Author Topic: [GG, Bard loses] Free! Mafia  (Read 64873 times)

Bardiche

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Re: [Night 1] Free! Mafia
« Reply #150 on: August 15, 2015, 03:39:03 PM »
TL;DR

First 48 hours: vote and discuss as normal
Last 24 hours: can't vote, discuss as normal, TC picks one person to lynch
Failure for TC to pick someone or failure for anyone to meet the lynch threshold results in No Lynch occuring

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Re: [Night 1] Free! Mafia
« Reply #151 on: August 15, 2015, 03:46:09 PM »
@Mod: Just to be sure, can votes cast in the first 48 hours be unvoted?
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: [Night 1] Free! Mafia
« Reply #152 on: August 15, 2015, 03:49:08 PM »
Ehhhhh. wow.

So this prolonged discussion gimmick is rather ingenious, Ill admit. In order to compensate for D1 lack of lynch, you made someone a mute player and involve players in democracy shenanigans. So that N1 wouldn't stagnate so bad even without a lynch because you now have someone eager to talk and share about their reads and offer fresh insights. Its basically a bettered version of last games shenanigans, except crazy role interaction is now contained to the bare minimum, I like this.

I suppose I will wait for CF7 to post and then wall tomorrow, I am home late and am terribly tired, night people.

Also, please don't place any votes
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Re: [Night 1] Free! Mafia
« Reply #153 on: August 15, 2015, 04:56:59 PM »
@Mod: Just to be sure, can votes cast in the first 48 hours be unvoted?

Absolutely!

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #154 on: August 15, 2015, 06:36:44 PM »
Okay, that's good.

I guess I'll wait until DNA clarifies why he doesn't want anyone voting (hopefully it's the same concern as mine about sticky votes) before casting mine, but since votes aren't sticky I'm not sure what else the reason might be.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #155 on: August 15, 2015, 06:54:45 PM »
Weekend can't post just like last game Rei.

I'm aware i'm out on a limb Re: Kilg but attacking someone's arguments isn't "Toxic" I'm theatrical and overblown sure but Toxic is a very damaging thing to accuse someone of when they are playing the game.
It's also not an Ad Hom so stop just throwing around Mafia terms incorrectly please.

I realized you weren't lying just thought the post was about the other part of the post so let's chalk that up to a misunderstanding?@Hilg
Still waiting on Celery to answer my question?
Re: Dan seems crazy but could  Kilg explain why it paints a target on dan's back?
I've see more Night Talk roles playing here in two games then my whole Mafia Career :V
Waiting for C70 post, I also don't like that post, heck I don't like it more then I Hilg since I'm just trying to dig into if Hilg is Tunneling Town or not and I'm surprised to see so many people fall into a false dichotomy that we couldn't be on the same team and questioning someone's attacks isn't defending either.

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #156 on: August 15, 2015, 09:54:20 PM »
About my earlier picks.
I think that there's one scum in Kilga/Rei/Shalako, and i think it's the latter. Shalako tries to hard to appear town and while i can appreciate the effort it seems really... hollow to me. Maybe it's his posting style or what not, but it looks like posting a lot and appearing town, while at the same time trying to obscure his motives. But maybe i am wrong here. But i'll probably need to reread the whole exchange between them to actually reach my more or less final conclusion.

Selery/Raitaki/Nagisa. Out of the 3 both Selery and Nagisa looks town to me and their posting looks town too and it has some analysis. Raitaki on other hand is too cautious and while he posted quite a bit of words i can't see much content in those words. Argument of not voting for Kilga, because of players having too much bias is BS tbh. And i felt like it was really pro-scum. Like let's not vote for a player who other players will follow, because that's bad. Because town will have easier time lynching scummy players.

That said i am willing to vote for Raitaki.
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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #157 on: August 15, 2015, 10:32:30 PM »
Mmmmmmmmmrrrrrrrr

##Fakevote: CF7

Confession time: I've been having second thoughts about Shalako since last night. Getting a chance to step back and look at what was going on while the game was relatively quiet made me realize how much of our argument could be explained by polar opposite playstyles (it seems Shalako takes both player meta and D1 play just as seriously as I don't take either of them), differences in opinion on various word choices, and generally incresing frustration on both sides (Shalako's anger reads as genuine, and my last couple of days at work have been massively stressful and haven't helped me at all in keeping my temper in check). There are still some word choice things that I raise an eyebrow at, even when taking the aforementioned differences in word choice opinion into consideration, but I'm not as gung-ho about this anymore.

(The "Kill Me" Target thing is in reference to the fact that nighttalk was enabled by a role, which carried the obvious implication that, assuming the person with the role was town, scum could simply shut night talk off if they killed the person with the role. If it was really an N1-only thing, though, then I guess it doesn't matter that much.)

CF7's post fails to impress.

* The Shalako suspicion is very "maybe, maybe not, I don't really know" in its explanation.
* No mention is made of Dan despite Dan previously being a total enigma. One could argue that Dan wasn't discussed because he wasn't part of either three-player grouping, but the obvious question then is why he wasn't in the Serela/Patorikku/Raitaki one, since no explanation was ever provided for that either.
* I don't like talking about townreads, but I generally don't buy Raitaki as a scum candidate right now. I thought the logic behind voting DNA over me was rather silly but not ill-intended, which is why I never commented on it even though my captain candidacy was directly affected by it. Beyond that, I've been generally pleased with his posts and have been able to follow his thoughts fairly well. (I admit it helps that he came to the same conclusion about that CF7's Post #99 that I did.)
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Bardiche

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Re: [Night 1] Free! Mafia
« Reply #158 on: August 16, 2015, 02:39:38 AM »
2 days and 13 hours until the end of Day 2!

Day 2 - "Team Captain, represent!"
Town has 48 hours in which they may freely submit votes, one per person. After that time, votes are locked in place and may no longer be moved! There will be 24 hours for the Team Captain to select any one member of the collective with equal to or more than 3 votes as the Day's lynch. Town may continue to discuss during those 24 hours.

No votes were cast! (I almost counted Kilga's vote but I assume the Fake part means he doesn't actually want to cast a vote. :()

There are 8 votes in play. 3 votes nominate someone for elimination.

DNAbc

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #159 on: August 16, 2015, 03:04:17 AM »
Yeah, I just misread and assumed votes can't be moved.

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #160 on: August 16, 2015, 03:10:16 AM »
##Vote: CF7
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #161 on: August 16, 2015, 06:23:34 AM »
##Vote: CF7

Yeah, that last post from CF7 wasn't really satisfying to me. For starters, both of his cases run on the idea that what both Shalako and Raitaki posted throughout the game lacks depth, and while I can understand that read on Raitaki to an extent, I really don't buy Shalako would keep a heated argument like that going and have it be "hollow." In all fairness, your posts seemed more hollow throughout D1 to me, and this post isn't helping that case. Especially since most of us are scumreading or at least suspicious of Shalako right now, it makes it the easy vote. Not only that, but you've still failed to mention why you don't even consider Dan as a possible scum candidate.

In any case, Dan, assuming you can talk now, since nightalk isn't gonna be a thing anymore, we need some more input beyond the few lines you've offered. Your post in response to Rei-chan's inquiries gives the implication you haven't really followed the game thus far, and I'm hoping that's not actually the case. Whatever else you can come up with will be able to help out town. Your opinion on CF7's posts thus far would be a good start.

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #162 on: August 16, 2015, 11:03:55 AM »
Well, that's how it is. Even if the reasoning in my posts failed to impress you all, i'll stick to it.
##Vote Raitaki.
Well, his PR on top of night talk enabler does not make him automatically a confirmed town, but i don't think it makes sense as scum.
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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #163 on: August 16, 2015, 11:04:49 AM »
Well, his PR on top of...
I obviously meant Dan here.
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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #164 on: August 16, 2015, 02:11:40 PM »
Well, it's always possible he's scum that just lied about the PR because they had a nighttalk enabling thing. But, I'm not pushing for a Dan lynch today. So long as he starts contributing with things we can help get reads off I hopefully won't have to worry too much about lynching him later either >>

I actually do think CF7's latest post is a decent improvement and does a better job explaining his reads, but even so he's still the worst of the bunch. However, Raitaki's nightpost doesn't really change my opinion of him that he's more likely to be scum than the rest of the cast, so especially with the Captain thing meaning we should be putting 2 people up to 3 votes today, I might actually vote there with CF7! (who'da thunk it) Apart from that Kilga still looks more or less good, and Dan is... TBA :T
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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #165 on: August 16, 2015, 02:12:22 PM »
well we can move votes so
##Vote Raitaki

If CF7 looks to not be hitting 3 votes by the vote lock, though, for whatever reason, I'm definitely switching over there.
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DNAbc

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #166 on: August 16, 2015, 03:03:27 PM »
Hello, Rei Ryugazaki here, thank you for your faith in me etcetc, work is piling up so I will regrettably have to drop most of the roleplay and get to the meat of stuff.

I don't like how CF7 doesn't attempt to shed the lurkish read list even though its been day 2, but I am kind of divisive over if that's reflective of scum or even makes him a good lynch target because far as I recall CF7 had a long history of playing apathetically as town. I think his response is rather townish given he actually had the intent to answer others. But since the last stretch when I had time to actually play continuously was like a year ago, that meta couldve been outdated. Regardless, I still think there could be other, better lynch targets. Possibly either Dan or Serela.

Dan has always been a kinda difficult read for most of us because he takes comfort in his usual super lurky, minimal words playstyle so we pretty have to case him by his meta and intent. And running on that, I find it indicative that hes not even trying to post during N2 to be rather scummy. Usual town dan should be moderately invested in the game, but will at least try to address the biggest wagons/debates happening. I point attention to how last game town!dan at least tried to immediately address the DNA/Shalako spat and gave a list of general reads, and was making rather sensible, if brief, points during his presence. I don't like how this game Dan just go 'lol not interested in elections' and wasn't even trying to make use of the nighttalk to its fullest. So I think I would rather lynch Dan over CF7.

Not sure why Shalako is getting a free pass now? Dropping the fervent attack is nice but I find it kind of abrupt how quickly he decided to drop everything on the Kilga case and is kinda scummy. I kind of wished that he would actually summarize his attack on why he attacked Kilg in a sane manner, instead of just dropping it and barely mentioning it again entirely. I also kind of don't recall him having done anything other than attacking Kilg, so once he's dropped that I find him having a very overall weak presence,  and honestly, the spat couldve went either way. So I find him to be rather scummy.  At least I wouldn't mind seeing him lynched.

Raitaki being the next wagon is terrible. imo his train of thought is clear and his priorities straight. While they can be biased, its at worse null and Id hardly base them as scum oreinted, not especially at such an early portion of the game. CF7 case on Raitaki doesn't even address his concerns but is PoE, which is way too early for this stage of the game.

Talking about Raitaki wagon, the next person on that is Serela, I actually think Serela wouldn't be a bad lynch, and is possibly the lynch I want most aside from Dan. His opinions are rather shaky and inconsistent, and his comments on the Kilg v Shalako was basically him at war with himself in the same post, (Shalakos actions is towny....but he did the same thing as scum last game! Kilg is probably town, but is probably too town to be town, maybe!), overall, I think I just find his intent seems to be trying to justify both of them as future potential lynch targets, and it just gives me a very strong scum gutread.

##Vote Serela
I suppose if given the choice, I currently will choose something like Serela>Dan>CF7, which are based off a combination of my priorities (scumhunting and punishing degenerate play). CF7 has bad logic, but bad logic is not conclusive enough evidence I will base a lynch off with at this stage of the game. Dan doesn't even have remotely enough material for content analysis, so its a policy lynch. Reason for Serela stated already.

I don't have problems with Nagisa and Kilga, I think their logic unfolded well and are both now about as town as Raitaki, whom I already have nothing to nitpick with

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #167 on: August 16, 2015, 05:30:36 PM »
Blargh sorry stuff been happening this week.

@Recent CF7: "Shalako's effort seems hollow" is a statement so vague it might as well be a gut read. And not sure how Shalako has been "obscuring his motives" when he had been gunning for Kilga for like 70% of the game up until now. Given CF7 said that I raised a valid point after I argued against voting Kilga for TC, his paraphrasing my same argument in a scummy light is pretty shady. He also still hadn't explained why Dan isn't in his second group of possible scum, and still kept Dan out of it for some reason, even after both Kilga and Nagisa called him out on it. Even taking into account Rei's "CF7 has bad logic but that doesn't necessarily mean scum", CF7's arguments are such a long stretch that I can't really see them as anything other than an attempt to stick to the bogus scum grouping he started in D1.

##Vote: CF7

Also, Dan's posts up until now:
+ Wordlessly voting Serela/DNA
+ Claiming responsibility for night talk
+ Townreading Serela based on basically the second thing she ever posted aside from confirming, and that alone
+ Waffle

Yeah this would be the second slot that I'd like to get to 3 votes.

@Rei: I'm pretty sure Serela does the "okaaaay at first glance this person's alignment seems to be X because of this buuuuuut <self-counterargument>" thing at least once every game, so basically your entire reason for voting her right now is null for me personally.
[08:23 pm]  Aristocrat -- Raitaki on a scale of 1 to 10 your current mafia game play is annoying as fuck
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- Raitaki, if both of us ended up as mafia
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- I would be so angry
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- that I will snap and give into my rage

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #168 on: August 17, 2015, 12:02:35 AM »
Quote
overall, I think I just find his intent seems to be trying to justify both of them as future potential lynch targets, and it just gives me a very strong scum gutread.
If you read my post I very clearly say I think Shalako is very town? >_> It's like you're cherrypicking my first 5 words about Shalako and ignoring the conclusion met in the rest.

Also yes as Raitaki said I do that thing basically every single game. It's important to account for all parts of play even if they imply conclusions they don't further your case! That's because you're trying to be accurate, not just get some schmuck lynched.

I still don't find Raitaki to be a townread but I -am- starting to feel like I might rather just have CF7 as the only option more than I'd want to add Raitaki to the list. (Obv. it could still end up someone else but that's true regardless of whether I'm voting said someone else or not)
##Unvote
« Last Edit: August 17, 2015, 12:11:31 AM by Bardiche »
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Bardiche

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #169 on: August 17, 2015, 12:12:01 AM »
Friendly mod note: Fixed that quote tag for you, Serela. You're welcome.

Bardiche

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[Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #170 on: August 17, 2015, 12:18:56 AM »
1 day and 15 hours until the end of Day 2!
That's 15 hours to be voting, folks!

Day 2 - "Team Captain, represent!"
Town has 48 hours in which they may freely submit votes, one per person. After that time, votes are locked in place and may no longer be moved! There will be 24 hours for the Team Captain to select any one member of the collective with equal to or more than 3 votes as the Day's lynch. Town may continue to discuss during those 24 hours.

CF7 (3): Kilgamayan, Nagisa Hazuki, Raitaki
Raitaki (1): CF7, Serela
Serela (1): Rei Ryugazaki

Not voting scum (3): Serela, ActionDan, Shalako
Up for elimination: CF7

There are 8 votes in play. 3 votes nominate someone for elimination.

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #171 on: August 17, 2015, 12:32:57 AM »
>:| Empty unvotes make me an angry Taoist. Do you really have no one else you think is scummy?
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #172 on: August 17, 2015, 12:51:47 AM »
Keep in mind that with the whole team captain thing, putting more votes on a person than the minimum needed to make them one of the lynch options for the TC is pretty unnecessary. I think Serela thinks CF7 is the best lynch by far, so she's not voting anyone else so that CF7 becomes the only person Rei can lynch.
[08:23 pm]  Aristocrat -- Raitaki on a scale of 1 to 10 your current mafia game play is annoying as fuck
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- Raitaki, if both of us ended up as mafia
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- I would be so angry
[08:25 pm]  Aristocrat -- that I will snap and give into my rage

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #173 on: August 17, 2015, 01:13:25 AM »
But it'd still be good to make sure no one can unvote CF7 and make him a non-option before deadline for whatever reason. Highly unlikely, but, "well I changed my mind and this other person is at 2 votes and I want them lynched" or something, whatever.

##Vote CF7
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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #174 on: August 17, 2015, 01:14:26 AM »
oh right shalako wanted me to answer a question! You have a lot of posts though. :C I probably missed your question in the first place because eventually I started skimming the Kilga smashing walls. What is it again?
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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #175 on: August 17, 2015, 01:25:46 AM »
Raitaki: I suppose you're right. I tend to have a hard time wrapping my head around non-conventional voting mechanics. Empty unvoting will never not bother me, though.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #176 on: August 17, 2015, 09:58:05 AM »
Oh. So i am a designated mis-lynch of the day. Niiiiice. And due to the mechanics of the day i can't even self-hammer out of spite. Doubly Niiiiice. /sarcasm

Here's some food for thought for you.

My wagon happened to be based on pretty much what you can call a "bad reasoning". 
While Nagisa admits that half the players suspect Shalako, noone placed a vote on him and that it could be an easy vote from me.
Serela's votes during this day is Raitaki, then unvote, then me.
Dan is still pretty much non-existent as he was during D1.
Sometimes rumors are just... rumors

Bardiche

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #177 on: August 17, 2015, 02:42:40 PM »
Just 53 minutes until you can no longer vote (nor unvote).

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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #178 on: August 17, 2015, 02:50:34 PM »
...hrm. Yeah, I can see that scum!Cf7 would probably want to try to push an actual realistic counterwagon like Shalako. It doesn't make him town, but, if he's scum there's surprisingly little resistance to the lynch, considering his counterwagon would be... let's be fair, me and him are like the only people with much interest in a Raitaki lynch? And 6v2 the scum proooobably don't want to just throw away their scumbuddy. Although now I'm getting into wifom territory.

Dan's continuing to be nonexistant so I'd be fine with flashwagoning him up to where he's a lynch OPTION (in -addition- to cf7, not instead of.). However I'm not going to unvote cf7 until Dan's actually at two votes; I'm not going to risk forcing ourselves into a Dan lynch or no-lynch whilst trying to drum up a second choice for the captain to consider.
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Re: [Day2] Free! Mafia
« Reply #179 on: August 17, 2015, 03:08:39 PM »
Pseudo-present. Can't write anything lengthy while at work, but I can at least move my vote around as needed if it would help secure an additional lynch option (assuming that additional option is someone I could get behind lynching). Would still rather CF7 be lynched but getting an extra 24 hours of meaningful arguing between two players trying to avoid a lynch is certainly valuable.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"