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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #210 on: June 11, 2013, 03:15:02 PM »
PIKACHU'S CUTENESS THRESHOLD IS TOO LOW

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« Reply #211 on: June 11, 2013, 03:21:40 PM »
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« Reply #212 on: June 11, 2013, 03:33:04 PM »
AND IT'S STRONG AGAINST DRAGON

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« Reply #213 on: June 11, 2013, 03:38:53 PM »

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #214 on: June 11, 2013, 03:57:25 PM »
So they're basically making all the cute things fairy-type. :V

Ehehehe you just called Gardevoir cute.

*Shot for immaturity*

Also what is the logic for fairies being strong against Dragons?

How is Marill a Fairy suddenly?

Why did they reveal Jigglypuff as Fairy but not, you know.. Clefairy?

Why does this feel like a blatant attempt to shoehorn something in to nerf Dragons?
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« Reply #215 on: June 11, 2013, 03:58:46 PM »
Re-type Clefable! CLEFABLE FOR OU!
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« Reply #216 on: June 11, 2013, 04:01:24 PM »
Why does this feel like a blatant attempt to shoehorn something in to nerf Dragons?

about fucking time imo

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #217 on: June 11, 2013, 04:04:51 PM »
about fucking time imo

They could do that by adding better Ice moves. Or an Ice/Steel type or something.

Not shoehorn in a type that:
1: Makes no sense as to why Fairies beat Dragons
2: Has no sense on what it's given to. How are Marill and Gardevoir fairies?
3: Seems to draw from... nothing to do with fairies. Moonblast? Well, I'm willing to bet Wish and Moonlight will be re-typed to Fairy too. Why not just all it 'Cosmic' or something like that? Ton better than 'Fairy' and could easily encompass anything mystical/drawing power from the skies.

[Although even then Marill doesn't make sense]

Nerfing Dragons? Yay

Shoehorning in a type that seems to make no sense? Not yay. When they made Magnemite Steel, it MADE SENSE.

Also 'Fairy Wind'. They could at least have made a better name for that attack that makes it look less like 'Shove it in'

Also Dragon itself isn't the problem. It's the fact most Dragons have stupid BST's, and usually wide movepools which include Fire attacks to melt Steels. If a type which didn't hit stuff SE was a problem, Normal would be broken.
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #218 on: June 11, 2013, 04:05:56 PM »
Why does this feel like a blatant attempt to shoehorn something in to nerf Dragons?

why, are you afraid your precious Dragons will get their shit wrecked by badass cutiepies?

It's a great opportunity for Pokemon to get nerfed and buffed. There's rumors that Fairy is weak to Steel and Poison, which is good.

They could do that by adding better Ice moves. Or an Ice/Steel type or something.

Ice is a horrible defensive typing to even have, lol

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« Reply #219 on: June 11, 2013, 04:08:55 PM »
As I said, nerfing Dragons is yay. [Although, Dragon-type itself isn't the issue. It's the BST's and movepools. Dragons aren't broken in Little Cup, where Dratini isn't stronger in stats than everything else yet.]

Having actual logic is better. Psychic is weak to Bug, Dark and Ghost because those are fears. Fire burns Grass. Poision destroys nature. Water conducts Electricity. Ice shatters, so is weak to Fighting, Rock and Steel. Reptiles are cold-blooded, so Ice beats Dragon, while Fire is resisted.

Most weaknesses and strengths make sense.

Fairy v Dragon? Nah.

I simply don't like it from a flavor perspective.

And if they make all those Cosmic moves Fairy Type I am so calling Fairy 'Astral'.
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« Reply #220 on: June 11, 2013, 04:10:06 PM »
:dealwithit:

meanwhile I'm gonna be pondering how I can finally make a team of cute pokemon that can actually stand a chance against all the OP shit

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« Reply #221 on: June 11, 2013, 04:17:53 PM »
:wikipedia:


This sounds basically like bitter whinging to me. The competitive community as far as I can see it are generally satisfied with the change.

Furthermore, you can't seriously be telling me the Fairy type doesn't make sense when Fairy or Fairy-like Pokemon have been a constant mainstay of the Pokemon franchise.



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« Reply #222 on: June 11, 2013, 04:19:11 PM »
Ehehehe you just called Gardevoir cute.

You're god damn right I did. :|

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« Reply #223 on: June 11, 2013, 04:25:17 PM »
This sounds basically like bitter whinging to me. The competitive community as far as I can see it are generally satisfied with the change.

Furthermore, you can't seriously be telling me the Fairy type doesn't make sense when Fairy or Fairy-like Pokemon have been a constant mainstay of the Pokemon franchise.

And 'Fairy' has been an egg group name since like gen 2 so

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #224 on: June 11, 2013, 04:51:13 PM »
There's rumors that Fairy is weak to Steel and Poison, which is good.

Now instead of drag mag, there'll be drag-scizor teams.

Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #225 on: June 11, 2013, 05:19:08 PM »
As I said, nerfing Dragons is yay. [Although, Dragon-type itself isn't the issue. It's the BST's and movepools. Dragons aren't broken in Little Cup, where Dratini isn't stronger in stats than everything else yet.]

Having actual logic is better. Psychic is weak to Bug, Dark and Ghost because those are fears. Fire burns Grass. Poision destroys nature. Water conducts Electricity. Ice shatters, so is weak to Fighting, Rock and Steel. Reptiles are cold-blooded, so Ice beats Dragon, while Fire is resisted.

Most weaknesses and strengths make sense.

Fairy v Dragon? Nah.

I simply don't like it from a flavor perspective.

And if they make all those Cosmic moves Fairy Type I am so calling Fairy 'Astral'.
Flying weak to electricity? Ground immune to electricity?

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« Reply #226 on: June 11, 2013, 05:21:12 PM »
And 'Fairy' has been an egg group name since like gen 2 so

And guess who's not in the egg group.

Eevee.
Ralts.

Both given Fairy-type evolutions.

See where I'm coming from? And I couldn't care less about points about competitive side of things. I'm talking about Flavor. I already said I'm happy that there's a new type to beat Dragons. I'm just not happy that the type makes no goddamn sense.

Oh, and it's not like everything in the Fairy Egg-group can be Fairy-type too. Breloom is already Grass/Fighting. Jumpluff is Grass/Flying. Froslass is Ice/Ghost. I'd say Togetic/Togekiss but they may be re-typed to Fairy/Flying.

In before Egg Group overhaul.

Flying weak to electricity? Ground immune to electricity?

Lightning strikes high objects. Flying objects are high. Hence, flying-types are weak to Electric.

What does every plug have? A GROUND, as a safety feature. A lightling bolt doesn't exactly do much to the earth itself when it strikes either. It just fizzles. Maybe leaves a slight char. It certainly isn't conducted.
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #227 on: June 11, 2013, 05:22:45 PM »
Lightning strikes high objects.
uh yeah, high GROUNDED objects

also dark is weak vs bug because evil people hate bugs yes but ghosts nah they're fine
« Last Edit: June 11, 2013, 05:25:52 PM by Suikama »

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« Reply #228 on: June 11, 2013, 05:25:26 PM »
uh yeah, high GROUNDED objects

Why do planes not fly during heavy storms and inclement weather? It's not safe.

Why do birds seek shelter during a thunderstorm?

What's more bizzare, and I've never quite got, is why Steel ISN'T weak to Electric.

Anyway, I think I'll stop moaning about the flavor of Fairy until we know the full list of Fairy-types, and Fairy-type moves, and the type chart of Fairy-types. Maybe it will make sense later,
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« Reply #229 on: June 11, 2013, 05:27:02 PM »
Why do birds seek shelter during a thunderstorm?
because of the rain?

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #230 on: June 11, 2013, 05:33:52 PM »
This may actually be the dumbest argument on the board atm and there's probably a powerlevel debate somewhere I haven't crushed. :V

Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #231 on: June 11, 2013, 05:36:01 PM »
fairys obv have a higher power level on the mythical scale than dragons that's why they counter them

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« Reply #232 on: June 11, 2013, 05:52:42 PM »
This may actually be the dumbest argument on the board atm and there's probably a powerlevel debate somewhere I haven't crushed. :V

Well I never intended this to become an argument. Just me being me and getting irritated when people don't seem to even understand my PoV [Not agree with it... understand it]


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« Reply #233 on: June 11, 2013, 06:43:46 PM »
Well I never intended this to become an argument. Just me being me and getting irritated when people don't seem to even understand my PoV [Not agree with it... understand it]

Of course I understood it. You don't think the term 'fairy' fits as well as other words do. I was also saying it's really a petty thing for you to be getting worked up about, if it's really nothing more than an issue of word choice. :V

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« Reply #234 on: June 11, 2013, 07:05:23 PM »
I dunno about you guys, I'm just excited to get to PET FLUFFY POKEMON

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« Reply #235 on: June 11, 2013, 07:40:40 PM »
Of course I understood it. You don't think the term 'fairy' fits as well as other words do. I was also saying it's really a petty thing for you to be getting worked up about, if it's really nothing more than an issue of word choice. :V

It's also 'Why exactly are fairies strong against dragons? I don't see the logic.' and 'Why exactly are Marill and Gardevoir Fairies now?'


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« Reply #236 on: June 11, 2013, 07:42:04 PM »
i think fairy is meant to be more like whismical creature than tiny creature with butterfly wings

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - X and Y versions announcement
« Reply #237 on: June 11, 2013, 08:54:45 PM »
>Pokemon-Amie
It literally burns.

Also: My Marill Can't Possibly Counter This Dragon

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« Reply #238 on: June 11, 2013, 08:56:22 PM »
You can pet the Pokemon and feed them pretty patties.


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« Reply #239 on: June 11, 2013, 08:57:42 PM »
i think those might be macaroons