Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game

[Chaore]

And that, my friends, is why lucifer is the only monster I want anymore.

Chaore I understand the point you're trying to make but you shouldn't be making it to Ghaleon, you should be making it to Gungho (who will ignore you because they're already giving persephone et al an ult evo which will, given the endless power creep of the game, improve her and her friends dramatically)

Fair. To be honest I just like talking about balance and shit in games because I am a closet game designer wannabee with no talent ;w;

And actually there is like a 99% chance all she gets is another element and her bonus stacked onto another set of creatures that does absolutely nothing to improve her ability as a leader. Maybe a few extra stats.

Edit: Oh and maybe another classification which makes her better as a sub.

[Suikama]

Im pretty sure if you have a Lucifer and a Horus/Ra you can beat every single dungeon in the game minus restrictions like Tricolor

so yeah this game is not balanced :derp:


oh shit Koryu dungeon is out

let see how hard this is

...dat 200k attack


damn Koryu himself is a real fighter

he heals you to full and uses no tricks, just punches your face in every turn for 200k damage rofl



rofl all the chinese girls get preemptive abilities... that do nothing

just so they all get to talk

for dat moe factor

[Chaore]

It's not really, I agree. It's all very silly and such.

Also amusingly Mexibeam Egyptian spam exactly like I expected.

zzzz new tricks please gungho

[Suikama]

actually on second thought this game is balanced

its perfectly balanced around getting you to spend money

[Chaore]

actually on second thought this game is balanced

its perfectly balanced around getting you to spend money

Pretty much.

And it works.

Edit: at getting you to spend money i mean

[Suikama]

also from what i've seen so far changed orbs cannot be +orb unless they were already a +orb in the first place

so awakening skills are generally pretty useless aside from Skill Boost and no bind OdinAmmy (who still cant even compete in later dungeons so who cares)


basically roll until you get Kirin/Ra/Horus. Learn to match orbs. Congrats you beat Puzzles and Dragons.


Okay at least new orbs that drop during combos can be +orbed

So for regular combos if you have all +orbs then it can help your damage

[hyorinryu]

Im pretty sure if you have a Lucifer and a Horus/Ra you can beat every single dungeon in the game minus restrictions like Tricolor

so yeah this game is not balanced :derp:


oh shit Koryu dungeon is out

let see how hard this is

...dat 200k attack


damn Koryu himself is a real fighter

he heals you to full and uses no tricks, just punches your face in every turn for 200k damage rofl



rofl all the chinese girls get preemptive abilities... that do nothing

just so they all get to talk

for dat moe factor

Does that mean everything in technical dungeons calls their attacks?

Also, if Luci and Horus are all that are needed, Isn't Kirin everything?

[Suikama]

okay yeah Kirin is probably the best single monster in the game. She does enough damage to take out any dungeon and she has fucking GRAVITY skills which puts her above Horus/Ra. Lucifer is still the easiest way to cheese through the game though.

also Haku and Kirin actually have preemptive strikes so there's some clear favoritism here :V

[hyorinryu]

okay yeah Kirin is probably the best single monster in the game. She does enough damage to take out any dungeon and she has fucking GRAVITY skills which puts her above Horus/Ra. Lucifer is still the easiest way to cheese through the game though.

also Haku and Kirin actually have preemptive strikes so there's some clear favoritism here :V

I asked the REM for Luci, and it gave me the Archdemon.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

I have a Horus and a Ra and a Kirin.

I just also have zero orb matching skills. :V

[hyorinryu]

I have a Horus and a Ra and a Kirin.

I just also have zero orb matching skills. :V

I have a Kirin and I never use her for anything actually hard.

[O4rfish]

also Haku and Kirin actually have preemptive strikes so there's some clear favoritism here :V

Kirin is in the dungeon?

[Ghaleon]

Blah, like I said I didn't want to argue but I don't really like the fact that you misread my point to the point that my opinion was flat out moronic.

I wasn't saying that those gods were older than persephone/apollo.. I wasn't saying you can't compare the bracket within itself. I was comparing that entire bracket as a whole, as "older gods" (not individuals among them) being obsolete to the newer shit like the new japanese gods, the new chinese gods, etc. I'm saying that persephone and co should try to be updated so that they are compareable to the newer gods like chinese/jpn2.0, ALONG WITH the other older gods that you are so scared that will become even more obsolete. Provided both get updated to the same extentish, I think simple number tweaking is an improvement even if not the best answer.

I don't really care if you disagree if that point is correct or not, but it's certainly better than just leaving things as is and calling it broken IMO. I just don't want you assuming that I'm saying the dumbest nonsense possible (like persephone is older than ares and should be compared to chinese gods while ares can rot) when that wasn't what I was hoping to communicate at all.

[Suikama]

Kirin is in the dungeon?

yes all 5 are there along with rainbow keeper and a stage with 2 mystic masks 2 mythlit and 1 tamadora (the awakening material)

[Suikama]

so uh apparently this guy is already out, and might have been out for a while? :derp:

[Edible]

so uh apparently this guy is already out, and might have been out for a while? :derp:

Yeah, he was added in the last patch I think

[Ghaleon]

Wut!? Damnit, i would have fed mine some emmy pengdras instead of my venus.

Also i think one of my friends is a bot. The dude always gets descended dungeons bawses as a leader with like +100 over and over... Ok so maybe hes just a big casher? Well, currently he has a satan, with 40ish +rcvs... Why would you waste +rcvs on a satan, whyyy

[Suikama]

maybe they hacked the game or something

also for some reason sound now magically works on my android

[hyorinryu]

Maybe my android will magically let me take screenshots.\

Wut!? Damnit, i would have fed mine some emmy pengdras instead of my venus.

Also i think one of my friends is a bot. The dude always gets descended dungeons bawses as a leader with like +100 over and over... Ok so maybe hes just a big casher? Well, currently he has a satan, with 40ish +rcvs... Why would you waste +rcvs on a satan, whyyy

Reminds me. I saw a dude with Zeus-Dios at rank 70.

[Suikama]

Maybe my android will magically let me take screenshots.
Reminds me. I saw a dude with Zeus-Dios at rank 70.

they probably started with a Kirin/Luci

...or they just "bought" him *shudder*

[Ghaleon]

blarg.. I can evolve and ultimate evolve my puzzdroid if only I had a green keeper.. Why do I always find myself needing those effing things shortly after a tuesday.

[Suikama]

at least you can farm the 5 (rofl) dragon fruits today for the ult evo

[Ghaleon]

I already have 10 so bleh.
I tend to keep em cuz they are worth 5k exp as food and make great tools for doing that last bit of levelling that is too small for a peng/high bu too much for common trash

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Yeah I didn't realize how good fruits were just as XP, I might keep farming the Thursday dungeon even after I top off my stash. (I cleared out a bunch of evo mats I didn't need at one point but I do still try to keep around whatever's needed for everything I do own even if I don't intend to evo them any time soon due to oh god the XP - so I ulted my own Droidragon today but still need at least ooooooooooooooone more fruit ideally today :V)

[Suikama]

i got a naga on my 2nd account jesus shit at this point I'm pretty much guaranteed to be able to get farther on this account then my main

I think I'm just gonna devote my main account to pimpin out Isis

+297 MAX lvl MAX Skill MAX Awakening Isis here I come~


so someone did the math and in order to essentially guarantee getting a MAX skilled Echidna you need to feed it 60 Nagas

that as many as 6 tens and thats terrible

[hyorinryu]

i got a naga on my 2nd account jesus shit at this point I'm pretty much guaranteed to be able to get farther on this account then my main

I think I'm just gonna devote my main account to pimpin out Isis

+297 MAX lvl MAX Skill MAX Awakening Isis here I come~


so someone did the math and in order to essentially guarantee getting a MAX skilled Echidna you need to feed it 60 Nagas

that as many as 6 tens and thats terrible

If it makes you feel better, seeing how Bastet buffs make her come in to Isis territory, maybe she'll get something too. Also, it seems that once again, Norse Gods are getting buffed   

[Suikama]

All Isis really needs to be top tier is a better active ability for killing bosses. Either a gravity like Kirin, a full board tricolor change like the other Chinese girls would do, a temporary damage multiplier, or a mini defensive ability like the new Japanese gods. Unfortunately it's really unlikely that will happen as there are already skill up materials for her current ability.

Maybe they'll add on x3.5 if Red, Green, Blue matches so she can at least keep up with the Chinese girls. Then she can at least keep up a bit in damage while still keeping her versatility.

Actually that would be the best and most realistic option (on top of a secondary Green color) as it would be in line with Bastet's leader ability change, where she basically has the same leader ability as normal Bastet but on top of that gets extra damage with other combinations.

so yeah GUNGHO PLS


Also on a side note. Since it turns out +Orbs dont work on orb changers and I think Damage enhance actually does work on everyone on your team, this is effectively a buff to all Norse Gods since they all get 2 damage enhances. Their leader skill + 2 rows of orbs matches = x2.1 damage

[Edible]

Isis is still eminently useable though

Bastet was utterly useless before and is merely "kind of useful" now

She's still completely obliterated by kushinada :<

[Suikama]

Bastet is an okay sub on other Egyptian teams though because mass cats. (Of course this is not so useful in descends because there are no multi bosses aside from Two Heroes >_>)

And New Japanese Gods - New Meta

What a great way to get people to spend more stones next Godfest


...oh man I just realized fucking Satan with his 3 damage enhancers (6 with a Satan ally leader) will get an extra 120% damage with two row matches, effectively bringing his leader damage multiplier to x27. So yeah he hits as hard as Goemon/Kirin with a condition that's not that hard to meet (and still hits for 12.25x without meeting that condition). Even harder if you have subs with even more damage enhancers or +dark orbs.

Same goes for Dark metatron

Of course they buff the fucking dark types

Just for fun, a 6 Satan team gets x34.3 with one row and x56.36 damage with two rows. Good luck getting those matches without orb converters though (although it's more luck than skill). Also have fun with no Ceres for healing. At least you also get 40k HP rofl.

[Suikama]

okay so there is a big downside to lucifer

holy shit he is so boring

even in normal dungeons i have to stall 35 turns to clear bosses its just auuuugggghhhhh