I am tempted to discount Dormio's gut reaction as being 100% town, but that would involve me undermining my town read on him. I will, instead admit that I didn't observe Dormio's actions too critically, as I was focused on how scummy Shadoweh's reaction was. I will simply add that fact onto my reasoning for why I believe both Dormio and Schezo are town.
This still implys that Dormio is 100% town to you because Shadoweh is 100% scum. I don't think your pulling reads out of your ass, but you are forcing them to be flawless here. On a more technical note, if Dormio's gut reaction is something inconsequencial enough to not be explained, why are so content to add it as circumstancial evidence when it has the potential to "undermine" your town read?
I admit it's a stretch to say that Shadoweh believed she was going to be lynched. She did still panic at the wagon and she produced a complete deflection from herself onto random people, one of whom being a person who hasn't posted anything with enough substance to take a serious look at. On top of that, the clear on Schezo feels as if it was rewarding him for both thinking she's scum and not going after her with his weird yet reasonable defense while at the same time attempting to mimic her town playstyle of being psychic very observant and insightful. Her read of Schezo's meta is true, however his town meta didn't kick in until post 75, about 26 posts after her clear. Anything before that can be read as putting in token effort.
For the Schezo clear I will tentatively agree with you here in that IF Shadoweh is Scum, your behavioral documentation on the wild Shadoweh is justified. However, I think a town!Shadoweh is just as capable of pronouncing town reads even for less than enviable reasons. The read happens to be a very easy one to make, so I read this as null. Just because events played out that way does not make it a clearly scummy action of Shadoweh's.
I disagree Shadoweh seemed Paniced, perhaps just irritated, as proven by her statement later about being annoyed at being a default early band wagon and further exsasperated by many people believing her to be scummy (which was really exaggerated). The deflection that Shadoweh claims was a serious question to you still does look like one of her scummier D1 actions.
Everybody says that PX is really, really, bad, and I'll have to take their word for it because I cannot find a single manifestation of any of his posts in the thread despite people implying they exist. There's Conqueror's post, which is a very nice post, Lots and lots of posts from JOB which is par for him, and NeoSerela's post which has Rise-chan in them an-
oh, wait, those are PX's posts. Where the hell has NeoSerela been, then? coddammit.
A large part of PX's post is basically going after JOB for being JOB. I don't believe in going after people for using bad play alone, so I disagree with the assessment against JOB. On the other hand, I don't believe in going after people for using bad play alone, so I also disagree with going after PX. Listing everyone with reads on them, including some nulls, is another sign of bad play, so I'm feeling pretty lenient on him anyw-I'm a Senpai? :]
This is too reportary/cheeky for my liking.
Basically while it seems you have a lot of confidence with your reads, you are not inspiring any within me and I find most of your analysis speculatory or insubstanial at best.
Let me ask, are you convinced Shadoweh is 100% scum?
Continuing onwards presently...
Oh, cut by Schezo. To be honest the issue sorta subsided.
Your vote on Dormio was punishing of something that I thought was quite townie, and
your post responding to JOB seems to imply you actually find Shadoweh Scummier but don't want to vote her for L-1 considerations and would rather apply your vote elsewhere as to be useful.
Your further rebuke WAS agressive and hostile even though just a few posts before, Dormio had calmly stated that he wanted you to expand upon your reasoning for the vote besides "cutting it out" before he cast a vote. Note that I do not think the blank unvote was scummy at all and of course Dormio would not have thought this either. Yet you acted as if it was definitively bad and that Dormio should know better. Considering you let go of shadoweh in the same post while asserting that Dormio "should fix that" seems like renewed justification for why you are voting Dormio. I see a stupified Dormio implusively voting you as a town tell.
Your continued aggression tells me you aren't considering his point of view seriously. Furthermore, Dormio had a point about the degree of insistance you were expressing when telling Dormio to vote Px. It's not natural to be ok with forcing Dormio to vote Px (for all you know could be a townie) when you have not said anything about him yourself.
Your further statements about Dormio:
Durrmio: You highly dislike the statement I made about you outright stating you don't like PX yet don't bother to vote him or anything beyond that so later you can what? Use it as anchorage for a case? Voting for him is the only thing you can do at this point in the game. Unless you know, you want to cheerlead.
Can I put it this way? Dormio's execution of this blank unvote feels to me like LLD's miller claim in Jojo's. It threw me for a loop and how he proceeded to roll with it almost felt like trapping. I don't like it.
The problem with this gets to where you, Dormio, expressed distaste of PX and proceeded to not do a thing with it. I pointed that out and you just smack me with a vote.
make no sense to me and were totally unconvincing. Seriously I thought your mind was warped. I am still putting you in neutral because your saving grace is that you could just be on a townie crusade. You seem to be heated against everyone and most everything. This is also why I could understand why Job disliked you, and why I felt it was a natural sentiment.
I'm going to allow Serela to fill in the holes for her reads. Most are based purely on some kind of emotional response. That said, I don't think it's a scummy post.
I can't judge Px's post properly without a re-read of Job... which is going to be painful.
@Dormio: The thing I liked in Px's #89 was when he called YOU a townie, not me (which I thought was null). I'm surprised you forgot about that. Also your vote is on Px, so I find "PX vs. JOB is a thing that I have no real idea on what to think of" kinda odd.
o god 5 cuts.
