Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod  (Read 217350 times)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #450 on: June 15, 2015, 05:36:45 PM »
Partly this is just a matter of learning to combo better. Partly to get ready for Ra, since my ultimate vision of this team is Awoken Ra/Kali leads for huge modifier damage. It's also partly to force myself to clear the board more efficiently because if I don't when I play Kali I end up with a board of just green and heal before too long.

Do you think that's hurting my damage significantly? That's never occurred to me. If so, how would I go about keeping the board cleaned up while also maximizing damage?
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #451 on: June 15, 2015, 05:43:26 PM »
how would I go about keeping the board cleaned up while also maximizing damage?

You just... match everything. I'm dead serious. There's really no point in not doing it anyway - I have to do it for Leilan as well, and her conditions are far more lax. The difference there is that anything I don't need I can just attempt to get rid of in clumps if doing normal combos is too hard. You get infinite time to think your moves out, so unless you're trying to do the 25K Horus Challenge or something, it shouldn't be an issue to think it out if you have like a dozen time extends.

I run with 0-1 time extends on any team I use, and this is more than enough to clear at least 24 orbs off the board(6+combo with TPA or more) every turn if I really think. Actual time extend teams should have zero trouble doing this.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #452 on: June 15, 2015, 05:54:31 PM »
Yeah, I'm proooobably not going to do that. I don't have the patience to spend that much time on every single move.

Maybe that's just a bad habit from playing a bulky tean that takes 50-100 turns to clear longer dungeons, but I'm inclined to say I'm probably never going to put THAT much time into most moves. Important ones maybe (which is probably a bad mindset, since that's worth less if I don't set up properly, but fortunately I have Kali's cheat active).

I'm all for practicing and getting better at combos, but I don't know if I can or want to clear the whole board every turn. And if my plan is to do that anyway, why am I worried about non-overlapping leader skill requirements?

For the record, my current team has six time extends, my ideal version has seven, as well as Ra's active for an additional on-demand boost.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #453 on: June 15, 2015, 05:58:03 PM »
Yeah, I'm proooobably not going to do that. I don't have the patience to spend that much time on every single move.

I take about a minute or two on average, and even then my matches are not quite as consistent as I make them out to be. When the board becomes "easy", I take far less time. In fact, you can see roughly how long it takes me to move in a serious situation like the one Super Evo Rush video I put up. The only time where I take like a minute or two to think out my move is during the trifruits part - and i've gotten a lot better since I made that video, I'd like to think. So no, I don't take eons to beat dungeons because I have to think - I literally just think faster and got better after doing it for so long - but I did have to start slow at first.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #454 on: June 15, 2015, 06:07:19 PM »
Actually if 6+ combos with a two-prong is the standard, I'm doing about that right now by virtue of the extends. Without them I would never be able to do that, but with I'm getting 6-7 combos with a two-prong. Aside fron trying to match all colors every turn and trying to get a white prong I don't particularly optimize, but I do have reasonable numbers. Anything beyond that is basically just skyfalls.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #455 on: June 15, 2015, 06:11:45 PM »
Actually if 6+ combos with a two-prong is the standard, I'm doing about that right now by virtue of the extends. Without them I would never be able to do that, but with I'm getting 6-7 combos with a two-prong. Aside fron trying to match all colors every turn and trying to get a white prong I don't particularly optimize, but I do have reasonable numbers. Anything beyond that is basically just skyfalls.

That should be fairly well off for most things, I think. The thing you have to remember is that it's okay to go slow sometimes - eventually you get used to doing it and can eventually execute it/recognize the move in a much shorter time later. A high-combo move that might take someone five minutes to come up with might take me one minute, or something like that. Plus it's better to win 30 minutes later than not win at all.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #456 on: June 15, 2015, 06:14:23 PM »
Plus it's better to win 30 minutes later than not win at all.
Do you even know who you're talking to? I think he has the patience part of PAD down. :P

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #457 on: June 15, 2015, 06:20:32 PM »
Do you even know who you're talking to? I think he has the patience part of PAD down. :P

I can be patient, it took me like 700 turns to clear God Rush, and I've done it twice. Thst said, I'm cautious about spending five minutes on one important move (not that I don't do it, but it's rare) because the more I think it out the more nervous I get and the higher the chance is that I'll botch the execution.

I'm sure I'd get better at that with practice, but up to now I've had more success with a little less thought, a little more ibstinct, and overall safer combos. I am getting better at planning, but it's not easy, and quite often not successful.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #458 on: June 15, 2015, 06:24:05 PM »
the more I think it out the more nervous I get and the higher the chance is that I'll botch the execution.

This one's probably the hardest part bar none, and only because you don't have the giant safety net and bulk of stall teams. Unfortunately, the best anyone can do from here is just learn to try and overcome it in their own way. Once I realized that I've been practicing and pulling off similarly silly shit elsewhere, it becomes a lot less nerve-wracking when the real show comes on.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #459 on: June 15, 2015, 08:18:28 PM »


Piece o' cake.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #460 on: June 15, 2015, 08:22:39 PM »
I've tried yoloing matches. Rarely does it end well.


I need to get on the ball. I haven't cleared anything cool lately.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #461 on: June 15, 2015, 08:58:25 PM »
I just discovered that it's possible to get TWO invades in a single run..... got 2 Keepers of Light while doing the Blue Keeper dungeon.

Now game please explain how in the blazes i get 2 invades of the only keeper i don't need in JP and in 8 Kingdom-level runs in NA I&I skill-up didn't show up once.....  :colbert:

commandercool

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #462 on: June 15, 2015, 09:04:18 PM »
Now game commandercool please explain how in the blazes i get 2 invades of the only keeper i don't need in JP and in 8 Kingdom-level runs in NA I&I skill-up didn't show up once.....  :colbert:

RNG.:colbert:
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #463 on: June 16, 2015, 12:30:34 AM »
Andromeda at +295... close enough :derp:

Now all that's left is skill-ups...

has anyone else done fairy skill ups? how painful is it exactly :ohdear:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #464 on: June 16, 2015, 12:46:46 AM »
has anyone else done fairy skill ups? how painful is it exactly :ohdear:

hi

they suck a lot tbh, single lits are assholish and the best place for flowers is open once a week.

if you just stock up on flowers and wait for the right times for dungeon of x they'll go alright, but it'l take time.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #465 on: June 16, 2015, 12:47:14 AM »
Andromeda at +295... close enough :derp:

Now all that's left is skill-ups...

has anyone else done fairy skill ups? how painful is it exactly :ohdear:

I have already used one Bubpy on Andromeda, two skillups left to go to max. Good luck.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #466 on: June 16, 2015, 01:41:51 AM »
Time for me to move to the US and work for GungHo NA so I can fix all their shit right?

i kinda like my current job security though... damn, if these ads came out just a year later!! :V

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hyorinryu

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #467 on: June 16, 2015, 02:38:45 AM »
I didn't think Hero skill ups were that bad. I just spammed dungeon of water and later thursday dungeon. I did it during 2.5x though, so Idk.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #468 on: June 16, 2015, 02:43:20 AM »


next mission, plus egg farming!!!

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #469 on: June 16, 2015, 02:56:01 AM »
Hey, Chaore.

I tried using your Yamato Takeru since none of my 195 other friends have him apparently.

13 skill boosts is incredible.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #470 on: June 16, 2015, 03:00:20 AM »
Hey, Chaore.

I tried using your Yamato Takeru since none of my 195 other friends have him apparently.

13 skill boosts is incredible.

all hail triple SB

everything you want up on turn 1 and it is beautiful

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #471 on: June 16, 2015, 03:04:51 AM »
Double Yamato Takeru
Double Belial
Suzaku
Ronia

Belial is up in four turns and no lack of skill ups is going to stop me.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #472 on: June 16, 2015, 03:39:35 AM »
Belial is up in four turns and no lack of skill ups is going to stop me.

and then you use him once... then...

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #473 on: June 16, 2015, 03:47:53 AM »
Castle of Satan Pys are going somewhere.
Only need... 18 more between the two of them.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #474 on: June 16, 2015, 04:11:08 AM »
Castle of Satan Pys are going somewhere.
Only need... 18 more between the two of them.

hey... at least you aren't me; I still need... hmm. I still need 11 more Shynpy for ONE SINGLE MONSTER and 12 more Badpy for A DIFFERENT ONE

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #475 on: June 16, 2015, 04:28:09 AM »
and then you use him once... then...

Having him up once can mean a lot.


...not particularly in that lineup, but still.

We'd fucking love to have him skilled up though but :fuckNA:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #476 on: June 16, 2015, 04:33:19 AM »
RNG.:colbert:

Went to sleep after this.
Woke up at 3am by little brother going to work.
Tossed around in bed for half an hour unable to go back to sleep.
"To hell with this" and turned up PAD.
3 more runs of HK thanks to rank up, still no I&I.
Went to JP to stockpile a bit more keepers.
First run:


Not seen, i also encountered a green golem in the same run but it didn't drop.

commandercool, when you meet that guy you call RNG, tell him that he either have a weird sense of humor or is simply a ruddy bastard....
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #478 on: June 16, 2015, 05:43:47 AM »


You're gonna have to do better than that with your poison, Izanami. 9094 autoheal says hi.


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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #479 on: June 16, 2015, 06:08:11 AM »
0/10 gadius skillups during x2.5

his skill up monster is Keeper of Gold

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