Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod  (Read 217374 times)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #660 on: June 22, 2015, 03:34:20 PM »
Well, Rodin ultimate was HUGE and recent. And that's still a tiny pool for prongs. Maybe they're pushing prongs more lately, but there's still a solid backlog of red row stuff that means rows have a lot more options. And a few of the things you mentioned also have a row, which makes them plenty good on row teams. Maybe eventually red prongs will be the thing, but I don't think we're there yet.

Awoken Shiva's already destroying C10 and is as having some of the best reward to effort ratios, so red prongs are looking pretty good right now.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #661 on: June 22, 2015, 04:03:59 PM »
i got 2 mini isis and a mini red odin and mini chiyome

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #662 on: June 22, 2015, 04:23:46 PM »
Awoken Shiva's already destroying C10 and is as having some of the best reward to effort ratios, so red prongs are looking pretty good right now.

I'm not saying they're not good, they have some amazing tools. Just not a wide variety of them yet. I'm saying Lil' Rodin is a good thing to have since he's a piece to a team that seems great, but hard to build. I wish I just had Red Valkyrie, then I might be able to pull it off.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #663 on: June 22, 2015, 04:54:40 PM »
CCool is essentially right here- Red Prong exists, but the pool is incredibly small and if you didn't roll mini-chiyome or Kagu its much much weaker.

Not to mention two of the important cards (leader and tri-prong) are both awoken forms.

It takes a good chunk of luck to run red prong, while Red row you can build incredibly easily.

As an overall, Red row is much stronger, but right now there's no 'mainstream lead' so people are thinking red rows are dead.

It'd switch around overwhelmingly fast if like Awoken Takeru happened.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #664 on: June 22, 2015, 04:57:32 PM »
I want this guy in NA. And i want it for the art. Full stop.



And this guy can go jump off a cliff with my blessing.




On a completely unrelated matter, i'm really agonizing over evolving Shiva and Haku to their Awoken forms. They are both often used in my Ronia team..... but they are so powerful as awokenssssssssss (especially considering i have TWO Kagutsuchi unused in my box)  :qq:  Any advice beside "get dupes"?  :V
Karin isn't even into question.... Awoken as soon as possible *.*
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #665 on: June 22, 2015, 05:07:12 PM »
And this guy can go jump off a cliff with my blessing.

Hey now, I have no ill will toward that guy. I decided I wanted a car, he decided he wanted more PAD. I'm happy with my end of that arrangement, so I got no problem. I wonder if he has more fun than me when he plays this game? I certainly hope so.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #666 on: June 22, 2015, 05:12:01 PM »
I decided I wanted a car, he decided he wanted more PAD.

.....why Sakuya popped into my mind as soon as i read this line? Touhou's fandom is ruining me

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #667 on: June 22, 2015, 05:14:10 PM »
.....why Sakuya popped into my mind as soon as i read this line? Touhou's fandom is ruining me

Booooo.

BOOOOOOOOOO.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #668 on: June 22, 2015, 05:46:25 PM »
So there's some false advertising going on ingame right now. I suggest people try to bring this to light to GH so people aren't decieved.

[13:37] <Chirei|scoole> so ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[13:37] <Chirei|scoole> someone's gonna have to answer at GH for this one somehow
[13:40] <Chirei|scoole> so this is just a sample red team I slapped together with hyorin's sister's hyper leilan as a friend lead, nothing strange here

[13:40] <Chirei|scoole> This is jq's chibi rodin *ingame* as of like five minutes ago (note the LS)

[13:41] <Chirei|scoole> this is the same team with the *level 4* chibi rodin as a lead

[13:41] <Chirei|scoole> note the HP values
[13:41] <Chirei|scoole> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

rdj edit: [12:43:52] <~rdj522> Checking PDX, his leader skill is identical to the actual ROdin (i.e. 1.5x HP/2.5x ATK)
« Last Edit: June 22, 2015, 05:47:26 PM by Wardjeity of the Night, Tsukuyomi »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #669 on: June 22, 2015, 05:52:02 PM »
Ahahahaha, this is glorious.  Thanks so much for looking into that!
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #670 on: June 22, 2015, 07:08:49 PM »
That just makes him all the better, though!

Meanwhile!


GREAAAAAT!



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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #671 on: June 22, 2015, 07:34:21 PM »
Gdit, all I wanna do is set up a dumb stream and all I can get is the inbuilt twitch app.

rip me

edit: nevermind I am a golden god
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #672 on: June 22, 2015, 09:10:07 PM »
Welp, decided to do 2 rolls in the Pad Academy just to not leave regrets behind:

chibi Yamato
chibi Wukong

bah....

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #673 on: June 22, 2015, 11:06:13 PM »
I have apparently earned the title of "sneaky" today by figuring out a way around Hera-Ur's slow effect:


Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #674 on: June 23, 2015, 12:46:59 AM »
DARK BOWL DRAGON IS HARDER THAN CHALLENGE 8 WHY
someone please tell me the best team for this im too stupid to figure it out

Late, but I personally went through your PADHerder and just randomly slapped together a team made of only stuff you could use. I was going to use Diza but I couldn't get a Dubmythlit to drop today, so I just used Alraune instead for health.



Not that hard. 0-stone on first attempt.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #675 on: June 23, 2015, 01:38:22 AM »
I mean I can beat it no problem, but I can't consistently clear it for actual farming


PaD academy was easy however with a friend SS Isis <3 <3 <3

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #676 on: June 23, 2015, 02:01:13 AM »
Well, Rodin ultimate was HUGE and recent. And that's still a tiny pool for prongs. Maybe they're pushing prongs more lately, but there's still a solid backlog of red row stuff that means rows have a lot more options. And a few of the things you mentioned also have a row, which makes them plenty good on row teams. Maybe eventually red prongs will be the thing, but I don't think we're there yet.

Rodin ultimate is huge, but for actual row teams he's a huge double-edged sword because his active is garbage for a row team such as Yamato Takeru. The only red row he's actually pretty good on is for Ult Goemon farming teams... But Rodin ult isn't gonna help in tackling descend content or Challenges.

Going back to this:

As an overall, Red row is much stronger, but right now there's no 'mainstream lead' so people are thinking red rows are dead.

It'd switch around overwhelmingly fast if like Awoken Takeru happened.

Yes, the main problem I have with red rows right now is that all the former red row leaders are pretty old, and running Awoken Leilan with rows is basically saying you have a high amount of skill to produce rows while matching the three necessary colors; this isn't terribly difficult with Lei's AS, but on natural boards or orb-changed boards it can be a bit harder. If Awoken Heroes happened at some point then red rows are probably going to be seeing some great use again.

As it is, the most I've seen of red rows currently is Ult Goemon Farming teams. >_>

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #677 on: June 23, 2015, 02:19:09 AM »
Someday, there might be a red row dragon team of RGY followed by Uriel, Ronia, Minerva, and Yamato Takeru. That day is not today.

Dragons are cool, though...

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #678 on: June 23, 2015, 02:45:20 AM »
Someday, there might be a red row dragon team of RGY followed by Uriel, Ronia, Minerva, and Yamato Takeru. That day is not today.

Dragons are cool, though...

RGY is okay.

GGY on the other hand...

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #679 on: June 23, 2015, 02:57:58 AM »
Green physical just got Meimei! ... except she's a doubledonger.

Who came up with that idea, even. Green physical?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #680 on: June 23, 2015, 03:02:55 AM »
Green physical just got Meimei! ... except she's a doubledonger.


Awoken Meimei's used for the Physical typing?

*looks at her Attacker typing* :*

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #681 on: June 23, 2015, 03:10:54 AM »
Yes, the main problem I have with red rows right now is that all the former red row leaders are pretty old, and running Awoken Leilan with rows is basically saying you have a high amount of skill to produce rows while matching the three necessary colors; this isn't terribly difficult with Lei's AS, but on natural boards or orb-changed boards it can be a bit harder. If Awoken Heroes happened at some point then red rows are probably going to be seeing some great use again.

As it is, the most I've seen of red rows currently is Ult Goemon Farming teams. >_>

I mean that's essentially my point.

Red prong is flavor of the few months.

Red row is the overwhelming archetype of the color.

Red prong just needed a lot of catching up, so they decided to take care of that in a few fell swoops. A. Lei is pretty much a sign they've got something in the works for red row in the future.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #682 on: June 23, 2015, 03:19:47 AM »
Rodin ultimate is huge, but for actual row teams he's a huge double-edged sword because his active is garbage for a row team such as Yamato Takeru. The only red row he's actually pretty good on is for Ult Goemon farming teams... But Rodin ult isn't gonna help in tackling descend content or Challenges.

I don't disagree with that at all. His active is incredibly situational at best, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a viable tool for red rows. Not one that's going to see play in every possible slot, but he's not nothing.

As for modern row leads... Uriel? I mean, if we're discounting the fact that the subs are hard to get, since that's certainly the case with red prongs, then a Uriel/Wangren team should work. It could even probably use Rodin as the partner lead, since my Gabriel team uses I&I and a lot of the time and their active is similarly dubious on a team that already runs Sun Quan. In fact, for some hardcore content Rodin's active might actually be good for grinding bosses. I use Awoken Neptune's active to chip down a lot of floors in God Rush.

Does anyone here have the tools to do Uriel/Takeru/Femme/Wangren/Freyr/Rodin? I want to see someone try that.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #683 on: June 23, 2015, 03:35:37 AM »
Does anyone here have the tools to do Uriel/Takeru/Femme/Wangren/Freyr/Rodin? I want to see someone try that.





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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #684 on: June 23, 2015, 08:04:24 AM »
Somehow ended up with enough dark orbs on the board to allow me to get three fire rows, saving me from certain doom.



he's not getting anyone, sad to say, tiny Flamie kid :(

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #685 on: June 23, 2015, 08:47:23 AM »
My rank 90 friend rolled the PAD academy machine twice even though I tried to tell him it was a silver egg trap.

1) yamato takeru
2) Discipline Committee Chair, Ira Gamagoori Athena

Whelp.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #686 on: June 23, 2015, 09:18:45 AM »
My rank 90 friend rolled the PAD academy machine twice even though I tried to tell him it was a silver egg trap.

1) yamato takeru
2) Discipline Committee Chair, Ira Gamagoori Athena

Whelp.

7 star on second roll, wow.

I rolled some yesterday and got only chibi chiyome on the 4th roll.
gonna roll the rest of my stones today or tomorrow. Lets hope for more gold :D

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #687 on: June 23, 2015, 09:56:37 AM »
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/613266602096656384

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"Nobody really likes dungeons with type or attribute restrictions, so we've been looking into adding stat modifiers (such as HP x1.5, RCV x0.5) on specific types or attributes to dungeons. How's that?"

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #688 on: June 23, 2015, 10:06:03 AM »
I was looking at the Riders 2.0.... with all the Haste actives coming out lately doesn't a max skilled Phoenix Rider becomes almost the same as the infamous Baggi?

He can come really close to 100% uptime like Baggi and has better stats. I find a bit surprising that everyone and their grandma sing praises/drown in envy of Baggi but not so much about the Rider....


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"Nobody really likes dungeons with COST RESTRICTIONS, so we've been looking into adding stat modifiers (such as HP x1.5, RCV x0.5) on specific types or attributes to dungeons. How's that?"
After all these years they STILL get it wrong?!?!?  :matsuriscowl:
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #689 on: June 23, 2015, 10:12:12 AM »
I was looking at the Riders 2.0.... with all the Haste actives coming out lately doesn't a max skilled Phoenix Rider becomes almost the same as the infamous Baggi?

He can come really close to 100% uptime like Baggi and has better stats. I find a bit surprising that everyone and their grandma sing praises/drown in envy of Baggi but not so much about the Rider....


EDITAfter all these years they STILL get it wrong?!?!?  :matsuriscowl:

Phoenix Rider is really good. In all honesty, 100% uptime might be really overrated, it's probably not like you can't get strong enough to like, survive a full-power hit for a turn, we've been doing it for ages.

And yes, cost restriction is way way worse. Thank fuck they haven't released more of those lately.