Author Topic: GOD DAMNIT CHAORE Mafia (A.k.a. Mafia RPG!) - GAME OVER, SCUM WIN. (Read 79165 times)

Pesco · « **Reply #210 on:** February 16, 2011, 02:25:37 AM »

Weak posting with zero scumhunting. So that was why you were so forgettable.

##Vote PX

Kitten4u · « **Reply #211 on:** February 16, 2011, 03:11:06 AM »

##vote iliekmudkips

Can we lynch the Scum In Front Of Me now please? I still can't see how this guy could possibly be town.

Beyond that, I like HW's comments on PX, so I reread him. I thought his second post was really weird D1 (it's even weirder now that I notice he never answered Hourai's question over one of the more awkward comments). The rest of his D1 play has been unimpressive.I think HW and Pesco covered everything else.

I also forgot that Rev was playing, which is never a good sign.

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #212 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:00:19 AM »

How am I scum again? Do remember, This is my first time playing mafia in a year. For all you know I'm a PR. Look at how the only people who died are normal people, aside from the one cop. So thats three normal town dead, and one town PR dead. Do you REALLY want to take that risk?
And do remember, I've always personally had trouble with day one. Before any of us should be voting, We should be thinking 100% into our actions. If you still think your vote is correct, so be it.

PX · « **Reply #213 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:02:48 AM »

Pesco's reasons for voting me can be placed onto reV as well.

Other than that, after reading and reading, I've come up with something

I can't come up with a case AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
:getdown::getdown::getdown::getdown:

Also, I'm clearing kips for reasons I'm keeping to myself

*Prepares the suicidal gun*

Well, I'd park my vote somewhere and try to get a case going, but since it's stuck to my face it'd look very weak.

Pesco · « **Reply #214 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:37:44 AM »

Quote from: iliekmudkips on February 16, 2011, 04:00:19 AM

How am I scum again? Do remember, This is my first time playing mafia in a year. For all you know I'm a PR. Look at how the only people who died are normal people, aside from the one cop. So thats three normal town dead, and one town PR dead. Do you REALLY want to take that risk?
And do remember, I've always personally had trouble with day one. Before any of us should be voting, We should be thinking 100% into our actions. If you still think your vote is correct, so be it.

So fucking what?

I'll happily lynch mudkips today if that's how the majority want to go.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #215 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:40:42 AM »

Quote from: Kips

How am I scum again?

I explained here (are you reading the game?). If that is not clear enough for you I can explain even more.

Quote from: Kips

Do remember, This is my first time playing mafia in a year.

So what? This is my first time playing Mafia in six months, I have these strange issues with my brain that affect my ability to read/understand language and write/speak, gives me a constant headache (IE, I have a headache at all times as long as I am awake), makes me zone out occasionally (typically at least twice a day) and has been giving me severe memory problems. I also think I have the flu and a few other female problems that would be way TMI to go into.

I do not CARE about your excuses for not producing.

Quote from: Kips

For all you know I'm a PR. Look at how the only people who died are normal people, aside from the one cop. So thats three normal town dead, and one town PR dead. Do you REALLY want to take that risk?

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: I will never know 100% that you are scum. That is not how Mafia WORKS. All I can do is look at your actions and try to determine if they are more likely to come from town or scum, and as I have stated I see no townie intent in any of your actions. Therefore I think you are scum and I want you lynched.

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I really do wish you people (PX, Rev) would explain why you are clearing Kips. It's hugely frustrating for me to see such obvious scum walk because people aren't willing to explain why he is town. :|

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #216 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:19:21 AM »

Have you ever thought that I'm doing the one thing mafia wouldn't do? Guess what that is:

Being as scummy as I am.

What mafia. In the whole damned world. Would be acting as scummy as I am? If anything its the people HELPING town/believing they are that are scummy. No mafia would outright be as scummy as me. None. Not even a mentally retarded kid. None.

So now tell me kitten. What makes me scum again?

PX · « **Reply #217 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:21:50 AM »

A scum move at L-1 with over a day left in Day 1 would obviously hammer himself to prevent town from getting information, of course :V
Otherwise, I'm speculating he has a certain role that would not help town by revealing it. If you want him dead, then you'll have to show that he's the better lynch against everyone else.

Pesco: His initial vote for Conquerer really had nothing backing it up. However, once other people put on opinions on Conq, then Pesco created a reason for his vote on him. Other than that, he really didn't talk about anyone other than Conq, and a little about kips

reV: Everything against me also goes against him. So why is he allowed to be hidden?

##Unvote
##Vote: PX

T_T Whoever immobilized me, fuck you.

reVelske · « **Reply #218 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:24:02 AM »

Hidden? What hidden? Game resumed whilst I was asleep.

##VOTE: Kips

Roleclaim, NOW, had enough of your god damn softclaims, was certain you'd die last night with all the fucking PR hints, but seeing that didn't happen, I'm not putting up with another day of "I COULD BE A PR, YOU KNOW!".

Pesco · « **Reply #219 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:47:57 AM »

Despite the number of deaths overnight, I'm taking it as a blessing in disguise because it reduces the amount of wagon analysis we have to do.

Zak, PX and mudkips are the uncleared votes on Conq from my end. I'll need to dig around for Zak's vote post but so far it's pretty clear that PX and mudkips had no business going on the wagon they held no conviction for.

Rev: more anal pls.

reVelske · « **Reply #220 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:00:51 AM »

Still got my eyes on you and Bard, but I'll get to you two when I'm done with Kips.

Pesco · « **Reply #221 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:05:38 AM »

Why so lame? We've got time now.

Zak's vote post. Doesn't actually give a clear reason for picking Conq. A reV vote would have made more sense.

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #222 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:20:57 PM »

Rev, just goes to show how much you arent in the game.
I think I've claimed before, but if it'll help, I'm a normal townie. In fact, I was kinda reaction testing when I said I could be a PR. You should read back a couple of pages, where I also claimed norm townsfolk.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #223 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:37:43 PM »

@Kips: Are you really using "Too Scummy To Be Scum" as an argument/defense? :|

@PX: Except Rev unvoted between my post and Kips' next post. So, I don't think he really got the chance? Also, no questions, observations or ANYTHING to add?

@Rev: I agree with Pesco, you need to say more stuff. You're totally allowed to question/pursue two people at once. :V Also, what happened to that D1 clear of Kips?

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #224 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:43:16 PM »

Quote from: Kitte[Z]4u on February 16, 2011, 04:37:43 PM

@Kips: Are you really using "Too Scummy To Be Scum" as an argument/defense? :|

Actually, yes, I am. Is there a problem with that?

Pesco · « **Reply #225 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:43:59 PM »

Yes it means you're scum because you just claimed it.

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #226 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:52:11 PM »

Clearly, Which is why I said I'm using the "Too scummy to be scum" arguement, which clearly means i'm scum. Clearly.

In case you couldnt tell, I was being sarcastic in the later half.

Pesco · « **Reply #227 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:54:06 PM »

No I can't tell. The only thing I can tell is that you're a retard.

I'm just channeling the frustrations of the spectators btw.

reVelske · « **Reply #228 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:08:23 PM »

@kips: Oh sorry dear, but with the amount of complete garbage you post, it's hard to read past the first line or take anything you say seriously.

But really? That's it? That's all you have to say about your role? Vanilla townsfolk? Let me know if there's something you wish to add to that.

In the mean time.

##vote: iliekmudkips

Nothing to add ATM (seeing I haven't had the chance for a re-read) aside from how the the choice of nightkill seems odd, both targets I can more or less understand from a vig point of view, but not from that of a scum. I don't see how a huhwhat or hourai kill would benefit the scums in any way.

Pesco · « **Reply #229 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:20:54 PM »

Quote from: reVelske on February 16, 2011, 05:08:23 PM

Nothing to add ATM (seeing I haven't had the chance for a re-read) aside from how the the choice of nightkill seems odd, both targets I can more or less understand from a vig point of view, but not from that of a scum. I don't see how a huhwhat or hourai kill would benefit the scums in any way.

huhwhat's kill makes sense as the scum's pick and so does hourai's if it's a team of complete noobscum. Why does it make sense as a vig kill?

reVelske · « **Reply #230 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:29:32 PM »

Surely you, Zakeri and Bard would be the biggest threats due to player experience? Huhwhat is experienced too from what I can see, but he lacks the aggression and conviction to truly make him problematic for the scums, he reeks of neutrality a lot of the time. But yes well, what makes sense for a noobscum team is odd otherwise. And nothing wrong with vig killing off random suspicious individuals whose death wouldn't affect the overall scumhunting ability of the town all too much.

reVelske · « **Reply #231 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:45:50 PM »

Oh and aren't we potentially in MYLO already assuming there are 3 scums and vig fails to get a correct nightkill again?

Pesco · « **Reply #232 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:50:24 PM »

Nobody voted huwhat or Hourai all of Day 1, thus there is no chance of them being suspected. huhwhat's play was enough obvtown that he gets an all-round clear. Hourai might have caught some suspicion, but also an impossible lynch.

That reminds me. Zak hasn't died within the first phase cycle, obvscum :V.

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #233 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:00:09 PM »

Quote from: reVelske on February 16, 2011, 05:08:23 PM

@kips: Oh sorry dear, but with the amount of complete garbage you post, it's hard to read past the first line or take anything you say seriously.

But really? That's it? That's all you have to say about your role? Vanilla townsfolk? Let me know if there's something you wish to add to that.

In the mean time.

##vote: iliekmudkips

Nothing to add ATM (seeing I haven't had the chance for a re-read) aside from how the the choice of nightkill seems odd, both targets I can more or less understand from a vig point of view, but not from that of a scum. I don't see how a huhwhat or hourai kill would benefit the scums in any way.

Ask a simple question, get a simple answer.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #234 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:33:10 PM »

No one killed me last night because they all assumed something else would kill me.

Kitten has dropped down on my suspicions list.

Kips. "Because I am scum" is not adequate reason for people to not vote you. What would be an adequate reason would be if you told people who the scum was, besides "Not me." No one else is going to be able to provide a reason, because the cop died. I know you have trouble telling the difference between something scum would do and something town would do (as evidenced in all of your posts) but please try to at least come up with a short list of names of people who are both style alive, and shouldn't be. Make certain your name isn't on that list.
MODS: is there a statistical chance that the game could end within the next night phase? Will you announce when that chance comes up?

reVelske: I'd prefer it if you didn't wait until we clear the elephant from the room before telling us your case on Pesco and Bardiche. We lose nothing from discussing it now, but we waste time the other way around.

RE: Pesco 221, I voted Conqueror because I knew I wouldn't get anything useful from pressing reVelske on Day one. I've pretty much felt they were both as scummy as one another (positions on a bandwagon not withstanding.) Conqueror edged out later in the day as his posting increased, but content didn't.

PX: I couldn't tell from your post, but who would you be voting right now? Also, are you certain you're immobilized? Try just unvoting and see what happens. I know it's unlikely, but it would be a clever trick otherwise.

Schezo · « **Reply #235 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:46:17 PM »

Holy hell. What is wrong with kips? "I'm too scummy to be scum" really? With all that and the fact that he still hasn't said anything relevant than just defending himself with crazy logic like, "oh, I messed up bad, I better play out this mess that I made." Then, why does PX just randomly clear kips for no reason? This is just so frustrating because if we end up going to LYLO with him dear god.

PX: what I guess happened is you can't change that vote? So what? Why does that stop you from putting any relevant information? After holding your vote up in the air yesterday and then still not doing anything or putting comments out about other people is why I'm so wary of you. People called you out on that on day one yet you haven't done anything about it or addressing it since then. However kips is still the worst thing I'm seeing right now. Also you comment about your actions applying to reV don't really stand because he's started making comments and didn't leave his vote floating around to fall on someone with little conviction.

Vote: ilikemudkips

Seriously this guy needs to go. I'm not even sure if we are at a possible lose situation if two nightkills happen again but this seems like our best option.

Edit: whoa boy getting cut 7 times is fun on a phone. I do like that point Zak made about reV not saying anything about bard and pesco. I'd like to see that too.

Bardiche · « **Reply #236 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:52:12 PM »

##VOTE: Zakeri

Hey Zak, let's continue where we left off!

My case D1 was apparently not obvious, so let me make it obvious.

Kitten4u had an interpretation of someone's actions.
You interpreted them differently.
You stated Kitten4u had to adjust their interpretations because you had your own, which while not explicitly stated were presented as being somehow better. We all see people's actions differently, there's no reason you should tell someone they're wrong when they can have a wholly different (and in my eyes, reasonable) interpretation of actions.

It's not that I didn't want to vote Mudkips because I'd rather "vote someone who can scumhunt". I just think Kips isn't worth lynching because I assumed the mod would deal with the troll, but since they have not, our only option rests in dealing with it ourselves, it seems. I like to think problems of that scale will be resolved without handicapping town, but since we've been given this handicap, the only thing we can do is really, well, yeah, deal with it.

That you contorted my words to be "vote someone who can scumhunt in lieu of someone who can't" can very well be said it's due to "paranoid town". But it could also be deceitful scum, and my interpretation happens to view it that way.

Pray tell, why would no one kill you because "something else would kill you"?

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As much as I want a Zakeri lynch today, I recognise the need to dispose of Kips immediately to improve the overall quality of the game, and remove the distractions he provides to the town's overall scumhunt effort. There is not a shred of townie intent oozing from them, so I see no reason to object to the lynch. Especially since it doesn't look like we have an intrepid vigilant on our side willing to exact swift judgment on our distraction.

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PX, vote someone other than yourself. Prove you're really handicapped and it's not a "self-inflicted" handicap. Waltzing in today going "AAAAH I CAN'T COME UP WITH A CASE" and then flopping down doing absolutely nothing to even prove the vote is stuck is not going to be of help to you in the coming days, so get to it.

Bardiche · « **Reply #237 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:52:59 PM »

Regarding Kips, the above post implies but does not explicitly state that I will vote Kips later on to get rid of him. It is now made crystal clear.

Bardiche · « **Reply #238 on:** February 16, 2011, 08:03:11 PM »

Also, PX? Perhaps you also want to divulge why you clear Kips. I have no idea what could move you to do that to someone so suicidal.

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #239 on:** February 16, 2011, 08:39:04 PM »

Either way, Mafias most likely to kill me. If the town lynches me, then mafia has a chance to hit a better target then myself, right?