Author Topic: Vanilla Mafia II (Game over, town wins!)  (Read 106023 times)

J.O.B

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #120 on: October 07, 2011, 01:25:45 AM »
@Mod: Could we get another votecount please?

Omba

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #121 on: October 07, 2011, 01:42:47 AM »
JOB: Generally, don't make "I'm here" posts unless you're either a) confirming or b) your presence is specifically needed (to secure a lynch before the day ends, for example). Other reasons are possible, but I'm not seeing one here.

Sooo... Other stuff.

ActionDan: It's nice that you like me. It's not so nice that you follow that up with things that make me hate you. That wagon jump somehow seems familiar... oh, right, PX already did that. Considering you read my post where I voted PX for what he did and even agreed with it so much you went on to vote PX, too, it seems a little strange to just go ahead and follow in his footsteps. 3rd on the wagon is scum is bullshit, so please don't try to make it into an actual tell by confirming to it. :V
Don't think I have anything further to add to what Pesco said to you for now.

--cut by JOB


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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #122 on: October 07, 2011, 01:56:34 AM »
JOB, what alternatives were there other than to press Shadoweh? Since you chide me for it, surely you have some alternative. What else was suspicious? You say Shadoweh uses WIFOM in one breath and in the other condemn me for voting her, parts of which were that she was invoking WIFOM and throwing info in without doing anything with it but look. I don't get your case.

Omba's latest argument against Schezo feels like, "Go reach for something to pick at, anything!", which isn't necessarily Townie. Why do you feel Schezo should've done his best to stretch something he felt wasn't at all suspicious or serious?

Schezo

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #123 on: October 07, 2011, 02:02:23 AM »
Alright,

Show me.  What parts don't sound town motivated.  I want to see it, please quote it.

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If you're not seeing anything that looks serious to you and hasn't been adressed yet, you could try finding something. Ask people about reasons for non-serious stuff they did, for example. Non-serious posts can have serious reasons behind them. And if they don't, you'll still get an answer that either yields something interesting, or can result in an interesting reaction from someone else. The point is: You preferred continuing the fluff over serious debate. Serious debate is good for town, fluff is better for scum than for town. Town needs content to work with. I shouldn't even have to be this verbose about that because this is so basic stuff.
It's like a fucking marry-go-round.
You asked the most reasonable question to pursue out of pudding nonsense or Shadoweh's mod thing.  I was waiting for that Shadoweh one.  Gracious fuck.

I thought this 1 on 1 we had could be townxtown but there is seriously something wrong with how you're taking what I tell you.  It's almost like you've made up your mind on what you think of me before I answer.  I honestly think you're scum leading up an elaborate vote on me so you don't look like you're bandwagoning and there's two posts you just made that make me feel this way.

In the post you vote me in, 114 these lines don't flow with what you've been saying and just seem to me to be a buff to your case on me that you can just tack on.
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Not seeing any actual drive to find scum from you there.
More importantly, not seeing any in your posts after this, either.
It doesn't fit and makes me wary with how you've been talking to me.

Then you go ahead with the post you just made and do the same things you just called me out on.  Are you kidding me?  Fuck.  It's even about the same person.  You seriously are encouraging people to beat stuff over the head with a stick, knock it down and stomp on it aren't you?
##Unvote:
##Vote: Omba

J.O.B

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #124 on: October 07, 2011, 02:07:19 AM »
@Bardiche: Did you ever give an example of what Shadoweh could do? Not that I know of. Surely the mod comfirmation was enough information of what Shadoweh was saying? I see it as a null tell, and nothing else. And as I said the only reason I suspect Shadoweh at all is for creating a bit of noise and direct use of WIFOM in defending herself. I never comdemned you for voting her, I only said that I didn't like that way you kept on pushing she was scum through the fact that she knew the ratio of town to scum.

Cut by Schezor

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #125 on: October 07, 2011, 02:08:11 AM »
Dormio (0):
huh what (0):
BT (1): Dormio
Bardiche (2): Serela, JOB
Omba (1): Schezo
Pesco (1): Shadoweh
Schezo (4): Pesco, huh what, PX, Omba
Serela (0):
ActionDan (1): Hero999
PX (2): ActionDan, Bardiche
Hero999 (0):
JOB (0):
Shadoweh (0):

Not Voting: BT

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.  D1 ends in ~47 hours (watch countdown)

I will only post one votecount per page unless an absurd amount of time has passed (read 8+ hours).
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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #126 on: October 07, 2011, 02:20:05 AM »
Omba's latest argument against Schezo feels like, "Go reach for something to pick at, anything!", which isn't necessarily Townie. Why do you feel Schezo should've done his best to stretch something he felt wasn't at all suspicious or serious?
Asking a question can be done without implicitly attacking the one questioned. I didn't say he should have attacked anyone if he didn't see anything that appeared suspicious to him.
I did say he should have tried to find something worth asking about if he didn't have anything he wanted to add to the current issues.
Reasons are as I explained: If he asks, the answer might contain something suspicious. Or it might not, but someone might react to the answer in a suspicious way (for example, by trying to attack someone just to attack someone). Or some other form of serious content might result from it. Either way, asking can lead to content that Town can use to find scum, even if the thing initially questioned is completely innocuous.
Point is: What I'm looking for here is motivation to find scum. If he had that, he should have searched for ways to find scum when he thought the direct way (i.e. serious questions regarding or analysis of serious/suspicious content) wasn't available to him.
Reason why: Suppose everyone's RVS post was "Keine told me to vote X, so there" and nothing more. What do?
Considering this, if you have time to make a post, use it to do something useful. If you don't, don't make a post. Lolrvs is ok as long as we're actually in RVS. Adding non-serious stuff to serious stuff is fine, too. But just posting fluff when other people have started to get serious does nothing but make you have a post sitting there, telling people "hey guys, I posted something, I'm not lurking". Further elaboration needed?

--cut by Schezo and more stuff. One moment please.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #127 on: October 07, 2011, 02:48:55 AM »
Omba can you answer this question too please.
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It's like you're literally encouraging me to parrot you or lurk; don't make an offhand remark after 1 sided srs mode began.  Why is this?

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #128 on: October 07, 2011, 03:19:42 AM »
Alright,

Show me.  What parts don't sound town motivated.  I want to see it, please quote it.
You realize I've been pointing that out for a while now, right? Right? W/e, here you go

You fail to take into account ~*~MotK Town~*~
1 - The post that initally got you under fire. The not town motivated part is the "hello, I'm fluff" one.

2 - Most of this post, as I already stated here.

Actually let me try to clear up my thought process in this when I made that post.

I mulled over a few options and chose the lesser of the evils, (so I thought)
I could lurk
I could parrot your serious request
I could treat it as if nothing serious had happened at that point

And since there was no feedback at that point, no there wasn't anything serious going on to me, so I chose the third.

3 - This. What you say here is that you opted to post just so you could post (you deemed posting fluff the lesser evil compared to posting nothing).
I wouldn't damn you for 3 alone, which is why I didn't vote you at that point. Combined with the post linked in 2, however...

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I thought this 1 on 1 we had could be townxtown but there is seriously something wrong with how you're taking what I tell you.  It's almost like you've made up your mind on what you think of me before I answer.  I honestly think you're scum leading up an elaborate vote on me so you don't look like you're bandwagoning and there's two posts you just made that make me feel this way.
I'm not going into this with the assumption you're scum. I'm just bashing anything bashworthy you say until you either stop saying bashworthy things or die. It's that easy.

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In the post you vote me in, 114 these lines don't flow with what you've been saying and just seem to me to be a buff to your case on me that you can just tack on.It doesn't fit and makes me wary with how you've been talking to me.
Durrr... :V
What do you get when after picking something apart, there's nothing left? Right, a lack of something. These lines are not tacked on, they're the conclusion I've reached from the posts you made and the answers you gave me.

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Then you go ahead with the post you just made and do the same things you just called me out on.  Are you kidding me?  Fuck.  It's even about the same person.  You seriously are encouraging people to beat stuff over the head with a stick, knock it down and stomp on it aren't you?
... Seriously? You're not seeing the difference between a) your only content post consisting mostly of things that have already been stated by others, just reworded and without any attribution to the original source and b) making a comment with a bit of added stuff and referring to the original source; while that comment is only a little part of the whole content made by the person? You do notice you used your post in question to get your vote on someone, while I made a comment in passing between the other stuff I was writing about, right? Hell, if you thought ActionDan was the most suspicious person and you really had absolutely nothing further you could add to the case or ask him, great, happens, vote the one you find most suspicious, it's what you should do. It won't be as bad if you make up for it by searching for other interesting things you can add to anything. You didn't. Hence you get the big stick.

Omba can you answer this question too please.
I already did when I indirectly stated that the assumption you're making here is false. You're making it sound like those were the only two other options you had. Which is not the case.
I said do something useful. If nothing useful is immediately apparent, try to think of something. You can't go claiming miller in a vanilla game, but it's not like you have to take measures that drastic.
Actually, just read my answer to Bardiche directly above your post.
Side note: You had no issues with basically parroting Pesco to get the chance to vote anything. I don't know why you would have a bigger problem with doing that at the end of RVS. Well, there's some possible explanations for it but that's not the point here.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #129 on: October 07, 2011, 03:25:33 AM »
Oh, right. If you take that "bashing until" comment to be my whole modus operandi and make assumptions based on that, I will mukyu in a way so terrifying you will die.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #130 on: October 07, 2011, 04:14:47 AM »
So no, I don't have anyone in mind. I'm up for the usual "make people talk and see if something happens" routine.
You say you're up for it, but I'm not seeing you actually follow through on your words. Where exactly have you even attempted to make someone talk so far?
How do you want to go about making people talk?

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #131 on: October 07, 2011, 04:37:15 AM »
Dormio: What did you think of PX at that point, compared to the people you mentioned in your posts?

Omba

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #132 on: October 07, 2011, 04:55:44 AM »
Why share the information on two scum (for that matter, why even ask K4u about the number of scum?) and then do absolutely nothing with that knowledge bar suggesting we lynch the towniest people?
Name one thing Shadoweh could have done with the information besides sharing it, please.

ActionDan

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #133 on: October 07, 2011, 05:17:55 AM »
I just lost a 5.5 hour game... Piece Sacs, how do they work!

I skimmed/glanced most of Schezo/Omba and Omba looks as green as town kiro.

I see Schezo post a lot.  I think that means he's town.  no jokes.

The only thing that gets muddled in your back and forthes are your scum reads.  Although each of you have earned a special place in each others hearts, it would be nice to reiterate your spum picks.  No reasoning required.  I remember Schezo  thought I was me and Px were scummy yes?
Omba, where do me and Px fall for you? Since you dislike us both.

@Stuff that's been asked of me:

Huhwhat warned of scum "coasting" D1.  That is a better use of the word than using it to say a player is "coasting" within the first 24 hours of D1 based on 2 posts.   

As for Px, I agreed with Omba's earlier case.  I also think Px is playing differently than usual.  If I had to give words to my feelings, I'd say Px is trying too hard to invoke his random anti-town town meta by forcing "bandwaggons" down our throats instaead of actually caring much for trying to vote scum 

Don't lynch me.

Omba

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #134 on: October 07, 2011, 05:27:55 AM »
Huh whatty, it matters because it means scum are vastly outnumbered and for at least this day will get a marginal say on what we do. As odd as that is, today is the best day for us, as a town, to make our own townie lynching decision.
What is this reasoning. Just like every other D1, we start out with exactly no information about any of the players, no flips, no nothing. And to top it off, we have a lower scum:town ratio, which means a lynch based on a small amount of content has a higher chance of hitting a townie. We do have more town input compared to scum input, but I don't see how on D1 that outweighs the negatives to a degree that would make you sound so elated about this. Less scum is a good thing for town. But what the hell this reasoning.

Not exactly liking your Pesco vote. What specifically makes him seem scummy enough to you to vote him over everyone else? Please elaborate on your case.

Villain999: Can't believe I overlooked this. Anything new on anyone that is not ActionDan and/or hasn't already been stated?

--cut by ActionDan

Omba

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #135 on: October 07, 2011, 06:16:38 AM »
I see Schezo post a lot.  I think that means he's town.  no jokes.
Why? Most of his posts are dedicated to answering what I said to/about him. Reacting to that would be a good course of action regardless of his alignment. That wasn't something he could just sit out by avoiding the issue, especially considering he already had a wagon on him, not just my vote.

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The only thing that gets muddled in your back and forthes are your scum reads.  Although each of you have earned a special place in each others hearts, it would be nice to reiterate your spum picks.  No reasoning required.  I remember Schezo  thought I was me and Px were scummy yes?
Omba, where do me and Px fall for you? Since you dislike us both.
Would currently like to brutally murder the most: Schezo.
Would want to blow up all together: PX, ActionDan, Villain999; if necessary, starting from the leftmost one. Order could easily change, I don't have much content from any of these three to go off.
No idea what to do with: JOB, Serela, BT. Haven't stared at their posts enough yet.
That leads me to a question: What are your scum picks, apart from PX?

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Huhwhat warned of scum "coasting" D1.  That is a better use of the word than using it to say a player is "coasting" within the first 24 hours of D1 based on 2 posts.
So what do you think of Schezo's fluff post and his explanation for it? 

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As for Px, I agreed with Omba's earlier case.  I also think Px is playing differently than usual.  If I had to give words to my feelings, I'd say Px is trying too hard to invoke his random anti-town town meta by forcing "bandwaggons" down our throats instaead of actually caring much for trying to vote scum
That sounds logical. It's also completely useless on D1 and especially so with the small amount of posts he has made so far.

BT

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #136 on: October 07, 2011, 09:38:08 AM »
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POST SOMETHING
Call me a huge coward. But yeah, I'll do my best to fix this from this point onward.

Opinion on the Bardiche-Shadoweh incident: Unless someone convinces me otherwise, the mod proved the conversation about the ratio to be true, so I tend to believe that Shadoweh is town. Yes, there's a chance that this is all a set-up, but since you people want me to drop my reasons for "not going with my gut" and just plain go with my gut, that's what I'll be doing. About Bardiche, I do agree that the prolonged argument about the ratio was a bit non-town-like, but I don't think it was TOO long like some others noted. I really do think that Bardiche was doing it out of town-ish concerns and stopped a bit too late, so: town.

The only thing that really caught my eye up to now was this:
Making a note here:  Small associative tell between Pesco/Schezo; If one is scum I would clear the other.
Like others have noted before, this is an extremely bad idea for the town to follow 99% of the time, so unless ActionDan somehow forgot this fact and thought it was a good idea to post this, I would go for him as my scum pick.

That is, then there's Omba's and Schezo's incident. At first I thought (and still think) that Schezo's "non-serious" post was, just that, a non-serious but harmless post that wouldn't immediately put a huge "scum" tag on him. Through the convo Omba had with him, though, I kind of got convinced. Schezo's posts after that seemed to continue the tradition of not helping the town at all, something I now believe to be important.

But for the sake of not accidentally pushing for majority,
##Vote ActionDan

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #137 on: October 07, 2011, 10:10:22 AM »
It wasn't a serious issue to me until we got either Mod info back or Shadoweh responded.  Neither of these happened.  I could have just went, "yeah what she said" and made noise.  But I didn't and for not acknowledging that I am getting scrutiny for it.  Ah well.

I pointed out your coasting when I felt there was more than enough time after mod and Shadoweh response. If you could have confirmed or moved your vote at that time, it wouldn't be noise and you'd give us a reaction to gauge.

I mulled over a few options and chose the lesser of the evils, (so I thought)
I could lurk
I could parrot your serious request
I could treat it as if nothing serious had happened at that point

And since there was no feedback at that point, no there wasn't anything serious going on to me, so I chose the third.

How is this third option you chose different from the first option, given that your visible action was to not post anything?

Bardiche on the other hand, My opinions aren't the most original, but I think they still hold. Bardiche created a lot of noise by repeatedly going after Shadoweh and her modconfirm (for number of scum). In my opinion, that's a null tell. All we ever needed to clear this up was just a modconfirm that the ratio was indeed correct. But Bardiche had to drag it out longer than what was needed. He looks extremely town on the exterior, but I think he's hiding something on the inside.
##Vote Bardiche

Why are you voting on a null-tell. Why are you voting someone that you think looks town? If you think he's hiding something, explain it because you're just voting someone for being town now.

Then you go ahead with the post you just made and do the same things you just called me out on.  Are you kidding me?  Fuck.  It's even about the same person.  You seriously are encouraging people to beat stuff over the head with a stick, knock it down and stomp on it aren't you?
##Unvote:
##Vote: Omba


You'd have to do better than that if you want to OMGUS. Put Omba aside for a moment and tell me about Dan and PX.

Huhwhat warned of scum "coasting" D1.  That is a better use of the word than using it to say a player is "coasting" within the first 24 hours of D1 based on 2 posts.   

As for Px, I agreed with Omba's earlier case.  I also think Px is playing differently than usual.  If I had to give words to my feelings, I'd say Px is trying too hard to invoke his random anti-town town meta by forcing "bandwaggons" down our throats instaead of actually caring much for trying to vote scum

What the heck are you even saying here? Use sentences that contain ONE subject, ONE verb and ONE object please.

> PX playing differently from usual
> PX invoking his meta

Logic error...

But for the sake of not accidentally pushing for majority,
##Vote ActionDan

How would you feel about a Schezo lynch?

BT

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #138 on: October 07, 2011, 10:28:27 AM »
If I would be willing to "put my gut on something", it'd be on one of ActionDan or Schezo, so I have no problem changing my vote to the other. There's still plenty of time left though, no need to push for majority this early.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #139 on: October 07, 2011, 10:35:57 AM »
What is it about having a clear majority this early that puts you off?

Shadoweh's last posts on an ISO reread sound terrible. Like Wrathie-terrible.

J.O.B

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #140 on: October 07, 2011, 10:38:22 AM »
@Pesco: The reason I voted him wasn't because Bardiche is being town, it was because of him dragging out the Shadoweh modconfirm in scum numbers. Did you yourself think that a modconfirm was all that was needed to end the discussion on that matter? I know I did. I think he has some hidden motive that is probably anti-town. So he kept on attacking Shadoweh because she was an easy target.

Also I'm not really liking Omba's attitude towards Schezo. He keeps relentlessly attacking Schezo for not doing scumhunting, but I don't think Omba has any other real scum suspects
other than Schezo. Surely if you were scumhunting you would have more suspects, right? It's like scum is going for an easy target while not paying much attention to the rest of the game. Then with your latest 7(I think) posts, you appear to be all over the place, responding to several people and asking questions to others. I seriously have no real idea who you acually suspect other than Schezo.
Just saying this:
Would currently like to brutally murder the most: Schezo.
Would want to blow up all together: PX, ActionDan, Villain999; if necessary, starting from the leftmost one. Order could easily change, I don't have much content from any of these three to go off.
No idea what to do with: JOB, Serela, BT. Haven't stared at their posts enough yet.
Does not cut it. You've stated your possible scumpicks, but you haven't stated your reasons. I can't be sure if you really suspect them or not if you don't say why *hint* *hint*.
This is enough for me to warrant a vote.
##Unvote
##Vote Omba

@Schezo: Who are your top three scumpicks and why?

Cut two times.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #141 on: October 07, 2011, 10:40:36 AM »
I'd normally say "so that someone doesn't stealth the lynch" but I keep forgetting that doing this in a 2-scum game is suicidal (on their part, obviously). So yeah, I guess I don't have a clear problem, aside from the fact pushing for majority early instinctively makes me worry.

If it means so much to you, I can change my vote. It shouldn't be a big deal to begin with, though.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #142 on: October 07, 2011, 10:43:06 AM »
How is Omba worse than Bardiche now?

@BT: you don't need to change right now since I think a Dan lynch is viable today. So long as your stances are clear.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #143 on: October 07, 2011, 10:45:28 AM »
I think he just wants him to explain his behavior, rather than suspecting that he's scum.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #144 on: October 07, 2011, 10:47:36 AM »
It's always better to vote scum than prod maybes.

J.O.B

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #145 on: October 07, 2011, 10:51:27 AM »
Tunneling. Which is obviously scummier than what I had pinned Bardiche for.

@Omba:I just noticed that Action Dan said that you didn't have to put reasoning in with your scumpicks, so you're excused for not giving reasons there, but I would still like some reasons from you now.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #146 on: October 07, 2011, 10:52:55 AM »
I think he just wants him to explain his behavior, rather than suspecting that he's scum.
I'm pretty sure some magical person somewhere said that answering questions directed at other people wasn't a good thing to do.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #147 on: October 07, 2011, 11:03:12 AM »
@Schezo: If I go by meta, then I'm quite sure your scum due to you being reserved, and supposedly "kind".
I'm okay with your lynch, due to you defending only with no kind of scum hunting shown in it.

Why exactly was the 3rd choice out of the other 2 a better idea?
Dismissing the conversation when there was multiple input on the same topic made it serious. By dismissing the discussion is dismissing serious content.

@Actiondan: Your logic is completely misplaced. How exactly does changing a play style make that person scum?
Your attacking someone because they are acting different from their usual actions.
Is there really a difference considering huhwhat is just stating it, as Pesco is accusing it?
You also have not explained your reason of setting up Pesco/Schezo.

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #148 on: October 07, 2011, 11:20:17 AM »
I did that thing where I left things until the last second that they were due because lolDotS and forgot that mafia existed.
Anyway!

Dormio: What did you think of PX at that point, compared to the people you mentioned in your posts?
Neutral, still is.

I think I actually dislike ActionDan more.
BT, what do you think about Shadoweh right now?

##Unvote
##Vote ActionDan

ActionDan #133: No other comments about anything that Schezo has said? Really? Just going to go "posts a lot" and clear him for that reason alone?
Basically, Dan seems to be doing, uh, nothing. His only case is on PX for ED1 stuff. Do you have no thoughts about the rest of the game?

BT

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Re: Vanilla Mafia II (D1)
« Reply #149 on: October 07, 2011, 11:22:10 AM »
BT, what do you think about Shadoweh right now?
Town, unless I get convinced that the ratio thing was a set-up.