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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #960 on: July 04, 2015, 12:44:07 AM »
I had one day at the beginning of that last 2.5x skillup period where my second white Kali and my black Kali both got a ton of skillups (started at level one, ended at four and five respectively) and neither has budged an inch since. Damn goddesses, get your skillups so I can leave this dungeon forever and never look back. If I find myself in a position to max them both out at the same time with extra piis at some point I'll probably do it, I'm beyond bored of this. I could finish the black one right now, but then all of the devilits I drop while trying to finish the white one would be wasted, so I better not. And all my current Shynpys are earmarked for Ra.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #961 on: July 04, 2015, 12:54:37 AM »
I'm two skillups away from maxing my LKali. It has been a long, slow process, but it shall be worth it when Awoken Ra comes out.

Strangely though, I'm much more inclined to hypermax Kali before Ra though, simply because she benefits more from having ATK due to her double TPAs.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #962 on: July 04, 2015, 01:13:59 AM »
Yeah, she would be strictly better, but I made the call to go with Ra because other people can use him too. If I did Kali she'd end up buried in my team where only I can use her. And hopefully my damage is stupid enough that the sub-optimal use of attack eggs doesn't matter that much.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #963 on: July 04, 2015, 01:27:36 AM »
The other reason why I chose Kali is because she works great as a leader AND a sub while Ra is situational as a sub (read: Fatty). I'll probably egg him up or something after Kali but yeah >_o

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #964 on: July 04, 2015, 01:35:25 AM »
Time to mop up the rest of the challenge for the stone later.



Wonder what I can use this extra Zaerog for...maybe one of the ults?

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #965 on: July 04, 2015, 01:37:49 AM »
rdj wins the most tenacious and patient player award

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #966 on: July 04, 2015, 01:44:32 AM »
Last night I made a Hera Rush video with Awoken Bastet

Time to mop up the rest of the challenge for the stone later.


Wonder what I can use this extra Zaerog for...maybe one of the ults?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #967 on: July 04, 2015, 01:55:59 AM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #968 on: July 04, 2015, 02:31:22 AM »
The other reason why I chose Kali is because she works great as a leader AND a sub while Ra is situational as a sub (read: Fatty). I'll probably egg him up or something after Kali but yeah >_o

What it comes down to for me is that almost all of my current hypermax stuff is hidden, so nobody can see it. I want to show off as much as I want to actually get utility out of my +eggs. :derp: :derp: :derp:

But yeah, can't see ever really using Ra as a sub. On the other hand, can't see ever using Kali as a leader again once I have him, so maybe it doesn't matter (aside from the obviously inefficient use of attack eggs)?
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #969 on: July 04, 2015, 02:32:30 AM »
But yeah, can't see ever really using Ra as a sub. On the other hand, can't see ever using Kali as a leader again once I have him, so maybe it doesn't matter (aside from the obviously inefficient use of attack eggs)?

LKali belongs as a sub in many color-match leads, whereas A.Ra only sees himself as a sub in King Carnival farming teams where you need at least 4 A.Ra.

It's more logically sound to plus egg LKali first before A.Ra, but either should be OK.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #970 on: July 04, 2015, 02:55:01 AM »
Alright the strat works woo! :toot:


on the other hand angelits keep dropping of course

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #971 on: July 04, 2015, 03:02:05 AM »
LKali belongs as a sub in many color-match leads, whereas A.Ra only sees himself as a sub in King Carnival farming teams where you need at least 4 A.Ra.

It's more logically sound to plus egg LKali first before A.Ra, but either should be OK.

Right, I got that, but once you have Awoken Ra why use any other rainbow team? Kali could sub on any other rainbow, but I think I'm good on rainbow leads forever now. (Note: I mean that rhetorically, but like, barely.)
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #972 on: July 04, 2015, 04:18:47 AM »
Right, I got that, but once you have Awoken Ra why use any other rainbow team? Kali could sub on any other rainbow, but I think I'm good on rainbow leads forever now. (Note: I mean that rhetorically, but like, barely.)

I could use Kirin for dungeons where I need gravity more than a true damage nuke

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #973 on: July 04, 2015, 04:24:10 AM »
Is Ra's active a big consideration when choosing him? A vast majority of my interest is in his leader skill. If that's the case then fair enough, can't argue that.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #974 on: July 04, 2015, 04:43:52 AM »
Got a few evos done that I'd been putting off this week so I feel sort of accomplished.

>Chiyome:  Base form -> ult
>SQ -> first evo(I don't wanna hunt blue fruuuuuuits...but BG's the only form worth making in my case so hunt I must.)
>Berserker Z -> evo'd

Alllllmost got Kagutsuchi evo'd the first time as well but I didn't grab enough flame keepers on Tuesday, though I can rectify this through Vermillionyt's stage so it's prob not a huge deal.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #975 on: July 04, 2015, 04:59:47 AM »
Is Ra's active a big consideration when choosing him? A vast majority of my interest is in his leader skill. If that's the case then fair enough, can't argue that.

Like it was brought up before, gravities can push an enemy past a certain HP threshold -before- you attack, which is really significant for things like Sonia Gran and Kaguya, or nailing an enemy with a dark sub-attribute when they're still above 50%.

Also, LKali and DKali's 30 million HP. :V

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #976 on: July 04, 2015, 05:02:09 AM »
Is Ra's active a big consideration when choosing him? A vast majority of my interest is in his leader skill. If that's the case then fair enough, can't argue that.

I own both A.Ra and UUVO Kirin so yeah

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #977 on: July 04, 2015, 07:11:52 AM »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #978 on: July 04, 2015, 07:12:35 AM »
I can still see myself using LKali as a leader even after getting A.Ra if not only because she's easier to use for a higher multiplier. Do note that unless you're using an active, A.Ra's multiplier is 25x for 5 colors when Kali's is 25x for 4, and then 36x for a mere two combos more. Ra's multiplier is higher if you use an active, of course, but your damage will be far less consistent. She's also more compatible with subs like Sandalphon and Sun Quan (like for real, 72x for two turns with damage reduction or delay? That's pretty amazing).

In other words, A.Ra's stronger for sure, but Kali's probably the most reliable 4-color lead in the game right now in terms of activation and damage.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #979 on: July 04, 2015, 07:44:59 AM »
In other words, A.Ra's stronger for sure, but Kali's probably the most reliable 4-color lead in the game right now in terms of activation and damage.

I think no one should really consider using A.Ra unless they had multiple LKalis anyway, otherwise it's too inconsistent.

I stopped using LKali because her damage output was too low for me in places where I needed it (x36 with only 1 light combo or 1 light tpa is very meh) and I stopped using A.Ra because I don't have a DKali to complement my 2 LKali subs.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #980 on: July 04, 2015, 08:15:45 AM »
I think people forget that, while LKali has that amazing active, doubledonger, and x36, her active is still just a board conversion; there will destroy definitely be times when you get just one TPA of light orbs.

Not that Kirin won't have the same issue, but she's far more compatible with Apollo (who makes metric tons of light orbs), Valkyrie, and such. Dark > Light and Heal > Light is a far better gig than Wood > Light - LKali doesn't share any typings with Fuma that would enhance them both.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #981 on: July 04, 2015, 08:20:03 AM »
I think people forget that, while LKali has that amazing active, doubledonger, and x36, her active is still just a board conversion; there will destroy definitely be times when you get just one TPA of light orbs.

Not that Kirin won't have the same issue, but she's far more compatible with Apollo (who makes metric tons of light orbs), Valkyrie, and such. Dark > Light and Heal > Light is a far better gig than Wood > Light - LKali doesn't share any typings with Fuma that would enhance them both.

Kirin also has a bajillion Light Orb Enhance and her subs typically also have Light Orb Enhance and they add up rapidly, so in some cases Kirin actually outdamages LKali

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #982 on: July 04, 2015, 11:38:34 AM »

Zheng Fei is pretty easy when you can use most of your team.

Not that I have an idea what this team is supposed to do but you know.

"Yes, let's go through the dungeon without actually using Neptune's enhance."

Actually I think the only active skill I used was Susano because Karin hits like a truck for no reason.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #983 on: July 04, 2015, 12:49:47 PM »
Hmm, good call on using gravity to bust sturdy on new bosses. Although two Sakuyas is enough to crack Kaguya but not Sonia, right? While that does make a lot of sense, I could see the huge variability in different multiplier levels on a Ra team being similarly useful much of the time. You could try to aim for a x25 or even a x12 and hopefull just crack sturdy with attack damage. Not always the right solution, and slightly uncontrollable, but it is an option.

I can still see myself using LKali as a leader even after getting A.Ra if not only because she's easier to use for a higher multiplier. Do note that unless you're using an active, A.Ra's multiplier is 25x for 5 colors when Kali's is 25x for 4, and then 36x for a mere two combos more. Ra's multiplier is higher if you use an active, of course, but your damage will be far less consistent. She's also more compatible with subs like Sandalphon and Sun Quan (like for real, 72x for two turns with damage reduction or delay? That's pretty amazing).

In other words, A.Ra's stronger for sure, but Kali's probably the most reliable 4-color lead in the game right now in terms of activation and damage.

Fair points,, but you do have complete control over when Ra's leader skill is great or not. It's not like you'll often be in situations where you need the extra x2 but can't get it on demand.

Kali is more reliable of course, that's just math. My current Kali team has four Kali actives though, and I almost never find myself in situations where they're all off cooldown. My Ra team has the same number, and I imagine I'll have to use them slightly more to make sure I always have green as well, but I usually go out of my way to match green every turn with Kali just to see how much harder it is than four colors (often not much).

And of course I recognize that not everybody owns the optimal number and assortment of Kalis. I lucked into mine, and I wouldn't run Ra if I didn't have them.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #984 on: July 04, 2015, 02:46:24 PM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #985 on: July 04, 2015, 02:55:56 PM »
I...I don't even...  That's, uh...  what does one say to that?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #986 on: July 04, 2015, 03:18:58 PM »
I think people forget that, while LKali has that amazing active, doubledonger, and x36, her active is still just a board conversion; there will destroy definitely be times when you get just one TPA of light orbs.

Not that Kirin won't have the same issue, but she's far more compatible with Apollo (who makes metric tons of light orbs), Valkyrie, and such. Dark > Light and Heal > Light is a far better gig than Wood > Light - LKali doesn't share any typings with Fuma that would enhance them both.

Coming from you, I'm kind of shocked. There is am enhance that boosts them both - -  it's just by type, but by attribute. It's Purin!



Anyway, Zhang Fei down. Stupid easy stone when the conditional requirements were loosened.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #987 on: July 04, 2015, 03:54:08 PM »
Purin is all rows, tho. Chubby dog doesn't get Kirin's godboost, either. :c

I'll gladly take Purin's other awoken skills over Izanagi or Thor, though

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #988 on: July 04, 2015, 03:58:01 PM »
Yeah, man, I feel kind of bad about stomping Zhang Fei that bad. I'm conflicted about the change to restricted dungeons. I guess they're never that fun, so it's cool.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #989 on: July 04, 2015, 04:10:00 PM »
I can still see myself using LKali as a leader even after getting A.Ra if not only because she's easier to use for a higher multiplier. Do note that unless you're using an active, A.Ra's multiplier is 25x for 5 colors when Kali's is 25x for 4, and then 36x for a mere two combos more. Ra's multiplier is higher if you use an active, of course, but your damage will be far less consistent. She's also more compatible with subs like Sandalphon and Sun Quan (like for real, 72x for two turns with damage reduction or delay? That's pretty amazing).

In other words, A.Ra's stronger for sure, but Kali's probably the most reliable 4-color lead in the game right now in terms of activation and damage.
Unless you have AIsis, which then allows you to hav an active up every turn BV