Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F  (Read 264809 times)

draganuv15

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #300 on: April 04, 2012, 05:13:22 PM »
The paint.net program has a nice transparency tool to get a chunk of stuff out first (Provided you mess with the tool's percent bar to not destroy the touhou herself).

Ok, I'll check that out, thanks!

EDIT: Any specific tool? or is it a plugin?
SEQUEL: Figured it out. Thanks for help!
UNRELATED: Beat Youmu extremley undernourished! (I think my highest level was 12) and onto Alice! Might run into Rumia though. any tips?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 10:54:34 AM by The Hungry Yukiko »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #301 on: April 05, 2012, 11:28:00 AM »
Rumia is pretty easy. Decent MND will be more than enough

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #302 on: April 05, 2012, 11:31:31 AM »
Rumia is pretty easy. Decent MND will be more than enough
As long as she doesn't decide to debuff spam you.

draganuv15

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #303 on: April 05, 2012, 12:12:26 PM »
THE HUNT BEGINS (let's hope i ain't the hunted)

EDIT: I got Wriggle! But Rumia got me with her constant spamming of Demarcation and DSOTM
EDIT: JEEBUS THAT WAS CLOSE (yeh I got Rumia)
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 05:56:31 PM by The Hungry Yukiko »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #304 on: April 05, 2012, 07:42:54 PM »
Farming BP to be able to recruit Kaguya to have a better chance at defeating Yukari is so much fun.
100 battles to go until I have enough...

EDIT: Kaguya get, Yukari down because I decided on a whim to leave Suika in the 4th spot after Yukari buffed herself.  She uses Double Colorful Light and I lost Komachi, Meiling and Suwako, but Suika survived to be able to switch people in.  Unfortunately Yukari buffed herself after 1 additional move, so I had to Miracle Fruit (Sanae was a sacrifice in the first spot when Yukari buffed) Kaguya (3rd spot, last ditch effort), who due to the speed boost was able to go first and deal 45k for the finishing blow.

draganuv15

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #305 on: April 06, 2012, 08:47:45 PM »
Just finished Alice. (Lost 8 people but I got her!)
Floor 5 next!

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #306 on: April 06, 2012, 10:41:16 PM »
well, ive been busy with school and LOL, and also trying to beat IN hard (which im almost done!), that i forgot about this game. so, i decided to play to cool off from numerous frustrated attempts at IN hard, and got addicted. Here is where the question lies.

1: how can you tell how many battle points accumulated you have? I want to fight Kaguya's FOE before Rinnnousuke so that i have more exp

2: around what level should i challenge Rinnousuke? im almost done exploring floor 18, so I'm just thinking ahead a bit.

well good thing, at least the bosses after the eintei trio weren't that hard, at most 5 tries. Yukari wasn't as bad as I thought she would be. Flan has low health, so i somehow managed.....

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #307 on: April 06, 2012, 10:58:33 PM »
You can't really see how much BP you've accumulated. The only thing you have is that the character portrait on your savefile changes to match the person with the most BP.

Also, I recommend 100+. Rinnosuke's pretty tough, being completely immune to debuffs, ailments and what with his ability to just kind of screw you if you get unlucky.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #308 on: April 06, 2012, 11:09:31 PM »
1: how can you tell how many battle points accumulated you have? I want to fight Kaguya's FOE before Rinnnousuke so that i have more exp
In game, you can't.

With Cheat Engine though...
1. Scan for value greater than 0
2. Enter battle with Reisen, Eirin, Mokou and Sanae
3. Scan for values that increased by 1
4. Win the fight and return to the map screen
5. Scan for values that increased by 1
6. Repeat 2-5 until you only have 4 values left.

Those are your BP totals for the 4 characters required for Kaguya's Foe.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #309 on: April 07, 2012, 12:43:15 AM »
ok, just got kaguya and right now im grinding for the fight against rinnousuke.........
which floors are good for grinding? my levels are around 75-85 ish

Zil

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #310 on: April 07, 2012, 01:13:26 AM »
I'm pretty sure you should be able to beat Rinnosuke as soon as you reach him. Just put up defensive buffs. That's what I did at least.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #311 on: April 07, 2012, 01:44:15 AM »
Cootiesuke is only tough at the very first phase, get past that and you should be golden as long as you know to ubernuke his last phase. But yeah he poses little trouble imo at levels as low as 90... However many people seem to think hes really hard, so who knows. Just keep def buffs up cuz it makes his composite attack go from lol i died before i moved to lol 0'd. His Tai slash during phase one stays relatively dangerous though. If you wipe and he used that alot, prob just bad luck, try again.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #312 on: April 08, 2012, 05:40:22 PM »
I'm pretty sure you should be able to beat Rinnosuke as soon as you reach him. Just put up defensive buffs. That's what I did at least.
Uhhh...this is fine, except for:
Cootiesuke is only tough at the very first phase
this, but...
His Tai slash during phase one stays relatively dangerous though. If you wipe and he used that alot, prob just bad luck, try again.
this isn't what kills me.

I can't survive Start of Heavenly Demise no matter what I do, with the exception of having one character survive, then I'm forced to not spend turns depleting his health.  Though I could techincally win by getting really lucky, I'd rather not.  So, how do you survive it?

Zil

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #313 on: April 08, 2012, 05:54:00 PM »
Over 50% defensive buff should reduce it to no threat, if not complete zero. Just keep Reimu and Yukari on duty. It's composite so anyone with a good def or mnd stat should be fine. If it's possible to debuff his offense then do that too.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #314 on: April 08, 2012, 06:17:06 PM »
+50% DEF and MND on Meiling...oneshot because I didn't have a turn to heal after Iai Slash.  Ran had similarly high buffs and also died from near-max HP.

and when he opens with it I lose by default.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #315 on: April 08, 2012, 09:54:31 PM »
If even Meiling's getting oneshot at 50% DEF/MND buff then I reckon you either need moar levels and SKP or need to do equipment or what have you.

That really should not be happening if you're even remotely prepared.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #316 on: April 08, 2012, 11:49:58 PM »
Reimu was level 81 when I got there.  I'm not trying again until at least 95. (Currently: 87)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #317 on: April 09, 2012, 02:07:44 AM »
Dear goodness, reimu 82?! You must flee from alot of battles, because I was 92 in my last playthru and I didn't waste any time grinding.
But yeah, start of heavenly demise is a game-ender if he casts it on the first turn (if you're going for low level wins), that's just a no-luck thing.. But once you get some def buffs up, its damage gets reduced by a LOT while tai slash's does not.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #318 on: April 09, 2012, 02:13:15 AM »
Dear goodness, reimu 82?!
Yeah...I beat Yukari without too much difficulty at a high 70.
I wasn't fleeing from most fights, and I happened to find my way to Rinnosuke pretty quickly on the 18th floor.  Even still, 10 levels lower than where I should be?

I've grinded my way up to 87 so far, it's tedious though.

draganuv15

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #319 on: April 09, 2012, 11:40:11 AM »
Yeah...I beat Yukari without too much difficulty at a high 70.
I wasn't fleeing from most fights, and I happened to find my way to Rinnosuke pretty quickly on the 18th floor.  Even still, 10 levels lower than where I should be?

I've grinded my way up to 87 so far, it's tedious though.

If you didn't know this, you can press M to make the encounter bar go to 200% instantly if wandering around a floor is too tedious and you've found all the nice things.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #320 on: April 09, 2012, 05:35:06 PM »
If you didn't know this, you can press M to make the encounter bar go to 200% instantly if wandering around a floor is too tedious and you've found all the nice things.
Re-Really!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
like ihavenoname, i am also grinding (reimu 98, but i want reimu 100 before i challenge rinnosuke for easier boss)
almost there, but it was tedious. oh and i just realized to get to post disk contents i need all the items in first 10 pages.........do some bosses drop certain items cuz if they do i am screwed.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #321 on: April 09, 2012, 05:38:11 PM »
do some bosses drop certain items cuz if they do i am screwed.
Yes, but there's always a non-bss drop means of getting the item.
and after the final boss there's Boss Rush mode anyway, and the bosses can give their drops then too.

draganuv15

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #322 on: April 09, 2012, 11:40:30 PM »
Re-Really!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
like ihavenoname, i am also grinding (reimu 98, but i want reimu 100 before i challenge rinnosuke for easier boss)
almost there, but it was tedious. oh and i just realized to get to post disk contents i need all the items in first 10 pages.........do some bosses drop certain items cuz if they do i am screwed.

Yeah, it's really useful if you need to fight a boss if your underleveled and your patience has run dry. (I used this tactic to kidnap recruit Rumia and Alice.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #323 on: April 10, 2012, 11:53:43 AM »
I have found a risk-free method of grinding on the 18th floor.
I've manipulated speed so that Ran goes first, and Sanae, Youmu and Flandre all go in that order (speeds of 201, 200 and 199 to outspeed all the enemies).
Banquet of the Twelve General Gods
Miracle Fruit on Flandre
God's Slash of Karma Wind
Laevetain
This kills everything, and I can do it twice per trip to the floor.  I go through an average of 2 battles per minutes, meaning about an hour of grinding should put me well above the level I need to be at.

and I'm also getting a ton of nice random drops (Blue Saber, Floppy Rabbit Ear Headband...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ9jFkVaSwI
video example of what I'm doing.

and Reimu has now reached level 97, up from 81 a few days ago.

Going up to 100 before trying Rinnosuke again.  Which of his elemental forms is most dangerous?  I've managed to beat all of them except SPI because he never pulls it out.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #324 on: April 11, 2012, 08:53:37 PM »
I uhh.. don't really remember any of them being very dangerous. I had water be annoying once cuz he used sealing slash and managed to silence my entire party once. But even after that he never managed to kill anybody cuz all his elemental forms have pretty feeble offense.

I seriously want to know how you got to him at reimu level 82.. are you not fully exploring every floor for treasure?.

Zil

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #325 on: April 11, 2012, 09:00:57 PM »
The only time he killed someone for me was in his nature form, where he did something that killed Patchy (probably the word for world is forest). They're all pretty much the same though. Maybe wind form can paralyze you, but you should be immune anyway.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #326 on: April 11, 2012, 09:16:59 PM »
I seriously want to know how you got to him at reimu level 82.. are you not fully exploring every floor for treasure?.
I used a map to blitz through floor 17 after beating Yukari at around level 75 in 1 prepared try.
Then I used a map for the second half of floor 18 to find the quickest possible route through the treasures and relay point.
I also escaped from most Sorceress battles after they made me game over repeatedly. 

The only time he killed someone for me was in his nature form
Funny, I beat him just now and his nature form was the only time he scored a KO, and it was on Youmu because he poisoned 3 party members the turn before.

Video of the fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB3UyVMSs4Y

I hated Nature Rinnosuke just because of Word of Forest or  whatever.

It did so much damage and I cried ;.;
I hated the Mystic form because it's uber attack always KOed someone Meiling until this fight.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #327 on: April 12, 2012, 12:00:44 AM »
I hated Nature Rinnosuke just because of Word of Forest or  whatever.

It did so much damage and I cried ;.;

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #328 on: April 12, 2012, 08:31:17 AM »
Did a bit more 30F grinding and got to Reimu 501 (and that's still not enough for you-know-who). I'm settled with a lead of Yukari, Keine, Suwa, and Nitori. I picked Keine over Iku because she can buff both of my nukers simultaneously which works out to more total damage, it seems. Things should go a little faster now that I'm not
Spoiler:
as
distracted by ToGF :V

I don't remember Rinno too clearly, but I'm pretty sure I didn't like his wind form because I didn't have proper para-resist gear. However, his MYS SPI (hurr) form is pretty easy :3c
« Last Edit: April 13, 2012, 07:13:00 PM by Rukoto »

draganuv15

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #329 on: April 13, 2012, 12:38:06 PM »
OK! I suck at finding characters in this game...
So I'm gonna do what Parax did in his second playthrough (minus posting it on youtube and make funny and witty dialouge to go with it. maybe) and I will let YOU decide what 12 character I should play through the game with!

Because I'm bored :P