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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #360 on: June 12, 2015, 06:05:35 PM »
Here's a picture of me doing the most basic possible full activation of Kali. Six combos, all of her activation colors, including a single white two-prong.

it's a basic activation and my combo count could be way higher, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect it to always be higher

*sloooowly improving on his activation of Osiris without even bothering with 2prong....*
I feel like a scrub now  :smokedcheese:

Oh well, sooner or later i'll get there  :) (although i shudder thinking of those that mains A.Ra or Anubis, heck even A. Bastet.....)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #361 on: June 12, 2015, 06:22:54 PM »
So what I'm seeing here is, neither of these teams are really capable of one-shotting buff (4-5 million hp) bosses outright without actives, at least reliably. What do you think? If those pengras were a boss about to kill you and you were comboing all-out rather than trying to duplicate my combo are you confident you could just kill it?

And of course, if our thesis is "Sakuya can afford to run all utility subs because her modifier provides enough damage", the thing we haven't talked about is her active. 36% gravity from two Sakuyas is notable. It takes a four million health boss down to a fairly manageable 2.56. You can only do that every so often, but it's not common to see multiple threatening floors in a row with more than a couple million health.

When it comes to REALLY scary bosses in the 5-6 million health range things start to look more grim, but those are often dark so far, so maybe it's not too bad.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #362 on: June 12, 2015, 08:22:47 PM »
It just occurred to me that I may have to hyper Isis as a Skuld sub. At this rate, she's standing behind like 3 other dudes in line, though.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #363 on: June 12, 2015, 10:22:36 PM »
friday dungeon pls

all i want are devilits

but i keep getting DIETOSKYFALLITS :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #364 on: June 12, 2015, 11:44:47 PM »
all I want is dub-mythlits, but I keep getting orbstopmovinglits
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #365 on: June 13, 2015, 12:01:37 AM »
Hmm. I think the comparison is, LKali has more sustained damage. At any given point, you're likely to have the combos available to trigger x36. The total orb power might not give you much Light attack, but you have so much doubledonger power and board conversions that you can get by.

Contrast with Sakuya, who needs to drop an active to hit x36. Sure, six orb enhances between 2x Sakuya+Valk means that everyone passively gets a TPA, but the shortest and most popular active skill is still Valk at 5 turns. Granted, this means that Sakuya's x36 turns will usually be very powerful.

Also of note is that the Light orbs generated by heartbreakers will not be enhanced unless you do so yourself. Athena is low enough on cd; LZL has healing attached that you make up for the hearts you just broke. Takeminakata adds a lot of bulk; Hera-Sowilo has a damage reduction to boot!

The last trump card that Sakuya has is that so many orb enhances will shine when your board is saturated with light orbs.  If given the chance to set up, Sakuya is a world destroying monster. This doesn't happen very frequently unless you have an Apollo active, or the boss converts dark to light for you or something, though.

LKali? You have board conversions up the wazoo that ensure you're going to deal -some- damage. That's more than Sakuya can say, being very susceptible to orb trolling unless she fields her own LKali. :V
« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 12:03:50 AM by Fast Fanatic »

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #366 on: June 13, 2015, 01:10:09 AM »
finally pandora ulted

oh why hello there sonia grand

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #367 on: June 13, 2015, 01:17:08 AM »
Died to Ronia if not only because of that FUCKING combo drain. I hate those so goddamn much.

If I can just get past her.... I think I can do this.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #368 on: June 13, 2015, 01:29:25 AM »
friday dungeon pls

all i want are devilits either lits Kali pls

but i keep getting DIETOSKYFALLITS :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:

EDIT:  THIRTEEN FUCKING SKY COMBO WHAT IS THIS SHIT  :colonveeplusalpha:

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #369 on: June 13, 2015, 01:34:53 AM »
oh hey you can beat sonia grand with skuld?

well fuck it, aIsis wont be here for another like 4 months and they share pretty much the same subs so might as well dump all my exp into her

we skuldboys now lets go

>turn 1 wood dragon
>nothing i can do

fuck this


also fuck my friend list has like 1 skuld

okay whoever has a hypermaxed skuld or andromeda i'm BFing you right now
« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 01:36:32 AM by Suikama »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #370 on: June 13, 2015, 01:43:31 AM »
Hands are still shaking.

Man. I didn't expect myself to actually
Spoiler:
use Sakuya as my "fuck this shit, this is being no-stoned" leader again.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #371 on: June 13, 2015, 01:56:16 AM »
fucking bullshit again

followed a guide step by step

made it to ronia

turns out their method of beating ronia was "get lucky with a skyfall"

yeah thanks


I'm so glad I spent all those stones just to set this up

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #372 on: June 13, 2015, 02:06:37 AM »
Sakuya game-plan

Wave 1: encountered green dragon
oops gotta heal
At least I have three turns to not get orb trolled
Wave 2: encounter blue dragon
oops I one-shot it
Wave 3: Shit it's Blue Sonia
Managed to combo it up to sustain myself until I could actually attack. Woot.
Wave 4: Shit it's Green Sonia
Dropped a Sakuya gravity just for safety. Didn't get orb-trolled, RUN IS STILL ALIVE
Wave 5: Shit it's Red Sonia
SHIT SHE BOUND LZL
I HAVE SIX HEAL ORBS ATTACKERASU GOGOGOGOGOGO
Wave 6: SHIT I'M AT THE BOSS
let's use Big Dog to weaken her down -does 35%-
can't proc Sakuya this board
-am crying-
Eats poison attack, heals it off, uses second Sakuya gravity to bring Sonia to a kill range

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #373 on: June 13, 2015, 02:14:45 AM »
First try! I really want to see how i'd hold up against Wave 1 Graviton, though.


Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #374 on: June 13, 2015, 02:26:13 AM »
oh right Skuld actually has ridiculous RCV

fuck me all I needed to do was stall on Ronia argggggg

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #375 on: June 13, 2015, 02:27:43 AM »


crap crap crap crap crap



okay we're good now


Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #376 on: June 13, 2015, 02:37:28 AM »
okay whoever has a hypermaxed skuld or andromeda i'm BFing you right now

Do you need mine up again? I'll throw it up as many times as you like if you're saving your BF for someone else with better compatiability still.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #377 on: June 13, 2015, 02:45:57 AM »
well i'm all out of stamina anyways now <_<

I also went to padx and added every +297 skuld i could find so tomorrow hopefully i'll have a bunch more tries

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #378 on: June 13, 2015, 02:47:24 AM »
well i'm all out of stamina anyways now <_<

I also went to padx and added every +297 skuld i could find so tomorrow hopefully i'll have a bunch more tries

Dang. Well feel free to poke me tomorrow somehow if that doesn't pan out, I always have hyper Skuld in slot 2.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #379 on: June 13, 2015, 02:48:27 AM »
Went at it with double Beelzebub. Actually no-stoned!

I got hit by Zero Laser when she had 5%~ of her HP left.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #380 on: June 13, 2015, 02:52:21 AM »
Blue Carnival too stronk pls nerf

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6 blue-carnival: Beast Riders x2, Shalon, I&I, Sarasvati, Neptune
1 off-ges: Cerebus Rider

Considering I got like 6 non-dupes I should be happy but
the lack of green except green odin in the past months is killing me. :colonveeplusalpha:

Time to test out suikama's best girl's awoken form I guess

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #381 on: June 13, 2015, 04:28:08 AM »
Oh shit, I didn't realize White Sonia was up today. I'd give it a shot, but I need my stamina to keep doing Twinlits. I got a skillup on both Kalis already, I'm actually feeling the 2.5x skillups this time around, so I don't want to waste a second of this opportunity.

I'll deal with Gran tomorrow. Shouldn't be too much trouble. The hardest part seems to be knocking her below half without killing her. My damage is a little hard to control at that level. Or maybe I should just bring my trusty Awoken Neptune buddy to be absolutely sure I can tank her forever. I can even take a Draggie-enhanced Divine Star with Neptune. That might be the way to do it.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #382 on: June 13, 2015, 05:32:26 AM »
wtf

first time i made triple rows and killed green sonia in one hit


now i do double row + TPA and it failed to kill

and I only have 3 row awakenings but 7 TPAs

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #383 on: June 13, 2015, 07:23:01 AM »
wtf

first time i made triple rows and killed green sonia in one hit


now i do double row + TPA and it failed to kill

and I only have 3 row awakenings but 7 TPAs

Rows boost the whole team; TPAs only boost the monster with the TPAs, so actually even if you have 7 total TPAs they may not be distributed evenly?

In other news, I beat the desire sensor


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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #384 on: June 13, 2015, 07:30:22 AM »
Considering I got like 6 non-dupes I should be happy but
the lack of green except green odin in the past months is killing me. :colonveeplusalpha:




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In other news, I beat the desire sensor

High five!

btw Suikama, it probably has to do with how the TPA bonus only applies to the 4 orbs you cleared, but not for the 6 orb combos aka it's not worth it to mix rows and TPAs in the same combo if your main bonus is TPAs.
Two rows only get you x1.6 on everyone, but x1.6x3.375 for Blue Odin only on for the 4 orb combo worth of damage
If you did 3 TPAs you'd have gotten x3.375(*3*1.25 because three 4 orb combos) on Blue Odin alone and I'm not sure what else you got but I think it's probably more beneficial that way.
In terms of numbers, on Blue Odin, the multiplier is (1.6*1.75*2+1.6*3.375*1.25) vs (3.375*3*1.25)
Consider you could've made 4 TPAs if you tried hard enough too.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 07:39:23 AM by Thaws »

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #385 on: June 13, 2015, 07:56:25 AM »
Note for people regarding Kingly Triumph Gift Dungeon:

-When you go into a dungeon, PAL points are already distributed whether you beat it or not. A person trying to squeeze the most out of their stamina can just enter and exit Kingly Triumph to effectively exchange 1 Stamina for 5, 10, or 100 Pal Points depending on what kind of friend leader was used - but no other rewards. Use at your own discretion.

With the 288 regenerated Stamina a day and 288 Best Friends, someone could technically bang out 28,800 PAL points a day just doing nothing but this, and that's only using the friends on their end. Of course, this is probably nigh impossible to set up since of the absurd amount of BFs required, but probably not a bad idea if you hadn't used your BFs today and need to send them their PAL points really fast before bed or something.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 08:04:41 AM by OverlordChirei »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #386 on: June 13, 2015, 08:15:33 AM »
yolo

shit

Also, anyone here not have a BFF yet? I haven't used mine yet. (Who LMeta/Athena here?)
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #387 on: June 13, 2015, 08:56:33 AM »
I'm so tired of my goddamm Vamp NOT being max skilled.... half of the descent i've not cleared yet have some shit on floor 1 (or need Lu Bu >_>) next time Poring Tower comes around i'll spam it until my phone break....

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #388 on: June 13, 2015, 09:03:43 AM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
« Reply #389 on: June 13, 2015, 09:42:08 AM »
Also, anyone here not have a BFF yet? I haven't used mine yet. (Who LMeta/Athena here?)

The people I can think off the top of my head with both of those are jq, Arashi(chibi LMeta), and triangles. I don't know for sure if they actually have BFFs already though.