exaggerated, but it's lacking in "heated and fierce emotions". :V
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By the way, it might be a decent idea to have another filler game instead. I don't think we'll be swimming in signups right away.
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The signups will come, I think. The Day of Rage happened a while ago like huhwhat said, and in any case we just had a filler game recently so. :v
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BARRRRRRRRRRRD!
WHY ARE YOU SO HYPOCRITICAL??
>:( >:( >:(
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BARRRRRRRRRRRD!
WHY ARE YOU SO MOE??????
<3<3
Anyway, I would prefer to get a game started as soon as possible - Otakon's in two weeks and several Mafia-playing forumites will be AWOL for a few days at that time.
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If the next game started before Otakon I'm simply not going to play for that very reason.
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Name me who will be at Otakon and regularly plays? As far as I know, all the people who are going, wouldn't play anyway.
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If the next game started before Otakon I'm simply not going to play for that very reason.
Bah, this one got done in two weeks. <_< We could squeeze another in.
Name me who will be at Otakon and regularly plays? As far as I know, all the people who are going, wouldn't play anyway.
Yeah, fair point.
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If people really want a filler game, I'll do a bland anon game. Any number of signups will do.
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a 48 hour day, 24 hour night 9p filler game would finish in under two weeks if we got sign-ups filled asap. should probably wait for affinity's thoughts though
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I'm fine with whatever. For once I actually feel like a bland vanilla-ey game anyway, so that sounds nice
plus I tend to do better in anon games. The previous one wasn't some sort of role madness setup, but the setup speculation went off the deep end by all involved persons except the third party self-reviving serial killer lovers. (This sentence feels like it contradicts itself.)
The setup being nightless would also help speed things up. Last time we did that it worked out fairly well, didn't it? Plus less waiting to see what the kill is :D But yeah, that'd make the filler game fairly short, even if it was a little bigger then 9p.
But yeah, since Affinity's game would be next, would wait on his opinion.
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i would personally prefer 48 hr days - 24 hr nights to unicycle or nightless
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By bland I mean no flavour writing. I'll include that the game will be a semi-open setup. No role madness.
I don't mind taking signups right away and just passing them to Affinity if he'd rather go first. If he's running anon, the signups stay that way. If he doesn't I'll post a list of who's in.
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HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY DORMIO :D
Oh dear God, no.
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Thing is, I'm entering uni in three weeks time, after which I won't have much time to mod with all the orientations and such. So I'd rather go first.
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Welcome to the NHK!! Mafia Signups
Thirteen souls, broken and lonely, lost in the cold, heartless city of Tokyo. Bound by their dysfunctional personalities and painful memories, they are trapped on a metaphorical desert island, stagnantly drifting from day to day in an attempt to escape from their demons.
However, all of a sudden, amidst the beer, the drugs and the pithy distractions, a voice seemed to arise amongst them, whispering hateful things into their ears, lashing out at their insecurities and igniting their painful memories. All at once, depression and despair set in. The uncertain future seemed to loom gravely over them. Thoughts of suicide became harder and harder to suppress.
No doubt, it was all the work of the Nihon Hikkomori Kyoukai in disguise, and it was all up to them to root out this dark influence from within. But with their volatile emotions all in disarray, would they really be able to do so without killing themselves?
Welcome to the NHK.
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Rules:
0) Whatever the mod says is final. Rules are subject to change any time. Also, watch the anime.
1) This is a traditional mafia game with standard day and night phases. However, important information may be withheld from players regarding the state of the game and their roles, making it a bastard mod game.
2) Days last 48 hours. Nights last 24 hours.
3) Play for your win condition and read role PMs carefully.
4) Prods will be given after 24 hours of inactivity. Being prodded twice is grounds for modkill.
5) A lynch will occur only when a majority is reached.
6) Don't quote mod communications. Don't communicate with other people about the game except when you're allowed to do so.
7) Don't edit posts.
8 ) No talk in the topic during twilight and night phases.
9) No bah! posts. Dead is dead, especially in this anime.
10) Have fun and live your lives to the fullest.
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Signups: (12/13)
(Co-mod: IHaveNoName)
1. Serela
2. PX
3. Shadoweh
4. dr rawr
5. Edible
6. Omba
7. NekoNekoRex
8. Dormio
9. huhwhat
10. ActionDan
11. Schezo
12.
13. BT
'Replacements'
1. Bardiche
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/in
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Wheee /in
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Thought process:
1. Cool, signups!
2. 1) This is a traditional mafia game with standard day and night phases. However, important information may be withheld from players regarding the state of the game and their roles, making it a bastard mod game.
:ohdear:
3.(Note: If anyone is willing to be co-mod, I'm fine with that).
Hmmmm...
4. Checks Affinity's timezone, sees he's on the opposite side of the world (as in exactly 12 hours off)
5. Heeheehee...mods have the information :D
6. /in...as co-mod I'm assuming I mostly have to manage votecounts but there's probably some other stuff too
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1) This is a traditional mafia game with standard day and night phases. However, important information may be withheld from players regarding the state of the game and their roles, making it a bastard mod game.
AT LEAST I EXPECT THIS GAME TO SCREW ME OVER.
/in to be vigged Day 1
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/in to vig Shadoweh day 1
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/in
claiming scum :derp:
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Okay, thanks IHNM, will contact you soon once I get the setup up.
And yay.
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/in
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inininininininin
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/in to the NHK.
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/in
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/in
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oooh flavor. That episode. THAT EPISODE. it was funny.
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/in
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You had me until Bastard Mod.
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You misunderstand. He meant Edible when he said Bastard Mod.
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But it says right here he'll be
lyingwithholding important information.
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(http://i.imgur.com/UXxGzl.jpg)
1) This is a traditional mafia game with standard day and night phases. However, important information may be withheld from players regarding the state of the game and their roles, making it a bastard mod game.
He only said it once.
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Eeeeh, I suppose I can play as a Replacement.
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Withholding important information and bastard mod are synonymous though, so maybe it's important information.J
Still... :V
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/in as long as we lynch Affinity day one
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You know what
I will be following this ANYWAY
so /in
I hate myself already :mafiaaddiction:
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Well, that's it for signups.
Game will be up in 24 hours, I hope.
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<Inaba_Tewi> Bard where's that case you were supposed to post :V
I'm going to make the case here that people who repeatedly have a negative effect on the Mafia environment should be carded, if not entirely barred from participation, duration of said barring to be determined by figures other than me. I will detail what I understand to be negative effects, the Mafia environment and why this is a good idea.
First of all, let's handle what I consider Mafia environment. This is rather important, as it extends to more than just the game state when it is under way. The Mafia Environment is the entire process of sign-ups, gameplay, Graveyard and post-game. I will consider any or all of these processes to be "the Mafia Environment", and souring any one of these or more is grounds to declare that someone has "a negative effect" on "the Mafia Environment".
Sign-Ups, Graveyard and Post-Game are, I believe, important parts as well, as anyone dicking around in Sign-Ups may discourage people from Signing-Up, whereas Graveyard attitudes are often insulting and Post-Game can be rife with negative attitudes, sore loser-ism and other such things that are just not encouraging sportsmanship and positive play.
What I consider a negative effect is rather broad, but nonetheless important: Any deliberate and continued/repeated action(s) which discourages players from participating in the game or discourages players from interacting with the source of said action, or any deliberate and continued/repeated action(s) which give unequivocal insult to players participating in the game[/i]. Put simply, this means emotional abuse and cyber-bullying. When I say 'deliberate', I mean that accidents can and will happen which may inadvertently create a negative effect on the game state.
Lurking due to extenuating circumstances has a negative effect on the game, as does lynching a newbie you honestly think is Scum, but neither are deliberate. Deliberate actions include treating people without any respect, (excessive) name-calling, calling into question one's rational abilities, attributing failure to one's echelon or implying problems in another's parentage/heritage. There are of course many other things, but these are rather prevalent, both in the game itself and in the Graveyard.
Yes, calling Townies a mass of idiots is a deliberate action which gives unequivocal insult to players participating in the game. One may not feel insulted but it is an action designed to do thus or to otherwise assert intellectual superiority to others, which is being a petty jerk and exhibits social inferiority. Yes, claiming you have extenuating family circumstances while no such thing is real also counts.
To put it in plain terms: anyone who is an untoward and deliberate dick ruins the game or upsets players, and we should want to discourage this.
Why? Because, frankly, it is a cancer on MoTK Mafia here. Mafia is a game of social intrigue where an uninformed minority faces off against an informed majority. The purposes of each Townie are to come to an understanding of who are against the Town and then make others come to the same understanding so as to effect a lynch on that person.
For Scum, the goal is to confuse Town and manipulate their actions onto other members of the Town or otherwise throw into disarray Town's attempts to unmask the Scum.
It's a battle of wits.
Sadly, some people feel that emotional manipulation/abuse, bullying and other such underhanded trickery is entirely acceptable. It should not be. Above everything else Mafia is a Party Game, which means you play it with a group of people. You play with a Group of People. No one plays the game solo (unless you're a Third Party, but even then others play with you) and no one person is ever accountable for the failure of either side of the competition. At the end of the Day, everyone should conclude Mafia with the joy of having played a game and to have bested maybe person X in a battle of wit.
It is impossible for everyone to experience such feelings if one or more people insist on souring the game "by any means possible" in order to stroke their own egos or assert their own (intellectual) superiority over others. If you want to feel better about yourself, Mafia should not be the venue for that.
Eliminating this style of play should decrease the need for a "time-out" to let "heated emotions" die down, or otherwise "recover" from a Mafia game over much. It will also lead to less animosity in the game, meaning that the state of gameplay will not be soured by the egocentric actions of few, which surely ruins it for a majority. Saying "no" to these players, or this type of play, together will ensure that no one should feel singled out for feeling their gameplay ruined. Assertions such as "I refuse to play with Person X" or "I would rather not join a game X is in" means that person has a negative effect on the Sign-Up process, but a mod should not be forced to "be the bad guy" and choose one over the other.
So. tl;dr, we should card or ban people who are excessive dicks by default instead of relying on the judgement of game mods. ##VOTE: Yes to agree to this proposal and to say "NO" to all this cocking around by jerks. :3
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Don't we already have the card system for this?
Also, vote against. Not a big fan of public shaming by the masses. I think a few private messages would be more effective and enjoyable for all parties involved. Although some games on mafiascum have perhaps a similar system titled "Wisdom of the Crowds," where players can, during signups, pm the mod the names of x players they would not like to play with, and if a certain threshold is passed for a player, the mod may remove that person from the playerlist. Is that more what you're aiming at?
Edit: Also, mafia is as much a battle of emotions and rhetoric as it is a battle of wits. That's just how the game is played since the participants are human. Encouraging more pleasant behaviour is a good goal though.
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>public shaming
Who says anything about public shaming?
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##VOTE: Yes
No.
Mafia is a game of wits, yes. Remember how the mongols used to burn down cities and slaughter all the citizens to pressure other cities into surrendering without a fight? Pretty effective stuff.
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So. tl;dr, we should card or ban people who are excessive dicks by default instead of relying on the judgement of game mods.
Referring to the fact that you seem to be suggesting a vote-like approach to this instead of the mod-decision approach, which makes it more personal imo.
But I digress. I like your intentions but I disagree with the approach. How about we all just act nicer to one other? Like you said, curbtail the insults. Attack the play, not the player. Mafia is a party game, yo.
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Referring to the fact that you seem to be suggesting a vote-like approach to this instead of the mod-decision approach, which makes it more personal imo.
I'm suggesting people agree that people who are being excessive dicks by default should be carded, so Pesco/Edible may feel called to card people for that instead of waiting for a game mod to say that they felt x person deserves to be carded for unsportsmanlike play.
Mafia is a game of wits, yes. Remember how the mongols used to burn down cities and slaughter all the citizens to pressure other cities into surrendering without a fight? Pretty effective stuff.
... Um, okay.
Carry on as you were then. :derp:
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I think the proposal is just "improving" the card system.
Looking at this from the perspective of someone in favor of a card being handed out: yay -1 annoying player
Looking at this from the perspective of someone being carded constantly: Why do these people not want me around?
Honestly I think I'm going to leave this vote to the people who have been around here longer.
No.
Mafia is a game of wits, yes. Remember how the mongols used to burn down cities and slaughter all the citizens to pressure other cities into surrendering without a fight? Pretty effective stuff.
That was war, this is a game. It's meant to be fun. Is it fun to be constantly bullied/attacked?
So. tl;dr, we should card or ban people who are excessive dicks by default instead of relying on the judgement of game mods. ##VOTE: Yes to agree to this proposal and to say "NO" to all this cocking around by jerks. :3
The only people I've played with who've reduced the fun for me were ICE in my first game (almost made me not continue) and LLD in Popcorn Mafia (and honestly she was half the reason I didn't replace into Dormio's game)
I don't want to rock the boat too much but I'm leaning in favor of this system right now-however only towards attacking other players outside of the context of the game.
That almost turned into a wall.
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Bad case, ##Vote Bardiche
I don't think any one player is adopting a jerk-like playstyle to be a jerk to others. People that do this are jerks overall and shouldn't be included in games. I don't think we're dealing with any of those, though. Your personality in Mafia, more often than not, is different from how you usually act, which is why taking the "leave all Mafia rage in mafia" approach is so common. Combined with what I said earlier, people may be jerks in Mafia because they like that playstyle, because it improves their own Mafia experience. These aren't people we want to ban from games but people we want to put on the right track. I also believe that players that claim to "not want to play with PLAYER" do this not because they're actually offended by said player and refuse to converse with them, but because they don't like their "Mafia personality".
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##Vote: Yes
Makes my job as a mod easier.
Just as a fair warning, there is precedent for forum probation for inappropriate Mafia attitudes. I'm not really sure why people would prefer that system to this one.
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/in as long as we lynch Affinity day one
We won't, so feel free to /out instead.
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To clarify, the system is all about punishing players that willingly ruin other players' experiences. That is very agreeable. However, there needs to be a distinction between "willingly ruining players' experiences" and "willingly adopting a playstyle that ruins players' experiences". The latter is not the kind of bad intent we're trying to keep out.
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<Bardiche> omba, let me put it this way.
<Inaba_Tewi> if I'm not in the game, I consult the GM first to decide if the player is mafia and is using it for an advantage or not
<Bardiche> If you call me a retard, I don't particularly care because I know it isn't true.
<Bardiche> But if I have to play a game and you call me retard at every avenue.
<Bardiche> I don't really have any reason to continue playing that game because there's someone continuously antagonising me in it
^ This is the sort of behaviour we should be stamping out and that I propose we eliminate by collectively urging the mods to revise the card system and intervene on their own rather than wait for (a number of) players to come to them with the request to card someone.
There is no public shaming nor immediate banning, but right now there's a laissez-faire attitude where no one intervenes unless the game mod says so, and most game mods are too nice to want to bar someone from their game or warn them for belligerent behaviour, especially if they have to suffer that behaviour as a response.
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To clarify, the system is all about punishing players that willingly ruin other players' experiences. That is very agreeable. However, there needs to be a distinction between "willingly ruining players' experiences" and "willingly adopting a playstyle that ruins players' experiences". The latter is not the kind of bad intent we're trying to keep out.
Well, we do want to discourage it to promote a more pleasant game environment. If they're doing it willingly it means they're capable of changing it to something that makes the game more enjoyable for all.
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I never knew mods had to wait on game mods to tell them what to do. That's why they're mods?
@Conq: Exactly.
These aren't people we want to ban from games but people we want to put on the right track.
Bard was (still is) making the implication of keeping them out altogether.
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LLD is unavailable for this game and all future games for an indefinite period. She had been warned about certain types of behavior and chose to repeatedly ignore the warnings.
Please direct all complaints to management.
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@Conq: Exactly.Bard was (still is) making the implication of keeping them out altogether.
There has to be a point where people stand by their threats. Naturally no one wants to be the mean person who says no. But if no one is willing to say enough is enough at some point, then no one has any incentive to get better, knowing they will always be tolerated.
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I never knew mods had to wait on game mods to tell them what to do. That's why they're mods?
Acting on hearsay and only one side of the story is never a good idea. If I don't know the context, I find it out first.
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There has to be a point where people stand by their threats. Naturally no one wants to be the mean person who says no. But if no one is willing to say enough is enough at some point, then no one has any incentive to get better, knowing they will always be tolerated.
This, and not saying anything of someone's abusive behaviour is tacitly endorsing it. It's not bad enough to say something about, so it's fine if they continue, right? It shouldn't be.
I'll take full responsibility if any mods feel that the above post by Edible is due to me and would rather not want me in their games. I simply do not think we should just sit by and be quiet when anyone makes it so someone abandons their wincon to satisfy a personal urge to remove detriments to their fun.
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Acting on hearsay and only one side of the story is never a good idea. If I don't know the context, I find it out first.
Actually, I misunderstood it as "Game Mod says PLAYER is bad" --> "Mod cards PLAYER". Yeah, w/e.
Shadoweh, I guess I was saying something like "it's a-ok as long as they're willing to change", but, uhh, if they aren't willing to change then yeah, I guess that's the case here. Everyone is Right and I am Not.
I'll take full responsibility if any mods feel that the above post by Edible is due to me and would rather not want me in their games.
W-Why would this even happen
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W-Why would this even happen
Because I'm an outspoken troublemaker? :V
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You're too moe to be trouble. <^_^>
There's no need to be down on yourself, BT. I think if people remembered we are friends/associates/Bardiches playing a game with people before we are roles trying to beat each other we would have more fun.
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Nah, not down on myself. It's more like I enjoy admitting to losing arguments. :V
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I'd probably say no to this proposal.
As for the game of Mafia, undermining someone using petty insults and the like is a viable strategy. It's as low as it gets, but emotion is not entirely disconnected from how we reason. Emotional responses inform our reason. If player XXX calls player YYY a CENSORED
, whether player XXX is mafia or town or third party, it should be allowable up to specific games rules set by the game mod (e.g rule 15: 'play nice') or else superseded by site-wide rules on excessive egregious behavior. Trying to browbeat others is attempting to sway the crowds and bolster an opinion. Please note that the recipient of wanton behavior need not be tame either. It's up to them. And any response to the unpleasantness does not have to be returned in kind.
As for the Graveyard, signups, post-game, etc, elements that to not affect the game-state directly, bad behavior will earn the offender a bad reputation, and as such it will be up to the mods as well as everyone else that will host a game whether or not they can participate in their future games. If it's a question if something needs immediate attention, then the game mod should have final say.
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I never knew mods had to wait on game mods to tell them what to do. That's why they're mods?
RPG is a little unique in that games are almost invariably self-moderated, either through a GM or through the playerbase. From a staff standpoint, if this self-moderation corrects internal errors and keeps everyone relatively happy, then we see no reason to step in (unless you're violating some other site rule). We could be Big Brother watch over all the little brothers and sisters in every game, but when the nature of RPG's games allows for easy self-moderation, why bother?
It is only when this self-moderation fails that we step in. And we've stepped in on more than just Mafia; multiple text-adventurers have been spoken to about game-ruining actions and behaviors, and there has been the occasional other miscreant in the more traditional role-playing games. Not everyone was trying to be a disruption, and not everyone was even aware they were being a disruption. But if one person's idea of fun is ruining the game for others, some sort of compromise has to be made, regardless of intentions.
The thing is that everyone should want to avoid site staff stepping in, because if we need to step in, that means you're going to see more of a punishment than simple removal from a game.
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I'd probably say no to this proposal.
As for the game of Mafia, undermining someone using petty insults and the like is a viable strategy. It's as low as it gets, but emotion is not entirely disconnected from how we reason. Emotional responses inform our reason. If player XXX calls player YYY a CENSORED
, whether player XXX is mafia or town or third party, it should be allowable up to specific games rules set by the game mod (e.g rule 15: 'play nice') or else superseded by site-wide rules on excessive egregious behavior. Trying to browbeat others is attempting to sway the crowds and bolster an opinion. Please note that the recipient of wanton behavior need not be tame either. It's up to them. And any response to the unpleasantness does not have to be returned in kind.
As for the Graveyard, signups, post-game, etc, elements that to not affect the game-state directly, bad behavior will earn the offender a bad reputation, and as such it will be up to the mods as well as everyone else that will host a game whether or not they can participate in their future games. If it's a question if something needs immediate attention, then the game mod should have final say.
This is saying no to the proposal on the basis that saving the worst possible playstyle is preferrable than avoiding all of the sour comments that makes it difficult for people to enjoy the game.
People may say that they're really having fun with it if I step in and perspectivize the issue, but you'd feel really silly about yourself if you were playing a game and not having fun with it, so yeah, the answer isn't really that informative. All of that ragey behaviour calling people dumbasses and being hindsight biasy as hell makes it more difficult to have fun, because Availability Heuristic. Stick around with pessimists for too long and you'll slowly turn into one. It's like trying to have fun in some anonymous community where everybody is too busy insulting others to boost their e-peen to have fun with anything they were supposed to be doing.
Running into a graveyard full of rage and insult when you were feeling pretty good about your play can only potentially weigh you down, whether it does or not is up to the person, like Bard said, but there's barely ever anything constructive in it, and when there is, it's mostly there just to justify the rage post hoc. If the initial intention were to be constructive, things would be worded in very different ways. One would expect people to know better than to resort to condescent to boost their ego, but it keeps happening, and if this proposal makes that kind of attitude disappear then I'm all for it.
Actually, I don't think in-game comments of this kind are that frequent, and on the basis of their potential use, I'd be fine with it if they were only allowed in-game to a certain extent and the proposal were implemented only for pre-game, graveyard and post game.
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##Vote: Yes, i'm fine with LLD being carded
seriously, is there anybody else contributing to what this wall of text was addressing at all?
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resort to condescent to boost their ego, but it keeps happening, and if this proposal makes that kind of attitude disappear then I'm all for it.
Dude, if you call someone a retard because you think his play is shit, chances are you already assume that you (currently) know better than him. And (although that frequently happens) that does not necessarily mean you think you'd do better were you in his position.
All this touchiness about a bunch of letters written by people you've never met is pretty strange. Seriously, difficult to enjoy the game? Whatever happened to brutal honesty. :/
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uhhh i'm pretty sure you can tell somebody that they need to step up their game without calling them a retard
what do we really gain from being able to say "you're a fucking idiot" in the middle of a mafia game? your skill at mafia doesn't even represent your mental faculties. it's just a basic "don't be a complete asshole" rule, something we shouldn't even need to have a huge wall of text to describe
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As for the Graveyard, signups, post-game, etc, elements that to not affect the game-state directly, bad behavior will earn the offender a bad reputation, and as such it will be up to the mods as well as everyone else that will host a game whether or not they can participate in their future games. If it's a question if something needs immediate attention, then the game mod should have final say.
Empirical evidence shows that no game mods ever bar a person from playing in either the optimistic belief that their game will be treated different or the naive assumption that no player would ruin their game. Or indifference, I guess. This lack of action on the game mods' behalf must be rectified then if you find it an objectionable thing to better police the Mafia Environment and punish offenders based on the judgement of a presiding Moderator rather than the Mafia Runner.
Running into a graveyard full of rage and insult when you were feeling pretty good about your play can only potentially weigh you down
When you feel you played a bad game, I doubt you want others to affirm it by calling you a gigantic, incompetent moron who they don't know what the fuck he's smoking. Just because you're thick skinned doesn't mean others need to be.
In Popcorn Mafia IHNN and LSD found it important to state that I was "the most useless confirmed Townie ever". This adds nothing whatsoever and is designed only to attack someone and bring them down. People make mistakes, and people have games where what they think is the best play does not match what you think is the best play. There is no reason to attack them over that, and this behaviour must be curb stomped.
And (although that frequently happens) that does not necessarily mean you think you'd do better were you in his position.
By calling someone a retard you are heavily implying you'd do better than him. After all, a retard calling someone a retard would be hypocritical, and it kinda weakens the insult.
"Goddamn you couldn't see Huh What Scum, you fucking retards. I mean I thought he was Town too but GODDAMN you guys couldn't even see it! How stupid can you be?"
Haha. Yeah, no. If you thought that it was reasonable for them to be fooled by the same acts you were you wouldn't call them a retard.
All this touchiness about a bunch of letters written by people you've never met is pretty strange.
"It's the internet so insults magically mean less." Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The medium through which insults are delivered does not take away from insults. That you hardly know the people is a flimsy excuse as we have established rapport with almost everyone here, and for newcomers they usually want a community to accept them, not to call them raving idiots whose heads are up their goddamn arses for not spotting the fucking obvious scums you mental retards.
Whatever happened to brutal honesty. :/
Society still considers it an undesirable trait when delivered to people who aren't your friends.
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what do we really gain from being able to say "you're a fucking idiot" in the middle of a mafia game? your skill at mafia doesn't even represent your mental faculties. it's just a basic "don't be a complete asshole" rule, something we shouldn't even need to have a huge wall of text to describe
The ability to be honest. All that sugar coating? Useless. If I say "that was maybe less than optimal", it means the exact same thing, just the other person can interpret in a nice fluffy way instead of the actual meaning "that was fucking dumb you idiot". Which kind of misses the point of telling him that it was fucking dumb. Both in regards to "you might want to improve that" and "fuck this irritating".
Calling someone a retard does not necessarily implicate the person is generally dumb, just that his skills (or the use he currently makes of them) for this particular game or situation suck. Just like calling someone an asshole does not mean he actually is one in the literal sense.
Lastly, there's of course the part where the whole raging together in the graveyard is in itself fun.
Now as for in the middle of a game: It has various uses. It's a way to fake sincerity if you're scum, can make it easier to lynch someone if you're town and... seriously, you know all the ways rage can be used in a mafia game, you've been playing this game for a quite a while longer than me.
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##Vote: Yes, i'm fine with LLD being carded
seriously, is there anybody else contributing to what this wall of text was addressing at all?
:V.
@Vhaltz: exactly.
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The ability to be honest. All that sugar coating? Useless. If I say "that was maybe less than optimal", it means the exact same thing, just the other person can interpret in a nice fluffy way instead of the actual meaning "that was fucking dumb you idiot". Which kind of misses the point of telling him that it was fucking dumb. Both in regards to "you might want to improve that" and "fuck this irritating".
It's less sugar coating as it is "giving constructive feedback". If you have to say "that was fucking dumb you idiot" then usually you don't mean "you should do better next time"; You just want to stroke your ego by calling others dumb. Communication theory and sociology still discourage the use of strong language against people you hardly know as aggression begets aggression. This basic tenet of communication should be kept in mind, and anyone who honestly thinks there is no difference between "that was fucking dumb you dumbfuck" and "he could never have been ITP, consider these numbers" needs to brush up on social skills.
Lastly, there's of course the part where the whole raging together in the graveyard is in itself fun.
We should not be encouraging having fun at someone else's expense. That's called bullying.
HuhWhatty Edible banned LSD from Mafiers. This is about general, not LSD, okay.
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you can be honest and get your point across without being brutal about it while not sugar coating it at the same time. if you need brutal honesty outside of a situation where the other party really, really does not get it then you're really just a dick who likes putting people down sorry
not to mention that "retard" is an exaggeration and a bucket insult, something more accurate would be "dude you suck at this game & are shitty at scumhunting/scumhiding/looking townie as town/etc"
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By calling someone a retard you are heavily implying you'd do better than him. After all, a retard calling someone a retard would be hypocritical, and it kinda weakens the insult.
Well, if I fucked up, I tend to think "I'm a retard" or "that was retarded", so.
Haha. Yeah, no. If you thought that it was reasonable for them to be fooled by the same acts you were you wouldn't call them a retard.
Not necessarily. Case in point, I have no idea if I would actually have been able to do better were I still alive in the latter parts of the last game. Knowing that, I still thought of a significant part of the living players as either retards or scum. And said as much.
Although I have to concede it is irritating when someone doesn't acknowledge he possibly (or likely) would have screwed up similarly while telling others that they suck.
"It's the internet so insults magically mean less." Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The medium through which insults are delivered does not take away from insults. That you hardly know the people is a flimsy excuse as we have established rapport with almost everyone here, and for newcomers they usually want a community to accept them, not to call them raving idiots whose heads are up their goddamn arses for not spotting the fucking obvious scums you mental retards.
Dunno. Maybe (probably) I'm just jaded in that regard.
Society still considers it an undesirable trait when delivered to people who aren't your friends.
This is true and a fact that often irritates me. I'd like to at least cut the bullshit when I'm playing a game.
We should not be encouraging having fun at someone else's expense. That's called bullying.
Everybody gets a turn, so the usual bullying is bad things don't apply here. (:V)
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In Popcorn Mafia IHNN and LSD found it important to state that I was "the most useless confirmed Townie ever".
That's what LLD said, IIRC I only said you could have played better and included a quote.
you can be honest and get your point across without being brutal about it while not sugar coating it at the same time. if you need brutal honesty outside of a situation where the other party really, really does not get it then you're really just a dick who likes putting people down sorry
not to mention that "retard" is an exaggeration and a bucket insult, something more accurate would be "dude you suck at this game & are shitty at scumhunting/scumhiding/looking townie as town/etc"
I'm just going to stop debating this because huh what is explaining it way better than I would and has basically the exact stance on this.
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Everybody gets a turn, so the usual bullying is bad things don't apply here. (:V)
What?
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I always thought of the Graveyard as a play-by-play with the added speculation of debating who's who (assuming the mod hides the setup from graveyard)
Running into an angry graveyard that thinks your game was bad and you were scum should rightfully kill any big-ego thinking you had when you died. Likewise it can be a relief to run into a graveyard yelling at the players trying to lynch you instead of at you, because you know you at least played decently enough for the graveyard to realize (or think in the case of scum) you're town.
I've never seen a graveyard that was insulting and I'm usually not half as serious as I sound when I'm making graveyard posts. If people were insulted by my graveyard posts (possibly BT since I was browbeating him when he came in from the lynch) then I can definitely try to tone it down a notch or two, but I think graveyard rage isn't as bad as people make it out to be.
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wait. Was LLD perma banned? :O.
@Bardiche: you are right. I haven't really thought about the players pushing the mods to be more accountable in providing for a better mafia experience.
Well I can guarantee I'll be using a mild player filter. I'll have a secret vote once signups are finalized where any one who is voted with 2/3 majority will be forced not to participate. However, if this ever happens I might give them some kind of role... hehehe
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seriously, is there anybody else contributing to what this wall of text was addressing at all?
For all that this means coming from me, the list of people I have less than zero desire to play with or have in my games is longer than one name.
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wait. Was LLD perma banned? :O.
No. Just indefinitely, and only from RPG.
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nnr i think your problem is just that you exaggerate graveyard stuff because you think it's funny (or something) but other players can't tell you're just raging for the sake of raging
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If people were insulted by my graveyard posts (possibly BT since I was browbeating him when he came in from the lynch)
Nope. I said this more than once. Mafia Rage is Mafia Rage. You shouldn't get easily insulted by anything Mafia-related unless you have a very good reason to think the dude means it.
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For all that this means coming from me, the list of people I have less than zero desire to play with or have in my games is longer than one name.
I hope I'm not on that list :ohdear:
I'm a bit concerned at this stage the thread is becoming a passive-aggressive "you know who you are" type of thing. We're talking about people who are being insulting or playing badly and aside from LLD nobody is willing to call anyone else out on it.
I for one don't have any issues with the current playerbase. I'm with BT's "Mafia play is different from regular attitudes", and I'm a very tough-skinned person in general. People telling me to step up my game just adds fuel to the burning passion to lynch the scum and claim victory for the townie overlords.
Although I'm not sure if my own play style comes off as rude, hence uncertainty about this whole "no names" situation.
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nnr i think your problem is just that you exaggerate graveyard stuff because you think it's funny (or something) but other players can't tell you're just raging for the sake of raging
See? Everyone could use a little constructive criticism sometimes. Huhwhat probably hit the nail on the head with me :P
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Copying it here because I think it may be useful to consider:
<Bardiche> To dumb it down:
<Bardiche> When a kid holds a bucket of water, you can tell it to either "hold on tight" (positive) or "don't drop it" (negative).
<Bardiche> The positive affirms an action you should take, the negative restricts actions you should take.
<Bardiche> Uttering more negative than positive restricts someone's actions, someone whose actions are restricted will feel helpless and helplessness induces depression.
<Bardiche> Positive utterances increase or enforce the number of actions someone can take, thereby granting or enlargening their freedom of movement, thereby granting them emotional security and permitting them to develop.
Basically by telling people what they did wrong you're only restricting the actions they can take (because usually people want to get praise and will avoid doing things that nets them insults due to the Self-Improvement Urge everyone has) and by telling them what they did right you improve the quality of their actions. Raging and calling others dumb fucks may be gratifying but it's not psychologically affirmative action.
I'm a bit concerned at this stage the thread is becoming a passive-aggressive "you know who you are" type of thing. We're talking about people who are being insulting or playing badly and aside from LLD nobody is willing to call anyone else out on it.
If I gave off that impression then I apologise. I didn't want to particularly single anyone out (but brazenly did so in my last post; Apologies, IHNN, LSD) but I did feel that there was a problem where people repeatedly raged after a Mafia game and not in a good way.
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i don't think revealing names would be a bad idea because people aren't going to improve in this situation if they don't know who they are
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i don't think revealing names would be a bad idea because people aren't going to improve in this situation if they don't know who they are
agree.
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If I gave off that impression then I apologise. I didn't want to particularly single anyone out (but brazenly did so in my last post; Apologies, IHNN, LSD) but I did feel that there was a problem where people repeatedly raged after a Mafia game and not in a good way.
The only times I've raged post-game was after I felt like I made the mistake that cost the game.
Rage-y after MC Mafia? Yeah, although less so since I took it as a learning experience of what to do when the pressure is on.
Dissapointed after Shadoweh's game, even though I won? Of course. I would have liked to have done better, but Chaore did a pretty good job not being targeted.
That filler game...technically I caught scum :V The rage there was due to the setup being unbalanced though (2 v 5 vanilla essentially) and me not realizing a possible "scumteam" until after it was too late. I played like a derp there and I know it though, but I don't think it would have changed anything.
and then Popcorn Mafia is the only game I've played thus far that I was pretty happy with how I played.
and it's cool, I know you were just using a concrete example instead of a hypothetical scenario
i don't think revealing names would be a bad idea because people aren't going to improve in this situation if they don't know who they are
exactly-there's only so much improvement a person can make on their own, and if you don't know something's wrong you can't fix it.
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On that note I haven't played with Px, Dormio, and Schezo in a while, but I'm pretty sure they'll all be scum together this game, I just know it!
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WIFOM and the game hasn't even started yet. Good job. :derp:
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on that note if LSD is banned from Mafiers Affinity has 12/13 players, I'm sorry Affinity you can blame me and bar me from your game. ;_;
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on that note if LSD is banned from Mafiers Affinity has 12/13 players, I'm sorry Affinity you can blame me and bar me from your game. ;_;
Just add Bard into the main playerlist :V
Reposting sign-ups assuming that change because signups/playerlist are 3 pages back.
1. Serela
2. PX
3. Shadoweh
4. dr rawr
5. Edible
6. Omba
7. NekoNekoRex
8. Dormio
9. huhwhat
10. ActionDan
11. Schezo
12. LLD Bardiche
13. BT
Replacements:
Bardiche
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forcing bard to sub into a bastard mod game is probably a better punishment than exiling him
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forcing bard to sub into a bastard mod game is probably a better punishment than exiling him
Affinity is on the short list of players I'd trust with a bastard mod game, so
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Considering that by the new rules I need my set-up approved and my role-pm's ready to go ere HW's game begins, I am requesting an experienced reviewer at this time. IHNN is presently serving as Co-Mod and is helping.
I have written all of one role PM knowing that the game is bastard and may very well need extensive balance.
PM me if interested.
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Considering that by the new rules I need my set-up approved and my role-pm's ready to go ere HW's game begins, I am requesting an experienced reviewer at this time. IHNN is presently serving as Co-Mod and is helping.
I have written all of one role PM knowing that the game is bastard and may very well need extensive balance.
PM me if interested.
Not that I'm much help for balance :V
This does remind me that I'll need mine reviewed at some point as well (and a co-mod would help too but neither are imminent)
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[20:49] <Affinity> eh, is Bard playing?
[20:50] <Edible> Apparently he chickened out. So no.
[20:50] <Bardiche> I didn't chicken out!
[20:50] <Edible> Oh, he is playing.
[20:50] <Edible> Nevermind.
[20:51] <Bardiche> I didn't say I was playing!
[20:51] <Edible> So you did chicken out.
[20:51] <Leona_Dormisaki> chickeeeen
[20:51] <Bardiche> I didn't chicken out!
[20:51] <Edible> Oh, he is playing.
[20:51] <Bardiche> I never said I'd play to begin with!
[20:51] <Edible> Nevermind.
[20:51] <Bardiche> You guys decided that I'd play!
[20:51] <Bardiche> Ffffffffff
[20:51] <Bardiche> I'll lynch you D1.
With that said, Bardiche is playing.
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How useful would an automatic votecount Excel spreadsheet be? As in, put in who each person is currently voting for and it outputs a votecount ready to be copy-pasted in. I put one together for use in this game, and if it would be useful I can make a more generalized version for use in, well, any game.
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But calling out incorrect vote counts are fun! Plus it gives co-mods something to do
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But calling out incorrect vote counts are fun! Plus it gives co-mods something to do
If the input is wrong then the votecount will be wrong though, it just makes the process less tedious :V
and I thought co-mods do votecounts anyways, at least that's what I think I've seen.
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/in to host Mirai Nikki Mafia co-hosted by K4U once I convince her this is a good idea. 100% guanteed to have actual power roles this time.
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/in to host Mirai Nikki Mafia co-hosted by K4U once I convince her this is a good idea. 100% guanteed to have actual power roles this time.
O-Of course! Help, I'm being held against my will.
So yeah, I'll co-mod
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I would suggest everyone in the current game add a custom title and personal text (if they haven't already) to make Control-F'ing slightly more feasible.
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Or you can just look at the names :V
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Check "Don't show users' avatars" under "Look and Layout."
Problem solved.
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There's also the wonderful display name, nickname, and signature to go by.
IF ALL ELSE FAILS, FOLLOW HW'S COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO DISCOVERING ANONYMAFIA IDENTITIES (http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/MotKAnonymafiaIdentificationGuidebyHW.png).
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Check "Don't show users' avatars" under "Look and Layout."
Problem solved.
Helps soooo much.
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So for those of you who don't know, I made a pseudo-automated votecount generator in Microsoft Excel for ease of use in this game. It worked very well, made mine and Affinity's jobs a lot easier. Now that I've modified it to work with 16 players max instead of 13, it can conceivably be used for any game run on this site.
download link: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?vagnr8vh0g9jhbu
Please alert me to any bugs found, instructions are in the first page of the spreadsheet.
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I officially endorse the above excel spreadsheet. Props to IHaveNoName for coming up with it.
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Just dropping an idea I had:
Since LaL is practically never implemented, I thought of a way to sort-of make it possible even in the current meta. Include a second lynch for D1 and maybe D2 where the players can decide to lynch one of the two or three people with the least posts (not counting confirmation phase); no-lynch being an option even if no lynch is not allowed for the regular lynch. No additional nightkill if the lurker lynch happens.
Alternatively, include one or two vigs that can shoot someone based on least amount of posts.
This would obviously need some tweaking for balance & amount of players and some more thought put into the exact implementation, but I think it could work and might over time change the meta, if only because lurking would now actually be punished.
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TAR AND FEATHER.
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If you're referring to the prod system in Shadoweh's game, then that doesn't have the effect this is aiming for. We had a two prod = modkill system in Affinity's game, too.
And while that works to guarantee at least a certain degree of participation, there's still no punishment if you just barely make it.
With what I'm proposing, there's always an incentive to post more if you're among the players with the least amount of posts.
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Signups for next game will begin after I get home.
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Re: Omba,
That raises issues in regards to the quantity and/or quality of posts though.
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I think Tar and Feather should have been used freely (disabled during LYLO). If people think ____ is posting just enough to bypass prods but is barely playing at all, they can lash at them anyway.
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Signups for next game will begin after I get home.
For people like me who know nothing, how long will that be?
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Sometime after Otakon ends, I assume.
So in around ~3 days?
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oh man I hope it's anon choose your character I can't wait to /in as Wrathie!
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Dormio: It sure does. We currently do lynch active lurkers, though, which covers one end. And I like to think we'd start lynching people that try to respond to this by making several posts with next to no content instead of one post with not much content, too.
There's also possible tweaks like only counting posts with at least, say, 20 words for this.
BT: That raises the issue of who can be tarred and feathered, though. This is not supposed to give town two freely decidable lynches on who they think is the most likely to be scum, but rather the option to prune those players that contribute the least amount of content and are hard to read as a result of this, without town getting the punishment of a nightkill for it.
The main problem with LaL is that it's only effective over multiple games as long as town is roughly as likely to lurk as scum. If the punishment for killing lurkers is significantly reduced, the strategy becomes much more viable.
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There's also possible tweaks like only counting posts with at least, say, 20 words for this.
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Yup, I would lynch for (repeatedly) doing this.
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My rulesets tend to just say lurkers are your problem. Deal with it yourself, i.e. enforce lurker lynches at a player level than a rules level.
Edible count me pre-/in as per my post in NHK postgame.
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Somebody halp i forgot how to play town
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Stop rolling scum and maybe you'll remember.
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I think what Omba means is, "Kaori" play is very optimal because Town can't always afford mislynching someone for being an asshole and not playing (or pretending to be) because most games don't allow more than 3 mislynches... and have more than 3 lurkers/scum.
MOTK Meta prefers to lynch people on merit of what they do, not of what they don't do. Scum can win the game by not playing at all, because Townies are naturally averse to lynching people for not playing the game instead of lynching people for being scum. Sadly, MOTK Town thinks not playing the game is actually pretty cool/a viable strategy, and when I say that I'm looking at Schezo (last game), PX (most games), Rawr (most games), Pesco (Angel Beats), Shadoweh (last game), Omba (last game), ActionDan to some extent with V/LA every game multiple times. Probably more that I can't be arsed to remember and thus name, but lurking and coasting isn't exclusively scummy on MOTK.
We can policy lynch people for lurking/coasting, but since it's a Town-favoured strategy employed by some of the players it's tantamount to surrendering Town's major weapon.
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Pesco: I know. The problem is that only works if enough town players care enough about the game to make an effort not to lurk just because of this. Given how long that problem has been around (I saw it mentioned in at least one of the threads I linked in the post-game earlier), it seems likely it won't get solved by the players alone. What also factors in is that regardless of the fact that it helps scum to hide, town players may still think that it's not a problem to do it for various reasons - other town players are doing it, too, so even if they don't lurk themselves, scum can still hide; I'm not posting much, but I make my posts count; I'm a power role, so lurking is a good way to avoid getting too much attention; :effort:. And the list goes on.
Short of mods arbitrarily picking who they want in their game, I don't see another solution for this.
Yup, that's exactly it, Bardiche.
Also pre-/in, too
Edit: Note that I'm not saying scum should not lurk as long as it's a viable strategy. The fact that it is one in the first place is the problem and I see no good way for town to change this without giving up playing to their wincon (or all players that tend to lurk magically improving by themselves).
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But since it's so easy for scum to coast and not get punished for it, we should be doing our best to stop it from being a 'viable town strategy'. LAL enough times and people will stop, is the way I see it (or at least the logical conclusion).
edit: Alternatively we can try smaller games and substitute lurkers without a second thought.
So are we going to pre-/in now? I can do that.
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only works if enough town players care enough about the game to make an effort not to lurk just because of this.
Will you be the man to take the first step? Or are you a sheep?
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Yeah, I think I like my suggestion. People can ##nominate lurkers and the mod subs them out.
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Pesco: I plan on doing that, games where I roll scum excluded.
BT: This is true, but it means you have a much higher chance of town losing until the meta changes.
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I wanted to policy lynch the coasters/sheep this game, and see how that turned out. I don't think the current meta even -wants- to waste its lynches on correcting people's behaviour, so we're stuck in a rut. People need to re-evaluate the goal of the game and the goal of their play and harmonise those two, instead of being in it "just to use roles" or "just so I can follow Person X" or "eh, nothing better to do let's just in for when I have some free time".
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I certainly don't want to waste lynches on correcting people, simply because I always play to win the current game.
Take the last game. If I'm not mistaken, there were at least as many town players going full on sheep mode at times as there were scum.
Edit: But I may actually agree to implement it for D1 at least.
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but then how would i ever play scum?
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Rawr exists to be policy lynched. He's just daring us to do it.
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Which is why I intend(ed) to just replace into games, if Day 1 is laden with OHGOD I know not to replace in! If it's actually cools I can sub in.
I can also avoid unpleasant players.
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That makes it more likely games will turn out in a way that makes you not want to replace in, though. And ideally, you won't get a chance to replace in anyway because no one replaces out.
Meh, I'll test some variation of the method I proposed once my turn to mod comes around. We'll see how it works out.
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YOU CAN'T RUN FROM YOURSELF FOREVER BARD!
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Rawr exists to be policy lynched. He's just daring us to do it.
so mean QQ
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And ideally, you won't get a chance to replace in anyway because no one replaces out.
:V That's a risk I gladly take.
YOU CAN'T RUN FROM YOURSELF FOREVER BARD!
I'll only play for sure if I can be the moe.
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I will say I feel the closest I got to being lynched for my behaviour in the NHK was Day 3 when I put on :seriousface: and said some words about cases. Reverting to posting about my dinner seemed to have turned the attention away again. <_<
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ffff Pesco laying down the gauntlet.
I will say I feel the closest I got to being lynched for my behaviour in the NHK was Day 3 when I put on :seriousface: and said some words about cases. Reverting to posting about my dinner seemed to have turned the attention away again. <_<
Well, that's a problem isn't it.
/in for the next game to policy lynch all AngelBeats!Pescos, trolls, and the like. Bad play is scummy.
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Pushing a policy lynch is no excuse for not scumhunting. I would hope people don't forget that.
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Only pushing a policy lynch without doing any scumhunting is in itself grounds for a policy lynch, I'd say.
Also Bard, with the players that /inned so far, that clearly means you need to /in, too.
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/pre-in? V/LA over weekend.
deal with it, or lynch me.
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Pesco, I have already explained why your argument doesn't work *several times*. I have no idea why you keep saying that if we want to fix the meta we have to start policy lynching people for playing badly. If I'm town, lynching people I don't think are scum goes directly against my wincon. Let's assume for a moment that policy lynching people does improve the site meta and does make future games more enjoyable. It still doesn't change I'd be no better than ReVelske if I was playing the current game for the sole purpose of making future games better. It's unsportsmanlike, rude to the mod of the current game, and I'm basically not even playing the game anymore.
So yeah. I don't know how many times I have to make this point before you get that the players can't punish people for bad play in the way you're suggesting. The only way to improve the current meta is for the individual players to really want to play better, and then doing so. I'll cite JJBM for me. It's what I consider my best town game. My sole goal that game was to delurk as town, and I forced myself to post and to not lurk during RVS and stuff like that. I think it improved my town game quite a bit, so here's my suggestion to people that want to get better at the game: identify what you think your weakest point is and go into the next game trying to fix it. It may take a few games to fix, so don't get discouraged if it doesn't happen right away. If you're not sure what your weak points are feel free to drop me a query in IRC. I haven't been playing, but I've been reading, so I'd be willing to try to help identify aspects of play that need improving.
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Kitten4u: Although that's to some degree what I had said earlier, there is the point that at least part of the players very obviously aren't going to change much unless they get their asses kicked - i.e. unless they are forced to improve.
If I remember correctly, you stopped playing because people don't care / put not enough effort into the game. If more of the competent players end up doing this, we'll be left with less and less good players, which exacerbates the problem. And the competent players that do stay regardless may lower their standard of play too because of :effort:. Both of these have already happened, I think.
I've come to think going for policy lynches on at least D1 may actually have merit - in part because D1 lynches often aren't much more than killing off the player that made some mistake that gets players to pile onto him, anyway. So we're at the very least not losing much by doing this as far as the current game is concerned. And while consciously doing something that lowers the chance of winning in any way does go against the spirit of the game, there's the question if making that sacrifice in a few games isn't worth it in the long run if the alternative is continuing to play on our current level.
That's not to say your offer to give advice to players that want to improve won't help, but I doubt it'll be enough by itself.
(To be sure, I'm thankful that you're willing to help even if you're not currently playing yourself).
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I've come to think going for policy lynches on at least D1 may actually have merit - in part because D1 lynches often aren't much more than killing off the player that made some mistake that gets players to pile onto him, anyway.
now the lynch shadoweh d1 voting block can finally be realized
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V/LA over weekend.
deal with it, or lynch me.
Pre-/out.
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If they already don't care, "getting their asses kicked" probably won't make them care more, AND doing that means you're not doing all you can to play to your wincon. That is seriously the entire issue: people aren't doing everything they can to play to their wincon. If people would start doing that then there'd be less issues at least. There's really no way to force people to care about playing.
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Dan should Hydra-only if he's only going to be online half the time
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I think the issue here is not that people aren't trying to play to their wincon, but that they're not trying enough.
Oh hey, we could try lurker hydras.
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now the lynch shadoweh d1 voting block can finally be realized
:V
Joke aside, that'll depend entirely on how she plays. I'd generally think a rawr in super lurker mode or a Serela with a serious case of the waffles would make better policy lynches. We'll see.
Thinking about it some more, going for the policy lynch on D1 does force scum to either post more actual content or be threatened with a lynch that could very well hit them, so whether it actually does lower town's odds of winning doesn't seem that clear anymore.
Kitten4u: Well. If they end up getting lynched D1 every time because they refuse to make an effort, they won't have much choice if they actually want to play more than just a few days every few weeks.
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The one problem I can see in the policy lynch thing is new players who don't know what they're doing. They do something stupid, get lynched D1 and don't improve. Next game, same thing happens.
In terms of odds of winning a policy lynch is a complete crapshoot. Keine would have a much better chance :V
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Last game for me before I have more important things to do than mafia. Let's see if MoTK can indeed terraform its meta within a game or two (though I doubt it will come to anything).
Actually, can anyone remind me how the D1 lynches the previous games have *not* been 'policy lynches'? Hasn't a blend of Serela, Dormio, and PX been lynched every D1 for some obvious mistake? I find that concept pretty dumb anyways when it's so implicit in our meta.
And it's not as if they aren't trying their very best to play the game, as they have said in chat not long ago.
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Pre-/out.
hey don't worry, I'm due to get a scum role PM any day now.
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hey don't worry, I'm due to get a scum role PM any day now.
Actually, can anyone remind me how the D1 lynches the previous games have *not* been 'policy lynches'? Hasn't a blend of Serela, Dormio, and PX been lynched every D1 for some obvious mistake? I find that concept pretty dumb anyways when it's so implicit in our meta.
Best Idea Mafia, as much as I like to pretend that game never happened :V
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Best Idea Mafia, as much as I like to pretend that game never happened :V
I obviously got policy lynched for being town!
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Best Idea Mafia was not a game :V
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Is this player who makes low content posts and votes erratically town aligned or not town aligned? When pressed to explain their words, they don't give a straight answer. When asked to produce suspects, they don't show any solid stances. Is this player scummy or not?
If such a player is not scummy enough for you to lynch, why are they worth keeping alive?
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Is this player who makes low content posts and votes erratically town aligned or not town aligned? When pressed to explain their words, they don't give a straight answer. When asked to produce suspects, they don't show any solid stances. Is this player scummy or not?
If such a player is not scummy enough for you to lynch, why are they worth keeping alive?
Isn't this the essence of every supposedly decent D1 post ever, before people go on to try to look at D1 wagons D2? How is what you are proposing different from the current meta?
The only other decent D1 post is to accuse the above poster of going after an easy target. The ensuing argument becomes interesting. This is the bedrock of most D1s.
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A player who becomes an easy target because of doing scummy stuff has brought the lynch upon themselves for doing said scummy things. If someone is being scummy, they should be lynched. The current meta would rather make an excuse for the player as being 'an easy target' or 'does it every game, ignore'. If your normal play is scummy, then you will be shown it by being lynched every time.
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^ Depends. Dormio was an easy lynch in aBGoM and ended up being the correct lynch. Px was a disgustingly easy lynch in Midnight crew Mafia, and the people going after him were scum (Affinity, HW). However! in that same game, Serela could have been considered an easy lynch D1 for lurking, it would have been correct to lynch her. having the "easy lynches" step up their game helps, but it's not essential to finding scum D1.
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If you think they're scum you should lynch them. If you don't think they're scum you should lynch someone else. Lynching someone because you don't like the way they play when you're town is just unsportsmanlike and spiteful.
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if i lurk harder would you lynch me d1 :V
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There's a difference between "You should be more open to lynching people for ____ because it's terrible and scummy" (Why Kaori/Rawr last game needed death) and "Policy Lynch".
Saying lynching rawr d2 or d3 or d4 of last game would be policy lynch for lurking would have been silly.
A lot of the time people seem to say policy lynch in a context it doesn't actually apply.
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A player who becomes an easy target because of doing scummy stuff has brought the lynch upon themselves for doing said scummy things. If someone is being scummy, they should be lynched. The current meta would rather make an excuse for the player as being 'an easy target' or 'does it every game, ignore'. If your normal play is scummy, then you will be shown it by being lynched every time.
My point is that these people get lynched early every single time but no marked 'improvement' has been shown despite them trying a decent bit at playing the game. This trend is already happening to no effect, and is in fact the reason why D1's are so useless these days! The easy target happens to not be scum, and scum can just jump onto that wagon for perfectly valid reasons!
Arguing against such lynches is actually good for D1 as it causes alternative wagons to form and forces scum to more clearly defined their opinions, and policy lynching tends to take that away.
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My point is that these people get lynched early every single time but no marked 'improvement' has been shown despite them trying a decent bit at playing the game. This trend is already happening to no effect, and is in fact the reason why D1's are so useless these days! The easy target happens to not be scum, and scum can just jump onto that wagon for perfectly valid reasons!
Then there's really no point to continue playing Mafia here.
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errrrr if you guys are referring to me im pretty sure i had a scummy excuse :V
if not then w/e
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Actually, can anyone remind me how the D1 lynches the previous games have *not* been 'policy lynches'? Hasn't a blend of Serela, Dormio, and PX been lynched every D1 for some obvious mistake? I find that concept pretty dumb anyways when it's so implicit in our meta.
If I remember correctly, we haven't lynched someone on the basis of only "doesn't post much" on at least D1 in a long time.
If they get lynched for some stupid reason, then it's not so obvious how they can change that. On the other hand, if they get lynched for a clearly stated reason that they can avoid by changing their play, I would think it at least could work better. And by that I mean all the things we currently often excuse because of the player's meta.
rawr, no one cares if you play in a way that would be detrimental to town if you were town instead of scum. The point is just that you can get away with it as scum because other people do it too and you have a meta of lurking (at least I think you do, don't quite remember how you played last time you were town).
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rawr, no one cares if you play in a way that would be detrimental to town if you were town instead of scum. The point is just that you can get away with it as scum because other people do it too and you have a meta of lurking (at least I think you do, don't quite remember how you played last time you were town).
Lynching someone because you don't like the way they play when you're town is just unsportsmanlike and spiteful.
And thus Rawr can never be lynched because it's mean to him.
Scum can happily take the policy lynch approach. It's reducing enemy numbers and well within their win condition. If you want to argue otherwise for scum's point of view, then we're talking about different games here.
If town was enforcing a policy lynch, which policy is being enforced? Lynch all Lurkers? Lynch all Liars? Lynch all players whose name has a D in it? What I've been saying is that people who do clearly scummy things deserve to get lynched. The policy is to lynch the obvious scum in front of me. Lynching scummy people is town's win condition because town has to remove all threats to town. A scummy player will be read as scum, if you've hunted them as such, that is part of the game.
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And thus Rawr can never be lynched because it's mean to him.
Urgh, that was worded awkwardly on my part. What I meant to say is there's no problem if you play like shit as scum if it allows you to go unlynched. It's a problem if you do it as town and very much a problem that you can get away with it as scum in the first place.
So policy lynch until it stops regardless of alignment.
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All this talk of punishment this and policy lynch that. Rewards always work better then punishments. Not lynching people for doing better would be rewarding. We have to agree to recognize effort and lynch those who are not putting in effort (because not putting in effort should be scum apathy settling in). Townies should want to do good. Be proud of your green heritage!
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I like how you do not have hunting or lynching scum as a priority.
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My priority has always been having fun. If you can't enjoy the game you'll never play it well. How do you expect to put in effort into something that makes you groan every time you read it? I remember when reading the graveyard was filled with encouragement and enjoyment of just watching the confusion. Now it's like all the dead people got held up at the gates and sent to a self-perpetuating hell. Telling people they suck doesn't make them better, it makes them believe they suck.
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How do you expect to put in effort into something that makes you groan every time you read it?
Story of my life.
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people scumhunting and posting :words: and shit is more fun than having to wade through 30 pages of twitterposting and one-liners every time you want to re-read imo
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I give up. I'll be on MafiaScum when you need me.
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Good luck, Bard. You'll need it. :V
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My priority has always been having fun. If you can't enjoy the game you'll never play it well.
Your priority should always be to play to your win con to the best of your ability for the sake of your teammates and out of social respect for your fellow players and the GM. Mafia is still a team game, and if the only way someone wants/are able to play it is as an island then they need to get the hell out and let the people that actually understand the social commitment Mafia requires play and not worry about someone throwing the entire game on its ear just because they're playing for no one but themselves.
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You make Mafia sound like a chore, like being drafted into the army. Mafia is a social game. The point of games are to have fun playing them. Not to please the elitist standards people make up after years of playtesting. This has two parts. a) have fun b) play the game. I find it weird you make it sound like if you're enjoying yourself you're playing wrong.
I've never said you should have fun instead of 'playing to wincon'. Having fun playing the game isn't seperable. The group will not enjoy themselves if people are not playing by the rules. The group will also not enjoy themselves if the majority of them are not having fun playing. Right now the problem is people are not having fun playing mafia. The reason seems to be that no one feels playing mafia is worth it. So they don't put much effort into it. Which means we're causing our own problems because no one cares enough to post words and read the words people post.
I'm saying instead of constantly fueling negativity by putting each other down and concentrating on the worst parts of everyone's performances, people should try to focus on the good things that did happen and talk about how we can improve. I'm amazed we're having this talk after a game that objectively, town did amazing in. The doc got off a protect, the town were shorted by both an imposed modkill and no less then three extra town deaths due to the setup, and in the end game huh what somehow through LOGIC realized that the scum team had shot themselves and we still won.
But no. All anyone can concentrate on is how town was horrible. Everyone was idiots. People need to be taken to task for this negativity that we're imposing on ourselves by treating each other as jerks even after the game is over. We will never get better until we're friends playing a game that we enjoy together again.
tl;dr LOVE AND PEACE works better then INCREASE PRISON SIZES
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Well, yes, obviously everyone playing should be striving to both have fun and play to their wincon. I took 'my priority is to have fun' to mean 'my priority is not to play to my wincon because there is something I value more'. If that was not the intended message, then I apologize.
The problem, though, is that I'm not convinced MotK is completely devoid of people that prioritize having fun over respecting their teammates and playing to their wincon (which is why I thought that's what you were saying). Perhaps this sentiment is better served thusly:
- If playing to win means sacrificing having fun, then, for your own sake, don't play.
- If having fun means not playing to your wincon or respecting your fellow players, then, for the sake of your fellow players, don't play.
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Well, yes, obviously everyone playing should be striving to both have fun and play to their wincon. I took 'my priority is to have fun' to mean 'my priority is not to play to my wincon because there is something I value more'. If that was not the intended message, then I apologize.
That is what I meant. I can see why it would come out that way. When I say to have fun, I mean for Everyone to have fun. Because I like all of you very much. <^_______^>
The problem, though, is that I'm not convinced MotK is completely devoid of people that prioritize having fun over respecting their teammates and playing to their wincon (which is why I thought that's what you were saying).
I don't think someone who never intends to play mafia in the first place should sign up. But I think we've been giving mixed signals about the benefits of posting content. People have to agree together that we will play the game and read people's posts so that effort isn't wasted. Policy lynching contentless players has to be combined with not picking a contentless player over a player who has said more because they gave more rope to hang themselves. How to say.. we need to tell people when they're good as much as when they're bad! And it needs to not be in passive aggressive form, like "Serela is Town MVP and that is the only good thing about this shitfest of a game."
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Are we going to really start debating this for three days, while players threaten to stop playing because they're fed up?
I'll be sad if I don't roll scum before MotkMafia dies off completely.
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you don't treat the lone student to score a 30 on a test to ice cream when everyone else scored a 15
By all means, do something commendable first before you act like you're entitled to a reward.
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I agree that an actual in-game differentiation has to be made as to who is scummier between an active person who has done scummy things and an inactive person who has not done scummy things. One of the games where I was most furious was one where I picked the actively scummy person (who was scum) or either of the two lurkers (who were town).
People do indeed need to be judged by what they say and what they don't say. Someone who talks a lot and says lots of scummy things is actively scummy. Someone who says extremely little and what little is there isn't meaningful is passively scummy. Both are scummy and both need to be lynched, but which one is worse is determined on a game-by-game basis. People have been defaulting to 'actively scummy is worse', which is why we get stuff like Kaori Kanzaki or Rawr this past game. Defaulting to 'passively scummy is worse' isn't much better, but it certainly looks more appealing at present because it'll get asses in gear (or those asses will get the rope).
I don't think the message is intended to be "mindlessly default to LAL". I see it more as "be more open to LAL because scum keep lurking and town keeps letting them."
Fake edit: There is that too, yes. I am more than open and willing to giving a good game the commendation it deserves, but it has to be played before I do so.
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Kilga just wants to tap ass :3
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Are we going to really start debating this for three days, while players threaten to stop playing because they're fed up?
This is just mafia players finding something to argue about while they wait for Edible to get home from Ottercon. :D
I think a better metaphor for the situation is you don't treat depression by giving out cyanide pills.
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Are we going to really start debating this for three days, while players threaten to stop playing because they're fed up?
I'll be sad if I don't roll scum before MotkMafia dies off completely.
I think NekoNekoRex is the scum.
##VOTE: NekoNekoRex
I can get where Shadomeh is coming from, and I could easily write up all the things everyone did right and great. Is it worth it? I don't think so. Obviously the way I like to play Mafia and the way MoTK plays Mafia is different, and I don't think it's healthy for us to continuously be pining for better play in Mafia. We've been doing this for months, and we've only gone backwards if the last game is any indication.
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And the alternative is what, giving up? No thanks, I'd rather try to fix things.
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I play mafia like dota.
Tell the noobs on my team to stop feeding and carry them to victory by being more skilled than the other team. It doesn't always work out but I always try to improve on my play first.
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Question: If you could point at one exceptional example of a 'good game' that took place here, what would it be?
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Question: If you could point at one exceptional example of a 'good game' that took place here, what would it be?
Popcorn Mafia as the best of the 7-8 games I've seen here.
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Question: If you could point at one exceptional example of a 'good game' that took place here, what would it be?
Off the top of my head, I thought Moriya Shrine Revolution and Mafia Rules Mafia were played well by all sides for the most part.
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Question: If you could point at one exceptional example of a 'good game' that took place here, what would it be?
Moriya Shrine Revolution.
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I might be biased because "first game lol" but I liked Bunny Must Die Mafia most out of all the games I've been in so far
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Question: If you could point at one exceptional example of a 'good game' that took place here, what would it be?
games i'd consider "good" from most recent to furthest back:
C7D
Path of Radiance
Cavalier of the Abyss
Moriya Shrine II
Moriya Shrine Revolution
there's also psycho's plot which was an example of excellent town play vs. bad scum play and worse mod play
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Indeed, Psycho Plot had the best town game I remember. As for best game, I'd say Moriya Shrine II
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games i'd consider "good" from most recent to furthest back:
C7D
Path of Radiance
Cavalier of the Abyss
Moriya Shrine II
Moriya Shrine Revolution
Would also add WTC to that list. GWU is pretty alright as well. Town players actually question people and listen to each other ; they also change their views according to the situation, making them unpredictable to scum and forcing them to pump out solid content and treasure every vote/opinion not against them. If town do not have the above qualities, and stubbornly tunnel on their pet scumreads without any range, as has been the general trend lately, then they are generally free because if they are wrong, they are wrong.
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wtc and gwu were from before my time and the re-uploads of them seem to have been deleted
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Aka Kilga hosted games?
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aBGoM was a pretty good game.
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ten desires was a pretty good game also, everyone played really well. :V
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ten desires was a pretty good game also, everyone played really well. :V
Found the traitor. Lynch before he joins the scum.
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Aka Kilga hosted games?
Clearly the problem is when I play. :V
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aBGoM was a pretty good game.
Why yes, that was :colonveeplusalpha:
I honestly can't remember a game I played in that I thought was well played by all sides. Don't remember enough of the other games in the archives to judge the rest.
But I'll be reading through some of the older games that have been mentioned; sounds like good material for improving play.
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Clearly the problem is when I play. :V
I think Kilga should be banned from Mafia.
##VOTE: Kilga
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Aight, I would like to sign up for whatever mafia we're doing next :P
I've played quite a few custom forum Mafia games before, such as this (http://www.staredit.net/topic/14473/0/) and this (http://www.staredit.net/topic/14142/0/). Unfortunately you can't tell a lot about what was going on in those Mafia games from the threads, as SEN mafia is heavily based on PM and shoutbox exchanges between players :P
Now I must say beforehand that no one should expect a whole lot from me, as in all the previous mafia rounds I played I used my rep as "that stupid 12 (WRONG) year old kid" to my advantage :P I do know the basic mafia rules and some strats though. Sadly as a townie I'm not very good at telling friend from foe, although I can say I'm a pretty good scum/3rd party ;o
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The new signups will start as soon as Otakon is over and Edible puts up the sign-ups here. Welcome Wrathie #12! There is absolutely no PMing other players in our games and using your 12 year old reputation here will probably get you deservedly lynched. Look forward to that!
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If you are 12, then you'll be COPPA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Online_Privacy_Protection_Act)-banned until you are of age. Just a formality.
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If you are 12, then you'll be COPPA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Online_Privacy_Protection_Act)-banned until you are of age. Just a formality.
"that stupid 12 (WRONG) year old kid"
I'm actually 15.
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Shadoweh, it's a crime. Don't do it.
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Oh hey, a new guy. Now I don't get to be the lowest rung on the latter anymore >=3
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Alright, based on current conditions I'm going to be discarding my planned experimental game and running another open setup similar to ABGoM, in the hopes of reducing stress levels and increasing player awareness. I'll post the setup when it's ready; please do not /in yet.
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> open setup
> No setup speculation
> Drastically reduced amount of ridiculous gambits
Yes. <3
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discarding my planned experimental game
Q_Q I really wanted that vanilla survivor role
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Q_Q I really wanted that vanilla survivor role
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN KILGAMAYAN
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Personally I wouldn't mind if we consider this an "interim" game and let Ediblah run his setup after this. Not sure how others'd feel though.
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Personally I wouldn't mind if we consider this an "interim" game and let Ediblah run his setup after this. Not sure how others'd feel though.
It's fine. I think the caveat here is that we need, in general, to run way fewer ridiculous setups than we currently do.
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Put me up again on the modding queue. Tsukihime or something.
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Yes we need more open games so we can systematically lynch down a list of possible suspects just like Zombie Mafia. :D
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Welcome to Adorable Game of Mafia, where you are things that are cute! But things can be cute and evil at the same time, or something. I guess. Whatever.
This will be a 12-player open setup centered around informational roles. Each day will also have a minor posting restriction of some sort that should not impact the game in any significant manner.
1 Mafia Godfather (Returns cop results as Town)
1 Mafia Rolecop (May target a player at night to learn their role)
1 Mafia Strongman Assassin Sniper Hitman Ninja Vigilante Executioner (is actually a goon)
1 Tracker (May target a player every night to learn if they targeted someone else with an ability)
1 Cop* (May target a player at night to learn their alignment)
1 Confused Innocent Child (Thinks they're vanilla town until Day 2 begins, and are then revealed to the game as confirmed town)
1 Voyeur (May target a player at night to determine what actions, if any, were taken against them)
5 Vanilla Townies (May form Voltron, the ultimate townie voting block)
* - The cop will be limited in some fashion; I haven't decided how yet. Since it's an open setup, feel free to offer suggestions; I'm currently leaning towards x-shot.
A) Affinity
B) BT
C) Serela
D) Omba
E) Raitaki
F) Pesco
G) NekoNekoRex
H) huh what
I) IHNN
J) Shadoweh
K) Kilgamayan
L) PX
Signups are now open. Hooray!
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/in as previously declared.
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/in.
Put me on E :3
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/in
no moar scum plz
if i am scumz: Mafia Strongman Assassin Sniper Hitman Ninja Vigilante Executioner please
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/in
I expect you to be significantly more active than you have been in previous games. Yes?
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depends if im scum or not
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We're sure this isn't too much emphasis on info roles? Guess I'm worried it'll take the place of scumhunting eventually. /in either way.
Don't expect the same abundance of free time I had during the last two games. Mmm, maybe I'll automatically go back to my wall post meta now. I-I think I actually play better that way.
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Hmmm about the Cop role...how about preventing them from being able to discover a target's alignment if they use an action on the Cop the same night? You can also give the vanillas and child a neutral visiting action that they MUST use every night that doesn't appear to the Tracker as an ability being used on their target to nerf Cop even further.
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I am the thgink that says in.
Tangentially related to copnerf: I'd consider throwing an unaware miller into this setup.
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/in
Hopefully with a power role this time, playing a vanilla gets old after a little :V
Also hopefully not as scum >.> though I do need to work on that.
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/in
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unaware miller is very scum-sided imo.
and the other suggestion from the new-guy is a biiit complex.
either X-shot cop or make the cop ---> a vanilla cop, whose result gives back "vanilla" or "not vanilla" (returns false positive on confused innocent child and false negative on Mafia God-father)
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The cop must eat donuts during the day or else he can't use his power. This must be proven via actual photos of donuts.
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^well there's a posting restricting.
also in false negative and false positive both equal "vanilla."
also /in
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The cop must eat donuts during the day or else he can't use his power. This must be proven via actual photos of donuts.
Oh noez.
If I get cop, can I eat something like pizza instead? :(
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Clearly you use my OMGUS Cop, can only cop those voting him at the end of the day :V
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Cop should be limited as Even Night Cop. ^_^v
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/in
No secret millers please; even in an open setup it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Imagine entering the thread one day to be on the receiving end of that unpleasant surprise.
Even Night Cop sounds dandy. That or perhaps 2-shot?
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If everyone knows an unaware miller is present, then it's hardly an automatic death knell. People will have the chance to argue themselves as the unaware miller and be judged on the merits of their in-thread play.
This is also all assuming the cop is moronic enough to claim the instant they get a guilty result in a setup where scum know there are zero protective roles.
EDIT: Typo
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Fair enough, but I'm just wondering if it isn't too much of a nerfing since it basically casts doubt on all investigations barring flips of the investigation falsifiers. But then again, :copinopensetup:.
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Conq: I think that's a good thing. Cop's an unfair role: No matter how well Mafia play, a lucky shot-in-the-dark can unveil them. How fair is that?
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I think even-night is a bit too much of a nerf imo.
Appartently,
cop
cop
voyeur
vs.
goon
scum tracker
scum rolecop
is about balanced in a 13-p closed set-up with some advantage to town.
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Optionally you could make the Scum Goon a Framer and throw off the Cop.
Oh, and /in
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I found the answer to my quandary in a bowl of delicious pho!
The cop will be a Rogue Detective who may only investigate on odd nights due to red tape and paperwork. S/he may choose to SCREW THE RULES and investigate on an Even night, but doing so eliminates their ability to investigate for the remainder of the game.
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Conq: I think that's a good thing. Cop's an unfair role: No matter how well Mafia play, a lucky shot-in-the-dark can unveil them. How fair is that?
Don't get me wrong; I dislike cop roles because they're basically impossible to use incorrectly - any chump with a role pm can take a shot in the dark and come up with a useful result with little to no negative consequence. But then we're getting into the discussion of why we're using power roles in the first place. Is it just "for fun" or to "spice things up", or is it to give one faction an advantage they need to make up for inherent advantages the other faction has (which is why some people espouse 2-11 Mountainous as "balanced", why the White Flag setup (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=White_Flag_(Open_Setup)) is seen as "balanced", etc)?
That said, this situation is a little different because :open setup: means there's the issue of confirmable townies and the lot. I suppose my opposition to a "secret miller" is more a visceral reaction as a player than anything else. I don't mind effectively gutting the cop if that's what we're trying to do.
Cut by Edible coming up with a creative solution. Pho is indeed delicious.
Also Dan, 2 (sane) cops in 13p with no scum rb/framer/gf is not balanced; I think you're quoting your source wrong.
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Side note: I should have mentioned this earlier, but please do not /in unless you can post a good, contentful post at least once a day.
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If anyone'd like to, I can read along with the game and jot down all the things you're doing right (and those you could do better). This offer is limited availability since I can't do this for everyone (probably), and is intended for those who think they can use such a thing to improve their play. You won't receive any comments until after the game ends, though.
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I'll take up that offer, better to learn good habits than to learn bad habits that must be unlearned later.
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Bard: I'd like to take you up on that offer, the what am I doing wrong part in particular. Thanks a lot, if you're willing to.
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Bard: I'd like to take you up on that offer, the what am I doing wrong part in particular. Thanks a lot, if you're willing to.
I'm going to do this thing called "positive solution-focused thinking", which means I'll tell you what you did right, and then what you can do better instead of what you did wrong. Telling someone to "not do that" limits their actions whereas enforcing positive strengthens their choice towards specific actions. We want the latter, not the former.
I'll take up that offer, better to learn good habits than to learn bad habits that must be unlearned later.
Noted. :V I'll probably end it at you two then due to limited time and all.
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ITT Bard (S) seeking willing subjects (M).
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not big on posting restrictions but yeah okay whatever /in
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I am the thgink that says in.
Tangentially related to copnerf: I'd consider throwing an unaware miller into this setup.
Shadoweh: Yay I am townie obvtown! o/ Maybe I'm the innocent child!
Bardiche: SHADOWEH I INVESTIGATED YOU AND YOU ARE GUILTY DIE NOW
Shadoweh: NOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME
/in if there's still room?
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Looks like hw and Shadoweh just grabbed the last two spots, yeah.
Edit: whoops there's one left
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I'm going to do this thing called "positive solution-focused thinking", which means I'll tell you what you did right, and then what you can do better instead of what you did wrong. Telling someone to "not do that" limits their actions whereas enforcing positive strengthens their choice towards specific actions. We want the latter, not the former.
I don't care about the choice of words, the main point is I hope to get a few things of the "uh, I never noticed / thought of that" variety out of this.
Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to do this. =)
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ITT Bard (S) seeking willing subjects (M).
Oh shut up, you. :V It's not like I enjoy being a jerk, or anything.
Shadoweh: Yay I am townie obvtown! \o/ Maybe I'm the innocent child!
Bardiche: SHADOWEH I INVESTIGATED YOU AND YOU ARE GUILTY DIE NOW
Shadoweh: NOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME
I'm not in the game! That'll never happen!
I don't care about the choice of words, the main point is I hope to get a few things of the "uh, I never noticed / thought of that" variety out of this.
Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to do this. =)
Well, it's to see how it goes, too. :V So no problem, it shouldn't be a huge problem... certainly not as time-consuming as Mafia.
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Koromo enters the fray again!
Also, if Bard's offer accepts one more...
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Koromo enters the fray again!
Also, if Bard's offer accepts one more...
You did well:
- Didn't claim Scum last game.
I make no promises I'll have something for you as well, PX. :3
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> S
> Tsun
Still missing: Twin tails, short stature.
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Koromo enters the fray again!
Also, if Bard's offer accepts one more...
Is this an /in?
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I'm not sure if there's a spot left or not at this point?
If there is I'm /in.
If there's not and hydras are allowed+anyone is interested, I'd be up for that, even if means I'm stuck in a QT and not allowed to post, because AWW YEAH MAFIERS.
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I'd Hydra with Serela. The prospect of The Idiot Boat Brigade as one makes us unstoppable!
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Nub question, what's hydra?
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3 headed hydra right?
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Nub question, what's hydra?
When multiple players are in the same slot. Usually only 1 of them is allowed to post, but they share a QT.
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3 headed hydra right?
I thought Rawr didn't want to come on the idiot boat? :3
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That was a /in :(
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if anybody should hydra w/ serela it should be me
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As much as I understand the purpose of this game is to get town back on track, I can /out for this game if need be to avoid the hydra. I'm not absolutely jonesin' for another Mafia game right now and I'd really rather not play with a hydra anyway.
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Not allowing hydras, sorry kids. PX has the last spot.
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Kilga should stay and show these kids how things are supposed to be done.
Cerberus then if not hydrae?
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Clearly everyone should be a hydra with Serela.
We all share one quicktopic, and cannot discuss the game in any way, shape, or form.
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Holy shit those were some fast signups.
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Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm.
...can I co-mod then? Votecount slavery, hooray? :D
Oh god it's been so long since I -wasn't- in the ongoing mafia game.
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Side note: I should have mentioned this earlier, but please do not /in unless you can post a good, contentful post at least once a day.
Dan is going to fail this requirement once the weekends roll around.
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Maybe if I write a few posts now and save them for D2, it'll count.
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Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm.
...can I co-mod then? Votecount slavery, hooray? :D
Oh god it's been so long since I -wasn't- in the ongoing mafia game.
Just stay out in case of replacement. Serela comin' in to save the day!
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So many people who want to play.
/out, put me down as a replacement.
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Can I hydwa with Swadomeh? Pwetty Pwease? :*
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Can I hydwa with Swadomeh? Pwetty Pwease? :*
No.
<_<
If Conq has /out-ed, I think the spot goes to Serela - any other takers for an official replacement request?
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That Ran avatar is definitely not adorable enough. I mean holy shit look at it it wants to eat my babies.
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No.
<_<
(http://puu.sh/Nb1S)
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in b4
Dormio/Neko Ran/Chen hydra.
I'm also one of the people that are against hydras though.
The only exception is the Shadormio hydra which has been in the works for well over a year now.
I was kidding. Mostly.
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in b4 Dormio/Neko Ran/Chen hydra.
I'm also one of the people that are against hydras though.
The only exception is the Shadormio hydra which has been in the works for well over a year now.
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/out for affinity.
Yes, I shall live vicariously through his role Pm.
Also his name starts with an "A", so yeah.
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/in
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Das is signups complete. I will finalize role PMs/send role PMs/create thread sometime between now and early tomorrow afternoon (EST).
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May I request to get a copy of Affinity's role Pm for this game.
I wanna know which side to cheer on.
But obviously it will of course be 100% town. totally.
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Then what's the need to know?
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in the chance case it's secretly not
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May I request to get a copy of Affinity's role Pm for this game.
Request denied :3
Sorry Dan.
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It's ok, he's obviously town, no should dare lynch him. :D
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I suggest we make a new Mafia thread now while it is still under the post limit? Also gives more room to spam after the current game.
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I suggest we make a new Mafia thread now while it is still under the post limit? Also gives more room to spam after the current game.
Good call. Pesco, do the honors?
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So much effort ;_;