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~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 02:00:19 AM

Title: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 02:00:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/UXW5fXU.jpg)

Puzzle & Dragons is an ios/android puzzle RPG.  It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon.  It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained frequently as rewards in-game), which allow for increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more.  If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any.  (It's recommended you don't because you are almost guaranteed to be super frustrated at getting screwed by bad rolls ;_;)

You can control monsters from lowly slimes to mighty (?) dragons to even gods like Verdandi (above).  They all have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.

If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/

A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine.  It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare (a God).  Great starters include any of the Chinese Gods, Ares, Bastet, Isis, Idunn & Idunna, Lu Bu, Fallen Angel Lucifer, Odin, U&Y, Shiva, Red Sonia, and many others.  Feel free to ask!

If you need more help or just want to discuss the game, we also have a P&D channel on the MoTK IRC network in here. (https://webchat.ppirc.net/?channels=puzzleandlibrarians) Just type your name and go.
For those using IRC clients other than webchat, the channel is #puzzleandlibrarians on irc.ppirc.net.

List of friends:

Edible: 328,945,274
hyorinryu: 357.646.299
Suikama: 348.941.282
SuikamaEX: 396.277.239
Soichiro: 389,177,249
triangles: 322.456.235
Nobu: 389,151,231
Arashi: 361,443,282
Chaore: 344,844,286
Ghaleon: 374,256,217
Labuto: 362,441,209
omgkitties: 301,354,227
Twillsky: 320,059,211
O4rfish: 389,956,257
Mode: 384,458,286
Arcorann: 326,368,215
Yukarin: 394.177.213
Jq1790: 396,049,294
Pesco: 328 276 294
MJP: 370,479,279
Dibble: 314,673,283
Matsuri: 358,689,277
Fast Fanatic: 359,184,275
Sacchi Hikaru: 385,394,297
rdj: 338,277,280
Chirei: 326,404,383
En: 351,629,319
commandercool: 312,728,337
Aoshi: 398,822,333
Bonkeror (Conqueror): 331,616,320
Lem: 386.230.369
Espadas: 367,032,362
EspadasEX: 301,335,377
MoogsParfait: 313,455,268
Dorakyura: 347,957,300
MewMewHeart: 310,157,312
Bio: 336,681,244

Topic Archive
Thread I (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Thread II (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)
Thread III (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15370.0.html)
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Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 18, 2014, 02:02:55 AM
Did another roll because I am a stupid whale

Current list:
meimei
kirin
Meimei
meimei

so now like I should totally make

Meimei/meimei/meimei/Green Valk/Apocalypse/Meimei

we gon' mei all dei
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 02:02:59 AM
...I was expecting the title to be a bit more festive
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 02:03:47 AM
Did another roll because I am a stupid whale

Current list:
meimei
kirin
Meimei
meimei

so now like I should totally make

Meimei/meimei/meimei/Green Valk/Apocalypse/Meimei

we gon' mei all dei

yes

also still calling out suikama to be our third MOTK santa kirin do it nerd
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 18, 2014, 02:06:56 AM
[21:04:39] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> WHA
[21:04:39] <Chirei> one skillup yay
[21:04:42] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[21:04:46] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> AFTER ALL THIS TIME
[21:04:52] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> ECHIDNA IS NOW SL2
[21:04:57] <rdj522|Busy> !!!
[21:04:58] <Chirei> !!!!!!!!
[21:05:01] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> IT IS A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE
[21:05:02] <Chirei> time to farm more!!!
[21:05:08] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> DOZENS OF THOSE FUCKERS
[21:05:13] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> AND TODAY IS THE DAY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2014, 02:07:36 AM
You guys are makin' me wanna whale. But I only whale for Misato, and I got Misato.

Or maybe something else, I don't care.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 18, 2014, 02:07:52 AM
Cleared XMAS Dungeon on Blessed for my first time

>No Santa Hera drop
>~80% drop rate

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 02:09:24 AM
...I was expecting the title to be a bit more festive

you're not smoking enough weed dood
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2014, 02:22:38 AM
Cleared XMAS Dungeon on Blessed for my first time

>No Santa Hera drop
>~80% drop rate

:colonveeplusalpha:

That's all kay, I didn't get her to drop on anything except Superblessed either. I just assumed Blessed had a 40% rate so I didn't think anything of it. Weird.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 02:26:08 AM
Hmm I guess I can run legit Kirin now with Chibi Kirin + An actual friend Kirin as opposed to an Isis/Kirin hybrid that doesn't really work at all
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 18, 2014, 02:28:52 AM
LOL! This game is fun already ROFG XD
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 02:33:08 AM
Hmm I guess I can run legit Kirin now with Chibi Kirin + An actual friend Kirin as opposed to an Isis/Kirin hybrid that doesn't really work at all

or you could run with santa kirin

imagine it suikama, the dreams
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: triangles on December 18, 2014, 02:51:02 AM

>No Santa Hera drop
>~80% drop rate

:colonveeplusalpha:

Me too bb :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 18, 2014, 03:04:46 AM
That's all kay, I didn't get her to drop on anything except Superblessed either. I just assumed Blessed had a 40% rate so I didn't think anything of it. Weird.

Me too bb :(

i got 2 santa hera from Master out of 10 runs on Master

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 18, 2014, 03:07:16 AM
I gave in and bought 12 stones; I don't buy myself very many things lately so I figured why not.

1) sakuya
2) Meimei
3) lilith

I guess the dupe Meimei will be going wood/dark, lilith might work well on a Beelzebub team with her prongs, and sakuya...maybe the beginning of a team for running Xuanzang?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Yukarin on December 18, 2014, 03:33:53 AM
man i was *this* close to killing off hera

i got two tpa procs for light but i wasn't able to match red in time that could have killed her man that sucks

;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 03:39:36 AM
man i was *this* close to killing off hera

i got two tpa procs for light but i wasn't able to match red in time that could have killed her man that sucks

;-;

bad end, you were added to her bag of presents
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 03:43:22 AM
alright since everything is this rem is cute i'll pull until a dupe
chibi karin
chibi haku
chibi kirin

dammit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Yukarin on December 18, 2014, 03:47:50 AM
bad end, you were added to her bag of presents

my next try and ill bag her for my presents
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on December 18, 2014, 04:02:43 AM
alright since everything is this rem is cute i'll pull until a dupe
chibi karin
chibi haku
chibi kirin

dammit

Just keep pulling until ronia, you have like 100 stones :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 18, 2014, 04:05:43 AM
Just keep pulling until ronia, you have like 100 stones :V

I even bought more stones and I'm just drowning in china ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on December 18, 2014, 04:13:38 AM
Pulled twice.

-Water Wizard
-Fire Wizard.

Bleh.  No idea what to do with these even though they're supposed to still be good.  Was weakened by reminder of future stones from eventttttttttt, did one more pull.

-Chibi-Meimei

THERE we go!  Obviously not-chibi would have been better, but for now she'lll probably make a rather wonderful Athena sub.  Dragon Knight get out.

Wanted chibiValk because Valk utility plus triple TPA is silly, but this is definitely a good end.  ALMOST wanna pull again jjust to see what other interesting stuff might pop out, but I really ought to stop here even though I have 5 stones.

So much more good stuff in there though...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 18, 2014, 04:22:45 AM
Anyone whose practically starting. The christmas REM is the best way to pull their starter Chinese Gods.

Did two pulls
1. Chibi Haku
2. Chibi Meimei

It's like the game just wants me to have the chibi of the Gods I already have....

Still I like how the Chibi Chinese Gods are low-cost. Definitely great leaders/subs for low-cost dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on December 18, 2014, 04:29:39 AM
still waiting for cauchemar  :colbert:

Also managed to get Freyr, ECO Baby Tiny, and Zeta Hydra on various drops and/or REM rolls

Are any of the Christmas Dungeon/CREM drops of any good use?

and seriously i managed to get
WEE JAS AND DILL SIRIUS ON MY USELESS IPAD ACCOUNT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 05:01:49 AM
Christmas rem is a rem without golems. The problem is dupes are pretty common. I have for mini leilans
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 05:46:49 AM
Just keep pulling until ronia, you have like 100 stones :V

Like to add to this, dead serious, this is some good stuff in here and muse'll be here for a long time.

This stuff is back in a year, if ever
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on December 18, 2014, 09:15:45 AM
Seems like the chance to get one of the Holy Night Gods isn't high?

Is it worth to buy stones for it?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 18, 2014, 09:32:08 AM
Just encountered a Present Egg in my run on Master...... but of course i dropped the chimera on its left  :qq:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on December 18, 2014, 10:58:17 AM
Seems like the chance to get one of the Holy Night Gods isn't high?

Is it worth to buy stones for it?
There is no 'garbage' roll and ~15% for a chinese and 15% for a holy night are not bad rates. But I don't feel its a buy stones kind of thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
Apparently Gungho Collab might be occurring tomorrow... at the same time as ECO and the XMas Dungeon and Flammesickle. Why.

Just encountered a Present Egg in my run on Master...... but of course i dropped the chimera on its left  :qq:

Damn man.

At least there's 1.5x drop later today, so save some stamina for that?

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on December 18, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Apparently Gungho Collab might be occurring tomorrow... at the same time as ECO and the XMas Dungeon and Flammesickle. Why.

Damn man.

At least there's 1.5x drop later today, so save some stamina for that?

Is the Present Egg so rare on higher modes?
I got one this morning :V felt good looking into PDX seeing it give a lot of exp.

Maybe the game just tells me to keep playing? Noob bonus, you know?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 18, 2014, 12:00:54 PM
Today's a good day.

(http://i61.tinypic.com/24d0nwy.png)
(Now I await for Lu Bu's ult evo.)

(http://i60.tinypic.com/s1nql1.png)
(This Hera is Red, and already has Awakenings)

As for Christmas REM. Planning to get some dupe Chibi Chinese Gods for when I need them in low-cost dungeons. :derp:
Is the Present Egg so rare on higher modes?
Edit: Didn't quite read that right.

Depends.. Pretty RNG.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 12:11:06 PM
Is the Present Egg so rare on higher modes?
I got one this morning :V felt good looking into PDX seeing it give a lot of exp.

Uh.

...Did you find it as a random encounter on Expert or what?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on December 18, 2014, 12:25:38 PM
Uh.

...Did you find it as a random encounter on Expert or what?

Random encounter on Int
:dealwithit:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 18, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
Random encounter on Int
:dealwithit:
RNG is a pain to deal with sometimes.

If it's exp you want. You'll be better off doing higher difficulties for evolved ones, that isn't light nor dark.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on December 18, 2014, 12:41:33 PM
RNG is a pain to deal with sometimes.

If it's exp you want. You'll be better off doing higher difficulties for evolved ones, that isn't light nor dark.

Still too difficult. And I only do it because it's fast to do, to waste some stamina during the morning.
I have total cost of 49, not many good Monsters with low cost and enemy oneshot me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 12:55:23 PM
Interesting that you got it on Int, because PDX doesn't even have them listed as encounters there - though people are reporting that they've seen them too so for some reason PDX fucked it up again.

Still, good to know they're obtainable on all levels!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2014, 01:34:39 PM
Damn man.

At least there's 1.5x drop later today, so save some stamina for that?

I've seen one Present Egg so far, on Superblessed. I don't know what dropped from that floor (maybe nothing?) but it wasn't that.

Is the Present Egg so rare on higher modes?

Yes. They seem to be crazyballs rare on all difficulties.

I got one this morning :V felt good looking into PDX seeing it give a lot of exp.

Maybe the game just tells me to keep playing? Noob bonus, you know?

Ha ha neat.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 18, 2014, 03:08:20 PM
Wave 4 of balance announced:

-Ult Hera-Is and Ult Hera-Ur min cds reduced to 12.
-All "enhanced ___ orbs" abilities now have a min cd of 4 (I CAN'T EVEN GET HORUS TO SKILL LEVEL 3 GUNGHO)
-Morning Star will now spawn 3 heart orbs upon usage - world's end will spawn 3 dark orbs instead.
-Curses of Fire/Ice/Wood both their normal cds and their min cds reduced by 3 turns, but lost 1 turn of counter damage to compensate. The same applies to Curse of Light/Dark, but their cds got reduced by 2 instead.
-Sticker girls min cd reduced by 2 turns.
-Archangel's heal will now heals 2 turns of binds instead of 1.
- Urd, Verdandi and Skuld will now get up to a 3.3x multiplier depending on their HP.
- Vishnu now gets x2.5 atk upon matching a set of green, still gets 3.5x when matching two sets of green.
- Un-evolved Shield Knights (AKA Shieldras) will now also skillup the fruit dragons.
- Twinlit uvos of Alraune/Vamp/Archangel/Lilith got a skill-lock resist.
- Golem Uvos got one enhanced orbs of their respective colors.
- Trifruit uvos for the Late Bloomer series got a TPA
- Dragon Knights are now bind-immune.

Also, this thing (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1220) now spawns 1 light orb upon using his active, has an attacker subtype and got +400atk.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2014, 03:36:11 PM
Sticker buff? Amazing, but this means I need more Ruka skillups, right? Angry Birds Epic back right now, I demand it.

And where are poor Siren's buffs? She is getting so thoroughly stomped by Ruka at this point it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 03:43:23 PM
the hera's min cd was already 12 :V it's now 10 though

also for some reason light and dark counter got shafted a bit by only getting 8 turns while the others got 7?

dat vishnu buff wow his damage is super reliable compared to the others now

shieldras dont need to evolve is fair because they're stupid hard to get already

so farmable stuff that needs rare evo mats have more awakenings

meanwhile egypt 1.0 needs rare evo mats, gets no new awakenings, and still has really random outdated stuff taking up awakening slots. like what other rem series has damage resistance awakenings? It's literally just egypt 1.0 and some of the awoken monsters who are stacked with awakenings anyways

also udon for god tier
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 18, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Dang, anyone have tips for S-ranking Christmas dungeon?

I'm using Ronia - Dancing Hera-Ur - D/L Lilith - Baddie - DQ Hera - Ronia and it seems to be quite reliable (even if i had to burn a ronia against 3 synced dublit right before stage 6 AND got the Blue one i managed to 0-stone it, and against Hera you are almost immortal), but i got only B rank  :V

I'm almost tempted to change DQ Hera with something low like High Dark Ninja, but the main problem is balancing stall/turn used....


EDIT: Lol, i should have known, someone posted an S-rank build and guess what? Odin/Odin or Odin/Ama, WHAT A SURPRISE!  ::)  now i just have to check if i have something that can be used as sub....

EDIT: crap, subs are a problem.... or better yet, effing Treants are the problem >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 18, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
Wave 4 of balance announced:

-Ult Hera-Is and Ult Hera-Ur min cds reduced to 12.
-All "enhanced ___ orbs" abilities now have a min cd of 4 (I CAN'T EVEN GET HORUS TO SKILL LEVEL 3 GUNGHO)
-Morning Star will now spawn 3 heart orbs upon usage - world's end will spawn 3 dark orbs instead.
-Curses of Fire/Ice/Wood both their normal cds and their min cds reduced by 3 turns, but lost 1 turn of counter damage to compensate. The same applies to Curse of Light/Dark, but their cds got reduced by 2 instead.
-Sticker girls min cd reduced by 2 turns.
-Archangel's heal will now heals 2 turns of binds instead of 1.
- Urd, Verdandi and Skuld will now get up to a 3.3x multiplier depending on their HP.
- Vishnu now gets x2.5 atk upon matching a set of green, still gets 3.5x when matching two sets of green.
- Un-evolved Shield Knights (AKA Shieldras) will now also skillup the fruit dragons.
- Twinlit uvos of Alraune/Vamp/Archangel/Lilith got a skill-lock resist.
- Golem Uvos got one enhanced orbs of their respective colors.
- Trifruit uvos for the Late Bloomer series got a TPA
- Dragon Knights are now bind-immune.

Also, this thing (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1220) now spawns 1 light orb upon using his active, has an attacker subtype and got +400atk.
So much update, so much wow.

They're making some useless monsters, atleast useful.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 06:30:35 PM
lol i started a coin dungeon and then put down my phone and forgot about it so there's 1 million coins for nothing :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on December 18, 2014, 06:39:17 PM
Christmas REM roll #3: lil' yomi o/

Edit: Oh boy this also solves my dilemma re: venus' inevitable awoken ult which will probably change her active.  Now I just have 3 days to farm skillup mats! :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
Christmas REM roll #3: lil' yomi o/

Edit: Oh boy this also solves my dilemma re: venus' inevitable awoken ult which will probably change her active.  Now I just have 3 days to farm skillup mats! :colonveeplusalpha:

paru paru

I think I'm gonna try and get my fourth today as well. Just need 2 stones.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 18, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
Sticker buff? Amazing, but this means I need more Ruka skillups, right? Angry Birds Epic back right now, I demand it.

And where are poor Siren's buffs? She is getting so thoroughly stomped by Ruka at this point it's ridiculous.

No, its min and max cd both reduced, it'll automatically be 7cd when the update comes.
Just as we were talking about how good Ruka is, she gets better.

Also, finally astaroth is more than just a awakening provider. 7cd is very usable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 07:41:12 PM
paru paru

I think I'm gonna try and get my fourth today as well. Just need 2 stones.
bluh i want to pull more but i hate getting dupes. it just feels like i wasted 5 stones for nothing
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Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 07:43:05 PM
Also, finally astaroth is more than just a awakening provider. 7cd is very usable.

Keep in mind that's basically '5cd' because of her awakenings.

Also assuming you leveled her up, 10cd with proper skill boost was already usable.

If belial actually had fucking NA skill ups, mind would be using his active much more.
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Post by: Thaws on December 18, 2014, 07:46:35 PM
Keep in mind that's basically '5cd' because of her awakenings.

Also assuming you leveled her up, 10cd with proper skill boost was already usable.

If belial actually had fucking NA skill ups, mind would be using his active much more.

Yea I had her skill levelling done last month finally.
Problem with 10cd is she's usually usable by boss, by which it'd be better to use Artemis (BT ver) anyways. Now she can be used for midbosses. She might even can be used twice in a longer dungeon.

Also pairs extremely well with Verdandi, I want one so badly ;-;
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
Dang, anyone have tips for S-ranking Christmas dungeon?

This one's stupid. I'm trying but I feel it's too RNG. I basically can't get too many pixies or i'll lose too much of the turn bonus since they have so much HP. Might be easier if someone could bring a maxskill breaker golem or something.
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Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 08:05:46 PM
Yea I had her skill levelling done last month finally.
Problem with 10cd is she's usually usable by boss, by which it'd be better to use Artemis (BT ver) anyways. Now she can be used for midbosses. She might even can be used twice in a longer dungeon.

Also pairs extremely well with Verdandi, I want one so badly ;-;

This is not precisely what I meant.

I meant more I have my belial at 2 cd if he was max skilled.

While the after-burn was garbage, it's already very possible to get them to short cooldowns just because of their huge boost to skill boost already.

The problem was their base is literally 10 cd away, which is not really solved and theres a lack of skillups for some of them (FUCKING BELIAL SKILLUPS WHERE).

The problem with their active was it's base and difficulty max skilling, not the actual length.

Edit: I mean just to show how silly short it can get, a belial on a Rodin team before buff would already be at 2 cd with just three cards (And you at 8 rows), meaning he's already a contributing part and you have plenty of space on your team to play around.

Mind that's rodin, who is a huge awakening stick. More realistically on Ronia, he would be at 4cd with just three cards.

How nifty! I can't see that not being up to max cooldown.

Oh but that's ronia.

On Shiva, with just three cards... 6cd, Rough, but doable still since you have much more room to work with in cards, and well valued.

This is just some mainstream leaders too, I'm sure you could find other combinations.
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Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
No, its min and max cd both reduced, it'll automatically be 7cd when the update comes.
Just as we were talking about how good Ruka is, she gets better.

Also, finally astaroth is more than just a awakening provider. 7cd is very usable.

Yaaaay Ruka for president.
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Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 08:59:22 PM
okay so a new event & gala starts tomorrow

the last few galas were green, red, light, and dark. we haven't seen a blue gala since october

however we also havent seen a special gala since the beginning of november

so what this means is maaaaybe tomorrow will be a special gala possibly with armored knights followed by a blue gala coinciding with the next godfest

gungho pls this is my real christmas wish
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Post by: Thaws on December 18, 2014, 09:05:16 PM
Edit: I mean just to show how silly short it can get, a belial on a Rodin team before buff would already be at 2 cd with just three cards (And you at 8 rows), meaning he's already a contributing part and you have plenty of space on your team to play around.

Mind that's rodin, who is a huge awakening stick. More realistically on Ronia, he would be at 4cd with just three cards.

How nifty! I can't see that not being up to max cooldown.

Oh but that's ronia.

On Shiva, with just three cards... 6cd, Rough, but doable still since you have much more room to work with in cards, and well valued.

This is just some mainstream leaders too, I'm sure you could find other combinations.

;-; I struggle to even get 5sb on bastet teams... mainly because Bastet has no skill boost on herself. Avalon and Astaroth are good skill boost providers.

Yaaaay Ruka for president.
We welcome our new dolphin overlords.
rip sirens



So there's been so many challenge dungeons and that free badpy giveaway from one livestream that I had 3 already without ever getting any from alt. dungeons, and max skilled my DMeta. :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 09:09:42 PM
So I now have a superblessed Athena build that lets me take a single hit from a dublit at full health. The problem now becomes those darn pixies with their pre-emptives and 2 timers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 09:18:40 PM
i keep getting around 50k on superblessed because dublits eat up so many turns
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 09:23:14 PM
I think the only way to reliably s-rank this is to have some fast def breaker and just swing really really hard so you don't have to worry about fucking your avg combo just to stay alive against the dubs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 09:24:11 PM
;-; I struggle to even get 5sb on bastet teams... mainly because Bastet has no skill boost on herself. Avalon and Astaroth are good skill boost providers.

Yeah, that'd be rather why.

Leaders awakenings are -extremely- important.

That's kind of an odd placement too, tbh...
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 09:55:09 PM
Should I merge my 4 leilans? I can't see a reason to keep more than one. Especially since I have a third big one.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 18, 2014, 09:56:13 PM
Should I merge my 4 leilans? I can't see a reason to keep more than one. Especially since I have a third big one.

Do you wanna skill one of them up? If so then put them all on level 99 first for the guaranteed skillup.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 10:01:52 PM
Oh wow I didn't realize they were only 1.7 million. (Serious) That's cheap for guaranteed skill ups
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 18, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
Oh wow I didn't realize they were only 1.7 million. (Serious) That's cheap for guaranteed skill ups

I thought they had to have ults first.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 10:13:55 PM
It seems that way. =/
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Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 10:17:17 PM
Oh wow I didn't realize they were only 1.7 million. (Serious) That's cheap for guaranteed skill ups
wait you have 4 leilans? 4 chibi leilans? or 4 chibi + normal leilans :V
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 10:19:02 PM
4 chibi and 3 big. I could make a leilan team easy
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Post by: triangles on December 18, 2014, 10:28:43 PM
Make a team with them and take a screenshot so I can send to my husband first plz.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 18, 2014, 10:34:32 PM
Do the guaranteed skillups work like that?  Thought that only worked on ult'd monsters.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 10:35:33 PM
Album link
http://imgur.com/a/ZqbF3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 10:43:49 PM
Should I merge my 4 leilans? I can't see a reason to keep more than one. Especially since I have a third big one.

You can probably merge the 4 chibis unless you were going to try some ridiculous fire enhance stacking strats.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
fuse chibis for awakenings

wait for gungho to buff +orbs to broken levels

profit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 18, 2014, 11:19:53 PM
fuse chibis for awakenings

wait for gungho to buff +orbs to broken levels

profit

5% atm.... 3rd buff inc?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 11:53:37 PM
if the rumored "double +orbs" ever happen :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2014, 12:14:32 AM
11 baby Tamadra feeds in a row. Zero awakenings.

Yup.

Edit:
Alright, so here are my Tamadra Village numbers. These might not be 100% accurate because I was going really fast in the last few minutes trying to cram in runs.

Cost:
1,000,000 gold
8 stones
990 stamina
192 stamina wasted when I refilled (wish I had overflow stamina...)

Spoils:
40 baby Tamadras
3 adults Tamadras from invades
2 adult Tamadras from enemy waves
2 adult Tamadras from the boss floor
3 red Tamadras
5 green Tamadras

Results:
10 awakenings from 40 feeds. 40 motherfucking feeds. That's nearly as poor of a rate as skillups.

Ugh.

So I got Meimei fully awoken, Athena finished, and Zhuge finished after using one of my seven adults. That means I have three left to do Verche once he gets evolved, two for blue Valkyrie's new awakenings, and one for white Valkyrie's new awakenings. I came in one under my overall goal, which is pretty bad for eight stones. On the other hand, that's not even two Dark Golems I don't want from the REM, so... Good, I guess? I'm more disappointed about the waste of gold, really, since that's 20 runs of Water Dragons Knight I won't get. If Sun Quan doesn't get skillmaxed I'm going to be super ultrasad, and it will likely be this ill-fated run's fault.

Edit edit:

What the fuck is up with the descends for this event? Why has Athena's dungeon been banished from PAD forever, why did we have to have Hercules two events in a row, and why is Hercules the only dungeon dropping blue orbs again? At least the green orb is in Thoth And Sopdet, which for my money is among the easiest descends on Mythical, but seriously, blue in Hercules again? Aaaaaaaah. Gift orbs please. Just gimme Karin orb.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 19, 2014, 12:57:47 AM
I'm more disappointed about the waste of gold, really, since that's 20 runs of Water Dragons Knight I won't get. If Sun Quan doesn't get skillmaxed I'm going to be super ultrasad, and it will likely be this ill-fated run's fault.


2x coins again, just prep up for the weekend and give it another shot. You'll get there.
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Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2014, 01:07:21 AM
2x coins again, just prep up for the weekend and give it another shot. You'll get there.

Unfortunately Sunday has an orb I want in an easy dungeon, so I'll have to decide which is more important right now again. I should probably do the coins honestly, but if I do and Dragon Knights don't show up on the next coin dungeon rotation again I'll be peeved. Still, white Valkyrie isn't actually that important to me right now, so she can theoretically wait forever and Sun Quan can't.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 19, 2014, 01:57:00 AM
Unfortunately Sunday has an orb I want in an easy dungeon, so I'll have to decide which is more important right now again. I should probably do the coins honestly, but if I do and Dragon Knights don't show up on the next coin dungeon rotation again I'll be peeved. Still, white Valkyrie isn't actually that important to me right now, so she can theoretically wait forever and Sun Quan can't.

I'd advise at least setting a rank-up loop if you can, and getting at least 10 million coins to set aside for Cleopatra. That's 20 hours of it you can put up. You should be able to get that much on Saturday, then the rest of sunday you can just farm.
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Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2014, 01:59:39 AM
I'd advise at least setting a rank-up loop if you can, and getting at least 10 million coins to set aside for Cleopatra. That's 20 hours of it you can put up. You should be able to get that much on Saturday, then the rest of sunday you can just farm.

How does a rank-up loop work? Alternate dungeons? If so I'm not sure how well I can handle them. I assume I can do it, but I've never tried and my team isn't the fastest thing ever. It'd be easier if my Athena team was done, and it's getting close, but it's not yet.
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Post by: Espadas on December 19, 2014, 02:08:47 AM
UUUUURRRGGGHHH...... finally S-ranked Christmas dungeon and max awoken Santa Hera! NEVER AGAIN!

Had to waste one stone when i got 3 dublits for 2 consecutive stages and took almost 2 freaking hours but it's finally over....
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 19, 2014, 02:11:12 AM
How does a rank-up loop work? Alternate dungeons? If so I'm not sure how well I can handle them. I assume I can do it, but I've never tried and my team isn't the fastest thing ever. It'd be easier if my Athena team was done, and it's getting close, but it's not yet.

A rank-up loop is when you purposely get your exp bar almost full, and then wait for enough stamina to run a desired dungeon x times, with the last time being enough or more than enough to rank you up, artificially giving you more tries than normal. I'm sure you've done this a few times without realizing it was that.
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Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2014, 02:19:24 AM
A rank-up loop is when you purposely get your exp bar almost full, and then wait for enough stamina to run a desired dungeon x times, with the last time being enough or more than enough to rank you up, artificially giving you more tries than normal. I'm sure you've done this a few times without realizing it was that.

Oh, right. I wouldn't have called that a loop since it doesn't go on endlessly, but I get what you mean. Yes, I do that all the time.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 19, 2014, 02:24:12 AM
Oh, right. I wouldn't have called that a loop since it doesn't go on endlessly, but I get what you mean. Yes, I do that all the time.

If you tie a loop in a piece of string it does not go on endlessly, it just now has a loop in it :V

Also my alt dungeon loops aren't "endless" either - you can only bang out so many runs before time runs out, which leads to me being paranoid about efficiency and speed and yyyeah you probably don't want to go down this way because there is only madness here.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2014, 02:42:04 AM
If you tie a loop in a piece of string it does not go on endlessly, it just now has a loop in it :V

Also my alt dungeon loops aren't "endless" either - you can only bang out so many runs before time runs out, which leads to me being paranoid about efficiency and speed and yyyeah you probably don't want to go down this way because there is only madness here.

We're getting a little conceptual here, but from the inside at least the loop in the string is endless, since you've tied off the end. But I think I was thinking of loops in fighting games and not even doing that right, because loops in fighting games aren't infinites.  :V

I am just having no luck today. Horrendous Tamadra Village results, zero out of seven skillup attempts since the surprise skillup boost, and zero out of dozens and dozens and dozens of green demon masks have dropped. That's all kay though, just building up that karma. Building it up for... Something.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 19, 2014, 03:51:42 AM
I did a few rolls. Got chibi Karin, Santa Kirin, and chibi Kirin. Guess I didn't do too bad.
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Post by: Suikama on December 19, 2014, 04:05:48 AM
man there is no way santa kirin is as rare as wetatron
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Post by: Invisible on December 19, 2014, 04:10:01 AM
man there is no way santa kirin is as rare as wetatron
She only has to compete against 20 monsters, with 8 of them x4 rates.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 19, 2014, 04:13:46 AM
I did a few rolls. Got chibi Karin, Santa Kirin, and chibi Kirin. Guess I didn't do too bad.

You have the best luck on special REMs man.
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Post by: Yukarin on December 19, 2014, 07:47:53 AM
santa hera yaaaay
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 19, 2014, 10:42:59 AM
So everybody who was complaining about tamas, great job. Check PDX to see what y'all have unleashed with your complaining. (I'm looking at you cmd. cool and Matsy)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 19, 2014, 12:26:12 PM
So everybody who was complaining about tamas, great job. Check PDX to see what y'all have unleashed with your complaining. (I'm looking at you cmd. cool and Matsy)
I dunno why anyone would try to feed Baby Tamas. Srz, their evo mats aren't even hard to get. With the exception of Gold Dragons, which you have to wait for, but they practically drop at every floor.
If you have stones to spend for stamina refills, I'm sure you have stones for monster boxes where you could just farm evo mats and fill your boxes with it.

I'm already overflowing with evo mats for Baby Tamas right now, even my Gold Dragons has filled 70+ spaces already, and a shit-ton of Dragon Fruits from farming at Tower to the Sky x1.5, Thursday Dungeon, and Evo rushes. Why I have a lot? 'Cause I already evo'd all of my monsters that needs to be evo'ing with the Dragon Fruit.

As for me trying to awaken monsters. I don't necessarily awaken all of my monsters with Tamadras. Rather, easy farmable monsters, I awaken them with themselves. Eg. Mystic Knights.

You might think it's time consuming, but it's really not. If you already have max most of your main monsters, you probably have other monsters that aren't even leveled yet. There are days when you don't want to do some Special Dungeon, or can't. Instead, the only thing you can do to optimize your stamina is to farm at a Normal Tier 5 - 6 Dungeon that has x1.5 rate. So, you farm for: evo mats, monster fodder, +eggs*, and Rank Exp. Practically you're hitting four* birds with one stone. Assuming you've already maxed your main monsters, all those fodder monsters has to go somewhere, which is to your latter monsters. It'd be a waste not feeding them. You don't need to consume time on just one monster at a time, when you can just level them up with the corresponding dungeon that has x1.5 that day, and do another one that has a x1.5 the next day, and cycle.

I've saved a lot of Tamadras with this, and I haven't even used a lot of the free Tamadras you get from events. Most of them are sitting in my mailbox, unopened. With the oldest from 104 days ago.
(http://i61.tinypic.com/317i81e.png)

I only use Tamadras on non-farmable monsters, like REM monsters, or high-exp max monsters like the Two Heroes, Cu Chu and Seig, farmable Gods, etc.
I already max awoken all my Ripper Dragons, and Mystic Knights, except Kamui, which is really hard to get, since he has no solo dungeon. 2/3 Awoken.

Ofc this works efficiently for Non-IAPs like me, or IAPs who don't like to spend much money.
If there's people who don't wanna get into this much trouble, then spend away. 50% chance of awakening is still low though.

What I would like is an easier way to get +eggs. Heck, even buy them if I'd want. Can't believe it took me 130+ days to hypermax Lu Bu(180+ days since I started playing, only at 50+ days I started feeding him +eggs).

Edited: * - added word(s)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 19, 2014, 01:13:24 PM
You essentially 'buy' +eggs by stoning Star Vault and x5 Door of Light and Shadow when those events roll along

There's also a Star Vault coin dungeon coming which you're really going to need to 'buy' since it costs 30 MILLION coins :V :colonveeplusalpha:

On normal days you run T5s and King of Gods over and over. It's boring as hell but it's the best way to get +eggs over time
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Post by: Invisible on December 19, 2014, 01:15:53 PM
You essentially 'buy' +eggs by stoning Star Vault and x5 Door of Light and Shadow when those events roll along

There's also a Star Vault coin dungeon coming which you're really going to need to 'buy' since it costs 30 MILLION coins :V :colonveeplusalpha:

On normal days you run T5s and King of Gods over and over. It's boring as hell but it's the best way to get +eggs over time
Yea I read some JP dude who got 3600+ eggs(I think), just by running T5s and T6s. Although I also read he skipped a lot of skill up dungeons chances, and mostly just used a Zeus team. Which is hella boring. Lol.

I edited my previous post. I forgot you get a lot of +eggs in T5, esp OoH. Basically, it's a 4-in-1 package.
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Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2014, 01:41:21 PM
So everybody who was complaining about tamas, great job. Check PDX to see what y'all have unleashed with your complaining. (I'm looking at you cmd. cool and Matsy)

Yaaay! Squeaky wheel! Squeaky wheel!

I dunno why anyone would try to feed Baby Tamas. Srz, their evo mats aren't even hard to get. With the exception of Gold Dragons, which you have to wait for, but they practically drop at every floor.
If you have stones to spend for stamina refills, I'm sure you have stones for monster boxes where you could just farm evo mats and fill your boxes with it.

I don't know where I stand on this really. Ordinarily I sort of agree with you, but the Tamadra Village/Baby Tamadra thing yesterday was an experiment, and not a particularly conclusive one. I strongly disagree that the materials are easy to get though. Where on Earth are you getting surplus Topalits? Even without baby Tamadra concerns I'm four short, and I spent a moderate amount of time hunting for them. They are notoriously not easy to get, especially in multiples.

You might think it's time consuming, but it's really not. If you already have max most of your main monsters, you probably have other monsters that aren't even leveled yet. There are days when you don't want to do some Special Dungeon, or can't. Instead, the only thing you can do to optimize your stamina is to farm at a Normal Tier 5 - 6 Dungeon that has x1.5 rate. So, you farm for: evo mats, monster fodder, +eggs*, and Rank Exp. Practically you're hitting four* birds with one stone. Assuming you've already maxed your main monsters, all those fodder monsters has to go somewhere, which is to your latter monsters. It'd be a waste not feeding them. You don't need to consume time on just one monster at a time, when you can just level them up with the corresponding dungeon that has x1.5 that day, and do another one that has a x1.5 the next day, and cycle.

There was a time in the game when I sort of did that, and it sort of worked. But at this point it's extremely rare that I have a day when I'm not doing something, and when I do I'm pretty much obligated to do Legendary Seaway futiley trying to skill up Beyzul. I've maybe done two runs of Jupiter, City In The Sky in the last month trying to burn off stamina or rank up or something. If you have a tight schedule anyway it's extraordinarily time consuming.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 19, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
You can get a shitload of topalits from the current Christmas dungeon :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2014, 01:56:33 PM
You can get a shitload of topalits from the current Christmas dungeon :V

I've been running the Christmas dungeon pretty consistently since it went up and I've dropped two of them. I haven't been dropping very many 'Lits of any kind actually, mostly just Pengdras. Since it only has five floors where they can drop for 40-50 stamina and a non-100% droprate even on Superblessed, and an average-or-better spread of different monsters that can appear the droprates on them don't seem amazing. Certainly better than just about anywhere else, but nowhere near enough to even crack the 18 Awakenings I was hoping to take care of going into Tamadra Village.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 19, 2014, 02:18:00 PM
Where on Earth are you getting surplus Topalits? Even without baby Tamadra concerns I'm four short, and I spent a moderate amount of time hunting for them. They are notoriously not easy to get, especially in multiples.
Like I said, you're farming also for evo mats. T6 Light dungeon. I dunno if it's you, but I certainly get a lot of them. They drop most of the time if they ever appear. I only run T6 whenever I need King Gold Dragons, as opposed to King Metal Dragons. Since King Gold is rarer, and I mostly need more now, I usually do T6. If I want rank up rush, or King Metal Dragons, I do T5. The evo mats are practically extra.

I only ever farm evo mats in their respective dungeons, if I'm in a rush to evo something. In my current case, I don't have any monsters that I'm particularly rushing, since I'm just leveling up most of them to max first, which along the way, I get some evo mats.

The only evo mats I actually ever farm in their respective dungeons is the lower evo mats. Eg, lits, dragon seeds, plants, masks, etc. And ofc Keepers, since that's the only weekly dungeon that has them.

Maybe the reason why I have a ton of evo mats is because I already evo'd most of my monsters. The only monsters left are the ones I'm gonna use as awakening fodders for my main monsters. Eg. some of the Healer Girls.
There was a time in the game when I sort of did that, and it sort of worked. But at this point it's extremely rare that I have a day when I'm not doing something, and when I do I'm pretty much obligated to do Legendary Seaway futiley trying to skill up Beyzul. I've maybe done two runs of Jupiter, City In The Sky in the last month trying to burn off stamina or rank up or something. If you have a tight schedule anyway it's extraordinarily time consuming.
Well I could agree with you on this one. Ever since the whole 1 stamina per 5 mins update, I'm often seeing myself having full stamina bars. Which most of the time, has been filled up by mins or hours ago. It's not that I can't calculate when's the stamina's gonna get full.  And I'm not saying to have them bring back ol' 1 sta/10 mins, I like the new one, thank you very much. It's just that at some times I tend to get busy doing stuff, that I can't actually play. Which means, I couldn't optimize my stamina very well. Back then I was able to optimize it better.

Sometimes before I do something which will occupy me hours to do, I just do a dungeon(mostly a special dungeon that hasn't been stoned yet) that has high sta. cost, just so I wouldn't waste stamina. Even if I want to farm, usually it takes 3-5 mins to finish a farmable dungeon. And assuming you have a lot of stamina, doing a low-stamina cost dungeon, and with the new 1 sta/5 min, it'll take a lot of runs so you could atleast optimize your stamina, just before you'd do something important, so while doing that, your stamina bar refills. Which is srz, hectic.

Edit: Typo :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 19, 2014, 02:18:28 PM
*try to sneak away unnoticed along with his 4 out of 6 awakening using baby tamadra.....*  :derp:

Rolled for the first time the Christmas Rem = chibi Kirin

not sure where i could use her but still cute (if i ever drop regular Meimei or Haku - welp, Leilan too but she is lower in priority - i'm gonna bounce off the walls like a madman  :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 19, 2014, 02:22:31 PM
I thought they had to have ults first.

You sure? I thought it was just "last currently available form" instead of "ultimate".

'Course, I never actually tried it so :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 19, 2014, 02:32:08 PM
nope it HAS to be an ultimate
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 19, 2014, 03:19:09 PM
You sure? I thought it was just "last currently available form" instead of "ultimate".

'Course, I never actually tried it so :derp:
(http://i.imgur.com/xvtK5Gj.png)

Should I merge my 4 leilans? I can't see a reason to keep more than one. Especially since I have a third big one.
If I were you, I'd keep the dupe chibis for low-cost subs. I mean, they're probably the few low-cost monsters that can full-board orb change.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2014, 04:11:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xvtK5Gj.png)
If I were you, I'd keep the dupe chibis for low-cost subs. I mean, they're probably the few low-cost monsters that can full-board orb change.

Don't people often use spirit orbs and trifruits for precisely that on low-cost teams? The stats are much worse obviously, but the cost is even lower.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 19, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/IkQ7wUCl.png) (http://imgur.com/IkQ7wUC)

Finally. Failed once on the penguins, once on the fairy, then finally no stoned this and got the ship girl.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 19, 2014, 05:14:01 PM
Don't people often use spirit orbs and trifruits for precisely that on low-cost teams? The stats are much worse obviously, but the cost is even lower.
Yea..still, better stats. :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 19, 2014, 05:38:24 PM
Christmas Yoloroll = Minihaku

Meh, wanted a valk to replace the valk I already have in my healer team but I guessy ou take what you can get :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 19, 2014, 06:19:08 PM
shit it's blue gala now RIP the dream
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 19, 2014, 06:42:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZJke8jol.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ZJke8jo.jpg)

heck yeah  8)

EDIT: Just so it's out there, I'm pretty sure the dungeon was unusually lenient on that run:

Wave 1: dublit + chimera
Wave 2: three pengdra, two synced; not lethal but killed one of the synced ones first because yes
Wave 3: dublit + chimera + pengdra, all unsynced
Wave 4: pixie + two synced pengdra; popped Cleopatra and stalled for her again
Wave 5: three pengdra, two synced

The rest was simple. Did have enough HP to tank one treant hit if needed, but it didn't come up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 19, 2014, 08:14:23 PM
You might think it's time consuming, but it's really not. If you already have max most of your main monsters, you probably have other monsters that aren't even leveled yet. There are days when you don't want to do some Special Dungeon, or can't. Instead, the only thing you can do to optimize your stamina is to farm at a Normal Tier 5 - 6 Dungeon that has x1.5 rate.

This is extremely subjective, and I would know because I did use to do this  for a month of two, and even now I think it's extremely time consuming compared to other things I could be doing with my stamina. (Collecting stones for Verdandi, Py hunting, Present Egg hunting, Skillup hunting) I don't have five slots to waste per baby, because those slots are needed for other things (I actually try to keep 30+ open at all times for alt dungeon looping, it's pretty much required for max efficiency.)

I myself have two tamas in reserve, but there's also the consideration that some of us run multiple teams (I think I have about 4 or so in progress? and I haven't spent a cent on this game) and with row/skillboost/tpa being vastly important, the teams are horribly less effective if there aren't enough tamas. It's just a really frustrating thing in general and requires you to be luckier than succeeding at the coinflip chance to awaken on the baby.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 19, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
I'd like to add to the baby tama discussion that you can really get RNG screwed on the topalit drops and it doesn't feel worth it.

With Friday dungeon master being slightly better than 1/3 drop, let's say 40%, you're using 62.5 stamina on average to get that topalit.  Then you have to run Thursday probably twice, so that's 20.  That's 82.5 stamina per baby tama, which is half of my bar and a little more than 1/4 of the daily amount.   This process can take months.

I think it's far better to just know you're going to blow as many stones as possible to run that tama village in the hour it's up.  Especially since you only need tamas occasionally but for many monsters their awakenings are the draws, so it's the quickest, most painless way to getting that new thing you need.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 19, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
i'm just gonna wait for stamina overflow :derp:

also remember when the only way to get tamadra was this :V (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=94)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 20, 2014, 02:01:45 AM
it's antonio time (http://www.twitch.tv/gunghoamerica)


gungho what the fuck (http://divine-gate.wikia.com/wiki/Hatsune_Miku_Collaboration_Event)

why is this not in pad WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME


antonio 0 stoned master so tamadra get for all

meanwhile I 0 stoned Legend BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 20, 2014, 03:36:59 AM
This is extremely subjective, and I would know because I did use to do this  for a month of two, and even now I think it's extremely time consuming compared to other things I could be doing with my stamina. (Collecting stones for Verdandi, Py hunting, Present Egg hunting, Skillup hunting) I don't have five slots to waste per baby, because those slots are needed for other things (I actually try to keep 30+ open at all times for alt dungeon looping, it's pretty much required for max efficiency.)

I myself have two tamas in reserve, but there's also the consideration that some of us run multiple teams (I think I have about 4 or so in progress? and I haven't spent a cent on this game) and with row/skillboost/tpa being vastly important, the teams are horribly less effective if there aren't enough tamas. It's just a really frustrating thing in general and requires you to be luckier than succeeding at the coinflip chance to awaken on the baby.
You're doing this not on a rush. You need to draw a fine line between, when you need it, and do you need it now?
The reason I was effectively awakening monsters with the "awaken a monster with the same monster", was 'cause I wasn't in a rush.
I'd like to add to the baby tama discussion that you can really get RNG screwed on the topalit drops and it doesn't feel worth it.

With Friday dungeon master being slightly better than 1/3 drop, let's say 40%, you're using 62.5 stamina on average to get that topalit.  Then you have to run Thursday probably twice, so that's 20.  That's 82.5 stamina per baby tama, which is half of my bar and a little more than 1/4 of the daily amount.   This process can take months.

I think it's far better to just know you're going to blow as many stones as possible to run that tama village in the hour it's up.  Especially since you only need tamas occasionally but for many monsters their awakenings are the draws, so it's the quickest, most painless way to getting that new thing you need.
I didn't say to run Friday Dungeon. And I didn't say to run the T6 dungeon on a rush.

The reason why this is effective is because you're "not rushing". You're stockpiling while ranking up.

You only do T5 - T6 when you don't/can't do special dungeons or no special dungeons that you want are available. I mean seriously, what else are you gonna do with your full stamina bar when you have nothing else to spend it on? Ofc, the normal T5 - T6 are the next best thing, which is to rank up. Sure you could do Starlight Sanctuary, but seriously compare it to the "extras" you'll be getting on T5 and lower T6 instead.
The evo mats are practically extra.
Why I have tons of evo mats 'cause:
1. Ever since I started playing, I never threw out/sell/waste evo mats I got from normal dungeons. I just stockpile them.
2. I always buy a lot of boxes, around twice more than my current rank.
3. Ever since I started farming rank exp on T5 and T6, I have stockpiled loads of evo mats, even though I have few monsters back then that needs evo'ing.
4. Thanks to the stockpiled evo mats, the latter monsters I got that needs evo'ing are easier to evo since I already have the materials.
5. Now that I already evo'd most of them, even the extras, I'm still accumulating evo mats whenever I decide to do T5 - T6 dungeons. Which is if I don't have any particular special dungeon to do that day.
6. To decide which Tier dungeon I'd go, I decide first which King Dragon I need more. King Metal Dragon or King Gold Dragon, in their respective tier. Currently, I usually go to Tier 6, since I need King Gold Dragon more.
6b. I also decide which, if there's a monster(s) that needs leveling to final evo(not ult)/evo with awakenings.
7. The only evo mats I farm on their respective weekly dungeons are the lower evo mats. Eg. Evo masks, Dragon Seeds/Plants, etc, and ofc Keepers.
8. I only ever farm a respective weekly dungeon for evo mats if I'm in a rush to evo something.
9. The only time I would ever throw/sell/feed evo mats is if exceeds 20-30 for an evo mat that's easy to get(eg. Divine Masks/Most of the Keepers/Seeds/Plants). Fruits, Mystic Mask, KoR, etc. I stockpile them.
10. In a level-up rush, the extra Dragon Fruits/KoRs/M.Masks/Dub-Mythlits comes in handy. Giving 7500/15000/15000/15000 on same-color respectively.

Ideally, back then during the 1 sta/10 min era, I was able to optimize this well.
Right now, this still works, but ofc, my stamina isn't as optimized as back then since I'm fairly busy. I usually find myself having full stamina after a few hours or so.

Edit: It's something I learned here. Which I improved a bit for stamina efficiency.
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=38670

Edit2:
Think about it this way. If you already have stockpiled evo mats for Baby Tamas even before you farmed for them. And did the Tama dungeon. Get a lot of Baby Tamas. Did the evo on Tama. Awoken a lot of your monsters. You're pretty much set for a long time. You won't have to think of doing Tama dungeon again, since you already awoken most of the monsters you want. Assuming you get an avg of 2-3 monsters per month that are suitable subs/leaders with awakenings. Again, there are times you'll be doing T5s-T6s since you can't do anything else.  Basically, you stockpile again. Do the Tama Dungeon when you are at the edge of your comfort zone, that feels there's monsters you have that needs awakenings. Evolved them, and feed. It's a cycle.

The name of the game is farming. Which is true for late-game. Ofc it'll take months. It isn't farming if it takes a little time to achieve.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 20, 2014, 03:49:47 AM
Omg I don't know how I pulled it off but I got my first Chinese God from the Christmas Machine.

Mini Sakuya get!  *fist pump*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 20, 2014, 03:56:34 AM
Finally finished Endless Corridors. Probably wouldn've been easier if I didn't bring a stall team, but I did because that's what I got. The Hera fight was a grind, and when I bursted Zeus I got a slightly sub-optimal combo that brought him down to like 10% health. I don't know for sure, but I think I just beat him by thousands of HP. Would have been a lot less close if I had got into his floor with 50 more HP, but after I activated Beyzul I was a hair under full health so I had to waste one of my 2x attack Sun Quan bonus turns autohealing back up. It's nice to know that my burst does close to 5 million damage even under less-than-ideal conditions though. That's basically enough for anything.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 20, 2014, 04:03:47 AM
rip mr s

the devils were too much for him and his stones


oh we're getting king devi tama though tomorrow


Hera-Is is coming... i need 3 water jewels for this <_<


also no mention of knights <___<
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 20, 2014, 04:20:48 AM
Some of your Tamadra problems are solved.
(http://i.imgur.com/zJHXo8n.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 20, 2014, 04:25:58 AM
it's this (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=1042)

i hope you like troll chibidras
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 20, 2014, 04:29:12 AM
chibi leilan
chibi karin
chibi kirin

fucking christmas rem
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 20, 2014, 04:30:06 AM
it's this (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=1042)

i hope you like troll chibidras
22500 exp isn't bad. :derp:

And I think we get 4k Pal Pts, 1 Magic Stone and a Tamadra from the stream.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 20, 2014, 04:30:47 AM
fuck it again

chibi meimei

...i have all of them i guess

(http://i.imgur.com/3ly3aeR.png)

merry christmas >___>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 20, 2014, 04:36:04 AM
22500 exp isn't bad. :derp:

Yes it is, when you can get 30000 exp pengdras from the christmas dungeon for less stamina :V

Quote
And I think we get 4k Pal Pts, 1 Magic Stone and a Tamadra from the stream.

Yep.

And in addition:
We'll be getting a King DeviTAMA in our inboxes at some point
Gungho Collab revamp incoming
Tamadra Guerilla starting tomorrow
Hera-Is ult Coming Soon (TM)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 20, 2014, 06:37:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/6KbijhN.png)
Maintenance bois. Spend your stamina wisely before this happens~
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 20, 2014, 06:55:47 AM
also make sure to get your present eggs if for some reason you havent at this point
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 20, 2014, 07:23:56 AM
Quote
On my twelfth pack of stones, CREM gave to me:
12 fire wizards
11 freaking kirins
10 stupid genies
9 baby lucis
8 more dupe Hakus
7 Leilan waifus
6 tsukuyomis
5 troll gold eggs
4 genbus
3 karins
2 metatrons
And a shit ton of useless chibiiiiiiiiss

c/o facebook
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Post by: Invisible on December 20, 2014, 08:10:53 AM
c/o facebook
And still no Santa Kirin. D:

You know what's sad about x4 rates in REMs. You can't feel them. But you do feel the x1 Introductory Rates. Basically... x1 > x4.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 20, 2014, 09:58:21 AM
1-stoned Heracles Mythical

Dropped Cerberus and KARIN INVADED!  :toot:
Why i had to burn 1 stone? Because Karin invaded in stage 2, and i had no way to recover enough hp to survive Gigas's preemptive. Basically she invaded in the ONLY stage which would have killed me  :trollface:

EDIT: lol cleared Guan Yinping Master with a team of healer waifus i literally tossed together  :V  Too bad it didn't drop, and i can't even attempt Legend.... gotta level up Goemon for next time  :derp:

EDIT2: 100 days bonus, superb timing! Combined with the stones i racked up last night gives me 3 more rolls in the Xmas REM:

mini Haku  "so cute, but i want the regular one...."
Water Wizard, Sharon  "you bast@rd, baiting me with the gold egg.... oh well, she is still good so i'm ok with this"
regular Haku  "HELL YEAAHHH!!!"  :*


gotta remember Yukarin's comment here after my awesome rolls in the last godfest
Quote
now proceed to not get anything on the next godfest because all your luck was spent on this GF

at this rate the rem machine will glitch and give me carbuncles  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 20, 2014, 02:06:24 PM
Every update has me worried it'll be Maximum Valkyries and I won't be readyyyyyy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dr Rawr on December 20, 2014, 05:47:53 PM
Played with a friends sakuya for the first time today. Found her leader skill really easy to activate.

Also rolled again on Christmas rem and got a mini valk
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 20, 2014, 07:41:39 PM
My phone is even more broken. The on/off button just doesn't work any more. Whyyyy do you do this to me phone? So I can still turn it on by plugging it into a charger. I can still PAD, but it's more of a hassle.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 20, 2014, 07:42:22 PM
I've spent way too much trying to get Christmas Valk. Every one who gets that is so motherfucking lucky.

I decided I'd settle on Christmas Lilith, I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 20, 2014, 08:12:11 PM
I've spent way too much trying to get Christmas Valk. Every one who gets that is so motherfucking lucky.

I decided I'd settle on Christmas Lilith, I guess.

I will literally settle for "anything not China" at this point I think. :V (Ideal is Valk/Ronia/LMeta/maybe Lilith because then I can have both ults without raising a second one and even without using twinlits)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 20, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
I will literally settle for "anything not China" at this point I think. :V (Ideal is Valk/Ronia/LMeta/maybe Lilith because then I can have both ults without raising a second one and even without using twinlits)

Funny thing is i'm the complete opposite, i'm rolling in the Xmas Rem exactly because i want the regular Chinese girls, and i'll never get better odds than 4x with the added bonus of getting something good either way.

I only miss Leilan and Meimei (seems like everyone and their grandma here got Meimei bar me  :qq:) but i surely wouldn't mind Santa Sakuya or even Santa Genie
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 20, 2014, 10:47:32 PM
Still not on the Meimei club either. :c

But she doesn't fit on any of my teams so :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2014, 03:23:06 AM
14 baby tamas from 5 runs of tamadra retreat. got super unlucky with no actual tama drops on the last floor though >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 21, 2014, 11:23:06 AM
Funny thing is i'm the complete opposite, i'm rolling in the Xmas Rem exactly because i want the regular Chinese girls, and i'll never get better odds than 4x with the added bonus of getting something good either way.

I only miss Leilan and Meimei (seems like everyone and their grandma here got Meimei bar me  :qq:) but i surely wouldn't mind Santa Sakuya or even Santa Genie

*waves her double mini haku rolls*

No Meimei here buddy

EDIT: Sasuke doing TEC with a Santa Kirin PT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zam5mEYxHg) (Subs: 2x LKali, Chibi Valk, LZL, HP:30200~)
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Post by: Edible on December 21, 2014, 02:07:10 PM
Lil' Yomi max skilled.  Hooray!

I can now attempt to beat yinping legend.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 21, 2014, 02:16:49 PM
Christmas REM just keeps giving me the Chibi Gods I already have of their Original ones...srz. staph.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: triangles on December 21, 2014, 02:20:08 PM
Christmas REM gave me chibivalk and chibisuzaku I have zero complaints.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 21, 2014, 03:09:18 PM
Christmas REM gave me chibivalk and chibisuzaku I have zero complaints.
Not when you don't receive dupes for like 5x.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2014, 04:05:43 PM
bluh Thoth and Sopdet 1 stoned because I made a dumb mistake. Only did a 2 combo when I had a full board of hearts. Could of easily been a 0 stone.

To add insult to injury i got another thoth drop -_-
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
Got my green orb on the second try today. Excellent. I like Thoth and Sopdet and I think it's one of the more fun and interesting dungeons in the game, but farming it is reeeally time-consuming. Back to weekend dungeon!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 21, 2014, 04:52:42 PM
I have a stupid lapsus in memory: does jewel invade happen only on mythical difficult?

On an unrelated note, i really, REALLY hate certain evo materials.... looking at my padherder: 0/58 Dub-Mythlit, 0/49 Dragon Fruit, 0/30 Mystic Mask, 4/26 Mythlit  :colonveeplusalpha:

At this rate i'll be forced to use the entire upcoming week to farm their respective week dungeons, since they refuse to drop from normal dungeons even during 1.5%....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
I have a stupid lapsus in memory: does jewel invade happen only on mythical difficult?
No, but the invade rate on Legend is basically 0% its just awful
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2014, 09:24:17 PM
I was just tooling around with my Athena team (Athena/Valkyrie/Verche/Meimei/GZL/Athena) in True Endless Corridors. It's nowhere near max level and Valkyrie isn't even ultimate evolved yet, but I wanted to try it just to see how a two-prong team plays differently than a stall team or a 9x spike team. I'm not really sure when I'm supposed to use my actives yet, and how many matches of what types I should be making. Does anyone have any advice on how to properly conserve and spend orbs on a two-prong team, especially an Athena one? Or any other general tips? Playing a team that's very different from the one I'm used to is fun, but I don't have much prior knowledge about what I should be doing here.

Edit: I also don't know how to use Seven Star. What am I supposed to do with it, exactly? Just try to set up as  many two-prong activations as possible? A few two-prongs and a row? I think a few minutes ago was literally the first time I've ever used a full-screen orbchange that wasn't just a reset, so I don't know the principle behind it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 21, 2014, 09:43:06 PM
As far as I understand it, when you're using full board changes you want to just deal as much damage as possible in that scenario, since your team is basically Two-prongs galore, unless you're dealing with 3 enemies that are really bulky (which I don't think ever actually happens) you should just focus on doing as many two-prongs as possible, no rows (does your team even HAVE rows?)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2014, 09:49:45 PM
As far as I understand it, when you're using full board changes you want to just deal as much damage as possible in that scenario, since your team is basically Two-prongs galore, unless you're dealing with 3 enemies that are really bulky (which I don't think ever actually happens) you should just focus on doing as many two-prongs as possible, no rows (does your team even HAVE rows?)

Athena has a green row and Meimei has a green one and a white one. I was thinking Valkyrie had a white one too, but I forgot that white Valkyrie gets orb enhances instead.

Is it ever worth using Seven Star to try to restock the board outside of one-shotting boss battles. I'm still not very good at managing orbs in this context, so I kept getting into situations where I had way too much red and blue on the screen. Would using Seven Star Formation and trying for just a few matches to leave the rest of the screen stocked for later be worth considering, or is it usually better just to spend a turn clearing away useless orbs? The Athena team does have great HP, if bad recovery, so I think I can afford to spend a turn cleaning up occasionally, but I don't know if I should expect to be able to sweep bosses with just my normal orbchangers or if I need Seven Star for them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 21, 2014, 10:57:02 PM
7star

I generally only save 7star for one of two scenarios:

1) I know the boss will die when I use it.
2) The enemy(s) in front of me is about to run me over and the only possible way out is to use 7star.

In either case you're pretty much just trying to swing for maximum, world-wrecking damage. NEVER use it outside a bossfight unless you're in a rush-type area with multiple boss characters and you know you can recharge it before the end (Or just flat-out don't need it for the rest of the dungeon), as it will probably be a waste. Think of it as a bomb in Touhou without the invulnerability. It's that strong.

EDIT: Re: cleaning up

I advise you clean when you can, as running out of ammo is doom in a lot of situations.

Sometimes if you can risk a null turn, you can make some interesting setups like this (I managed this one time in an alt. dungeon and it was glorious)

http://pad.dawnglare.com/?patt=HHDLBRGGBBRDLDHLRDRRGRBLHDHLGL

If you have Verche and Valk, convert all the dark and all the hearts to light, then slide the green between the reds to the two greens above for maximum hilarity (and this is usually stronger than 7star!)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 22, 2014, 01:46:50 AM
In the 4th rebalance update that just came live in JP, Angel Lucifer gets a sub-effect for his active -- Randomly spawn 3 heart orbs
It appears that like other skills with sub-effects, you can activate it when either one of its effect's condition is satisfied, i.e. you can use Luficer's active when your HP is 1
Yes, 600k damage to finish bosses off instead of just 300k, and you'll have at least 6 heart orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 22, 2014, 01:56:57 AM
In the 4th rebalance update that just came live in JP, Angel Lucifer gets a sub-effect for his active -- Randomly spawn 3 heart orbs
It appears that like other skills with sub-effects, you can activate it when either one of its effect's condition is satisfied, i.e. you can use Luficer's active when your HP is 1

No you can't you still need to match the hearts; I had this discussion with Edible days ago lol

This ain't some Grape Dragon shit

EDIT: Except you can? I don't even know and I can't test because lol I don't have a Luci
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 22, 2014, 02:04:59 AM
No you can't you still need to match the hearts; I had this discussion with Edible days ago lol

This ain't some Grape Dragon shit

EDIT: Except you can? I don't even know and I can't test because lol I don't have a Luci

Don't have one either so I can't personally test too.
Anyways, source: http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=22153&snA=72331&tnum=4

What does Chaore think of this buff?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 22, 2014, 02:09:18 AM

Yes, 600k damage to finish bosses off instead of just 300k

1.2 million damage if the enemy is Light like Zeus or Fagan.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 22, 2014, 02:09:43 AM
Don't have one either so I can't personally test too.
Anyways, source: http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=22153&snA=72331&tnum=4

What does Chaore think of this buff?

I think it sounds like a huge oversight like 'oh shit, you can't actually use fa luci if theres no light enemies' was tbh

The express purpose of this buff was probably to allow you to match after using your MS, so i'd be unsurprised if this was patched out.

If this sticks though- HOLY SHIT, LUCI IS ACTUALLY THE BEST AT WHAT HE DOES AGAIN

IT'S A GOD DAMN MIRACLE AND I WISH I HAD THAT SHIT AGES AGO DO YOU KNOW HOW HUGE NOT HAVING TO SPEND A TURN IS

LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE MADE ME INFINITELY LESS PISSED OFF AT BARTHOLOMEW WAY BACK THEN

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 22, 2014, 02:12:51 AM
Got lucky on The Mermaid Feast and got a Mermaid and Gold Dragon on my first try, I'm so happy it's helping me a lot also ya'll need to clean your friend lists I can't even add half of you.  :V Also kudos to most of the people I added half of the picks I got saved my bacon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 22, 2014, 02:45:32 AM
I think it sounds like a huge oversight like 'oh shit, you can't actually use fa luci if theres no light enemies' was tbh

The express purpose of this buff was probably to allow you to match after using your MS, so i'd be unsurprised if this was patched out.

If this sticks though- HOLY SHIT, LUCI IS ACTUALLY THE BEST AT WHAT HE DOES AGAIN

IT'S A GOD DAMN MIRACLE AND I WISH I HAD THAT SHIT AGES AGO DO YOU KNOW HOW HUGE NOT HAVING TO SPEND A TURN IS

LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE MADE ME INFINITELY LESS PISSED OFF AT BARTHOLOMEW WAY BACK THEN

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

On the other hand, having a heartmaker skill that can't be activated at 1 hp is kinda wrong too.
But yea, wow, gungho giving luci a buff that chaore is happy with, is this real life
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 22, 2014, 03:06:09 AM
Hey so now that I'm almost done with plussing Horus (at +200 currently) and the LMeta team is pretty much done (I don't have the willpower necessary to bring both valk and angelion to level 99, especially angelion), I'll start working on the GZL team.

My GZL is already evolved, level 53 and fully awoken, I'm gonna be dumping a lot of exp on him until he's level 99, I'm probably gonna stick to leaving Horus/LMeta up until I'm actually done with his team, but if any of you requires his services just give me a shout.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 22, 2014, 03:20:35 AM
On the other hand, having a heartmaker skill that can't be activated at 1 hp is kinda wrong too.
But yea, wow, gungho giving luci a buff that chaore is happy with, is this real life

What kind of heartmaker drops you -to- 1 though? :V

It's not mainly one.

But yes, this is like actually really big, so much so it's pretty unbelievable it's a conscious design decision.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on December 22, 2014, 03:26:40 AM
luci / high dark ninja / high dark ninja / high dark ninja / high dark ninja / luci

rip universe

edit: Wait there's a dbz collab part 3?

Fuck my life ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 22, 2014, 03:31:07 AM
What, are we getting GT now?

please no

luci / high dark ninja / high dark ninja / high dark ninja / high dark ninja / luci

Screw that, six luci crusade!

Also, if this is true this is a really big buff to satan too, especially when you consider 2 world's ends gives him enough orbs to make a full row.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 22, 2014, 04:17:55 AM
Screw that, six luci crusade!

Lol i tried that in the team simulator just for fun. All full awoken but only leaders +297, gotta be somewhat realistic:

68k HP
15,6k RCV
6 skill boost
3k autoheal
skill-lock proof
entire team with TPA

burst: 3.6M against Light bosses + normal attack (and you can heal back to full istantly, since it would spawn 18 heal orbs!)

Pretty much immortal against anything that doesn't bind or have supreme-ass-kicking attacks  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 22, 2014, 04:52:02 AM
Leilan 0-stones more stuff

(http://i.imgur.com/JTTcpvV.png) (http://i.imgur.com/qMGzdIj.png)

Didn't have Thoth, so an overall win.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 22, 2014, 05:30:40 AM
I zero stoned Thoth and Sopdet, too!

maybe I cheesed it with Ceres and 4000 autoheal but I got a Green Jewel out of it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 22, 2014, 11:34:58 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546960862112530432
Potential Amberfish UVO???

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546953903879643138
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546958877653073920
Osiris' pet shoots laser eye beams. The final Descend Boss of 2014. Is this motherfucker. For real.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546892861262680064
DBZ 3 confirmed. Features Gotenks, Videl, Nappa, as well as others.
A serial code allows Android PAD players to get Bulma.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 22, 2014, 12:19:24 PM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546960862112530432
Potential Amberfish UVO???

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546953903879643138
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546958877653073920
Osiris' pet shoots laser eye beams. The final Descend Boss of 2014. Is this motherfucker. For real.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546892861262680064
DBZ 3 confirmed. Features Gotenks, Videl, Nappa, as well as others.
A serial code allows Android JP PAD players to get Bulma.
Fix'd
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 22, 2014, 12:38:53 PM
Fix'd

thanks very much captain obvious :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 22, 2014, 01:25:38 PM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546953903879643138
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/546958877653073920
Osiris' pet shoots laser eye beams. The final Descend Boss of 2014. Is this motherfucker. For real.

What, is every critter in every REM monster's art becoming a descend now? (Though I suppose Zhao Yun isn't a critter in Liu Bei's art)

I mean, the idea was novel and actually pretty cool with Cauchemar, but now it just seems like gungho is grasping at straws for descends.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 22, 2014, 01:32:14 PM
What, is every critter in every REM monster's art becoming a descend now? (Though I suppose Zhao Yun isn't a critter in Liu Bei's art)

I mean, the idea was novel and actually pretty cool with Cauchemar, but now it just seems like gungho is grasping at straws for descends.

Given that there's interesting mechanic space behind the decision (assuming they continue the "gets better if a particular guy is on your team" thing, which I am) I don't mind at all. Besides, two out of four isn't bad at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 22, 2014, 01:38:56 PM
I'm also pretty sure they have plenty of mythology to work with otherwise. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Also, 3 for 3 on Christmas REM Gold eggs. What did I get in total?
Christmas Lilith
Green Wizard Leeza
Meimei

Facepalm.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 22, 2014, 01:57:38 PM
Wow the green hawk that skills up GGY seems to be less common than the rest of the enemies.

No Deviling drops either, those are the real priority.

Also present egggggggs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 22, 2014, 02:05:46 PM
What, is every critter in every REM monster's art becoming a descend now? (Though I suppose Zhao Yun isn't a critter in Liu Bei's art)

I mean, the idea was novel and actually pretty cool with Cauchemar, but now it just seems like gungho is grasping at straws for descends.

Medjed is actually a thing related to Osiris, though.

An obscure relation but a relation nonetheless.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 22, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Alright so uhh protip for the curious, don't try to google Medjed, you might see some questionable stuff
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on December 22, 2014, 02:40:30 PM
BEARS.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 22, 2014, 03:48:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/9FgPk3dl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/9FgPk3d.jpg)

Took him long enough. Now I just need to keep running and try to find the jewel :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 22, 2014, 03:49:51 PM
Also, 3 for 3 on Christmas REM Gold eggs. What did I get in total?
Christmas Lilith
Green Wizard Leeza
Meimei

*chasing him down the street with pitchfork 'n torch in hand*  :V

Uh, i almost forgot that we have a new chance with present eggs.... who wanna trade with moi?


EDIT: Goddammit i f***ing hate stage 4 of the water insect dragon dungeon! I already wasted 100 stamina because of those 2 idiots! Even a focused 7-star wasn't able to oneshot the demon, which of course immediately Evil Slashed me.
Seriously, this entire dungeon should be a friggin walk in the park for Karin if not for that stage....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 22, 2014, 05:49:01 PM
I forgot Presents have been reset...

Who wants to exchange presents with me?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 22, 2014, 05:59:03 PM
I forgot Presents have been reset...

Who wants to exchange presents with me?

*raise hand* i'm going ahead and send mine ;)

EDIT: lol, dupe Brachy, but thanks for the 3 pluses attached to it  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 22, 2014, 06:24:10 PM
Decided to give myself an early christmas present since mom owed me a hundred bucks anyway, so I bought 60 stones*

Rolled the shit out of the christmas REM, I got 2 Mini-Meimeis, 1 Mini-Haku, 1 Mini-Leilan, the Wood Wizard, 1 Mini-Yomi, 1 Mini-Valk and the thing I was actually rolling for: Mini-Luci.

I still have 4 rolls left but those shall be saved :V

Mini-valk is going into my healer team as soon as I can get her max skilled (Poring Tower where) and mini-luci is going on my Horus Team IMMEDIATELY.

Though now that I have the mini luci I wanted, I have to ask what would be a good all-purpose sub for Horus? The subs I'm using right now would be GOdin, Ecchi and Mini Luci, so I was thinking Izanagi, sound good?

Also, what do I do with the dupe meimeis? I already have the real thing so...

*I'm BR, so US$44 is just over R$100, I'm paying her the difference.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 22, 2014, 06:58:23 PM
I'm so happy I'm in the mei mei club now although I got a Mini Mei Mei she's so cute.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 22, 2014, 10:03:23 PM
Now that everyone has the chinese gods they'll release series 2 for the chinese new year

...I'd actually really lke a Kirin with similar active/leader to the others.

And SOMEONE should be a healer subtype >=(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 22, 2014, 11:23:01 PM
Now that everyone has the chinese gods they'll release series 2 for the chinese new year

...I'd actually really lke a Kirin with similar active/leader to the others.

And SOMEONE should be a healer subtype >=(

Santa Kirin is healer. Does she count :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 22, 2014, 11:26:11 PM
I want the healer+3 orb board active
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 23, 2014, 12:39:36 AM
*raise hand* i'm going ahead and send mine ;)

EDIT: lol, dupe Brachy, but thanks for the 3 pluses attached to it  :D
I just sent you one too.

Lol. I got another Pterra. Wouldn't have minded the dark one. It's the only starter dragon I don't have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 23, 2014, 01:52:00 AM
whelp

umm I lost my phone, and with it, PAD for the time being  :ohdear:

While phones can be replaced, the stones that I would get for logging in daily can't!
It's distressing that this is one of the few things that bothers me about it right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 23, 2014, 02:16:28 AM
whelp

umm I lost my phone, and with it, PAD for the time being  :ohdear:

While phones can be replaced, the stones that I would get for logging in daily can't!
It's distressing that this is one of the few things that bothers me about it right now.

Ouch, sorry to hear that. No chance to recover it?
As for your priorities.... NO COMMENT :V (i'd do the same  ::))

Quote
Lol. I got another Pterra. Wouldn't have minded the dark one. It's the only starter dragon I don't have.

Seems Pterra really loves you, since i got one from your present too  :D Didn't have him, so now we are in the same boat, missing only the dark one
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 23, 2014, 02:51:04 AM
whelp

umm I lost my phone, and with it, PAD for the time being  :ohdear:

While phones can be replaced, the stones that I would get for logging in daily can't!
It's distressing that this is one of the few things that bothers me about it right now.

Oh noooo! That sucks. Well, just for reference, account restoration will probably take about two business days for someone your rank. The two times I've seen it done it was also for people who had spent at least a tiny amount of money in-game, so I don't know if you have and what the difference is if you haven't, but it seems fairly quick.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 23, 2014, 03:00:35 AM
oh umm apparently Google is really good at device tracking and I left it at work. False alarm!

Much better than the alternative of it being stolen. Yeah at least I'll have a full bar of stamina tomorrow morning. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 23, 2014, 03:04:13 AM
whelp

umm I lost my phone, and with it, PAD for the time being  :ohdear:

While phones can be replaced, the stones that I would get for logging in daily can't!
It's distressing that this is one of the few things that bothers me about it right now.
I dunno if it's you being addicted to PaD. But, srz, I wouldn't mind to have lost a few days of log-on than to lose a couple of hundred bucks of a phone.  :V
Seems Pterra really loves you, since i got one from your present too  :D Didn't have him, so now we are in the same boat, missing only the dark one
Well the gift you sent me. I got a Present Egg. Dunno what color yet, but it says here it's No. 519, so pretty much it's Green. :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 23, 2014, 03:29:05 AM
I mean. It's been a serious time-sink for the last year and if I had to potentially lose all that progress then I dunno what I'd do.

Don't get me wrong, I was panicking about the fact I have bunches of personal information on that thing, too, but something I was thinking in the mean time was, "Damn, I'll miss the log-in bonuses at this rate, too."
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 23, 2014, 03:46:20 AM
I've just had a mental image of you trying to explain to your family/significant other the tragedy of losing log-in bonuses or, god forbid, the next godfest.... all the while they are looking at you like an alien spaceform....

..... i started laughing like a loon in the middle of the night dammit!  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 23, 2014, 04:26:18 AM
Has anyone else been having phantom mail today? More than one time today my mailbox has been flashing but when I check it there's nothing in it. Side-effect of the update?

I hate farming for demon and evolution masks. Seriously, game, stop making me do this. Over 100 stamina for zero masks is not okay.

I don't know when it never occurred to me to use Hermes as a friend leader with my Gabriel team. 4/3/2 is pretty good stats. Gives me 75k HP. I don't know what dungeon that would be used for, but I'll keep it in mind now.

I had absolutely monstrous luck on super ruby dragons earlier. In four runs I got something like five super kings, five kings, and three 1.5x fusions. Daaaamn. Too bad that didn't happen when I was actually fusing something on-color, but I'll take it. Good deal.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 23, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
I got a Present Egg. Dunno what color yet, but it says here it's No. 519, so pretty much it's Green. :derp:

Yeah, most people just check what lit it needs to evolve, but rarely some people do check the ID also.

I mean. It's been a serious time-sink for the last year and if I had to potentially lose all that progress then I dunno what I'd do.

Don't get me wrong, I was panicking about the fact I have bunches of personal information on that thing, too, but something I was thinking in the mean time was, "Damn, I'll miss the log-in bonuses at this rate, too."

I'd be just as flustered over the same thing too. Real life contacts? What are those :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 23, 2014, 05:56:02 AM
I've done so many Christmas Dungeon runs on Blessed..1 Present Egg sighting, didn't drop. 12 Christmas Heras, no skill-up. :colonveeplusalpha:

Edit: While posting this. Make that 2 Present Eggs that didn't drop.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 23, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
I've done so many Christmas Dungeon runs on Blessed..1 Present Egg sighting, didn't drop. 12 Christmas Heras, no skill-up. :colonveeplusalpha:

I'm having flashback of trying to maxskill Jester Dragon...... PLEASE, MAKE THE PAIN GO AWAY  :qq:
At least Dragon in Motley is cheap stamina-wise. Someday i'll have to maxskill my gravities too... *shudder*

On an happier note, finally tackled Keeper of Gold for the first time and 0-stoned it! Demon Hadar get!  :toot:
Try to spot the odd one out in my team  :V: Ronia - ADQ Hera-Ur - DQ Hera - D/B Vamp - King DeviTAMA - En's awesome Lu Bu
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 23, 2014, 02:00:20 PM
Yaaay blue orbs in a dungeon that doesn't hose my team tomorrow. Get at me, Karin.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 23, 2014, 02:32:10 PM
Finally got a dark jewel. Good thing Hera-Sol is really easy.

now WATER MECH SUIT ENGAGE

(http://i.imgur.com/SVc40pC.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 23, 2014, 03:06:40 PM
I'm still convinced that his skill should have been Heavenstorm, and that is merely a typo.... :wat:

Btw Suikama, don't take this the wrong way, but everytime i see that big bunch of stones that you have kept all this time for Muse.... a small, really bastard part of me wonders what would be your reaction if, when they finally do a godfest with the knights, you roll all of them BAR HIM  :V

The 99% remaining parts of me wish you luck in finally completing your dream team  ;)  (and i would really love to drop Isis myself, i like both her art and the fact she is unbindable)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 23, 2014, 03:31:43 PM
I'm still convinced that his skill should have been Heavenstorm, and that is merely a typo.... :wat:

It might be a portmanteau of Heaven+Maelstrom.

In other news why did I not try this sooner, this is an easy 0-stone even without maxskill 7stars because of Athena OP.

(http://i.imgur.com/S1yY48y.png) (http://i.imgur.com/ZaP8l39.png)

For some reason I ended the fight with ecchi bound again. No one likes her apparently.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 23, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
Btw Suikama, don't take this the wrong way, but everytime i see that big bunch of stones that you have kept all this time for Muse.... a small, really bastard part of me wonders what would be your reaction if, when they finally do a godfest with the knights, you roll all of them BAR HIM  :V

The 99% remaining parts of me wish you luck in finally completing your dream team  ;)  (and i would really love to drop Isis myself, i like both her art and the fact she is unbindable)
He's gonna be disappointed...just like me when I rolled those 100 Stones. AND I WISH HIM NOT WELL. >:D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 23, 2014, 04:36:29 PM
there also the chance of us not even getting knights because gungho na like come on they came out at the same time as egypt 2.0 in japan WHERE ARE THEY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 23, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
I put my minivalk in my 2nd leader slot and have been getting approximately double the number of pal points.  I'm guessing it's a combination of people trying for S rank and taking her for a test drive.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 23, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
.... next time you hear me speak about using Luci/Luci for a 10-stage mythical dungeon, please SHOOT ME...
Wanted to try it at least once and there was a safe strategy for Hera-Sowilo mythical = over 1 hour  :flamingv:

note to self: never use Luci if the dungeon have more than 7 stages....

Even worse, i got a call right while i was moving, resulting in one turn of no heal..... of course this had to happen right before i ate a 65k hit  :matsuriscowl:
At least i got back my stone clearing it (even got a skillup out of hera herself  :V)

On a different note, i've decided to stop trying the Xmas Rem even tho i could roll more..... the only ones i want are Meimei and Leilan (Genie and Santa Kirin would not be bad), too slim a chance.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 23, 2014, 07:08:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TtmGCtHl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TtmGCtH.jpg)

Whee.

.... next time you hear me speak about using Luci/Luci for a 10-stage mythical dungeon, please SHOOT ME...
Wanted to try it at least once and there was a safe strategy for Hera-Sowilo mythical = over 1 hour  :flamingv:

Boring as it can be, I'd prefer a certain slow win over a risky burst strat if one's available, but I feel your pain.

As for the call thing, try putting your phone in airplane mode when you play?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 24, 2014, 12:08:52 AM
I put my minivalk in my 2nd leader slot and have been getting approximately double the number of pal points.  I'm guessing it's a combination of people trying for S rank and taking her for a test drive.
To be honest when I put my Mini Sakuya up people try to friend me also, bah for some reason when I try to run dungeons with some of your monsters I don't get Pal points..
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 24, 2014, 12:18:53 AM
To be honest when I put my Mini Sakuya up people try to friend me also, bah for some reason when I try to run dungeons with some of your monsters I don't get Pal points..

You may only get pal points from someone once a day. You can tell if you can't get it anymore because they won't have "10 points" when you try to select their leader.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 24, 2014, 02:20:18 AM
You may only get pal points from someone once a day. You can tell if you can't get it anymore because they won't have "10 points" when you try to select their leader.
Oh no wonder!!! Also... wave 4 of Giant's Wrath can suck a duck.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 24, 2014, 08:11:03 AM
Newsflash: EU players get the super ultimate evo of Valks/Hera-Is/Perseus, some AS rebalance, LZL Leader SKill change and the new improved Pengdras.
NA should come soon too.

..... i need so many jewels  :colonveeplusalpha:


EDIT: Now is out for NA too ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 24, 2014, 08:27:15 AM
Liu Bei, Amberjack, Andromeda uevo within 2014 confirmed!

Secretly hoping for healer andromeda... but physical seems more likely? It'd be interesting to see if she'd get the same extra awakenings as perseus or not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 24, 2014, 09:12:21 AM
That awkward moment of having Lu Bu since Rank 23, and not realizing that you can still use his active even if your HP is 1, until now, at Rank 200+. (http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0)

http://youtu.be/SHIQjnDYe9Q?t=3m35s

I have been using Lu Bu wrong guys...all this time. I should really read the descriptions more carefully.

This has opened up so many more possible subs for me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 24, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
That awkward moment of having Lu Bu since Rank 23, and not realizing that you can still use his active even if your HP is 1, until now, at Rank 200+. (http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0)

http://youtu.be/SHIQjnDYe9Q?t=3m35s

I have been using Lu Bu wrong guys...all this time. I should really read the descriptions more carefully.

This has opened up so many more possible subs for me.

The fact that AA Luci's skill worked very similar but didn't allow it probably didn't help you (i REALLY hope the recent "fix" on Morning Star comes true, it would help a lot against certain bosses)

Btw, Rank 200 for me :moogy:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 24, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
It is horseshit how rare demon masks are. Unlike evolution masks they at least have dungeons that go on 1.5x drops, but unlike evolution masks there's only a single floor they have a chance of dropping from in Wednesday dungeon. And if I ever, ever got anything resembling even odds from that floor it wouldn't even be that bad. But every time I need one single green demon mask, no matter where I try to get it from, it costs me over 100 stamina. This morning was the second time in two weeks I spent 130 stamina on Wednesday Dungeon and got one fucking mask. Argh.

On the plus side, Super Valkyries are almost here! As long as I don't get fucked over on my blue orb tomorrow I'm good to go.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 24, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
Those lazy enuf to read cmd.cool's last sentence.
(http://i.imgur.com/4pM0Eha.png)

REJOICE!

Edit: Skill Maxed Athena users. Get ready to go farming for skill-ups again. Skill's CD has been reduced to 7 turns now. Same goes for the listed monsters on their page.
Edit2: :Pengdra Materials are also changed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 24, 2014, 01:46:37 PM
Fat Dragon when please? I would like some words with him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 24, 2014, 03:09:12 PM
It is horseshit how rare demon masks are. Unlike evolution masks they at least have dungeons that go on 1.5x drops, but unlike evolution masks there's only a single floor they have a chance of dropping from in Wednesday dungeon. And if I ever, ever got anything resembling even odds from that floor it wouldn't even be that bad. But every time I need one single green demon mask, no matter where I try to get it from, it costs me over 100 stamina. This morning was the second time in two weeks I spent 130 stamina on Wednesday Dungeon and got one fucking mask. Argh.

If you've got some coins to burn, you can try running <same color samurai dragon> Int; I got five azure masks in six runs yesterday.

This also somehow resulted in *four* Meimei skillups and I still have no idea how.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 24, 2014, 03:19:48 PM
Hey Suikama

Chrono Turtle+Gamble Mage carnival confirmed on PDX
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 24, 2014, 03:42:46 PM
i know -_-

kinda too late there gungho now that theres so many better options

meanwhile still no knights whyyy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 24, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
If you've got some coins to burn, you can try running <same color samurai dragon> Int; I got five azure masks in six runs yesterday.

This also somehow resulted in *four* Meimei skillups and I still have no idea how.

Oh yeah, I think I've heard that before, possibly from you. Unfortunately the Sun Quan fund is untouchable. Until I get even more frustrated with this, then it is.

Also, so that's where my Meimei skillups went
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 24, 2014, 04:12:56 PM
Why is everyone saying use 100% skillbind resist team to beat this and that it's impossible without Chester, I never even needed to use skills to win!

(http://i.imgur.com/98kaiy2.png) (http://i.imgur.com/ETsShjd.png)

I've never had 50 stones before I feel fuzzy inside
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 24, 2014, 04:48:34 PM
Why is everyone saying use 100% skillbind resist team to beat this and that it's impossible without Chester, I never even needed to use skills to win!

(http://i.imgur.com/98kaiy2.png) (http://i.imgur.com/ETsShjd.png)

I've never had 50 stones before I feel fuzzy inside

Agreed, I think I could do it with my normal team, but it would be a slog for me. And I keep pulling masks so I haven't needed more.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 24, 2014, 04:58:07 PM
Agreed, I think I could do it with my normal team, but it would be a slog for me. And I keep pulling masks so I haven't needed more.

It's actually not as bad as people think, you just have to not get heartstarved when you kill the mystic mask, because otherwise that -50% HP preemptive will probably send you below 9000 HP and you will die next turn. Otherwise it's totally possible to do it the way gungho originally intended (no skillblock resistance).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 24, 2014, 06:44:05 PM
Whew I think I got most of the Chibi Chinese gods almost oh well... Merry Christmas Eve. I guess?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 24, 2014, 07:32:15 PM
I was killing time looking at guides for the rem monsters i got in the box and just noticed something reeeally interesting: if i ever get Hanzo i can field strong teams for both Pandora and DMeta....

Gungho, you know what to do.... Next godfest: Sengoku and Riders (lol if that really happen i'm gonna IAP so hard... need at least 4 of them  :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 24, 2014, 08:44:26 PM
Preeeetty sure the ninjas get "carnivals", not "godfests," and "carnivals" happen once in never.

(Though I could be wrong, I too kinda want a hanzo since I have pandora and all :derp:)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 24, 2014, 09:41:46 PM
Preeeetty sure the ninjas get "carnivals", not "godfests," and "carnivals" happen once in never.

You mean "never" as in the one with Hanzo supposedly happening in less than 2 days according to PDX? Yeah sure  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 24, 2014, 09:44:56 PM
You mean "never" as in the one with Hanzo supposedly happening in less than 2 days according to PDX? Yeah sure  :V

Hey, they're pretty uncommon! :V

Though I suppose they have been getting more common lately,
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 24, 2014, 09:58:28 PM
> prepared for disappointment on my likely final Christmas REM pull (unless I spend more money)
> MINI LMETA

Ronia was my #1 target but LMeta and Valk were both big wants so. :3

(Might still toss some money at it tomorrow but probably just one pull worth. And probably disappointment. :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 24, 2014, 11:20:47 PM
Just tried Zeus Vulcan for the first time and very nearly won, but I died on Hera with her being just a hair above giving me an extra turn at the 25% HP mark. Once again, I think I could do this pretty plausibly with a skillmax Sun Quan and Beyzul. Come on, Sun Quan skillups, come ooooon...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 25, 2014, 12:56:45 AM
oh right present reset

who wants to trade? :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on December 25, 2014, 01:02:54 AM
oh right present reset

who wants to trade? :derp:
Ooh, ooh, pick me, pick me!

...are we even friends, before I get too excited?

EDIT:  We...are not?  How strange?  Did I not have stuff you could use or something?  I mean I don't mind but that's weird since I thought I had you on my list at one point.

In that case I have backups, so someone else can be blessed by Isis~!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 25, 2014, 01:09:16 AM
I traded with Matsy already but I will totally take any presents anyone wants to throw my way anyway.   :smug:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 25, 2014, 01:09:48 AM
I'll take presents too :O
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Yukarin on December 25, 2014, 01:56:36 AM
me too~!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2014, 02:49:11 AM
I would like NO MORE PRESENTS. Those who sent me presents, thank you very much. I wish I could reciprocate. And they were aaaaall snow globes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 25, 2014, 03:02:36 AM
"I'm at work and I have a present egg to send, who do I send it to? Commander Cool, he's a cool guy!" - Me

Mine was a Plessie
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 25, 2014, 03:07:05 AM
I'm always open to more presents :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 25, 2014, 03:21:08 AM
Guess i'll hop onto the bandwagon and add myself to the list of "i'd be happy to receive presents, although i can't reciprocate anymore"  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 25, 2014, 03:31:33 AM
I already gave my present to the janitor for keeping the place clean 24/7 and for being a bro.

That said, i'd rather people give their present to someone other than me. I'm good on exp sources, and already got two noels from a random on my list and my own pull.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 25, 2014, 04:24:37 AM
And the janitor gave his present to his brother (I'd have had to roll dice or something to decide from you all otherwise).

Meanwhile, finally got all the demon masks I need for now. Just need keepers and emelits, which will possibly get me Orichalcum skillups and dark pengdras in the process, so yay.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 25, 2014, 04:27:01 AM
Time travellers has discovered that JP is getting skill up rate x2.5 for the next event this friday.
Discuss.

Good thing I saved up like 4 blue fairies and never had the courage to feed them to Andromeda, this sounds like the best time to do so.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 25, 2014, 04:47:08 AM
So I gave my friend a present and..... ENDED UP GETTING PLESSIE OUT OF THE DEAL REALLY WHAT THE LIVING FUCK IS THIS SORCERY!!!! -TABLE FRICKING FLIP-

I already have a Plessie....  :matsuriscowl:

Edit: 2 NOW
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 25, 2014, 05:11:54 AM
Sharon and meimei for christmas pulls.

...why me ;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 25, 2014, 06:47:42 AM
Ooh, ooh, pick me, pick me!

...are we even friends, before I get too excited?

EDIT:  We...are not?  How strange?  Did I not have stuff you could use or something?  I mean I don't mind but that's weird since I thought I had you on my list at one point.

In that case I have backups, so someone else can be blessed by Isis~!
i might have accidentally deleted you then at some point :derp:

I'll take presents too :O

me too~!
I'm always open to more presents :D
aaa too many presents

we need a pad secret santa or something :V

Sharon and meimei for christmas pulls.

...why me ;;
how can you complain about more meimei though :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2014, 07:36:09 AM
It's nearly 3AM, I haven't slept in 20 hours, and I've got a full stamina bar. I'm ready for you Karin... I will stone until I can stone no more for that blue orb. My only concern is running out of I&Is because I'm not sure if people will be logging on tomorrow or not. Fortunately I don't need to use good one to be confident about clearing. Honestly I can probably get away with using blue Valkyries.

Time travellers has discovered that JP is getting skill up rate x2.5 for the next event this friday.
Discuss.

Good thing I saved up like 4 blue fairies and never had the courage to feed them to Andromeda, this sounds like the best time to do so.

!

Well, this is going to cause havoc if it's recurring but rare. So many materials stockpiled forever for an extra 1/20th of a chance... If it's a new standard though (which is doubtful) then A+.

Sharon and meimei for christmas pulls.

...why me ;;

You're gonna make that all-Meimeis team. This is not up for debate.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 25, 2014, 07:54:53 AM
I'm more iffed at Sharon really :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Yukarin on December 25, 2014, 08:23:09 AM
yo suikama

you also accidentally deleted me haha
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 25, 2014, 10:21:34 AM
Srz... Why is Christmas REM giving me dupes of Chibi Gods I already have as normal Gods.

Okay. 2 Chibi Hakus are fine...but 5 Chibi Meimeis? Srz, staph. I barely even need 2 Chibi Meimeis. If they have an evo. I wouldn't mind. But no they don't have one.

Also all I got are the Chibi Chinese Gods from the REM. I didn't even get Chibi Kirin. I have 4/5. Why? 'Cause Meimei is too busy clogging up th REM.

Not a single Gold Egg too.
Edit: This is why I hate when they say x8 rates as opposed to x1 introductory rates. You can't feel the increased rates.

I'll do one more pull. I don't mind another Chibi. But srz, staph with the Meimeis.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 25, 2014, 10:53:19 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/547986616036229120

2nd Liu Bei UVO branch art
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 25, 2014, 12:12:14 PM
HOLY BUGS FREE EXTREME KING
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2014, 01:16:23 PM
Gasp! Fat Dragon, is that you? It's a Christmas miracle!

(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz304/dummy2205/unnamed-2.png)

And Karin too! You came! Wait until I tell Valkyrie! She, uh...

CHOMP

(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz304/dummy2205/unnamed1.png)

Mega Valkyrie, folks. Just need another Fat Dragon and I can do the white one too. That can wait though. Four tries for Karin, by the way. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 25, 2014, 02:37:10 PM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/547986616036229120

2nd Liu Bei UVO branch art

So the second one is gonna be a dragon subtype then?

Well, I guess they're focusing more on green dragon.

-cmd cool gets mega valk-

Grats! I wanna do mega light valk but unfortunately the only orbs I don't have are light and green (and I'm trash and can barely clear legend dungeons).

Tomorrow is Hera-Is and after that comes goddess descended though, so if I get lucky with the legend invades I should be able to do my own megavalk.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 25, 2014, 03:08:54 PM
Mega Valkyrie, folks. Just need another Fat Dragon and I can do the white one too. That can wait though. Four tries for Karin, by the way. Not bad at all.

Congrats!
Wished you were in JP or NA/JP server isn't separate so I can add you and use your valk :(

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/547986616036229120

2nd Liu Bei UVO branch art
I guess Andromeda art is tomorrow :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 25, 2014, 04:29:16 PM

(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz304/dummy2205/unnamed1.png)

Mega Valkyrie, folks. Just need another Fat Dragon and I can do the white one too. That can wait though. Four tries for Karin, by the way. Not bad at all.

Oh hell yeah guys let's start a valk party up in here

(http://i.imgur.com/GA1JOHe.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 25, 2014, 05:01:48 PM
MFW i try Hera-Ur Mythical with Ronia, Karin invade in floor 2 and is dealt with without problems.... and then the f*****g game decide to heart-orb troll me not one, not two but THREE GODDAMM TIMES IN A ROW.

Not even a friggin FULL BOARD CLEAR after a Sonia active gave me 3 heart orbs! So instead of being happy for the jewel i'm raging mad for 3-stoning a dungeon that was supposed to be easy for my team.....


Anyway, congrats to those who already got the new valk uevos! I still lack a few jewels for evolving one of my 2  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 25, 2014, 06:18:18 PM
MFW i try Hera-Ur Mythical with Ronia, Karin invade in floor 2 and is dealt with without problems.... and then the f*****g game decide to heart-orb troll me not one, not two but THREE GODDAMM TIMES IN A ROW.

Not even a friggin FULL BOARD CLEAR after a Sonia active gave me 3 heart orbs! So instead of being happy for the jewel i'm raging mad for 3-stoning a dungeon that was supposed to be easy for my team.....


Anyway, congrats to those who already got the new valk uevos! I still lack a few jewels for evolving one of my 2  :derp:

Wut, Hera-Ur mythical is known to be a piece of crap. Congrats on clearing it dude.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 25, 2014, 06:21:32 PM
MFW i try Hera-Ur Mythical with Ronia, Karin invade in floor 2 and is dealt with without problems.... and then the f*****g game decide to heart-orb troll me not one, not two but THREE GODDAMM TIMES IN A ROW.

Not even a friggin FULL BOARD CLEAR after a Sonia active gave me 3 heart orbs! So instead of being happy for the jewel i'm raging mad for 3-stoning a dungeon that was supposed to be easy for my team.....

This makes me wonder if Drawn Joker or something would be useful. 625% RCV isn't gonna do a whole lot of good when there are no hearts.

I'm wondering how you even survived three turns of damage in there without any healing. Place is rough.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 25, 2014, 06:41:27 PM
Speaking of Hera-Ur, commandercool, are you doing Mythical with that Beyzul team of yours? I've been trying to wrap my head around how to handle the dungeon myself but nothing is coming to me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2014, 06:49:14 PM
Speaking of Hera-Ur, commandercool, are you doing Mythical with that Beyzul team of yours? I've been trying to wrap my head around how to handle the dungeon myself but nothing is coming to me.

Yup. Only dangerous floor is the first one. You gotta knock both ogres below 50% before you get bound. Being bound is okay as long as they don't end up synced for their second hit. Everything else is either very stallable or is Hera, who dies to any hard hit.

Edit: Oh yeah, and you have to blast Ifrit past his green HP, but that should be easy with a water team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 25, 2014, 09:16:59 PM
Mega Valk get. Also thanks mini valk
(http://i.imgur.com/dMZQKc8l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/dMZQKc8)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on December 25, 2014, 11:08:21 PM
Looks like my final pulls will be:

Mini-Haku
Mini-Haku
Mini-Haku
Mini-Yomi
Mini-Leilan

Hoorj. :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 25, 2014, 11:10:49 PM
Looks like my final pulls will be:

Mini-Haku
Mini-Haku
Mini-Haku
Mini-Yomi
Mini-Leilan

Hoorj. :v

Mine were Big Leilan and little Kirin.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 25, 2014, 11:14:14 PM
Looks like my final pulls will be:

Mini-Haku
Mini-Haku
Mini-Haku
Mini-Yomi
Mini-Leilan

Hoorj. :v

mini-yomi legit thou
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2014, 11:31:00 PM
Trying to decide whether or not to Christmas pulls. I have one left, I could theoretically buy more. The only things I want are the grownup Chinese, the wizards, and Yomi and Metatron.

On a related note (I keep thinking "I can afford to waste stones, because both of my teams are optimal") is my Athena team done? Which is to say, are there any REM things that would be more optimal on it than something on there right now? This is the team:

Athena/Valkyrie/Verche/Meimei/GZL

Edit: Mini Sun Quan? What the fuck? Where is that from? Is that farmable? More Sun Quan skillups in the world is a great thing if so.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 25, 2014, 11:51:53 PM
Athena/Valkyrie/Verche/Meimei/GZL

You could try to pick up both Izanagi and Avalondrake in place of verche and meimei (since avalon drake does the same thing as meimei + verche though that's up for debate) and having izanagi would make your damage skyrocket.

Though the team is pretty good as-is afaik so...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on December 26, 2014, 12:05:14 AM
mini-yomi legit thou

She's ultra legit, yeah.

I'm okay with the rest, just wish I had a real Haku to go with her kittens.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 26, 2014, 12:13:15 AM
You could try to pick up both Izanagi and Avalondrake in place of verche and meimei (since avalon drake does the same thing as meimei + verche though that's up for debate) and having izanagi would make your damage skyrocket.

Though the team is pretty good as-is afaik so...

The thing about Drake and the Sonias is that like the 3 color boards, they're not that reliable, but unlike the 3 color boards, the only thing  you can do is fulll boarding it, and most of the time, Chinese + Orbchanger >>> Full boarded Sonia because with two color with the one you want being dominant lets you do stuff like having combos and multiple rows.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 26, 2014, 12:26:13 AM
Yeah but this is a TPA team, having way too many orbs cuts on your damage significantly since it makes TPAs really hard/impossible to activate, at least rows require 6+ orbs to activate and not exactly six.

Which is why I said it was up for debate, though I could be completely wrong on this one (again).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 26, 2014, 12:28:31 AM
goddamn I didn't actually expect to get this far ever in my life

(http://i.imgur.com/oEnbKR0.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/OPifvBg.jpg)

Edit: Mini Sun Quan? What the fuck? Where is that from? Is that farmable? More Sun Quan skillups in the world is a great thing if so.

Mini 3K units with drastically less HP that aren't GZL or GGY are available in a new PAL machine in JP for 1000 pal points per pull. Seems pretty good, and they also have a pal point cap increase to 20000 in the future so we can look forward to that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 26, 2014, 12:51:32 AM
yo suikama

you also accidentally deleted me haha
oops

okay time to readd people


...your friends list is full rip
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2014, 01:11:45 AM
You could try to pick up both Izanagi and Avalondrake in place of verche and meimei (since avalon drake does the same thing as meimei + verche though that's up for debate) and having izanagi would make your damage skyrocket.

Though the team is pretty good as-is afaik so...

Hmm. Avalondrake seems sub-optimal, since I don't think I ever want to activate Meimei and Verche at the same time. Seems like it would make prongs too hard to make. I have multiple orbchangers for consistency, not for combining them. Izanagi might be a big thing though, especially if skillups for him ever come out. I could see a skillmax Izanagi replacing GZL, at least some of the time. Probably not permanently since I like those skillboosts, but he would be worth having.

Mini 3K units with drastically less HP that aren't GZL or GGY are available in a new PAL machine in JP for 1000 pal points per pull. Seems pretty good, and they also have a pal point cap increase to 20000 in the future so we can look forward to that.

Oh interesting. I hadn't heard about that. I like it. And Sun Quan is such an integral part of blue healers that a farmable substitute (that isn't Waron) will allow a lot more people to run them, even if he is sub-optimal. I imagine the same is true of Lu Bu for some. And my roommate will be happy to hear about the Guan Yu skillups, since he runs him now and got fucked on drops from the red insect dungeon (although I think he did get two skillups out of the five or whatever that dropped).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 26, 2014, 01:15:48 AM
Yeah but this is a TPA team, having way too many orbs cuts on your damage significantly since it makes TPAs really hard/impossible to activate, at least rows require 6+ orbs to activate and not exactly six.

Which is why I said it was up for debate, though I could be completely wrong on this one (again).

Yeah. that's why what I said works. While you can get too many, you can also get too little. If you don't like what the tricolor board change gave you, can combo it with an orbchanger to make a more favorable board. If the two color board doesn't work, your only option is a full board.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 26, 2014, 01:27:27 AM

Oh interesting. I hadn't heard about that. I like it. And Sun Quan is such an integral part of blue healers that a farmable substitute (that isn't Waron) will allow a lot more people to run them, even if he is sub-optimal. I imagine the same is true of Lu Bu for some. And my roommate will be happy to hear about the Guan Yu skillups, since he runs him now and got fucked on drops from the red insect dungeon (although I think he did get two skillups out of the five or whatever that dropped).

Yeah, it's pretty much great for anyone that needs SQ and LB, SQ moreso because he isn't missing out on much with the decreased HP. Also of note all their original awakenings are replaced with board enhances.

Mini-DQXQ is also pretty neat - they retain their awesome leader skill and are 5*, so even better for S-Ranking stuff than the originals. The orb enhance awakenings are actually also better than the rows on their normal version, as well as only taking 3 million exp to max instead of 4 million.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2014, 02:08:24 AM
(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz304/dummy2205/Screenshot_2014-12-25-21-04-52.png)

Oh PAD, today we are friends. I forgive you for all the times what you dicked me over like.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 26, 2014, 03:01:52 AM
Seems pretty good, and they also have a pal point cap increase to 20000 in the future so we can look forward to that.

We already got the pal point cap increase a while back
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 26, 2014, 03:25:11 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pGY9jDY.png)

Edit: The date it starts is wrong. I assume that's 27th.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 26, 2014, 03:30:32 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/548318192850857984

purikyua andromeda

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5wKtJlCYAA6Bpy.jpg a new blue healer appears
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2014, 03:58:40 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pGY9jDY.png)

Edit: The date it starts is wrong. I assume that's 27th.

Hmm, looks tricky. I might be able to pull that off. Cauchemar's damage is very low, but he binds AND steals hearts, which is pretty rough to stall against since I usually rely on stockpiled hearts to unbind my guys. He's delayable and wastes a turn at low health though, so I could get a lot of consecutive Beyzul turns to wail on him. I'd be able to charge up skills on the first two floors, then would need to unload some skills to take out Lilith and Amon before dying, then charge back up on Cauchemar while hoping his statuses don't screw me too bad. I'm interested to see how this goes.

Edit: Might not need to use many skills on Lilith or Amon, now that I look at it. Lilith is tankable, and Amon gives a turn of warning at low health where I could switch to Beyzul and probably just take him out with the water orbs already on the board if I'm stockpiling correctly, then go for the two-hit kill on Cauchemar. As long as I don't get bad luck in the last two turns that should do it with minimal time spent dicking around with statuses from Cauch.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/548318192850857984

purikyua andromeda

Hmm. Healer subtype maybe? Although I can't see subbing anything out for her even assuming she gets the same amazing awakenings as Perseus, so maybe not. I&I teams might want a healer Andromeda though?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 26, 2014, 04:03:38 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5wKtJlCYAA6Bpy.jpg a new blue healer appears

Thank you based gungho

RIP Ruka 2014-2014
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 26, 2014, 04:08:26 AM

Hmm. Healer subtype maybe? Although I can't see subbing anything out for her even assuming she gets the same amazing awakenings as Perseus, so maybe not. I&I teams might want a healer Andromeda though?

she's god/healer and gets a 2nd row

also

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/548327145605320704 medjedra
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2014, 04:15:01 AM
Thank you based gungho

RIP Ruka 2014-2014

Jesus fucking shit, never mind. I thought her Recover Bind was an autoheal, she is just a million times better than Ruka in every possible way. Well, guess my team isn't finished any more after all.

Well, that's not strictly true. Changing away light is much worse than changing away dark on blue healers, and on the Gabriel version watermaker is much worse than heartmaker. Her cooldown is very sligthly higher and she's massively more difficult to skillup. But the better stats, extra blue row, and time extend make her functionally better if not strictly better. I'm not going to be kicking myself too hard for not having her since Ruka does still bring some utility she can't, but I will be stockpiling stones to get her because she is insane. Basically she's a little bit of a tossup for Gabriel, but she definitely goes on I&I and basically makes I&I infinitely better than Gabriel, no contest forever.

she's god/healer and gets a 2nd row

also

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/548327145605320704 medjedra

Huh. Do we know them skills?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 26, 2014, 04:20:02 AM
Jesus fucking shit, never mind. I thought her Recover Bind was an autoheal, she is just a million times better than Ruka in every possible way. Well, guess my team isn't finished any more after all.

Ruka is not a god so she can deal with god-type binds, but I'd use Andromeda over her in most cases :V (or use both with Gab and take out SQ for 80% skill bind resist)

Medjet active: Half all damage for 1 turn, Balanced type atk x1.5 for 1 turn
leader: When HP above 50%, green atk x3. If Osiris in team, rcv x1.5
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 26, 2014, 04:44:50 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/u1GhQfT.jpg)

Kids.

Don't be me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 26, 2014, 04:56:40 AM
did the 3K PEM

1. Mini Sun Quan
2. Mini Lu Bu

:)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 26, 2014, 05:49:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/u1GhQfT.jpg)

Kids.

Don't be me.

 :objection!: GUNGHO! Trade system, NOW!  :qq:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 26, 2014, 05:51:42 AM
more christmas pulls before its gone

>chibi sakuya

okay fuck this
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 26, 2014, 06:45:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/u1GhQfT.jpg)

Kids.

Don't be me.
I feel you mate... Dupe Chibi Meimeis... :qq:

*Insert "Why can't I hold all these 'Meimeis'" meme here, 'cause too lazy to make one*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 26, 2014, 06:50:01 AM
Also on the list.

Three chibi Lucifers.

Kids, seriously. Don't be me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 26, 2014, 06:56:04 AM
i think my final count is 11 pulls and not a single gold egg >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on December 26, 2014, 07:05:17 AM
Huzzah, finally got one Royal Green Hawk, AND it skilled up my GGY.  Down to 11 now, so it's a start.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 26, 2014, 07:12:55 AM
i think my final count is 11 pulls and not a single gold egg >_>

Ouch. I think my batting average was 2/5 when it came to gold eggs.

Huzzah, finally got one Royal Green Hawk, AND it skilled up my GGY.  Down to 11 now, so it's a start.

Nice. I'm trying to get more of those. I got two earlier and they miraculously gave me two skill-ups.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 26, 2014, 07:31:31 AM
Ouch. I think my batting average was 2/5 when it came to gold eggs.
This is why I hate when they say x8 rates as opposed to x1 introductory rates. You can't feel the increased rates.
Not a single gold egg here either.

You'd think with x8 rates, and only 21 monsters in the C.REM, you'd atleast have one Gold Egg.

But no...you'd have better chances during a Godfest than this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 26, 2014, 08:29:20 AM
"oh hey I can't do gaia right now because no one has a yinping up let's buy some pulls for hearts and diamonds and hope for red/dark valk"

Sharon
Basilisk
Exa-Hydra
Sharon
Ice Guardian

WHAT IS WITH THIS FUCKING GAME AND GIVING ME THE MOST WORTHLESS WIZARD GIRL

THAT'S FOUR NOW GUNGHO

STOP IT
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 26, 2014, 09:30:48 AM
"oh hey I can't do gaia right now because no one has a yinping up let's buy some pulls for hearts and diamonds and hope for red/dark valk"

Sharon
Basilisk
Exa-Hydra
Sharon
Ice Guardian

WHAT IS WITH THIS FUCKING GAME AND GIVING ME THE MOST WORTHLESS WIZARD GIRL

THAT'S FOUR NOW GUNGHO

STOP IT

I came to the forum to question if i should try to roll because i need quite a few of the gold eggs featured now...... YOU MADE A CONVINCING POINT. :V


.....for the moment..... ::)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 26, 2014, 10:40:50 AM
Nice. I'm trying to get more of those. I got two earlier and they miraculously gave me two skill-ups.

Had this happen to me earlier as well. Hawks refusing to drop now though, even though I keep seeing 2 per run lately.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 26, 2014, 01:31:56 PM
holy fuk this x2.5 skillup bonus is a thing

3/5 Lilith Skillups to Lv4
1/4 Valk skillups to Lv2

THE SKILLUP FARMING IS ENGAGED

WTB>DMeta friends
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 26, 2014, 01:48:58 PM
holy fuk this x2.5 skillup bonus is a thing

3/5 Lilith Skillups to Lv4
1/4 Valk skillups to Lv2

THE SKILLUP FARMING IS ENGAGED

WTB>DMeta friends

WTB>skillup monsters that actually drop  :V


A question: is there any reason to keep the High Ninjas (apart from High Dark for The Morning Star)? Even for cost-restricted dungeons they doesn't seems to be used at all. Wasn't there a dungeon that allowed only 4* or less?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 26, 2014, 01:58:34 PM
A question: is there any reason to keep the High Ninjas (apart from High Dark for The Morning Star)? Even for cost-restricted dungeons they doesn't seems to be used at all. Wasn't there a dungeon that allowed only 4* or less?

Hrungnir's dungeon. I use High Dark for it. You can also use Chibi Chinas for it now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 26, 2014, 02:30:56 PM
"oh hey I can't do gaia right now because no one has a yinping up let's buy some pulls for hearts and diamonds and hope for red/dark valk"

Sharon
Basilisk
Exa-Hydra
Sharon
Ice Guardian

WHAT IS WITH THIS FUCKING GAME AND GIVING ME THE MOST WORTHLESS WIZARD GIRL

THAT'S FOUR NOW GUNGHO

STOP IT

Pulled a few more this morning because I am fucking stupid

Sharon
GrimRock
Leeza

:persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 26, 2014, 02:49:36 PM
Don't know about GrimRock but Leeza is good for Perseus and GZL..... *blatantly trying to cheer him up*

Pull a bit more and you will probably be able to beat the WR for "fastest maxskill* with Sharon  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 26, 2014, 02:53:36 PM
I think I'm the only one who really wants a Sharon here.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on December 26, 2014, 02:59:06 PM
Has anyone here still not done a present trade, or shall I look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 26, 2014, 03:29:01 PM
Don't know about GrimRock but Leeza is good for Perseus and GZL..... *blatantly trying to cheer him up*

Pull a bit more and you will probably be able to beat the WR for "fastest maxskill* with Sharon  :V

I don't have Perseus of GZL.

I think I'm the only one who really wants a Sharon here.

Take them. Take them all. She's absolutely undeniably utterly and completely worthless to me.

I stupidly bought one more pull and got Dragon Rider. :V

On the bright side of all of this bullshit, I one-stoned Gaia descended (didn't get the sweep kill on Ceres and she bound and crushed me), and I now have her. Never again.

Now all I need to do is farm some devilits and make Zeus Striatos and Awoken Hades will be mine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 26, 2014, 03:42:41 PM
On the bright side of all of this bullshit, I one-stoned Gaia descended (didn't get the sweep kill on Ceres and she bound and crushed me), and I now have her. Never again.

What team did you use for Gaia? That 12 or less restriction really gut 99% of my rooster (i'll probably try Flame Chasers)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 26, 2014, 05:35:42 PM
Got some Christmas money so I might buy some stones to pull from the machine, but first I need to hunt materials to evolve my two Plessies to skill up my Plessiel.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 26, 2014, 05:45:40 PM
I don't think people skill up starters because their skill never scales
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 26, 2014, 05:47:06 PM
Got some Christmas money so I might buy some stones to pull from the machine, but first I need to hunt materials to evolve my two Plessies to skill up my Plessiel.

Well, if you -want- to skillup your plesiel I won't stop you but know that you don't need to since Plessie and Plesiel have the same ability (which is the only requirement for skillups).

It is also not required since, as soon as he turns into a plesios his skill level will turn back to 1, and skilling up plesios is a lot easier with legendary dragons.

The two extra plessies you have are from the present egg machine right? If so you might wanna use them on whatever god you want to use for endgame content.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 26, 2014, 06:25:34 PM
Well, if you -want- to skillup your plesiel I won't stop you but know that you don't need to since Plessie and Plesiel have the same ability (which is the only requirement for skillups).

It is also not required since, as soon as he turns into a plesios his skill level will turn back to 1, and skilling up plesios is a lot easier with legendary dragons.

The two extra plessies you have are from the present egg machine right? If so you might wanna use them on whatever god you want to use for endgame content.
I'll take both you and Moogs word for it then I'll go for a Water type god then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 26, 2014, 06:29:06 PM
I think I'm the only one who really wants a Sharon here.

I didn't want one, let alone two (yeah i pulled another one from the xmas mistakes. and leeza.)

I honestly don't like the RGB wizards that much.

Though, her, leeza, and supergirl would be greaT IF I HAD A FUCKING SANTA KIRIN.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 26, 2014, 06:56:17 PM
green jewel get

tomorrow super valk shall be mine
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 26, 2014, 06:57:43 PM
(http://blog-imgs-67.fc2.com/m/i/n/minpuzz/2014122703075372b.png)

Ra Tamadora, presumably to appear in medjet descended.
COST 10
Active: Solar Lazer
Leader: When you clear Red,Green,Blue,Light,Dark together, ATKx5

The ultimate cost-restrict dungeon leader.
I'm going to attempt Dragonrin Legend with this.



(http://i.imgur.com/P11OYe7.png)
9 Rows, 6 SB
easily over 30k hp and around 4k recovery.
This team is godly :V who needs a hatsume anymore :Vvvv (I'm going to pull a bunch now that I don't need her aren't I)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 26, 2014, 07:01:43 PM
(http://blog-imgs-67.fc2.com/m/i/n/minpuzz/2014122703075372b.png)

Ra Tamadora, presumably to appear in medjet descended.
COST 10
Active: Solar Lazer
Leader: When you clear Red,Green,Blue,Light,Dark together, ATKx5

The ultimate cost-restrict dungeon leader.
I'm going to attempt Dragonrin Legend with this.



(http://i.imgur.com/P11OYe7.png)
9 Rows, 6 SB
easily over 30k hp and around 4k recovery.
This team is godly :V who needs a hatsume anymore :Vvvv (I'm going to pull a bunch now that I don't need her aren't I)

I still like hatsume for her change. But yeah, Andromeda is making I&I slowly stronger.

Your only 2 rows off my shiva team now :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2014, 07:24:22 PM
The more I think about it the more I don't think I would use Andromeda on my team. Changing away light is too unfortunate, since it makes the one-two punch of Sun Quan active, then Ruka+Valkyrie on the first turn and Gabriel on the second turn unusable. The extra damage from the additional row might make up for that to some extend, but the colors just don't work. I still would like one so I can run an I&I team eventually, but it's not a priority. Maybe that's just me trying to rationalize her away because I don't have one. Without her my team has 50k HP and seven rows, and with her it would have 52k and eight rows, which is actually kind of negligible. The extra skillboost, lock resist, and time extend are nice though.

What do we think of using her as a leader? Would Andromeda+I&I have any merit? Maybe Andromeda/Gabriel/Valkyrie/Sharon/Sun Quan/I&I? I've never played a hero god, but I guess at that point you'd probably be better off abandoning the healer theme and just going all-blue with two Andromeda leads.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 26, 2014, 07:34:30 PM
The more I think about it the more I don't think I would use Andromeda on my team. Changing away light is too unfortunate, since it makes the one-two punch of Sun Quan active, then Ruka+Valkyrie on the first turn and Gabriel on the second turn unusable. The extra damage from the additional row might make up for that to some extend, but the colors just don't work. I still would like one so I can run an I&I team eventually, but it's not a priority. Maybe that's just me trying to rationalize her away because I don't have one. Without her my team has 50k HP and seven rows, and with her it would have 52k and eight rows, which is actually kind of negligible. The extra skillboost, lock resist, and time extend are nice though.

What do we think of using her as a leader? Would Andromeda+I&I have any merit? Maybe Andromeda/Gabriel/Valkyrie/Sharon/Sun Quan/I&I? I've never played a hero god, but I guess at that point you'd probably be better off abandoning the healer theme and just going all-blue with two Andromeda leads.

She'd probably be replacing one of your listed cards as she's stronger though ;v I'd need to take a second glance at your team, but andromeda is basically god's gift to blue healer right now.

Andromeda is naturally better off leading with herself and just packing good blue orb changers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on December 26, 2014, 07:43:13 PM
Got my blue valk ult evoed.  I'll work on the other two later.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2014, 07:44:37 PM
Oops, I mis-remembered how her active works. Because it changes red to blue, whereas I thought it changed light to blue, it actually works exactly the same as the setup I have now, I'd just have to have Gabriel go first. At that point the only real concern is the lack of healing oomph from her orbchange, since it makes less hearts which actually does matter to a stall team. However, the time extend would hopefully boost my combo count by just enough to bring more hearts onto the board naturally and heal a little more every time I match hearts to make up for it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 26, 2014, 08:20:23 PM
I skilled up yomi and now I don't really know why or what to do with her.  I guess she can be an alt for my Athena team?
(http://i.imgur.com/LzpWSE0l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/LzpWSE0)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 26, 2014, 08:25:01 PM
I skilled up yomi and now I don't really know why or what to do with her.  I guess she can be an alt for my Athena team?
(http://i.imgur.com/LzpWSE0l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/LzpWSE0)
So jelly.... hmm... I was thinking the same thing I mean some of us got Minis and can't even evolve them which is sad, but at least they can skill level.

Edit: I just ran Shrine of Spirits normal and got all the evolution materials I need.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 26, 2014, 08:36:19 PM
Got some Christmas money so I might buy some stones to pull from the machine

Wait until next fest to pull. People are expecting one around New Years or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 26, 2014, 08:41:57 PM
I need a light mask to ult valkyrie, but I used my last one to evolve Izanagi. What to do...right now if GGY skill-up hunting time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 26, 2014, 08:46:47 PM
What team did you use for Gaia? That 12 or less restriction really gut 99% of my rooster (i'll probably try Flame Chasers)

It's 14 or less.

I ran Guan Yinping/Echidna/Gigas/Lilith (for the treants)/King Shynee/Guan Yinping.

You really need to build a team for it. I'll be shocked if you can do it just throwing whatever whatnot together. Flame Chaser is definitely legit for it though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 27, 2014, 04:43:46 AM
I still like hatsume for her change. But yeah, Andromeda is making I&I slowly stronger.

Your only 2 rows off my shiva team now :v

wat :V how the heck do I beat this. :ohdear: lul

Wellll I'll keep telling myself I don't need a hatsume so as to not have to go crazy over muracores anymore.
Well, for a team with ~33k hp but only 4k recovery, heartmakers are actually quite important because you can actually take hits from bosses now but healing is not as simple as Ronia's silly 6.25x rcv. Now that many mid-bosses throw all kinds of poison orbs at you, it is even more important to have more sources of heart orbs (Neptune of Zeus Mercury comes to mind).
Also, andromeda have wayyy better stats. 2985 / 1238 / 578 is just amazing for a healer.

The more I think about it the more I don't think I would use Andromeda on my team. Changing away light is too unfortunate, since it makes the one-two punch of Sun Quan active, then Ruka+Valkyrie on the first turn and Gabriel on the second turn unusable. The extra damage from the additional row might make up for that to some extend, but the colors just don't work. I still would like one so I can run an I&I team eventually, but it's not a priority. Maybe that's just me trying to rationalize her away because I don't have one. Without her my team has 50k HP and seven rows, and with her it would have 52k and eight rows, which is actually kind of negligible. The extra skillboost, lock resist, and time extend are nice though.

What do we think of using her as a leader? Would Andromeda+I&I have any merit? Maybe Andromeda/Gabriel/Valkyrie/Sharon/Sun Quan/I&I? I've never played a hero god, but I guess at that point you'd probably be better off abandoning the healer theme and just going all-blue with two Andromeda leads.

Yes, the difference might be in how mine's I&I lead and yours Gab. When I use SQ, I just use the first turn to arrange the board a bit so that I can go for 3 rows on the 2nd turn, so usually I just use Gab+BlueValk or Ruka+BlueValk but not all three on two separate turns.
There has been a few times during descent that I had used Ruka for the heartmaking, but also a few times where I hoped she did heartmaking+bluemaking so I can finish off this wave while recovering.

As for Andromeda+I&I, well I can't think of many blue orb changers that aren't healers, Hermes is one, but most are healers which made Blue Healers so viable in the first place anyways. It's just a matter of throwing SQ in or using I&I, I'd lean towards I&I cause' my pluses are on them but theoretically would SQ be the better choice?

Oops, I mis-remembered how her active works. Because it changes red to blue, whereas I thought it changed light to blue, it actually works exactly the same as the setup I have now, I'd just have to have Gabriel go first. At that point the only real concern is the lack of healing oomph from her orbchange, since it makes less hearts which actually does matter to a stall team. However, the time extend would hopefully boost my combo count by just enough to bring more hearts onto the board naturally and heal a little more every time I match hearts to make up for it.

I can't imagine a single colour->heart not being enough to recover to full on a healers team with 4x rcv...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 27, 2014, 05:56:09 AM
Yes, the difference might be in how mine's I&I lead and yours Gab. When I use SQ, I just use the first turn to arrange the board a bit so that I can go for 3 rows on the 2nd turn, so usually I just use Gab+BlueValk or Ruka+BlueValk but not all three on two separate turns.

I've never learned how to do three rows. Arranging the board game be a little questionable sometimes because Beyzul is so fragile, but arranging then changing is probably a great idea that I never do. I imagine that should make it so I can one-shot nearly anything in the game and would make taking two shots obsolete. Although to be fair the only times I tend to need two attacks are when the board is sub-optimal anyway, so it probably wouldn't be right to pull off three rows if I need to do that.

As for Andromeda+I&I, well I can't think of many blue orb changers that aren't healers, Hermes is one, but most are healers which made Blue Healers so viable in the first place anyways.

I could see playing both Valkyrie and Siegfried for the consistency.

It's just a matter of throwing SQ in or using I&I, I'd lean towards I&I cause' my pluses are on them but theoretically would SQ be the better choice?

Hard to say, since again I've never played a hero god team. I'm inclined to always go with Sun Quan because I can't turn down delay, but the extra row might make a huge difference on a spike team that's heavily row-based. No idea really. And at the rate ultimate evolutions have been power creeping I expect Sun Quan's ultimate evolution to be the most ludicrously powerful thing ever when he finally gets it.

I can't imagine a single colour->heart not being enough to recover to full on a healers team with 4x rcv...

My team is 2/4/2. I use Gabriel and I&I as my leaders. x2 recovery is not necessarily enough to heal back up to full with just one set of hearts if I'm hurt very badly, and the important thing with Ruka is being able to heal back up to full one turn while still leaving enough hearts behind to heal a lot on the next turn. That's pretty much the only way to stall for a long time against something that hits for 20k+ a turn, at least for me. But again, the higher damage output and time extend would probably make up for that and then some, so I don't know that it matters.

On the very rare double Gabriel team Andromeda is almost certainly better than Ruka, but since that team has two blue+heartmakers by default it probably doesn't run another orbchanger anyway (the only time I ever use it is a specialized mostly-heartmakers one for Legendary Seaway, but I've considered Gabe/Hera-Is/Hera-Is/Metatron/Noah/Gabe if I had a Metatron for a few dungeons).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 27, 2014, 06:52:39 AM
I've never learned how to do three rows. Arranging the board game be a little questionable sometimes because Beyzul is so fragile, but arranging then changing is probably a great idea that I never do. I imagine that should make it so I can one-shot nearly anything in the game and would make taking two shots obsolete. Although to be fair the only times I tend to need two attacks are when the board is sub-optimal anyway, so it probably wouldn't be right to pull off three rows if I need to do that.

Actually I can clear most stuff with 2 rows too with enough blue orbs :V 3 rows are overkill for most cases so don't worry too much.

I could see playing both Valkyrie and Siegfried for the consistency.

I went to look at some people's Andromeda team, they put stuff like Karin or Blue Sonia, both of which I don't have :V so whatever.
I think most would prefer a Hatsume over Siegfried to pair up with Karin though.

My team is 2/4/2. I use Gabriel and I&I as my leaders. x2 recovery is not necessarily enough to heal back up to full with just one set of hearts if I'm hurt very badly, and the important thing with Ruka is being able to heal back up to full one turn while still leaving enough hearts behind to heal a lot on the next turn. That's pretty much the only way to stall for a long time against something that hits for 20k+ a turn, at least for me. But again, the higher damage output and time extend would probably make up for that and then some, so I don't know that it matters.

Oh. Our priorities are kind of different because I&I's active would make my team 1.8/13.5/1 for 6 out of 9 turns, giving it decent attack power along with a fair amount of hp, so when I use Gabriel's active, I'm intending to combo as much as possible so that I recover to full health while hopefully killing the boss (usually can do 1 blue row + 1 blue combo), otherwise I can still take one more hit and kill it on the following turn. For your team, your first priority is survival so you'd want Ruka more.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 27, 2014, 09:07:10 AM
Cauchemar time! This looks totally doable with Ceres.

If I can get any Ceres friends to appear.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 27, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
oh shit wait

i just realized takeru might totally get some good shit now

plz get another row i would love another orb change
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 27, 2014, 01:36:00 PM
Just cleared Cauchemar Legend with Ronia. If you have at least 20k hp it's super easy!
The best part is that Lilith's supposed rage attack makes you IMMORTAL since it gives you heart orbs  :V

Too bad it didn't drop....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 27, 2014, 02:13:10 PM
2 pluses > 1 plus (https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/548843628466933760), fuck you Star Vault, you worthless piece of crap.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 27, 2014, 02:22:56 PM
2 pluses > 1 plus (https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/548843628466933760), fuck you Star Vault, you worthless piece of crap.

I don't know, I was doing just fine on Star Vault myself yesterday. Ten +s from 120 stamina.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 27, 2014, 03:03:25 PM
I don't know, I was doing just fine on Star Vault myself yesterday. Ten +s from 120 stamina.

10 pluses from 4 runs, when I got 2 pluses from 6 runs total...

massive kek
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 27, 2014, 03:04:57 PM
It looks like a certain someone has been waiting very eagerly for Cauchemar to arrive in NA

(http://i.imgur.com/y3NBge3.png)

EDIT: that was one hell of a close call, apparently cauchemar loves to spam binds

(http://i.imgur.com/B3lDt9N.png) (http://i.imgur.com/3niWatm.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on December 27, 2014, 04:13:45 PM
Cauchemar get.   Now to get a few dozen more.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 27, 2014, 06:58:53 PM
My phone has been acting up with phantom screen presses on the bottom. Playing pad is pretty difficult.  I'm pretty frustrated since I've never broken a phone before, but my dog broke this one months back and now it's acting up again after repair.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 27, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
I don't know, I was doing just fine on Star Vault myself yesterday. Ten +s from 120 stamina.

Six to ten is about what I get as well tbh.

I act surprised everytime all the same to be nice to it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 27, 2014, 11:14:07 PM
Athena team's almost done. Need one more Fat Dragon and to top off another couple snow globes and I'm finished. Well, and a dozen more Wind Chasers in Meimei's face. All those globes have been a godsend. This would've taken forever without them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 28, 2014, 12:13:40 AM
Managed to 0-stone Valk Mythical somehow, but didn't get a jewel invade. And I don't particularly feel like trying again tonight; need more HP/RCV. Since I kind of need to slot in Orochi to allow for TPA spam to happen after 3grav + 2MS, I necessarily have to take out Grape Dragon (or replace a grav with Zeus Stratios but that would take longer), so I need more levels on stuff to make up for not having a heartmaker. :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 28, 2014, 12:17:53 AM
aaaaagggghhhh there are still no Awoken Ceres friends even after sending friend requests across Padherder and puzzledragonx.

this is balls. Can't run Cauchemar at this rate and I almost have full stamina.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 28, 2014, 12:47:29 AM
After about $12 in stones and a few multi-stone failure-to-drop rounds, I finally have Cauchemar.

It's gonna be pretty cool, to be honest-- I don't even have to evolve him because I already see healer Astaroth as the superior partner for him-- just think-- 4/6.25/1 with really high RCV compared to the same with very low RCV but a bit more strength. It'll be a decent green team!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 28, 2014, 12:59:52 AM
I somehow 2-turned Valk on Mythical. I didn't realize I could take off over 95% of her healthbar in one shot with a bit of luck.

(http://i.imgur.com/537cZ7U.png) (http://i.imgur.com/6sfiyhu.png)

The real challenge begins when godfest arrives...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 28, 2014, 01:03:20 AM
How are you breaking 20k health?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 28, 2014, 01:07:35 AM
HOLYYYYYYYYYY........ The stats of the new jp uevos are out!

Wood/Fire Liu Bei got THREE TPA!! Hello, overpowered GZL sub! Just him + the 2 leaders would deal a RIDICULOUS amount of damage....

Please, please, please let the next godfest be 3 kingdoms...... between him and Lu Bu (now i'm really hyped about HIS and Pandora's uevos, when they finally decide to reveal them  :V) i'm gonna go broke.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 28, 2014, 01:13:45 AM
How are you breaking 20k health?

Leilans hypermaxed, Bastet+Zhydra+Athena are big hp sticks and have actively solved my HP problem for the time being.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 28, 2014, 01:22:09 AM
Amberjack uvo requires a blue orb.

Good Liu Bei uvo (G/F, which is Dragon/Attacker) gets three TPAs and requires 2 red dragon fruits (no orbs, thankfully).

Don't feel like sorting out through the dragon ball stuff just... Gohan, Goku, Trunks, Gotenks (Who was just released) and Vegeta now have skillup mats in the form of the dragon balls themselves.

Also, for the guys that are worried about Bulma and how she's exclusive to android... she's a healer/dragon that's BB, bind immune with 1 bind heal awakening, 1800 HP, 856 ATK and 410 rcv, LS is x2.5 atk for healer types and her active skill is "spawn 7 random light orbs", on a 15~10 turn cd. Note that she's B/B but spawns light orbs. :c
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 28, 2014, 02:20:39 AM
HOLYYYYYYYYYY........ The stats of the new jp uevos are out!

Wood/Fire Liu Bei got THREE TPA!! Hello, overpowered GZL sub! Just him + the 2 leaders would deal a RIDICULOUS amount of damage....

Please, please, please let the next godfest be 3 kingdoms...... between him and Lu Bu (now i'm really hyped about HIS and Pandora's uevos, when they finally decide to reveal them  :V) i'm gonna go broke.....

Idk man. At this point, you might want to think about using the Liu Bei as the leader and Zhuge as the sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 28, 2014, 02:28:22 AM
Idk man. At this point, you might want to think about using the Liu Bei as the leader and Zhuge as the sub.

It's situational, but I'd say GZL myself just because much easier to upkeep and a higher multiplier for the entire team.

Also 2 more skill boost.

Liu Bei's active is a nice thing to have two of however, and he could make a mixed row/tpa team unlike GZL.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 28, 2014, 05:05:02 AM
Idk man. At this point, you might want to think about using the Liu Bei as the leader and Zhuge as the sub.

It's situational, but I'd say GZL myself just because much easier to upkeep and a higher multiplier for the entire team.

Also 2 more skill boost.

Liu Bei's active is a nice thing to have two of however, and he could make a mixed row/tpa team unlike GZL.

Is it harder to be less than 80% HP or more than 50% HP? x16 > x12.25 is significant to be sure but I think both have their pros and cons, plus G/L Liu Bei's LS gives Attackers an HP bonus. Actually it's like LTron LS, except that Liu Bei's HP bonus is x1.35... (higher than LTron)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 28, 2014, 05:28:31 AM
Hmm, looks like Challenge Dungeon is back. Can an Athena team handle round six? Seems like maybe it could, but the pre-emptives on the last couple of floors are rough. And it's not like I particularly have a use for the reward, although it might be nice to hold on to just in case.

But more importantly for me, the next coin dungeon rotation has Dragon Knights! Hooraaaay! I have 30 million gold, I think I got this. Hopefully relatively quickly so as not to overlap with events too badly.

Oh yeah, and Athena's dungeon is finally back. Could use me some skillups.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 28, 2014, 05:45:40 AM
Is it harder to be less than 80% HP or more than 50% HP? x16 > x12.25 is significant to be sure but I think both have their pros and cons, plus G/L Liu Bei's LS gives Attackers an HP bonus. Actually it's like LTron LS, except that Liu Bei's HP bonus is x1.35... (higher than LTron)

It depends, but overall i would say more than 50% hp from running with ame no chokezume all the time.

Like I said though, I'd -say- situational which is better.

Also fun fact I 'found' earlier today.

Healing over your limit is much harder when your leader buffs hp.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2014, 06:12:50 AM
another free fruit dragon! o/

For anyone with an Isis I highly reccomend grape dragon :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on December 28, 2014, 07:07:16 AM
EU Godfest announced.

3-day, all with n o r n s

And overlaps with HEARTS AND CLUBS so uh

ready your wallets.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 28, 2014, 09:42:32 AM
n o r n s

f u c k
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 28, 2014, 09:59:17 AM
It depends, but overall i would say more than 50% hp from running with ame no chokezume all the time.

Like I said though, I'd -say- situational which is better.

Also fun fact I 'found' earlier today.

Healing over your limit is much harder when your leader buffs hp.

Yeah, pretty much.

But I've had experience with running both styles of play because I run both Light Metatron AND Dark Metatron (funny how that works!) so I can see the perks and annoyances of both. When you're below threshold with above-HP leaders it can disrupt the flow of the battle much harder than if you healed over threshold because with the former you're doing 0 damage and at the danger of dying, whereas with the latter you can kinda bait in at least a hit more easily, though of course the matter is complicated where timers are involved.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 28, 2014, 11:56:18 AM
So I was messing around in TEC some more in the wee hours of the morning, and actually managed to make it to Olympios with an oddity. I kept messing up the burst on Valk, and she went Resurrection>Shield>Resurrection>Resurrection>Double Slash>Double Slash>Dead. I didn't think I'd ever see the day I'd make her run out of Resurrections and actually kill her, but somehow this made her skip Gleipnir entirely???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 28, 2014, 07:30:54 PM
Tried Cauchemar earlier and didn't quite make it. It's pretty rough. I would've won if not for the goddamn motherfucking half damage on the boss because the game hates me for not playing a light or dark team, but whatever. The combo requirement is obviously an attempt to balance out rows, which I respect. They're strong and easy to use, and combo shields don't completely counter them, just hurt them. I managed to get him down to ~20% and maaaybe could've won with a stone, but I'm not too worried about it. And I think Athena would probably do much better once I get that finished, although the Shieldras might be tricky. It seems like a decently-designed dungeon with decent reward, and that's pretty good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 28, 2014, 10:28:14 PM
Looks like I'm done with the Gungho Collab for a while.


What to do with the extra stamina. I think I'll shoot for the Jewel Tower, since I want Dublits, and the have a decent +egg rate.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on December 29, 2014, 03:51:51 AM
New Year Godfest is 3 days worth of Godfest.
With Egyptian 1 and 2 Gods on the last day.

Non-IAP players are like, regretting their Christmas Rolls.  :qq:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2014, 03:58:04 AM
orochi time

...although norns arent on the first day why
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on December 29, 2014, 04:01:06 AM
Eh.  Happy with my Christmas results so I'm fine.  Each fest will return later so I'm not concerned.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 29, 2014, 04:25:52 AM
The one person here who was 3/3 on gold eggs doesn't mind so much. I'll have one roll by then, probably.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
Oh shit, Norses and Heroes together? That sounds like a recipe for blue healer success. Think I get my 200 day login around then, hopefully before. I should have at least two pulls, maybe 3-5 under optimal conditions.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: triangles on December 29, 2014, 04:46:31 AM
New Year Godfest is 3 days worth of Godfest.
With Egyptian 1 and 2 Gods on the last day.

Non-IAP players are like, regretting their Christmas Rolls.  :qq:
With my 8 or 9 rolls I forget  I got chibivalk, chibisuzaku (for MJP waifu points) two Kirins and a Santa Kirin as the ~grand finale~ so I'll take that over the inevitable G O L E M F E S T I'd have gotten.

Of course, I need to remember to log on for the dragon dungeons to level up all my shit so I can really start running things whoops.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 29, 2014, 05:04:04 AM
G O L E M F E S T

I am almost completely sure that they already removed golems from the REM :V /shot
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on December 29, 2014, 05:14:27 AM
I am almost completely sure that they already removed golems from the REM :V /shot

I wish. I got a gold midguard the other day, and an ADK before that. They should get rid of that IMO. When you see that gold egg pop out , you should get hyped, but instead, I always tell myself, "nope, you gotta wait," it could be a crappy gold.

As for the non-IAP christmas stuff. I knew what I was in for and I was prepared for all the chibis. I should probably roll at least once though, even if I pretty much gave up on fielding a blue healer team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2014, 06:46:14 AM
Oh man so many things on my REM wishlist in this godfest

Orochi, Blue Valk, Red Valk, Bodin, Rodin, Godin, Hino, Kali, Chrono Turtle, U&Y Yomi, Susano, Kushi, Izanagi, Skuld


just missing one little thing

one tiny little thing

gunghopls


Also tried Cauchemar and Mephisto Mythical and screwed up narrowly on both. Died on Amon and Luci after just not dealing enough damage.

Been trying Nut as a sub though and she's amazing. The damage boost from the +orbs and TPA is significant and not killing any colors is great. If only she was max skilled as well then we'd really be talking with dat 4 turn cooldown.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 29, 2014, 07:02:58 AM
If only she was max skilled as well then we'd really be talking with dat 4 turn cooldown.

better start farming bubpy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2014, 07:08:13 AM
I'm saving Bubpy for Muse since his skill up material is a lot harder to farm. Masks are pretty easy to get other than the fact that it's 50/50 on which one you get
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 29, 2014, 07:16:12 AM
Oh right that rotation is a thing isnt it oops
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 29, 2014, 08:39:32 AM
I'm saving Bubpy for Muse since his skill up material is a lot harder to farm. Masks are pretty easy to get other than the fact that it's 50/50 on which one you get

not to mention that NA haven't finished the Insect Dragon biweeklies yet so it's gonna be a couple of months before it even gets the beef bowl dragons, so yeah saving the Bubpy probably is a smart idea there
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 29, 2014, 09:03:47 AM
hey guess what
TAMADRApurin skill up
thanks to that random Ceres that let me clear Challenge 7

And then there were three more to go.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on December 29, 2014, 09:07:06 AM
hey guess what
TAMADRApurin skill up
thanks to that random Ceres that let me clear Challenge 7

And then there were three more to go.

the descend challenges are a good way to harvest Pys and rewards too, once they get to NA
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2014, 01:28:14 PM
Aw man, my 200 day login bonus hits one day after the godfest I want. Well that sucks. I should still be able to get four pulls by then, so that's something.

Also, at this point my max stamina is high enough that I have no excuse for playing PAD first thing after I wake up. Lost on Blackgate Prison Master just now because I forgot to use my leader swap against Bane, leaving him at a sliver of life. And my combo count is noticeably lower. Went back through and cleared it with Athena though, so that's my first real dungeon ever run with her, and my first dungeon cleared with her. Neat.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 29, 2014, 01:33:15 PM
Also, at this point my max stamina is high enough that I have no excuse for playing PAD first thing after I wake up.

Interestingly enough, this is actually why I've been rushing ranks as hard as I have, so that I can just go for longer amounts of time without needing to touch PAD, so I can just zero it out during 30 minutes of free time and then wait like half the day and the bar still won't be full. Works great when you're livin da busy lyfe.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2014, 01:46:56 PM
Interestingly enough, this is actually why I've been rushing ranks as hard as I have, so that I can just go for longer amounts of time without needing to touch PAD, so I can just zero it out during 30 minutes of free time and then wait like half the day and the bar still won't be full. Works great when you're livin da busy lyfe.

If I actually added up the money PAD has cost me by causing me to be late for work I would basically be a whale. :derp: I'm just lucky I'm hourly right now or I'd have to account for that time somehow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2014, 04:31:16 PM
so uh

no fruit dragon ???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 29, 2014, 04:35:15 PM
[09:49] <Chirei> jesus fuck
[09:50] <Chirei> I did not think I could beat that in a million years
[09:50] <Chirei> But apparently a million years have passed

(http://i.imgur.com/oIIU84f.png) (http://i.imgur.com/8zsjJeA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/SeC0sTm.png)

0-stone with just a Lv99 R/L friend. Feels good that I don't need to ride off hypermax all the time to live. Came way too down to the wire with his HP and almost ate the god bind though. Just glad it's over now. Also surprised that I was able to take out the remainder of Sandalphon's health while he was Light with one 7star. Leilan way too good.

Also a bonus during that run (Replaced Uriel/Gabe/Mike wave):

(http://i.imgur.com/x5IwZU3.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 29, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
[09:49] <Chirei> jesus fuck
[09:50] <Chirei> I did not think I could beat that in a million years
[09:50] <Chirei> But apparently a million years have passed

(http://i.imgur.com/oIIU84f.png) (http://i.imgur.com/8zsjJeA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/SeC0sTm.png)

0-stone with just a Lv99 R/L friend. Feels good that I don't need to ride off hypermax all the time to live. Came way too down to the wire with his HP and almost ate the god bind though. Just glad it's over now. Also surprised that I was able to take out the remainder of Sandalphon's health while he was Light with one 7star. Leilan way too good.

Also a bonus during that run (Replaced Uriel/Gabe/Mike wave):

(http://i.imgur.com/x5IwZU3.png)

I don't think it can get much better than that! Congrats ;)

If anyone is interested, 100% safe team for Stage 6 of Challenge dungeon (Badpy reward): Godin - Hera - Hera - AA Lucifer - High Dark Ninja - Amaterasu (obviously you can switch for equivalent or better subs, just check how much autoheal you have)

Really, dropping GOdin on my first godfest was probably the best thing to ever happen to me in PAD (dropping Ronia is a close second :V).....
ODIN'S ABS TOO STRONK 8)

Oh, and i finally have a reliable KoG farm team! Gotta drop about 1 billion dub-mythlit... >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 29, 2014, 06:00:06 PM
>2.5x skill up rate

>Andromeda 0/4 blue fairies skill up

screw this crap I'm getting my blue pys ready D:< (Just need to get a few more from the current descent challenges)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2014, 06:19:01 PM
Would anybody with China know-how mind looking at my box and recommending a Meimei team? I figure since I got her maxed I might as well have that in my back pocket. How does Meimei/Kali/Durga/Light Valk/Asgard/Meimei sound? I have never used a China leader ever, so I could be way off.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 29, 2014, 06:31:29 PM
Can maybe try GZL/Athena/Valk/Durga for maximum swinging, slot in asgard or some heartmaker if you need utility.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2014, 06:33:18 PM
If your Meimei is G/L for Athena then she's not really that great of a leader. Might as well just use your Kali as the leader :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2014, 06:42:34 PM
Can maybe try GZL/Athena/Valk/Durga for maximum swinging, slot in asgard or some heartmaker if you need utility.

Sounds plausible, and then I have to level even fewer things.

If your Meimei is G/L for Athena then she's not really that great of a leader. Might as well just use your Kali as the leader :V

Yeah, fair enough. I would honestly not mind having two Meimeis so I could have both, but I don't. That being the case I just need to powerlevel Durga and Kali and then I suddenly have a million more viable teams. They're up next.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2014, 06:49:01 PM
also reminder to all that Challenge Lv 5 is the py apocalypse


man i cant remember if I've already 0 stoned or 1 stoned sandyphone the first time

i think it might have been a 1 stone because of either getting heart orb trolled or not doing enough damage to sandals himself

it looks easy enough though unless you get micheal
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 29, 2014, 07:00:42 PM
Racking up pulls at the Pal Machine and ended up with 1 Chaser and another Keeper which is good for me and a Divine Mask, makes me wonder how much data does my PADherder have to hold for all of this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 29, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
>2.5x skill up rate

>Andromeda 0/4 blue fairies skill up

screw this crap I'm getting my blue pys ready D:< (Just need to get a few more from the current descent challenges)

(http://i.imgur.com/29eJzrG.png)(http://i.imgur.com/bGCWiSs.png)

If I don't do this while I salty at 0/4 blue fairies skillup I'll be faltering forever and never do it.
I don't care if the next questionnaire's gonna be blue fairies anymore. She's worth the pys. Let her have it.
If descent challenges continue to be a thing, pys aren't that rare anymore anyways.

edit: and of course, right after all these I fed a Zeus to another one I don't care at all and he gets the skillup. I swear this game knows what matters to you and what doesn't. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 29, 2014, 07:15:10 PM
Which is why I adopt the "Might as well" attitude.

"Eh, might as well dumo the stamina on OoH"

"Eh, might as well run Tower to the Sky for a while."

"Eh, might as well do this descended."

"Eh, I might as well give one roll."

It works... sometimes. And when it doesn't you just don't feel as frustrated about it :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 29, 2014, 07:37:13 PM
Sounds plausible, and then I have to level even fewer things.

I've seen someone do every descend in the game with a +99 ATK R/L Leilan as a leader so you can still lead with G/L Meimei, you just have a stiffer activation.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on December 29, 2014, 08:33:42 PM
Gungho you ruddy vampires.... you really want all my money, don't you!

Now i have to decide which day of the godfest i should burn all my stones.... and of course there is also the lingering ghost of D/L Batman that will taunt me!

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2014, 03:56:50 AM
Seriously, fuck Sandalphon. Which is to say actually, fuck Michael in Sandalphon. He's basically just a "Did the game decide you have to auto-lose because it hasn't released ultimate evolutions for some of your party members yet?" floor. And I've gotten him three times in a row today. And for added bonus fun times, apparently all but two of my +297 I&I friends either haven't logged on in three weeks or have permanently switched to fucking Red Sonia, so I have to wait around for hours and hours every time I want to try again.

This is yet another situation where I feel like the game is unfairly fucking me over for not playing a light or dark team, because it wouldn't be impossible to just burst Michael down under normal circumstances, but I'm probably not going to crack 1.2 million defense without either expending all of my skills and being out of fuel for Raphael and Sandalphon, and/or swapping to Beyzul too early and being unable to switch back because skilling him up to the required level is next to impossible. Ugh. I don't mind losing, I really don't, but when it repeatedly feels like it's nothing I can do anything about it's very frustrating. Hell, if the Michael fight was the only possibility for that floor it would be better because I probably just wouldn't attempt the dungeon right now, but since in theory I'm not supposed to get it every single time I feel like I should keep trying.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on December 30, 2014, 04:16:29 AM
Seriously, fuck Sandalphon. Which is to say actually, fuck Michael in Sandalphon. He's basically just a "Did the game decide you have to auto-lose because it hasn't released ultimate evolutions for some of your party members yet?" floor. And I've gotten him three times in a row today. And for added bonus fun times, apparently all but two of my +297 I&I friends either haven't logged on in three weeks or have permanently switched to fucking Red Sonia, so I have to wait around for hours and hours every time I want to try again.

This is yet another situation where I feel like the game is unfairly fucking me over for not playing a light or dark team, because it wouldn't be impossible to just burst Michael down under normal circumstances, but I'm probably not going to crack 1.2 million defense without either expending all of my skills and being out of fuel for Raphael and Sandalphon, and/or swapping to Beyzul too early and being unable to switch back because skilling him up to the required level is next to impossible. Ugh. I don't mind losing, I really don't, but when it repeatedly feels like it's nothing I can do anything about it's very frustrating. Hell, if the Michael fight was the only possibility for that floor it would be better because I probably just wouldn't attempt the dungeon right now, but since in theory I'm not supposed to get it every single time I feel like I should keep trying.
Is your team good enough to take a sub out to make room for something with a defense-ignoring flat damage skill if you own anything like that?  (I.e. UFO, anything with Solar Lazer, etc.)  I don't know if any Mythical dungeons are the sorts where doing that is even remotely feasible without screwing yourself over for the other stages...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on December 30, 2014, 04:24:37 AM
Is your team good enough to take a sub out to make room for something with a defense-ignoring flat damage skill if you own anything like that?  (I.e. UFO, anything with Solar Lazer, etc.)  I don't know if any Mythical dungeons are the sorts where doing that is even remotely feasible without screwing yourself over for the other stages...

A shield also works and is a more flexible sub than putting in a def-ignore since Michael is 1/3 chance.
Just shield the largest damage and he loops back to his first attack I think, so you basically gets double the turns.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 30, 2014, 04:27:49 AM
Are you sure? Most bosses tend to just spam their strongest attack forever

also sandalphone 0 stoned :derp:


meanwhile I don't think challenge lv 6 is possible without chester, unless somehow you can stall for 10 turns with no heart orbs...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2014, 04:39:35 AM
Is your team good enough to take a sub out to make room for something with a defense-ignoring flat damage skill if you own anything like that?  (I.e. UFO, anything with Solar Lazer, etc.)  I don't know if any Mythical dungeons are the sorts where doing that is even remotely feasible without screwing yourself over for the other stages...

I own a shitload of Ras, but none of them are leveled. I'd be hesitant to sub out one of the blue guys on my mono-blue team for a light guy to deal with a 1-in-3 chance, but it'd be better than doing nothing and complaining about it I guess. If they were leveled.

A shield also works and is a more flexible sub than putting in a def-ignore since Michael is 1/3 chance.
Just shield the largest damage and he loops back to his first attack I think, so you basically gets double the turns.

I don't think Michael works that way, does he? Not that it probably matters, because one more turn would almost certainly be enough to kill him. In theory a shield would be amazing against Raphael too, which would virtually guarantee I could kill Sandy effortlessly if I went in with all of my skills up, but I don't believe I own a light shield and subbing in a non-blue, non-healer guy on my blue healer team sounds pretty sketchy.
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Post by: Thaws on December 30, 2014, 04:54:19 AM
I own a shitload of Ras, but none of them are leveled. I'd be hesitant to sub out one of the blue guys on my mono-blue team for a light guy to deal with a 1-in-3 chance, but it'd be better than doing nothing and complaining about it I guess. If they were leveled.

I don't think Michael works that way, does he? Not that it probably matters, because one more turn would almost certainly be enough to kill him. In theory a shield would be amazing against Raphael too, which would virtually guarantee I could kill Sandy effortlessly if I went in with all of my skills up, but I don't believe I own a light shield and subbing in a non-blue, non-healer guy on my blue healer team sounds pretty sketchy.
I just checked and he DOES work that way essentially giving you 4 more turns. And the descended in general doesn't throw large numbers at you so one less blue might not hurt that badly. I actually use bastet/kushi for this instead of my blue healers so iuno. Kushi is awesome for the michael matchup because of this.

Or you can just use SQ here. Raphael is a problem but sandy is easy to stall till he's almost to 50% to one-shot.

Suikama, I did lv6 set 2 by DMeta, wave 4 makes lots of enhanced dark orb and use half to kill it, save half on the bottom with a checkerboard pattern and use the rest to ohko LIza. It's risky but it worked :V!!
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Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2014, 04:59:16 AM
I just checked and he DOES work that way essentially giving you 4 more turns. And the descended in general doesn't throw large numbers at you so one less blue might not hurt that badly. I actually use bastet/kushi for this instead of my blue healers so iuno. Kushi is awesome for the michael matchup because of this.

Or you can just use SQ here. Raphael is a problem but sandy is easy to stall till he's almost to 50% to one-shot.

Suikama, I did lv6 set 2 by DMeta, wave 4 makes lots of enhanced dark orb and use half to kill it, save half on the bottom with a checkerboard pattern and use the rest to ohko LIza. It's risky but it worked :V!!

Interesting. I don't have anything on hand to do that deed per se, but that sounds like it would work.

Sandy does seem easy to stall, but I have traumatic memories of the last time I fought him a month or so ago and kept getting like 12x skyfalls every single turn and bumped him past half way too fast. I still almost beat him because I stalled out his bind with the help of Ruka, but I didn't quite make it. But yeah, if I get to him I'm pretty confident I'll win.
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Post by: Suikama on December 30, 2014, 05:11:59 AM
Suikama, I did lv6 set 2 by DMeta, wave 4 makes lots of enhanced dark orb and use half to kill it, save half on the bottom with a checkerboard pattern and use the rest to ohko LIza. It's risky but it worked :V!!
...how did you take a 21k hit while at 1% hp and no rcv though
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Post by: Thaws on December 30, 2014, 05:44:15 AM
...how did you take a 21k hit while at 1% hp and no rcv though

I... Don't rmb, it's been a few months since jp got set 2
I tooksome screenies though... Maybe I used pandora+Dmeta shield to take a hit?

(http://i.imgur.com/Ye5fUr5.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/rbcnMee.jpg)
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 30, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
heads up fruit dragons correctly at noon PST today
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 30, 2014, 08:09:23 PM
Fruit dragons are up.

YESSSS GOT STRAWBERRY ON THE FIRST TRY FUCK REROLLING STAMINA
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Post by: Suikama on December 30, 2014, 08:11:49 PM
I'm not doing the fruit dungeon yet because there's a chance I might get them all in the godfest anyways :V
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2014, 08:20:47 PM
Got my second lemon. Wanted melon, but didn't want to bother due to just wanting the stone.
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Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2014, 08:21:13 PM
Oh cool, fruits seem to be reset. Free stone? I was going to just take the first one because stamina is tight, but it was Grape Dragon and upon seeing it I realized how aggressively I don't need two Grape Dragons. I wouldn't mind two Strawberry or Blueberry and I don't have anyvof the other two, but not Grapey.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 30, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
[15:20] <Chirei> OH SHITTTT
[15:20] <Chirei> I DID IT

(http://i.imgur.com/Qm0xZGT.png)
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 03:18:53 AM
oh boy i am excite for this godfest


which means it can only go horribly wrong
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 31, 2014, 03:24:22 AM
THE HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE!!!!
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 04:40:50 AM
Zeus Mercury 0 stoned again. Got a blue jewel out of it too aw yiss

I don't think I actually need Doomsday since Neptune poison can just be handled with good RCV but eh. Hardest part is definitely Zeus himself since he has so much goddamn health. I'm so glad he supplies me with blue orb skyfalls :V


oh man got a hera skillup out of it too BV
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Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2014, 04:56:33 AM
Looks like, all things being well, I should have 20 stones for the Thursday godfest. Sucks that I won't have my 200 day login bonus quite yet then, but I guess I really should retain some stones for emergencies (especially Sun Quan skillup emergencies...), so I guess it's not all bad.

I plan on trying to clear Satan tomorrow with my shiny new Athena team. It looks like this right now:

Athena (max level, +0, skill level 1)
Verche (Level 95, +0, max skill)
Valkyrie (Level 77, +2, max skill, non-mega)
Meimei (Level 91, +2, skill level 4)
GZL (max level, +16, skill level 1)
Athena (max level, +297, skill level 1)

Assuming a hypermax Athena buddy, which I intend to bring, I have 25578 health.

Think I can do it? And if so is there anything I need to keep in mind or watch out for? I've been practicing Athena in True Endless Corridor and managing my skills appropriately has been kind of tricky because I don't really know how much damage the team does at a given number and color of prongs. The fact that I'm super effective against everything in the dungeon and nothing but Satan has much health has me confident, but I've never actually tried that dungeon so maybe I'm overlooking something.
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 05:10:40 AM
You'll melt through the stage itself like paper, so the hard part will actually be trying to stall without killing things to fast :V

Oh your valk will be pretty useless though if she's non mega since there are no hearts to break
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Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2014, 06:44:14 AM
You'll melt through the stage itself like paper, so the hard part will actually be trying to stall without killing things to fast :V

Oh your valk will be pretty useless though if she's non mega since there are no hearts to break

Ha ha good call. Well shit, that probably wouldn't have occurred to me. What'd you think to replace her then? I could do Echidna I guess, or mega Blue Valk for the extra skill boost and huge stats because she's hypermax, but that would make stalling even harder. Once again Kali would be pretty perfect here but she's nowhere near finiiiished.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 31, 2014, 06:54:36 AM
I just used Echidna. I hope everyone with skillboosts has them awakened otherwise you're in for a rough time.
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 06:56:47 AM
Might as well echinda. An extra 3 turns on Satan will probably make him a walk in the park and she's guaranteed up for him with all of your skill boosts so you don't actually have to stall at all.


Meanwhile I've just realized I can probably try Chrono Turtle out as a Muse replacement for now. They have the same typing and similar stats and awakenings. What Turtle lacks in damage with no TPA, pitiful attack, and no burst active, he makes up for with two time orb awakenings allowing for better combos and a CTW for burst.
With Nut, Turtle, and Grape dragon that's an extra 2 seconds which finally gives me as much orb time as a Horus/Ra+Yomi team. Hell he even has a skill lock resist so if I could get a Chester that's 80% skill lock resist...

...man if only Isis had better awakenings. All she needs is 1 TPA, 1 skill lock resist, and 1 orb time up awakening. With just 1 TPA she's have so much more synergy with Nut. With 1 skill lock resist she'd have 100% with Chester. And 1 orb time up because literally all of the other Egypt 1.0 have them like wtf.

So basically she just wants Bastet's awakenings added to her own. :V
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 08:16:07 AM
SPEAK OF THE DEVIL I JUST GOT RED CHESTER

AND MOTHERFUCKIN BLUE VALK AAAAAA

ALSO RONIA LMAOOOOO
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Post by: Chaore on December 31, 2014, 08:48:11 AM
SPEAK OF THE DEVIL I JUST GOT RED CHESTER

AND MOTHERFUCKIN BLUE VALK AAAAAA

ALSO RONIA LMAOOOOO

suikama plz

you've cursed us all now
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Post by: Invisible on December 31, 2014, 08:55:41 AM
SPEAK OF THE DEVIL I JUST GOT RED CHESTER

AND MOTHERFUCKIN BLUE VALK AAAAAA

ALSO RONIA LMAOOOOO
And here I am sitting, Ronia-less.
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Post by: Espadas on December 31, 2014, 09:27:53 AM
This godfest seems perfectly organized to screw with me..... i'm still not sure when i should use my stones.

Day 1
+ Orochi, Kushinada, Susanoo, Izanagi, U&Y.
+ Zero dupe chance from the pantheon gods
- no Norns
- no Red/Blue Odin

Day 2
+ Norns
+ Loki
+ no GZL dupe
- 3/5 dupes from Hero pantheon alone (and i don't need Wukong or Perseus)
- very situational Norse gods (i might use Freyr/Thor/Freya but only on teams i don't have ready atm)

Day 3
+ Norns
+ Egyptian 1 and 2  :V
- no Kali

I'm leaning toward using half on day 1 and half on day 3.....
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Post by: Bio on December 31, 2014, 09:47:34 AM
The plan is to roll 4/5ths of a Pandora team on day 2.
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Post by: Chaore on December 31, 2014, 09:56:11 AM
I'm leaning toward using half on day 1 and half on day 3.....

Go full in on Day 1 if that's what you're thinking :v
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Post by: trancehime on December 31, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/550208628427202562

Oh fuck me.
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Post by: Thaws on December 31, 2014, 12:11:31 PM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/550208628427202562

Oh fuck me.

Is that 1 turn left until LMeta's on? that sucks :(

I'm doing so bad today too.
Failed two Zeus Dios when I was clearing it 80% of the time last week on jewel hunting.
Sandy: Skyfall dark orbs on Raphael and couldn't kill him because of stupid absorb mechanics (in short, you can't overkill a boss so it can be lowered to 0 hp then absorb-heal back to positive)

Hope we have better luck next year :ohdear:
I definitely need it for the godfes :V
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Post by: trancehime on December 31, 2014, 12:16:17 PM
Is that 1 turn left until LMeta's on? that sucks :(


Yeah something like that. I couldn't use my burst when I got Athena to Storm Punisher range because it does 11K damage, which knocks me below 50%. Angelion was not up so I couldn't heal-stall to get LMeta up. Oh well
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 31, 2014, 12:43:10 PM
>get skillbound with 80% resist team in wednesday legend
>win anyway

alraune plz autoheal too gud
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Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2014, 02:04:52 PM
Just realized how devastating a China invade on Satan would be. Keep back Meimei, I don't want to talk to you right now.
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Post by: Yukarin on December 31, 2014, 02:15:14 PM
Just realized how devastating a China invade on Satan would be. Keep back Meimei, I don't want to talk to you right now.

in my second run Meimei invaded on the first floor and i got hit once

so i wiped everything and when I got to lilith I made a mistake matching dark orbs

and i got lucky because she did "Alluring" so i lived
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 31, 2014, 03:35:29 PM
Just realized how devastating a China invade on Satan would be. Keep back Meimei, I don't want to talk to you right now.

If she invades on F1 or F2 you should be okay, just eat a hit or two and sweep - the No RCV restriction should make it easy to beat her down, and the skillbind should wear off by the time you get to Satan. You probably don't need to use skills on anything else.
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 04:25:09 PM
okay so good news is i got a whole bunch of gold eggs woo

bad news is none of them were orochi or chrono turtle

also i spent all of my stones :derp:

sea serpent (yay...)
lilith (wow...)
golem (woo...)
BLUE VALK (OH SHIT YES)
KUSHI (!!)
RONIA (LMAO)
RED CHESTER (OH NOW YOU SHOW UP)
CHIYOME (STILL GOLD)
SHARON (THE GOLD EGGS DONT STOP)
TOYtops (okay they stopped)
BLACK VALK (NEVERMIND AAAAAA)
OKUNI (!?)
Drall (eh it's the only toy dragon I dont have I guess)
Another Sharon (Uh water rows all day?)
golem (welp)
light knight (no skillup rip)
Fire Dragon Swordsman
Green Guan Yu (MORE GOLD)

...and I'm out

someone please send help or stones preferably stones
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Post by: Yukarin on December 31, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
happy new year nerds
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Post by: Edible on December 31, 2014, 04:29:19 PM
Suikama actually rolled more than once or twice in a godfest, it's a goddamn new year's miracle

Ultra hyper jealous of red chester ;_;

Also give me your ronia.
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Post by: triangles on December 31, 2014, 04:38:33 PM
You have like 7 stop hogging them all!!!!
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
its not enough

i need moreeeee

someone pls help
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 31, 2014, 05:09:39 PM
a whole bunch of gold eggs

Dang. I thought you were saving all your stones for Muse - I couldn't imagine what you actually wanted out of this fest.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 31, 2014, 05:27:34 PM
I GOT LUCKY AND GOT SUSANO YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!  YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES MOTHER FUCKING YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 05:32:47 PM
Dang. I thought you were saving all your stones for Muse - I couldn't imagine what you actually wanted out of this fest.
Orochi, Chrono Turtle, Bodin, and Blue Valk were the mains ones

But also Hino, Susano, Yomi, U&Y, Kushi, Izanagi, Rodin, Godin, Kalis, Red Valk, and Ra
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Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2014, 05:34:04 PM
Satan was the easiest dungeon I've ever done... except that I lost because I forgot to activate Echidna and tgen got semi-trolled for light orbs for my Seven Star and subsequent turns. Oh well, I'll definitely win next timr barring a Meimeimergency.

Don't love the design of this dungeon. By the way it's made it will pretty much always be either impossible or effortless. Not that interesting.
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 05:37:10 PM
A lot of older dungeons are stupid like that

King of Gods, Hera, and the worst offender Endless Corridors
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Post by: Edible on December 31, 2014, 05:46:06 PM
I'm saving my yoloroll for tomorrow, I think.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 31, 2014, 05:50:32 PM
Went Satan once to see if I had any chance of beating it, left one of the krakens at like 1 HP so he triple strike'd me in the face but I survived, and since I have angelion I made some hearts to survive the other kraken (unsynced enemies, yaaaay).

F1 and F2 were easy, F3 was going to be really hard since I thought I needed Echidna's delay for the Vamp Lords, fortunately I got a 10 combo skyfall (including four matches of 3 lights) so Lilith went down easy.

Then I popped Echidna on the Vamp Lords and proceeded to one shot them because 5- light orb skyfall :derp:

AND THEN MEIMEI INVADED and I was like "you know what I need a green orb" unfortunately it took me 2 stones to get through her but eh.

Then Satan, popped ecchi and went to town on him. Preety easy if it wasn't for the chinese invade, but hey, I got my green jewel so w/e.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 31, 2014, 06:26:37 PM

AND THEN MEIMEI INVADED and I was like "you know what I need a green orb" unfortunately it took me 2 stones to get through her but eh.

Completely worth it imo.

Don't love the design of this dungeon. By the way it's made it will pretty much always be either impossible or effortless. Not that interesting.

Right there with you. No RCV was made for masochists
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Post by: Edible on December 31, 2014, 06:30:23 PM
Right there with you. No RCV was made for masochists

No RCV was made for kirin/u&y/etc. teams :V
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 06:43:08 PM
aaaaarg someone talk me out of iaping for more pulls ._.
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Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2014, 06:47:16 PM
Two stones for an orb is a deal normally. But right now I got an extra green orb and badly need all of my stones for tomorrow, so this is like the only time ever I don't want to see a China.

aaaaarg someone talk me out of iaping for more pulls ._.

Don't do iiiiit you need that miney for your retirement fund and to feed your baby don't spend that shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 06:49:55 PM
if i can get orochi though i might not even need Muse because i'll have so much water tpa aaaaaaaaa ;-;
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 31, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
orochi can wait
you can wait
plz
think of yo Isis babies

So as I got a third Wangren skill up I thought about an odd R/B Shiva > Wangren swap team that I could pair up with an actual R/D Shiva.

I mean I already have the two Ronias and I could -probably- get an uvo Hera-Ur to finish the set.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 31, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
if i can get orochi though i might not even need Muse because i'll have so much water tpa aaaaaaaaa ;-;
aaaand if you don't get Orochi you'll be even farther behind on GETTING Muse later.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 31, 2014, 07:51:11 PM
if you iap to get orochi you miss out on the chance to iap on day 3 for another isis
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Post by: Espadas on December 31, 2014, 08:17:22 PM
SUIKAMA LISTEN TO ME. DON'T ROLL FOR OROCHI.....

I finally decided to use most of my stones today and keep a few for the 3rd day..... Gold egg rate was awesome as usual, actual drops..... ::)

Kagutsuchi (can't complain)
Shaitan (CAN complain, and it's also a dupe)
Agdrall (bah.... at least i didn't have him yet)
Flame Guardian (oh come on.....)
Bearded Deity, Guan Yu (WHAAAAT????? MY THIRD GGY!  :()
Marine Rider (OHHH YEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!)
Light Kali (NOW WE ARE TALKING!)
Dragon Rider (not bad.... if only it was vector finn instead of arthur...)
Dark Valkyrie (WHAAAAT??? THE ONLY VALK I ALREADY HAD?!?! /cry )
Beast Rider (very funny game, now among the riders i literally only miss vector finn  :wat:)
Genie (-_-)
Amaterasu ( :V)
Green Zhuge Liang (ANOTHER SPECIAL GOD DUPE *suicide*)

Remember which gods i was aiming for today? Of course i got practically everyone bar them..... Marine Rider and Kali saved the day.

Oh and i had 7 yatagarasu stored in my box since forever in the tiny chance i dropped amaterasu.... guess what? ZERO skill up  :X
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Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2014, 08:26:35 PM
Satan beaten, that was kind of sad. And I finally skillmaxed my Lilith off of the one I dropped from the dungeon, so that's neat I guess. Most important is the stone, I'm at 18 now so I'm good to go for four pulls tomorrow.
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Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 09:37:35 PM
if you iap to get orochi you miss out on the chance to iap on day 3 for another isis
but then i still iap either way <_<
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 31, 2014, 09:48:24 PM
but then i still iap either way <_<
Well you don't really need another Isis so how about you skip that part and just save for Muse like you originally planned?  Some stones saved no could save you a ton of pain later, yes?  =D
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 31, 2014, 09:50:29 PM
but then i still iap either way <_<

but in this end you're with isis

~          t          r          u          e                              e          n          d          ~
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2014, 11:46:32 PM
bluh there's nothing i even want from the other two godfests really aside from Ra and another Isis

everything i really need is todayyyyyyy except for muse of course


oh yeah tomorrow is the first pengdra village after the buff that makes pengdras actually worthwhile
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on December 31, 2014, 11:58:18 PM
Updated Pengdras?  About time I got a crack at thosr.  Niiice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2015, 01:00:35 AM
also while time is ticking down

the bottom line of this godfest is we have triples now, so we will cycle through pantheons -much- faster.

This means for everyone wanting egypt 2.0 they'll be back possibly very soon and day 3 doesn't offer hearts and diamonds (Which contains a lot of very important cards at higher rates).

consider rolling day 1 or 2 over 3.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 01, 2015, 01:14:10 AM
Rolling Day 2 seems to be the best option, since it has Kali, Norns and Hearts & Diamonds combined, I'm just gonna do one yoloroll on day 2 though, because I have no need for japanese gods (With Miniluci in my repertoire, I have no need for Yomi, though having him would be cool) and day 3 doesn't interest me at all, though knowing my luck day 2 will just give me my third pandora or something. I'll totally settle for Andromeda or I&I though, I need a blue leader.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2015, 01:26:45 AM
also while time is ticking down

the bottom line of this godfest is we have triples now, so we will cycle through pantheons -much- faster.

This means for everyone wanting egypt 2.0 they'll be back possibly very soon and day 3 doesn't offer hearts and diamonds (Which contains a lot of very important cards at higher rates).

consider rolling day 1 or 2 over 3.
Hmm that's true. It probably won't take too long for Orochi to come back and hopefully by then Muse will be out. I also technically got what I wanted most out of hearts and diamonds which is Blue Valk. There's also Chrono Turtle but that's more for the sentimental value rather than usefulness, since if I ever get Muse then Chrono Turtle would get kicked out of the team right away.

Alright gungho if you want my money then GIVE US ARMORED KNIGHTS ALREADY GODDAMMIT HOW ARE NORNS OUT BUT STILL NO KNIGHTS


man i could use some stones for box space though cause i need a shitton of evo mats for all of these new guys
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2015, 01:32:23 AM
Rolling Day 2 seems to be the best option, since it has Kali, Norns and Hearts & Diamonds combined, I'm just gonna do one yoloroll on day 2 though, because I have no need for japanese gods (With Miniluci in my repertoire, I have no need for Yomi, though having him would be cool) and day 3 doesn't interest me at all, though knowing my luck day 2 will just give me my third pandora or something. I'll totally settle for Andromeda or I&I though, I need a blue leader.

yomi>miniluci into oblivion by virtue of having a far better active

and not being lucifer
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 01, 2015, 01:36:03 AM
yomi>miniluci into oblivion by virtue of having a far better active

and not being lucifer

But in my team, using Yomi means not having blue.

Which is bad, because I have no worthwhile blue subs that I know of that could go in a Horus team. At least none that aren't called siegfried.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 01, 2015, 01:42:01 AM
But in my team, using Yomi means not having blue.

Which is bad, because I have no worthwhile blue subs that I know of that could go in a Horus team. At least none that aren't called siegfried.

Hera-Is?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2015, 01:44:26 AM
my Isis says hi
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 01, 2015, 01:50:26 AM
Sacchi: If it means anything, Max Murai (popular JP player on JP's streams) was actually trying to do the same thing with mini luci for his horus team, so I think the idea can go places.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2015, 01:52:35 AM
But in my team, using Yomi means not having blue.

Which is bad, because I have no worthwhile blue subs that I know of that could go in a Horus team. At least none that aren't called siegfried.

Given siegfried breaks hearts (which horusu can't use) he's arguably a more useful blue slot than minluci

Lmetatron would also work for blue and helps deal with horus' rcv deficiency.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 01, 2015, 02:02:14 AM
I YOLO rolled once, as per usual, against my better judgement.

Oh, hi Blue Sonia.


well, fuck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2015, 02:51:57 AM
man everyone I got this godfest JUST HAD THEIR SKILL UPS DUNGEONS END

pirate dungeons were in the previous(?) coin rotation, gungho collab just ended, and poring tower wasn't too long ago arggggggggg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2015, 02:52:41 AM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/550484126311018496

0-stoned trifruits on my first attempt

ez lyfe

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/550490993489756160 2/5 Gold Egg rate today, got ROdin and LKali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 01, 2015, 03:21:46 AM
also while time is ticking down

the bottom line of this godfest is we have triples now, so we will cycle through pantheons -much- faster.

This means for everyone wanting egypt 2.0 they'll be back possibly very soon and day 3 doesn't offer hearts and diamonds (Which contains a lot of very important cards at higher rates).

consider rolling day 1 or 2 over 3.

Lol, i noticed the bit about hearts and diamonds 1 minute before reading your post. Add to it the fact that you are right about the fast cycling and i decided to use all my remaining stones today, which gave me:

Okuninushi
Apocalypse
Blue Valk (Ladies and gentlemen, BLUE HEALER AND ANDROMEDA TEAMS COMPLETE!  :toot:)
Kagutsuchi (lol dupe in the same godfest? >_>)

I'm keeping my spare GGY and GZL in the box in the off-chance someday i'll field them together with my main ones a-la-Ronia, while the 3rd GGY and dupe Dvalk have already become food, but what should i do with my dupe Kagutsuchi?
One will clearly become the Awoken uevo version but the dupe? Is it worth keeping/evolving or should i feed it away?

Oh and lol at getting Okuninushi.... if i dropped Ame no Uzume instead of the dupe Kagu i would have LITERALLY got all the pantheon gods except the ones i wanted  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2015, 03:42:43 AM
Lol, i noticed the bit about hearts and diamonds 1 minute before reading your post. Add to it the fact that you are right about the fast cycling and i decided to use all my remaining stones today, which gave me:

Okuninushi
Apocalypse
Blue Valk (Ladies and gentlemen, BLUE HEALER AND ANDROMEDA TEAMS COMPLETE!  :toot:)
Kagutsuchi (lol dupe in the same godfest? >_>)

I'm keeping my spare GGY and GZL in the box in the off-chance someday i'll field them together with my main ones a-la-Ronia, while the 3rd GGY and dupe Dvalk have already become food, but what should i do with my dupe Kagutsuchi?
One will clearly become the Awoken uevo version but the dupe? Is it worth keeping/evolving or should i feed it away?

Oh and lol at getting Okuninushi.... if i dropped Ame no Uzume instead of the dupe Kagu i would have LITERALLY got all the pantheon gods except the ones i wanted  :V

>Dvalk has already become food
>Complaining about Kagutsuchi when he literally just got a uvo thats a best R/D sub in the game

 :X
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2015, 03:47:33 AM
>Dvalk has already become food
>Complaining about Kagutsuchi when he literally just got a uvo thats a best R/D sub in the game

 :X

in short, yes, keeping two kagu is a fine idea

also in the future feeding dupe golds is not a terribly great idea.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 01, 2015, 04:00:22 AM
Dark Meta would love double dark Valkyries, I bet. As would Pandora.

I mean, 2Haku/2Hanzo is such a good core for both sets for a reason. Dark Valk can actually play off of Pandora's heartmaking.

That's my view. Of course it relies on Metatron or Pandora but they're -good-.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2015, 04:06:05 AM
Dark Meta would love double dark Valkyries, I bet. As would Pandora.

I mean, 2Haku/2Hanzo is such a good core for both sets for a reason. Dark Valk can actually play off of Pandora's heartmaking.

That's my view. Of course it relies on Metatron or Pandora but they're -good-.

Dark Valks are a double-edged sword for DMeta. Yes, they break hearts which is productive for DMeta's gameplan which requires being below 80% HP, but the problem is sometimes you do need to do a 3-match to survive pre-emptives, and Dark Valk's high RCV makes that a risky endeavor especially if RNG is not on your side and decides to give you 4 heart skyfalls

Pandora is much easier/better playmaker for DValk
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on January 01, 2015, 04:10:14 AM
Well, I looked at the Godfest drops and I saw Yomi and though "this looks cool, I want this"
since there is also this hearts and diamonds event, I though I try a roll. Literally "1" roll

This is all I can say (http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/9/92/Ss_inthebag_02.mp3)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 01, 2015, 04:35:19 AM
in short, yes, keeping two kagu is a fine idea

also in the future feeding dupe golds is not a terribly great idea.

I usually don't feed away gold eggs, but even after going around to check guides about Pandora and Dmeta they never suggest double Dvalk (double Hanzo yes, but not double Dvalk or Rider).... although in hindsight i probably should have kept her anyway.... #feelstupid
the 3rd GGY on the other hand i have no regrets..... don't like the guy apart for his awesome beard

and i wasn't complaining about getting Kagu (heck, his latest uevo is a beast), it was more about getting the same god 2 times in the same day while every single god i actually was hoping for was skillfully avoided  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 01, 2015, 05:27:29 AM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/550490993489756160 2/5 Gold Egg rate today, got ROdin and LKali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

more LKali friends yay.
first DMeta and now ROdin wat how lucky are you with 0.2% special gods

I YOLO rolled once, as per usual, against my better judgement.

Oh, hi Blue Sonia.


well, fuck

Now roll a few BlOdins and you'll have the OP Blue Sonia team people always talk about :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 01, 2015, 05:31:25 AM
I usually don't feed away gold eggs, but even after going around to check guides about Pandora and Dmeta they never suggest double Dvalk (double Hanzo yes, but not double Dvalk or Rider).... although in hindsight i probably should have kept her anyway.... #feelstupid
the 3rd GGY on the other hand i have no regrets..... don't like the guy apart for his awesome beard

and i wasn't complaining about getting Kagu (heck, his latest uevo is a beast), it was more about getting the same god 2 times in the same day while every single god i actually was hoping for was skillfully avoided  :V

I would keep them. Never underestimate GH's obsession with waifus and the dark color.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2015, 06:47:56 AM
holy fucking shit no matter what i try i cannot beat endless corridors

i've tried every fucking team i can but i just cant kill zeus ever i dont understand why do these teams do no damage at all fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk im sick of this shit JUST GIVE ME TRUE ENDLESS ALREADY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 01, 2015, 06:51:35 AM
holy fucking shit no matter what i try i cannot beat endless corridors

i've tried every fucking team i can but i just cant kill zeus ever i dont understand why do these teams do no damage at all fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk im sick of this shit JUST GIVE ME TRUE ENDLESS ALREADY

Zeus rekt me too man. I know that feel.

You can always try the dark side and odin it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2015, 06:52:49 AM
i tried stall once

i got so bored that my finger slipped and i died


i've tried every fucking team i have

goemon

satan

athena

none of them can do jack shit to zeus

farthest i've gotten is of course with Isis who ALMOST killed zeus if only I got a few more skyfalls

if only i had orochi this could be all over ffffffff
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2015, 07:20:51 AM
more LKali friends yay.
first DMeta and now ROdin wat how lucky are you with 0.2% special gods

Apparently I get them when I least expect them
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 01, 2015, 07:21:29 AM
Zeus rekt me too man. I know that feel.

You can always try the dark side and odin it.

fuck i went to the dark side :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 01, 2015, 08:18:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/UEyJ1sz.png)
Medjet on mythical rekt'd  :] no-stoned on first try!
This team: 100% skill bind resist, everyone except Indra is a viable leader, and even if it gets swapped to Indra, at least I have 2x hp to stall.

Wave 1: Masks and 99 turn pre-empt skill bind
Wave 2: Cyclops and Minotaur
Wave 3: Masks and tamadRA (pre-empt 5 turn skill bind)
Wave 4: Isis 2.7mil hp, every turn 15.4k + full board to B/G/L/H lol easy (She binds Fire monsters 5 turns)
Wave 5: Osiris 2mil hp, Light/Dark damage halved, G/D drop rate increased by 25%, skyfalls! yay!
Above 30%: 3rd row to jammer+7.7k -> 2nd and 5th column to heart+15.4k -> repeat
Below 30%: 30.8k damage

Wave 6: Medjet 4mil hp, pre-empt swap leader with random subs for 3 turn
First move: 99 turn 4 combo shield
Above 30%, randomly use one of the following:
Heart->Jammer+2.8k
randomColour->Dark+11.8k
Gravity 99% damage
swap leader with subs for 3 turn
Below 30%:
26.8k damage

This dungeon can be difficult if you don't have the right team, but easy if you can counter all the inconveniences
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 01, 2015, 08:19:22 AM
Day 2 Godfest is here. Did 8 pulls.

(http://i.imgur.com/rusUyw9.png)

How'd I do?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 01, 2015, 08:24:28 AM
*sigh*, seven-stoned Thief Descended on Mythical because I fumbled a lot through Mitsuki and Goemon himself.

Granted though, using LMeta on this was probably not the smartest choice.

The only reason I even stoned so much though was because... I got a kirin invade on wave 2.

Yeah, first-run invade on Meimei and first-run invade on Kirin, fuck yeah I'm stonning this much. 7 stones lost in total between Satan and Goemon (since it was my first time beating both, I paid back the stones I used on Meimei)

Now all I need is an angelit and a fuckload of experience to get Athena to uvo, and then I don't need to worry about jewels for a looooooooooong time.

Also, godfest yoloroll yields me a Machine Golem, guess my luck had to run out sometime.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 01, 2015, 08:56:33 AM
I did 4 more pulls

I got ronia :fail:

It was only a matter of time before I got infected, goodbye friends
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 01, 2015, 09:13:02 AM
I whaled way more than I should have.

Things I wanted: Andromeda/Dark Valk (WHY IS EVERYONE GETTING THESE)/any Norn

aside from worthless stuff I already fused away:
Blue Swordsman
Chrono Turtle
Idunn&Idunna
Rei Sirius
Strawberry Dragon
Marine Rider
Blue Valk
Ronia (now I too have her good lord)
Pandora

among worthless things: a SIXTH Sharon (just shoot me already), shardra, undine, titan
no skillups

EDIT: i am stupid whale
ROdin
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 01, 2015, 09:16:37 AM
You can always try the dark side and odin it.

fuck i went to the dark side :fail:

Someone called?  >:D
Oh and Chirei, i think getting Ronia will make your friends increase by a lot  :derp: (*totallynotmainingroniahimself*  ::))

Apparently I get them when I least expect them

I've got to try this "method", the game somehow knows why you roll during a godfest with disturbing accuracy......

But first let see how this goes (assuming i can rack up 5 more stones for a roll):

*ahem* Hey Rem, i want my fourth GGY! Please drop him! Don't give me crap like the Sonias, Odins, Norns or Sasuke! GOT IT?!


EDIT: Madoka, Sharon is obviously your one true waifu, like Isis for a certain someone  :V Just give up and put her on your main team!
(and i was complaining about my 3rd GGY? Now i feel like a spoiled jerk  :blush:)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2015, 12:35:04 PM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/550631184938831872

Starling Ultimate Evo = Acquired.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 01, 2015, 01:09:18 PM
Did my 13th pull today as I woke up and went to zero. Here are the final results.

1. Andromeda

2. Shining Swordsman
3. Claire (Black Valk)
4. Homura
5. Chiyome
6. LKali
7. Claire (Black Valk)
8. Arthur
9. Machine Golem
10) Ronia
11) Mystic Light Knight
12) Arthur

13) Femme (Red Valk)

Total Score: 9/13 Gold eggs


I wanted a red valk for the longest time, so I'm glad I got her as my last pull. Happy New Years, everybody.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2015, 01:11:58 PM
Did my 13th pull today as I woke up and went to zero. Here are the final results.

1. Andromeda

2. Shining Swordsman
3. Claire (Black Valk)
4. Homura
5. Chiyome
6. LKali
7. Claire (Black Valk)
8. Arthur
9. Machine Golem
10) Ronia
11) Mystic Light Knight
12) Arthur

13) Femme (Red Valk)

Total Score: 9/13 Gold eggs

Of note, this is basically everything everyone else in the pad IRC wanted.

gdit chirei.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 01, 2015, 02:36:46 PM
Of note, this is basically everything everyone else in the pad IRC wanted.

gdit chirei.

He didn't get the verdandi he wanted :V
He gets two Authur to go with his LKali too lol godly pulls

I whaled way more than I should have.

Things I wanted: Andromeda/Dark Valk (WHY IS EVERYONE GETTING THESE)/any Norn

aside from worthless stuff I already fused away:
Blue Swordsman
Chrono Turtle
Idunn&Idunna
Rei Sirius
Strawberry Dragon
Marine Rider
Blue Valk
Ronia (now I too have her good lord)
Pandora

among worthless things: a SIXTH Sharon (just shoot me already), shardra, undine, titan
no skillups

EDIT: i am stupid whale
ROdin

Don't know if this helps you or anything, but I&I/ BlueValk,Sharon is a very solid base for a blue healers team.
You have the two essential members I&I and BlueValk already, the rest of the slots can be filled with Siren, Ruka, Gabriel, Andromeda, or SQ, and you have a solid blue healers team that'd only get better.
Basically you can just fit Siren until you have a better replacement.
If you don't care about blue healers team then nevermind. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 01, 2015, 02:39:12 PM
fuck i went to the dark side :fail:

I realized last night that I'm way stronger than I was before and that I should correct this, and to reaffirm to myself that Leilan is in fact indeed the best leader in the game.

(http://i.imgur.com/hZAkySR.png) (http://i.imgur.com/BksyPGO.png)

 8)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 01, 2015, 03:31:11 PM
Re: Endless Corridors: Gabriel can do it, but the Hera fight is terrifying because it takes forever, you're in serious danger of actually dying the whole time, and you have to have all skills up for Zeus. Took me three tries I think once I got to him.

So I did my four pulls, zeroing out my stones. Didn't get what I wanted, but I seriously can't complain. Here's what I got:

Hattori Hanzo (I have no use for this at all, but good to have just in case)
Green Odin (Will now be my go-to green guy for all rainbow teams, plus I have a use for all those green Tamas)
Sharon (No particular use for her, but she was a blue healer I didn't have, so good)
Lkali (My second one. Shiiiit game why did you give me this? Bye Athena, you tried)

So no Andromeda, but went 4/4 gold, and yeah... That happened.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2015, 05:40:30 PM
fuck i have awoken neptune what the hell am i doing endless corridors should be a piece of cake

what subs would be best though?

I guess Siren for keeping me alive. Then I need some damage so Zeus Mercury? Although he isn't evolved yet dammit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 01, 2015, 06:18:04 PM
I didn't ask to be 2 for 2 on gold eggs, but I'll take it. (http://imgur.com/ZKkca0x)

also 2manyspecialgods
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 01, 2015, 10:33:53 PM
Need Shinji/Unit 01 ultimate evolution badly. U/B please. He would make a great Kali sub if he just had better stats and a subtype. Although I'm not sure what they could have him evolve into actually, since Unit 13 is already a monster. Guess we gotta wait for 3.0+1.0 and hopefully he gets a new robot that would be suitable for an evolution.

Edit: Was kind of bored just now, so I bought 30 stones. Notable pulls were Liu Bei, Loki, and a second Sharon. Not really worth it, but whatever. I'll throw $20 in a hole, I didn't pay for this game so fuck iiiiit. I can probably use the Liu Bei for something because his ultivos are amazing and all. Technically went 4/6 for gold eggs again, but one of them was Thanatos and the duplicate Sharon isn't that meaningful.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 01, 2015, 11:19:36 PM
I was one missed combo away from zero-stoning Thief Descended Mythical with Horus.

Oh well, I guess that proves that, as soon as I actually get this team finished (hello izanagi) it should be a piece of cake.

(No china invade so I didn't stone for it.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2015, 11:56:11 PM
goemon is pretty much the easiest descend in the game for Isis :V


...just went 4/6 on skillups for goemon

mean while not a single kirin invade

and i'm all out of stones now god fucking dammit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 02, 2015, 01:16:54 AM
So I did a few rolls on the way to see Big Hero 6. I did 4 then rounded up another stone from challenge mode to do the 5th roll.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on January 02, 2015, 01:33:21 AM
As for the rolls:
Mistrain
Lilith, no skill up
Blue Odin
Andromeda
Pandora (i did it)
Sasuke
Freyja

I'd really like any REM Valk and a Hanzo/Hatsume, but that's hardly worth rolling for is it? Even if it is a carnival, I (hopefully) will end up rolling them randomly later.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 02, 2015, 01:48:28 AM
ARGHH ?&%$"#@[&!!!

- Decided that pengdra village is finally worth it with the new evo mats
- Isn't at home for the first turn so save up stamina for the second one
- Fall asleep on the bed and wake up 15 minutes after pengdra village ended

I've literally lost count how many times this has happened to me..... I need to remember to set a freaking alarm every single time  :X
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 02, 2015, 01:58:31 AM
[09:53:26] <trance|work> ok guys
[09:53:29] <trance|work> give me your magic power
[09:53:56] <Chaore> ~BUN MAGIC~
[09:53:59] <trance|work> izanagi
[09:54:01] <trance|work> bun magic worked

yolo roll = izanagi

:)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 02, 2015, 03:54:13 AM
Damn, did anyone but me NOT get Andromeda? I shouldn't complain, I got too lucky. Still, I want that...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 02, 2015, 04:11:28 AM
Damn, did anyone but me NOT get Andromeda? I shouldn't complain, I got too lucky. Still, I want that...
I got Dark Golem Mk. II and Great Valkyrie.  Not sure what I'd do with one of those though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 02, 2015, 04:26:04 AM
Damn, did anyone but me NOT get Andromeda? I shouldn't complain, I got too lucky. Still, I want that...

I didn't get Andromeda but heroes only started just now and I'm not rolling anymore

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 02, 2015, 05:44:28 AM
I still don't have any heroes.

But of the last five rolls I've made (3 Christmas, 2 this godfest) I don't want to push my luck and further with money I don't have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 02, 2015, 05:56:00 AM
another run of goemon

still no jewel

got another skill up though

why u do this
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 02, 2015, 07:15:07 AM
ARISE

(http://i.imgur.com/oDUb3OTl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/oDUb3OT.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 02, 2015, 08:11:16 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/lDUU_9wx_pM0LUzyow0vbEzQfi-fzSjpLoZzFRtZw7KvBmD8mtSYynLlvZxmzJy_PzlJp_t5l1Q=w1576-h655)

hey i got what chirei wanted
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 02, 2015, 08:26:00 AM
Damn, did anyone but me NOT get Andromeda? I shouldn't complain, I got too lucky. Still, I want that...
Commander, one thing i noticed in this thread: if it was possible to share/trade our monsters with someone else MoTK's players would be unstoppable.
Choose 2 of those who post here at random and look at their combined padherder, 99% you have at least 3 perfect endgame teams....
We basically rolls what someone else here needs  :derp:

On a different note, sleeping over pengdra village had a nice side effect: i had to use all that stamina so i ran Cave of Dreaming 3 times: 3 red dragon fruits!
I finally uevoed Ronia! And i even got 3 skill-ups out of the 4 dragon fruits!  :toot:


EDIT: Wow, just 0-stoned Athena..... i thought it would be harder, Ronia roflstomp her! The most difficult part was actually Red Giant Gigas since my Vamp isn't maxskilled :derp: I brought Athena to <15% by dueling her with normal combos!  :o

the stone gave me my last roll for this godfest.... Grape Dragon :-/  at least i didn't have him and it's useful....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 02, 2015, 02:09:23 PM
okay does anyone know why this is a thing for real

[09:03] <Chirei> ...what
[09:03] <Chirei> WHAT
[09:03] <Chirei> okay so someone sent me a mail basically saying "yo you left your athena up in both slots can i get yo leilan for athena"
[09:04] <Chirei> i tried to reply but it didnt let me send the message
[09:04] <Chirei> because it had a censored word
[09:04] <Chirei> the word was "swap"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 02, 2015, 03:00:28 PM
Just got a trxt from shitty neighbor guy saying that he got 4/4 Meimei skillups from Wind Chasers. Those were the only four he had.









That's a bad way to start a day.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 02, 2015, 06:40:39 PM
Damn, did anyone but me NOT get Andromeda? I shouldn't complain, I got too lucky. Still, I want that...

I rolled 10 times, 5 golds:
Leviathan (ffff)
Apocalypse (cool)
Yamato (okay he's top tier but I never levelled my fire team)
Andromeda (Dupe Lulz, two andros along with Ruka in I&I for 100% skill binds. :V )
Horus (It's not egypt 1.0 up, and it's not fire galas on JP. what the heck. and it's also a dupe. and my first horus was also NOT on a egypt fes nor fire galas. weird)



In other news, 10 rolls on a egypts fes and yet no egypts 2.0 again.
I am so despaired (and my friend pulled a verdandi in front of me) I went in TRUE endless corridor with Light Ra+Hathor, it's not even fully levelled.
Here's the team:
(http://i.imgur.com/3bW2a70.png)

and so the first 20 waves or so was easy, then I got to Beelzebub, hit him to under 30% but orb-trolled, he did the full-board poison, and I countered with full-board LKali :V
Mono-light made Satan do-able, I had to use Izanagi.
and then..
wait WHAT I reached wave 29: Fire Hera.
I thought I was pretty much dead but did my best anyways, one 31.5x later I hit her to around 30% hp, right above where she'd waste a turn, but then I got lucky and she used NORMAL ATTACK and hathor's hp buff was enought to tank a hit!
(http://i.imgur.com/S6YKwoQ.png)
And then it was L/L Zeus.
First turn was 31.5x which hit around 30% off his hp. Second turn I had only 4 colours, I cleared everything but light and.... behold, I got a board with 10 light orbs and 5 colours out of 6 present (missing red).
Used Izanagi, went for 3,3,4 light combos, skyfall to 10 combos with RED. 31.5x.
(http://i.imgur.com/WrUMPjD.png)(http://i.imgur.com/RsOacQ1.png)

TRUE ENDLESS CORRIDOR BEATEN.

Egypts OP
Hathor OP

;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 02, 2015, 07:31:33 PM
I'm still a little unclear on prongs math despite a lot of experimenting in True Endless Corridor. If I have six orbs is it better to make one four-orb or two three-orb matches? I imagine that depends on the number of prongs I have to an extent, but I don't know to what degree.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 02, 2015, 07:49:10 PM

TRUE ENDLESS CORRIDOR BEATEN.



BUT BUT EGYPT 2 IS SO BAD, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

For real though, congrats. So many times Hera-Ur had me against the wall and she got me every time. Have this imaginary 10 minute long credits reel.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 02, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
BUT BUT EGYPT 2 IS SO BAD, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, if you really want to go there, I can straight up tell you just maxing his team he could take that hit all the same with a +297 friend. Without plus eggs.

And that he probably would've killed Ur instead with a x49.

That's still a thing we could do.

TRUE ENDLESS CORRIDOR BEATEN.

On the other hand, congrats. Actually using Ra and Hathor to do things alone is pretty impressive, but doing all 30 floors of TEC sounds pretty hellish.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 02, 2015, 08:49:38 PM
TRUE ENDLESS CORRIDOR BEATEN.

DAAAAAAMN, CONGRATS!  :o

Now you miss only lv10 of challenge dungeons and you can stop playing PAD  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 02, 2015, 10:12:35 PM
Oh man I was kind of annoyed that Tuesday was so far off for Keepers but then I remembered there's coin dungeons!

It's actually pretty great that I can level and evolve guys any time as long as I have the coins and stamina now BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 02, 2015, 11:27:12 PM
Should i evolve my Zeus to Stratios or Olympios? I'm leaning toward Olympios since:

1) if i want a dark <x% conditional leader i already have Dmeta which is way better
2) negative RCV is quite a bummer (i guess Stratios would be good for Satan teams?)
3) Olympios would be usable as sub for an eventual Athena team

Am i missing something that should be obvious?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 02, 2015, 11:34:43 PM
Stratios is not a bad sub though since he has double TPA and really high attack. The low RCV isn't really a problem if you use him on teams like Satan or I guess Dmeta.

They're both pretty outdated though in the current meta of Athena and burstfriends
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 02, 2015, 11:46:34 PM
i'd say olympios still since he's still the bargain twinlits team leader
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 02, 2015, 11:49:34 PM
but if you can get him you probably can already clear twinlits no problem :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 02, 2015, 11:57:07 PM
I would say Stratios because perfect uvo Beelzebub sub.
But then again I'm the only person here who even intends to use Beelzebub so mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 03, 2015, 12:08:05 AM
but if you can get him you probably can already clear twinlits no problem :V

or rolled pal godlike

he's more of a safety net/improvement to the bargain team though yeah

I would say Stratios because perfect uvo Beelzebub sub.
But then again I'm the only person here who even intends to use Beelzebub so mileage may vary.

i mean theres a point there in that beelze is his only competitor and he's much easier to obtain on multiple levels

mini lilith dark prong master race though BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 03, 2015, 12:23:16 AM
First try of the day? Zero-Stoned Athena!

...And then fail twice on siegfried because I AM REALLY BAD AT MATCHING ORBS

:derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 03, 2015, 05:32:46 AM
BUT BUT EGYPT 2 IS SO BAD, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

For real though, congrats. So many times Hera-Ur had me against the wall and she got me every time. Have this imaginary 10 minute long credits reel.
I mean, if you really want to go there, I can straight up tell you just maxing his team he could take that hit all the same with a +297 friend. Without plus eggs.

And that he probably would've killed Ur instead with a x49.

That's still a thing we could do.

On the other hand, congrats. Actually using Ra and Hathor to do things alone is pretty impressive, but doing all 30 floors of TEC sounds pretty hellish.

Thanks!
Yea, after seeing what people do with Hathor, I think what egypts 2.0 is best at, is that you can do what others have to +297 some or even that whole team to do.

Well, I don't know how much of this can be credited to Hathor because it's the first time I attempted it after I rolled a LKali and uevo'd my Athena, I used Hahor's gravity only once anyways: on Hera Urs in the turn I posted the SS, because I ran out of lights and I wanted to hit her under 30% so she wastes a turn, I think DMeta just killed her singlehandedly so that was a mistake :V ; and I have to admit luck is a huge factor in clearing True Endless though :V

DAAAAAAMN, CONGRATS!  :o

Now you miss only lv10 of challenge dungeons and you can stop playing PAD  :V
Thanks :V! I haven't even dared to try lv8 and lv10, nor did I do any of the rushes yet, so there's still lots I have to work towards.
I did have a good run of lv9 with double L/L Ra, where I died at Threedia because not enough 49x turns. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 03, 2015, 06:30:14 AM
Thanks!
Yea, after seeing what people do with Hathor, I think what egypts 2.0 is best at, is that you can do what others have to +297 some or even that whole team to do.

To clarify, I meant more level maxing. :v Only friend needed to be +297.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 03, 2015, 06:31:23 AM
Thank you to everyone who watched me stream P&D and do my clear of Hera-Ur Legend (0-stone)

I look forward to doing this more with you!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 03, 2015, 08:04:23 AM
coin guerilla confirmed for sunday
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 03, 2015, 01:23:22 PM
400 day login bonus get
all my stamina for Beelzebub and Izanami orbs just multiplied tenfold

E: this no-stone just happened (http://imgur.com/gRqzcZH)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
King of Gods Challenge mode cleared with Satan + Ronia friends finally putting them to use
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 03, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
400 day login bonus get

Mine too! We must have started on the same day.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2015, 05:16:56 PM
coin guerilla confirmed for sunday
meanwhile x2 weekend is still in place making it pretty useless >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 03, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
It's a nearly free stone so I'll be using it at least once.

Also yeeees Suzaku finally invaded again I have my Fire Jewel

It only took four stones and over 600 stamina
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 03, 2015, 07:10:20 PM
So I go to run Super Emeralds, notice there are normal Emeralds onscreen.

Darn I messed up-is that a TAMADRA?

It dropped.  Good times.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2015, 08:04:28 PM
(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz304/dummy2205/unnamed-3.png)

So apparently this can happen. Ocean Dragon Knight legend, no drop at all from the Waron floor. This is horseshit. The game just absolutely won't give me Sun Quan skillups no matter what I do, and now it won't even let me attempt them because apparently that floor can just drop nothing. I have not spent a single stamina on anything else since that dungeon became available and I have nothing to show for it. It's like I'm not even playing PAD, but it's still eating my tiiiiiime...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 03, 2015, 08:09:56 PM
I feel you. I've been tryiing to get mystic knight skill ups, and outside of Homura, it's not going well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 04, 2015, 12:23:11 AM
Aaaah I am vindicated. My last two Warons got me two skillups. You win this time, PAD. You get to stay installed. Never do that again though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 04, 2015, 02:42:04 AM
You ever stone for stamina cause you're stuck in line somewhere like the pharmacy?

Stupid meth heads ruining it for everyone.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 04, 2015, 02:45:45 AM
Since I've had some people asking me how I do alt dungeons I just made a lazy ass low quality video about it here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0h35FmdOqc).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 04, 2015, 05:07:04 AM
Aaaah I am vindicated. My last two Warons got me two skillups. You win this time, PAD. You get to stay installed. Never do that again though.

Congrats!
I know very well how painful Waron hunting is, which is why I never bothered to do the extra skill lv after the max skill lv rise from one of the rebalance patches.
It sucks even more coin dungeons don't have drop rate up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 04, 2015, 06:54:47 AM
214+ Stam used

0/8 Verche, x2.5 skillup rate. Okay game

https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/551636786888192000

underlevelled nut team, 30K HP w/ Blodin FL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 04, 2015, 09:13:16 AM
This whole Izanami thing is going to suck. A lot.

33% no-stone rate at the moment. No-stoned my first try even though I didn't know this was the "Double Izanami rush!" but I got Sakuya-orbtrolled wave one and then I killed Lizzy with 6 turns of skill bind still remaining.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 04, 2015, 12:52:51 PM
This whole Izanami thing is going to suck. A lot.

33% no-stone rate at the moment. No-stoned my first try even though I didn't know this was the "Double Izanami rush!" but I got Sakuya-orbtrolled wave one and then I killed Lizzy with 6 turns of skill bind still remaining.

So everything in Mythical was easy... except for the part that Liza is suicidal and made a billion light orbs. I tried to ride out Creation but needless to say that did not work for very long. If only she had more HP.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 04, 2015, 03:56:00 PM
So after running KoG non-stop for 2 straight rank-ups i decided to try something that i have ignored for quite some time: Threedia.
I know i should have waited tomorrow for the higher drop rate but this was literally a spur of the moment decision so  :V

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-04-15-27-39_zpsf65d7130.png)

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-04-15-28-06_zpsd5b95230.png)

0-stoned it! :toot: My first attempt both at the dungeon and at taking screenshots (at least the dragon and the gold egg are sliiiightly visible  :blush:)

Worst part was on floor 6 where the Tamadra was so pro that he decided to bind LILITH.... thanks god i had 6 heart orb available!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 04, 2015, 04:53:54 PM
YES!  I STILL don't have to run Wednesday Legend after all!  Second Ancient Green Sacred Mask obtained, so now I can prepare to ult Kushi.

EDIT:  Or rather I can just flat out DO it.  Turns out my hoarding of evo materials worked in my favor for once.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 04, 2015, 05:22:35 PM
Threedia

Threedia's drop is guaranteed no matter what you do. Little point in waiting for tomorrow.

Also I hope you realize that you just used a completely non-REM team to beat him. Congrats!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 04, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
Threedia's drop is guaranteed no matter what you do. Little point in waiting for tomorrow.

Also I hope you realize that you just used a completely non-REM team to beat him. Congrats!

Well, the boss is indeed 100% but all those fat pengdras looks tasty....  :3

Thanks and no, i totally didn't realize until you pointed it out!  :derp: That's even better ^^
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 04, 2015, 06:04:33 PM
I'm not well-versed in my PAD history, but out of curiosity, has there ever been a monster that was directly nerfed after release? Or, for that matter, any kind of direct nerf (altering a mechanic to be less powerful, as opposed to indirectly nerfing it by designing dungeons to not work well with it)? I can't imagine there could have been because of Gungho's policy of buffing the most powerful things first and often, and the outcry that that would create (arguably rightly so) in the fan community, but I'm curious.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 04, 2015, 06:14:09 PM
I'm not well-versed in my PAD history, but out of curiosity, has there ever been a monster that was directly nerfed after release? Or, for that matter, any kind of direct nerf (altering a mechanic to be less powerful, as opposed to indirectly nerfing it by designing dungeons to not work well with it)? I can't imagine there could have been because of Gungho's policy of buffing the most powerful things first and often, and the outcry that that would create (arguably rightly so) in the fan community, but I'm curious.

Mastering (or anything with orb refresh).

The max cooldown used to be 5 turns instead of 6, so you could basically chain orb refreshes indefinitely so long as you got skyfall combos.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2015, 07:01:45 PM
Hey izanami mythical isn't too har-

>reach dark iza while fully skill locked, time reduced, and a terrible board

nevermind
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 04, 2015, 07:07:30 PM
Ran over Betelgeuse with LMeta, showing myself that team is getting decent.  Decided to hunt down healers with light rows...

...

...

*cries*  I don't wanna fight Sandalphoooon...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 05, 2015, 03:41:14 AM
I'm not well-versed in my PAD history, but out of curiosity, has there ever been a monster that was directly nerfed after release? Or, for that matter, any kind of direct nerf (altering a mechanic to be less powerful, as opposed to indirectly nerfing it by designing dungeons to not work well with it)? I can't imagine there could have been because of Gungho's policy of buffing the most powerful things first and often, and the outcry that that would create (arguably rightly so) in the fan community, but I'm curious.

I heard Orochi was nerfed somehow but I forgot what it was.

Well, the boss is indeed 100% but all those fat pengdras looks tasty....  :3

Thanks and no, i totally didn't realize until you pointed it out!  :derp: That's even better ^^

Congrats!
Beating that with a non-REM team is just so amazing :o
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Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2015, 05:19:04 AM
What do you guys think of Green Odin as an Athena sub? I don't know when he would be used or what he would be replaced, but the extra healing and huge HP do boost the team's surivability a lot. Is there any merit to that or is survivability such low priority for an Athena team that it's not worth cutting someone with big damage for him? I'm thinking maybe for some descends cutting Verche or GZL for him could be useful, but in practice I guess I have no idea, and raising him up is a huge chore. I'll want to have him maxed at some point as a general utility/rainbow sub option, but he's pretty low on the priority pile for now.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 05, 2015, 05:34:55 AM
I think it sounds like a good idea, I would rather sub GrOdin than DQXQ or LMeta who I currently do when I need more healing.  I would sub out Verche because I have a hypermaxed godvalk, but if the boss doesn't require some insane spike to beat, removing GZL should be good.

I'm leveling Noah for pure HP for the same purpose because I don't have GrOdin
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 05, 2015, 06:55:19 AM
Yamato Takeru is the next Hero God to get an uvo:

(http://i.imgur.com/wISluxO.jpg)

(Img 80% completed.)
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Post by: Espadas on January 05, 2015, 08:35:14 AM
Yamato Takeru is the next Hero God to get an uvo:

(http://i.imgur.com/wISluxO.jpg)

(Img 80% completed.)

Ok, that's so badass! Guess at some time i'll have to bring him out of the box.....

What do you guys think of Green Odin as an Athena sub? I don't know when he would be used or what he would be replaced, but the extra healing and huge HP do boost the team's surivability a lot. Is there any merit to that or is survivability such low priority for an Athena team that it's not worth cutting someone with big damage for him? I'm thinking maybe for some descends cutting Verche or GZL for him could be useful, but in practice I guess I have no idea, and raising him up is a huge chore. I'll want to have him maxed at some point as a general utility/rainbow sub option, but he's pretty low on the priority pile for now.

I don't have experience with Athena but in teams that have low RCV (like my Karin) he is a godsend. Maybe could be useful to reach certain HP requirements or to tank dungeons with back-to-back hard hitters?

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Congrats!
Beating that with a non-REM team is just so amazing :o

Thanks! ^^
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 05, 2015, 08:36:10 AM
What do you guys think of Green Odin as an Athena sub? I don't know when he would be used or what he would be replaced, but the extra healing and huge HP do boost the team's surivability a lot. Is there any merit to that or is survivability such low priority for an Athena team that it's not worth cutting someone with big damage for him? I'm thinking maybe for some descends cutting Verche or GZL for him could be useful, but in practice I guess I have no idea, and raising him up is a huge chore. I'll want to have him maxed at some point as a general utility/rainbow sub option, but he's pretty low on the priority pile for now.

Solid as hell and a savior many times over.  I've been using Odin as a sub ever since his ult was released and he's saved my ass so many times I've lost count. +2000 HP every turn and an emergency attack/heal is the best thing ever-- and an Athena team loves him all the more, because his massive HP gets multiplied even more thanks to Athena's leader skill.

Do it. You will not regret it. Thanks to him my Athena team literally has over 30,000 HP when running a high +HP egg Athena friend.
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Post by: Espadas on January 05, 2015, 08:54:38 AM
Urgh, just went to check PDX's page on Takeru's new uvo art.... and half the comments are about wanting Devil Pandora. -__-

Gungho, for once i hope you will gungtroll all of these whiners and makes her something like Balanced or Physical (and this coming from someone who have Pandora AND main a devil team :-/ )

Honestly, i think Balanced would fit way better from a myth standpoint. She was never "evil" to begin with (quite the opposite, since the gods created her with every virtue!), and Hope was to balance out the evils she unleashed.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 05, 2015, 08:57:30 AM
And then, plot twist: Healer Pandora!
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 05, 2015, 09:08:01 AM
Urgh, just went to check PDX's page on Takeru's new uvo art.... and half the comments are about wanting Devil Pandora. -__-

Gungho, for once i hope you will gungtroll all of these whiners and makes her something like Balanced or Physical (and this coming from someone who have Pandora AND main a devil team :-/ )

Honestly, i think Balanced would fit way better from a myth standpoint. She was never "evil" to begin with (quite the opposite, since the gods created her with every virtue!), and Hope was to balance out the evils she unleashed.

Don't jinx it. Devil Pandora would be fucking rad. :(

Besides, Yamato's new ult is pretty surely going to be Dragon, Andromeda is Healer, and Perseus is already Balanced (wherein green is far more suited for Balanced to begin with). That leaves Devil, Physical, and Attacker.

Personally I hope that Physical will be the one dropped from the set-- one of the things that make the heroes great is that they're heartmakers and heartbreakers at the same time, and Physicals tend to lack high RCV while Devils either tend to have a lot of RCV or very little, and the recent trend for Attackers has revolved around low HP and higher than average RCV.

Then again I just like light attackers, too. <_<;

Whatever, I just want ults for the stuff I actually have and they're just leaving them up in the air with no hints at what they may be. (Looking at you too, Venus.)
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 05, 2015, 09:10:10 AM
Considering how they've been pushing Light Attacker as a thing lately, Wukong will probably be one.

Though I agree Yamato-Takeru is probably gonna be Dragon, we can't be sure until his stats are released.

Which leaves Physical and Devil for Pandora, knowing GungHo it's probably gonna be Devil, but then again, we all thought similar stuff on the Gabriel/Raphael ultimate thing and both of them turned out to be Healers so maybe she'll get Balanced (Since GungHo has been kind of pushing Dark Balanced as a thing lately.)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 05, 2015, 09:19:04 AM
That's the thing though: I don't understand the push toward Dark Balanced when it's such a sparse and empty field as it is. There's only two heavy-ish hitting leaders in the set (D/R FA Luci and Loki) and one tank leader (Ult AA Lucifer). The rest are extremely mediocre at best, even as subs go, with Mulan, Vampire, CDK, Tsukuyomi, and Sleeping Beauty being the only real standouts. (Or JP only, which means we'll never get them anyway.)

It's just not a very well developed category at all. I get that making Pandora Balanced would help that, but even then it's giving an incredibly good leader to a pretty empty crowd, which would be a detriment to her overall unless they really keep pushing out more Dark Balanced units. Because until then, this is all we really have:

(http://i.imgur.com/uwBwJWG.png)

EDIT: I guess D/W Batman is okay as a leader too. Good luck (never) getting him though.

Dark Physical is even smaller, on that note. Wow.
(http://i.imgur.com/nyDvN1P.png)
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 05, 2015, 09:30:01 AM
I guess they think Dark Attacker and Dark Devil already have so many monsters they want to flesh something different out.

Though frankly, I don't think any one of us will ever be able to understand GungHo's thought process.
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Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2015, 09:38:17 AM
Urgh, just went to check PDX's page on Takeru's new uvo art.... and half the comments are about wanting Devil Pandora. -__-

Gungho, for once i hope you will gungtroll all of these whiners and makes her something like Balanced or Physical (and this coming from someone who have Pandora AND main a devil team :-/ )

Honestly, i think Balanced would fit way better from a myth standpoint. She was never "evil" to begin with (quite the opposite, since the gods created her with every virtue!), and Hope was to balance out the evils she unleashed.

Dragon Takeru and Healer Andromeda give me hope for it. Those colors are similar to their norse counterparts, after all. Same with Perseus, actually...

I think it's the best option because dark balanced needs orb changers badly, and Pandora is one of the best.

Fuck your popularity, spice up the meta game some.

Dragon Takeru is hella hype though. Shame Freyr's LS isn't...fantastic.



Also, Shynpy get.

Superman's day shall come soon.
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Post by: Espadas on January 05, 2015, 11:44:46 AM
I guess they think Dark Attacker and Dark Devil already have so many monsters they want to flesh something different out.

This is more or less my point. Dark Devil is already well developed, and i'm getting a bit tired of the assioma "Dark main element + powerful = Devil and/or Attacker"....

i just checked, Dark Devil (without JP only and only counting fully evolved version) already have around 38 monsters, among them: Satan, Vamp, Lilith, Chester, both FA Luci, both Batman, Beelzebub, Loki, Sleeping Beauty, Lu bu, Haku, Demon Hadar, CDD, JDDJ, Hera, Zeus Stratios, Persephone, Hades, Vector Finn......

Add to that Dark Attacker non-Devil.....

I agree that Devil Pandora would be rad, and i sure as hell would use her, but a bit of variety?  ???
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Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2015, 01:24:40 PM
It's just not a very well developed category at all. I get that making Pandora Balanced would help that, but even then it's giving an incredibly good leader to a pretty empty crowd, which would be a detriment to her overall unless they really keep pushing out more Dark Balanced units.

Pandora is the third most used leader in the Japanese community without a subtype.

She also makes heavy use of Hanzo (Who is attacker), and Claire (who is a healer) and would probably prefer to keep her current loadout over focusing on a subtype.

She does not really get hurt from or desire a Subtype right now. Impact on her as a leader will come from awakenings.

In short, Pandora will be fine either way and it's basically only the subtypes as a whole that stand to gain.

There is seriously literally 0 reason to be opposed to Pandora Balanced because it is actually only going to make other cards better and the subtype as a whole more viable and easier to push cards into.
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Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2015, 01:27:25 PM
Solid as hell and a savior many times over.  I've been using Odin as a sub ever since his ult was released and he's saved my ass so many times I've lost count. +2000 HP every turn and an emergency attack/heal is the best thing ever-- and an Athena team loves him all the more, because his massive HP gets multiplied even more thanks to Athena's leader skill.

Do it. You will not regret it. Thanks to him my Athena team literally has over 30,000 HP when running a high +HP egg Athena friend.

Sounds plausible. Out of Verche/White Valkyrie/Meimie/GZL what would you cut for him? I'm leaning toward Verche because of his comparatively low stats and lack of a skillboost, but orbchangers are crazy useful on that team. I was briefly thinking of cutting GZL and using a friend GZL as my other leader, but that's counter-intuitive to the extra HP and healing from Odin, so never mind. The only dead weight on the team is the extra Athena active, but nothing really replaces her well. Maybe Dark Meimei as friend leader and then cut my own Meimei for Odin? Do you think that has merit?
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 05, 2015, 01:39:11 PM
Maybe Dark Meimei as friend leader and then cut my own Meimei for Odin? Do you think that has merit?

I use R/G Leilan and Athena for No Dupes alt dungeons so I think it can work. Meimei has better synergy then her anyway (though occasionally I will take things out with a fire row because I can.)
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Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
FINALLY beat Sandalphon. I consider this a significant PAD milestone, since getting trashed by Raphael was the first time I realized that my team was terrible and got help from you guys revising it and actually making it good enough to handle hard dungeons. Since then I have just barely failed to clear it repeatedly, but this time nothing went horribly awry (didn't run into Michael and get orbtrolled, didn't forget an active at a crucial moment, didn't get massive skyfalls while stalling on Sandy that knocked him below half suddenly, didn't get a call in the middle of my combo to take out Raphael, etc.). This dungeon isn't that hard for my team (at least, it won't be once Sun Quan and Beyzul get subtypes to fight Michael), so the fact that it took me this long to beat it is unfortunate. But I finally did, so good. I could've one-stoned it three or four different times, but I'm glad I didn't because no-stoning makes it more satisfying in the end.
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Post by: Espadas on January 05, 2015, 03:17:16 PM
FINALLY beat Sandalphon. I consider this a significant PAD milestone, since getting trashed by Raphael was the first time I realized that my team was terrible and got help from you guys revising it and actually making it good enough to handle hard dungeons. Since then I have just barely failed to clear it repeatedly, but this time nothing went horribly awry (didn't run into Michael and get orbtrolled, didn't forget an active at a crucial moment, didn't get massive skyfalls while stalling on Sandy that knocked him below half suddenly, didn't get a call in the middle of my combo to take out Raphael, etc.). This dungeon isn't that hard for my team (at least, it won't be once Sun Quan and Beyzul get subtypes to fight Michael), so the fact that it took me this long to beat it is unfortunate. But I finally did, so good. I could've one-stoned it three or four different times, but I'm glad I didn't because no-stoning makes it more satisfying in the end.

Congrats!

I cleared Sandalphon today too, but i 1-stoned it because of what is possibly my derpiest moment to date on PAD.....

"let see:
- got a friend non uevo Ronia so that i can stall instead of risking Lu Bu
- switched in Thanatos for dealing with Raphael
- kept almost the same burst spike that i use to OHKO Zeus in KoG so Sandalphon is no problem
ok i should be ready....."

Everything goes more or less ok (of course the game gave me Michael, since it's the only one that can pose a problem to Ronia, but i managed to kill him on the last turn) until i reach Raphael..... and discover that the dark absorb last TEN turns, instead of the FIVE i believed for some reason :derp:

"....so THAT is why they suggest to bring Echidna too!" *BAM* Game Over  :V
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Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2015, 03:34:35 PM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

ITS FUCKING OVER

ITS FINALLY FUCKING OVER

ENDLESS CORRIDORS BEAT AAAAAGGGGGGGsESDFREFSFSFESR#$%S#T

i leveled up in achievements lol
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Post by: Jq1790 on January 05, 2015, 03:41:19 PM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

ITS FUCKING OVER

ITS FINALLY FUCKING OVER

ENDLESS CORRIDORS BEAT AAAAAGGGGGGGsESDFREFSFSFESR#$%S#T

i leveled up in achievements lol
Congratulations!

now go do tec
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Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
welp died to beelz because i thought he gave two turns before his poison OHKO

pdx why are you so ambiguous
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2015, 04:38:06 PM
Solid as hell and a savior many times over.  I've been using Odin as a sub ever since his ult was released and he's saved my ass so many times I've lost count. +2000 HP every turn and an emergency attack/heal is the best thing ever-- and an Athena team loves him all the more, because his massive HP gets multiplied even more thanks to Athena's leader skill.

Do it. You will not regret it. Thanks to him my Athena team literally has over 30,000 HP when running a high +HP egg Athena friend.

I know this was said a while ago, but those heals are even more appreciated when you consider how bad Athena recovery I think I got a 10k heal off of 10 combos. I don't have one, but idk who I'd replace with an Odin.
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Post by: Espadas on January 05, 2015, 04:51:36 PM
Urgh, S-ranking is really trying to take top spot from cost-restricted dungeons as "most annoying thing in PAD" (skilling-up isn't annoying, it's soul-crushing  :()... just got 58.8k at Earth Insect Dragon  :matsuriscowl:

And it's always, always due to that -censored- floor with Chimera+Demon or similar....

Don't think i'll attempt it again. Will wait next time it comes around and hopefully smash it with hypermaxed mons....
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 05, 2015, 05:31:13 PM
*Chirei peeks in thread by coincidence

now go do tec

I'm sorry were you talking to me

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well the game's beaten everyone go home
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Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2015, 05:37:47 PM
meanwhile i wasted all of my stamina on earth insect dragon and i lost every time

rip i suck at this game cant even make 5 combos


i think i brain is shot i cant even 4 combo now

nor can i type
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 05, 2015, 06:15:02 PM
Sounds plausible. Out of Verche/White Valkyrie/Meimie/GZL what would you cut for him? I'm leaning toward Verche because of his comparatively low stats and lack of a skillboost, but orbchangers are crazy useful on that team. I was briefly thinking of cutting GZL and using a friend GZL as my other leader, but that's counter-intuitive to the extra HP and healing from Odin, so never mind. The only dead weight on the team is the extra Athena active, but nothing really replaces her well. Maybe Dark Meimei as friend leader and then cut my own Meimei for Odin? Do you think that has merit?

What would I cut for Odin? Probably Meimei or Valk, depending on how much firepower I need.

For example:
Athena/Verche/Odin/GZL/Meimei/Athena

Consider this the "high firepower" version, since Verche stands as both your emergency orbs and synergizes well with Meimei's 7star (change the dark orbs to light and you have a metric fuckton of power-- especially if you can pull off some clever orb management and get some green and light TPAs out of it, and even more if you stack it with Athena's enhance and GZL's burst active.

Or:

Athena/Verche/Valk/Odin/GZL/Athena

This is more versatile and revolves more around always having orbs available since you have two fast light sources in Verche and Valk. Pop both at the boss and you'll still have a healthy amount to enhance with Athena and GZL. Honestly it works out just fine-- even though GOdin lacks TPA he's still boosted by Athena since he's God type. It's also pretty close to my Athena team, which is Athena/Verche/Apollo/Odin/Izanagi/Athena.

Pandora is the third most used leader in the Japanese community without a subtype.

She also makes heavy use of Hanzo (Who is attacker), and Claire (who is a healer) and would probably prefer to keep her current loadout over focusing on a subtype.

She does not really get hurt from or desire a Subtype right now. Impact on her as a leader will come from awakenings.

In short, Pandora will be fine either way and it's basically only the subtypes as a whole that stand to gain.

There is seriously literally 0 reason to be opposed to Pandora Balanced because it is actually only going to make other cards better and the subtype as a whole more viable and easier to push cards into.

I guess. If they actually do something with the subtype to actually make it viable to begin with afterward, because right now it isn't. At all.

I guess I'm just annoyed by the notion because it means I don't get to use my Super Fun Overkill Buttons (TM) on her through Lu Bu or Baddie because Izanagi and Woodsie are absolute garbage subs for Pandora. Which is no fun for me because I love using those. <_< (None of the armored knights, should we ever get those, are valid either).

*Chirei peeks in thread by coincidence

I'm sorry were you talking to me

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well the game's beaten everyone go home

holy shit
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Post by: Thaws on January 05, 2015, 06:38:29 PM
*Chirei peeks in thread by coincidence

I'm sorry were you talking to me

(http://i.imgur.com/05f8JSO.png) (http://i.imgur.com/n47Qe80.png) (http://i.imgur.com/13AwvjI.png)

well the game's beaten everyone go home

Pro


I guess I'm just annoyed by the notion because it means I don't get to use my Super Fun Overkill Buttons (TM) on her through Lu Bu or Baddie because Izanagi and Woodsie are absolute garbage subs for Pandora. Which is no fun for me because I love using those. <_< (None of the armored knights, should we ever get those, are valid either).


Look at red dragons, blue healers, and green dragon,green attacker. If gungho wants something to be good, it will become good. Tired of the dark=devil association too tbh. Some things do take forever and still is not a thing though.
Andro and Perseus has the same subtype as twinlit norse so light attacker and dark balanced seems likely.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 05, 2015, 08:55:47 PM
*Chirei peeks in thread by coincidence

I'm sorry were you talking to me

(http://i.imgur.com/05f8JSO.png) (http://i.imgur.com/n47Qe80.png) (http://i.imgur.com/13AwvjI.png)

well the game's beaten everyone go home

And you keep telling me you suck at this game too.  I can't go 6 runs of alt cosita without dying or beat the original endless corridors.
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Post by: Espadas on January 05, 2015, 09:12:21 PM
*Chirei peeks in thread by coincidence

I'm sorry were you talking to me

(http://i.imgur.com/05f8JSO.png) (http://i.imgur.com/n47Qe80.png) (http://i.imgur.com/13AwvjI.png)

well the game's beaten everyone go home

Chirei posting this:  8)
Me seeing this:  :o
Grats!

Suikama, may i suggest a break? Before the one that get a "break" is your mobile?
Maybe a fast pray to that Muse shrine i'm pretty sure you must have in your house?  :D
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Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2015, 09:17:01 PM
that Muse shrine i'm pretty sure you must have in your house?  :D
if having a bookmark to Muse's page on pdx counts sure :derp:
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 05, 2015, 09:30:05 PM
Maybe a fast pray to that Muse shrine i'm pretty sure you must have in your house?  :D

I would have expected a Skuld or Isis shrine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2015, 09:50:45 PM
if having a bookmark to Muse's page on pdx counts sure :derp:

Worked for me to get my Sun Quan. Bookmark the page and look at it wistfully twice a day and the game will take pity and give you one. But only with your final few stones
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Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2015, 10:33:16 PM
I guess. If they actually do something with the subtype to actually make it viable to begin with afterward, because right now it isn't. At all.

I guess I'm just annoyed by the notion because it means I don't get to use my Super Fun Overkill Buttons (TM) on her through Lu Bu or Baddie because Izanagi and Woodsie are absolute garbage subs for Pandora. Which is no fun for me because I love using those. <_< (None of the armored knights, should we ever get those, are valid either).

Exactly why it needs pandora. I mean it's got a good -start- because D/B Loki has the makings for a good leader and FA Luci is a huge card- But it needs more cards, and it needs orb changers, and Pandora helps with that.

Also tbh you want more orb changes over SUPER FUN OVERKILL BUTTONS on pandora in the first place, or stuff like Haku. The nature of pandora just consumes too many orbs to really -not- have as many of those as you can.

I mean I have probably said that exact sentence before.

With other teams of yours.

*Chirei peeks in thread by coincidence

I'm sorry were you talking to me

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well the game's beaten everyone go home

chirei plz.


Look at red dragons, blue healers, and green dragon,green attacker. If gungho wants something to be good, it will become good. Tired of the dark=devil association too tbh. Some things do take forever and still is not a thing though.
Andro and Perseus has the same subtype as twinlit norse so light attacker and dark balanced seems likely.

Basically.

Another thing about light attacker wukong?

SUPERMAN X WUKONG OTP BABY.

and he could get a prong too making him do work for -both- light attacker teams
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 06, 2015, 12:06:01 AM
13 Cosita Runs
4 +Eggs
1 Py Sighted
1 Py Dropped   :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 06, 2015, 12:12:41 AM
Speaking of running stuff, I've been running Blade of Justice for a while, I'm one skillup short of max on Verche and I've dropped 6 plus eggs so far, all of them on Expert :wat:
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Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2015, 01:18:58 AM
bluh finally 0 stoned Zeus but it was JUUUUST barely and I got lucky after hitting Zeus low and only getting hit by a normal attack


also fuck wood dungeons maybe I will max out my ronia just to fuck em up
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Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2015, 01:28:20 AM
I just realized I never really took a close look at God-King's Floating Garden. I think I had built up Zeus in my head as having like ten million HP and being immune to status or something, it's actually very doable for my team as long as I don't get screwed on Chimeras. And I didn't, so easy clear. No trouble, good deal. Would kill god again.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 06, 2015, 02:30:42 AM
Hey guys, since all that's left to uvo my Athena is an angelit, I was wondering if there is any easy way to do twinlits with an LMeta team? I'm pretty sure that Lilith is required (since poison and all) so I wanna ask if it is possible with a level 1-skill lilith? (Since I got my very first Lilith very, very recently.)

Or would the usual Angelion/LValk (not mega)/Echidna/KShynee setup work?

Note: I don't wanna really use Horus for it since I'm really bad at being consistent with him.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 06, 2015, 02:51:35 AM
LMeta vs Twinlits has some high RNG, you have to stall on the first wave, and your damage is so high that skyfall can ruin it.  Over time though I got many many twinlits with LMeta though.  Echidna and Lilith are pretty required
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Post by: Thaws on January 06, 2015, 03:36:36 AM
Using Espadas's team as kind of a basis, Threedia cleared on challenge mode lol
And I felt it was easier than doing it normally.
Thanks OP friends
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Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2015, 03:37:37 AM
yeah a lot of challenge modes are stupid easy now because of super ronia
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 06, 2015, 04:09:19 AM
I should probably get on Anubis+Roniax5 on these challenge mode dungeons...
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Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2015, 04:13:17 AM
you don't even need anubis, you can one hit Zeus even with just a leader Ronia's x2.5 atkx3 atk
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Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2015, 04:22:49 AM
Also while I'm at it

Lu bu for new prong leader.

Trust me, it makes sense!
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Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2015, 04:24:46 AM
At least give him another bind resist

You should not be able to bind Lu Bu :V
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Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2015, 04:38:09 AM
At least give him another bind resist

You should not be able to bind Lu Bu :V

sorry he needs the space for prongs

five of them (though he'll already have access to gryps and dill for raw power -it really works, trust me-)
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Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2015, 04:42:26 AM
So I was thinking about elementals earlier. It's weird that their awakenings suggest that you're supposed to play them on a same-color team, but if you do then their active negates damage from the color you're already super-effective against, making it waaay less useful. They would be a lot more viable if their colors were reversed. Would you play color-swapped elementals? If they released ultimate evolutions for blue Shaitan, green Undine, and red Sylph, with awakenings to match but with the same actives, would they be more enticing? I suppose the orb enhance would become useless and they might not be strong enough to be worth bringing a resisted team into a dungeon, but they would at least make more sense than bringing a hoser for something your team already hoses. Or maybe if the actives were shuffled so that they cancelled their own types? Anyway, I want to like the elementals because I do legitimately think their actives are underrated (buying extra turns against bosses that are immune to delay is sometimes a huge deal), and the new awakenings were a step in the right direction, but I'm not sure they're there yet.
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Post by: trancehime on January 06, 2015, 04:44:09 AM
sorry he needs the space for prongs

five of them (though he'll already have access to gryps and dill for raw power -it really works, trust me-)

and also Lu Bu use a spear. let the pronging begin

So I was thinking about elementals earlier. It's weird that their awakenings suggest that you're supposed to play them on a same-color team, but if you do then their active negates damage from the color you're already super-effective against, making it waaay less useful.

psst. those Field actives are also gonna do orb enhances
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Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2015, 04:49:48 AM
psst. those Field actives are also gonna do orb enhances

They were also like that for a very long time though :v It's still a fair point on how weird they are.
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 06, 2015, 05:04:25 AM
At the same time though, are you really going to go to a dungeon with team you know gets hosed by it. I mean, if I'm going to a green dungeon, I might as well just go with my red team.
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Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2015, 05:13:34 AM
psst. those Field actives are also gonna do orb enhances

Oh I know it. I made an oblique reference to that. And maybe I should be looking at them as orb enhancers first and damage ignorers second. If I understand orb enhance it's primarily useful on teams that turn most or all of the board to one color, right? If that's the case then are the elementals ever optimal choices as orb enhancers for a particular colors?

They have about the same stats and arguably about equivalent awakenings to the mythical beasts, so at that point it's a matter of whether you need short cooldowns or not. I guess some teams (hero gods?) want short cooldowns while others (full board changes?) don't care that much.

When compared to the non-mythical beast orb enhancers (Hera-Sowilo, Beelzebub, Shiva, Athena, Hera-Ur, ultimate Hera-Is, etc.) there's no contest due to their much lower stats except in the rare case that one of the alternatives is REM-only. In fact, for the most part those alternatives are more common than the elementals. I suppose some of the descend prize orb enhancers are pretty costly though, so the elementals might make okay stopgap measures until you can afford to pay 60 or 70 for an option with higher stats, but that still doesn't exactly make them fun or desirable.

Yeah, even as orb enhancers they need help. Unless having two enhance orb awakenings actually makes a huge difference now, I don't actually know how it works currently.

 
At the same time though, are you really going to go to a dungeon with team you know gets hosed by it. I mean, if I'm going to a green dungeon, I might as well just go with my red team.

Yeah, I know right? That's why I say maybe the right way to do it would be to have them shield against their own colors. That way you're not pointlessly overkilling something you're probably going to beat anyway and not deliberately putting yourself into bad situations just to have something to use your effect against.

Although maybe if they did shield against colors they're weak against the best use for that wouldn't be for going out of your way to do dungeons that resist you, but rather to handle midbosses that resist you in dungeons that you can otherwise handle. I know I'd like an active to help against Artemis in Zeus Vulcan, and if I could slot that onto a water team without taking away from my water damage or rows I might actually consider using Undine.
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Post by: Jq1790 on January 06, 2015, 06:27:19 AM
1/8 on Verche skillups today.  Blah.
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Post by: Thaws on January 06, 2015, 06:51:21 AM
Did defour while I was at it :V
suddenly motivated to clear all these so as to save up stones to roll Verdandi
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 06, 2015, 04:14:04 PM
suddenly motivated to clear all these so as to save up stones to roll Verdandi

why do you think i cleared TEC dood im getting ultra desperate too
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 07, 2015, 07:28:14 AM
Next series is the Weapon Series, personified versions of legendary weapons, the first of which to be revealed, is Masamune

(http://i.imgur.com/ohZ85o8.jpg)

Also, apparently, Masamune will be able to change his attribute on the fly. (Details still unknown)
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Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2015, 09:54:41 AM
Next series is the Weapon Series, personified versions of legendary weapons, the first of which to be revealed, is Masamune

(http://i.imgur.com/ohZ85o8.jpg)

Also, apparently, Masamune will be able to change his attribute on the fly. (Details still unknown)

OH FUCK

THIS IS THE KIND OF SHIT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
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Post by: Espadas on January 07, 2015, 10:00:41 AM
Also, apparently, Masamune will be able to change his attribute on the fly. (Details still unknown)

If it's confirmed..... i already have a migraine thinking how that would work with LS like the Norns  :V
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Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2015, 10:11:32 AM
If it's confirmed..... i already have a migraine thinking how that would work with LS like the Norns or Lucifer  :V

IT'S GONNA SUCK BUT IT'S GONNA BE -SO COOL-

ideally they'll just swap between sub element and main element, however obviously this is garbage because you're wasting your active on this nonsense and also your cooldown might be stupid

unless they have nutso awakenings (Possible) and a short cooldown, they're gonna be clunky and :NOT WORTH:

a 'good' alternative would be to have them automatically change element based on what is more prevalent in the team and their active changes with that, but I feel that'd be legit really broken tbh

Also G/B is a skuld sub so they're obviously making more norn cards and if they just changed like that it'd probably blow for norns

edit: i'm still hype though

even if it's bad it'll be really cool

(kind of like norns whoops)
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 07, 2015, 10:14:20 AM
Yeah, it's confirmed, or at the very least these news were posted on Puzzle&Dragons' EU facebook page.

Here's the link (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsEurope/photos/a.454816801289298.1073741830.441177295986582/633436230094020/?type=1&theater).

And here's the page's quote for those too lazy to click the link:

Quote from: Puzzle & Dragons EU
Here's the artwork for upcoming character Masamune, part of a series of personified weapons! Rumor has it that Masamune possesses a special skill can be used to change his Attribute...
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Post by: trancehime on January 07, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
If it's confirmed..... i already have a migraine thinking how that would work with LS like the Norns  :V

If it came from Murako's Twitter (Which it did) then it's official.
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Post by: commandercool on January 07, 2015, 02:20:15 PM
I knew this would happen eventually, and it's just as unpleasant as I assumed it would be. My last five Legendary Seaway drops have all been Wangren. It's bad enough I'm 0/10 or something on Beyzul skillups (and Wangren skillups for that matter, but I care about those much less) but not being able to drop him at all is... Yeah, rough. This is hard.
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Post by: Jq1790 on January 07, 2015, 02:41:56 PM
If it's confirmed..... i already have a migraine thinking how that would work with LS like the Norns  :V
Use the attacking attribute when you need to hit stuff really hard, switch to defense if you're gonna GET hit really hard?
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Post by: Bio on January 07, 2015, 02:55:46 PM
You get the stat buff if you have the sub attribute so it wouldn't matter? Unless they don't give him a sub.  But they should shouldn't they.
They could just get a bunch of prongs and then you could use them on 25x teams and be able to prong on either color. A strange skill to introduce in a still strongly monocolor meta.
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Post by: Espadas on January 07, 2015, 04:14:55 PM
I knew this would happen eventually, and it's just as unpleasant as I assumed it would be. My last five Legendary Seaway drops have all been Wangren. It's bad enough I'm 0/10 or something on Beyzul skillups (and Wangren skillups for that matter, but I care about those much less) but not being able to drop him at all is... Yeah, rough. This is hard.

Urgh, skill-upping  :qq: Feel for you commander.....

I was looking at my box and there is something i need to ask: does Archangel have at least ONE niche role where she isn't outclassed by Amaterasu or someone else?
Looking at her i can't find one:
- as leader: outclassed by Valk, LMeta
- as bind-clearer sub: outclassed by Ama, Ceres
- as RCV stick: outclassed by Ama
Even in Light or Blue Healer teams she doesn't get to shine because you use other subs....

I'm asking because i look at that +20 on my HH Archangel (a remnant from when i started and didn't know pluses were so important) and i can't help but think they would be way more useful on other mons, like the Kirin i'm levelling (and it would give her a nice chunk of exp too)
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 07, 2015, 04:45:26 PM
Pluses are so overrated it's ridiculous. If you like card don't feed it. I get +eggs all the time no joke, and I don't even stone for them or run star vault.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 07, 2015, 04:53:33 PM
Twinlit form has a skill bind resist. She can be a five turn emergency heal that clears two turns of binds.

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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2015, 05:07:55 PM
Urgh, skill-upping  :qq: Feel for you commander.....

I was looking at my box and there is something i need to ask: does Archangel have at least ONE niche role where she isn't outclassed by Amaterasu or someone else?
Looking at her i can't find one:
- as leader: outclassed by Valk, LMeta
- as bind-clearer sub: outclassed by Ama, Ceres
- as RCV stick: outclassed by Ama
Even in Light or Blue Healer teams she doesn't get to shine because you use other subs....

I'm asking because i look at that +20 on my HH Archangel (a remnant from when i started and didn't know pluses were so important) and i can't help but think they would be way more useful on other mons, like the Kirin i'm levelling (and it would give her a nice chunk of exp too)

You're basically asking "why is my non-REM healer not as good as REM healers" :v

All of that said, HP restore leader skills have lost a lot of use nowadays because there's so few ways you can incorporate them as leads, since you won't be recovering enough health to make up for the much weaker attacks and lower damage you'll be dealing. Their main use remains as Odin partners, but there are so few dungeons these days that can be safely done using Odin+Healer. Odin+Ama is now way more legit now that Ama's able to do significant damage, but still.

I agree with FF though. Swap her into Twinlit form and use as skill bind AND bind resistant bind recovery with massive RCV.

As for Weapons Series that can swap attributes, I so fucking called it months ago. Wonder how it will work in practice. I can see it being pretty excellent if they have double TPA, because that'll allow you to deal extra damage in the right attribute when it counts most. Still tricky.
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Post by: Edible on January 07, 2015, 05:17:02 PM
Ugh

Mask dungeon is horseshit enough without having bad drop luck.

All I need is one ancient blue mask, people :|
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Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2015, 05:19:58 PM
i need like 20 million blue masks but all i ever get are green ones
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 07, 2015, 05:21:42 PM
i need like 20 million blue masks but all i ever get are green ones

I have like 5 blue I don't need and I need green. Trade system pls?

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Post by: Thaws on January 07, 2015, 05:47:18 PM
I have like 5 blue I don't need and I need green. Trade system pls?

I have like 10 blue currently sitting in my box. (Already used some for evolving)
Avalon is at like 4/23, one more skill lv to go. So my drops are really biased towards green right now which I'm very thankful for.

I knew this would happen eventually, and it's just as unpleasant as I assumed it would be. My last five Legendary Seaway drops have all been Wangren. It's bad enough I'm 0/10 or something on Beyzul skillups (and Wangren skillups for that matter, but I care about those much less) but not being able to drop him at all is... Yeah, rough. This is hard.

I got so many skill lvs on both twin dragons while doing Kushi and U&Y skillups :V like, skill lv8 on both :V
At least you're getting delicious pendras from it
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Post by: Espadas on January 07, 2015, 07:10:01 PM
You're basically asking "why is my non-REM healer not as good as REM healers" :v

You are right, and in fact that is the main source of my doubt because i DO have Amaterasu. :V

Granted, i really don't think i'll ever evolve her into L/L (since L/F have so much more use) but still, even in L/F form Ama can work as unbindable bind-remover....
The only advantages of Archangel over Ama are the 1k autoheal and shorter AS cooldown.

Welp, i guess i'll follow your advice anyway, in the off chance i'd need that autoheal or faster heal-on-demand....
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Post by: Edible on January 07, 2015, 07:21:58 PM
Thanks to yesterday's tamadras, I got my second U&Y and my Reine fully awoken.

Now I have UNLIMITED TPA POWER
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2015, 08:19:57 PM
I fully awakened my Ronia yesterday and got enough in addition that I should have enough to fully awaken FA Luci once I get two dub-amelits to evolve him.

I need two red fruits tomorrow to ult Ronia. :ohdear:
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Post by: Espadas on January 07, 2015, 08:55:08 PM
I fully awakened Shiva and Marine Rider (altho i didn't preawaken his final form, so i still miss the last 3)

Madoka, if you ult Ronia check the new team cost beforehand..... When i uevoed mine i discovered too late that i couldn't bring my best team anymore  :derp:
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Post by: commandercool on January 07, 2015, 09:31:47 PM
I got so many skill lvs on both twin dragons while doing Kushi and U&Y skillups :V like, skill lv8 on both :V
At least you're getting delicious pendras from it

Jealoooous.

And no I'm not, all I ever get is pirates, Wangrens, and nothings. And of course I don't have anything that skills up with pirates.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2015, 09:33:23 PM
Madoka, if you ult Ronia check the new team cost beforehand..... When i uevoed mine i discovered too late that i couldn't bring my best team anymore  :derp:

My ideal ronia team is this: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1645.99.1.99.99.99.6..1240.99.1.99.99.99.4..893.99.1.99.99.99.4..1269.99.1.99.99.99.7..1552.99.1.99.99.99.4..1645.99.1.99.99.99.6

195 cost.

I have 276 cost. I think I'll be okay. ^^;

(in some cases I suppose Lu Bu could be replaced by Vampire or Pandora in a pinch, if orbs are more important than deathblows, or DMeta if rows and skill boosts are more important. Or ROdin if literal firepower/poison are necessary)

(I would consider putting Hanzo in for a full dark board, but then I couldn't pull off a double Ult Ronia 9x and would be limited to 6.25x * ~3 and I'm not sure which is better. Either way Hanzo is squishy and higher HP alternatives would be preferred)
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 07, 2015, 09:39:59 PM
You are right, and in fact that is the main source of my doubt because i DO have Amaterasu. :V

Granted, i really don't think i'll ever evolve her into L/L (since L/F have so much more use) but still, even in L/F form Ama can work as unbindable bind-remover....
The only advantages of Archangel over Ama are the 1k autoheal and shorter AS cooldown.

Welp, i guess i'll follow your advice anyway, in the off chance i'd need that autoheal or faster heal-on-demand....

Did you miss that L/L Archangel has a skill bind resist? Aside from that, I have a use for her on my LZL team - with Supergirl and Archangel as subs I've hit 80% skill bind resist. Also shorter AS cooldown is more like -a quarter of Amaterasu's cooldown- since you can reliably get Archangel skillups. 5 turn heals and 1,000 auto heal is pretty significant.
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Post by: Espadas on January 08, 2015, 01:02:23 AM
Did you miss that L/L Archangel has a skill bind resist?
......... i wish i could answer "no"....... /facepalm

Somehow, once i read "Japanese version" my brain erased the second row of Awak in the PDX's page.

Btw, i've seen that same diciture in other monsters pages..... are they all incorrect? Or Archangel's page simply hasn't been updated in a while?
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Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 01:24:29 AM
oops i still have my present egg

i'll trade it with whoever replies first :V
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 08, 2015, 01:38:44 AM
"first :V"
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Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 01:55:15 AM
"first :V"
alright lets do this :V

...wait do i even have you on my friends list
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Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2015, 02:07:23 AM
Alright, 2x skillups is up and I have five Meimei Chows. She's almost full, maybe the long nightmare is finally over?

First feed. She still hungry.
Second feed. She still hungry.
Third feed SHE'S FULL OH SHIT I DID IT. Finally. Throwing away excess skillup materials when you finish a project is one of the most satisfying things in PAD. I have two extra Wind Chasers and three extra Green Chasers.

Now if only I could get some fucking Beyzuls. Up to seven Wangrens in a row, got two more runs left in me today. We'll see what happens.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 08, 2015, 02:08:03 AM
...wait do i even have you on my friends list

You will soon, once there's a space! :V

Unless you want to give it to someone else, that's fine too.
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Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 02:10:00 AM
alright I'll stone for friend space so anyone who wants a spot add me now :V

You will soon, once there's a space! :V

Unless you want to give it to someone else, that's fine too.
btw your id in your padherder is wrong :V
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Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2015, 02:18:39 AM
People run Isis with Kali, right? I feel like I've heard that. I'm gonna send you a request for when I get my Kali team set up, feel free to turn it down if someone who can actually make use of your stuff in the immediate future can use that spot better.

Similarly I stoned for friend slots a few days ago and I have a couple left. If anybody wants at Gabriel, hypermaxed blue Valkyrie, Athena, or a hypothetical white Kali that will materialize some time in the nebulous future send me a request and hopefully I recognize you as an MOTKer and don't reject you accidentally.
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Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Fucking. Christ. Four Legendary Seaway runs today, four Wangren drops. That's eight in a row. My last run had five super kings in four floors, four of which were emerald (the only one I can't deal with with Noah). I dropped two pirates, a saphilit, and Wangren and nothing else. This is awful. It's like this dungeon is broken or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 04:05:37 AM
wait they have different actives even though they do the same thing?

wow
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2015, 04:17:45 AM
Yup. Literally identical. With freakishly large max levels. That wouldn't even be that bad if not for the fact that they're some of the most situational cards in the game, so it's pretty unlikely anyone would want to skillup both of them. At 0/10 skillups and apparently 792+ stamina required to even get one attempt anymore pretty much my only hope of ever getting Beyzul to full usability is that he'll get an ultimate evolution that works like the mystic dragons where he gets a new skill with the same maximum cooldown as his old minimum. But since the only one of the numbered dragons who gets ultimates is Zaerog repeatedly I'm not holding my breath.

Edit: Whatever, I give up for now. Even if the RNG wasn't fighting me as hard as it can it would take me so long to finish Beyzul that I might as well wait until my Kali team is ready so I won't have to spend half an hour on the dungeon every time. And I got Sun Quan finished, that was the more important part of that team anyway. Beyzul's skillups only matter in very specific dungeons or if things go terribly wrong.

The only problem with that is that now I don't know what to do with all this extra stamina on days like today. My Athena team is just short of being ready for alt dungeons, my Kali team isn't ready of legendary dungeons, and there are no good descends or urgent dungeons on. Wish I had caught one of those Zeus Vulcans earlier.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Calamity on January 08, 2015, 04:36:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVA2o8edDw

LOL

Mario collab when
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Yukarin on January 08, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
alright I'll stone for friend space so anyone who wants a spot add me now :v

added
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 08, 2015, 04:56:31 AM
Yup. Literally identical. With freakishly large max levels. That wouldn't even be that bad if not for the fact that they're some of the most situational cards in the game, so it's pretty unlikely anyone would want to skillup both of them. At 0/10 skillups and apparently 792+ stamina required to even get one attempt anymore pretty much my only hope of ever getting Beyzul to full usability is that he'll get an ultimate evolution that works like the mystic dragons where he gets a new skill with the same maximum cooldown as his old minimum. But since the only one of the numbered dragons who gets ultimates is Zaerog repeatedly I'm not holding my breath.

Edit: Whatever, I give up for now. Even if the RNG wasn't fighting me as hard as it can it would take me so long to finish Beyzul that I might as well wait until my Kali team is ready so I won't have to spend half an hour on the dungeon every time. And I got Sun Quan finished, that was the more important part of that team anyway. Beyzul's skillups only matter in very specific dungeons or if things go terribly wrong.

The only problem with that is that now I don't know what to do with all this extra stamina on days like today. My Athena team is just short of being ready for alt dungeons, my Kali team isn't ready of legendary dungeons, and there are no good descends or urgent dungeons on. Wish I had caught one of those Zeus Vulcans earlier.

You can put it off till you have any things for pirate skillups, that'd make the thing more worth the 88stam. You can also skillup pirates themselves for S-ranking purpose I guess.
If you just have too much stam to spend, have you cleared off all challenge mode stuff or bi-weekly dragon's coin dungeon versions for stones?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVA2o8edDw

LOL

Mario collab when
nintendo collabs pls
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2015, 05:13:50 AM
You can put it off till you have any things for pirate skillups, that'd make the thing more worth the 88stam. You can also skillup pirates themselves for S-ranking purpose I guess.
If you just have too much stam to spend, have you cleared off all challenge mode stuff or bi-weekly dragon's coin dungeon versions for stones?

Yeah, I'll pull something eventually that wants to eat pirates. I really wish skillups transferred to things with the same skill. That would make all the Odin Tamas in Tamadra village a lot more palatable. Load one of those up to max skill, then feed it to the appropriate Odin when you pull it to transfer all the skillups. Do that please Gungho.

Challenge dungeons are long gone, but good call on the coin dungeons. There are a few of those I can do (dragon plant infestation ha ha) to squeeze out a few more stones. Might as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 08, 2015, 05:33:05 AM
btw your id in your padherder is wrong :V

Stupid 3 being right next to 2. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on January 08, 2015, 05:45:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVA2o8edDw

LOL

Mario collab when
NO WESTERN RELEASE EVER.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 05:51:21 AM
Stupid 3 being right next to 2. :V
also present egg sent

now gimme yours >:v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 08, 2015, 06:23:41 AM
also present egg sent

now gimme yours >:v

Remind me when the machine gets reset again and sure; sent mine to my brother right at the reset (and even posted about it).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 08, 2015, 06:41:39 AM
NO WESTERN RELEASE EVER.

The NA Gungho page actually said an overseas release was announced, though "details are coming".
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 08, 2015, 07:07:29 AM
New ult evo, Dry Zaerog
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on January 08, 2015, 07:21:43 AM
The NA Gungho page actually said an overseas release was announced, though "details are coming".
They also said that about PADZ. I hold more hope for this because Nintendo however.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 08, 2015, 07:42:43 AM
Yamato Takeru details released: Dragon Subtype, as expected.

Requires dubmyth, dubrubylit, keeper of fire and 2 red dragon fruits, gains 400HP from the pre-uvo form, and gains two skill boosts and a time extension as awakenings.

Also changes to other monsters, Awoken Hades now has a 25% gravity, Mephistopheles now has an attacker subtype and -2 turn to both max and min cds... And Ult Izanagi now has a x1,5 rcv for god types, unconditional, instead of the stupid x3,5RCV at above 80% HP.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 08, 2015, 07:52:15 AM
Mephistopheles now has an attacker subtype and -2 turn to both max and min cds...

YES
YES PLEASE THANK YOU

he becomes something good for both Amaterasu and Thor at the same time
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 08, 2015, 08:59:15 AM
Today shall be the Great Trifruit Harvest in search of Red Fruits. I need two more to be able to ult Ronia.

Round 1: Blue Fruit
Round 2: Gulp! (What the hell is it with this game and starving my Athena team of light orbs AS WELL AS dark orbs to change into light?)
Round 3: Super Gulp! (Fucked up my kill shot, KO'd the Blue and Red fruits without even hurting the green one. Doesn't matter, Red didn't drop anyway.)

This is going to be a pain.

EDIT:
Popped a stone for stamina because I'm bored.

Round 4: Super Gulp! (Only I could set up a near solid board of light and fuck up a simple solitary TPA at the top. Would have been a green drop anyway and I already have like four of those.)

Waiting on my +297 Athena friends to come around again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Invisible on January 08, 2015, 09:26:42 AM
Oh, you thought PadZ? NOE. :derp:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/7/7512563/puzzle-dragons-super-mario-bros-nintendo-3ds-gungho
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 02:04:14 PM
Remind me when the machine gets reset again and sure; sent mine to my brother right at the reset (and even posted about it).
...:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 08, 2015, 02:07:45 PM
Oh, I forgot to do the present egg thing whoops
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: triangles on January 08, 2015, 03:58:03 PM
Yo send it to me I forgot too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 08, 2015, 04:05:52 PM
Sent.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: triangles on January 08, 2015, 04:09:07 PM
ENJOY YOUR DRAGONS

I'm so glad I didn't lose my Puzzlemon stuff when I lost basically everything else on my phone I hate smartphones and smartphone sd cards technology is dumb.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 08, 2015, 04:15:48 PM
For what it's worth, I have never had an SD card fail :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: triangles on January 08, 2015, 04:22:22 PM
I never did either!  At the very least any time I experienced a dud SD card it was recoverable  :(

In actual puzzlemon news I'm so behind keeping up with things but I want to start Kirin'ing - should I focus on classic or Santa Kirin?  The latter is really cute so that's a plus if all else is equal or close enough.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 08, 2015, 04:37:04 PM
If you're running a straight healer team, definitely santa kirin.

Keep in mind that Verche is a pretty staple presence on kirin teams, and he doesn't really have a solid healer equivalent.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 04:37:11 PM
if you have santa then go santa
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 08, 2015, 04:40:03 PM
I never did either!  At the very least any time I experienced a dud SD card it was recoverable  :(

In actual puzzlemon news I'm so behind keeping up with things but I want to start Kirin'ing - should I focus on classic or Santa Kirin?  The latter is really cute so that's a plus if all else is equal or close enough.

do santa kirin with ecchi lmeta valk supergirl (oh god I just reccomended supergirl)

i'm not saying it'll be good, but we have to live the santa kirin hype vicariously through -someone-
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 08, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
do santa kirin with ecchi lmeta valk supergirl (oh god I just reccomended supergirl)

i'm not saying it'll be good, but we have to live the santa kirin hype vicariously through -someone-

Yeah, and I'm not doing it anytime soon. Btw, when's that lmeta skill-up dungeon coming. They said it'll be coming in January. Think it'll show up next week?I might go Angelion over Supergirl though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 08, 2015, 04:57:21 PM
http://pad.skyozora.com/news/1068

Weapon Series, I'm not gonna bother with the names.

Things they share in common:
Awakenings - 2 skill boosts and 2 TPA
No leader skill
Attacker type
Active skill max cd 5 turns

Red weapon 2916/1719/221
Active: For 1 turn, change its own element to green. For 1 turn, attackers ATKx1.5.

Blue weapon 2601/1750/300
Active: For 1 turn, change its own element to red. For 1 turn, attackers ATKx1.5.

Green weapon 2304/2006/251
Active: For 1 turn, change its own element to blue. For 1 turn, attackers ATKx1.5.

Light weapon 3101/1708/188
Active: For 1 turn, change its own element to red. For 1 turn, attackers ATKx1.5.

Dark weapon 2502/1852/271
Active: For 1 turn, change its own element to blue. For 1 turn, attackers ATKx1.5.


Sounds very gimmicky. Note that they're probably silver eggs since their final forms are 5 stars.
They also announced that with the introduction of this series, Valkyrie (light only) and Tricolour Golems will be removed the gacha completely. While toy dragons (I think only the 3 star version) have their pull rate lowered. ABOUT TIME!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 05:04:35 PM
rip golems

you will not be missed at all
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: triangles on January 08, 2015, 05:07:08 PM
do santa kirin with ecchi lmeta valk supergirl (oh god I just reccomended supergirl)

i'm not saying it'll be good, but we have to live the santa kirin hype vicariously through -someone-

I am proud to be that someone :salute:
I clearly don't care as much about being SUPER #1 OPTIMIZED PUZZLEMON PLAYER so time to start the Tamadras!

EDIT: godspeed G O L E M F E S T
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 08, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
Don't worry guys, light golems and dark golems still love you.
Why aren't they also removed argggg just make that whatever dungeon that you get them a coin dungeon or something if the only concern is that they're not available from PEM
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 08, 2015, 05:14:41 PM
More like why don't light/dark golems have ult evos?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 08, 2015, 05:16:37 PM
They also announced that with the introduction of this series, Valkyrie (light only) and Tricolour Golems will be removed the gacha completely. While toy dragons (I think only the 3 star version) have their pull rate lowered. ABOUT TIME!

Noooo! I still miss the Blue Golem! ~~~
..................AS IF!

About time indeed!  :dragonforce:

Regarding the new weapon set.... this is just a knee-jerk reaction so don't look too much into it, but to me it seems like they were made to be placeholders for those people building TPA teams but lacking certain powerful subs. Those AS are REALLY gimmicky....

Or maybe they noticed that even after L/F Ama and co. non-dark Attackers are still underdogs  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 08, 2015, 06:10:12 PM
Tricolour Golems will be removed the gacha completely.

and so a long standing pad tradition dies.

rip golemfest2k15
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 08, 2015, 07:10:01 PM
and so a long standing pad tradition dies.

rip golemfest2k15

The light/dark ones are still there though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 08, 2015, 08:08:30 PM
Now's a good time to paste this in, probably.

Souls of the Forest*
 [Duration]: 1/9 (Fri), 12:00 AM - 1/18 (Sun), 11:59 PM (PST)

The world shakes off the weight of the previous year, and the monsters of Puzzle & Dragons begin to commune again with their attributes.

The Forest is alive and filled with energy, a marvelous beauty to behold.

■① Daily Login Bonuses
 1/9 - 1/18 - 1 free Magic Stone
 *Bonuses will be distributed as late as 3:59 AM (PST) the following day.

■② Arcane Mysteries
 Behind hidden glades, oaken doors, and stone-carved runes, immense power is contained. If you search hard enough, you too can unlock this power.

1/10 - 1/11 - Extreme Hera Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear!*
 1/13 - 1/15 - Watery Temptress
 1/17 - 1/18 - Extreme God Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear!*

■③ Special Event Content
 1/16 - 1/18 - ????????????

■④ Pal Egg Machine Update
 The Pal Egg Machine has received a new addition! Bone Fish, along with Firon, Waron, Winron, Shiron, and Shadron, will become available with the start of this event!

Pal Egg Event:
 1/9 - 1/18 - Rare Evo Materials

■⑤ Special Event Dungeon Schedule
 The Spirit Jewels are active from 1/9 to 1/18! This event also features a unique 1.5x chance for Spirit Jewels to descend!

See here for details: http://on.fb.me/1swdWlb

1/9 - Thoth & Sopdet Descended!
 1/9 - Gaia Descended!
 1/10 - Beelzebub Descended!
 1/10 - Hera-Sowilo Descended!
 1/11 - The Goddess Descended!
 1/11 - Guan Yinping!
 1/12 - Hera-Beorc Descended!
 1/12 - Noah Descended!
 1/13 - Hera-Is Descended!
 1/14 - Mephisto Descended!
 1/15 - Hera-Ur Descended!
 1/16 - Cauchemar Descended!
 1/17 - The Thief Descended!
 1/18 - Satan Descended!

■⑥ Awesome Daily Bonuses

Dungeon Bonus:
 5x chance for +Eggs to appear in Technical Dungeons
 2x King appearance rates for the Metal and Jewel Dragons
 Fusion Bonus:
 2x chance for 'GREAT!' or 'SUPER!!' EXP Gain
 2x Skill Up rate
 Drop Bonus:
 2x Drops for the Daily Special Dungeons
 2x Coins for the Weekend Dungeon

*Events subject to change without notice or compensation - see event policy here: http://tinyurl.com/cj7zu4t
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
time to farm some motherfuckin jewels
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2015, 08:39:22 PM
Yeah, I'll build up a backlog. Jewel me, game.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 08, 2015, 08:49:15 PM
hey another shot at water jewels

on beelzebub


I guess I'm doing this again. Thanks, GungHo.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 09, 2015, 01:27:45 AM
Chirei noticed something scary.

The Dark Skydragons are coming.

Prepare your 6*s.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 09, 2015, 01:30:41 AM
Just did five runs of Gold/Metal Outbreak and got five baby Tamas. Daaaaamn. I was going in primarily to get baby golds to evolve the baby Tamas I got from Tamadra retreat earlier, but I ended up with more new Tamas than I did gold babies. Once I get all of those little bastards evolved I'll be just one Tama short of awakening both of my Kalis and my white mega Valkyrie once Fat Dragon comes back. Everything's coming up Milhouse (well, except the Legendary Seaway thing yesterday, but WHATEVER, MOM).

Edit: Wait, Dark Skydragons are farmable? I assumed they were REM this whole time. And they awaken themselves without evolving so you don't have to mess around with Tamadras. This makes breaking dungeons with their resists a lot easier than I had been assuming it was.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 09, 2015, 02:04:14 AM
Just did five runs of Gold/Metal Outbreak and got five baby Tamas. Daaaaamn. I was going in primarily to get baby golds to evolve the baby Tamas I got from Tamadra retreat earlier, but I ended up with more new Tamas than I did gold babies. Once I get all of those little bastards evolved I'll be just one Tama short of awakening both of my Kalis and my white mega Valkyrie once Fat Dragon comes back. Everything's coming up Milhouse (well, except the Legendary Seaway thing yesterday, but WHATEVER, MOM).

Edit: Wait, Dark Skydragons are farmable? I assumed they were REM this whole time. And they awaken themselves without evolving so you don't have to mess around with Tamadras. This makes breaking dungeons with their resists a lot easier than I had been assuming it was.
Well, you still need to have the RNG give you the one you want,and successfully get its egg out without them breathing death and destruction all over you, but yes.

EDIT:  Oh right this is a thing that happened.

(http://i.imgur.com/0myqIKe.jpg)

Second try, no-stoned.  First attempt failed due to too much light wherein I couldn't make TPAs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2015, 02:36:39 AM
i died to holy dragon knight with athena

on MASTER

what the fuck i made three 4 prongs and it didnt kill and i died what the fuck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2015, 02:38:50 AM
Chirei noticed something scary.

The Dark Skydragons are coming.

Prepare your 6*s.

Might be Gravis also, since for some reason PDX has his data and dungeon fully translated and not the PADZ descend, but it's in the air for now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 09, 2015, 03:33:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/fn9t2gI.png) (http://i.imgur.com/H3Q9JRj.png)

I win, first attempt 0-stone
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2015, 11:55:41 AM
just another day

(http://i.imgur.com/7X9BqtH.png)

what do i even do with 4 of these they're slowly taking over my box
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 09, 2015, 01:34:44 PM
You could skill-up ADQ Hera-Ur.... :V

Or are you waiting to drop someone specific?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2015, 01:47:25 PM
You could skill-up ADQ Hera-Ur.... :V

Or are you waiting to drop someone specific?

I've thought about Ur, but I can't really see myself using a setup where her active would be great for me. 10% gravity isn't anything to write home about, and I actually almost never specifically stack fire damage on my Leilan team. Athena fills a much better role as an enhancer and hits far harder than Hera-Ur does, unfortunately. My Devil roster is also pretty small I think, and I'm not quite itching to build a new team right now.

I guess I don't really need Py for anyone specific right now - I also have 2 Badpy sitting with nothing to do, so for the most part they're just kinda "there" until I find a unit I really like but I think would overall be less headache to just use the Py to skill them up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 09, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
I've thought about Ur, but I can't really see myself using a setup where her active would be great for me. 10% gravity isn't anything to write home about, and I actually almost never specifically stack fire damage on my Leilan team. Athena fills a much better role as an enhancer and hits far harder than Hera-Ur does, unfortunately. My Devil roster is also pretty small I think, and I'm not quite itching to build a new team right now.

I guess I don't really need Py for anyone specific right now - I also have 2 Badpy sitting with nothing to do, so for the most part they're just kinda "there" until I find a unit I really like but I think would overall be less headache to just use the Py to skill them up.

I'll gladly take those Flampy off your hands, since I actually use Hera-Ur presently to enhance my fire orbs for Trifruit farming. 'v'
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2015, 04:08:58 PM
>Decide to do one run of T&S Mythical
>Get to wave 3 with little problems
>"Hey uhh Flame Chaser I don't remember you being a girl- WAIT THAT'S NOT FLAME CHASER AAAA"

(http://i.imgur.com/5XR3rsF.png)

Somehow Thoth decided to be a jackass with the bind attack so I ended up taking 18 turns to defeat them both this time. Thankfully never died during the run.

I guess I'm ready to ult both Femme and Claire once I get a Light Jewel.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 09, 2015, 04:23:15 PM
Can an Athena team (which is to say, my Athena team) handle Sky Prison consistently? I want Kali skillups when they switch over.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
Can an Athena team (which is to say, my Athena team) handle Sky Prison consistently? I want Kali skillups when they switch over.

(worst scenario for consistency's sake)
You have to deal with 3 dubs on 2 timer on wave 2, and then a constantly binding baby tama on wave 3, which may hit your leaders and cause death, so unless you have protection against those things and still have enough firepower for the boss without hitting the Angelit below 50% I'm gonna go ahead and say no.

EDIT: There seems to be an Athena build on PDX but it seems too luck-based for wave 2. I'll give it maybe 60% win rate at the most.
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Post by: commandercool on January 09, 2015, 04:40:26 PM
Sounds plausible. You think GZL skillups would change that? At max skill he would be able to defense break very early and maybe just sweep everything.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2015, 04:45:48 PM
Sounds plausible. You think GZL skillups would change that? At max skill he would be able to defense break very early and maybe just sweep everything.

You'd need 6 Skillboosts at the minimum. Also in doing this you have no enhance left for the boss (Athena can still probably take them out though). Skilled Athena would probably be required so you can use her enhance to make up for lack of boost.
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Post by: commandercool on January 09, 2015, 04:53:16 PM
You'd need 6 Skillboosts at the minimum. Also in doing this you have no enhance left for the boss (Athena can still probably take them out though). Skilled Athena would probably be required so you can use her enhance to make up for lack of boost.

I got exactly six skillboosts and some skillupped Athena friends. Still need the GZL skillups (and to mega evolve Valkyrie) of course though, so this won't be happening for a while.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 09, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
A glorious bastard
(http://i.imgur.com/9TqmBd4l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/9TqmBd4)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 09, 2015, 07:47:19 PM
...a max King Shynee. Good lord, well played. How long did that take you?
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 09, 2015, 07:51:30 PM
A million years ago...


Real answer: about five months of actually trying. Four earlier this year and then decided to finish recently
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2015, 07:59:50 PM
jesus shit

If Arcline ever came out and you got him I think feeding this guy away for eggs would be a bad idea
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 09, 2015, 08:02:07 PM
jesus shit

If Arcline ever came out and you got him I think feeding this guy away for eggs would be a bad idea

I'm not going to do that anymore. You taught me a great way to get those pluses
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Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2015, 08:24:59 PM
jesus shit

If Arcline ever came out and you got him I think feeding this guy away for eggs would be a bad idea
If Arcline ever came out
ever came out
dont do this to me man
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Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2015, 09:43:20 PM
dont do this to me man

na confirmed not getting dark souls collab
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Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2015, 12:04:30 AM
i gather a million baby tamadras and i cant get any toplits so i just get rid of them all

NOW I JUST NEED 1 DARKLIT BUT ONLY TOPALITS DROP WHY

oh my god spent all of my stamina AND NOT A SINGLE DROP ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 10, 2015, 01:55:57 AM
hoarding intensifies

(http://i.imgur.com/EbqgIqN.png)
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 10, 2015, 01:57:01 AM
So much for a "1 in 6000" drop, holy shit.
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Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2015, 02:04:03 AM
meanwhile im burning my stamina on essentially nothing :ohdear:
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 10, 2015, 02:04:43 AM
The funny part is that the pys are just a bonus

I'm just mashing this to get to 198 stamina for double 99-stam dungeon stuff, and my red/black valks are now level 99 also
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 10, 2015, 03:22:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/eMglLRN.jpg)

Tomorrow I'll get my Beelzebub, switch over to the Devil side, put Purin in team slot 1 and never use Byakko again.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 10, 2015, 03:25:38 AM
Tomorrow I'll get my Beelzebub, switch over to the Devil side, put Purin in team slot 1 and never use Byakko again.

Well, at least you have bragging rights for having hypermaxed a monster!
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Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2015, 03:37:30 AM
i have
5 red dubs
5 blue dubs
5 green dubs
5 yellow dubs
10 myth dubs
0 dark dubs WHICH I NEED

what did i do to deserve this
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 10, 2015, 03:40:52 AM
If I can get three more Shypy I'll have Purin hypermaxed, too!
Maybe. Supergirl really wants those, too.
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Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2015, 05:51:17 AM
2 more runs still 0 dark dubs

this is actually so stupid
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 10, 2015, 05:54:28 AM
Dub-Amelits seem to be super rare today. I've spent all of my stamina from the start of the day to about 9 PM and finally managed to get the two I needed to evo FA Luci once. I still need one more if I want to get his ult but oh my god I want to get back into cosita before I run out of time :(
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Post by: commandercool on January 10, 2015, 06:45:36 AM
I had just something happen in-game that I didn't realize was possible and I am now seriously alarmed by. I was in Thoth And Sopdet on the last floor trying to evaluate if I could burst down the bosses or if I needed to wait for a better board state. While I was doing that my phone died, and when I plugged it in and turned it back on I was back on the second floor. What just happened? How?
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 10, 2015, 06:54:41 AM
I had just something happen in-game that I didn't realize was possible and I am now seriously alarmed by. I was in Thoth And Sopdet on the last floor trying to evaluate if I could burst down the bosses or if I needed to wait for a better board state. While I was doing that my phone died, and when I plugged it in and turned it back on I was back on the second floor. What just happened? How?

Wild guess:  The game has an auto save feature to keep your place in case the game crashes or something.  It keeps 2 saves of your current state and rotates the oldest one out once a save is completed safely.  Your phone died during a save operation, corrupting the latest save, so it reverted back to the previous save, which was earlier in the dungeon.
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Post by: commandercool on January 10, 2015, 07:03:53 AM
Wild guess:  The game has an auto save feature to keep your place in case the game crashes or something.  It keeps 2 saves of your current state and rotates the oldest one out once a save is completed safely.  Your phone died during a save operation, corrupting the latest save, so it reverted back to the previous save, which was earlier in the dungeon.

Interesting. Well, that's not too worrying then I guess. A few minutes later I had something similar happen where my semi-broken phone reset itself while I was trying to turn it back on after plugging it in. It reset a second time, to the same place as the first time. So it's a weird/interesting phenomenon, but hopefully not game-breaking or anything.

For the record, the spawns in the dungeon were the same the second and third times. Red chaser every time, no invades. That's probably obvious, but that's what happened.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 10, 2015, 07:17:16 AM
NOTICE ME SENPAI, NOTICE ME!

(http://i.imgur.com/oziqOBAl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/oziqOBA)
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 10, 2015, 01:23:54 PM
Decided to do some Sowilo Mythical today instead of Beelz since I realized it's pointless to attempt skilling him up and this happened

(http://i.imgur.com/jOeIYSk.png)

I am so glad I fed Athena those plus eggs earlier this week

NOTICE ME SENPAI, NOTICE ME!

senpai is asleep please leave your message after the beep

beeeeeeep
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 10, 2015, 02:06:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xJRRI1z.jpg)
BEWARE, I LIVE
RUN, RUN, RUN
I AM SINISTAR
RUN, COWARD
RAAAAAAAAAWWWRRRGH
BEWARE, COWARD

I HUNGER
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Post by: trancehime on January 10, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
Wild guess:  The game has an auto save feature to keep your place in case the game crashes or something.  It keeps 2 saves of your current state and rotates the oldest one out once a save is completed safely.  Your phone died during a save operation, corrupting the latest save, so it reverted back to the previous save, which was earlier in the dungeon.

Actual answer:

Connecting to the server only occurs at two points when you enter a dungeon:
1. Entering the dungeon
2. Collecting your rewards from the dungeon, assuming you clear it

When you're INSIDE the dungeon, your game state is saved locally on your phone. I've force-killed PAD before and retained my dungeon progress after opening it again.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 10, 2015, 02:32:19 PM
Actual answer:

Connecting to the server only occurs at two points when you enter a dungeon:
1. Entering the dungeon
2. Collecting your rewards from the dungeon, assuming you clear it

When you're INSIDE the dungeon, your game state is saved locally on your phone. I've force-killed PAD before and retained my dungeon progress after opening it again.

I was talking about the local save state.  =\

Saving at the server at the start and end of dungeons doesn't explain why he went back to the 2nd floor, and I based my guess off of what I know about how Pokemon works.
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Post by: trancehime on January 10, 2015, 02:42:38 PM
I was talking about the local save state.  =\

Saving at the server at the start and end of dungeons doesn't explain why he went back to the 2nd floor, and I based my guess off of what I know about how Pokemon works.

No, it push-sends your game's current state to the server on dungeon entry / game over / dungeon clear. AFAIK the state is cached so I guess it's pretty similar to your "save state" analogy assuming that cache is rotated. But eh.
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Post by: commandercool on January 10, 2015, 04:35:12 PM
Beelzebub and blue orb zero-stoned. Get got motorcycle man. Hera-Sowilo mythical not got, evolved demons are hardest thing in any dungeon.

No, it push-sends your game's current state to the server on dungeon entry / game over / dungeon clear. AFAIK the state is cached so I guess it's pretty similar to your "save state" analogy assuming that cache is rotated. But eh.

So do you have a guess as to what did happen? Or did you give one and I missed it?
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 10, 2015, 04:55:13 PM
Okay, Verche max skilled, I can stop wasting stamina on that dungeon.

Now, how bad of an idea would it be to max skill a Voice for the purposes of a Pandora Team? He has no rows, after all.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 10, 2015, 05:10:33 PM
Oh lordy. I can pair up with a Ronia on my Beelzebub team and still survive a Dub-Lit hit in the alternate dungeons.

Time to put my friend list to use. Considering I have zero Beelzebub friends...
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Post by: Bio on January 10, 2015, 05:45:09 PM
Now, how bad of an idea would it be to max skill a Voice for the purposes of a Pandora Team? He has no rows, after all.
Pandora isn't top tier without her ideal team or variant of it, they also have to be skilled as well. Decent idea if every other sub can cover for rows so you can still enjoy Pandora goodness.
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Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2015, 06:23:41 PM
Beelzebub and blue orb zero-stoned. Get got motorcycle man. Hera-Sowilo mythical not got, evolved demons are hardest thing in any dungeon.
dual demons and chimera always get an echidna delay from me
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 10, 2015, 06:29:20 PM
dual demons and chimera always get an echidna delay from me

I seem to choke everytime I do something hard. I get a perfectly good board and I screw it up. Just died on the demons just now. Last time I died on Vampire Lord.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 10, 2015, 06:31:05 PM
I cheesed Hera-Sowilo with Ceres, so yeah I didn't really have any issues...
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 10, 2015, 06:36:28 PM
I really need to get Lmeta online. These flash binds really hurt.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 10, 2015, 07:37:46 PM
I just 7star away the demons because eff that noise. Maxskill Leilan also helps a lot.
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Post by: commandercool on January 10, 2015, 07:45:32 PM
So my phone is crazy broken now. It keeps resetting for no reason. The on button sometimes works, sometimes doesn't do anything, and sometimes fully resets my phone. I just had it reset for no reason, kick me out of the dungeon I was in, and wipe all of my game settings. Fuck.

dual demons and chimera always get an echidna delay from me

I should just Sun Quan them but I always convince myself I don't have to. The hubriiiis.

Speaking of Sun Quan, we should be seeing his ultimate sometime in the next month probably, right? You think he'll get Liu Bei's two-prong overload, or something different?
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Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2015, 09:58:14 PM
good news, hera-sol is pretty easy to no stone even on mythical

bad news, NO JEWEL INVADESSSS
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 10, 2015, 11:00:16 PM
I should not be allowed to play this game

(http://i.imgur.com/MEObtpT.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Pjf1SKx.png)

(There's still the flampy from challenge 6 in the mailbox too)
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 10, 2015, 11:55:32 PM
Speaking of Sun Quan, we should be seeing his ultimate sometime in the next month probably, right? You think he'll get Liu Bei's two-prong overload, or something different?

Well, it seemed like it at first, but the only one from R3k to even get an uvo announced so far has been Liu Bei, sure, it kinda started the same way with the Heroes, but they already announced (and released) three uvos so who knows when Sun Quan will get his.
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Post by: commandercool on January 11, 2015, 12:48:32 AM
I should not be allowed to play this game

(http://i.imgur.com/MEObtpT.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Pjf1SKx.png)

(There's still the flampy from challenge 6 in the mailbox too)

Aw jealous. I wish I had those for Misato. Soon as I get another fat dragon, which I hear should be soon, I'll go get my own. Gonna make Misato real.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 11, 2015, 01:21:53 AM
I hope Antonio announces days until fatty guerrilla timer because I'm pretty anxious too. Though I still have a few dozen ranks or so left to mash before I can feel safe running multifattys.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 11, 2015, 03:27:36 AM
Okay what is happening here I thought these guys were supposed to be hard to get

(http://i.imgur.com/nMoDi7j.png)
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Post by: commandercool on January 11, 2015, 04:21:58 AM
Just did my first handful of alt dungeons. Yup, this is easy. My teams is nowhere near maxed and I can totally handle this.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 11, 2015, 04:33:07 AM
Just did my first handful of alt dungeons. Yup, this is easy. My teams is nowhere near maxed and I can totally handle this.

Even though the guys that drop aren't going to be the same element - max out your team using those guys. It'll make literally everything else in the game fucking cake.
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Post by: commandercool on January 11, 2015, 04:58:59 AM
Even though the guys that drop aren't going to be the same element - max out your team using those guys. It'll make literally everything else in the game fucking cake.

Ha ha yup. Already there. Guess Thursday Dungeon is my new best friend forever.
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Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2015, 06:55:36 AM
Finally sexy Hera-Is get oh baby
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Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2015, 08:35:56 AM
based mei first run invade

only a tiger to catch by the toe left until U N L I M I T E D P O W E R
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Post by: Espadas on January 11, 2015, 03:57:41 PM
Oh come onnnnn.... 5 Goddess Mythical and zero invade. Meimeiiiiii plizzzz  :qq:

At this rate i'll maxskill Valk using herself!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 11, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
So I guess I don't really have enough Athena friends to really farm alt dungeons for all they're worth. If anyone on MOTK often has an Athena that they use often and isn't my friend yet, please consider sending me a request.

I had to try some other things to make up for it, and they worked. I used TamadraPurin and green/black Meimei and didn't have any significant problems, although Meimei feels just a little risky, especially since she reduces my light damage significantly. What else works for this?

Amaterasu could work. She only buffs half of my team and I'm not sure how big of a deal that is. Her leader skill could let me arrange my board in situations where I wouldn't otherwise be able to, and her active is situationally useful.

Girl Thor is similar to Amaterasu, but gives more HP and way less recovery. Lack of two-prongs is worrying.

Zeus Olympios seems like a solid choice. He's a little risky and his active is almost certainly useless unless I see multiple masks, but his damage is huge.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 11, 2015, 07:18:11 PM
Friend this guy, he's always up in my list and his Athena is almost hypermaxed

332,459,249
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 11, 2015, 08:11:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tsyU7Tjl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/tsyU7Tj.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/K7lElzil.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/K7lElzi.jpg)

Why I haven't been using Orochi as much, I have no clue. Force is too good when it's actually applicable.

(the gold egg wasn't a green jewel, though, sadness)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 11, 2015, 10:20:09 PM
Welp, Valk's minions beat my face in when I decided to run her dungeon just to see how I would do.

The second run was just me trying Mythical to figure out how far I had to come; ult Beelze makes a fun Soniafriend.

The first run though, I go into wave 3(Legend), expect to see a giant golem and instead get my head smashed by Meimei because my first run team was Athena and thus had next to no RCV.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 11, 2015, 11:10:04 PM
Welp, Valk's minions beat my face in when I decided to run her dungeon just to see how I would do.

The second run was just me trying Mythical to figure out how far I had to come; ult Beelze makes a fun Soniafriend.

The first run though, I go into wave 3(Legend), expect to see a giant golem and instead get my head smashed by Meimei because my first run team was Athena and thus had next to no RCV.

8 runs, 0 invades  :matsuriscowl:
F**k this, i'm not going to stone for it....
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Post by: Jq1790 on January 11, 2015, 11:44:44 PM
8 runs, 0 invades  :matsuriscowl:
F**k this, i'm not going to stone for it....
If you are hunting on Legend, good luck.  It may be on 1.5x right now IIRC, but Legend dungeons are notorious for having terrible rates for Chinagirl invades.  I was just especially (un)lucky.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 12, 2015, 12:32:19 AM

The second run was just me trying Mythical to figure out how far I had to come; ult Beelze makes a fun Soniafriend.

That wasn't my Beelzebub, was it? I'm still in the process of making him super hardcore awesome for Ronia and other Beelzebubs alike.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 12, 2015, 01:32:15 AM
That wasn't my Beelzebub, was it? I'm still in the process of making him super hardcore awesome for Ronia and other Beelzebubs alike.
Yyyyyep it was,in fact!
Didnt realize his Atk was so high til I looked at him.  He'll be really good once he's fully Awoken and stuff, for sure.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 12, 2015, 03:16:57 AM
If you are hunting on Legend, good luck.  It may be on 1.5x right now IIRC, but Legend dungeons are notorious for having terrible rates for Chinagirl invades.  I was just especially (un)lucky.

No, those were all Mythical runs.

Btw, your comment about Belze made me take a look at him (never bothered to check his stats before).... DAAAAMN! Fast AS, sky-high atk, double TPA and SB, good LS..... got almost no weak point beside low hp/rcv

Then you see his cost and especially evo mats and weep  :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 12, 2015, 03:37:23 AM
Beelzebub is basically the dark TPA guy. The problem with him is that his LS isn't as popular as Athena's due to lower ATK boost and far harder to acquire subs - not to mention he requires all five jewels as opposed to Athena's two. As a hard-hitting sub he's fantastic though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 12, 2015, 05:06:46 AM
Lack of Lucis being used today made me a little desperate.

(http://i.imgur.com/l0C84Jll.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/l0C84Jl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/06qS8Dal.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/06qS8Da.jpg)

Just a little.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 12, 2015, 05:53:04 AM
I think Beelzebub is a lot more... on focus at what he does than Athena with the exception of a lower attack multiplier.

Oh, poison attacks deal huge damage to 4x HP leads? Beelzebub has a poison block. He's no longer sub-water? Cool, replace the water enhance on his active with a heal which is always useful.

Second highest attack in NA? Give him two TPAs so he can wreck face. Almost all good devils have dark rows? Slap him on a hybrid team and let his two skill boosts do amazing things for a team.

The only -eh- awoken skill he has is the blind resist but the other -seven- more than make up for it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 12, 2015, 02:16:43 PM
Okay so I guess Isis is cool sometimes

(http://i.imgur.com/A72A0vQ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Ce2SrqE.png) (http://i.imgur.com/gBsuhnj.png)

Not sure if I want to keep running this for Kirin, wave 4 is the pits
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 12, 2015, 02:38:57 PM
So I randomly checked PAD last night and suddenly Super Golds.

300 stamina later Athena is maxed, Verche has gained 9 levels, and GZL gained about 3.

Dont think that was too bad overall.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2015, 03:06:01 PM
Noah 0 stoned yeah BV

Okay so I guess Isis is cool sometimes

(http://i.imgur.com/A72A0vQ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Ce2SrqE.png) (http://i.imgur.com/gBsuhnj.png)

Not sure if I want to keep running this for Kirin, wave 4 is the pits
Welcome to the master race BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 12, 2015, 04:15:21 PM
- When do you realize the RNG is a ruddy bastard?
When after 9 runs of one of the easiest descent with the easiest invade you got invaded zero times, and the first time you attempt an hard descent with a mismatched team you get invaded on floor 2 by the strongest one

- When do you realize the RNG is EVEN MORE of a ruddy bastard?
When even after clearing 3/4 of the screen you get repeatedly heart-trolled exactly before needing to tank an hit

- When do you realize GOdin is the best sub ever created?
When literally every-single-time you got heart-trolled Godin's 2k autoheal was just enough to let you tank the hit, and the one time it wasn't enough.... GUNGNIR!

- When do you realize probability goes out the window when the Ruddy Bastard? is concerned?
When you have to meet 2 out of 5 possible monsters and you get the only one with a OHKO atk on 1 turn AND the only one with an elemental advantage over you + the highest hp of all + a OHKO atk <50%

- When do you realize some monsters are so OP that they let you do epic things?




WHEN YOU JUST FREAKING 0-STONED NOAH MYTHICAL WITH RONIA + WHAT YOU HAD AVAILABLE IN THE BOX!! 8)

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-12-15-50-34_zps32c352f6.png)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-12-15-51-23_zps9c02b9dc.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 12, 2015, 04:54:17 PM
Welcome to the master race BV

The crazy thing is that I just used Lv99 Isises for this one, I failed the initial run using yours.

Athena still doing extreme amounts of work by herself, but God Tears just kind of gives me "double damage for 5 turns" so lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 12, 2015, 05:34:12 PM
:wikipedia:

...Wow. I mean, congrats and everything but... Wow. Like I knew ronia was broken and grodin was Really Freaking Good™ but

wow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 12, 2015, 05:43:43 PM
...Wow. I mean, congrats and everything but... Wow. Like I knew ronia was broken and grodin was Really Freaking Good? but

wow.

Sorry if it was a bit hammy but i honestly didn't expect to survive even 2 floors, never mind clearing it. Wasn't trying to praise Ronia's cheapness (besides, even the rocks know it by now  :V)

I was just pissed off by my abysmal +egg drop rate even with +5 event (seriously, 6 runs between Forbidden 4 and Door of Light and Shadow and i got 2 +egg?  :X) so i went "right, let waste 50 stamina.... wanna see how long i resist" and tried it even if Ronia is somewhat crippled by the water-based enemies + all attribute restriction.... then you add all the close calls and the fact i actually 0-stoned it and i was a bit overexcited  :blush:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 12, 2015, 09:58:32 PM
Light Jewel acquired. I am now fully ready for fatty invasion.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2015, 10:36:54 PM
dammit chirei how do you consistently farm alts i keep dying to lazy combos
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2015, 11:31:32 PM
dammit chirei how do you consistently farm alts i keep dying to lazy combos

we've ascertained chirei is a robot, incapable of fatigue, emotions, and poetry

also that he has more motivation than half the thread
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 12, 2015, 11:32:56 PM
dammit chirei how do you consistently farm alts i keep dying to lazy combos

I have a very bad quality example video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0h35FmdOqc) of 9 consecutive runs since people kept asking me at one point. I'm not sure what else to say beyond that except that I just kind of fixated myself into the mindset and turned myself into the perfect killing machine(tm).

we've ascertained chirei is a robot, incapable of fatigue, emotions, and poetry

The important part is that I am also devoid of doki doki
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 12, 2015, 11:40:45 PM
I am abusing my alt dungeon power so bad. I just bought an hour of Castle Of Satan just to run it twice, rank up, and go back to technicals. I'm just going to let the rest of my time go to waste. Fuck it, I got the rest of the Sun Quan Fund to spend.

...Wow. I mean, congrats and everything but... Wow. Like I knew ronia was broken and grodin was Really Freaking Good? but

wow.

Serious, you're all like "Red Sonia is so good that even if you get terrible luck and just bring completely unrelated subs into one of the harder mythical descends she still always wins". :V No more Red Sonia please.

 :3

Edit: Not to imply that you didn't probably have to do some good combo work to win, but still. BUT STILL.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2015, 12:25:55 AM
Serious, you're all like "Red Sonia is so good that even if you get terrible luck and just bring completely unrelated subs into one of the harder mythical descends she still always wins". :V No more Red Sonia please.

no.1 leader in japan

we're stuck with her, sadly
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 13, 2015, 12:38:31 AM
No more Red Sonia please.

less red sonia more leilan
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 13, 2015, 12:47:11 AM
Can horus become top-tier again?

pretty please
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2015, 01:32:26 AM
Can horus become top-tier again?

pretty please

technically as much as i step all over him our JAPANESE OVERLORDS still have him at tenth place

you can have that!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2015, 02:00:36 AM
I gotta be honest, I think I like Ult Ronia just a bit more than Ult DMeta right now <_____<;

Though I suppose they're instrumental on each others' teams despite being typewise incompatible
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 13, 2015, 02:02:50 AM
technically as much as i step all over him our JAPANESE OVERLORDS still have him at tenth place

you can have that!

Are you sure? I mean, there just seems like there's so much stuff that outclasses him right now. Both kalis, ronia, gzl, athena, dmeta and these are the things I can list off the top of my head

Or is Attacker Horus a much bigger thing than I thought it was?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 13, 2015, 02:12:27 AM
You can put GZL or Awoken Neptune on Horus and enjoy 2x attack on another 1/3 of your team that wouldn't enjoy it otherwise. Horus himself has pretty intense ATK and not being able to fully capitalize on it sucks.

Between Athena, GZL, DMeta, Attacker Yomi, Rodin, and Awoken Neptune, you can easily cover the missing colors (Green, Blue, Dark) and just kill everything.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2015, 02:17:23 AM
Are you sure? I mean, there just seems like there's so much stuff that outclasses him right now. Both kalis, ronia, gzl, athena, dmeta and these are the things I can list off the top of my head

Or is Attacker Horus a much bigger thing than I thought it was?

Yeah.

Like I said, he's still -tenth-. Most of those (DKali the only exception) rank above him and 4x people use ronia than him.

This is just raw usage though, so he prolly has a few advantages there that don't really come in raw card vs card format.

Also the attacker knight exists in JP which makes attacker strats slightly more legit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2015, 02:41:57 AM
My roommate has been asking me to help him optimize his team. Right now he's playing Shiva, and I don't really know anything about Shiva, but this is what I came up with:

Shiva/Red Valkyrie/Misato/Strawberry Dragon or Mitsuki/Echidna/Red Odin or Shiva

How does that look? I know evaluating it without knowing all of the monsters he has isn't easy, but if I recall the only other very major ones are red Guan Yu and Asuka. How many rows is enough rows? And do you think Ifrit is worth considering as a farmable double-row sub? The fire attack boost seems like it could be a little handy too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on January 13, 2015, 04:24:25 AM
Shiva can't have enough rows.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 13, 2015, 05:12:31 AM
Red Valk + Mitsuki aaaghhh

I know I've posted about my desire to run R/B Shiva > Wangren but I think he could pull it off better what with Red Guan Yu and Strawberry Dragon being able to give emergency heals and all.

Honestly the few things that could make it better are adding Ronia or Ares.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 13, 2015, 05:46:28 AM
[00:42] <Chirei> WHOA WHAT
[00:43] <Chirei> no fucking way that did not just happen lmao
[00:45] <Chirei> I wasn't even trying and I hit the S Rank requirement exactly

(http://i.imgur.com/gyc3CZf.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2015, 08:57:45 AM
[03:54:05] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> a full bar of stamina spent, 7 hamahimes gained, 3 chasers gained
[03:54:13] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> 0/7 on hamahime feeds
[03:54:24] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> this is going to make me very angry isn't it.

Hanzo is S.Lv2, thanks to feeding him the hamahime I had when I got him before.

Current count:
Hanzo skillups 0/7
Purple Chaser count: 6

At this rate I have maybe a 1% chance of skilling Haku up once!!!!!

:persona:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 13, 2015, 12:23:26 PM
Attempted Grimoire Descend again and...

ANOTHER FUCKING CHEST

Game why :/



https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/554919596184981505

New Descend Boss "Diagoldos" who is from the Pazudora TCG.

F/L Dragon/Attacker
AS: Tail Lightning - Generates 5 light orbs randomly on the board [Max: 7CD]
LS: Protective Sword Scales - At full HP, damage taken is reduced significantly (similar to GOdin)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2015, 01:48:36 PM
[03:54:05] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> a full bar of stamina spent, 7 hamahimes gained, 3 chasers gained
[03:54:13] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> 0/7 on hamahime feeds
[03:54:24] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> this is going to make me very angry isn't it.

Hanzo is S.Lv2, thanks to feeding him the hamahime I had when I got him before.

Current count:
Hanzo skillups 0/7
Purple Chaser count: 6

At this rate I have maybe a 1% chance of skilling Haku up once!!!!!

:persona:

Alls I can say from doing this with the Wind Chaser dungeon is, the 2x drop periods really do help a lot. It really sucks that survey dungeons are up for such a short time after they initially come out. But that being the case, just be ready to go nuts on that dungeon when the droprate it boosted and you'll do better. Not well unfortunately, that really takes two weeks, but better.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2015, 02:55:33 PM
I'm 2/9 on the Hanzo skillups now, so one more and he'll be done. Got a couple more chasers too, don't have a count at the moment.

Mainly my idea is to get him skillmaxed today and focus my attention more on cosita afterward. Chasers are complete ass to evolve and there's no guarantee that even with TEN I'll even get one skillup for Haku.

Hanzo is easier. I have two, but I don't think I'll do the second one. I really don't have much need for Hanzo outside of Pandora, and even though Pandora/Ronia/Hanzo/Haku/Hanzo/Pandora is super legit, Hanzo is so stupid fucking squishy that using two would be a liability. So one is fine. I'll do the second some other time, probably next pathetically brief moment Watery Temptress comes back and I hunt for Haku skillups again.

EDIT: That was quick. Hanzo1 skillmax. I think I'll run Watery Temptress for the rest of the day and see where I am on chasers. May as well skill up the other Hanzo in the process; not like the hamahimes would be going toward anything else.

Final hamahime count on a SL2 Hanzo: 3/11
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 13, 2015, 03:58:02 PM
Hanzo is easier. I have two
The exact moment when i started hating you  :V

Joking aside, congrats on skillmaxing him. Let see how much of my soul will be gone forever after Hamahime and Neneko go away.....

On a different note.....

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-01-13-15-07-17_zps0c8aa4b0.png)

Saber Cassandra Valkyrie Reine get!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 13, 2015, 04:16:12 PM
5 runs of hera-is

0 invades

0 skill ups

>:/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2015, 06:19:02 PM
(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz304/dummy2205/Screenshot_2015-01-13-11-39-38.png)

About time I got around to doing this. Helps that I don't need infinite Green Keepers anymore. This is an extremely safe farm for me turns out, so I guess it's good that the one rare weekday material I don't have a stockpile of is the one that's easiest for me to farm. Not that I particularly have a use for them, but I guess it's good for skilluping golems.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 13, 2015, 08:47:28 PM
Yeah.

Like I said, he's still -tenth-. Most of those (DKali the only exception) rank above him and 4x people use ronia than him.

This is just raw usage though, so he prolly has a few advantages there that don't really come in raw card vs card format.

Also the attacker knight exists in JP which makes attacker strats slightly more legit.

I suspect it's just people sticking with their hyper Horus since many started out with him from their reset-marathons and so on back in the days.
or it's just a fan-favourite, like all other egypts really.

Survey 13 is currently leading with Winron and Blue Fairy. Red Guan Yu's skill up is close, but red chaser seems like it'll have to wait till the next one for a chance.
Having two Liu Beis and one unskilled Andro, I'll be a very happy Thaws if this keeps up :V double andro I&I healers teams here I go :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 13, 2015, 08:48:44 PM
Uvo'd Izanagi, Evolved Athena (Still need an angelit to uvo her though) and Horus is currently at +238, I'm getting friend requests for Horus pretty regularly lol

I guess it's about time I started working on the GZL team properly though, so that's up next... as soon as I finish tying everything up anyway. (Which is to say, max level chibi luci, angelion and valk.)

Also where's poring tower my chibi valk needs skillupppppppsssssss
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 14, 2015, 12:49:11 AM
Whoops I ragestoned Hera-Is Mythical getting the clear for a net loss of two stones.

I had thought I hit Legend then she hit me and when I saw 24000 damage(well over my max of course) I knew something was weird.

None of the other stages could tell me that since I ebded up melting them each in two turns at most, ehe.

Would have been only a net onestone clear, byt she lived with a sliver at one point.

As a bonus, I had had yet to get the drop so there's that!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2015, 01:12:46 AM
I suspect it's just people sticking with their hyper Horus since many started out with him from their reset-marathons and so on back in the days.
or it's just a fan-favourite, like all other egypts really.

This is honestly probably very much the case really- people just started and are hesitant to move.


Also.

Fuck Hera-is. No, fuck you, giving me a bad starting board five times in a row is not fucking fair. And 30% to bind? more like fucking 100% literally no fucking attempt has had them not bind me -what the fuck-.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/554919596184981505

New Descend Boss "Diagoldos" who is from the Pazudora TCG.

F/L Dragon/Attacker
AS: Tail Lightning - Generates 5 light orbs randomly on the board [Max: 7CD]
LS: Protective Sword Scales - At full HP, damage taken is reduced significantly (similar to GOdin)

... That is a larger cooldown than the sirius bros for a less predictable and still fixed number orb generate, for his off-color.

He looks badass as hell but that's just unforgivable.

Also, that's -65%-, which is weaker than the fucking -biweekly dungeon- as a descend boss.

Who the fuck designed this card and how the hell can I punch their soul out?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2015, 02:13:53 AM
Who the fuck designed this card and how the hell can I punch their soul out?
(http://i.imgur.com/8C96fa0.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2015, 02:45:32 AM
He's got spiked knux, I think he's gonna punch you out first
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2015, 03:08:15 AM
Ever since I started playing PAD I been like "Jesus, how do people even play rainbow teams? That shit seems hard". Well maybe this doesn't apply to you guys with your real actual-ass combo skills and all, but I know how I play combo teams: A metric ton of time extends and panic buttons. Thanks Kali, easing me into high-execution teams all easy mode like.

It'll be interesting to see how Kali stands up in real dungeons. So far I've only run her in True Endless Corridors and she seems pretty solid. I can't consistently get past the ancient dragon floor since my team is underleveled (one of my Kalis is level one with no awakenings), but I can reliably output damage. My team has the HP of a wet bag right now, even for what I would imagine is ordinarily a pretty frail team, since mine ended up being all healers. That's what I own I guess, healers.

Right now the team is Kali/Kali/White Valk/Sun Quan/Lilith/Kali, although I'm considering swapping out white Valk for Echidna. She's the closest thing the team has to an active that isn't just a panic button floor skip, so pending how badly I end up wanting the extra damage she might not actually be worth it. Very occasionally she lets me activate on a floor where I wouldn't have otherwise had enough light orbs, but most of the time she actually makes two-prongs harder to do. I actually might try replacing her with blue Valk to buffer my combos without fucking up my prongs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 14, 2015, 04:31:23 AM
Ever since I started playing PAD I been like "Jesus, how do people even play rainbow teams? That shit seems hard". Well maybe this doesn't apply to you guys with your real actual-ass combo skills and all, but I know how I play combo teams: A metric ton of time extends and panic buttons. Thanks Kali, easing me into high-execution teams all easy mode like.

It'll be interesting to see how Kali stands up in real dungeons. So far I've only run her in True Endless Corridors and she seems pretty solid. I can't consistently get past the ancient dragon floor since my team is underleveled (one of my Kalis is level one with no awakenings), but I can reliably output damage. My team has the HP of a wet bag right now, even for what I would imagine is ordinarily a pretty frail team, since mine ended up being all healers. That's what I own I guess, healers.

Right now the team is Kali/Kali/White Valk/Sun Quan/Lilith/Kali, although I'm considering swapping out white Valk for Echidna. She's the closest thing the team has to an active that isn't just a panic button floor skip, so pending how badly I end up wanting the extra damage she might not actually be worth it. Very occasionally she lets me activate on a floor where I wouldn't have otherwise had enough light orbs, but most of the time she actually makes two-prongs harder to do. I actually might try replacing her with blue Valk to buffer my combos without fucking up my prongs.
Heheh, it's funny because my combo skills are ass.
Get easy boards. If boards aren't easy, make them a bit easier with set up. If you can't waste a turn. Echidna/Kali/whatever If those aren't available, you just try your hardest and hope for the best. That's what I do anyway. It usually results in death 90% of the time.Then again, my "rainbow " team is all light but Echidna.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2015, 04:34:20 AM
It'll be interesting to see how Kali stands up in real dungeons. So far I've only run her in True Endless Corridors and she seems pretty solid. I can't consistently get past the ancient dragon floor since my team is underleveled (one of my Kalis is level one with no awakenings), but I can reliably output damage. My team has the HP of a wet bag right now, even for what I would imagine is ordinarily a pretty frail team, since mine ended up being all healers. That's what I own I guess, healers.

Yeah Kali has the unfortunate circumstance of being a healer, so she will be less bulky than Kirin - then again Horus and Ra aren't too hot in the HP department either.

You could try putting an HP stick in there instead since delay's usefulness gets neutered by some of the nastier descends, and some like Mephisto have shields that actually time out, but only if you can somehow survive his hits for a few turns.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 14, 2015, 04:40:00 AM
... That is a larger cooldown than the sirius bros for a less predictable and still fixed number orb generate, for his off-color.

fyi sirius has a high chance of there being a light orb on the left side resulting in a net gain of less than 5 light orbs, but randomly spawn actives like this never convert the same colour to itself so you're guaranteed a net gain of 5 light orbs on your board...
still no way it should be a 7 cd though :V

Yeah Kali has the unfortunate circumstance of being a healer, so she will be less bulky than Kirin - then again Horus and Ra aren't too hot in the HP department either.

You could try putting an HP stick in there instead since delay's usefulness gets neutered by some of the nastier descends, and some like Mephisto have shields that actually time out, but only if you can somehow survive his hits for a few turns.

Kind of why Fuma is a stable for his HP, though it's more due to his active. But ninjas are a pain to pull, so he just have to work with what he has I guess...
Athena's also pretty much a stable if he wants to take out SQ and go for the TPA route instead of healer route.
and commander you really need to practice more with TPAs if you're having trouble with doing 4 orbs after a white valk active because the best burst people do with LKali usually is LKali+Fuma to do like 3 light 4orb combos. :ohdear:
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 14, 2015, 04:44:38 AM
fyi sirius has a high chance of there being a light orb on the left side resulting in a net gain of less than 5 light orbs, but randomly spawn actives like this never convert the same colour to itself so you're guaranteed a net gain of 5 light orbs on your board...
still no way it should be a 7 cd though :V

Kind of why Fuma is a stable for his HP, though it's more due to his active. But ninjas are a pain to pull, so he just have to work with what he has I guess...
Athena's also pretty much a stable if he wants to take out SQ and go for the TPA route instead of healer route.
and commander you really need to practice more with TPAs if you're having trouble with doing 4 orbs after a white valk active because the best burst people do with LKali usually is LKali+Fuma to do like 3 light 4orb combos. :ohdear:

If you're using Sirius you can play around it though. It's hard to play with random converts, especially when you care about more than one color.
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Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2015, 05:36:04 AM
and commander you really need to practice more with TPAs if you're having trouble with doing 4 orbs after a white valk active because the best burst people do with LKali usually is LKali+Fuma to do like 3 light 4orb combos. :ohdear:

Well yeah, definitely. I'm very new to prongs, and bad at them so far. It's not that doing four orbs after white Valk active is hard in and of itself, but four orbs and hitting all of the other colors can be tricky. Not impossible certainly, but it requires a little bit of a specific board state. Might turn out to be a lot easier when the team is done because then I'll be able to tank hits well enough to rearrange the board more reliably. I'll get there, probably.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2015, 05:58:10 AM
Well yeah, definitely. I'm very new to prongs, and bad at them so far. It's not that doing four orbs after white Valk active is hard in and of itself, but four orbs and hitting all of the other colors can be tricky. Not impossible certainly, but it requires a little bit of a specific board state. Might turn out to be a lot easier when the team is done because then I'll be able to tank hits well enough to rearrange the board more reliably. I'll get there, probably.

If you're new to prongs, practice more with Athena first since she only demands you match her color for most of the damage. Then apply what you learned to other teams like Kali, and it will naturally click.
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Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2015, 07:02:56 AM
fyi sirius has a high chance of there being a light orb on the left side resulting in a net gain of less than 5 light orbs, but randomly spawn actives like this never convert the same colour to itself so you're guaranteed a net gain of 5 light orbs on your board...
still no way it should be a 7 cd though :V

you should not run into this however, at all.

Also what Hyorin said, which is also why the wizards in general aren't great on multicolor teams (and why supergirl's active is actually really bad for her since she's a fake seven elements) even WITH their predictability.

The predictability and easy setup is also completely gone that the wizards offered, meaning you could get still very bad boards to actually deal with.

Also he doesn't even have a prong and it's still fucking off-color.

Well yeah, definitely. I'm very new to prongs, and bad at them so far. It's not that doing four orbs after white Valk active is hard in and of itself, but four orbs and hitting all of the other colors can be tricky. Not impossible certainly, but it requires a little bit of a specific board state. Might turn out to be a lot easier when the team is done because then I'll be able to tank hits well enough to rearrange the board more reliably. I'll get there, probably.

This is the trick basically.

Don't worry too much about making all of the tpas forever, Lkali is already swinging for x50 with just one. Relax and get used to making the color combos first then start making TPAs, don't jump straight into the deep.
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Post by: Dorakyura on January 14, 2015, 11:21:34 AM
I'm new to everything and I have no idea how TPA works.  :V
How does the calculation work when you have more then one TPA  awakening on the same monster?
attack 4 monsters for 2.25x?

Does this multiply for another 2.25x when you clear another 4 orb row of the same colour?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on January 14, 2015, 11:52:47 AM
TPAs apply only to the set of orbs matched.
That is, two sets of 4 matches will deal 2x TPA damage (1.25 * 2.25)  * combo multiplier.
2 TPAs will deal 2.25x to at most two monsters with a 4 match.
To clarify on this, if there are 2+ monsters, 2.25 to both of them, but if there is only one, it will still only take the 2.25.
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Post by: Espadas on January 14, 2015, 11:53:42 AM
I'm new to everything and I have no idea how TPA works.  :V
How does the calculation work when you have more then one TPA  awakening on the same monster?
attack 4 monsters for 2.25x?

Does this multiply for another 2.25x when you clear another 4 orb row of the same colour?

Don't take my word for it but if i remember correct:

1 TPA awak = 1.5x attack against 2 monsters
2 TPA awak = 2.25x attack against 2 monsters

(Monster with 1 TPA)
1 TPA activation = one 1.5x attack against 2 monsters
2 TPA activations = two 1.5x attacks against 2 monsters

+ eventual normal combo/LS multipliers


EDIT: Ninja'd  :V
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Post by: Dorakyura on January 14, 2015, 01:16:47 PM
Thanks you two.

So it increases the multiplier. No wonder Chibi Valk does such a huge burst while being low level :V

I'm sad when I see the damage of chibi valk and compare it to the damage of my lvl99 Neph.
You are still a fine Leader, Neph *pats Mini sphinx*
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Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2015, 02:05:55 PM
"Oh boy, Ruins Of The Star Vault today! Let's keep the +train rolling!"

Wait, 2am? Shit.

Well, guess I'm gonna pass. It's one thing to set an alarm for 2am, enter a jewel dragon dungeon, and finish it in the morning, but another thing entirely to run Ruins twelve times while 90% asleep. Oh well.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2015, 02:36:35 PM
Thanks you two.

So it increases the multiplier. No wonder Chibi Valk does such a huge burst while being low level :V

I'm sad when I see the damage of chibi valk and compare it to the damage of my lvl99 Neph.
You are still a fine Leader, Neph *pats Mini sphinx*

Chibi Valk would be 3.375x with 3 TPAs. Basically it's 1.5^(TPA Awakening) multiplier for them only. Still hurts like fuck though.

Also Sphinx Descended where
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2015, 03:32:54 PM
oh shit PadZ AND PadZ Mario confirmed


Also Mephisto 3 stoned

2 stones spent because of Leilan Invade. Could have been none but got unlucky twice because when she spawned I had 500 HP too little to take a hit, and then tried to burst but she had one tiny sliver left. >__>

1 stone spent on Luci because I ran out of heals.

Actually this descend isn't that hard. If I just had either a Godin or an actually skilled up Grape dragon (goddammit why did hello kitty collab happen so early when no one had fruits yet) then a 0 stone shouldn't be too hard. The thing is all of the first few floors are burstable and the later few are stallable with heartmakers and godin.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2015, 06:07:30 PM
[12:44] <dood_may_cry> so i ran masks legend twice and got the green mask both time which sux
[12:44] <dood_may_cry> before I do this third run here soon
[12:45] <dood_may_cry> I went to the vending machines and bought a bottle of MD Voltage because of the conversation last night
[12:45] <dood_may_cry> it is blue just like the mask i need
[12:45] <dood_may_cry> so surely drinking M D will get me the blue mask

[12:57] <dood_may_cry> OH SHIT
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> WHAT IS THAT
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> A BLUE MASK
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> THE POWER OF M DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

(http://i.imgur.com/iTwhpRQ.png)
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 14, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
I walk in and see Supergirl hating and it makes me sad.

I dunno man. She's been super useful as a sub on all the teams that I can put her own - Sakuya, Purin, LZL all appreciate what she does with light orb conversions and a skill bind resist.

In the case of Sakuya, as long as I have some red and green in the middle of the board I can do serious damage, even more so if I can use Valk or Verche on leftovers in the middle. /opinion

That said the 60% skill bind resist between herself and dual Sakuyas totally let me 0-stone Mephistopheles today even when Suzaku wanted to be a cockblock.
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Post by: Jq1790 on January 14, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
[12:44] <dood_may_cry> so i ran masks legend twice and got the green mask both time which sux
[12:44] <dood_may_cry> before I do this third run here soon
[12:45] <dood_may_cry> I went to the vending machines and bought a bottle of MD Voltage because of the conversation last night
[12:45] <dood_may_cry> it is blue just like the mask i need
[12:45] <dood_may_cry> so surely drinking M D will get me the blue mask

[12:57] <dood_may_cry> OH SHIT
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> WHAT IS THAT
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> A BLUE MASK
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> THE POWER OF M DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

(http://i.imgur.com/iTwhpRQ.png)
Huh, maybe then since I HAPPEN to have some original Dew which is in a green bottle I'll get my green mask I want?  Testing is required.
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Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2015, 06:34:50 PM
[12:57] <dood_may_cry> DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

(http://i.imgur.com/iTwhpRQ.png)
her breasts may be big but they aren't that bi-*shot*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2015, 06:39:29 PM
her breasts may be big but they aren't that bi-*shot*

where do you think all the sugar from the MD went
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 14, 2015, 07:31:47 PM
Guys it took me so long to pull this off. I think I've been putting attempts in since like November. just need to do this 30 more times nowZaerog, you're next.
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Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2015, 08:01:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Gj1kRBV.jpg)

oh god why is this not real

gungho pls (http://gungho pls)
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Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2015, 09:04:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Gj1kRBV.jpg)

oh god why is this not real

gungho pls (http://gungho pls)

How many gazebos do you Isis fans need? Ultimate evolution for Sun Quan first, don't hog all the ultimate evolutions you evolution hog you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2015, 10:30:15 PM
I walk in and see Supergirl hating and it makes me sad.

I dunno man. She's been super useful as a sub on all the teams that I can put her own - Sakuya, Purin, LZL all appreciate what she does with light orb conversions and a skill bind resist.

In the case of Sakuya, as long as I have some red and green in the middle of the board I can do serious damage, even more so if I can use Valk or Verche on leftovers in the middle. /opinion

That said the 60% skill bind resist between herself and dual Sakuyas totally let me 0-stone Mephistopheles today even when Suzaku wanted to be a cockblock.

I...all I did is literally point out the bottom-line truth that because she changes a third of the board with no exceptions she's worse for color requirements, even moreso than the wizards :T

This is not nearly the scope of hating so much as a fact, especially when it also applies to cards I like (Sirius bros).

Fnatic, plz.

Edit: or to rephrase, I am not specifically saying 'supergirl is a shit card, sell immediately (TM)' so much as her active does this which clashes with what it was meant to do.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 15, 2015, 12:50:34 AM
oops I'm sorry I didn't read that well enough

Yeah, I see what you mean, now. That was a misunderstanding on my part. I just haven't encountered a time where Supergirl's active has been a liability yet. Of course it still sucks that Supergirl's and Superman's actives couldn't have been swapped, but what can you do?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2015, 01:17:24 AM
oops I'm sorry I didn't read that well enough

Yeah, I see what you mean, now. That was a misunderstanding on my part. I just haven't encountered a time where Supergirl's active has been a liability yet. Of course it still sucks that Supergirl's and Superman's actives couldn't have been swapped, but what can you do?

Superman could probably pull it off, since the blue still combos with baal/possibly wukong post ulti.

Hell, make it double row and it'd actually be -really- good for him with a water-> light changer because free double rows.

And he's a stronger card in other areas tbh so he could deal with a weaker active.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 02:37:05 AM
It's weird, I'm literally wearing a Superman t-shirt right now and there's a Superman Lego model, a Superman magnet, and a Superman mousepad all within like four feet of me, but I keep forgetting that there's a Superman in PAD. I guess I'm just lucky it's New 52 Superman that I don't care about that much or I would be some number of dollars poorer with just another collab trophymon to show for it. Although Superman would probably be a little more useful to me than Misato is, and they sort of work together, so maybe that wouldn't be that bad...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2015, 02:44:37 AM
It's weird, I'm literally wearing a Superman t-shirt right now and there's a Superman Lego model, a Superman magnet, and a Superman mousepad all within like four feet of me, but I keep forgetting that there's a Superman in PAD. I guess I'm just lucky it's New 52 Superman that I don't care about that much or I would be some number of dollars poorer with just another collab trophymon to show for it. Although Superman would probably be a little more useful to me than Misato is, and they sort of work together, so maybe that wouldn't be that bad...

Superman is actually really god damn good and carrying the entire light attacker franchise.

Actually the best egg in the DC lineup tbh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 02:50:25 AM
Yeah, I don't think I could do much with that. At least not right now. I believe he's good, he looks good. But I haven't got any subs at all for him. Could almost sub Athena on him but she has a green row for some reason, not a white row. Might be worth doing anyway just for lack of other options, and Superman has got a prong.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2015, 03:00:00 AM
I feared the worst and it happened.

(http://i.imgur.com/cIGxgYM.png) (http://i.imgur.com/FYz8BKI.png)

2 stones had to be used - one because Leilan invaded at ~4000 health remaining, and my best effort to OHKO her only took off half her health. another one was used because I comboed extremely poorly and got MS'd by Lucifer with a pixel of life remaining. The bright side is that I can now ult my other black valk, and my theory on not needing gravity on Mephisto was correct. He was easier than I expected save for the constant blinding.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 03:16:05 AM
Mephisto seems ludicrously difficult. Maybe it's just my warped perception of no-recovery dungeons coming from playing a stall team a lot, but it looks to me like it might be the hardest descend. Just crazy. Might take a whack at it later with Athena just to see what happens, but I'm not terribly confident since I'm still shaky with the team and it isn't quite done. Although it's getting close-I just maxed Meimei's level, so all I need are GZL skillups and to mega evolve white Valkyrie. Fat Dragon soon please!

And speaking of warped perception caused by playing a stall team, with Kali I've noticed that I have the bad habit of hoarding hearts. I consciously clear the screen of green orbs or anything that I have way too many of as I go, but unless I'm very directly trying I always leave the hearts alone and end up with half a screen of them by the time I realize what's happened. Since I can't take hits anyway this doesn't actually help, but it's a reflex. Learning to compartmentalize my Gabriel techniques is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2015, 03:27:22 AM
Yeah, I don't think I could do much with that. At least not right now. I believe he's good, he looks good. But I haven't got any subs at all for him. Could almost sub Athena on him but she has a green row for some reason, not a white row. Might be worth doing anyway just for lack of other options, and Superman has got a prong.

Yeah, he'll still generate a lot of light orbs too with his active- and like you said, his awakens are versatile.

It's just finding a fire->light or water->light converter is hard compared to mei's d->l.

Coincidentally, I seem to have rolled one.

WukongxSuperman hype.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2015, 03:30:05 AM
Mephisto seems ludicrously difficult. Maybe it's just my warped perception of no-recovery dungeons coming from playing a stall team a lot, but it looks to me like it might be the hardest descend.

No, you're not hallucinating, he's pretty fuggin hard - but I think if I got Helheim instead of Leilan and Athena had +99 ATK, I wouldn't have died to Leilan or Morning Star, and that would have been a 0-stone. With a non-IAP team too.

What really makes the dungeon annoying as hell is that they throw in SO many negative effects to try and keep you down. You absolutely need to have counters to at least some of these or you'll just accumulate damage and die. The good part about No-RCV is that I just mentally treat it as a passive "Combo+1" due to skyfalls. Good thing I practiced arranging in cascades a lot, otherwise that'd be more than two stones gone...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 03:38:55 AM
No, you're not hallucinating, he's pretty fuggin hard - but I think if I got Helheim instead of Leilan and Athena had +99 ATK, I wouldn't have died to Leilan or Morning Star, and that would have been a 0-stone. With a non-IAP team too.

What really makes the dungeon annoying as hell is that they throw in SO many negative effects to try and keep you down. You absolutely need to have counters to at least some of these or you'll just accumulate damage and die. The good part about No-RCV is that I just mentally treat it as a passive "Combo+1" due to skyfalls. Good thing I practiced arranging in cascades a lot, otherwise that'd be more than two stones gone...

All the pre-emptive jammer and poison floors seem like a real kick in the pants. And Mephisto's huge health, although that might be offset some by the boosted comboability. Of all of my teams I think Kali has the best shot, but she really would need more skill boosts than my team has, or at least some skillups.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2015, 03:48:32 AM
All the pre-emptive jammer and poison floors seem like a real kick in the pants. And Mephisto's huge health, although that might be offset some by the boosted comboability. Of all of my teams I think Kali has the best shot, but she really would need more skill boosts than my team has, or at least some skillups.

Including stalling out the nightmare cloak and blasphemy, I only actually "attacked" in four turns to defeat him - one turn on delay was used to remove blind. First two hits did 40% damage, the first 7star after blasphemy wore off did another 40%, and the last was the kill. Athena was pulling like triple her weight in this dungeon.

I also really wanted to try this because the only successful Leilan clears I know used some REM monster or gravity. Now I know I don't need either - just some plus eggs and no invades. Using the same reasoning, if you use a particularly hard hitting dude(s) and just swing (Reine?) you should see swaths of Meph's healthbar just fall off in one turn. If you can't oneshot him you'll need some way to survive Blasphemy, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2015, 03:51:26 AM
meanwhile blasphemy is a completely free turn for me and im really glad he uses it :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 03:55:01 AM
Just tried it because I couldn't think of a better use for my stamina today with my Athena team, but Valkyrie swapped out for Echidna. Needed to use Menace to burn off the bind turns from Devil Dragon, two-shotted Lucifer, and got one hard hit on Mephistopheles before Blasphemy completely crippled my team and made me lose. I might have even been able to pull this off, or at least definitely one-stone it, if I had a better grasp on how much damage Athena does at different numbers of prongs. I think I burned a Glitter Of Aegis on Devil Dragon that I didn't need to, and if I had an extra one I could probably have one-shotted Lucifer. If I knew what sort of combos I would need to drop Mephistopheles down to just over 75% before hitting him with Seven Star it's conceivable I could have blown him away without ever getting hit by Blasphemy. But I don't have that information, so I lost. Oh well. It was kind of educational.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2015, 03:56:46 AM
Suikama I just realized we died in the same spots orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 15, 2015, 03:58:43 AM
It might be the ease of hitting x25 but I had little issue 0-stoning Mephisto with dual Sakuya. Awoken Ceres was used twice - first on the light bind and then on Blasphemy! Once Mephisto used Blasphemy I could 36% gravity to knock him into dark HP, where Sakuya+Purin enhance roflstomps from there.

Also Leilan invaded in that run but you know no big deal.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2015, 04:01:54 AM
It might be the ease of hitting x25 but I had little issue 0-stoning Mephisto with dual Sakuya.

If you look at PDX builds for it it's actually just Sakuya alllllllllllll the way down lol

Also I don't have badass bind immune guys or bind removers that let me keep my stat values high like all the other cool kids in here  :qq:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 15, 2015, 04:05:35 AM
Healer Alraune can remove three turns of binds and isn't affected by any of the bind attacks in Mephisto :V

Edit: My (new) ultimate goal is a TAMADRApurin 0-stone of Mephistopheles. That probably won't happen until LZL, Ceres, and TAMADRApurin hit skillmax, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 04:12:04 AM
Unless you got one with a shitload of skillups or your team has an abnormal number of skillboosts actually having the skill up would be tough though. Alraune's cooldown is bizarrely long. A sticker girl would probably do the trick and would be very useful otherwise. If I try this again tonight (and I probably won't, since I want to farm Thursday dungeon as hard as possible tomorrow) I'm going to use Ruka instead of Echidna. Too bad her reduced skill timer isn't out yet.

Edit: And by "a sticker girl" I mean "Ruka or Kano" since they're the only ones who don't draw binds and actually have skillups. I guess Kurone might actually be advisable if your team otherwise has no dark though, since I would much rather she get bound than deal with Lucifer's other pre-emptive.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2015, 04:22:31 AM
Unless you got one with a shitload of skillups or your team has an abnormal number of skillboosts actually having the skill up would be tough though. Alraune's cooldown is bizarrely long.

(http://i.imgur.com/r24ofqq.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2015, 04:35:17 AM
welp so much for triple godfests >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2015, 04:39:36 AM
Who cares it's Greco-Romans

Come to me, Minerva or Ceres ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2015, 04:40:58 AM
welp so much for triple godfests >_>

Don't those only happen every now and then even in JP though
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 15, 2015, 04:57:58 AM
Don't those only happen every now and then even in JP though

If triple godfes = godfes with 3 god series then JP got lots of those for a while,
then they went for the multiple days of 2-series godfeses (changing the lineup per day) recently and it has been like that for the past few godfeses.

Dunno if anyone cares about the new ディアゴルドス (Diagoldos?) descended because he kinda sucks. :V
the mythical isn't too hard (?)
Nothing too new.
Blue shield dragons are finally in a dungeon (wave 2 is the standard 2x small blue shields + 1x evo blue shield) so any blue team would have a hard time on this floor.
Wave 5 is Fire Toy (R/G) which has a permanent half all green and red damage shield. (so green teams do 1/4 in his first half hp *gives up using bastet for this*)
Fire Toy also does an attack when under 30% hp that changes the leftmost two columns to red and rightmost two columns to green, which is pretty cool.
Otherwise nothing too special about this descended.

I managed to stall 10 turns on the blue shield dragon wave with I&I and cleared mythical with it :V even for a healer team it was tough trying to recover quick enough.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2015, 05:02:05 AM
Diagoldos is a shitty orb changer and has a leader skill worse than a basic fucking biweekly dragon. Unless there's some value in him I doubt I'll bother.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 15, 2015, 05:58:55 AM
Dunno if anyone cares about the new ディアゴルドス (Diagoldos?) descended because he kinda sucks. :V

Forgot one notable thing
The fire toy dragon on wave 5 has a chance of dropping, which marks the first time a toy dragon is acquirable by non-REM means outside of survey dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 15, 2015, 06:32:16 AM
I hate you, Alt. Blazing Forest.  That is all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 15, 2015, 07:56:21 AM
mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140115_sinka_bikkuri_man2.html

Bikkuriman revival.
Two new uevos each for two mon.
Lots of cd decrease for stuff as shown in the bottom.

R/L Lococo LS: Increase Healer type ATK depending on HP (same wording as Norns), increase hp and rcv by a little.
L/R Lococo LS unchanged, but is now yet another Double TPA Light Healer

D/R Maria's LS now increases Devil type ATK x1.5 in addition to increasing drop movement time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 15, 2015, 10:22:31 AM
So, yeah, remember Puzzle Dragon Z guys?

Yeah. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6zgkp1YBRw&feature=youtu.be&t=3m40s)

Now we just need W :derp:

(For those of you too lazy to actually watch the video, both PuzzleDragonZ and Puzzle&Dragons Super Mario Edition are going to be a thing in the west starting may.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 15, 2015, 10:58:25 AM
It's official, Gungho somehow KNOW how to screw with me when it comes to Godfest choices.....

- Greco-Roman = WOHOOO I WANT THEM!
- Archangels =  :X go away please (at most i might want Gabriel for Blue Healers)
- no Sonias = *censored*  :(

i guess i'll roll until i get 1 greco-roman then stop (now watch me drop everything bar them :V)

Oh, and game, if you DARE to drop my 4th GGY or 3rd GZL there will be a new UFO sighting....


EDIT: Shore Maiden Expert --> Chaser drop rate: 15% --> 11 runs (half of them with x2 drop rate), 0 drops --> i guess i will skillup Haku with pys >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on January 15, 2015, 11:06:22 AM
So, yeah, remember Puzzle Dragon Z guys?

Yeah. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6zgkp1YBRw&feature=youtu.be&t=3m40s)
And they'll be a package too.

On a unrelated note, Nintendo seems to be introducing more micro transactions (STAMINA IN POKEMON SHUFFLE).
If I wanted to play free games I wouldn't be using a 3ds.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 02:00:03 PM
So I'm told that Athena can do Trifruits. Seems fair enough, but I'm also told that I'm supposed to stall for skills on the Tamadra. How do I do that? Once he hits me once aren't I basically trapped there forever? Or at least, for an arbitrarily large amount of time until he gets the 20% chance normal attack a shitload of times in a row.  As far as I know I'm not supposed to bring any special de-bind stuff. Is there something I'm missing?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on January 15, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
If an arbitrarily large amount of time is 5-10 minutes, yea.
The Tamadra only needs to normal attack twice (or try to bind an unbindable), but bind different team members on the 3 turns before (or not at all).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2015, 04:33:28 PM
So I'm told that Athena can do Trifruits. Seems fair enough, but I'm also told that I'm supposed to stall for skills on the Tamadra. How do I do that? Once he hits me once aren't I basically trapped there forever? Or at least, for an arbitrarily large amount of time until he gets the 20% chance normal attack a shitload of times in a row.  As far as I know I'm not supposed to bring any special de-bind stuff. Is there something I'm missing?

You don't need special de-bind stuff. What you *want* is fast light orb changers. If you have a skillmax Valk and Verche you should-- should!-- be fine.

My problem was that I never did, so I died a lot. But it is doable.

Here's the strategy I used:
Athena/Verche/Apollo/Izanagi/Odin/Athena

Floor 1: A single light TPA will take out the seeds but leave the fruit alive. Based on the skill boosts you have, you may want to stall killing the fruit (it's always on a 3 turn counter). If you don't have any light or dark (which happened to me SO MANY TIMES), you are fucked. Valk would solve this problem and you could safely just do two TPA from the get-go to wipe them all out.

Floor 2: A single TPA should wreck them all.

Floor 3: Two TPAs should be enough, but I always went all-out. Unload as much light as possible to kill the flower and the fruit WITHOUT KILLING THE TAMA. I did this once. Bad time. The flower and fruit always have a 3cd timer, so you DO have the option of stalling a turn if you're psyched out by the -1 second from the fruit, but don't do that, because the Tama could bind one of the Athenas and you WILL take a million+ damage to the face. Once they're dead, slowly set up your board. ***If you need to, you can move one orb without matching and the bind timers will go down! Kill the tama when you either are bind-free or are at 1 turn left!*** What I did was try to get dark, light, and hearts (with none of the same touching) arranged something like this:

xxxxxx
xxxxxd
dhldxh
xxxxxl
lhdhxd


where 'x' can be anything BUT hearts, light, or dark. Do this one orb movement at a time if you want. Just do your best to not hurt the tama until you have that arrangement. Then take the baby down to the point where one more hit will kill it. Try to leave some hearts/light/dark at the top for changing.

Then for Trifruits, convert your hearts and dark to light. I do this all in one swoop with Apollo. Do this:

llllxx
xxxxxl
llllxl
xxxxxl
llllxl


for four TPA hits. Enhance the orbs with Athena and boost with Izanagi. That SHOULD be enough to wipe them all out.


A safer strategy though would also be (and better if you don't have Izanagi):

Set your board up like this:


xxxxxx
xxxxxx
ldldld
dldldl
ldldld


or


xxxxxx
xxxxxx
lhlhlh
hlhlhl
lhlhlh


This way you have easier matching at the top.  Make sure you have extra light or heart or dark at the top when you kill the Tama.

That way, when you fight trifruits, you can do something like this:


llllxx
xxxxll
llllll
llllll
llllll


Enhance with Athena (and Izanagi if you have him). This should also reliably take everything out, maybe with a little left, especially the green fruit. Don't worry, you always have two turns. Use Valk or Verche afterward if you have them available and TPA down the rest. Make sure to use your second Athena enhance here.

It's hard and not always reliable, but it does work. I spent all of last Thursday working this strategy out.


BUT!

Now that I have Hanzo maxed and Ronia online, I have made for myself a foolproof Trifruit killer team:

Pandora/Skillmax Hanzo/Skillmax Vamp/Ronia/DMeta/Hypermax Pandora Friend

Floor 1: 16x from Vamp or Hanzo clears it all.
Floor 2: 9x or 16x from Vamp or Hanzo is fine.
Floor 3: Pandora wipes the flower and fruit out. Stall until Ronia is up.
Floor 4: Ronia+Hanzo+DMeta = fully enhanced dark board. It's an OHKO on all fruits.

So now I can farm Trifruits reliably (and will be able to moreso if I can hopefully skillmax my Pandora with Badpy in upcoming weeks).

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 04:51:02 PM
Kay, thanks for the advice. I'll try this on one of my breaks if I got a good Athena buddy up. See what happens. I've got the orbchangers and skillboosts, so hopefully I'm good to go.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2015, 04:57:24 PM
PADZ Collab/Descend data confirmed. Ready your chibis.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Do not want :|
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 15, 2015, 05:19:18 PM
Kay, thanks for the advice. I'll try this on one of my breaks if I got a good Athena buddy up. See what happens. I've got the orbchangers and skillboosts, so hopefully I'm good to go.

or you know there's a lovely +297 TAMADRApurin that can also enhance if you don't happen to have an Izanagi
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2015, 07:31:04 PM
Holy shit why is Hera-Ur so hard. Even now I keep getting obliterated by the preemptives and Ifrit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 07:54:58 PM
Tried dragon fruits twice, once with Big Dog and once with Chirei's Athena. Died both times in precisely the same place and way. Basically two turns if burst on the fruits left the yellow one at a tiny sliver both times. I attribute this to Valkyrie not being mega evolved and me being bad at two-prongs and seven-stars still. Not a problem, I can definitely do it in the future. Was educational.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 15, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
Nm
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2015, 08:14:16 PM
HAHAHAHA

I FINALLY MAX SKILLED ONE OF MY RONIAS

GET FUCKED GAME ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
That is exactly what my goal is. Unfortunately my foolproof method is not flawless because of my own dumb mistakes. Sigh.

Only fruit I got so far today is green. Trifruit can get fucked for how much stamina it costs for a stupid-ass 1/3 chance.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 15, 2015, 09:09:14 PM
oh you're going for TPAs?

I kinda just do this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdEPzlMtyFs#t=5m04s) but then again I don't athena so I guess I would get maybe 20% more damage from having another Purin's row

also that red trifruit skilled up my Ronia by a level so thanks commandercool for getting me to run this
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 09:12:11 PM
Which Kali team do you guys like?

Kali/Kali/Valkyrie/Sun Quan/Lilith/Kali

or

Kali/Kali/Valkyrie/Durga/(Hera-Is or Noah)/Kali

I kind of like the idea of working Strawberry Dragon in there too, mostly for the skillboosts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 15, 2015, 09:29:18 PM
Which Kali team do you guys like?

Kali/Kali/Valkyrie/Sun Quan/Lilith/Kali

or

Kali/Kali/Valkyrie/Durga/(Hera-Is or Noah)/Kali

I kind of like the idea of working Strawberry Dragon in there too, mostly for the skillboosts.

For the first setup, I think I'd rather put a huge statstick with dark than Lilith tbh.
Your main damage output after you use SQ and valk would be light TPAs anyways, and the dark sub will still get the 25x from LKali normally.
So it seems too much of a trade-off to keep the team 100% healers when Lilith has such poor stats and situational active.
DIzanami will get skillups from Dark Don Dragon soon and has huge hp which is what the team lacks, sounds like a good fit imo. (and she's non-REM! her descended maaay be a bit tough though.)

For the second setup, I'm not sure about Durga. An enhance seems necessary without Fuma, but your damage won't be spectacular without Athena, I'd really want to fit Athena in somehow but I'm not sure what to take out.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2015, 09:31:15 PM
Why not Durga over Lilith? Everyone on the "healer" team is a God type as well so they all benefit from Durga's boost as well even if she misses out on a tiny bit of healer boost.

Yomi would also be good because time up galore or chibi luci rofl
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 10:02:46 PM
Part of my problem with Lilith is that I've never played with time extends before and I don't want to let any go after having some.

Durga over Lilith sounds good, and I like Izanami a lot but I want the extend and the damage boost. I think a lot of this will revolve around how many skillups I can get on Durga when they roll around. And Izanami skillups are great, I'm excited about that. I can use Izanami somwhere eventually if not here.

And no, Yomi and luci are not options. They would be on here if I had them. And the whole team will be different if I pull Fuma.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 15, 2015, 10:15:12 PM
Part of my problem with Lilith is that I've never played with time extends before and I don't want to let any go after having some.

Durga over Lilith sounds good, and I like Izanami a lot but I want the extend and the damage boost. I think a lot of this will revolve around how many skillups I can get on Durga when they roll around. And Izanami skillups are great, I'm excited about that. I can use Izanami somwhere eventually if not here.

And no, Yomi and luci are not options. They would be on here if I had them. And the whole team will be different if I pull Fuma.

Three LKalis already give you an extra of 1.5s though.
The thing with Durga is since you have SQ, you're more likely not to use her as the final kill so the 1hp thing might actually hurt...? I also doubt you need another enhance for most stuff, I mean Kirin teams can do without enhances as a 25x team, and LKali is a 25x team with double TPA on like half the team (effectively over 50x)
but yea, just keep in mind that izanami is always an option if you notice that a -35% would help you survive a big hit from something which would trivialize it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 10:21:28 PM
I don't think I need all those time extends, they're just fun to play with so I want them aaalllll. I'll probably get tired of it eventually

I don't have PDX up for reference, but is dark Izanami the one where two of them can keep the reduction going forever? Kali/Kali/Izanami/Izanami/Sun Quan/Kali might be crazy if so.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 15, 2015, 10:29:07 PM
I don't think I need all those time extends, they're just fun to play with so I want them aaalllll. I'll probably get tired of it eventually

I don't have PDX up for reference, but is dark Izanami the one where two of them can keep the reduction going forever? Kali/Kali/Izanami/Izanami/Sun Quan/Kali might be crazy if so.

The joys of time extend...
now I can't live without at least like 3 on my team due to long term exposure from bastet teams. orz

Yep, that sounds like a fun experimental team lol might even work really well
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 11:03:53 PM
Yes, Dark 'Nami is the right one for that tricky. Well, that's horrifying. Guess that's my new goal. 16 Izanami skillups is a tall order, but did you say she's getting a skillup? How available of one? This could be a real thing. 

Effectively 27151 HP and  3511+1000 autoheal recovery (higher against dark enemies) with x25/x50+/x100+ attack before +eggs or any ultimate evolutions (not one ultimate on the whole team) is pretty badass. Throw in significant status resistance and it's lookin' sharp.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 15, 2015, 11:26:55 PM
Yes, Dark 'Nami is the right one for that tricky. Well, that's horrifying. Guess that's my new goal. 16 Izanami skillups is a tall order, but did you say she's getting a skillup? How available of one? This could be a real thing. 

It's not out even in JP yet but yamamoto said somewhere the Dark Don Dragon boss itself (Don dragons are the biweekly dragon series after insects) will be skillups for DIza.
So it shouldn't be too hard. If you can do myth then it's 50/stam per dragon and no need to evolve.
The dungeon itself is surprisingly annoying though, despite it being tricolour, as the high def high damage shrimps from takaoka makes an appearance, which can screw you over if you're unlucky.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2015, 11:33:21 PM
Finally 0 stoned Hera-Ur for the first time ever

still no invade though urgg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2015, 11:35:16 PM
Badass. After getting a truckload of skillups on my Cleopatra while working on Sun Quan, I know how easily 50 stamina for one evolved boss skillups go. This is totally doable. Assuming I can handle the dungeon consistently, but I'll work something out. I'll have plenty of time.

Also, fair warning: Don't put dinner in the oven, buy an alt dungeon, then forget about it and eat and then remember you bought it right before it expires. :wat: Or forget about your dinner I guess. DON'T MIX ALT DUNGEONS AND DINNER IT'S BAD.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 16, 2015, 12:18:42 AM
Also, fair warning: Don't put dinner in the oven, buy an alt dungeon, then forget about it and eat and then remember you bought it right before it expires. :wat: Or forget about your dinner I guess. DON'T MIX ALT DUNGEONS AND DINNER IT'S BAD.

I tried doing this once

I came out one flampy richer
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2015, 12:50:52 AM
Lucifer beating Challenge 10 rofl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIEWWQLImEg&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 16, 2015, 01:49:18 AM
Hey Suikama, check that Muse bookmark you have.

Something's different about it...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2015, 01:50:34 AM
Fucking christ, I just died in exactly the same place and way on dragon fruits again. Yellow fruit, alive at less than 5% HP. It was again mostly my fault, since I forgot to activate GZL on my first turn when I did my biggest burst. That's frustrating. GZL's giant head makes it hard to see if his active has been used or not. Oh well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2015, 02:00:10 AM
Hey Suikama, check that Muse bookmark you have.

Something's different about it...
HYPE INTENSIFIES

..."Armored Green Ice Knight" though? Really? >_>


...also next gala is Red which means if they're being introduced through a Knights Carnival it's not happening too soon <_<



Jesus christ that "Echidna" UEVO

Fuckin double TPA and double skill lock resist on an Echidna wow


Also she's main color light holy fucking shit

Yeah L Kali teams really needed this
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 16, 2015, 06:47:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/GBEeg4U.png)

Finally
Been rolling in all godfeses with Egypt 2.0s since they were out.
This is like the 4th one since then.
Finally got one.
And it's the one I wanted most.
 :toot:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Calamity on January 16, 2015, 06:53:53 AM
owo I got invaded on hera ur legend

What's the chance on invasions anyway? Does the chance change from different difficulties?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 16, 2015, 08:03:11 AM
Jesus christ that "Echidna" UEVO

Fuckin double TPA and double skill lock resist on an Echidna wow


It's not even Echidna anymore, it's the original Bikkuriman character Head Rococo. The uvo Echidna Rococo has a better LS though.

owo I got invaded on hera ur legend

What's the chance on invasions anyway? Does the chance change from different difficulties?

On Legend the invade rate is almost literally impossible, so you got lucky?

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2015, 08:39:04 AM
God, I only cleared trifruits twice yesterday. And it's sad because the team really is a guaranteed win-- I just get so psyched out by the - 1 second and I hurry and it causes me to always have one orb misaligned and I get killed instantly.

Ugh. I did get one red fruit though... But no skill up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Calamity on January 16, 2015, 08:50:37 AM
almost literally impossible
:o That's awesome I got an invade then. So that means the mythical rate is a bit better... Do we as players know the percentage rate?
not that the rate actually means anything when rng does whatever the hell it wants
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on January 16, 2015, 11:15:59 AM
Jesus christ that "Echidna" UEVO

Did they change something, or did she get another uevo?
My Echidna will be the second to be maxed leveled, for sure, though my cost doesn't support her in my team yet :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 16, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
My Echidna will be the second to be maxed leveled, for sure, though my cost doesn't support her in my team yet :(

Echidna is probably the most used card in the entire game but I always laugh when i come across the fanmade description of Orochi's AS:

Force
Effect: clear the floor  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Bio on January 16, 2015, 11:39:47 AM
Did they change something, or did she get another uevo?
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1887
Basically an Echidna (was-red healer with 3 turn delay) with a slightly higher CD and great awakenings, with the emphasis on those two 2prongs on a light main.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on January 16, 2015, 11:41:11 AM
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1887
Basically an Echidna with a slightly higher CD and great awakenings.

I see, also HP recover
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Espadas on January 16, 2015, 01:25:57 PM
JABBA THE HUTT DRAGON DUNGEON TOMORROW!!

Prepare your Valks! And your money..... clever, Gungho, really clever, putting this out the same day of the Godfest so that people will buy even more stones.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2015, 02:00:14 PM
as long as its not on at 2 am
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on January 16, 2015, 02:07:12 PM
can I even ... 99 stamina  :o

So there is the boss where you need Android ult evo for
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 16, 2015, 02:16:27 PM
can I even ... 99 stamina  :o

So there is the boss where you need Android ult evo for

Well, you don't need Top droidragon for it.

ROdin, Neptune and Shiva are all OK as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 16, 2015, 02:38:37 PM
Time to see if my hunch is right.  Gonna shoot for an Athena kill myself.  If I can get some TPAs in I should be ok. Gonna GZL half of the defense away then combo for my life with light orbs trying to pierce the then 750k defense.  I COULD Top Droidragon it but curiousity begs that I do it this way at least once.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 16, 2015, 02:52:52 PM
JABBA THE HUTT DRAGON DUNGEON TOMORROW!!

Prepare your Valks! And your money..... clever, Gungho, really clever, putting this out the same day of the Godfest so that people will buy even more stones.....

Thankfully, I only need... two :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 16, 2015, 02:59:31 PM
Time to see if my hunch is right.  Gonna shoot for an Athena kill myself.  If I can get some TPAs in I should be ok. Gonna GZL half of the defense away then combo for my life with light orbs trying to pierce the then 750k defense.  I COULD Top Droidragon it but curiousity begs that I do it this way at least once.

Teams are already up and Athena/GZL suggestions are everywhere. Probably easymode with them. In fact they're listed as the fastest clear in 3 minutes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2015, 03:10:39 PM
Yeah, I think I'm gonna go for the Athena team. Maybe Athena+friend GZL.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
holy shit i just threw together the most half assed Ronia team for Earth insect dragon and still burst for like 6 million or something

she doesn't even need that many rows it's just that fucking active + rows + +orbs + enhances adds up to just ridiculous damage

it's mostly her active though
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2015, 04:05:14 PM
Does anyone know how the game's targeting makes decisions? Just tried Cauchemar with Athena and died on the second floor.

On my first attack one part of my two-prongs hit the demon, knockung it to low health. Second turn all of my attacks from both sides (all light damage) redirected and just hit the Shieldras for nothing and left the demon untouched.

Does anyone know why that happened? Maybe I bumped the screen, but I don't think I did.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 16, 2015, 04:28:04 PM
Since we have a new rotation now, I've gathered all the data and generated the first Alt drop table made with the assistance of other MotK folks (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KiAvCHa1xoGYo34htj99RH6WpfnzDk3Pjw4H8ai-ROU/edit?usp=sharing). (Cosita)

Does anyone know how the game's targeting makes decisions? Just tried Cauchemar with Athena and died on the second floor.

On my first attack one part of my two-prongs hit the demon, knockung it to low health. Second turn all of my attacks from both sides (all light damage) redirected and just hit the Shieldras for nothing and left the demon untouched.

Does anyone know why that happened? Maybe I bumped the screen, but I don't think I did.

You should have just targeted the demon - I think the game prioritizes enemies with lower health. Not sure if it cares more about static values or health percentage left, but it sounds like the latter. Just always target to be safe.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2015, 04:45:35 PM
That makes sense, and I wouldn't even have mentioned it except that it didn't do that on the first turn. Weird.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 16, 2015, 06:25:29 PM
21:13:17 <Nadeshiko-Matsuri>   lovefreak-may-cry: you're banned from cosita >:<

fine i'll just go somewhere else gawd

(http://i.imgur.com/S6tAkhm.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2015, 06:49:23 PM
chirei pls
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2015, 07:20:55 PM
So I'm ~50 runs in to alt dungeons and have yet to see a Pii. No problem, they're rare and I'm not doing this for them. More notable, to me at least, is the fact that I've only dropped a single +egg. I thought rates were supposed to be good. Is that not the case, or have I been unlucky?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 16, 2015, 07:23:50 PM
You're really unlucky. Like me and my 70 something tries to skill up Siren unlucky
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 16, 2015, 07:26:18 PM
So I'm ~50 runs in to alt dungeons and have yet to see a Pii. No problem, they're rare and I'm not doing this for them. More notable, to me at least, is the fact that I've only dropped a single +egg. I thought rates were supposed to be good. Is that not the case, or have I been unlucky?

The set of 9 I just did yielded zero eggs. I highly suspect it's because of the pengdras - and now I have actual evidence to back it up.

Look at the spreadsheet of the 239 logged cosita runs above, then look at my 250 runs of Alt. Castle of Satan here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mZeZxf4q_skC7zJ003MQCZXzgcPHRgardne804gywAQ/edit?pli=1#gid=0) The latter doesn't have any pengdra and the plus egg rate appears to be markedly higher. Coincidence? Don't think so.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 16, 2015, 07:46:30 PM
Man I didn't even realize they made both into alt dungeons
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2015, 07:50:14 PM
250 runs
Damn do you even run other dungeons anymore :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 16, 2015, 07:58:19 PM
Damn do you even run other dungeons anymore :derp:

no

For real though - Alt. Castle of Satan is the literal best dungeon in the game - second best exp/stam ratio under Mechdragon Rush Legend, and practically infinite experience for all my guys. The extremely high exp yield (assuming I don't die) also pretty much lets me have infinite stamina, so I was churning out as many as 30+ runs on a good day.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2015, 08:03:22 PM
You cant get evo mats though :derp:

I've had to do so much evo mats farming lately after that one godfest
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2015, 08:17:17 PM
I just cleaned out my box and threw away most of my evo materials. Once I get Fat Dragon all of my active and immediately projected guys are fully evolved, and now that I have farming setups for mythical weekday dungeons I no longer need to stockpile them.

Hung on to the broadly useful/hard to farm stuff (Mythlits, Dub-Topalits), orbs, and materials for Odin, Chester, and a few other assorted utility subs with no immediate usage plans, but I no longer feel the need to maintain my "two of everything" policy. And I need space for all of the Dragon Plants I need to keep around now!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on January 16, 2015, 09:54:58 PM
demon prince why  :qq:

seriously though I got BabbyTiny recently and I'm like AWWWWW YEAH TIMESTOP SKILL FOR MY LIGHT TEAM (atleast when i get evod tiny)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 16, 2015, 10:31:58 PM
I just cleaned out my box and threw away most of my evo materials. Once I get Fat Dragon all of my active and immediately projected guys are fully evolved, and now that I have farming setups for mythical weekday dungeons I no longer need to stockpile them.

Hung on to the broadly useful/hard to farm stuff (Mythlits, Dub-Topalits), orbs, and materials for Odin, Chester, and a few other assorted utility subs with no immediate usage plans, but I no longer feel the need to maintain my "two of everything" policy. And I need space for all of the Dragon Plants I need to keep around now!

I'm experiencing the opposite. Now that myth weekdays are so good at throwing Mythlits and Mystic Masks at you, I'm actually finding myself having to sell those away (I have like 10 spare Mystic masks right now still from avalon skillupping despite how frequently they're used) and I'm lacking certain colour dub-lits and divine masks because I stopped running the 25stam ones. In particular I've running out of Light Divine Masks for a long time now (having just evolved LKali, Fuma, etc) and just ran out of Blue Dub-lits (haven't run legendary seaway since I'm done with U&Y skillups...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2015, 10:36:07 PM
I'm experiencing the opposite. Now that myth weekdays are so good at throwing Mythlits and Mystic Masks at you, I'm actually finding myself having to sell those away (I have like 10 spare Mystic masks right now still from avalon skillupping despite how frequently they're used) and I'm lacking certain colour dub-lits and divine masks because I stopped running the 25stam ones. In particular I've running out of Light Divine Masks for a long time now (having just evolved LKali, Fuma, etc) and just ran out of Blue Dub-lits (haven't run legendary seaway since I'm done with U&Y skillups...)

I just don't have that much stuff to evolve. I'm sure it would be different if I did, but I got projects to work on for a while now so I'm not actively using materials. And with boosted stamina just going and getting one Dublit or something to evolve a single monster isn't a chore at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 16, 2015, 11:16:59 PM
You cant get evo mats though :derp:

I've had to do so much evo mats farming lately after that one godfest

I guess the thing is that I rarely train up new guys, and the PEM has been good to me for that kind of stuff.

Also when I said "infinite exp", I meant "infinite exp for that hour". This means the 288 stamina you naturally regenerate per day I can space out to use on absolutely whatever I want. This is how I was able to do descends on the side as well as any evo mat farming. Also serves as a cushion if I somehow die in a run and need to make up the deficit exp for a loop.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 17, 2015, 01:56:33 AM
Wow, this wave of alt dungeons is much easier than the last one. The bosses have longer timers and tend to waste time doing nothing when they do get to go. And the rare drops are less scary. They're easier. They also pay out way less, but they're easier. I just assumed the stamina and experience would be similar so I screwed myself over by going in when I did, and now I have to pay to enter again like half an hour after my first purchase expires to rank up. Oh well.

You guys gonna do the godfest? I'm conflicted. I don't need new projects and I want to save up for Andromeda, but the only things out of either set I don't want are Luci or duplicates of Michael and Gabe. 7/10 wants is pretty great, so it might be worth throwing a few rolls at. Hmm...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2015, 04:17:42 AM
Antonio baited me into yolo rolling.

Hades, Urd, A M E N O C H O K E Z U M E, Chrono Turtle.

I do have kagu, urd new op? stay tuned
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 17, 2015, 04:22:34 AM
Did one pull with Antonio. Rei Sirius.

Pretty good!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 17, 2015, 04:56:18 AM
Saved my stones for today and pulled hoping for Minerva or Ceres and NO DUPES.

Pull 1: Dupe Apocalypse
Pull 2: Dupe Kushinada


...so while those are great pulls, I was still pretty discouraged because I hardly use the ones I already have. So I had 4 stones and went to do Two Heroes Challenge Mode for the last pull. And...


























Pull 3:
(http://i.imgur.com/FVOug4c.png)


...all is forgiven, Gungho. All is forgiven.

Also, Ult Starling will be coming soon! And alternate weekday drop skillups. I will have a use for my bunch of blue fruits!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 17, 2015, 05:09:56 AM
I did one pull, got an Angel. I thought those were removed, but whatever.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 17, 2015, 05:29:41 AM
>Extreme King at 2 am

god

fucking

dammit


at least we get Nut skillups soon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 17, 2015, 05:30:42 AM
I did one pull, got an Angel. I thought those were removed, but whatever.
Nah, the removed stuff IIRC consists of RGB golems and the Two Heroes, while 3*s have reduced rates compared to their original state back when the game began.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 17, 2015, 05:34:32 AM
Did another pull because everyone else in the room with me pulled consecutive toy dragons, got a vampire. Between the four of us we did seven pulls and got seven silvers. Seven bad silvers. Damn.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 17, 2015, 05:37:43 AM
>Extreme King at 2 am

god

fucking

dammit


at least we get Nut skillups soon

This is really shitty and there's no reason for it.  They wouldn't hold a twitch stream at 11 pm PST
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dr Rawr on January 17, 2015, 06:36:38 AM
reading about other peoples success made me want to use my stones to and i got a green sonia and a urd
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 17, 2015, 06:39:15 AM
This is really shitty and there's no reason for it.  They wouldn't hold a twitch stream at 11 pm PST
I even brought my exp to really close to ranking up so I can get a level up during extreme

except now i cant because i'll have a full bar of stamina to burn through


also screw the godfest i gotta pull the extreme metal dragon machine
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 17, 2015, 12:22:21 PM
Godfest yoloroll = Dupe Gabriel.

Like, I knew it was gonna be a dupe since I already have all archangels + Minerva and Neptune but there was that slight chance of me getting something big so w/e.

@e: ...and then I accidentally press "start" again and roll a second time, I get a shining dragon swordsman which is... ehhhhhhhhh

That's ten stones down the drain, at least I still have 23.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Dorakyura on January 17, 2015, 12:55:01 PM
This was super easy, Watery Temptress is Dark after all :D
(http://i.imgur.com/hIw1887.png)

but Lightseeker, so hard to do, but I finally made it.
Had a lot of luck, enough heal orbs on the field to stall for valk ability  :V
I'm happy

(http://i.imgur.com/lLE5ghu.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 17, 2015, 01:42:19 PM
Got my second Light Orb, which means I no longer need any of them.

'Course, I had to three stone the damn thing because I'm really bad at this game.

Anyway, now all I need is a green orb and I can get mega-valk, she'll probably rotate her position with Izanagi after the team is done.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 17, 2015, 02:23:34 PM
pulled 3 times:

1. unevolved berry dragon
2. lilith
3. mystic dark knight

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 18, 2015, 02:05:27 AM
I bring a dire warning for everyone who hasn't done Fat Dragon yet today: Don't be dumb like me. I was playing a board game while the dungeon was up, so I was only paying half attention to my game. This means the first time I went in I accidentally entered Extreme God Rush instead of Metal King. Then I exited, entered the right dungeon, but picked the wrong friend leader. Turns out Athena does work (of course, that wasn't really in question), but yeah... Lost two stones to stupidity. I won that round of Seven Wonders though... :V

Anyway, Mega White Valkyrie get, the damage output is noticeable and the extra skillboost is appreciated.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 18, 2015, 03:31:39 AM
1-stoned Athena

i joined the club yay for me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 18, 2015, 06:27:48 AM
fatty has been owned in rapid succession

it's only a matter of time now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 18, 2015, 08:46:57 AM
JP Challenge Dungeon Set 5 Lv 8
No stone cleared! :V

(http://i.imgur.com/Cl8TgKx.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/SVqUTPg.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/K2CNiX8.png)

http://pad.skyozora.com/stage/%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%80%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%EF%BC%815/Lv8%20%E5%9B%9E%E5%BE%A9%E3%81%AA%E3%81%97
It's basically sandalphon descended on steroids.
You get Sandy on wave 1, then freaking Twinlits, Michael, Uriel, Raphael, Gabriel, and finally FA Luci.
The twist is there's no hearts.

This team is one hundred percent skillbind resist so Sandy is no problem.
2nd Andro only at skill lv 1, so the main problem I had was somehow getting her up before stage 3's Michael since I need the hearts to unbind.
Finally got a lv8 cleared!

andromeda OP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 18, 2015, 02:58:09 PM
Scored 3 fat dragons last night. Also did Hera challenge mode to get the stone for the third one.

I'm kind of proud of myself. I seem to be adjusting well to the non-IAP life.

That said, I hope they reset challenge modes at some point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 18, 2015, 04:34:25 PM
If they do, I'll need to bum rush them all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 18, 2015, 05:11:09 PM
Reset all the clears really. That'll give some people a nasty surprise too.

"WHAT I HAVE TO CLEAR ______ MYTHICAL AGAIN UGHHHH NOOOO"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 18, 2015, 05:56:51 PM
Reset all the clears really. That'll give some people a nasty surprise too.

"WHAT I HAVE TO CLEAR ______ MYTHICAL AGAIN UGHHHH NOOOO"

If they reset Fagan... >:(


I don't think I PAD that much anymore. I feel liked I did more farming alts today than I have in a week.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 18, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
If they reset Fagan... >:(


I don't think I PAD that much anymore. I feel liked I did more farming alts today than I have in a week.

They need to give a yearly reset and do one of two things:

1) Put different color clear stars to show that you beat this during (year), and that doesn't get reset, and you can get another stone.

2) A counter like dorapo(?) to show that you beat the dungeon x times ever. That way if it gets reset the counter stays.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2015, 06:30:35 PM
so uh somehow the 2 am extreme dungeon ended up working in my favor since i didn't have access to the game until like 1 am :V

super valks get aw yiss BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 18, 2015, 06:34:51 PM
How do Kali teams usually handle the first floor of dungeons? Most of the builds I'm aware of have very few skillboosts and relatively low health, so it seems like the entire dungeon is just a coin flip. If you have the board to thin out the first floor and stall for skills, you probably win. If you have multiple colors scattered to the four corners of the board, like happened to me both times I entered PAD Z Mythical today, you just insta-lose in seconds with no chance to play. As always I recognize that my team has this problem worse than others because of the low levels and bizarre subs, but I don't think a standard Kali team would've had any more luck than I just did. :wat:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 18, 2015, 06:44:25 PM
How do Kali teams usually handle the first floor of dungeons? Most of the builds I'm aware of have very few skillboosts and relatively low health, so it seems like the entire dungeon is just a coin flip. If you have the board to thin out the first floor and stall for skills, you probably win. If you have multiple colors scattered to the four corners of the board, like happened to me both times I entered PAD Z Mythical today, you just insta-lose in seconds with no chance to play. As always I recognize that my team has this problem worse than others because of the low levels and bizarre subs, but I don't think a standard Kali team would've had any more luck than I just did. :wat:

Skillup the LKali :V goodluck
That's precisely why I hated using Kirin and D/L Ra :V you either luck out or die on floor ones.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 18, 2015, 06:49:19 PM
Oh, I'm gonna skillup her up. But I does any standard version of the team carry enough skillboosts to be able to use it to save you on the first floor regardless? The fact that she doesn't have any means you're going to have two of your four team members counting against your skillboosts already, so you need six in your remaining four subs. That's a pretty hard bargain. I'm genuinely considering getting a Tengu just to give me a big skillboost bump as a situational sub, possibly alongside a Strawberry Dragon (and I just really want an excuse to use Tengu). Not sure if that would tank my damage too hard, and it's skillup-dependent anyway which is a long way off, but it would make the team a lot more reliable in dungeons where the first floor is very deadly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 18, 2015, 06:54:05 PM
Oh, I'm gonna skillup her up. But I does any standard version of the team carry enough skillboosts to be able to use it to save you on the first floor regardless? The fact that she doesn't have any means you're going to have two of your four team members counting against your skillboosts already, so you need six in your remaining four subs. That's a pretty hard bargain. I'm genuinely considering getting a Tengu just to give me a big skillboost bump as a situational sub, possibly alongside a Strawberry Dragon (and I just really want an excuse to use Tengu). Not sure if that would tank my damage too hard, and it's skillup-dependent anyway which is a long way off, but it would make the team a lot more reliable in dungeons where the first floor is very deadly.

Max lv Kali is actually 7 cd, but she actually has a skill boost, so you need 5 in 4 subs... which is still kinda hard but not as restrictive
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Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2015, 06:56:37 PM
Skillboosts are hugely important for pretty much every team (except maybe stall teams like Luci?). One of the reasons why I love my Isis team is those 4 skillboosts means I pretty much never have to really stall.

...also Kali has a skill boost >__>


Bodin would be great since you cover all 4 colors with just him and Kali and you'll have 5 skillboosts already and great stats.

Then with an Lmeta you have bind removal and 7 skillboosts
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Post by: commandercool on January 18, 2015, 07:06:29 PM
Oh shit, Kali does have a skillboost. And her cooldown is seven. Well, I'm all wrong. Fair enough, that makes that math a lot less complicated than I thought it was. And she takes one less skillup than I thought she did. All good news. That's what I get for posting from my phone where I can't easily reference PDX (I can just reference my game, but I didn't).
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Post by: Thaws on January 18, 2015, 07:12:52 PM
Bodin would be great since you cover all 4 colors with just him and Kali and you'll have 5 skillboosts already and great stats.

DMeta also works.
Heal active vs damage reduction active
both good to have in rainbow teams
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 18, 2015, 07:28:02 PM
Reset all the clears really. That'll give some people a nasty surprise too.

"WHAT I HAVE TO CLEAR ______ MYTHICAL AGAIN UGHHHH NOOOO"

I wouldn't mind, if it means more stones! Especially since my old whale mindset was "well, if I spend a stone I'll just get one back, so!"
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Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2015, 09:26:14 PM
I wouldn't mind, if it means more stones! Especially since my old whale mindset was "well, if I spend a stone I'll just get one back, so!"

the amount of sheer stones would be so absurd i almost want this but also have to realize there is no way gungho would just look at it and say

'yeah, lets give the entire playerbase like 100 free stones

that's only like a ronia or two right'
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Post by: trancehime on January 19, 2015, 05:53:46 AM
0-stoned Dragon Zombie Legend with the following team:

Unevolved Gronia Lv14
Ancient Dragon Knight Lv23
Generate Earth Dragon Lv37
Uvo Starling Lv43
Uvo Angelion Lv53
Friend: Lv63 CDD

ez dungeon, is this guy really that easy? Oo

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/557055034198732800
Ult Sun Quan art. More Blue Healer upgrades!
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Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2015, 06:25:53 AM
inb4 triple tpa sq

rip everything
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Post by: trancehime on January 19, 2015, 06:31:00 AM
inb4 triple tpa sq

rip everything

>triple tpa sq
>he gets b/g

u m i y a m a b o y s
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Post by: Thaws on January 19, 2015, 06:31:40 AM
inb4 triple tpa sq

rip everything

As much as I want that, it's probably LS buff, stat boosts and no extra awakenings. :v
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Post by: Bio on January 19, 2015, 07:10:06 AM
2 TPA and B/D please. A shame that will never happen (except for maybe 2nd uvo)
Then don't even need that Yomi for UY/UY/UY/Reine/SQ/UY.
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Post by: trancehime on January 19, 2015, 12:10:07 PM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/557136809918885888

casual 0-stone of goddess descended mythical 'v'
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Post by: triangles on January 19, 2015, 03:26:16 PM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/557055034198732800
Ult Sun Quan art. More Blue Healer upgrades!
Holy art swirl explosion Batman.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 19, 2015, 03:58:24 PM
Hello new Skuld sub.

You know, if I actually had Sun Quan. :(
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Post by: commandercool on January 19, 2015, 04:34:21 PM
As much as I want that, it's probably LS buff, stat boosts and no extra awakenings. :v

What makes you say that? If he's consistent with Liu Bei, which I have no reason to assume he won't be, he'll have one form that's as you described and one form that's Dragon/Healer with same leader skill and three additional awakenings. Quite possibly triple TPA at that. I'm hoping for one TPA, one row, and one skillboost, but I'll take literally whatever as long as there's three of it. Even three Green Resist or something is kind of notable if there's three.

I don't love the Blue/Green coloring, but it was kind of to be expected and it means he has even more utility now as a Norn sub, which the game badly needed more of. So that's pretty neat. Assuming his buffs are anything at all like what Lie Bei got then he's better than I would have hoped for.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 19, 2015, 06:00:46 PM
my favorite thing about Beelzebub is probably the ability to casually facetank Red Flower Dragon's gradually increasing GTFO attacks while I set up a board for Persephone to break.
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Post by: Thaws on January 19, 2015, 06:06:57 PM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/557136809918885888

casual 0-stone of goddess descended mythical 'v'

Good job!

What makes you say that? If he's consistent with Liu Bei, which I have no reason to assume he won't be, he'll have one form that's as you described and one form that's Dragon/Healer with same leader skill and three additional awakenings. Quite possibly triple TPA at that. I'm hoping for one TPA, one row, and one skillboost, but I'll take literally whatever as long as there's three of it. Even three Green Resist or something is kind of notable if there's three.

I don't love the Blue/Green coloring, but it was kind of to be expected and it means he has even more utility now as a Norn sub, which the game badly needed more of. So that's pretty neat. Assuming his buffs are anything at all like what Lie Bei got then he's better than I would have hoped for.

At first I was under the opinion they wouldn't give all 3kingdoms branch because that seem too much effort on their part :v but someone pointed out there's 4 empty spaces before and after liu bei which heavily hints towards branches for all of them.
In that case, woohoo lets expect more OP stuff for blue healers! Yay!

I wonder if this B/G pic is the sub-oriented or LS-oriented one. I hope he'd be B/B for the sub-oriented uevo :V
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Post by: commandercool on January 19, 2015, 06:16:43 PM
I'm assuming this picture is the sub-oriented one, since it seems to bring the dragon into greater focus implying that it will be the dragon subtype one. If again we're going with the precedent then the leader form will be U/B or U/W, while the sub form will be U/R or U/G. And since green is already accounted for, that's my guess.

Has there ever been a case before of a series of gods where one god gets branches and none of the others do? Maybe I'm not remembering something or am not up on my history, but it seems like they're always consistent across the entire series. I wouldn't expect that to change now.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 19, 2015, 06:25:17 PM
I'm assuming this picture is the sub-oriented one, since it seems to bring the dragon into greater focus implying that it will be the dragon subtype one. If again we're going with the precedent then the leader form will be U/B or U/W, while the sub form will be U/R or U/G. And since green is already accounted for, that's my guess.

Has there ever been a case before of a series of gods where one god gets branches and none of the others do? Maybe I'm not remembering something or am not up on my history, but it seems like they're always consistent across the entire series. I wouldn't expect that to change now.

For the longest time, Bastet only had one uvo while the rest of the Egyptians enjoyed two versions. Astaroth and Devil Lucy also have two branches over the other archdemons.
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Post by: Thaws on January 19, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
Has there ever been a case before of a series of gods where one god gets branches and none of the others do? Maybe I'm not remembering something or am not up on my history, but it seems like they're always consistent across the entire series. I wouldn't expect that to change now.

Actually it's the other way round, I don't believe there has ever been a series where there were branch uevos for all of them straight up from when they start getting uevos.
The usual case is no-branch except for 0-2 of them.

For the longest time, Bastet only had one uvo while the rest of the Egyptians enjoyed two versions. Astaroth and Devil Lucy also have two branches over the other archdemons.
For the longest time, Bastet enjoyed a uevo while the rest of the Egyptians had to wait though. Lol.
But yea, I guess Egypts 1.0 was the closest to whole series getting branches as they got uevos, so I guess it's possible they'd do that now, but it was very rare so I was skeptical.

Edit: oh wait there was romans 1.0 but they were lazy recolourings :V
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Post by: hyorinryu on January 19, 2015, 08:41:10 PM
What makes you say that? If he's consistent with Liu Bei, which I have no reason to assume he won't be, he'll have one form that's as you described and one form that's Dragon/Healer with same leader skill and three additional awakenings. Quite possibly triple TPA at that. I'm hoping for one TPA, one row, and one skillboost, but I'll take literally whatever as long as there's three of it. Even three Green Resist or something is kind of notable if there's three.

I don't love the Blue/Green coloring, but it was kind of to be expected and it means he has even more utility now as a Norn sub, which the game badly needed more of. So that's pretty neat. Assuming his buffs are anything at all like what Lie Bei got then he's better than I would have hoped for.
Liu Bei was by far the least used one there, so it makes sense he would get something extra. Astaroth got one to accommodate people who tanked with her. Idk about Luci. I'll chalk to Gungho's dark love.


Actually it's the other way round, I don't believe there has ever been a series where there were branch uevos for all of them straight up from when they start getting uevos.
The usual case is no-branch except for 0-2 of them.
For the longest time, Bastet enjoyed a uevo while the rest of the Egyptians had to wait though. Lol.
But yea, I guess Egypts 1.0 was the closest to whole series getting branches as they got uevos, so I guess it's possible they'd do that now, but it was very rare so I was skeptical.

Edit: oh wait there was romans 1.0 but they were lazy recolourings :V

There were also the Chinese. No 2nd Kirin ult :( Understandable though.
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Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2015, 03:36:46 AM
okay so another thing against alt dungeon farming it's damn time consuming

i opened alt creek for an hour, used up my stam and ranked up, then used up my stam again and almost ran out of time with all the runs I could do. so that's an whole hour of non stop farming.

i mean farming other stuff like star vault can take a while too but at least that stuff is limited. also 10 floor dungeons just feel really long :<

also no pys


Quote
- Snow Globe feed exp will be doubled to 2 million base (off-color) after the next JP maintenance.

WELP time to hold onto all of my snowglobes for the next like, year
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Post by: Bio on January 20, 2015, 04:22:03 AM
Oh good. Now a SUPER gets you from 0 to max without maxing up the last million on a 4 mil curve.
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Post by: Jq1790 on January 20, 2015, 04:41:52 AM
Athena Descended 0-stone clear...with Athena.

Team was:
Athena/GZL/Great Valk/Verche[non-ulti]/Perseus/[Athena].
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 20, 2015, 01:01:41 PM
[07:53] <Chirei> rofl yes went 3/3 on rainbow keepers at 1x rate

(http://i.imgur.com/h6k52Cg.png)
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Post by: commandercool on January 20, 2015, 01:22:34 PM
For the longest time, Bastet only had one uvo while the rest of the Egyptians enjoyed two versions. Astaroth and Devil Lucy also have two branches over the other archdemons.

Hmm, fair enough. Forgot about them and Kirin. But for the most part my assumption has been for stuff like Bastet that they intend to put out all of the branches, it can just take a little while. But those ones do seem to break that pattern, at least so far.
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Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2015, 05:20:11 PM
welp tried alt dungeons again and died three times

but at least i got a py which is all i really care about BV
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Post by: Sapz on January 20, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
I just started playing this again - are there any EU players in the house these days? If so feel free to add me regardless of your lineup, I cleaned out my list and it's a bit bare right now. :V Though I can't say much for their stats, I've got a Horus, LMeta, Red BLUE Sonia and Sun Wukong kicking around, might be something useful to someone in there... although I have no idea what the meta is like these days.

Edit: Forgot the friend code. :derp: I'm 778,547,242.

Edit2: I'm a moron who can't colours, turns out it's blue sonia and not red sonia. I'm going to blame everyone talking about red sonia all the time. :V
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Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
the meta is red sonia so youre good
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 20, 2015, 05:47:23 PM
the meta is red sonia so youre good

isis isn't the meta??? i thought i knew u man
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Post by: Edible on January 20, 2015, 06:04:28 PM
Isis is the hipster coolkid meta
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 20, 2015, 06:10:55 PM
No love for Horus :fail:
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Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2015, 06:17:07 PM
isis isn't the meta??? i thought i knew u man
meta is what lame people play because its 2ez modo like diddy kong in smash4

isis is for cool kids only BV
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Post by: OverlordChirei on January 20, 2015, 06:27:55 PM
meta is what lame people play because its 2ez modo

p much
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Post by: commandercool on January 20, 2015, 06:43:15 PM
meta is what lame people play because its 2ez modo like diddy kong in smash4

isis is for cool kids only BV

*Ahem*

Gabriel.

(Yes Gungho, keep buffing blue healers. More buffs...)
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on January 20, 2015, 07:09:43 PM
I've realized the true benefit of never pulling in another godfest.  I don't have to collect evo mats.

Besides the red valks, I don't care too much about the rest of these doods

https://www.padherder.com/user/MoogsParfait/monsters/
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 20, 2015, 08:27:34 PM
the meta is red sonia so youre good

okay real talk

I've been running Ronia a lot lately and like

she's really good but I don't see why she's seen as so supreme outside of that ridicuous RCV

Maybe I'm just too used to Athena but the damage is just so much lower in comparison

So my question is: How do you play Ronia? There has to be something I'm not understanding.
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Post by: Edible on January 20, 2015, 08:29:38 PM
okay real talk

I've been running Ronia a lot lately and like

she's really good but I don't see why she's seen as so supreme outside of that ridicuous RCV

Maybe I'm just too used to Athena but the damage is just so much lower in comparison

So my question is: How do you play Ronia? There has to be something I'm not understanding.

Can you list your ronia team and your athena team, with levels?
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Post by: Jq1790 on January 20, 2015, 08:35:36 PM
okay real talk

I've been running Ronia a lot lately and like

she's really good but I don't see why she's seen as so supreme outside of that ridicuous RCV

Maybe I'm just too used to Athena but the damage is just so much lower in comparison

So my question is: How do you play Ronia? There has to be something I'm not understanding.
I think the idea is to stack either fire or dark rows, like a LOT, and then go to town.  Doing that, her crazy active skill delivers TONS of damage, and she can deal a lot even on off floors just by having six orbs of your chosen focus.  Plus, devils have lots of options for subs etc. if I'm not mistaken, so there're a lot of situations RSonia can be put into.  That monstrous RCV is a part of it, especially if one does the RSonia/Lu Bu thing for the extra HP.

I think the difference between the two is Athena is not really meant to take many hits due to her nonexistent RCV stat and no RCV multiplier on her LS.  RSonia, meanwhile, has pretty good HP with the right subs(she herself has a pretty high score for someone with ~1850 Atk) and her RCV boost being so high means she can recover it all really quickly outside of No-RCV dungeons(In which case you'll either use another team or use the extra skyfalls to generate more ammo that much faster I believe?)

I mean, I don't have her premium subs at all, but that'd be my guess.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 20, 2015, 08:40:54 PM
The levels on my Ronia are lower, sure (it's a work in progress), but it shouldn't have THAT much of a big difference:

Ronia team:
Ronia - Max
DMeta - Max
Lu Bu - 50
Haku - 60
Vampire - 49

Vampire will probably be replaced with Persephone at some point; DMeta replaced with D/R Luci (though I'm on the fence on that, DMeta's extra skill boost and damage reduction, as well as raw stats are great)

Athena Team:
Athena - Max
Verche - 68
Apollo - 79
Izanagi - Max
Odin - Max

The damage should be at least somewhat comparable since they both run at 9x atk (Ronia at 6combo is at least), but it's not. I know TPAs make a huge difference but I just don't get how people wreck shit with Ronia when I consistently fail to do so.

I think the difference between the two is Athena is not really meant to take many hits due to her nonexistent RCV stat and no RCV multiplier on her LS.  RSonia, meanwhile, has pretty good HP with the right subs(she herself has a pretty high score for someone with ~1850 Atk) and her RCV boost being so high means she can recover it all really quickly outside of No-RCV dungeons(In which case you'll either use another team or use the extra skyfalls to generate more ammo that much faster I believe?)

It's the opposite for me. Athena teams have low RCV by default, yes, but my setup has monstrous HP (over 31k with a +297 Athena friend) and the low RCV is supplemented by Odin.

Meanwhile, my Ronia team just can't take a goddamn hit. It can recover from near-death easily, but that means nothing when multiple things kill you at once because the damage just isn't fucking enough to take them out.
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Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2015, 08:49:39 PM
The biggest source of damage is from her active, namely when you get a perfect active that lets you pull off 3 red or dark rows. The power you get from triple rows is just insane because not only do you get triple power from your awakenings, you also get "triple" power from that fact that you're matching three sets of red orbs.

Her RCV boost is one of the biggest in the game (more than Luci's like come on) giving her one of the best stalling potentials in the game. Combine that with all the skillboosts she has naturally and a 6 Ronia team is essentially a use actives to win team.

Also what makes her 'boring' is she pretty much ignores most factors of the game and simply turns it into a game of "can you find the three rows?" If you do you win. Her active completely removes the need to manage or store orbs for fights and her RCV boost removes the challenge of stalling. Basically you just need to memorize the chart of optimal Ronia layouts in case you can't make the full 3 rows.
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Post by: Thaws on January 20, 2015, 08:49:54 PM
I know next to nothing about ronia teams but here's my speculations.

Athena's main damage output is herself, and you have her level maxed, so the team has good output.
Your Ronia chooses to focus on dark rather than red, so your maxed Ronia is not benefitting from the abundance of dark rows. Secondly, your best member -- DMeta, is not a devil so she doesn't even get any atk boost from Ronia nor Lu Bu. Basically you're relying on underlevelled stuff to deal damage so damage probably sucks.
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Post by: Chaore on January 20, 2015, 08:58:06 PM
The levels on my Ronia are lower, sure (it's a work in progress), but it shouldn't have THAT much of a big difference:

Ronia team:
Ronia - Max
DMeta - Max
Lu Bu - 50
Haku - 60
Vampire - 49

Vampire will probably be replaced with Persephone at some point; DMeta replaced with D/R Luci (though I'm on the fence on that, DMeta's extra skill boost and damage reduction, as well as raw stats are great)

i mean

you're stacking dark rows and your highest level cards are either red or not an actual devil and receiving -absolutely no fucking boost by anything in this team besides raw rows-

in short only haku, lu bu, and vampire are doing actual weight lifting to their full capacity, and ronia is working very much at low capacity and dmeta is basically a giant deadweight offensively

vampire is also only around 1200 attack at that level, and haku and lu bu not being maxed cuts their damage a fair chunk as well

Athena Team:
Athena - Max
Verche - 68
Apollo - 79
Izanagi - Max
Odin - Max

comparitively all members on this team are god and receive full bonus, all are the same color, and most are supplemented fully by prongs
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Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2015, 09:00:31 PM
Yea you should really use that DR Luci :V

Oh yeah if you're going Dark Ronia then I guess it's a bit less facemashy. It kind of depends on the dungeon but basically Ronia does benefit from shorter dungeons like descends where she just melts each boss with an active until nothing is left while Athena is better for farming stuff like alt dungeons.

With Ronia you basically just stall when you can until you have your actives, then pop active and make double or triple dark rows to kill things. Triple dark row + orb enhance + Lu Bu active will OHKO pretty much any final boss so they're essentially trivialized so you just need to figure out how to ration your other actives to clear the other floors. It helps if you know the range of how much damage you can deal with each active.

And also if everyone is higher leveled :V
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Post by: Edible on January 20, 2015, 09:01:59 PM
Ah, found your problem.  Your Athena team's just much better than your Ronia team :V

Ronia's strength lies in having enough HP to stall against most things while also having insane RCV through her leader skill and the best single-active burst in the game through row damage.  If you run Ronia/DD Haku/Luci/Lu Bu/DMeta/Ronia, you'll have 9 dark rows to play with.  DMeta's not ideal but I agree that she's a cut above your other options at the moment (I'd use her over Persephone/Vamp despite not being a devil).

You'll have something like 18.7k HP when everyone's maxed out with no plus orbs with that team, which with judicious use of dmeta's shield means you can tank a lot of hits, especially considering it's trivial to get back to full health with the utterly absurd RCV you'll have.

That said, there's no reason not to keep both teams around.  Athena comp is going to wreck certain mythicals that Ronia can't sleep through, and vice versa.

Edit: Also, ronia active + lu bu active = nothing survives
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Post by: Chaore on January 20, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
(DMeta's not ideal but I agree that she's a cut above your other options at the moment (I'd use her over Persephone/Vamp despite not being a devil).

i mean tbh i could legitimately make a case for hamahime over dmeta in a ronia team

i'm just saying
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 20, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
Eh...

Ronia does not need orb changers on a short cooldown, it isn't really how she operates (it's one reason I'm not overly fond of persephone or vamp on ronia, despite the former having insanely good RCV and the latter having a super short cooldown)

Maybe in a couple situations where you really desperately need a bunch of dark orbs on turn 1 or you're almost guaranteed a loss, like izanami mythical, but those are very rare indeed in my experience

But even then, with the above example, dmeta's skill is up on turn 1 thanks to skill boosts so you can survive the double ogre combo regardless and then you can finish killing them in the next two turns
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: commandercool on January 20, 2015, 11:19:03 PM
Finally saw a Pii. He didn't drop, but I was happy just to see one. I've done ~70 alt dungeons give or take ten, and this was in Talos' Abyss. I'm up to four +eggs in that many runs as well, two of them in the last five runs. Wish I had been keeping better records, but when I alt dungeon out of the house it's a hassle to constantly open a note app and write things down.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 20, 2015, 11:20:46 PM
The only real reason DMeta is there because she adds some much-needed bulk to the team, damage notwithstanding. She's up super fast and has saved my ass multiple times by just making sure I don't get killed by a single hit (which is pretty much fucking EVERYTHING outside of boring weak dungeons). Once I get everyone else up to speed, I'll put Luci in instead.

And Hamahime over her? Really? Let's not get carried away, here. Just because she's devil doesn't mean she'll be even remotely ideal because she takes away valid damage from Ronia herself.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 20, 2015, 11:48:46 PM
Well there is an ideal 5cd orb changer sub for Ronia and that's Awoken Minerva :v

I don't think you heard me on IRC but have you considered pairing up with uevo Beelzebub (2xHP, 2.5ATK), it seems to be a huge thing lately, and high plus value teams are crushing Legend+ with this combination.
You have your own Lu Bu anyways so this sounds more optimal than pairing up with a Lu Bu.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 20, 2015, 11:54:07 PM
I'm considering that, yes. Probably would work out for the best, really.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 20, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
You could farm up a Hadar, too.  Dat HP.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Jq1790 on January 21, 2015, 12:13:40 AM
You could farm up a Hadar, too.  Dat HP.
Thanks for reminding me I need to do that eventually myself.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 21, 2015, 12:24:10 AM
My "Ronia" team is super dark heavy with Beelzebub, Byakko, Gryps Rider, Persephone and Christmas Lilith. However, it still basically comes down to Dark -rows- because hell I have 4 already and could have 3 more if I used regular Lilith and my second Byakko.

In fact, I would probably be better off using regular Lilith for her dark row anyway because double TPA on 1400 attack is still only 2.25x on 1400 attack when I could be boosting Beelzebub's massive 2300 ( with sub attribute)+ attack by another 20%.

You have Lu Bu already right? So there you go just wreck face with that instead of Lilith.

and guess who happens to be working on an eventually skill max +297 Beelzebub
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2015, 12:30:43 AM
hey chirei (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe0Cr_3WyiY)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 21, 2015, 01:33:42 AM
hey chirei (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe0Cr_3WyiY)

I've actually been planning a less-overkill variation of this with R/G's, but I don't nearly have as many eggs to make it work for a while.

though it's only natural paprika would play with the best leader in the game

EDIT: Speaking of the best leader in the game!

(http://i.imgur.com/peeadkr.png) (http://i.imgur.com/ZZIGOts.png) (http://i.imgur.com/eohB6tX.png)

Mephisto PROPERLY 0-stoned. This might even be farmable for Devil Fish.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2015, 02:37:22 AM
with those kinds of skyfalls though you might as well have just used anubis BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 21, 2015, 02:42:00 AM
with those kinds of skyfalls though you might as well have just used anubis BV

Ask people who go on the pad IRC. I've been practicing. I really need to pull him myself, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2015, 05:19:34 AM
And Hamahime over her? Really?

hamahime new meta

you heard it here folks

(no not really, that's kind of apparent from the post itself :T)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 21, 2015, 05:33:43 AM
Look man

I see hamahime in the strangest places
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2015, 05:45:18 AM
Look man

I see hamahime in the strangest places

yeah that's legit a thing and why i used her as the example (combined with how well she'd combo with ronia)

this is just a bad actual idea for a -number- of reasons most importantly being your main cards still would not lift properly at this point
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: hyorinryu on January 21, 2015, 06:27:11 AM
Whenever I try Mephist, I get a shitty board follwed by flash binds. Feels bad man.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 21, 2015, 09:03:19 AM
http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/150121_skill.html

MOAR buffs!

Weapon series:
Added Leader Skill -- Above 50% hp, ATK of the *insert element they convert to* x3.5

L/D Ra Leader Skill buff: When attacking with RGBLD, Atk x7

Defour: added awakenings and skill cooldown reduced by 2


Gungho pls, this is not the reason why no one cared about weapon series.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 21, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
added awakenings for deford  are a 2nd Light and Dark orb enhance and 1 skill boost

also those LS makes little sense
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 21, 2015, 09:11:42 AM
also those LS makes little sense

It is only appropriate for a series with such bewildering active skills to get an as equally confusing leader skill.
Whoever designed this series is a genius.
:V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: trancehime on January 21, 2015, 09:20:50 AM
It is only appropriate for a series with such bewildering active skills to get an as equally confusing leader skill.
Whoever designed this series is a genius.
:V

genius? more like 420 blaze it high on dewritoes...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Thaws on January 21, 2015, 09:47:14 AM
ok seriously,
it's kinda unbelievable they managed to make a series more useless than the golems that were taken out to make space for them (though golems are pretty useful but you just don't want more after your first one but they keep coming)

As for L/D Ra, Nice buff, but what he truly needs to make him relevant again is improvements in his awakenings. Right now it's LightShield, DarkShield, Sunglasses, HP+, you know a monster has bad awakenings when sunglasses is his best one :V Ideally, a finger and a skillboost would be very nice already.
Not to mention LKali's existence has boosted his potential by tenfolds.
There might actually be a reason not to go L/L Ra now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2015, 01:36:24 PM
That LS buff is...interesting.

The weapons are crying because what the fuck, that doesn't actually work :T That's not poorly conceived like their actives, that's just plain 'does not fucking work'.

Poor things are always just going to be huge stat sticks at this rate.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 21, 2015, 02:12:06 PM
Cleared Alt. Aither Desert before class today, and realized that that's actually the last one I hadn't beaten yet. (Does anyone know the >40%HP priorities on the boss genie? She seems tough if you don't oneshot her.)

I guess I've beaten all the alts this rotation. If only I could do that with the others.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 21, 2015, 02:37:29 PM
I tried to tell myself BeelzeBub wasn't going to deal much damage.

I was wrong. (http://imgur.com/iyi6GHV)

Beelzebub teams are not actually TPA teams, they're super beefy row teams.

Edit: So who has dibs on the next thread?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons 16 - YOLOSWAG xXx420xXwEeDxX carpe diem Edition
Post by: Edible on January 21, 2015, 02:48:47 PM
Me. BV