Irene: Here you go. This took so long because I was stupid enough to start with Mitsurugi, which lasted all of two minutes of reading her earlier posts before my brain went "OKAY, THAT'S IT. FUCK YOU AND FUCK THIS GAME. I HAVEN'T HAD TIME OFF IN FOREVER. I'M NOT GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS UNTIL I'VE DONE SOMETHING ELSE." And then I went and did not-Mafia things for a while. :V
Anyway!
WARNING: This is long, even by my standards.
MitsurugiIn rereading I found #271 amusing in the wake of Gasai's #269 talking about how she doesn't need "a wall of text explaining why lurkers suck." I can't believe I missed that at the time. :< I blame them being on opposite sides of a page turn.
Reading #271 from a Town BlackRose/Town Kanzaki/Scum Mitsurugi perspective is interesting in light of Mitsurugi appearing to pretty much drop everything else prior that she had been seriously focusing on (i.e. the Martinozzi vote). It's basically "Look at how much I can say about the obvious things regarding the people that are obviously suspicious!" With how the Martinozzi case disappeared, this post was the entirety of her vocalized suspicions of people. Far be it from me to criticize someone for finding BlackRose and Kanzaki suspicious, but with no effort to distinguish why Blackrose was the worse of the two despite having towers to drop about both of them individually, not having any other real suspicions on the table, and coming in that late in the day with talk about how the lurkers suck after the day had been spent hashing out why the lurkers suck between other people (including some people from the beginning of the day), thgis post really looks like a lazy flop onto easy targets with the "lazy flop" part hidden by all dem big werds. Truth be told, I'm going to be a little less sympathetic to "I was busy" if it's the explanation for why there were not any other meaningful vocalized reads at that time because I've been busy this entire goddamn game with a variety of outside circumstances and I still put in the time to discuss things aside from lurkers.
Ultimately I think #271 is scummy regardless of Kanzaki's alignment, since either this post or what I wrote in #425 applies to it.
The rest of the day is less of a psychological point against Mitsurugi if Kanzaki is town. I had noticed that Mitsurugi spend the rest of the day mostly talking to or about BlackRose, which I figured could have been a "subtle" attempt to keep BlackRose at the front of everyone's minds (she mentioned Kanzaki only when asked about the claims). Most of it was reasonably explainable, but #301 in particular bothered me even with the #314 explanation since it seemed so needless. I don't see a reason for Scum Mitsurugi to try to keep the focus on one of the two wagons given Town BlackRose/Town Kanzaki.
Assuming Scum Mitsurugi for #432 makes less sense with Town Kanzaki than with Scum Kanzaki, because I don't see why Scum Mitsurugi would switch over to pursuing Kenshin instead of continuing the path against the ball of contentless gas when she had just dropped a tower about her the previous day and was willing to say more today.
AlbarnA common theme in Albarn's anti-lurker stance seems to be that she completely ignores the possibility that lurkers can act scummy when they post. It's like there's some arbitrary magical threshold where if your word production rate drops below that point then you can't possibly be scum regardless of what you've actually said. As an example:
And regarding Esuna's vote on Kaori while I write this. That would be a waste of a lynch today and would tell us nothing since she has almost no interactions with others. To me, Kaori just reads as newbie/bad play.
From Day 1, in reference to this reasoning:
Irene is lurky so iunno about her yet. Conversely Kaori is lurky but she's really bad because her posts are creatable with a bare minimum of thought put into playing. Shana is [REDACTED] and so I don't even know yet.
I don't like how Kanzaki was dismissed so easily as a "waste of a lynch" because of her lack of interactions with others given Busy's reasoning was based less on post volume and more total lack of content. Someone like Irene would have been a waste of a lynch, but when someone's acting scummy their post volume should be that much of a factor. Lynching scum is never a waste of a lynch, no matter how little they've said.
Holding this stance would actually make sense in conjunction with Town Kanzaki, because it keeps Albarn's hands clean when Shana, BlackRose, (possibly) Irene, and Kanzaki all flip town. It lets her go "I told you so" and makes her look that much better. Holding a stance so broad about general gameplay relating to alignment that it pretty much outright ignores what a player's input actually is does not sit will with me in general and extra rankles me in particular in combination with the possibility of promoting oneself in this manner. Reeeeeeeeally don't like this.
Specifically calling Kanzaki a mislynch in the "low-hanging lurker mislynch fruit" line in #232 could possibly be a psychological slip but even assuming Town Kanzaki I don't think I'd put a lot of stock into it.
IreneI don't think the choice of BlackRose over Kanzaki in #187 is scum motivated regardless of Kanzaki's alignment given how early in the day it was. As much as worrying about a quicklynch that early is silly. The wording of the post is odd and almost incongruous with voting for a lurker, but I'm pretty sure I understand what Irene was trying to get at here anyway (I'd assume it was a pressure vote, given how much Irene wanted the lurkers to talk more) so it doesn't bother me.
Irene's #285 feels very genuine from a Town Kanzaki perspective, because I generically don't know why Scum Irene would keep trying to push the idea of getting a Farina lynch instead after forcing content from the lurkers. Especailly when considering that (a) Farina was pretty obviously never going to take as a lynch rush, and (b) scum likely knew this given Farina's death. I can only see this post as scum-motivated if Kanzaki is scum because it's a BlackRose vote without much justification of why BlackRose over Kanzaki.
The rest of the day played out in such a fashion that I don't think there's an appreciable difference between Town Kanzaki and Scum Kanzaki from the perspective of Scum Irene.
SummationKenshin I've already addressed, since my thoughts on her were asked specifically.
Regardless, operating under the assumption that Kanzaki is town, my vote priority order would most likely go Mitsurugi > Albarn > Irene > Kenshin, though there's a sufficiently large gap between Albarn and Irene that I would need to look over Gasai, Busy and Martinozzi again if this actually somehow happened. If anything, this reinforces the idea of Scum Kanzaki to me, because even with Town Kanzaki/Scum Albarn/Scum Mitsurugi, there's presumably still one more scum to go, and the idea of any of my remaining five options being scum and interacting with/talking about a town Kanzaki in this fashion (or just plain playing the way they have) feels ridiculous.
