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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #270 on: March 26, 2012, 03:47:58 AM »
What level are you?  Pretty sure something like 53-55 was a good level to go in at or something.
42-48, Chen at 52, Suwako at 40.
Both Tenshi and Sanae's Foe were fought with average active party level of ~44-46.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #271 on: March 26, 2012, 06:41:20 PM »
Just use reimu's level as your level gauge. As for sanae's foe, i said that under he impression that you were sill doing floor 9ish, not already pretty much done 12 =p... Cuz you were talking about not even doing suwako and nitori yet.

But yeah, once youre AT entei, sanae's foe is underlevel.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #272 on: March 27, 2012, 12:04:35 AM »
Just use reimu's level as your level gauge. As for sanae's foe, i said that under he impression that you were sill doing floor 9ish, not already pretty much done 12 =p...
At the time of the post Sanae's Foe was the last thing on any pre-10 floor, then I spent 6 hours going through 10-12.

Sanae's Foe was a nice break from the switch puzzle.

Also I beat Nitori in a couple tries, same for Suwako before then.  I played a lot the last couple days  :V


EDIT: Well I'm underleveled for Eientei.  Going to get Reimu up to at least 52 from 48 before trying again.

EDIT 2: Eientei down, 13F explored.  I hate the encounters on policy now.  At least the drops are nice.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #273 on: March 28, 2012, 03:13:17 PM »
Yeah, trash gets noticeably nastier after 12f. 13f itself isnt so bad iirc excluding those annoying swordfish things which can move first and 1-2shot everyone... And spawn in groups of 2-3.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #274 on: March 28, 2012, 09:49:19 PM »
Is there a Cheat Table for getting all of the items on ver 3.01? I'm Trying the Axel one and nothing is changing...

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #275 on: March 29, 2012, 02:44:49 PM »
It's been too long ago and I don't have the time these days to keep the cheat tables updated. Do the tutorial exercises in CE and you can compile your own cheat table with a bit of effort. Find the offset for one item in the game as a reference and just keep adding 4 bits to it until you have all the items.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #276 on: March 29, 2012, 03:47:17 PM »
I feel strange because I played this game without ever cheating. It's like all the cool kids are doing it and I don't know what they're talking about.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #277 on: March 29, 2012, 03:52:23 PM »
I didnt cheat for my first 2 playthrus, but i do now just to save time rather han cheat.
1: kill boss, cheat their item if they didnt drop it, rather than reload and kill em 500 times
2: "cheat" the bp requirements for certain party members so i can do their events witbout wasting time, leveling excessively.  In this case "cheating" actually adds difficulty since thats lost exp (and i dont grind except at 20f and 27f).

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #278 on: March 29, 2012, 04:06:24 PM »
Whoa, people actually cheat? I thought not cheating was the norm.

Zil

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #279 on: March 29, 2012, 04:11:49 PM »
@Ghaleon: Yeah, I guess those do make sense. Counteracts some of the game's stupider aspects. I did the bp collecting all on the first floor just to avoid overleveling, which was tedious, to say the least.

@Keine: I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. :V

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #280 on: March 29, 2012, 04:30:13 PM »
Cheat Engine was made for educational purposes. The applications of which simply happen to be cheating at the game. Even if the means are there, nobody has to use them if they don't want to.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #281 on: March 29, 2012, 07:29:09 PM »
@Keine: I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. :V

Was serious about it.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #282 on: March 29, 2012, 07:45:28 PM »
I dont think too many people cheat on a first playthru aside from MAYBE speeding up the stupid level grind at 30f. I didnt cheat that twice but i think i will next time. I dont really think of it as cheating when it doesnt make anything easier, and when i did it before =p.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #283 on: March 29, 2012, 11:32:40 PM »
Find the offset for one item in the game as a reference and just keep adding 4 bits to it until you have all the items.
offset is 4, so the last value goes 0>4>8>C repeating.
Doesn't work for the plus disc items.

I did all my BP collecting (I only needed to go out of my way for Rumia's) while getting drop-only items on the 1st and 5th floors.

I have a Minoriko that full-heals Komachi and deals 10k to Mokou.  I think I buffed her magic too much.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #284 on: April 01, 2012, 07:31:19 PM »
Throwing my own hat in the ring with regards to portrait packs.

UPDATED LINK #2 (Now with 99% less 404 errors): http://www.mediafire.com/?ssx7tma7o7m7bnb

A portrait pack for those who want the pretty Sengoku Gensokyo art in Labyrinth of Touhou.

The pack's a bit rough around the edges IMO (I despise Marisa's and Aya's _Stand images but I'm a complete noob with image editors and wouldn't know how to go about fixing them to make them look less...screwy).
Marisa in general is kind of annoying, her Stand images in Sengoku are wide as fuck and don't translate well in the resizing and she also has the only face picture to not have a transparent background, MARISA Y U NO CONSISTENT.

Also, a fair few characters don't have pictures by virtue of not being in the game, fill in the blanks with other packs or something.

Also, Sanae, Minoriko, Kanako, Nitori and Suwako lack X_Stand images because I couldn't find them and I'm not even sure if they exist.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 03:08:24 PM by GamingAwesome1 »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #285 on: April 02, 2012, 12:31:52 AM »
As long as the picture isn't insanely wide, you can use a wider-then-what-it-says pic for _Stand's and it can work out pretty well. Possibly with a horizontal picture flip depending on what the image is like.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #286 on: April 02, 2012, 09:05:59 AM »
As long as the picture isn't insanely wide, you can use a wider-then-what-it-says pic for _Stand's and it can work out pretty well. Possibly with a horizontal picture flip depending on what the image is like.

I've taken the effort of fixing Marisa's and Aya's images and you were right, even if it is a bit wider than normal it more or less looks just fine. There's a "Marisa is fat" joke in there somewhere from all of this but I'm too lazy to figure it out.

I'm happy with the pack at this point since I haven't just got two characters squished-as-fuck image starting at me going ಠ_ಠ

Link in the last post I made has been updated.  :)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #287 on: April 03, 2012, 04:55:55 AM »
So I just beat Eientei. I accidentally ended up KOing Reisen first after repeated Royal Flares while Kaguya got healed at least 4 times. I thought I was doing enough damage to Eirin with other attacks but I must have been mistaken. Reisen focused and I immediately finished her off with Nitori's cannon. What surprised me even more was that Eirin went down about a turn later, without ever focusing. After debuffing Kaguya's MAG with Alice trying in vain to survive the inevitable Hourai Barrage, I was also surprised to see Kaguya attack with Fire Rat's Robe twice instead of Hourai Barrage. Those 2 attacks gave me enough time to Silent Selene one last time for the knockout.

In short, I just beat Eientei while avoiding all of their uber attacks without planning for them at all, since Reisen went down sooner than expected. My question: How lucky was I to have avoided getting hit by Hourai Barrage and the like? Also, how did I manage to KO Eirin without seeing her focus?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #288 on: April 03, 2012, 05:56:15 AM »
You messed up their AI somehow probably.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #289 on: April 03, 2012, 06:28:33 AM »
You messed up their AI somehow probably.
I figure Hourai Elixir has a higher priority than Focus for Eirin, and after Eirin's defeat Kaguya skips the focus phase completely, going onto an AI Roulette.  As a result it was a ridiculously lucky ending, but it was a good fight.

Have fun with 13F+ encounters, they just don't die.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #290 on: April 03, 2012, 07:43:39 AM »
Nah, in my first playthru, before I knew reisen was helpless against par, I intentionally rush-nuked her to death first because her debuffs really pissed me off, and never got blasted by a super nuke. As for kaggy and Eirin, Id idn't kill them at the same time either.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #291 on: April 03, 2012, 10:29:48 AM »
Just beat the Great Stamp, time for some 16F exploration.

It's funny how going in completely unprepared got me destroyed before I could even do a fifth of its HP but then after a little planning (max attack Suika spamming Throwing Atlas while Meiling and Komachi tank the everything) I won very easily.  Wriggle also tanked a Great Tremor, surprisingly.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #292 on: April 03, 2012, 12:06:39 PM »
Nah, in my first playthru, before I knew reisen was helpless against par, I intentionally rush-nuked her to death first because her debuffs really pissed me off, and never got blasted by a super nuke. As for kaggy and Eirin, Id idn't kill them at the same time either.

Funny thing about PAR, I didn't use it at all. My only paralyzer was Reimu, and every time she had a move, I felt it was more pressing to heal rather than evil sealing circle.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #293 on: April 04, 2012, 12:43:06 PM »
OK! Decided to make my own Charagraphs... One problem.
I have no idea how to do it, which program to use, the dimensions or anything ><
Can I get some help?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #294 on: April 04, 2012, 01:08:30 PM »
Use whatever program you like as long as it saves into png.

Filenames
Sサイズ画像は ○○_SFace.png 50x50
Lサイズ画像は ○○_LFace.png 104x112
立ち絵の場合は ○○_Stand.png 300x360

霊夢 → Reimu
魔理沙 → Marisa
レミリア → Remilia
咲夜 → Sakuya
パチュリー → Patchouli
橙 → Chen
美鈴 → Meirin
チルノ → Cirno
穣子 → Minoriko
妖夢 → Youmu
アリス → Alice
ルーミア → Rumia
リグル → Wriggle
勇儀 → Yuugi
文 → Aya
衣玖 → Iku
小町 → Komachi
諏訪子 → Suwako
早苗 → Sanae
にとり → Nitori
藍 → Ran
鈴仙 → Udonge
永琳 → Eirin
天子 → Tenko
妹紅 → Mokou
フランドール → Flandre
お燐 → RIN
輝夜 → Kaguya
萃香 → Suika
幽々子 → Yuyuko
紫 → Yukari
霖之助 → Kourin
蓮子 → Renko
メリー → Maribel
空 → Utsuho
神奈子 → Kanako
幽香 → Yuuka
ミスティア → Mystia
慧音 → Keine
映姫 → Eiki

e.g.
Reimu_Stand.png
Minoriko_SFace.png

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #295 on: April 04, 2012, 01:18:44 PM »
Use whatever program you like as long as it saves into png.

Filenames
Sサイズ画像は ○○_SFace.png 50x50
Lサイズ画像は ○○_LFace.png 104x112
立ち絵の場合は ○○_Stand.png 300x360

霊夢 → Reimu
魔理沙 → Marisa
レミリア → Remilia
咲夜 → Sakuya
パチュリー → Patchouli
橙 → Chen
美鈴 → Meirin
チルノ → Cirno
穣子 → Minoriko
妖夢 → Youmu
アリス → Alice
ルーミア → Rumia
リグル → Wriggle
勇儀 → Yuugi
文 → Aya
衣玖 → Iku
小町 → Komachi
諏訪子 → Suwako
早苗 → Sanae
にとり → Nitori
藍 → Ran
鈴仙 → Udonge
永琳 → Eirin
天子 → Tenko
妹紅 → Mokou
フランドール → Flandre
お燐 → RIN
輝夜 → Kaguya
萃香 → Suika
幽々子 → Yuyuko
紫 → Yukari
霖之助 → Kourin
蓮子 → Renko
メリー → Maribel
空 → Utsuho
神奈子 → Kanako
幽香 → Yuuka
ミスティア → Mystia
慧音 → Keine
映姫 → Eiki

e.g.
Reimu_Stand.png
Minoriko_SFace.png

Ok... any methods for cleanly cutting a background away from an image?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #296 on: April 04, 2012, 01:48:08 PM »
You have to ask someone that can do art.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #297 on: April 04, 2012, 02:56:04 PM »
I hardly am an artist but i find the magnetic lasso to be good for that for nubtarda like me. Dont have photoshop? Welp people gotta know what you DO have.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #298 on: April 04, 2012, 04:07:43 PM »
GIMP or paint  :V

EDIT: I tried and... ended up with a really grainy image... THERE HAS TO BE EASIER WAY.
Or I just give up -_(o_O)_-
« Last Edit: April 04, 2012, 05:04:05 PM by The Hungry Yukiko »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 8F
« Reply #299 on: April 04, 2012, 05:11:54 PM »
The paint.net program has a nice transparency tool to get a chunk of stuff out first (Provided you mess with the tool's percent bar to not destroy the touhou herself).